#lucifer!mary in season seven is the ONLY thing i care about

[mlobsters]

supernatural s12e21 there's something about mary (w. brad buckner, eugenie ross-leming)

....they just killed eileen off like that? that's... disappointing. make us connect with her through a really good monster of the week in s11, but then also bring her back in s12, have her and sam have a little flirty vibe, she accidentally kills some asshole bmol so she and sam can have an emotional beat. and a handful of episodes later she gets killed unceremoniously by ketch and, apparently, a trained hellhound. because that makes sense. no more things going bump in the night! except for the ones i use for killing people 😌

spn s12e21 (2017) / the magicians s3e8 six short stories about magic (w. sera gamble, david reed - 2018)

i appreciated sort of her brief chase scene from her pov through her hearing loss. the magicians did something similar (article for details with showrunners) with marlee maitlan's role - but much, much longer. it was 9 minutes. (took a snippet with felicia day in it too, rip charlie)

DEAN Seven monster-related deaths. I mean, what, did all the things out there suddenly start working together? SAM Dean, monsters and demons don't team up. Seven Hunters are gone. We can't grab a signal from Mom's phone. Cass has Kelly Kline who knows where. Mick has slipped off the grid. Ketch is lying to us. I-I… I wanna punch something in the face.

kudos to padalecki because as always he can really bring those emotions and he seemed to really be hurting over eileen but it's bang boom all part of this bigger picture and oh they're all monster related deaths and hey let's clean house on any side characters we wanna off for the drama. her character deserved a better sendoff than this (or hey let her live), if they were gonna have her come back, in my ever so humble opinion.

TONI I have sources, Mary. Everywhere. After you died, your beloved John was a man slowly going mad, searching for revenge. What? Your boys didn't tell you? The drunken rages? The weeks of abandonment? Child abuse, really. It's no wonder they're damaged.

grain of salt obviously what with the brainwashing etc but canonically what's been established before was surely neglect at the least. hence why i can't let it go

CROWLEY Good afternoon. Dr. Hess. Stunningly beautiful as ever.

well. if nothing else, this is a slightly more seamless way of trying to retcon the bmol existing and operating offscreen for all these seasons prior, having crowley establish some background with the bad lady

DR. HESS Crowley, one more thing. CROWLEY What? DR. HESS Your relationship with the Winchesters. It's a bit cozy for my taste. I hope you don't expect me to spare your friends.

i do think that's what keeps crowley more interesting than he might be if he was just plain beholden to the winchesters (more like cas tends to be [caveat he's not also always beholden to them but when he's not he's usually making the Worst decisions]), he's out there still killing people, aiding the bad people in killing people we like and care about like eileen. but we can also pretty much count on him coming through to work things such that dean and sam will be okay in the end. he contains multitudes

CROWLEY So… Dagon dead. Kelly's now in the clutches of the Winchesters' love slave, Castiel, who's no doubt dragging her to a gruesome death.

lol

LUCIFER Mm. As opposed to the fun-packed death you have planned.

laughed again! these two, love em

ok let me guess brainwashed to kill sam and dean, is that on the menu?

thanks for the little tidbit of them having a po box in lebanon

good lord why are they killing time at the end of the season with this random drama moment between mr ketchup and torturer lady

MR. KETCH I don't know you, Mary. Not really. You certainly don't know me. You… wouldn't want to.

oh my god and the little kid music box spooky music starts playing in the background, mr ketchup is just a hurt little boy 😢 the snort i snorted!

real deal mary just tried to kill herself, pulled the trigger and only saved by ketch pulling it away to deflect the shot what the fuck. that is way too dark and serious for this show. that was awful. samantha smith is doing good with the scene and on her knees begging to be killed we get the mushy music.

how did her hair not move from upright to this position. now i'm just being nitpicky because i'm pissed off, but if we're plowing into the gritty dark realism of her torturing/brainwashing, her hair should be gross and acting like dirty sweaty hair.

so i'll rant about the music too then. so like, this scene on the setup / assassination trap thing dean and sam luring bmol to, it's way edgier and interesting and weirder than his score usually is. sometimes it's completely bland, or misses the tone, or is mega cliched, and then it'll be Good! for a brief moment and then the tone changes and the vibe is back to boring blah nothing or actively obnoxious. i feel vaguely bad about ranting about the score all the time, but i think it's honestly the biggest failing in the show over the entire run. i have plenty of issues with other things, but the music has consistently been subpar and pulled the quality of the show down with it, in my opinion. the foley though - i love it.

also mark pellegrino as lucifer, love. so good. so creepy! ugh. and i really don't want him having thrall over crowley, because he is so creepy. so i am getting concerned

well. not sure where this is going since crowley didn't do the dead-demon-zappy thing after the angel blade stabbing, even though lucifer just walked away like it was done

nice little exchange to highlight how they fight together with silently communication, and pretty cool action sequence. don't see them in these kind of shootouts often and they gave both Js some slick action hero moves

MR. KETCH Your bunker is an excellent fortress. An even better tomb. So we've rejiggered the locks, we've shut off the water, and once we leave, the pumps that bring in the air shall reverse. Your oxygen should be gone in two days, maybe three. You dying in here, it's almost poetic, hmm? Come along, Mary.

hokay. cliche villain killing them slowly enough to give them ample time to figure it out or have someone save them

LOL while talking to robomary we get mushy music but Creepy Version. discordant

ah, is crowley in the rat? is that why he didn't zap?

literally had the thought process of wait are we in one of those parody old spice commercials?? literally wheezing from laughing

he looks great but this choice was SO. HOKEY. (with music to match, you'll be shocked to hear me say) and the visuals look fake without looking like... really obviously fake? but it's also clearly fake? because the lighting is so mismatched and earth doesn't really look like That out of the box? lol

#supernatural #spnwatch #spn 12x21 #the magicians #six short stories about magic #marlee matlin #eileen leahy #spnwhinge #spn clip #spn mushy music #spn mushy music variation #spn musical score #brad buckner #eugenie ross leming #jay gruska

[ashtraythief]

I love when you talk about Sam and Dean! Your thoughts on them are so interesting, and you really get the characters. I haven’t watched the season post 11 because I couldn’t take all the manufactured drama between the two boys, so I’m guessing I need to pick it up? You talking about them being settled and domestic and choosing each other over and over again is SO sweet. I’ve always been curious to see how their dynamic would change in later seasons, but I was worried there would be more manufactured drama. Like the writers kept making them fight and it felt so forced (can’t even think of what season I’m talking about right now..). Does that stop? Do you even know what I’m talking about? I can’t take the manufactured drama to make a more interesting show, I just want those babies to be happy and loving and catch bad guys together

Oh, thank you nonnie! That’s so kind of you to say <3 I know I'm not usually part of the tumblr meta crowd, so this makes me go all mushy inside ;)

Yeah, I think I know what you mean. Seasons 6-11 have their good stuff, but the soulless split, the Amy thing, the Gadreel thing, the Amelia thing, the darkness thing, the MoC thing, there’s just lots of drama and conflict. That definitely dies down later. Which I guess makes things better, but I am personally not a big fan of the later seasons, despite brother domesticity. (For reference, I love seasons one to five, I do enjoy six and seven, I find the Amelia thing atrocious, but I like the back half of season eight. Nine and ten are ups and down and mostly wasted potential. Eleven is both better and worse. I think it has many good motw and some outstanding brother eps like Red Meat and Safe House, but I absolutely loathe that they brought Lucifer back for many reasons and I’m not a fan of how they did the Darkness. Season twelve could have been good, but too many things rubbed me the wrong way. I really dislike thirteen and fourteen. Fifteen is probably the worst, Carry On excluded, even though I think is isn’t a good episode as a whole, it just has outstanding scenes.) For your question of whether you should pick it up: there are people who enjoy the later seasons for precisely the brother harmony reasons. I’m not one of them. For me the bad outweighs the good and I only rewatch very few episodes. I’ll put the rest under the cut because it’s basically late season negativity though I will try to point out things that I think worked.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the domestic moments, I love SamandDean being a unit and together and killing bad guys, but the bad myth arcs, the inconsistent characters, the endless angel mess, the endless regurgitation of Lucifer and the frankly lazy writing and incompetent show running make most of it unwatchable for me. Initially, I quit the show halfway through season 12, because a lot of the motw eps were just not great (a lot of the lazy writing included dumbing down Sam and Dean for danger and peril, when you know they’ll survive anyway and you know they’re competent hunters, but the writers weren’t smart enough to pull off good suspenseful plots most of the time), and I found the return of Mary both utterly unnecessary and I also didn’t think her character was written well. I have very petty reasons for disliking some elements of the Men of Letters strongly, so yeah. And then I was staying with a friend when the wire fight finale aired and that sealed the deal for me for a while lol.

