#made me miss some old friends

[doll-elvis]

I’m just having one of those days…

(crying over a man I never met because I miss him)

#forgive me while I rant #does anyone else have friends or family that tease you over your love for elvis #I got randomly really emotional and sad on a car ride home last night #we were driving by the beach and it reminded me of his last vacation to hawaii in ‘77 #and it made me think about how he passed away so young #how he was stripped of all the little joys life has to offer #like swimming in the ocean #feeling the breeze #relaxing in the sun #almost everyone in his group got to grow old and experience a lifetime of all the little things like that #but he didn’t #it’s just so unfair #and yeah then my whole family teased me and played unchained melody to purposely make me more upset #I know it seems dumb to some people to cry over someone you never met #but I just feel so sad for elvis #I know he had an amazing life and career but he deserved to enjoy it longer #I’ll miss him forever #personal rant #elvis presley #elvisaaronpresley #elvis #elvis fans #elvis photos #i love him

[hxhhasmysoul]

wouldn't it be nice if the author of the fics finished them. the author is me.

#vent #for the last 4 months my life has been in stupid crisis mode #like constantly #from major ones where i had to move out for a while because it was impossible to stay where i lived #to not being able to use my kitchen for over a week #and like other more or less minor house related stuff that made it impossible for me to use something normally #not a single week without something like that or shit at work which is constantly being so fucking chaotic #and now someone died in my family #not someone very close but i liked them #and of course like feeling sad that they are gone can't be the only thing #because it has to come with the headache of i need to travel for their funeral and it's just before easter #so there's no one in this city to leave my dog with #because most of my friends either live abroad or have cats or are busy before easter.. #i'd just want a week where nothing happens #and like the writing is weighing heavy on me #because i miss it #also i wish i could finish something #i wish something good would happen that i could feel proud off #also because i'm mentally ill and fucking stupid when i was going crazy with my kitchen not working and work shit #i bought new furniture #because after 15 years i've finally had enough money to buy some that aren't fucking black and inconvenient and ugly #which is like a huge project and a crisis i brought onto myself #just because i was too burnt out to write #and i wanted something nice to happen to me #like a nice living space that doesn't make feel like i have no ownership over it because everything in it was some else's choice #and that old furniture was bought by my mother and my brother ages ago and it's handmedowns #and my fucking horrible mother feels personally slighted that i want to get rid of a bed that is broken #because my brother's kids jumped on it regularly when they used to visit pre covid #yeah it's been broken that long because i lost all my savings during covid and had to change careers to a souless pointless corpo job #long pathetic whine and overshare over

[nostalgicfun]

When we talk about nostalgia we generally talk about our childhood, but what’s something fairly recent-ish you’re somehow already nostalgic for? 🌈

#in 2021 I started watching Game of Thrones with a friend/guy I was kind of seeing. I don't miss him or the rest of the friend group #but I get nostalgic for the drive to the city where he lived and how we'd drive around lisening to music and finding some place cool to eat #and then sit on the couch watching a show that was absolutely blowing my dragon-loving mind #also when animal crossing new horizons first came out in 2020 and I was off work and stuck in the apartment and would play AC and watch #old shows for hours #slightly further back but I get nostalgic for when I was like 20 and would stay up until like 3am playing Fallout 4 #because it was the best thing I had in my life #additionally unrelated but the other day my BF and I were sitting on our patio feeding the geese and he put his arm around me and said #''we'll miss this one day'' #and it made me smile because I say/think that all the time and he didn't know that

[icybevybev]

Sad &lonely Tuesday

#really thought I would’ve made some mom friends by now #we’ve gone to story time 4times and it’s like everyone knows each other #I try to small talk but feel so excluded #not to mention I tried joining two other mom groups that ghosted me?? #I guess I’m just really not fitting I. with these midwesterners #really miss our old play group &mom friends back home🫤

[theinkbunny]

”oh you want to keep that? It’s so girly are you even trans?”

