#maria bertram

[bethanydelleman]

Now that I think about it you are the perfect person to explain Mariah to me from Mansfield Park and I'm not looking to like her per se but I never understood why she insisted on getting married ridiculously fast. Like I know women needed to get married but why such a horrible choice? Was she getting too old?

Hello! Thank you for calling me perfect. Here are the relevant quotes:

Being now in her twenty-first year, Maria Bertram was beginning to think matrimony a duty; and as a marriage with Mr. Rushworth would give her the enjoyment of a larger income than her father’s, as well as ensure her the house in town, which was now a prime object, it became, by the same rule of moral obligation, her evident duty to marry Mr. Rushworth if she could. (Ch 4)

Henry Crawford had destroyed her happiness, but he should not know that he had done it; he should not destroy her credit, her appearance, her prosperity, too. He should not have to think of her as pining in the retirement of Mansfield for him, rejecting Sotherton and London, independence and splendour, for his sake. Independence was more needful than ever; the want of it at Mansfield more sensibly felt. She was less and less able to endure the restraint which her father imposed. The liberty which his absence had given was now become absolutely necessary. She must escape from him and Mansfield as soon as possible, and find consolation in fortune and consequence, bustle and the world, for a wounded spirit. Her mind was quite determined, and varied not..... In all the important preparations of the mind she was complete: being prepared for matrimony by an hatred of home, restraint, and tranquillity; by the misery of disappointed affection, and contempt of the man she was to marry. (Ch 21)

Maria is not too old, she's only 21 and the average age of first marriage in her era was 23.4 for women (Women's History of Britian, 2005). She has several reasons to want to marry, none of them particularly good: wealth, freedom, and hatred of home (also sticking it to Henry Crawford). Her motivations can be understood is we look at the two major influences in her life, Sir Thomas and Mrs. Norris.

Sir Thomas is a strict father who has allowed the indolence of his wife to deprive his daughters of an opportunity to mix much in society. Maria and Julia both really want to spend time in London and have fun. Maria sees marriage as the only way out, especially after having tasted freedom while her father was away. When Henry is no longer a prospect, she clings to Rushworth as her escape route.

Mrs. Norris is obsessed with money and married below the income she wanted. Her principles have been taught to her favourite niece, so Maria accepts that marrying for money is a duty. Maria has been taught, just like Mary Crawford, to disregard feelings in favour of wealth (a good income is the best recipe for happiness). Unfortunately (for her), Maria was never Mrs. Norris and her passions overcome her mercenary education in the end. The "moral obligation" is sarcastic, it reveals how messed up Maria's sense of morality has become.

Lastly, disappointed in Henry Crawford, Maria marries to prove that he hasn't ruined her life. What Maria should have learned from the Henry flirtation is that she is a passionate woman who yearns for love, but she never took that lesson.

Also, I wrote an imaginary conversation between Maria and Mrs. Norris, expanding on these points. I posted it to AO3 for you:

#question response #maria bertram #sir thomas #mrs. norris #henry crawford #mansfield park #why maria wanted to marry so badly #maria is not a good person but it was tragic that she was led astray by people who claimed to love her

[janefrigginausten]

Wretchedly did he feel, that with all the cost and care of an anxious and expensive education, he had brought up his daughters without their understanding their first duties, or his being acquainted with their character and temper.

—Jane Austen, Mansfield Park

#sir thomas bertram #jane austen #mansfield park quotes #mansfield park quote #mansfield park #sir thomas #jane austen quote #Jane Austen quotes #education quotes #education #classic books #books #classic book quote #book quotes #Julia bertram #Maria bertram #parenting quotes

[curiousb]

The Bertram Family Album: Volume XVII

Fanny is finding some consolation for her recent bereavement in caring for her two new grandsons, Edwin...

~ Sagittarius 9 / 3 / 6 / 6 / 10

~ Shy / Neat

~ OTH: Fitness

...and Alfred.

~ Cancer 8/ 5 / 6 / 4 / 9

~ Anxious / Perfectionist

~ OTH: Science

With two toddlers to run around after, William and Keziah certainly need all the help they can get.