Eventually, when they announced the last season, I went back and forced myself through an entire rewatch and it was painful. I really don’t care at all about 13 and 14. I stopped giving any fucks about the angels after season 7 tbh. I really liked Cas and to some degree the angels until season 7, after that Cas’s characterization and powers were inconsistent and all over the place and no other angel stuck around long enough that you’d care about them and their power struggle (Hannah being the only exception). I know they needed to give J2 more time off and needed to give other characters more screen time, but that wasn’t it. I also didn’t care about the apocalypse hunters and the whole AU Michael thing. Never mind Lucifer. The addition of Jack could have been really good (though why they had to cast another white boy at that point in the show really is beyond me. No shade on Alex C, I think he did a decent job for the character and was downright delightful when possessed by a demon, but like, my dudes, at least try with the diversity when it comes to your most recurring regulars), and they actually could have used his struggle with his identity and his parentage and his relationship with Cas as a counterweight to Sam and Dean and give J2 time off. Instead the writers couldn’t decide whether Jack should be Cas or Sam and Dean’s foster son, and developed neither of these relationships as fully as they could have. There were great moments with all three of them and Jack, how their own history made them related to or raise the boy, but they couldn’t do it all in the time they had, so a more focused storytelling with Cas and Jack would have done wonders I think both for Cas as a character and a compelling side-plot to Sam and Dean’s adventures when J2 needed time off. Rowena and Charlie are bright spots in the later seasons, but Charlie was criminally killed off and Rowena could have gotten a little more screen time I think. 

What I like about the brothers and their conflict is that they both back each other’s plays, but also listen to each other. Their reunion after Dean’s Michael possession is beautiful, there are lovely brother bond moments (we see Poughkeepsie in action!), and there’s heart wrenching grief when Dean thinks Sam has died. Good stuff, really. There are occasionally decent motw eps, but overall to me 13 and 14 were a real chore, mostly because of the AU hunters I couldn’t really care about, but the show also didn’t make a good effort to make us care about them, and the whole Michael thing was just… like, Jensen tried, and later did a decent job, but also like…. why? Why the endless angel parade? There are good brother moments due to the whole Michael possession and there’s a mideason arc that has good moments and works, but again, I think there were better choices to move the plot forward than to recycle the angel idea over and over again. And of course Lucifer and Chuck and just… no. BuckLemming’s hard on for Mark P became increasingly unbearable and the return of Gabriel and the whole Princes of hell was also… idk. Cheap. Uninspired. Crowley’s reform of hell into a bureaucratic hellscape in season 6 was great, later on it became a boring corporate demon in suits kind of thing that lacked any kind of horror factor. I never was in the show for the horror aspect, but they watered down the concepts so much, took away any previous stakes and consequences that it all felt meaningless and inconsequential. Hell used to be scary. Going to hell used to be scary and this huge thing. Breaking out of hell used to be a huge thing that needed devil’s gates or heavenly armies. And later it’s just medieval-esque dungeons with stunt demons fifty to fifty-six standing around and everyone coming and going as they please. Hell turned into a joke, honestly and since it was seen so often in the later seasons it really grated on me.

Season 15 is an absolute dumpster fire with only very few good moments. Cannot recommend. Like they had one job of wrapping up the show, instead they managed to put out some of the most cringey visuals (ghosts running in daylight. Ghosts. Running. In Daylight. Running! In daylight!), ruin OG evil guys (see season one ghosts running in daylight), ruin canon in staggering uncaring ways, bring back other old characters with no real impact, have “fun episodes” that aren’t really funny. There are fun moments, like the fancy!chesters, and of course the three different AU glimpses with Samifer, BoyKing!Sam and demon!Dean, but you can just watch those snippets on youtube. And then they wrap up the big bad of the last few seasons without Sam and Dean actually doing much to contribute to that and only manage to go out on a high because covid impacted the filming of the last ep and Dabb’s kind of mediocre and weirdly paced script with an unfinished case that leaves more questions than closure is only saved by Jared and Jensen putting everything they had into the barn scene, the montages and the bridge scene, which are absolute shining beacons of two actors caring about their characters and saving the legacy of a show in the process. Like, no matter what happened post spn, they gave their all for Carry On, put so much thought in the dialogue, the costumes and the accessories, and they made it their own in a way that made it work. And I will be forever grateful for that.

I would apologize for this dump of negativity, but you asked 😅

So, I guess, if you want, you can do a selective rewatch and get the highlights and avoid the pitfalls? It’s what I do nowadays when I rewatch. I watch 1-5 mostly completely, and then every season, the number of eps I watch decreases. So I personally cannot recommend watching it all even though I know opinions differ wildly and you might miss out on cute brother moments if you skip some of the worse eps. I guess the development of the domesticity, of the security in each other is also something you miss out on if you only rewatch electively. So I guess if you can stomach the rest of it, it might be worth it. There are some people here on tumblr who draw out excellent meta of the later seasons and write excellent fic about it. I can’t remember specifics, but zmediaoutlet has really good thoughts on late season Sam and Dean. So if you want the brothers, try it, I think you’ll realize quickly if you can stomach the quality of the eps. Hope that helps 💜

#anon ask #spn thoughts #spn critical #i guess is the appropriate tag here

[transgodstiel]

girl i have not been able to stop thinking about an alternate season seven for like the last few weeks. season seven but cas becoming god has rippling effects on all the dimensions: heaven, hell, purgatory etc and its not juat the leviathans that get out. souls from heaven find themselves resurrected on earth. demons that have been in hell for thousands of years are unleashed, and the cage....well. all this to say that mary winchester finds herself on earth, alive, and her boys are unrecognisable. and john keeps visiting her in her dreams, asking her to say yes. just say yes.

#lucifer!mary in season seven is the ONLY thing i care about #i dont know what cas’s plot in this s7 would be but. god. i find this concept just Sickening!!!! #although im gonna say cas probably purposefully banishes himself to purgatory to make up for ‘When He Was Bad’ and dean jumps in after to #convince him to come back #and then meets benny....its all comin together.... #.c #good spn that lives in my head canon #.c meta

[katsidhe]

Ranking Every SPN Season Premiere

15) 11.01 Out of the Darkness, Into the Fire. For an otherwise strong season, s11 sure started and ended in D tier. Not only is there a baffling amount of screen time spent on Cas’s weird and uninteresting rage spell, Crowley’s sexcapades, and too many one-episode characters, but the whole thing is sewn together with uneven flashbacks. The core concept itself is off: Darkness-as-rage-zombie-infection feels totally out of place in the rest of the season, and any personal fallout from 10.23 is mostly brushed aside. The only thing I like about 11.01 is Sam’s determination to find a cure and save everyone, and the mention of the cage.

14) 10.01 Black. Just because I do quite like demon!Dean’s apathy doesn’t mean it’s gripping television: he’s much better in 10.02 and 10.03, and most of 10.01 is spent on Crowley’s overdramatic griping. Cole is objectively very silly, but, look, I’m only flesh: Sam bloodied and in a sling and tied to a chair is good content, and rescues this one from D tier. 

13) 15.01 Back and to the Future. Just like 11.01, 15.01 has to brush past Dean’s willingness to execute a family member in the previous episode, and it introduces a pretty weak zombies plot. However, it gets major points for Sam’s bullet wound visions, and is generally much better staged than 11.01.  

12) 6.01 Exile on Main St. A genuinely interesting episode for Dean--both his domestic montage and being faced with Samuel are fresh takes on his relationship with family. Soulless is great, but isn’t quite hitting his stride; 6.01 lays groundwork but hasn’t yet built into s6′s greatest strengths. 

11) 3.01 The Magnificent Seven. This one’s kinda campy, but there is some legitimately horrifying imagery, like the guy forced to drink drain cleaner. The deadly sins demons are underwhelming on the whole, but Ruby shows up in fine form, and Sam’s anger with Dean’s willingness to throw his life away establishes a great tone for s3. 

10) 8.01 We Need to Talk About Kevin. Kevin is badass, Amelia is amazingly, unapologetically polarizing, Dean is raw, and I don’t really care about Benny. Sam is in a healthier spot right here than we’ll see him for a long, long time, which tees up his anti-recovery arc quite nicely. 

9) 1.01 Pilot. It’s a solid introduction. Sam and Dean’s chemistry is potent and undeniable from the get-go. The way they work together so well, layered on top of so much conflict both spoken and unspoken, the things they want and the things they deny wanting--their first time interacting as adults out from under their father’s influence. It’s good!

8) 12.01 Keep Calm and Carry On. Look, I pretend to have complex opinions, but actually I am very, very simple: I just want to watch Sam tied to a chair and tortured. This is the best BMoL episode of the season by a long shot. On top of that, Mary’s introduction forces the uncomfortable and fascinating realization that she’s not going to fit quietly into Dean’s expectations. That final scene of Sam hurt and imprisoned without hope is gorgeous and memorable. 12.01 promised a lot for s12, and it’s a shame that most of it didn’t get followthrough.

7) 14.01 Stranger in a Strange Land. These next four are difficult to arrange, because they’re all so different. This episode has pretty much the only even vaguely interesting material AU!Michael gets all season. Far more importantly, Sam has the weight of the world on his shoulders, and it’s a great look. He has a beard, and he’s looking after Nick (!!), and he’s leading a group of hunters, and he declares that Hell itself better stand the fuck down. Sam for King of Hell 2k18. Iconic. 

6) 2.01 In My Time of Dying.  John’s deal, and his directive for Dean to save Sam or kill him, is a major turning point that colors everything for years. The human intimacy of the small-scale family drama, unfolding with no magic besides a terrible soul deal to rely upon, feels personal and real. Plus, Sam and Dean communicate via ouija board.

