#mcyttwt Implied

[antimony-medusa]

Ok we have a philbur kiss. Now I want like. Tommy and Charlie to stumble out of a room together disheveled and simultaneously heavily deny and imply they were just fucking. I want to watch Twitter squirm even more

Can you IMAGINE what twitter would do. And also Tommy and Slime would 100% do this. I think you could roast marshmallows on the fires of mcyttwt if that happened.

#anon #ask #somehow even worse mode: ranboo and tommy do this #tommy has a whole bit about how the previous half hour was the best moment of his life #ranboo thinks it was mid #wilbur runs past the screen in a hot dog costume chased by zombies

[pixelgreen]

someone on twitter getting spammed with quote tweets and being called a weirdo or boundary breaker or "of course they're a dream stan" and i go to the original tweet and. all they did was imply they want to kiss wilbur. i'm laughing i do not miss mcyttwt

#i used to be on twt for hours and hours a day and now i only go on there to check updates for a few mins at most #it was genuinely so good for me and my brain to break out of there. i won't even get into it but.. what an awful website

[tenntennz]

honestly idc what content creators someone watches for content, idc who you hyperfixate on and go to for comfort or stability if the shit the creator is doing has no intensive real world consequence. i’m not gonna ask you to stop watching someone because i personally don’t forgive them for something they said

mr beast? donated 26K to eugenics, that is a nonrefundable real world consequence. he used his power and notoriety to directly hurt autistic children, i personally avoid mr beast’s audience for this reason

a content creator making a mildly insensitive annoying joke years ago? a content creator being unintentionally hurtful while making an active effort to not hurt people? a content creator that’s making an effort to change past behavior? that is something you can improve. either you forgive them or you don’t, that’s your choice. all you can do is move on from there

someone posting about a content creator on their tumblr blog isn’t hurting anyone. block them, make posts saying you don’t forgive the creator on your own blog and move on

going after people and bullying people because you personally don’t forgive a content creator however DOES directly hurt people, it DOES create a chain reaction of hate.

being unsympathetic and mean to people trying to cope because you don’t forgive a content creator will make me avoid you. some kid watching philza will not make me dislike them. these content creators are just. people. making content and trying to make people’s days better

they’re not evil because you heard from your mutual in law’s cousin’s friend twice removed that a certain creator said THIS like, 3 years ago and that’s the only thing you know about the creator. you need to start viewing people as people

#this isn’t about a specific situation it’s just. in general #i’m using phil as an example btw nothings happening with him Now #i’ve wanted to say this for a while #negativity #mcyttwt Implied #twitter implied in general #eugenics #mr beast negative #mr beast critical #mrbeast negative #mrbeast critical #also even though i dislike mr beast i’m not going after his audience 😭 he’s the issue #his audience didn’t make the donation! i avoid his fans but. priorities man #ten time #I’M RANTING HERE maybe this doesn’t make sense idk #i also have an issue with people who cape for ccs and fuckin. doxx people for them BUT WHATEVER! ANOTHER TIME #fandom critical

[sootcharlie]

inniters get behind me

#mcyt #discourse #mcyt discourse #mcyttwt #mcyttwt discourse #tommyinnit #tommy neg #tommy neg implied #i hope thats all the tags #ask to tag #bc i dont wanna clog up anyones dash who doesnt care abt this shitty dramam but boy am i pissed

[dyketubbo]

i. the aeduo post is only 500 notes and was originally only 2 paragraphs. my damn beeduo posts have twice as many notes but i make one post criticizing how the fandom treats kristin n aeduo and it sparks actual discourse, i get people insulting me, calling me arophobic and anti-polyam, telling me i dont have friends (which btw if youre telling an aro kid they dont know what friendship is while theyre talking abt qprs uh. i dont think im the one whose wording you should be concerned abt), and even possibly talking shit about me behind my back to get me banned from shit and blocked. im building up i swear to god this is why i literally never fuck w tech n phil fans that part of the fandom is insane fr