And having grandma on the team is about to become even more vital, since Keziah's recent brush with Death doesn't seem to have deterred her from expanding the family still further!

Thankfully, it all goes smoothly this time, and they soon have a new baby daughter to add to the collection - welcome to the family, Maria!

Ermm, OK, you might just want to slow down a bit there Keziah, before Bertram progeny completely take over my whole neighbourhood...

Much as Fanny loves her grandchildren, it doesn't take much to persuade her that it's time to put her feet up at last...

...leaving William and Keziah with four under-fives to care for by themselves. Welcome to the madhouse, Arthur! In contrast to his siblings he's a blonde, with his grandfather Edmund's hazel eyes.

#sims 2 #gameplay #merybury #edmund bertram #fanny price #william bertram #keziah dashwood #edwin bertram #alfred bertram #maria bertram #arthur bertram #bertram family

[lonelyqueenofhearts]

𝘍𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘺 𝘗𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘦 & 𝘏𝘦𝘯𝘳𝘺 𝘊𝘳𝘢𝘸𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘥

#mansfield park #mansfield park 1999 #fanny price #henry crawford #jane austen #austen #fanny price x henry crawford #henry crawford x fanny price #I don't like them in the books but they had so much chemistry in the movie #fanny x henry #henry x fanny #edmund bertram #mary crawford #maria bertram #frances o'connor #alessandro nivola

[whenthegoldrays]

In other news, I blacked out earlier and woke up with this Maria Bertram playlist 🧍🏻‍♀️

#mansfield park #maria bertram #maria rushworth #spotify #spotify playlist #elly's posts

[frozenwolftemplar]

I like to think that Jane Austen would be pleased to know that me, a twenty-first century reader who has become long inured to the romantic drama that surrounds celebrities like paparazzi, still had her (likely expected) reaction to the developments surrounding Maria, Henry, and Julia.

*reads Mary’s letter alluding to some horrible rumor involving Henry and the Rushworths* 😲 😲 😲 What, was there a duel? Did Henry make a pass at Maria? Did they run away together? (no, that’s ridiculous, they wouldn’t do something that far beyond propriety...)

*reads the newspaper* Oh my gosh, they did!!! Well, at least this can’t get any worse-

*reads about Julia and Yates on their scandalously merry way to Gretna Green* 😱😱😱

This book has been a ride. And I still have two chapters to go!

#mansfield park #jane austen #henry crawford #maria bertram #julia bertram

[themalhambird]

a small stumble

The play might require a certain amount of touching, if it was going to be carried off properly but- Maria was well aware- doing the play properly was not really required of their little troupe. Agatha would be known as Frederick’s mother whether she caressed him or not - Frederick might be a dutiful son even if he never did more than make a filial little bow every now and then. It was enough to say the lines- to stand in close proximity to Crawford and have a reason to be looking straight in to those rich, earth-dark eyes of his and feel the thrill of a new kind of heat pooling in her cheeks, and the flutterings that stirred low in her stomach as he looked back…if only Sotherton had been his- or if only he and his sister had come to Mansfield before Mr Rushworth had returned to the local society. As it was- well. Crawford wasn’t, and Crawford hadn’t, and these little rehearsals were- two friends, having fun, not touching one another, while dear little Fanny chaperoned.

And then, one evening, Crawford seized her hand toward the end of one of his lines. 

Maria’s voice dried up- the opening words of Agatha’s response fled from her mind- she stammered some nothing syllables as she searched for it, while her skin tingled and he smiled a small, sly smile. “Apologies, Miss Bertram- I was so caught up in the -character, it really did feel natural-” he dropped his hand.

“Not at all,” Maria said, letting her own hand fall back to the side- though the phantom sensations of his grip still lingered. “The playscript calls for such a gesture, I believe.” “Indeed, I do believe that you’re right.��� his eyes bore into hers. The script made no such direction, she knew- and if she knew, he must know likewise- they were both too well rehearsed in the lines for it to be otherwise. And she- she had been his preference for Agatha all along- when they rehearsed apart from the others it had always been his suggestion- she had been careful of that. And the way he was looking at her… She extended her hand back out to him .“Let us go from the end of your section again,” she suggested, “I have my own lines straight in my head again- this time, I will not stumble.”