5) 5.01 Sympathy for the Devil. Meg and Zachariah are both in fine form. The apocalyptic set pieces are teed up and ready to be set loose. Sam jumps on the bandwagon of his own castigation, and it aches. Lucifer’s introduction is quiet, and chilling, and note-perfect.

4) 13.01 Lost and Found. It’s hard to significantly change the landscape of a 13-year-old show, and for the better, but 13.01 does just that. Jack is a breath of fresh air. His dynamics with Sam and Dean are complex and heartbreaking--he asks after his father, Sam locks himself in a cell with him. Dean’s blank absolutism mixes uneasily with Sam’s relentless determination and Jack’s innocence. It’s a wonderful new twist on an old formula.

3) 4.01 Lazarus Rising. Dean crawls out of his own grave, Sam’s with Ruby, Cas blows out windows and burns out eyes. 4.01 throws the mythological doors wide open with the introduction of angels, and ratchets the season up to an apocalyptic scale: it’s awesome. 

2) 9.01 I Think I’m Gonna Like It Here. I am always and forever intrigued by Sam’s Mind Forests. Dean does something unforgivably horrible to Sam, and in doing so, opens the door to a fascinating arc, wherein his choices here and his treatment of Sam are deconstructed and then reconstructed and then deconstructed again. I’ll never get tired of season 9, by which I mean I’ll never get tired of the fallout from the BOLD choice that 9.01 made to put this conflict front and center. 

1) 7.01 Meet the New Boss. If you thought I wasn’t going to put Hallucifer first, you must be extremely new here. Sam’s psychological undoing is chilling and deeply claustrophobic and possibly my favorite thing the show has ever done. On top of that, we have Godstiel’s terrifying purges, Sam and Dean summoning Death in someone’s living room, and even a taste of cosmic horror in LeviaCas. I would tell you how many times I’ve watched 7.01-7.02, but I’ve wholly lost count. 

#1.01 #2.01 #3.01 #4.01 #5.01 #6.01 #7.01 #8.01 #9.01 #10.01 #11.01 #12.01 #13.01 #14.01 #15.01 #ranking

[drop-of-infinity]

Destiel fic time, this part canon compliant with season 12. As always, anything is quotation marks is directly from the show, and any chapter can be read alone.

Chapter one

Chapter two

Chapter three

Chapter four

Chapter five

Chapter six

Chapter seven

Chapter eight

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Chapter 9: season 12

Keep Calm and Carry On

{“Whoa whoa whoa! It’s okay, it’s okay. He’s a friend.” On some level Dean knew that Mary’s gun couldn’t actually hurt Cas, but he still panicked at the sight of it pointed at the angel’s chest. Besides, he didn’t want Mary and Cas’s first meeting to involve anyone getting shot. Cas stared at him in shock, then immediately wrapped his arms around him. Dean sunk into Cas. I’m home, he thought.

{“Dean!” Cas felt like his chest was going to explode. He’s alive, he’s alive, he’s alive. He latched onto the hunter, desperately needing the contact, and almost cried when he felt Dean’s arms lift up to hug him back. This is real. He’s alive. When they separated, Cas found himself breathless. Odd, as I don’t technically need to breathe, his slightly scrambled brain thought distantly. He looked up at Dean who was smiling softly, and his heart clenched. I love you.

{“Cas Cas Cas! Don’t hurt him. Not yet.” Cas allowed Dean to hold him back. He was an angel, Dean wouldn’t actually be able to stop him from doing anything, but Cas had enough faith in him to allow himself to be manhandled. He still glanced up at Dean ruefully, although the effect was slightly ruined by the way he’d already melted under his hands.

The Foundry

{“Morning sunshine.” Sam gave Dean a weird look, and he realized he’d said that out loud. It was getting steadily harder to keep his thoughts under lock and key around Cas. Dean was used to hiding feelings, but four years was a long time to know you were in love with someone and never say anything. He took a deep breath and pressed everything down again.

First Blood

{“They’ve only been gone-“

“Six weeks two days and ten hours.” Cas’s chest hurt. He hadn’t stopped beating himself up for letting them go, even though Dean had told him to. Dean. Where was he now? Was he ok? Cas knew that the longing rolling off himself must be palpable but he didn’t care at this point. He just wanted Dean back.

{“Cas.” “Dean?” “Hey buddy, long time.” “What-what happened, wh-where are you?” Cas almost collapsed on the spot. His heart was trying to beat out of his chest and his knees were weak with relief. How many times had they almost lost each other by now? It didn’t matter, because every time it was the same bone crushing relief, the same lung deflating he’s okay he’s okay he’s okay. Cas grabbed the edge of a chair to steady himself, and took a deep breath for the first time in weeks.

{“Hey buddy.” Cas melted into Dean’s arms, barely holding back a whimper. The hug was over far too soon for his aching skin, and he turned his body towards Dean as he walked away, like a flower trying to catch the sun.

{As they sat in the back of the car, Dean considered what he had done and what he was about to do. There was no way he was letting Billie reap Sam or their mom. He was about to die. It was why he was sitting in the back of the car with Cas. He just wanted to be with him for a minute. Cas’s hand rested on the seat between them. Dean didn’t grab it, because he was, at heart, a coward, but he wasn’t sure he’d ever wanted anything so badly. He could practically see the longing radiating off himself in waves.

Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets

{“Why do you let him talk to you like that?” Dean’s blood was boiling. This dickhead had no idea what Cas could do, what he had done. He might not command celestial armies anymore, but the dude was still amazing. It was more than just righteous anger though. Cas had rebelled against heaven for them. For Dean, or so he said. The way Ishim was talking to Cas, everything he said about how far Cas had fallen... it was all on Dean. He knew Cas would resent him for saying it though, so he didn’t.

{“I’m gonna cure you of your human weakness the same way I cured my own. By cutting it out.” Cas lay bleeding on the floor, unable to do anything, but he knew Ishim was wrong. Ishim’s love for Lily had turned him dark and twisted because she didn’t love him back. Cas knew Ishim could feel Cas’s longing, and saw a similar situation to himself and Lily with Cas and Dean, but he hadn’t accounted for one thing. Cas was at peace with it. He was prepared to always love Dean and never get an answer, and that wasn’t a weakness. It was what had made him strong enough to stop the apocalypse, to break free of Naomi’s control, to save the world from Amara. It was his greatest strength.

Stuck In The Middle (With You)

{“I think I’m dying.”

“No.” Dean could feel the panic rising into his throat, and he forced it down. Cas needed him right now, he didn’t have time for this. I can’t lose him he thought desperately. They had to do something. A distant part of his mind reminded him of something someone had told him once. “I watched the man I loved die. There’s no normal after that.” Dean steeled himself. He was NOT about to watch the man he loved die because they were going to fix Cas. They had to.

{“I love you. I love all of you.” Cas was dying, and he needed them to know. He needed Dean to know. He had imagined saying it a million times, and there had been dozens where it was on the tip of his tongue, but somehow he hadn’t pictured this. Dying in a barn, stabbed by a prince of hell. In some ways, Cas thought it was fitting. Dean met him in a barn after all. The beginning of the end. It didn’t matter now. He had said it. I love you. Yet somehow, Cas couldn’t even meet Dean’s eyes. He had a feeling the other man hadn’t gotten the real meaning behind his words. Not that it mattered. This was the end.

{Miraculously, Cas didn’t die. As Sam and Dean pulled him to his feet, all of his nerves were focused on the place where Dean’s hand held his. As the hunter let go, Cas chased his touch unconsciously, and felt Dean’s hand pivot back towards his and brush his skin again. His heart clenched painfully.

The Future

{“You know what, whatever. Welcome back.” Dean knew he wasn’t being fair, and he knew he was just making things worse, but he couldn’t stop. He was just so angry. He’d been worried sick about Cas and turns out... turns out the angel had just been ignoring him. It hurt like hell. He wanted... well that was the problem wasn’t it? He wanted. Dean rubbed his face and sighed. Just because you’re in love with the guy doesn’t mean you get to be an asshole, he told himself firmly. You wanted him back and now he’s back. Don’t be a dick.

{“It’s a gift. You keep those.” It was an olive branch, and Cas knew it. He was strangely relieved to be allowed to keep the mixtape. He remembered Dean giving it to him, and he remembered listening to it anytime he was driving alone. The music was... enjoyable. Cas found he liked the beats and the feel of it, but mostly he liked that Dean had given it to him. He was pleased to be allowed to keep it. Cas felt a surge of guilt about what he was about to do, but it had to be done. For the greater good, he told himself. He remembered repeating the same thing when he was working with Crowley all those years ago, and felt slightly sick. This time is different, he thought firmly. I’m not letting Dean do this. This... this is on me.

{“W-we?” “Yes dumbass, we.” Dean’s heart broke a little at the uncertainty in Cas’s voice. Sometimes the angel seemed seconds away from breaking, and Dean just wanted to grab him and hold him together. He pushed that feeling down, along with the way his chest ached with fondness at seeing Cas silhouetted in his doorway.

{“What the hell were you thinking?”

Dean shoved him up against the hotel wall as soon as he walked in, his arm warm against Cas’s chest. He hoped Dean couldn’t feel how fast his heart was beating through the trenchcoat. Cas should really not be staring at Dean’s lips right now, but Cas has missed him so much and he wants so desperately. Sam called Dean over before Cas could do something he would regret. He ran a hand over his chest, aching and missing Dean’s angry warmth.