#now that im done having a delusional breakdown i just. looked at the og post and realized how fucking ridiculous it is that #this shit happened to me in the span of less than two whole days. because i said to respect kristin and phils relationship #and to not try and bend phil n technos boundaries for sumn we dont actually know they would approve of #like. thats insane. thats fucking insane #and i just know im still going to cry about it later #mcytblr rlly is nearly as shitty as mcyttwt yall just talk more #mask mews #negative #implied suicide #bc of the building up joke 😔 i am not seriously feeling suicidal over this though dw #if people keep fuckin w my paranoia n delusions tho i might bc goddamn #sorry to all normal aeduo fans im sure yall are nice but im scared of the bitches who givin yall a bad name doin this shit #i cant believe i was literally just venting abt it last night just for more shit to pop up. fucking kill me dude

[cat-sapphics]

I HONEST TO GOD THOUGHT HARLO'S TWEET WAS SARCASTIC BUT IT WAS DEAD SERIOUS, THEY'RE SO FUCKING ENTITLED OVER THERE OH MY GODDDDDDDDD

#i don't like schlatt much either tbh #i don't think he's a good person #but i'm gonna give the schlatt stans credit where it's due #sorry y'all but they have my support this one time #because HOLY FUCK the entitlement 😭 #jschlatt #tw mcyttwt #tone indicators #hey maybe stop implying all nd ppl are dumb enough to not understand such a simple tweet as well?? #i could tag this with ableism honestly #but not on op's part ironically #anyway #enough ranting #pridecat hates mcyttwt

[hualian-blessing]

why mcyttwt does not think some (if not most) of the time when it comes to mcc

if i post this in twitter, i’d surely get hated upon but someones gotta have to say this one day. also this does not target to mcytblr!!! this rant is more of towards mcyttwt!!!

remember how mcyt was so chill before all of this shit? how we would watch our favorite minecraters when the community was so small? or how mcc was an event that both ccs and fans can have some fun and entertainment once per month? and that was only last year too. now look at the new generation of mcyt fans and see why some of the old fans dont really associate the new ones.

as a fan of the old gen mcytbers like DanTDM, SkyDoesMinecraft, Aphmau and CaptainSparklez. heck im a fan of pewds’ minecraft series before dream or tommy or ranboo or the new gen of mcyt ccs blew up (a year before them if im correct), and we dont see drama or bad shit all the time when it comes to their content.

now compare that to the new gen where every single fucking day, a bored fan or anti would post shit drama in twitter where some of the people from twitter moved to tumblr just to not get a headache from the batshit craziness mcyttwt brought forth. and it just snapped more when the mccp21 rolled in.

heres some of my takes about the mccp21 issue:

1) “there’s a lack of representation of lgbtq+ in the teams!!!”

heres something to tell yall about that. scott doesnt have a fucking choice. scott smajor has told time and time again, WEEKS before the announcement of teams, that there are certain requirements and limitations to mccp21 thus there will be difficulty in choosing whos entering or whos not. limitations and requirements such as it will be streamed on youtube or how streamers with twitch contracts aren’t allowed to stream or (god bless scott’s good heart) scott not allowing some of the lgbtq+ streamers in joining the special event due to wanting them to have a chance to stream and experience their first mcc (so to those who said that ranboo should have been in mccp21, shut up ‘cuz scott wanted genderman to have fun streaming his first mcc but cant due to ranboo being a well-known twitch streamer). to those who complained that ant and velvet should be in the mcc, stop being selfish and do some actual research on why scott didn’t include them. a simple question to those two’s fans would answer that they can’t make it due to them camping for a week which within those days is the mccp21. they’re having time to themselves, not wasting it on a minecraft championship. 

take in the consideration that, oh i dont know, not a lot of lgbtq+ ccs applied to the event? its not a free invite championship (in fact, mcc has always been like that), it’s an applied with the sufficient and correct requirements kind of event. the artist who created the icons from the previous mcc for the teams said that scott let in some of the new ccs in last minutes due to lack of applicants not meeting the requirements thus not having custom artworks for the teams if they want to announce the teams in time.