(Rant in tags if you wanna read it ig)

#Mom yelled at me bc I wanted to keep a dress that had memories attached to it #I hate dresses but look. #It has a stain on it where my friend who moved far away dropped some paint on it where my thigh would be #It has a loose string tied sloppily into a flower from a friend who had issues speaking her feelings and instead acted them #It has discoloured patches from my old friend who I haven’t been able to talk to in months hugging me and her bracelets rubbing against it #It has memories attached to it #Just like how my purple coat does #I always have a bag of mint tea in it because a while back somebody got me a huge pack of it during a secret Santa because they noticed - #- i had a stuffy nose during the winter due to allergy’s and often couldn’t breathe properly #I have thousand of sticky notes of a made up language somebody in my class made and wanted me to be in #Hell even my shoes show this sorts of stuff. #My converse that I wore for so long the laces tore? They’re covered in writing from my friend who’s a poet at heart #My big #chunky platforms? Filled with sparkles and dust from a party my friend had #For crying out loud soon I’m gonna be filling my room with Sanrio and feather stickers #Because everytime my ex gf sees me (we’re still friends btw) she always manages to put a sticker somewhere on me #MY SKETCHBOOKS TOO. Full of little doodles and hearts and paint splatters and everything you can think of. #My notebooks for writing? I forgot it a week i went off for surgery and I came back to it full of stories I liked and stores that had them- #For cheap because they knew my family wasn’t doing too well. And full of notes of them missing me #Seriously like I have a string on my wall full of notes from them because that’s been my pickmeup for whenever I’m not on here #It’s pathetic I know I just don’t care. I love them and I know they love me too. I hope they’re well

[derpinette]

sometimes i will get bored & go through someone's entire blog since its creation

#& if they have their blog made unsearchable therefore no archive to pick posts from i take it as a challenge #& i really read every post not just skimming i gave up archives caus i find it hard to pay attention to individual posts #plus you never see the full tags & clearly from my postings they serve as the single most important part of a post #the actual post is more of like a title or a sort of epigraph #& i am interested in the Posters themselves like i feel compelled to absorb&gather as much information about them as possible #in an effort to understand them ( as well as myself Many epiphanies & revelations came to me from this activity i recommend it ) #i just did this BTW not saying who but god if you never knew of her you totally missed out on the best Poaster tumblr has ever had to offer #her mind was unlike any other & her influence on me is so noticeable even today. wishing her well today & always #also (moving on from that) i even constantly have like 40 tumblr blog tabs open at all times #some that are even i think 3 years old now #i never close them they keep me company i will not really click on yhem either To be honest but those are like my friends My chums; #on my phone as well two year old tabs from when i was still in highschool of tumblr blogs i was reading #i just have so much Love in my heart for Posters real genuine love not interpersonal just as an Observer #well kind of interpersonal when it comes to some #so if you have a tracker & you see someone from north africa spending hours or even days or months on your blog #that would be me #i actually did spend months once back when blogs opened on the side i never shut my laptop off & my tabs are always saved #had to go back & scroll a little to keep the page active to not refresh & i got as far back as 2010 i think #because their blog did not have an archive but NOTHING will stop me OK if you got a Beautiful Mind or Gift Of Curation #i will do anything in my power to enjoy it. without disturbing you ( as much as i can anyway )

[caffeinated-beverage]

/vent

why is my psyche so weak that even the end of a god damn online friendship is enough to put me in a bad mental state for over a year :’(

i get too attached to people too quickly, and you’d think i would learn my lesson by now, but NOPE!! I dive into friendships too quickly and then get upset to the point of physical illness when they turn out to be a dickhead </3

but based on how often i get hurt, i feel like i really should learn to be less open and friendly with people and more distant and cold, at least for the first month or so </3

and to top it off, nobody ever listens to me or my stupid-ass concerns. nobody cares to even try listening. nobody..

I JUST WISH SOMEONE WOULD LISTEN TO ME FFS :’(

I JUST WANT GOOD FRIENDS!!! MY HEART CAN’T TAKE ANY MORE OF THIS SHIT :(

part of me thinks making new friends would help me feel better, but the other part of me feels like it would be a bad idea for me to jump into new friendships just yet, as i have barely even healed at all yet, and getting my heart broke again at this point could be catastrophic :(

#i miss my old friends even if they were assholes #but i cant go back to them bc being with them made me upset to the point of nausea #why am i so weak mentally #crying mentally right now because there are some occasions where i am too upset to cry externally #im so damn weak in the head ffs #im so weak #why am i so weak #im too easy to hurt #why cant i be stronger #why am i so fragile