{“You’re hurt.” Cas reached out and touched Dean’s hand lightly, then slid up and wrapped his hand around Dean’s injured arm. It was not necessary to touch people to heal them, which Cas was hoping Dean hadn’t figured out yet. He drew his hand away slowly, and Dean looked down at his healed arm as though in awe. Cas couldn’t imagine why. He’d healed Dean countless times since they’d met.

All Along The Watchtower

{“Here Dean. Let me.” Cas touched two fingers to Dean’s head gently, and his leg healed at once. The cut on his cheek also stitched itself up. Dean felt his heart speed up a little as Cas drew his hand away, and Dean looked down, flustered. He sighed inwardly. He was a grown man, not a teenager with a crush. He didn’t get fucking butterflies. Except, apparently, he did.

{“No!” As Sam ran inside to find Jack and Kelly, Dean sank to his knees, overcome with grief. Their mom was in the other world with Lucifer, and Cas... Dean knelt next to the angel, too stunned to do anything. The outline of Cas’s wings stretched across the ground beside them, and Dean lowered his head. He felt hollow. He stood slowly, looking up at the sky. Cas had always loved the stars. Dean wanted to scream, to find God and rip him limb from limb, to do something other than sit here and drown in his sorrow, but he couldn’t. Dean looked down at Cas again. The angel’s eyes were closed. He was gone.

{Cas had felt the life drain out of him, felt his spirit fall into the earth and then sink beyond it. Now he felt nothing at all.

{Dean wished he could fly into the stars, find Chuck and make him bring Cas back. He couldn’t. He couldn’t do anything at all.

#supernatural #destiel #spn #deancas #castiel #supernatural thoughts #spn thoughts #spn season 12 #supernatural season 12 #lily sunder has some regrets #destiel fanfiction #destiel fanfic #destiel fic #deancas fanfiction #deancas fanfic #deancas fic

[destieltropecollection]

Destiel Trope Collection 2019 Day 15: Fallen!Cas

The Art of Sleep | @wingsdestiel Rating: Teen & Up Word Count: 1631 Main Tags and Warnings: Hurt/Comfort, Human Castiel, Dreams and Nightmares, Sharing a Bed, Cuddling & Snuggling, Fluff Summary: Castiel has trouble adjusting to being human, and has a particularly hard time sleeping. Dean helps him with his sleep issues, and if he thinks he's being subtle, he's not.

A Love of All Things That Grow | @rustling-pages Rating: General Word Count: 4909 Main Tags and Warnings: Miscommunication Summary: What Castiel does, after over a year of drama that didn’t give him time to get used to being human, is start a garden.

A New Beginning | @breathingdestiel Rating: Teen & Up Word Count: 1452 Main Tags and Warnings: s14 canon divergent, angst with a happy ending Summary: After they admit their feelings and share a passionate night together, Dean is heartbroken to find that Cas has left in the middle of the night.

a walk in the park | @breathingdestiel Rating: Teen & Up Word Count: 1236 Main Tags and Warnings: s12 canon divergent, fluff Summary: Dean and Cas go on a walk. It's a date, but Dean doesn't know it yet.

If Tomorrow Never Comes | @jupiterjames Rating: Explicit Word Count: 97806 Main Tags and Warnings: fallen Castiel, paramedic Dean, graphic depictions of violence, soul bond, hurt/comfort Summary: Doctor Sam Winchester and paramedic Dean Winchester work at one of the USA's most prestigious hospitals for supernatural beings and victims of supernatural occurrences. During an especially busy shift on a full moon night, Dean and his partner, Benny, respond to a dispatch for an injured celestial being. There they meet Castiel, an angel with a broken wing and a story he's not telling anyone about. After all, governmental agreements between Earth and Heaven have kept uninvited angels off of Earth for more than a century. But Castiel has willingly Fallen to Earth in order to stop a Disaster of divine proportions before it happens. And to do that, he needs the help and supernatural connections that the Winchester brothers possess.

Broken Wings | @pherryt Rating: General Word Count: 1627 Main Tags and Warnings: Hurt/Comfort, Canon Divergent, Season 9 divergent, human!Cas, fallen!cas, Hurt!Cas, dean asks him to stay Summary: Sam succeeded - Crowley's cured and the Gates of Hell are closed and somehow he's still alive. It should be cause to celebrate, but all Dean can think of is getting back to the bunker as fast as he can. He's gotta find out if Cas is okay.

I Found | @cr-noble-writes Rating: No Rating Word Count: 1645 Main Tags and Warnings: fluff, angst, song fic Summary: Dean finds himself missing Castiel, and eventually comes to terms with his feelings for Cas only to find him again and wonder if he feels the same.

Worth the Fall | @DesiraeLovesDestiel Rating: Explicit Word Count: 25138 Main Tags and Warnings: Teacher Dean/Fallen Angel Cas, True love, smut, fluff, humor Summary: The angel Castiel was stationed on Earth to observe, not interact. When he takes it upon himself to intervene in an accident that would have claimed the life of Kindergarten teacher, Dean Winchester, there were consequences. Stripped of most of his powers, Castiel is forced to live as a mortal for one year. But after getting to know the man who led to his fall from grace, the angel soon discovers that he has a choice to make. Return to his post when his punishment is over and never see Dean again, or give up his near immortality to take a chance at a life on Earth with the human he has come to love.

Making love out of nothing at all | @marian-elisa Rating: Teen & Up Word Count: 12758 Main Tags and Warnings: Canon divergence, human Castiel, friends to lovers, love confessions, slow burn Summary: A graceless Castiel realized he was in love with Dean. After asking Sam for advice, he decided to tell Dean the truth. From there, things didn't turn out as he would've wanted them to.

A Case of The Grumps | @lemonsorbae Rating: General Word Count: 1073 Main Tags and Warnings: Fluff, Canon Universe Summary: The angel is grumpy.

Home is With You | @thursdays-fallen-angel Rating: Teen & Up Word Count: 6911 Main Tags and Warnings: Fallen!Cas, Alpha!Cas, Omega!Dean Summary: News of Heaven's forced exodus reaches them, but for the most part, it doesn't do more than graze them. They stay in the bunker, and as long as they're there, rumors of angry angels remain just that-rumors. Inside the safety of their bubble, Sam slowly begins to heal, and as Dean fusses over him and nurses him back to health, life returns to normal. An altered sort of normal, sure, but normal nonetheless. And thankfully, Dean keeps busy enough with his brother that most of his other stresses can remain safely on the back-burner. Well. All stresses except for the biggest one.

Endings Are Easy | @mittensmorgul Rating: Teen & Up Word Count: 1569 Main Tags and Warnings: Episode: s14e10 Nihilism, Coda, Future Fic, Happy Ending, Everything is Beautiful and Nothing Hurts Summary: They all finally get a happy ending.

His Leather Jacket | @babybluecas Rating: Explicit Word Count: 10549 Main Tags and Warnings: canon divergent, bittersweet ending, first kiss, first time, fallen!cas, biker!cas Summary: Kicked out of the Bunker, Cas left to live his human life on his own. A few weeks later, he and Dean meet again to solve a case together and Dean can barely believe his eyes. Cas in a black, leather jacket, riding a motorcycle - that's a thing Dean's never expected to see, but he's surely not gonna complain.

There's a rule | @flurryflair Rating: Explicit Word Count: 15209 Main Tags and Warnings: Case fic, Explicit sexual content, Alternate Canon, Human Castiel, Road trip, Angst and feelings, Introspection, Denial of feelings, Mild gore, Canon typical violence, Past Dean Winchester/Lisa Braeden Summary: "He can see the sunburn blooming on Cas’s nose, the messy stubble covering his cheeks, the wet dip right above his lips, his eyes, blue and clear and staring at Dean with a longing that feels like it’s primal and raw and everlasting. And Dean wants to have him, wants to keep this, all of it, but he can’t say it. He doesn’t know how to love him in daylight, doesn’t know how to love him honest." ---- Sequel to "There's a nail", where they take the road trip and try to figure it out.

A Few of My Favorite Things | @zenmuppet Rating: Mature Word Count: 1764 Main Tags and Warnings: established relationship, blowjobs, smut, fluff Summary: Castiel has been human for seven months now, and he has found it increasingly annoying. The endless “maintenance” his body requires is his primary complaint, but he also resents the tedium of being polite, the physical weakness of the human body, and the extreme limitations of his five senses. There are a few tangible things, however, that Cas has found make his humanity bearable. These things make him happy, and he will indulge in them at every opportunity. These things are, in no particular order, coffee, cheeseburgers, driving a car, hot showers, blowjobs, kittens, and day spas.

Just a Sniffle | @almaasi Rating: General Word Count: 2027 Main Tags and Warnings: Canon Universe, Fluff, Schmoop, Hurt/Comfort, Romance, Warm and Fuzzy Feelings, Sick Castiel, Human Castiel, Affectionate Dean, Foot Massage, Light Petting, Sharing a Bed, Castiel and Dean Watch Television, Dean Watches Castiel Sleep, Sam Knows Summary: Cas is feeling under the weather. Dean skips a hunt to offer some gentle care – which apparently includes foot rubs.