2.) “there’s no lesbians or trans in the teams >:(((”

sadly enough, there’s not much of the players from the lgbtq+ community but to say there’s no trans people in mccp21 is utterly false. by definition, trans mean  denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex. other genders such as non-binary, genderfluid, androgyne, bigender, gender expansive all fall under trans. you define yourself with the gender you personally chose and comfy with from you birth gender. so saying there’s no trans in the teams when there are players from the event like eret or sqaishey who are nb and genderfluid respectively are there to also represent not only the sexuality but also the gender identity of others??? like c’mon, please make sense mcyttwt. 

also, while its sad to not see lesbians, please know that lgbtq+ doesn’t strictly be defined by lesbians. ffs, lgbtq+ literally means Lesbians Gays Bisexuals Transgenders and Questioning (or Queer but im not too sure about that one) which means that there are still other representatives for the community in the event.

3) “technoblade is in the event?!!! WHAT THE FUCK, HES A HOMOPHOBE/LESBIPHOBE-”

utter clowns, toxic twitter users are. do you really think that scott smajor, an openly gay man, would let a supposed “homophobe/lesbiphobe” in an event that focuses in supporting the lgbtq+ community? do you hear yourself? do you even do research where the joke he made was when he was the same age as me and it was based on a historical article back in WW2? or how he passionately supports the community especially the lesbians because a lesbian couple complimented him to which kickstart his confidence? the man willingly went to this mcc event despite being flamed a lot in twitter because he (and everyone) knows that his chat, his fans and supporters, are literal millionaires. if you saw a stream from foolish where he auctioned canonical characters for funs, a techno fan donated thousand of dollars to get technoblade, and that’s only one fan, now imagine a hundreds of thousands of them.

like it or not, technoblade has always been open about his support to the community, especially that majority of his fanbase are from the same community that mcyttwt allegedly swore that technoblade hates.

4) “since this mccp21 is pointless because theres no dteam, quackity, punz or (insert cc name), let’s have a watch party of the previous mccs to spite mccp21!!!” “let’s hope (insert cc name) stream on the 26th so mccp21 doesnt have the same amount of viewership like before!!!” “where are (insert cc name)??? gosh, this mcc is so boring without them!!!”

shut up shut up shut up shut up shut the actual fuck up. are you really seriously hearing yourself? are you willing and proudly boycotting a once in a year special event that is seriously needed by the lgbtq+ community? are you that cruel and selfish to sacrifice a project that helped tons of people just for your sick entertainment and desires? are you that evil to stop others from enjoying and donating to the trevor project? are you that inconsiderate of other ccs that aren’t part of dsmp and calling them boring? and for what? because your favorite cishet streamer isn’t there? oh booofuckinghoo! you’re so fucking petty to even post about this kind of tweets in public.

(edit: did yall honestly thought that without your favorite streamers that the mcc is not worth watching because they aren't there? well let me tell you, im a ranboo fan. ive watched him when he first entered the dsmp and watched him spinning in his unicorn chair for 5 minutes. the boo community waited for so many months for genderman to join mcc yet we didn't even do that kind of disgusting action and behavior every time he isn't in mcc. 8 months. that's how long ive watched him. ive waited 8 months for him to be in the event yet i still watch other povs like tommy's, puffy's, wilbur's, and etc., because it's fun and entertaining to watch them despite the beloved not participating in the games.

if you're that spoiled to not even watch mcc because (insert cc whose not part of mccp21 name here) isn't part of the roster then you most likely have a one dimensional humor because there will always be someone more funny and entertaining than them. i like dsmp don't get me wrong, but i found parrot's school smp funnier than dsmp yet you don't see me insulting both series, do you? learn to keep yourself if you're calling ccs as boring or dull or not entertaining enough due to not having the same big platform as the dsmp members.)

you don’t deserve to call yourself a fan if you’re doing this kinds of actions. in fact, people like you should be kicked out from the mcyt community because your kind of people are the reason why we look so bad from the outside. your toxic and self-entitled to these content creators are the reason why famous ccs like sbi, purpled, tubbo and almost ranboo left twitter/implied strict rules to their subtwts. you drove out an entire friend group that tons of fans found comfort in from the platform and you still have the audacity to this kind of shit? honestly, just leave before you give me a headache.

what im sayin’ is that mcyttwt is one of the worst, if not THE worst, subtwts out of the other subtwts in twitter. having no actual research or evidences or spreading false information is common in twitter where you would have to take what they said with a micro size grain of salt. mcyttwt already ruined the fun and spirit of mcc during its comeback in mcc14 due to the glitch and beta testing shit (ey i still stand for the ranboo beta testing but i know that will be worthless since theres hints of him joining soon in mcc15). if you’re still in mcyttwt, i suggest to get out of there while you still can. we’ll never know if there’s a bigger shitstorm than this in the mcyttwt that may happen in the future.