[cinna-bunnie]

i had a fun day 2 day ૮˶• ﻌ •˶ა everyone has been so nicey 2 me all day from the minute i left my house earlier ૮ ᴖﻌᴖა ♡⁠

i went to a Retreat for the first time for work earlier 0: and I did SO good for being up since 2am it didn't even feel like it 💀

it was so chill i drove like an hour away but Away from the city so there wasn't rly traffic and the mountains r so pretty 2 drive thru (❁´◡`❁) got some rain n v low clouds and since it's autumn there's all these pretty colors. i took an edible on the way n was just jammin out n enjoying the scenery among the many safe opportunities 2 look

and then at the thing we got 2 do different ice breakers n go on decently long breaks; i got 2 hang in different groups n actually Talk w a bunch of ppl which i never have time for omg. it's nice working at a legal nonprofit, i would NOT want to do this with corporate mfs !! 😹

went around n said hii to the enbies and i ran up a hill that looked a lot smaller than it was, i made it like 80% of the way before my legs were immediately like no girl we're done !! but my brain was like but it's Right There, and i struggled 2 finish the climb but I Did !! ૮ ᴖﻌᴖა and i was so so tired i do not remember ever being that winded before 💀 getting down was so much slower n worse bc my legs were Done and when i finally made it to the bottom i laid flat on my back for like 15m, and when when i made it back to sit n chill i still need like 10 more minutes akskska. i do not b exercising !! i just wanted 2 play it looked fun and i got excited (⁠｡⁠ﾉ⁠ω⁠＼⁠｡⁠)

in between things i was working on my sister's choker n kept winding up w a group of ppl around me 2 talk to about it and just talk 2 in general n the company was rly nice (❁´◡`❁) ♡ had a lot of different kinda talks 2day!! everyone is a sweetie!! some ppl r so funny n chill and i rly hope 2 get 2 talk more casually w people perhaps As Friends when i go in 👉👈

there's one girl in particular who is rly cute n sweet and i want 2 see her again ૮˶• ﻌ •˶ა when I got home finally i had 2 hop on my work laptop real quick 2 look up her name again 2 make sure i didn't forget ☝️😌 we do not work at the same office but hii i am visiting next week 🐇

yippee!!!! ૮ ᴖﻌᴖა !!!

#i think i have become an introverted extrovert at some point 0: #which is rly nice bc my social anxiety was SO bad at the beginning of the year like i didn't even know where to start skskdksk #but i kinda figured it out? but it's also just being me? idk.. much 2 think. but i made good progress #i am getting a good grade in being funny and nice and talking to people !! #i want 2 kiss someone on the forehead #omg but if there's ANYONE who deserves a kiss it's this old lady who lives a few buildings down on the way to my car #where EVERY time i see her she always has something so so sweet to tell me about how i look #today she said I'm always looking fancy (⁠｡⁠ﾉ⁠ω⁠＼⁠｡⁠) ♡⁠ and more but that's the main thing i remember besides the small talk #and the first time we met she asked me if i was a model fr and she's told me I'm cute and I'm just like PLEASE SKDKDKS #i can't fully tell if you're just really sweet or kinda 👀 at me but girl u r so sweet like hello do u Want a hug or a kiss ?? i love u !! #old ladies have a warmth they fill u with that just take the weight of Everything off ur shoulders n leave u feeling full n happy!! #bless old ladies fr!! literally my favorite people to interact with always i love u abuelas everywhere u r everything to me and i would do #anything for u !!!! i miss getting to help friends grandmas w stuff as a kid 🥺 it was just always great 2 talk 2 them and be close n on #good terms n stuff :3 i was the same way with their moms hehe. hi hello i want 2 help !! (⁠✿ ‚‚⌒‿⌒‚‚) #my friend is being lame and acting embarrassed but i love you please talk to me i am so so interested and think you're really #cool and funny and sweet and wise actually ૮ ᴖﻌᴖა ♡⁠ i wanna be around u if u wanna hang out #even if it's as simple as getting 2 help in the kitchen n always helping w dishes n stuff ૮˶• ﻌ •˶ა aaa ♡⁠ #omg i was late 2 the thing too and missed the breakfast and there's this sweet energetic old lady who's always like #omg u didn't get to eat? do u want this? can i get you some coffee or tea? and I'm always just like no no it's okay I'm gonna get it but #appreciate the offer and just ૮ – ﻌ–ა she is always looking out 4 me !! but she's just a sweetie like that !! #i think sharing food is a universally good way 2 make friends and it always warms my heart 2 meet ppl who r the same (❁´◡`❁) #they r always so so sweet 😭🥰 for my astrology girlies i correctly guessed that she's a taurus hehe 😼 #there's another old lady who's an office manager for one of the offices n she is so soft spoken n sweet and i wish i got 2 hug her n talk #to her more 🥺 she's so far though omg i don't get to see her in person much #n e ways i work w some really warm bubbly ppl ૮˶• ﻌ •˶ა i am a happy girlie 2day!! then im going Serious Mode again tmrw 🫡 #oo i get to setup like an Actual server for a rack w linux and it's being delivered 2 my place tomorrow 0: I'm excited abt it as a project #AND my new jewelry came in today along w some cute underwear we r starting this wk off strong !!! #there was so so much more frm 2day i am just rly stoned n thinking abt it all (⁠〒⁠﹏⁠〒⁠) #if u actually read all of my ramble ily ty for letting me Talk ૮˶• ﻌ •˶ა ♡⁠