#Mansfield Park #Maria Bertram #Henry Crawford #Maria x Crawford #look I just wanted to explore their rehersing together a little more okay? Also i just wanted to write something and get it out there cause #i haven't in ages so. *shrugs*

[swedishgirlsbonanza]

#Maria bertram

[postcard-from-the-past]

Princess Margarete Karola Wilhelmine Viktoria Adelheid Albertine Petrusa Bertram Paula of Saxony Princess Anna Monika Pia of Saxony Princess Maria Alix Luitpold of Saxony

German vintage postcard

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[perfettamentechic]

23 ottobre … ricordiamo …

23 ottobre … ricordiamo … #semprevivineiricordi #nomidaricordare #personaggiimportanti #perfettamentechic

2020: Maria Grazia Bon, attrice italiana. (n. 1943) 2019: Roberta Fiorentini, attrice italiana, nota soprattutto per il ruolo di Itala nella serie televisiva Boris.  (n. 1948) 2018: James Karen, attore statunitense.  (n. 1923) 2012: Corrado Lojacono, cantante, attore e compositore italiano. Debuttò alla radio nel 1945. (n. 1924) 1999: Luciano Soprani, stilista italiano. (n. 1946) 1994: Robert…

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[bethanydelleman]

How do you think Maria Bertram living with Mrs Norris's future looks like beyond the novel?

I wrote a story about this!

It ended in Mrs. Norris’s resolving to quit Mansfield and devote herself to her unfortunate Maria, and in an establishment being formed for them in another country, remote and private, where, shut up together with little society, on one side no affection, on the other no judgment, it may be reasonably supposed that their tempers became their mutual punishment. Ch 48

More realistically, I think Mrs. Norris will grow to resent Maria and will start to treat her more and more like Fanny. We know that Mrs. Norris only punches down: she mistreats Fanny Price as a poor relation and servants. Maria Bertram/Rushworth were above Mrs. Norris socially, but Maria in Disgrace is not.

Despite provision from Sir Thomas, I see Mrs. Norris beginning to begrudge Maria of every penny of her own money and push for stricter economy to preserve the income Sir Thomas provides. Given their isolation and her former style of living, Maria would hate this and argue about it, causing worse feelings.

It is a thorough punishment indeed! I personally don't like Maria at all, but I hope she finds a way out. No one deserves this.

#question response #Mansfield Park #maria bertram #mrs. norris

[badmovieihave]

Bad movie I have R.L. Stine Goosebumps 3-Pack Thriller It has Attack of the Jack-O’-Lanterns 1996, The Headless Ghost 1996, and The Scarecrow Walks at Midnight 1996

#Attack of the Jack-O’-Lanterns #Erica Luttrell #Aidan Desalaiz #Maria Paikin #Gino Giacomini #The Headless Ghost #Andreanne Benidir #Kenny Vadas #Dennis O'Connor #Sean Vertigo #Daniel Goodfellow #The Scarecrow Walks at Midnight #Heather Bertram #John E. Campbell #Bob Clout #Louise Nicol #R.L. Stine Goosebumps 3-Pack Thriller

[gwydpolls]

Lucian's Library 3

Feel free to suggest never written books you wish you could read.

Option slightly shaved to fit the format.

#Patrick Rothfuss #The Kingkiller Chronicle #The Sandman #Terry Pratchett #The Mystery of Edwin Drood #Charles Dickens #Hilary Mantel #Shirley Jackson #Elizabeth Gaskell #A Mansfield Park #Jane Austen #Patrick O'Brian #Aubrey–Maturin series #C.S. Lewis #Agamemnon #Dorothy L. Sayers #Lord Peter Wimsey #Kubla Khan #Samuel Taylor Coleridge #Christopher Marlowe #Kit Marlow

[warrioreowynofrohan]

After a reread of Persuasion, I’m thinking about how it relates to Austen’s character types discussed in this post. It stands out from S&S, P&P, and Mansfield Park in not haveing a ‘charming rake’ type as the main male antagonist, but instead a reserved, intelligent, courteous, cold-blooded and selfish man. There is no counterpart to Willoughby, Wickham, or Henry Crawford.