Hold Your Breath | @anupalya Rating: Teen & Up Word Count: 2462 Main Tags and Warnings: POV Castiel, Human Castiel, Domestic Fluff, First Kiss, Light Angst, Father Figures Summary: Castiel has the hiccups.

indisputably human | d_e_marcus (AO3) Rating: Mature Word Count: 5659 Main Tags and Warnings: Fallen Angel Castiel; Sad Castiel; Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence; Emotional Hurt/Comfort; Castiel Learns to be Human; Depression; References to Depression; Anxiety; Happy Ending Summary: When Castiel’s grace was stripped away, leaving him shockingly, indisputably human, the overwhelming number of sensations that flooded his body brought him to his knees. Or, the one where Castiel loses his grace, becomes human and is Bad at Feelings.™

I've Got The Scars From Tomorrow | @babybluecas Rating: Teen & Up Word Count: 3404 Main Tags and Warnings: canon divergent, fallen!cas, first kiss, fluff and angst Summary: A slight change in Cas’s appearance triggers Dean’s memories of his short trip to the year 2014. Luckily, it’s nothing that can’t be dealt with, with a right amount of shaving cream and a razor. Cas is stubborn, Dean has a story to tell and they both learn something important.

Fall & Rise (WIP) | @blazeeblake Rating: Mature Word Count: 67714 Main Tags and Warnings: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Alternate Canon, Fallen Castiel, Dark Castiel, Mary Lives, John Winchester's A+ Parenting, Canonical Character Death, Minor Character Death, Slow Burn, Angst with a Happy Ending Summary: During the war in Heaven, Castiel falls to earth and ultimately joins Lucifer as a Prince of Hell. Centuries later, he finds himself reluctantly ruling Hell in Lucifer’s stead, embittered by both his circumstances and the decisions that brought him there. But when a plan to to reignite the war surfaces, Castiel is launched into a battle of a different kind, one that pits him against those he once commanded and has him protecting the very beings whose existence led to his exile. On the night of November 2nd, 1983, Castiel’s interference in Hell’s plan brings him in contact with Winchester family, and from that day forward, as they struggle through the repercussions of circumstances that irrevocably change and bind them, they are each of them forced to reexamine their understanding of their place in the world, what they are willing to fight for, and who they truly are.

Your Story Isn't Over Yet | jscribbles (AO3) Rating: Mature Word Count: 75443 Main Tags and Warnings: sam's POV, sex swap, temporary female Cas, pregnant cas, grace baby, mentions of losing a baby, pregnancy, morning sickness, temporary character death, canon divergent, angst, grief, human Cas Summary: One morning, Castiel wakes up suddenly very lady-shaped, and Team Free Will discover that a nephilim grows inside him. Sam has no idea how this could have happened considering Cas was supposed to be human, and Dean seems uninterested in finding out how or why their friend is pregnant and female - but he seems goddamn excited. Castiel retreats into himself, seemingly more depressed than usual. Sam is determined to get to the bottom of this mystery, though the others seem reluctant to discover the origin of the nephilim. Could the answer be right under his nose?

#destiel #writersofdestiel #destielfanficnet #deancasfanficnet #destiel fanfic #tropes #destiel trope collection #fallen!cas #fallen cas

[thenightling]

All Volumes of The Sandman placed in order of least favorite to favorite

First here is the order in which The Sandman should be read :

1. The Sandman: Preludes and Nocturnes 2. The Sandman: The Doll’s House 3. The Sandman: Dream Country 4. The Sandman: Season of Mists 5. The Sandman: A Game of You 6. The Sandman: Fables and Reflections 7. The Sandman: Brief Lives 8. The Sandman: The Worlds’ End 9. The Sandman: The Kindly Ones 10. The Sandman: The Wake The Sandman: Dream Hunters The Sandman: Endless Nights The Sandman: Overture (a very beautiful prequel)

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And now the order of least favorite to favorite.

Warning: This post contains some spoilers.

14.  The Kindly Ones.

I won’t sugar coat it.  I’m not really a big fan of The Kindly Ones.  I don’t care for the stylized art or the plot that much.  Though I love The Sandman this is definitely not a volume I would consider a favorite.  Yes, The Kindly Ones has its fans.  It has a few good moments, I particularly liked how Matthew was portrayed in it.  All of The Sandman is good in its own way.  But The Kindly Ones is just not a favorite for me. 

 13.   The Wake. 

I have to look at this as someone who got into The Sandman late.  I do like The Wake but I think if I read a six month (or longer) story arc of characters grieving another character, teenage me (I was fourteen in 1996) would probably have gotten frustrated and depressed.  

I love the art style.  I believe I read somewhere that (at the time) The Sandman: The Wake was the only graphic novel drawn entirely in colored pencil.  The artwork is beautiful.  

I think I might have enjoyed The Kindly Ones more if it had been drawn in the style of The Wake.    

As with all of The Sandman there are a few shining moments. I do like the issue dealing with Hob’s Dream (issue 73).   And I liked seeing Nada’s reincarnated toddler self, and Orpheus, whole, and at peace in Ellysium (Greek Heaven).  

12.   Endless Nights.   

Endless Nights is a collection of seven stories, each focusing on a different member of The Endless family.  

 Endless Nights has a sad but well-written story about Morpheus and Killala of The Glow, one of the first to harness the green light that would later be the catalyst for The Green Lantern corp.  I wonder if things would have played out differently if Morpheus had just been more up front and honest with Killala from the start.     

11.    The World’s End.

The World’s End features a strange interdenominational inn that transcends time and space and serves as a refuge for the displaced during ... er... Let’s just call them what DC comics calls them. “Crisis.” 

This is a collection of short stories from characters who have all been touched by Dream and his world in some way.   My favorites include Cluracan’s story and Hob’s Leviathan.    

There’s also some heavy foreshadowing for The Kindly Ones.  

10.   The Dream Hunters (Graphic novel version). 

  The Dream Hunters is a stand alone story set in Ancient Japan and works as a bitter-sweet fable.

9.     The Dream Hunters (novella version.) 

 I like the novella version of The Dream Hunters better than the graphic novel version because the artwork is just so gorgeous.  

8.  Fables and reflections.

Here is another collection of short stories all tied into The Sandman. Most of them can be read on their own.

7.   Dream Country.   

Here’s another set of The Sandman short stories that can be treated as stand alone one-shot stories.   My favorites of these is A Midsummer Night’s Dream, which is a brilliant and off-beat Shakespere story in which Shakespeare is made to perform a Midsummer Nights Dream for the real Seelie Court.

I also liked Calliope because we get to see Morpheus as a sort of avenging angel type.  

I happened to be reading A Dream of Cats for the first time on the very day I adopted Loki and Vlad (two of my three cats).   This was not planned out, just a strange coincidence.   

6.  A Game of you.

This is probably the most misunderstood volume of The Sandman.  Though Neil Gaiman based it on the personal experiences of a real life trans friend of his, whom consulted with him through the writing of it, many modern readers (mostly thanks to a very misleading Mary Sue article) have called this volume transphobic.   

In actuality for 1992 this was an extremely progressive depiction of a transwoman and one of the first (if not first) trans women of DC comics.   

Some of the complaints are because Wanda dies (many characters in The Sandman die, including the main protagonist...) while others think that the story claims transwomen cannot use feminine magick.  This is not true.  That was a claim made by a very dark witch, Thessaly AKA Larissa, a character who later betrays the series’ over-all protagonist.   She probably should NOT be trusted.

The scene showing Wanda’s soul pretty much confirms how wrong Thessaly was. 

The story deals with Barbie on a Jim Henson’s Labyrinth-esque adventure in her own personal dream world, and her friends who come to her rescue.  

5.   Brief Lives.

Brief lives is the story that tells us what happened with Destruction of the Endless.  It is beautifully drawn.  And this is where Song of Orpheus finally comes to its bitter-sweet conclusion as Morpheus enables his poor son to find peace at last. 

4.  The Doll’s House.

The Doll’s House gives us the story of Rose Walker- a person who is also a “Dream Vortex” (A person whose mind has the potential to cause dreams and reality to collapse into each other and destroy both) and how dangerous that can be.   We are also introduced to The Corinthian, a Nightmare who could give Freddy Krueger a run for his money. 

3.  Season of Mists.

The Sandman: Season of Mists is a storyline that some Lucifer show fans might recongize.  The Devil decides to quit.   There’s a lot more to it than that but Lucifer quitting ruling Hell is the catalyst for most of it.   

After finally (after ten-thousand-years!) realizing he was wrong in leaving Nada in Hell, Morpheus resolves to rescue her, at risk to himself.  However once he gets there he finds Lucifer is shutting the place down.  In spite, Lucifer leaves Morpheus the key to Hell.   Suddenly The Dream Lord has to deal with all the entities that might want that “Prime psychic real estate.”  

2.   Overture 

The Sandman: Overture and The Sandman: Preludes and Nocturnes are both my favorite volumes of The Sandman.  I tend to alternate between which one is number 1 based on my mood.

In The Sandman: Overture Morpheus discovers that The Universe is ending and “It’s all his fault” for refusing to put out a star back when he was reeling at the destruction of a world because he had not wanted to kill a Dream Vortex (a person whose mind has the power to merge dreams and reality).    