edit! hi bella again, ive been told by a polite and cool user that not all people from mcyttwt are toxic and/or cruel. im going to clear something up here. ive written this during the heat of the announcement of mccp21 teams. so there's a lot of complains and/or entitled people in the app (you can even see it in my previous post too if you want evidences!) that gave off mostly negative vibes towards the event.

ive seen the cool ones who actually took the consideration for scott's side and the criticism of the lack of representation of other communities within the lgbtq+ umbrella (ive even share some parts of it above so im also a bit upset to the lack of numbers in the community). and some of them are correct about recruiting lgbtq+ creators in youtube but! like i said, it's an applied event and not invitational one, so its up to that content creator if they want to join or not. the amount of cishet in the roster are just those who want to support the cause and/or backups/stand-ins in case scott and noxcrew can't find enough ccs in time!

just wanna clear this up because mcyttwt these days are covered by really cringe fans (ive noticed a pattern of them mostly new ones but there are still awesome new fans (like my irl friend who just joined this year) within the community) that covered the good ones where they enjoy, have fun and share some neat ideas and thoughts to the community within the platform!

when i said to get out of the mcyttwt while you still can, i meant to get out of there to avoid drama (that is really small contrast those who really need to address the issue) and take a break from it. it's still your choice if you want to be surround by it or not or if you want to come back to the app. all im saying is to buckle up for the shitstorm cuz this is not the last time that the twitter side of mcyt will cause negativity to the community.

#mccp21 #technoblade #twitter #twitter discourse #mcc discourse #mcyttwt #minecraft championships #fuck off tw #twitter sucks jfc #noxcrew

[roxytonic]

@nachosforfree

thank you for the speedy clarification/reassertion of priorities. i've moved this post off-thread to try and protect the original post's topic.

i apologize if my attempt to provide additional context seemed to be flippant or even disregarding--again, i'm a Birdwatch tester. my priorities on social media are more about information and clarity right now. though of course with this latest incident, i'll have to rebalance some things on roxytonic central.

i still don't agree that the truthing is as toxic as you're implying it to be. between truthing and mcyttwt vigilantism, i'll take the former. certainly mcyttwt vigilanism is going to incur psychological duress much more frequently than assuming a CC is secretly queer in an obscure corner of a site presumed to be dead since 2018.

but i do agree that it's a bizarre choice to include the claims in the post at all.

to describe ranboo in that way has little (axiomatic) truth, little relevance, and just barely-mezzo measures of essentiality. the post would certainly benefit without it. perhaps it would even be reblogged with vigor.

have a good night.

#nachosforfree #gin and roxytonic #ranboo #truthing #cerulean

[svbatomic]

as someone who has been on stan twt on and off since 2017, mcyttwt is by far the worst and most genuinely mentally damaging stan twt community i’ve ever been in. like to the point that after four years of being a stan twitter user mcyttwt was the only fandom that made me so stressed all the goddamn time that i had to leave the whole app for good. and like a big reason for that (and also a big part of the reason that i think the culture there is the way it is on there) is that mcyttwt actively rewards you for being terminally online (i am about to complain now btw so uh . mcyttwt refugee rant incoming below the cut)

the only reason i was on mcyttwt for so long (until late february/early march i think) is bc i couldn’t talk to my friends about mcyt irl as i would honestly get unironically bullied if i told anyone i’m a Cringe Social Reject Dream Stan Tm (not trying to imply dsmp stans r like. oppressed or some shit i just am well aware of the fact that everyone fucking hates us lol) and so i was like cool i can have a community of ppl who share my interests online and still have friends irl and it’ll be great

but bc of the weird ass performative culture around cancelling and shit on twitter it got to the point where i couldn’t do that anymore bc mcyttwt lowkey punishes you for having a life outside of it. like i would be inactive for a weekend bc i was hanging out w my irl best friend and come online to see i’d lost sixty mutuals and been @.ed in like three pissed off callout threads bc a cc or fan that i followed made one kinda dodgy joke and i didn’t unfollow them immediately bc i had a fucking life outside twitter and that meant i was problematic by way of inaction. and pretty quickly it went from shit like this happening once every couple weeks to every single fucking day.

