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#maybe coming out the womb dead was forshadowing or like
lilgynt · 3 years
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like i know it’s in the moment and it’ll pass but just feel like i’m never getting out of this house i’ll never leave and die feeling as a bad as i do for a long long time
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medschoolash · 7 years
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My honest thoughts on the episode: confusion
I'll start with the entire premise of the wight hunt. It's such a stupid ass plan that I couldn't even pay attention to most of it. All I could say was "y'all are so damn dumb this is insane". Like honestly what was the point of this plan besides killing Viscerion? Was there really no other way to accomplish that goal? Not to mention the entire handling of the hunt was laughably contrived. Jon and his crewe gets stranded in the middle of an ice late and the entire WW army just stands there and watches then for A ENTIRE NIGHT because they are waiting for the lake to freeze over again.....even tho they are dead and can literally just pop back out of the water? Like??? It was all so obviously just an excuse to keep Jon and co alive along enough for Dany to come save them all. Then Jon, like a pure dumbass, decides to not accept Dany's aide and chooses to keep attacking walkers for no reason at all besides they needed an excuse to prolong how long the dragons stayed so one could die....I mean Jon was literally just out there fighting for the hell of it while everyone else just sat there on the drogon school bus waiting to go. Then Viscerion dies and Dany is oddly stoic as he flops out of the sky....but Jon gets so irate about it he just has to keep fighting instead of getting the hell outta dodge so Dany painfully has to leave him behind 😂. Then all of a sudden Uncle Benjen makes a grand appearance to save Jon only to die 30 seconds later. 💀 Let's not even talk about the awkward convos that took place on the way.... Jon and Jorah discuss Longclaw as if Jon doesn't know the reason why Joer didn't want Jorah to have the sword...honestly what was the point besides the "give it to your children" line which I guess serves as some forshadow of some sorts? Jon knows that sword can kill a damn wight and he knows he has a huge battle coming up and people to return to yet he wants the most powerful weapon besides the dragons in someone else's hands? *sigh* This brings me to Dany/Tyrion: It's season 7, SEVEN. How much longer does Dany have to have her hand held while proclaiming to be the best queen ever. She simultaneously degrades Tyrion plans then asks him for a plan because she literally can't some up with a single effective strategy besides ride a dragon and break the wheel. It's the end of the season and she still has to hear a talk about how not to be a psycho dictator, which she still seems not to want to hear. She once again slips into paranoia with Tyrion over his family like she only suddenly learned Tyrion was a Lannister once they reached dragonstone. Tyrion's line about Jon being in love with her was oddly random and also blatantly false based on all the on screen footage. Honestly I feel like my intelligence is being blatantly insulted when Tyrion says he sees the say he looks at her longingly because there is ZERO evidence to back that up. I must be watching a different show and missed all the long gazes of love Jon shot Dany's way to show Tyrion his great love for her. The ONLY way this makes sense is if this is all a part of Tyrion's plan to influence Dany to turn away from her darker impulses. Tyrion is clever enough to use Dany's clear affection for Jon as a way to temper her crazy just like Varys told him. He can tell his grip is slipping but maybe if she believed that honorable Jon snow loves her, regardless of how true that is, she might calm down and that "love" might make her second guess her choices. Honestly I'm skeptical about DD after this episode but I'm not ruling this out just yet since again, it's the only thing that makes sense and doesn't make that line a blatant insult to my intelligence. The succession talk also comes on randomly. Why was that the time to suddenly talk about it? What did Tyrion expect Dany to say? She has no successor. Did he want her to say that she'll try to find a man and awaken her dead womb? Did he want her to say that she's gonna name him her successor? Like honestly what answer could Tyrion have been looking for when Dany has no kids, no family, and only a close set of advisors? If she named someone her successor at that moment how would it even matter when the Lords of westeros still have zero reason to back Dany or her successor? Back at Winterfel Arya is acting out this gross ass storyline designed by DD to bring angst to the stark sisters. Honestly Sansa is better than me. It was sickening to see Arya inspire such fear in Sansa after all the torment and pain Sansa has been through. She's had to deal with the sadistic games of Joffrey and Ramsey, she's never ever felt truly safe until she made it back to winterfel with Jon and even then you can still see some of her PTSD. It's already bad enough that the Purity of her home was sullied by Ramsey, but now she had to feel unsafe around her own damn family in her own damn home? Honestly fuck Arya and fuck DD. It was gross and hard to watch but Sansa stood her ground. The ONLY saving grace was the fact that Sansa got to stand up for herself and rightfully called Arya out for being a clueless psycho. Sansa was also the only character this episode acting smart in any way. She rightfully declines Ceresi's offer to come to KL, she sends Brienne away knowing LF wants to involve her on his schemes. She doesn't trust that fickle Lords and sees right through their shaky allegiances. Once again her concern is only for her own safety and taking care of the north and Jon's army while he's out doing a whole bunch of odd things. Speaking of Jon, he hasn't talked to Sansa In WEEKS, I wonder why? Sansa is left to keep the north on tact and he can't even communicate with her? That's odd. What's also odd is Jon's sudden extreme guilt over her dragon dying and his mythical love in supposed to see. I wanted to wait to see the scenes to make my final judgement and I'm glad I did because I feel a lot more strongly about how nonsensical it is after seeing it. Jon being all emo with Dany, even out of the blue calling her Dany already didn't make sense. But then they made him offer her the North and SHE had to ask him what about his people? Dany had to be the one concerned about the northern Lords not Jon? Like whet? Jon told thormond that Dany would only help if he bent the knee. Then Dany tells Jon she will help no matter what and she gives him her word. That should be a win win for Jon, he has secured Dany's help and he didn't have to kneel to get it and he didn't have to loose his head over it.....so would think Jon would feel great and think Dany for her graciousness and pledge to defeat the night king together and save the realm.....but instead Jon chooses that very moment to bend the knee? Like the moment where there is ZERO political advantage to doing so is the moment he gives in? And he does this because he sees how amazing Dany is and not only does he pledge to make all the Lords see this. When Dany uncharacteristically suggests that she doesn't deserve the north, Jon tells her that she in fact does deserve it? So what brings these sudden feelings on? Am I supposed to believe that Jon feels that Dany deserves the North over him, his own sister Sansa who has been running the north this whole time and saved his ass in the battle of the bastards, even his other siblings who he now knows have returned? Now suddenly Dany is the great leader the North deserves because she saved him from the suicide mission And from what I gathered from the behind the scenes commentary is that Jon does this because he realizes the gravity of his feelings for her that she's apparently been in great denial about all this time? So Jon, the respected leader hands over the North against the will of his people for true love. Jon Snow, is gonna go back to winterfel and tell Sansa that Daenerys deserves the North even tho it's technically Sansa's birthright that she set aside for Jon. All of Sansa hard work to keep Jon's armies together, fed, clothes, have been for nothing because Jon fell in love with the dragon queen and wants her to rule the north regardless of how his Lords will feel about it. Like sighhhhhhhh. I want to be on board with the theories that it's all a game but honestly my faith has wavered because of just how blatantly bad this episode was. Honestly if I wanted to have my intelligence insulted this much I would watch another CW show.
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