Now he’s off on a quest with a cat (whom he believes is another incarnation of himself).  He adopts an orphaned child, and sets out to save the universe.   

This is probably the most gorgeously drawn of all of The Sandman. The print is a little difficult for me to read (Impossible for me to read in physical format) but I can make the digital version large and enjoy the story and all the lovely detail in the artwork.  

1.  Preludes and Nocturnes

This is the one that starts it all.   An order of early twentieth century occultists summon and trap The Lord of Dreams by accident when they meant to capture Death.  Though they realize their mistake relatively quickly they decide to keep him prisoner anyway.  After seventy-two-years of captivity Morpheus finally escapes and seeks out his lost property.   

This is the one that roped me and made me a fast-fan to The Sandman.

#The Sandman #Neil Gaiman's The Sandman #Neil Gaiman

[supernatural-rewatch-3]

Unfinished Business

So...after hearing about Loki and even Fenris so much in this series, the two finally make an appearance. Bess’ step mother and cousins all belonged to a cult of werewolves that worshiped Fenris, so I was curious if he would ever appear back then.

So here’s the thing. Gabriel was introduced killing people for jokes. He dropped a college professor out a window because he was attracted to his students. He fed a college professor to an alligator in a sewer. Like he killed people who mildly annoyed him! What were Sam and Dean expecting for him to do against people that genuinely hurt him? That he has a real grievance against? Of course he’s going on a revenge quest!

So Dean is against it. The thing about Dean was Dean wasn’t big on revenge in the first part of the series. He was actually the one saying he hopes their family never gets revenge because the rate they were going John and Sam were going to die for it. There are two real times I can think of of Dean going on a revenge quest. The first was for Bobby, and Bobby was ironically the one to talk Dean out of that. Dean had promised him to kill Dick, not out of revenge, but because it was his job. The other was when Dean was lost to the Mark of Cain and wasn’t himself. He stormed the Stine Family compound and murdered everyone for Charlie. In fact the whole murder quest was to show us just how far off the reservation Dean had gone. Technically I guess you can go on a third where Dean wanted to kill Jack over Cas but he had already let go of that BEFORE Cas returned. Dean had learned just how much revenge can corrupt people and is usually one of the first ones to try and convince people to let it go.

There’s another piece to it with Dean though. He wants to rescue Mary and Jack, wants to stop Michael and he knows they are running low on time. He knows they really don’t have time for side quests right now, but in the end not only does he recognize Gabriel’s right for this fight but he keeps Sam from interfering and gives Loki the weapon he needs to finish it.

Sam, usually the more empathetic one, had also had his own experiences with revenge, but he...like he doens’t try to talk people out of it, ironic since his own search for revenge nearly killed him and those around him. In fact he helps them get it...some of the time. If he thinks it will help them. Like what he did with Eileen and now Gabriel. If he doens’t think it will help them he tries to convince them other wise.

I can also see part of Dean’s problem here. Usually for revenge quests....it’s not so methodically planned out. Like Gabriel has a freaking hit list for crying out loud! But Sam and Dean agree to help him because they need Gabriel to help them.

So after Loki and his kids are dead, we have Cas, Gabriel, and Rowena all settling down in the bunker and Sam confronts Dean about how Dean keeps going off to do things alone. Dean admits that it is because of the last time there was a fight between Lucifer and Michael. He says that last time Sam died and he won’t let that happen again. May characters have noted Dean’s need to protect Sam. Lucifer said once that Sam can’t ‘lose Dean again and Dean can’t lose you’. There was a divide there. Sam’s survival wasn’t as....dependent? on Dean’s like Dean was on Sam. Sam could go off and live somewhere without Dean. When he thought Dean was dead after season seven he was upset yes, but he tried to move on with his life. Dean CAN’T live without Sam. Even when he thought Sam was in Hell, Dean had already told himself it was a temporary thing and he was researching everything he could to find a way to save Sam. From season one Dean has shown that he doens’t really care about his own life, in the regard he had already pretty much accepted his death, an he will NOT let anything happen to Sam. Dean’s whole life pretty much revolved around protecting Sam.

Sam however is a grown man now, and not only can he protect himself he can protect Dean. Sam tells him that they will go save everyone together and if something happens they will deal with it together, and in the event of their death, they will do that together too. Judging from the last time Dean thought Sam was dead and his response was to commit suicide, I easily believe that. And that isnt’ a good thing.

Meanwhile Jack is on a winning high. He is fighting battle after battle and he is winning, giving him confidence. Jack isn’t even a year old, he doens’t have experience. Mary tries to caution him about being too confident, about thinking that he will win every battle. The last time Jack was over confident in his abilities he accidentally killed someone. This time...it ends about as bad as last. He thinks he’s got it, leads them all right into a trap and all the people who were trusting him except Mary ended up dead. Michael is trying to break him and what better way then to show him that he isn’t as strong or skilled as he thought. Fortunately, Mary is there.

And Alternate Kevin Tran...well Michael really messed with him didn’t he. Telling him that if he kills himself to take down as many of the resistance as possible and he will let him see his mom again. Like the battle that started the war was eight years ago, meaning around 2010... so Kevin had a life and all of a sudden one day war starts going off and he is taken away by angels saying he is chosen by God and finds Michael there. He served Michael for eight years, and it ended badly.

On an unrelated note....poor Balthazar. Can’t catch a break in any universe!

#unfinished business #supernatural #spn 13x20 #dean winchester #sam winchester #gabriel #loki #mary winchester #Jack Kline #alternate kevin tran

[tippitv]

Supernatural Recap: 14:01 “Stranger in a Strange Land”

The road so far... is thirteen years long. Thirteen years. If this show were a person, they would be dealing with acne and/or getting their period. We're on the fourth American presidential term since this show started. My dog Henry looked like this

And now he looks like this:

But back to the show's rock-n-roll montage to catch us up for this season. 

There was a nephilim boy named Jack, an alternate dimension accessible by an episiotomy in spacetime where bad angels ruled and dead characters were still alive, and a weird fight between Dean Winchester (with archangel Michael stuffed up in him like a heavenly turducken) and Lucifer that ended up looking like the video for Total Eclipse of the Heart.

At the end of it, Michael absconded with Dean's hot bod and made him wear a silly cap and break the fourth wall.

As the episode starts, Sam's full beard lets us know that some time has passed since the finale. He's driving through slick streets because it's always raining in the lush coastal rain forest of Kansas. .

But then we cut to some other bearded guy, asleep in a room somewhere that looks like a room they've used on this show a lot, but this time with a weirdly loud background soundtrack of ocean waves and seagulls. The guy gets up, puts his prayer mat down on the floor, and begins praying in what the CC tells me is Arabic.

He looks up to see Michael (in Dean) sitting there in his little cap. "Hello, Jamil," Michael says. Jamil looks surprised, as one should.

Michael quotes from what Google tells me is verse 2:98 of the Holy Quran in order to introduce himself: "Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers Gabriel and Michael..." He still makes Jamil go through a guessing game. God? No. Gabriel? No. One of these guys in Newsies?

Also no. He says he's there to ask Jamil the same question he's spent weeks asking people all over the world. "Do you want your newspaper on your porch or in your mailbox?"

"What do you want exactly?" Michael asks him. Jamil says he wants peace and love. Michael says "you never would have ran" from Syria if that were true. Okay first of all, that's "would have run," Mister Archangel. Second of all... wait, where did the seagulls go? It's quiet now. As if they left to bother someone else.

Michael flings him around a bit with his angel powers. Like is that even fun? Super powerful beings always act like it is but it's just a normal part of his abilities like my being able to scratch my elbow or blow my nose is normal for me. Anyway, Michael says he wants a better world. Cut to the season's new title card!

Meanwhile, the bunker has been embraced by the resistance fighters from the alternate dimension. Is anybody feeling guilty about the fight they left behind? Are they assuming the fight over there is done because Michael is here now? Mary checks the aim of a new gun by pointing it at or very near these people's danged heads.

The girl already died once so maybe she's unflappable and the guy's too busy getting a monster tooth removed from a wound to notice. He says it happened in Phoenix... which Google tells me is at least a 16-hour drive away if you have a normal car.

Sam joins the bunker, letting us know that he's been in Atlanta checking up on a possible Michael-Dean sighting that turned out to be someone's drug-induced hallucination. It's the good thing the Impala travels a thousand mph or that would've been a lot of wasted time. He and Mary exposit about how it's been three weeks since the end of last season. That's only three weeks of beard growth? Does that seem like a lot just because I don't grow beards?

Sam has just enough time to yawn and be sad before some guy who looks like if maybe Jonathan Van Ness got halfway through getting ready to go chop fire wood tells him there are some "gypsy type" vampires heading east. Boo, Fake Jonathan. Even though he's exhausted, Sam starts delegating teams to go take care of the problem and sits down to hack into a traffic cam.

Then he remembers a cliffhanger from last season. "Hey how's Jack?"

Cut to Jack getting his ass handed to him by Bobby in a fight training session. Aw look at his cute lil sweats. Wait... what are those windows in the gym? They look look like they're streaked with rain. Isn't the whole bunker underground?

Also omg someone give that boy a face guard while he's sparring! He can't heal his cute little mug anymore!