[semercury]

i miss things.

#stuff sarah says #i think i mostly miss the tight knit community with close friends #writing is a very lonely hobby and it was nice having a hype crew #i went back to look at memes i made for old longfics. i miss doing that. #i still share wips with some people and love adore and appreciate the feedback i get #but idk. the energy was different back then. but i think my energy in general is different now #everyone including myself is out here fighting for their lives #no time to make and laugh at memes about niche fics #idk. i feel like this makes me sound ungrateful. i'm not #i just miss the tiny writer club i had with a certain group of friends #feels bad bc i'm basically the one who set it on fire on account of me being insane #idk. i'm tired. i feel gross. i cried in my car bc my food was missing half the order or at least what i was used to #so if that tells you what kind of mental state i'm in rn... #and on top of it i'm trying to write a heavy scene #like hi you almost died but can we talk about the drunk phone calls? please stop telling me how much you want to die #i love you and i don't want you to die. i already had someone die in my arms a few years ago i can't handle that again thanks #cool. love you. no smooches yet. let's get our daughter and get the fuck out of here i'm tired #edit: and another thing. i miss just interacting with fics in general. mine and others #but alas i'm terrified #if i go on ao3 and am happy something is Going To Get Me #there's fucking ooze there and i'm tired of it! i want to use my fic site again!!!!!!! #i miss it!!!!!! i miss getting so hyped over other people's writing and feeling like i can say that!!!!!!!!! #i don't feel like i'm allowed to anymore and it sucks!!!!!!!!! #i don't want to read and not be hype. but just going on ao3 takes so much energy and effort and reading is so so hard these days #that i know i won't have enough energy for a proper comment so like. why should i enjoy what someone made if i can't even share that #joy with them? #and i know that's so so so stupid bc i think very few people would ever expect that of others? #like i know at least for me i'd rather have someone read and not interact than not read at all #not that it looks like i think like that bc i haven't replied to anyone in forever #but that's bc i go to and then i get the shakes bc i'm nuts and there's ooze!!!!! i'm tired of the ooze!

[tnbc-thoughtsandheadcanons]

Still kind of amazed that this blog has been around for...7 years? Like, the time REALLY flows by...

#like i made this blog a year before zero's journey came out!!! #i was still in high school #looking back on it i certainly miss and don't miss some things about the old days #i'm glad i've grown as a person and how i respond to things and gradually stepping off of social media for a bit of time helped #i was definitely in the Extreme Hyperfixation where i starved myself and obsessively searched for tnbc news in every hour of my days #i'm glad there's still a lot going on and it's not like. a dead fandom or anything. but i do miss my old friends and mutuals #that i've lost over time #but it definitely gets quiet a lot of the time. i still am obsessed with this movie and it just doesn't go away??? #i sometimes wish i could move onto other things like all my old friends did but #i'm still here with the same interests same blog same thing and sometimes that makes me feel Lonely #i still run the discord and it's lots of fun! but #man.