Instead, if Mr. Elliot is a counterpart to any of the characters in Austen’s other novels, he feels like a dark mirror of Darcy. They are both reserved; both (at least at the time of the main plot of the book) place a high value on social status, and look down on commonness and vulgarity. However, while Darcy’s arrogance makes him rude, Mr. Elliot has impeccable manners; and where Darcy in has strong principles and treats the people for whom he is responsible well, Mr. Elliot is a hypocrite and, though voicing good principles, is in fact cruel and uncaring to those who are dependent on him. Mr. Elliot is, really, the type of person that Wickham portrays Darcy as being. The other thing that brought this comparison to my mind is Mrs. Smith’s description of the friendship between her husband and Mr. Elliot, which very much recalls the one between Bingley and Darcy (as an additional note, both Mr. Smith and Bingley are named Charles):

From his wife’s account of him she could discern Mr. Smith to have been a man of warm feelings, easy temper, careless habits, and not strong understanding, much more amiable than his friend and very unlike him - led by him

I think this all goes with one of Austen’s common themes, and one that is especially important to Persuasion - the importance of not marrying in overmuch haste and without good knowledge of and, at a minimum, respect for your partner. Darcy is decidedly not like Mr. Elliot in character - but at the time if his first proposal, for all Elizabeth knew he might have been.

And on the flip side, Frederick Wentworth is not like Willoughby or Wickham - but given the short time Anne had known him when he first proposed, he might have been, and Lady Russell certainly sees that danger. He is, at that time, daring and charismatic, but not prudent, having saved none of the money that he won in his naval career. There’s also another reference to the ‘charming rake’ type in that, like Henry Crawford, he for a while courts two sisters, the elder of whom is attached (though, unlike Maria Bertram, not engaged) to another man. In Wentworth’s defence, he isn’t aware of the latter, and isn’t trying to make them both fall in love with him, just being his (naturally charming) self, and keeping his eyes open for who he might like to marry; and he very nearly gets himself badly entangled and, later, freely acknowledges that as his own fault. Really, Wentworth has elements of all three of Austen’s main male character types, and is the better for it. (Anne herself has, I think, the most in common with Elinor Dashwood in being the only sensible and intelligent person in her family, and in being very perceptive, and with Fanny Price is being rather quiet and imposed upon.)

On the whole, this combination of characters makes the book feel less on the side of intelligence and judgement, and more on the side of a warm and open heart, in making for happiness, whereas S&S and P&P focus more strongly on the need for ‘sense’ and intelligence. Intelligence may well be a necessary quality for a truly good marriage, but it is not a sufficient one, not when it is combined with a cold and selfish heart.

#jane austen #persuasion #pride and predujice #anne elliot #mr elliot #mr darcy #frederick wentworth

[constantvigilante]

Look, I actually like Edmund Bertram but it's kind of hilarious how wrong he is in this book. He thinks Maria just isn't a romantic person. He sees Mary Crawford's sketchy morals and wants to, like, save her basically? And "[Henry Crawford] has no faults but what a serious attachment would remove." Bro? Really??

#he MEANS WELL but he's SO off #fanny however can do no wrong #love my poor girl and her clear vision

[firawren]

Austen siblings: the worst of the worst

Please vote based on their depiction in the books, not the movies. Other than that, use whatever criteria you want. Most toxic? Least well-suited to each other? Most well-suited to being awful together? Most annoying? Least realistic? Up to you!

These are in alphabetical order by last name, so read the whole list before voting!

I have a best Austen siblings poll too.

#yes the crawfords are on both the best and worst polls #and i expect will get votes on both #jane austen characters #jane austen #siblings #polls