Meanwhile in Detroit, Castiel is following up a lead at a BBQ joint called Motown Meats. And like I know "Motown" is also a nickname for the city and not just the name of a record label, but the country music playing in this joint is still annoying to me. Anyway some pink-cheeked fella who thinks burgundy brown shoes go with cornflower blue suits strides into the place all, "Castiel! Darling!" 

This fella, with his imperious little strut and vaguely Southern demeanor, simply demands I refer to him as Young Lindsey Graham. He orders sausage, brisket and "pork ribs, well done." What the fuck, Linds? All pork ribs are well done! If someone gives you underdone pork anything, you get right off your ass and call the health department!

"I didn't think you consorted with my kind," Linds says, revealing himself to be a demon and also someone who doesn't know his basic show history.

Castiel is loath to admit that he needs information. "Does any demon know where Dean Winchester is?" Young Lindsey is delighted and scandalized at the thought of Cas losing any Winchester, much less Dean. "I thought you two were joined at the... everything." He gets about as close to pointing/looking at Cas's dick as Mary got to pointing that gun at those people's heads.

Yes, I'm terrible at making gifs. Anyway, Linds goes, "What's in it for moi?" And Cas tells him, "Your life." So Linds is like, "Come again?" Honey, he ain't even come the first time yet, don't get ahead of yourself.

Castiel uses his graveliest voice on Young Lindsey, but to no avail. It turns out the whole place is full of demons. Wouldn't Cas have picked up on that? Is he that powerless? They all crowd around him and knock him to the floor.

A sign outside a church in Duluth welcomes "Sister Jo" and advertises its morning prayers at 8 in the morning. Does that seem ridiculously early to me just because I'm a heathen? Also it's clearly nighttime in this scene. Some parishioners thank Jo for saving their lives. It seems like she should be trying to fly under the radar, so to speak.

Oh now she's walking through a dark alley, counting her money. I'll give her a pass because she has angel powers, but people on this show are always being unwise in alleys. Michael approaches her. "You don't recognize me with this pretty face?" he asks. It's the hat! It! Is! The! Hat! He reveals his big seagull-lookin' wings.

Jo is naturally suspicious of Michael. "Why would Dean say yes to you when he turned you down like seven seasons ago?" she asks. "We needed a cliffhanger for the finale and he'd already been a demon," he says. I mean, that's not what they say but I'm sure they were thinking it.

He asks her what she wants, and she tries to be glib about it but he's not buying it. He says she wants love and a family and barfy stuff like that. He keeps asking people what they want and then just ends up telling them.

Back at the bunker, Sam has a chat with Jack.

"I know this must be so hard," Sam says, "without your grace, without your powers...It's a lot, I'm sure." I mean, Sam wasn't a nephilim but he used to be super juiced up on demon blood with telekinetic powers. If there were ever a time for Sam to bust out with "hey I went through a sort of similar thing," it'd be now. Mary interrupts this tender moment to say someone's awake. Way to talk-block, Mary.

Sam reluctantly leaves Jack to go see whoever this other person is. He opens the door as the soundtrack builds up tension. The camera finally swoops in and reveals...

NO.

NO! I REFUSE. I!!! REFUSE!!!! THERE IS NO WAY NICK'S CARCASS SHOULD STILL BE ALIVE. NONE. BEGONE YOU FOUL THING, BEGONE!!!

You know what this means, right? Either that whiny little baby Lucifer will come back somehow and need to possess him again, or when they inevitably get Dean back, Michael will use this empty toothpaste tube of a human as his vessel. OH FUCK HE'S TAKING HIS SHIRT OFF

Okay why does Sam need to be the one to clean his mostly healed wound? It's not like Nick's hands are broken. Nick has a big dramatic reaction. Calm the hell down, it's peroxide not alcohol. Then he just puts the same dirty old bandage back on. What. The. Fuck.

Sam is being very sympathetic, if rattled because this guy's got the same face as the fucker that tortured him for a hundred years. Nick doesn't remember much about what happened, but says Michael told Lucifer "he wanted to do things right this time." Sam goes outside to collect himself when his phone buzzes.

"Oh, hey, Cas," he answers. Young Lindsey Graham corrects him: "I'm the boy who's got your angel." Okay, when I said he was young, I meant compared to current day Lindsey Graham. He's clearly not a boy. He's also clearly not a very worthy foe.

The music goes "eeeeeEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!" to build up tension, but fourth-tier demons are like basically gnats compared to the other baddies the Bunker Bunch have fought. It's kinda silly that Cas even got captured by these twerps.

But everyone is taking it very seriously and packing up their weapons to head to Detroit. Maybe the Other Dimension people haven't fought demons before? I can't remember. Sam assigns teams. "Maggie, you're with Bobby. Mom, you're with me." 

Jack wants to come, too, but Bobby protests that he's not ready for a demon fight. And Maggie is? That poor child seems perpetually on the verge of jumping out of her own skin. But Sam's like, "He needs this, Bobby." 

Back in Detroit, a bloodied Cas sits magically cuffed to a chair. "You sure I can't get you anything hot... and black?" Young Lindsey asks him in a needlessly suggestive manner. I mean, he's talking about coffee, not Grindr. Wtf, my dude? Castiel's face right now is so relatable.

We launch into a good old-fashioned Sit-n-Chat! Linds blah blahs about coffee and using Cas as bait, then reveals, without naming names, that Michael recently approached him like he did the other guest characters in this episode. He was asked what he wanted. "I realized after 600 years as a demon walking the planet...I didn't know." But now he's realized he wants everything. Start with some shoes that look better with your suit.

Meanwhile, Sam and Mary are driving through the perpetual rain. Seriously, how do y'all in Kansacouver deal with this much rain?? I live in Houston and we get a lot of rain, but in like... big groupings and not just constantly. Anyway, seeing that Sam is fretting, Mary says, "It's gonna be fine." Sam isn't convinced. "You don't know that!"

Now, normally this 900-mile trip would take about an hour, but Sam and Bobby didn't carpool so the Impala had to slow way down. Lol when Sam walks through the door at the barbecue place it looks like he's wearing the doorbell as a tiny hat.

Sam gets frisked to make sure he's not packing heat, then Young Lindsey waxes impressed about his shoulders and hair. He makes a "mm MM!" sound like he's just been presented a bowl of delicious bread puddin' and hot caramel sauce.

Here we are nearly at the end of the episode and we finally find out Young Lindsey Graham's name is actually Kipling. "Kip, for short," he says, offering his hand for a shake. Sam leaves him hanging. Also: lol "Kip." Kip's goons drag Jack and Maggie inside. Sam's nostrils flare in consternation as one of the demons punches Jack.

God this guy talks a lot. To sum up: Kip wants to be king of Hell and he wants the Winchesters to treat him like they did Crowley. You know, keep him around past his expiry date and then still somehow manage to make his death too abrupt.

When Sam turns him down, Kip has a bit of a tantrum. "In life, I rode with Genghis Khan!" he rails, mispronouncing it. He pouts and stomps some more, but Sam stays chill because he knows Mary and Bobby are about to bust in with guns blazing.

Slo-mo fisticuffs ensue! Kip throws Sam across the room with his powers. He's a higher level demon who could kill every human with a swoosh of his hand, but then the show would be over. Also, didn't the Bunker Bunch all have devil's trap bullets and stuff? These demons are taking a long time to die.

Kip somehow gets hold of the demon knife during the melee and takes one second long to admire how cool it is. This gives Sam enough time to switch things around and stab him with it. Kip dies as he lived: admiring Sam's shoulders.

Sam calls an end to the fight. "There will be no new King of Hell!" All the remaining demons vacate their meat suits. Who's going to run the barbecue restaurant now? Also, Castiel has been sitting, still cuffed, to that chair this whole time.

Back at the bunker, everyone is beat to hell. Cas and Sam have a rueful talk about what they just went through. Cas is embarrassed he went to the demons, but Sam says he'd work with anyone if it meant finding Dean.

In the kitchen, Mary and Bobby do a little Chekhov's flirting.

Cas goes to find Jack and try to cheer him up. "You did well," he says. "All I did was get punched in the face," Jack says. Don't sell yourself short, kid. You also got punched in the stomach.

Jack feels frustrated and useless without his powers. Cas tells him they have each other and they're family. Aww. I feel like Cas could also say he relates here. "I used to burn the eyes out of demons and destroy buildings with my voice!"

Sam gets a call from Jo. "We have a problem," she says. Is she working for Michael? Maybe!

Cut to a grungy abandoned warehouse, where Michael is currently having a chat with a monster of some kind. Maybe it's one of the vampires mentioned earlier in the episode. "Your want is pure," Michael says. Monsters are soooo much easier to deal with than people or angels! "You just wanna eat," Michael says as the monster shows off some fangs.

Incidentally, "You just wanna eat" also describes me at a brunch buffet.

So that's the end of the season premier! The FOURTEENTH season premier. Holy hell right?

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Recap/review 14.09: “The Scar”

THEN: Since this is the mid-season finale, the Then basically sums up the entire front half of the season. So much Then. It goes on forever. And you already know all of this, so I’m going to decline to recap the recap.

NOW: Kansas City, Missouri. The worst office Christmas party since that one party at Nakatomi Plaza. Cheesy music, clothing and dishes scattered about, and, oh, blood on the floor. A guy tries to flee (don’t wait for the elevator!) and ends up getting killed by something with a festive hat and big teeth, right under the mistletoe. Super!werewolf, I guess.