and like the standards for what necessitated cancellation were so fucked. i had one mutual who had like a hundred followers who said she thought schlatt was funny on other people’s streams and got told to kill herself in the replies. at the same time i had an ex-mutual who would regularly post shit that doxxed schlatt and everyone was more or less okay with it. and unless you were online 24 fucking 7 it was impossible to keep up with all the different people you were supposed to be soft-blocking and hard-blocking and educating-not-cancelling, and you will absolutely get in trouble for inevitably falling behind

idk tldr that app is fucking insane to the point that i get actual anxiety from opening it and the only reason i was even on there for as long as i was is bc i felt like if i wasn’t on twt i wouldn’t have any outlet to discuss my interest in mcyt which is why i’m so glad that i said fuck it and redownloaded tumblr from back when i was a marvel blog bc like. towards the end it didn’t even feel like i was running a stan account it felt like i was a one man pr team with a minecraft profile pic

#this is a fuckin vent jesus christ #you can rb if you want tho #mcyttwt refugees #mcyttwt neg #discourse cw #mcyttwt crit #mcyttwt /neg #mcyttwt negative #mcyttwt discourse #cw death threat #mcyttwt critical #fandom discourse #fandom critical #kip rants #fandom neg #fandom negative #fandom crit

[my-fall-from-grace]

i thought i was gonna shut up about mcyttwt, but i just gotta put it out there real quick:

i saw some terrible takes implying tommy was selfish for the mental health break he's taking from twitter, and that he didn't deserve to do so bc the stuff he said caused mental health issues for some of his own viewers (which is rather parasocial imo but moving on). they basically said he should put his viewer's mental health above his own, which is the worst thing i've ever heard.

always, always put yourselves first. i know it sounds terribly selfish but you cannot help anyone if you don't help yourself first. your mental health comes before everything (except your own health and safety ofc) and it is important to understand that.

i firmly believe tommy is right for putting his mental health above this and i don't want anyone saying otherwise. he is 17 and he deserves to learn at his own pace, not at a pace twitter decides to enforce.

#tommyinnit #mcyttwt #it gets worse each time i look tbh #lb #discourse

[comradedream]

YUPPPP!!!! all of the boobers are acting high and mighty in the qrts, saying they hate white men except but ranboo AS IF RANBOO HASNT IMPLIED THAT HE HATES HIS FANS RECENTLY MULTIPLE TIMES. NO ONE LIKES MCYTTWT BECAUSE NONE OF YALL CAN TAKE A DAMN JOKE, DREAM IS RIGHT! I need to boobers fucking gone, stop acting like you and ur spineless cc (sorry ranboo) are beacons of wokeness

i can’t take anyone named boobers seriously im sorry but agreedddddd and ignoring that last part i hope one day he says fuck u all n logs off tbh praying for that boy sometimes lowkey

#asks #ranboo neg #negative #discourse #yall i prefer not to post cc neg just fyi u can send it if ur heart desires but 9/10 i don’t post it #😭😭😭

[novaliae]

hey mcytblr (and by mcytblr i mean my two followers who like mcyt), let’s talk about aphobia

recently aphobia has been rearing its ugly head on mcyttwt and elsewhere in the fandom. it started with this clip of phil responding to a dono about whether he’s okay with fans headcanoning c!phil and c!techno as a qpr (queerplatonic relationship). transcript of the clip:

dono: are you okay with people portraying you and techno’s characters as qprs? qprs are platonic life partners. it’s an argument in the fandom.

phil, over the last sentence of the dono: i don’t give a shit. i—i just don’t give a shit.  it’s headcanons; it’s not real.