[whiskingskin]

Yo guess who just finished A Court Of Thorns and Roses

#yes im going to be insufferable #yES i spent all day reading a romance book abt fairies and YEA it made me hard #SO WHAT #anyway holy fuck yall #i need to make another post there aint gonna be any room #i say lowkey 6/10. writing felt young and bare #though im a fruit and prefer reading more flowery metaphor filled confusing ass psychological stuff #it was a great book and ive already purchased the other ones #but it was also sort of predictable and a smidge TOOOOO cheesy for me at times #perhaps i need to get out of my own head though- i did read it in one mf sitting lmaooo #i have so many words and literally no friends that like to read books #actually considering joining a book club because every book ive read has changed me in some way shape or form #[this one reawakened my previous love for stockholm type romance- and sent me down a rabbit hole of rereading my old faves!!] #i dont understand how 5 more books were made though. tbh only had 1 MAYBE 2 burning questions/desire to read feelings at the end of the book #it wraps up neatly and stands beautifully as a solo book i suppose #but i miss the dedication to a series!! let me be confused and scared and so mad the next book isnt in the library rn! #TOTAL FURB SCORE: 6/10 furbs

[callistomoons]

I usually don't post these types of things, but are there any active discord servers for shippu iron leaguer out there still that I could join? I remember a while back there was this one server I had been in, though I'm pretty sure it was deleted at some point and that was years ago. Small groups are even fine if there aren't any servers I just genuinely want to meet others who I can talk with and enjoy our common interests

#shippu iron leaguer #shippu! iron leaguer #iron leaguer #ive been rewatching a lot of shows I used to watch #iron leaguer was just one of those shows that brought me comfort when I was growing up #Id love to be apart of the community again even though i dont post fanart #Pllls I just need to make some IL friends so we can talk about our interests while giggling and kicking our feet #I remember back when I was a kid and made soooo many ocs it was insane #I miss my old IL friends

[samiraheaven93]

Do you have a recipe/dish that you associate with a loved one?

Ask then for the recipe! Ask if you they could show you how to prepare it.

And WRITE IT DOWN! Not just on your phone… have it physical in your hand.

There will be a time when you need their comfort but they can’t be there (for whatever reason) and I found that even looking about a recipe like that (and/or making it) brings me comfort… for me it feels like they are there… (it can be totally different for you of course!)

Does looking at the dish/smelling/tasting it make me very emotional? Yes! But it also makes me feel better… (crying helps!)

#food #kinda? #I kinda regret not asking my grandma about recipes of the dishes she made #even if they are from a book… they are not the same #(let alone if the book is old and has not very clear instructions ^^’) #of course this is also about friends who moved away or live so far away that you don’t have much contact because stupid timezones #(some friends shared recipies with me and whenever I make them/look at them it makes me smile…) #I have regular contact with them but only via the internet #making these things makes me feel closer to them #man today is an emotional day huh… #I would love to hug my friends… and I miss my grandma… #if someone is interested … I could share some of my grandmas recipes that I kinda had to recreate #they aren’t the same but close enough #and that is enough!

[bubblegumsunshine333]

Star Wars spinoffs are wack nowadays. Why the fuck would Han Solo's ex-girlfriend know the guy who killed Rey's parents?

Say I underestimate, and I imagine the population of the galaxy is in the trillions (Coruscant alone has trillions, so I can't begin to imagine the true population count). Why do all ~100 movie characters with names and lines know each other? Out of trillions of people, how have they all met, most of the time through random circumstance (i.e. not being introduced by mutual friends)? Worst world-building ever. You couldn't even convince me it was likely for two of them to run into each other if they were in a grocery store at the same time. It's nonsense that every random side character has to be connected in a ludicrous way.

The old (Lucas era) spinoffs were also wack, but at least some of it tried to stay grounded. There was so much emphasis on nobodies, it was thrilling. It was great reading a book with characters no one would hear from again, or playing a game where you're a protagonist who nobody fucking knows or respects, with 0 reputation outside of your accomplishments in that game. Nowadays, every single story has "chosen one" levels of predictability. The prequel trilogy establishing a "chosen one" prophecy was one of it's most criticized aspects, yet every new writer makes sure that their main character gets as close to being a chosen one as possible. It's bland and offensively predictable.

Don't get me wrong, some of the new stuff is very grounded too! Like Rebels, Squadrons, and Visions. So many nobodies doing cool stuff. It makes the Star Wars galaxy feel like an exciting realm to live in, where people are just people, but anybody has the opportunity to have a cool personal adventure that doesn't have to tie directly back to Darth Vader. I miss it, and clearly others do too. It's why Mando S1 was well-received (they were nobodies, doing cool shit). It's why people are obsessed with clones to this day (they were also nobodies, literally assigned a serial number, doing cool shit).