(it’s my first time doing transcripts of things so i hope i did it right)

unfortunately, this led to problematic shippers claiming their romantic headcanons or fancontent was actually a qpr. the most blatant include a tweet from a t*chza artist depicting phil and techno kissing with the caption “besties” and replies full of people mocking qprs (ie qrting the art and adding “i love queerplatonic relationships”). the implications, of course, are that people who hc c!phil and c!techno or any other duo in a qpr are just closet problematic shippers, and that qprs don’t exist by extension. and naturally, twitter being twitter, this has spiraled into a whole lot of “aphobia doesn’t exist” and “aces/aros aren’t oppressed” and a bunch of other all-around nastiness/anti-ace sentiment.

let’s unpack this.

first of all, what is aphobia, and what are qprs? if you haven’t heard of it before, aphobia is the discrimination against or invalidation of people on the aromantic or asexual spectrums. people on these spectrums do not experience romantic/physical attraction or may only do so only in certain circumstances. this means that aspec people often do not end up in a “traditional” romantic partnership, especially if they identify as aroace (both aromantic and asexual; aroaces experience little to no sexual and romantic attraction). aspec people will sometimes instead be in a queerplatonic relationship. a queerplatonic partner, or qpp, is most often described as a platonic soulmate/platonic life partner, and is someone with whom you form an intense emotional bond (something beyond traditional friendship) that is inherently nonsexual and nonromantic. the most common dsmp fandom interpretations of queerplatonic relationships are c!beeduo, who are platonically married in canon, and c!emeraldduo, who are the subject of the dono phil received.

ace and aro people are constantly invalidated and forced to justify their ace/aro-ness. we hear all the time that being aspec isn’t really a thing or that we’re confused and don’t know what we actually feel. by implicitly stating that qprs are not legitimate or that they’re romantic relationships in disguise, aphobes a) imply that ace or aro people with queerplatonic partners are actually in a romantic relationship but won’t label it like that because of stubbornness/stupidity/lack of understanding, and b) push the notion that deep and lasting connections cannot exist beyond romantic/sexual partnerships. which. is absolute bullshit and blatant aphobia.

cuddling, holding hands, and kissing on the cheek/forehead (behaviors often part of queerplatonic relationships) are not inherently sexual/romantic. let me say this again for the aphobes in the back. cuddling, holding hands, and kissing on the cheek/forehead are not inherently sexual/romantic behaviors. they are things that sexual/romantic couples may do, but they can also be integral parts of relationships that aren’t based around that sort of thing, like friends and families and yes, queerplatonic partnerships. when fans create art of qpps holding hands or fics where they cuddle and bump foreheads, they are not meant to be interpreted as shipping. i know i’ve said these words so much they’ve stop sounding like actual things, but implying otherwise is amatonormative and is aphobic.

by writing off all queerplatonic partnerships as shipping, or hell, even close platonic ones that aren’t explicitly labeled as queerplatonic, you are erasing a massive facet of the ace community while continuing to conform to an incredibly rigid and liner mindset about what attraction is/isn’t. nothing is more invalidating to an ace or aro person than claiming something they do is sexual/romantic when it clearly isn’t meant to be interpreted that way. we have made it clear that what we feel (or don’t feel), and you are blatantly ignoring that. you are repeating the same old tired stereotype that aspec people do not really exist and we’re only confused or too afraid to confront our “actual sexualities.” stop sexualizing queerplatonic relationships or turning them into something they’re not. qprs are not the next “just gals being pals,” they’re just aspec people trying to exist and sick of having to constantly justify their existence.

i could do a whole other post about exclusionist arguments i saw in some of the tweet’s replies like “aspec people aren’t really oppressed” and “aphobia doesn’t exist,” and maybe i will later on, but this is primarily about the general mockery made of qprs on twitter.

stop belittling ace people. stop mocking qprs. i am sick and tired of the aphobia/amatonormativity in this fandom. let’s be better than this.

please reblog and raise awareness!

#i am so fucking sick of seeing the aphobia here #wading through twitter replies to research for this was absolutely disgusting #feel free to send asks with questions #philza #technoblade #i miss technoblade #emeraldduo #queerplatonic #ace gang #aro gang #asexual #aromantic #aphobia #tagging a lot to try to get stuff noticed #dsmp culture #dsmp #mcytblr #mcyt #please reblog #okay seriously i have stuck so many tags on this bitch oops #my thoughts are y'all's problem now

[mariaiscrafting]

You know, what think I like when you are critical of a content creator is that you know how to separate a fact from especulation, unlike a blog out there that took especulation as facts.

Example, that night when we were critical of Karl, or any instance you have discussed about him, a lot of anons were saying that he gave them clout chaser vibes to them, and despite your opinion, you expressed that those were only especulation and not the truth, and to keep that in mind. That's good critical thinking.

But this blog had some similar anons, saying that he only is friends with the Feral Boys gro clout- In fact, they said the Feral Boys were only in it to benefit from clout and money. And they took it as a truth. I know you instance on them is neutral, but come one, they are friends. All of them. Karl isn't friends with them for clout. Like today Karl was playing golf with salad gang plus Sapnap and George at first and then Quackity and Dream joined bc they had spared time and it all devolved into typical chaos (Poor Corpse and Tina and Brook, had to endure those children lol/lh /j). Like, the stream wasn't planned with the 5/5 yet they joined, missing Karl and just having fun.

Idk, I guess that blog's superiority (They were a SBI focused blog) just irritated me. It's as if they were putting both groups at each other as if those streamers aren't friends or close. They were singing prayers of one while shunning the other based from especulation. Criticissism is fine, in fact recommended to be critical of your interests, but taking rumors as facts to base your crit is yikes. It's as if I wanted to crit SBI and base it only of "Philza hanging only with people younger than him is kinda weird ngl.." or "Sbi doesn't care about Tommy cuz he joined late" like that dumb Tumblr post did or some fuckers in Twitter imply.

The main reason I take so much care to separate speculation from evidence-backed theories and confirmed truths is because I feel like that separation is what distinguishes us from mcyttwt the most. One of the main reasons for mcyttwt's toxicity, imo - for its relentless cancelling of everyone, for its bandwagon campaigns - is that people oftentimes criticize and defend based on their personal feelings rather than rationale or evidence.

For example, I complain a lot about Dream stans on here, but you know the reason I didn't stop watching Dream directly after the cheating scandal broke loose, even though I thought he cheated? Because of mcytblr Dream stans. Mcytblr Dream stans engaged with me in discussion, both publicly and in DMs, about the cheating scandal, and even those who eventually came to the conclusion that Dream didn't cheat accepted the facts and statistics they were given and kept a healthy skepticism throughout the process. On Twitter, Dream stans were defending him before he even made a video following up to the mods' initial accusations because they felt that Dream wasn't the kind of guy to lie or cheat. They were replying to screenshots of statistical analyses from subreddits and to articles from mathematicians and staticians with extremely reactionary responses because of that feeling, which they believed in so adamantly, they had accepted it as fact. The thing is, to believe that Dream didn't cheat in the face of all the statistical and rhetorical evidence to the contrary is, in itself, speculative. Usually we think of speculation as a baseless theory that something is a positive truth- that is to say, that something did happen. But speculation also applies to those theories of someone not having done something, when the opposite has been nearly proven to be true.

For this same reason, I chose not to ignore the anti-technotwt threads with screenshots of Techno's old tweets in them. For me to have simply ignored these screenshots and continued supposing that Techno never expressed bigoted beliefs and/or currently doesn't would have been speculative on my part, and to boot, blatantly wrong, given the evidence to the contrary.

People in this fandom, and in all RPF/RPF-adjacent fandoms need to understand that almost everything they believe about the CCs they watch is speculative, at least to some extent, because of the nature of the content they make. Even if someone, in your opinion, displays evidence of some aspect of their personality - whether that be some form of bigoted, sweet, rude, clout-chasing, or anything else - because of the extremely one-sided nature of sharing one's life through a screen, that theory of ours will almost alwyas only ever be speculation, not a solid conclusion that can be drawn. We will never know these people's true intentions behind something shared to us via the Internet.

That vagueness leads to virtually every viewer creating a different theory in our heads about the CCs we watch, and we can't treat those theories as facts, especially not when sharing them with the rest of a fandom. I'm not a very big blog, but I consider even over 50 followers to be way too many people to spread a theory too, without at least clarifying that what I'm posting is speculation. If I have evidence, I like to list it or, if I can, provide sources; but otherwise, I take care to qualify most things with phrases or disclaimers that will clue followers into the speculative nature of whatever it is I'm saying. This is because theories and "feelings" can blaze through a fandom like wildfire, especially somewhere like Twitter, where so many things are word-of-mouth or based on summary due to character limitation.