#star wars #btw I swear a lot in this I'm not actually mad I just swear a lot irl... proofreading this I realized I might seem upset to a random person #finding out Qi'ra met Ochi made me laugh because it's just so silly #I've been on a binge of old SW stuff recently (not just stuff I'm familiar with so no nostalgic bias) #and a lot of the new stuff is just jarring #it's like if for some reason we found out Plo Koon went to kindergarten with DJ (Don't Join) #sure that's physically possible I guess but why? #I just miss more casual stories like Republic Commando or Jedi Academy or TIE Fighter or Jedi Starfighter where you're just a person #and you make friends potentially and you do cool stuff and experience cool events not significant enough to make galactic news

[aceredshirt13]

not to be too mean to The Return of the Departed Soul, which was largely a delightful case, but how did the proposed motive for Albert killing Asman make any sense whatsoever?? The whole basis was that he supposedly killed Asman so he could have the grant money to himself, but all things considered I’m pretty sure inventing a teleportation machine that kills anyone who tries to get teleported would get you roughly £0 from the British government. It’s not even the case that it was a pot of grant money already given and intended to be split, since Asman’s death caused Enoch to get none of the money, and Albert mentions at the end of the case that if he had any grant money, he’d give it to Ryunosuke. So how on Earth would that make sense as a motive for murder staged as a super-high-voltage instantaneous kinesis accident??

Honestly, I’m sure it was just a creative oversight, but I’m choosing to believe that it was Barok trying to deliberately sabotage himself in a way subtle enough that he wouldn’t be removed from the case. After all, when first hearing it proposed as a motive, it makes sense, but upon a bit of thought it’s completely illogical. So given that Barok at the very least had a reasonable amount of faith in Ryunosuke’s legal abilities at this point, I feel like he was sure Ryu would tear it apart the second it was spoken. (Ryu was just… distracted by other paths of argument, I guess.)

My biggest reason for thinking it may have been self-sabotage is that there’s a motive that would make far more sense given the circumstances, and one Barok would unquestionably be cognizant of: he was just attacked and injured the previous day by Asman’s henchmen as an attempt to prevent Asman’s death from the Reaper’s curse and eliminate a threat to their criminal empire. And Albert and Barok were, after all, very close friends. So it would be an entirely logical argument for the prosecution to say that Albert found out his old friend was badly hurt by a known criminal who he’d tried but failed to put behind bars, and decided that he’d kill Asman as a combination of vigilantism and revenge. But given its increased plausibility and the possibility that Barok would be removed from the case for potential sympathy for the defendant’s actions, that was a motive Barok dared not propose.

#red randomness #ace attorney #the great ace attorney #barok van zieks #albert harebrayne #odie asman #ryunosuke naruhodo #enoch drebber #I guess he’s here too lmao #Barok: I have crafted an argument that seems correct at first but has so little merit the Nipponese lawyer will tear it to shreds #Barok: Surely my old friend will be safe now - #Ryunosuke: So I think the most important thing to focus on is whether or not metal can teleport. #Barok: I’ve made a terrible mistake. #ryunosuke c’mon man I know you’re rusty but this contradiction was Right There #if there’s some detail I missed that explains this please tell me #the great ace attorney spoilers

[niallandtommo]

for some reason tumblr just showed me an old post i was tagged in with a bunch of niall blog recs and it's so sad to go through that list because so many of these niall blogs are inactive

#i was so confused and it took me a while to realize it's an old post lol #don't know why it showed up in my activity now #but my god so many of my old mutuals/friends are on the list #and most of them haven't been on here in like 3+ years #made me really sad ngl #like good for you but also i miss you all #it used to be so much fun to be on tumblr and talk to all these people #and now it's just me and my 5 mutuals screaming into the void #like don't get me wrong i still love being on here but it's not the same anymore #and also i don't understand how everyone just. moved on #like some of these people were the biggest niall stans back in the day and now they just disappeared? how do you all do this lmao #anyway don't mind me seeing this post just made me very emotional #and it sucks that i used to be really close friends with some of these people and i will probably never talk to them again