You know why mcyttwt was cancelling Andi? Only a handful of original Tweeters under the cancel Andi hashtags actually knew what clips or tweets to criticize her for, or tried to elaborate on that criticism. But because every other mcyttwt user was getting bombarded by their mutuals hate-posting about Andi on their TLs, the "negative feeling" towards Andi grew and grew, even if most people didn't even know what they were supposed to feel negative about, exactly. Our judgement works on a quick trigger on the Internet because of the amount of information we're receiving, and so, even a single bad word against someone you don't have too strong of an opinion on can fundamentally alter your perception of them, usually subconsciously. If the first thing you see about Andi, who you've only seen on a couple LOH's or a couple Punz streams before then, is a tweet along the lines of, "disappointed in Andi for her homophobia and joking about suicide," despite you having no context, you will most likely be pushed to the negative side of her. Thus begins the cycle of hatred, building up and up, leading to you searching for more and more criticism about Andi, whether speculative or not, until you solidly and genuinely believe she is a Horrible Person. It all starts with the vaguest fucking feeling, because that's all speculation has to go off of, and it snowballs into a fucking wildfire across an entire fandom. I'm not about to be another person to let feelings snowball and spread like that.

Now, I don't know what exact blog you're referring to, but as an adamant SBI enthusiast, let me flip the argument many SBI stans have for their speculation upon the genuity of Karl's friendship with the Feral Bois, onto SBI. What do we have to go off of for the genuity of SBI's friendship, anyways? Our perceived brother dynamic between Tommy and Wilbur could very well just be Tommy capitalizing on Wilbur's brand and continuing the charade until now because it's been profitable. Maybe Techno only continues to associate with SBI because he knows how much his fanbase likes headcanon'ing about SBI, so he puts up with streams with them so he can continue to feed his fanbase with dynamics he knows they're obsessed with. Maybe Phil would rather play MC with people his age, and actually dislikes that he's friends with a teenager, but sticks around because he profitted so much off of Dream SMP and SBI-related content. And what could any SBI stan have to argue with me on any of these theories? Just because SBI laughs around each other and seems fond of each other doesn't mean they're actually like that behind the cameras. They so seldomly stream or make videos together anymore, anyways, so maybe they've grown tired of keeping up the dynamic.

Everything I said could be interpreted as utter bullshit, and that's because it fucking is. I don't actually know what Techno wants to do with his life, or how Wilbur and Tommy actually feel about each other, or who Phil wants to fucking befriend. The same goes for Feral Boys. There's nothing wrong with stating your theories or speculation, but to treat them as fact or not at least qualify such posts with the fact that this is all based on your bias and opinion, and no substantive evidence, is irresponsible. Just because you feel like one or more of the Feral Boys is "clout-chasing" doesn't mean you have the right to tout that feeling as truth. I feel a lot of things about a lot of CCs, both negative and positive, but no matter how strong my feelings, unless they have substantive evidence backing them up, I have no right to treat them as facts with my followers.

#anyways this kinda went everywhere but oh well #discourse #fandom critical #karl jacobs #feral boys #mcyt #asks #uhhh yeah this isnt neg to any cc just to the way fandom will treat them

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You can answer this privately if you want to but i just wanna know what is rbgc?

it was a gc on twitter of black ranboo fans, they talked a lot abt black issues and held spaces/talked abt antiblackness in mcyttwt

people are celebrating the rbgc's death bc prominent members had a track record of death threats, spreading doxxbins, queerphobia (mainly acephobia and homophobia directed at mlm), misogyny, racism towards nonblack people of colour and faking rumours/implying that phil was a pedophile amongst other things. blackmcyttwt users were, from what i've seen, very divided on them - some vehemently supporting them, others did not like that they were seen as the primary voice for black people in the fandom and found that they took up space for differing viewpoints to speak up - there were members who often called black twitter users the c slur amongst other derogatory terms if ever they disagreed.

i could go more in depth about how some members believed that black people couldn't be racist, how they often weaponised their blackness to deflect from very valid criticism and how they bullied and dogpiled people who criticised them, got into a lot of drama/spread hateful and bigoted rhetoric under ranboo's name (which goes against his boundaries), but this about covers it.

#esclapoaskbox #tw discourse #discourse #mcyttwt #tw mcyttwt