Super!Werewolf comes into a fancy suite to tell someone that he killed the last one, and didn’t feed because he wants to be hungry tomorrow, and then he calls this person Michael.

So. Um. Michael is actually not in Dean at all. He is, in fact, using a Latina-looking woman as a vessel. So now I’m in a bad mood about the whole thing because Michael hiding in Dean was a much, much better plot. (And maybe a little bit because I was oh so wrong.)

Michael’s minion Melanie shows up with “the last two volunteers.” Two werewolves. One of them is Garth. Ruh roh! Michael recognizes him, since he has Dean’s memories. Garth says yes, he’s Dean’s friend, but since the war is coming, he has to be on the winning side, and that’s Michael’s side. Melanie reveals that tomorrow night, the shit is going to hit the fan in Kansas City. Duh duh duuuuuhhhhh!

Title card!

Bunker. Kitchen. Jack is sitting in the dark eating a bowl of Cookie Crisp Crunch Cookie Crunch cereal. {Sidebar: Which I’m sure is scrummy, as Mary Berry would say, but the absolute best cookie-based cereal is Thin Mints, which is only available seasonally.} Cas comes in and turns on the light and gives him a look. Jack’s immediate reaction is “Don’t tell Sam” because SAM IS HIS DAD. I suppose it’s possible that Sam is the only one of this three dads who cares about him eating sugary cereal, but I choose to believe “don’t tell Sam” is because Sam is HIS MAIN DAD. Jack says Sam told him it will rot his teeth. Just brush them after you eat, duh.

He says he can’t sleep, and Cas assumes it’s because of the whole dying-and-coming-back-to-life thing. He assures Jack that’s “a rite of passage around here,” and no one can argue with that. You’re an official Winchester now, Jack. Jack says it’s actually because he’s thinking about Heaven and wondering if his mother is safe. He thought Heaven would be perfect and Cas is all, ha ha, nope, lemme tell you some stories, kid. But he says he trusts Naomi to do everything to protect the souls.

Jack then asks about Cas’s deal, particularly, why can’t Sam and Dean know about it? Cas doesn’t want to burden them with it. And since The Empty isn’t coming for him until he gives himself permission to be happy, he’s not worried that it will happen soon. “This life may be a lot of things, but it’s rarely happy.” I can’t argue with that either. He joins Jack in eating the cereal, and I don’t know why he likes it, because it seems like he’d taste the molecules. And there’s a weird “joke” about the decoder ring in the box.

Elsewhere in the bunker, Sam is on the phone with Garth, who is doing that stupid, stupid thing where you talk in your normal voice on the phone when you’re trying to hide from somebody and you also keep your back to the door so you can’t see if anyone comes into the room. I hate that thing. He says they want to change him into a super!werewolf by drinking blood mixed with grace. Sam tells him not to do that because it will rot his teeth and because they don’t know how safe it is. Garth says he’ll just pretend to swallow, and then hangs up when the other werewolf volunteer comes to get him.

Dean comes in and tells Sam Garth will be fine, but Sam says “I pulled him out of retirement for an undercover mission. If something happens to him, it’s on me.” Oh, okay. I wondered if Garth running to Michael was supposed to be a coincidence. But it’s just Sam being a leader. And right now, any hopes I had that Garth would survive the episode have been completely washed away. But Dean thinks they’re on a roll and everything will be just fine.

Sam’s extra heavy scruff sets off his pretty, pretty guilt so nicely.

Cas interrupts to announce “it’s Ketch.” I thought we were just going to talk about Ketch a lot this season without actually paying the actor to show up, but he’s skyping with Jack, who seems fascinated. He tells the guys that he did manage to get his hands on another Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, like they used in 12.08, LOTUS. But he was being followed so he did the reasonable thing and put it in the mail, so it should be there the day after tomorrow. He did pay extra for certified priority express, but seriously, Ketch. This is not the time to cheap out. You couldn’t pony up for overnight delivery?

He’s a little petulant about the fact that he doesn’t have the BMoL resources he used to have, and whose fault is that? Sam kindly doesn’t say “you tried to kill us, asshole, and you also banged our mother” and just explains that they actually need the thing right now, and Ketch is all “sorry guys,” and the music indicates that this is supposed to be humorous.

Kansas City. Garth and Other Werewolf are parked in Michael’s penthouse office. Other Werewolf tells Garth that a friend of his made the transformation into super!werewolf, and the only thing that can kill him now is “the full Ichabod.” Hee! I like that. He also makes the second Fortnight reference of the season (that I’m aware of, anyway).

Melanie the Minion enters and gives Other Werewolf his dose of go juice. After he drinks it, his eyes glow blue. She hands Garth a vial and tells him there’s nothing to be afraid of, because “only one in seven volunteers explode when they drink it.” Garth calls that “Russian Roulette odds,” though I think those would be slightly worse, at one in six. He says “slainte” (which makes me miss Rowena) and tosses it down, but obviously doesn’t swallow. Michael enters and everyone stares at Garth and he’s forced to swallow, complete with confirming glowy blue eyes.

Garth then overhears a conversation between Michael and Melanie about “her” being at an abandoned recycling facility in Omaha. Michael instructs Melanie to send a team to “kill her and destroy the spear.” Michael can feel all of his monsters drawing closer, taking positions outside the city, waiting for orders.

Bunker. Sam has tracked Ketch’s package and found it’s at a facility in Joplin, Missouri that’s closed for the holiday. And that means we can go break in and get it, he says with a grin. He gets a call from Garth, who tells him about Michael’s team being sent to Omaha to get a spear. Bingo! Garth lies that he was able to fake swallowing the super cocktail, and also fills Sam in on what he knows about Michael’s plan for Kansas City. Which apparently is going into effect on Christmas Eve. The gang decides they need to try to stop it. They know where Michael is, they know when it’s happening, they may have some angel cuffs Bobby’s been working on, they have a spell from Rowena… all they need is the holy hand grenade.

Dean says he and Cas will go to Omaha (3.5 hours from Lebanon, if you’re wondering) and get the spear, while Sam and Jack go to Joplin (about 6.5 hours if you avoid the interstate, and you know Winchesters avoid the interstate) and get the holy hand grenade. Then they’ll meet in Kansas City, and at first I think he says Nakatomi Plaza and he’s making a Die Hard joke, but it turns out he’s saying the actual name of the Michael’s hideout, Hitomi Plaza. But I’m still gonna call it a Die Hard reference because, come on. {Japanese Sounding Name} Plaza? At Christmas?

And yeah, they’re breaking the brothers up again, but I’m okay with it because (1) Sam is with Jack, and (b) we’re actually going to get to watch Sam’s story instead of it all happening off-camera.

Omaha. As they get out of the car, Cas comments that Dean seems happy. It reminds me of Dean telling Sam he seemed happy in AU Land, and we know how that ended up. Dean says how great it is that they saved Jack without any strings attached, which would be awesomely creepy if he were doing what he did to Sam back when he discovered his brother hadn’t burned the Book of the Damned after all, and he kept circling him saying what a good thing it was that Sam had burned the book, and Eldon Styne said it can’t be destroyed, and isn’t that crazy, because I know I saw something burn. (Damn, that was a good scene.) But no, this isn’t that. This is just a ham-handed reminder that Dean Doesn’t Know Cas Made a Deal, And Strings Are In Fact Attached, for those of you who have forgotten. Or are trying to forget.

Awkward!

Dean tells Cas “when you and Sam were possessed by Lucifer, I thought I understood, but I didn’t, not really.” You know who really needs to hear this speech? Sam. But okay. Dean feels like he has a chance to kill Michael now. “So yeah, I’m good.” Cas is less good about the whole thing. They enter the unlocked facility and we pause on the door long enough to make me wonder if it means something.

Meanwhile, in Joplin, Sam and Jack are driving an old blue muscle car (a 1969 Cougar, according to The Husband) and have parked it right smack dab in front of the building they’re breaking and entering. Sam disables the alarm and goes to pick the lock, but Jack (who is wearing a Santa-red jacket with white sherpa trim, because apparently he gets his fashion sense from Sam too) asks if he can do it. He taught himself using the Internet because JACK TRULY IS SAM’S KID, GUYS. Oh, bless him. Bless him so hard. Though I do think they’d be breaking into a back door, not this door right out front, but okay.

I’m so proud of you, my felonious son.

Omaha. The abandoned facility appears to be empty, though there is evidence Dark Kaia was there. A dirty pan, a filthy mattress, a large-barrel curling iron. Dean notes, just like he did the first time they tracked Dark Kaia, that her food is still warm. Cas suddenly wonders where Michael’s forces are, since they knew about Kaia’s location sooner. Maybe they already have her? But Dean thinks not, because there are no signs of a struggle. Okay, guys, don’t you think something is probably fishy here, then?

{Sidebar: Did Dean and Cas stop for a three-hour breakfast on the way? Is that why these events are happening at the same time?}

Joplin. Sam and Jack exit the building with their precious box. Jack cheerfully reads a “Happy Holidays” logo on the box, and then things get a lot less cheerful, because Sam notices a black van with its windows blacked out just in time for the first super!werewolf to hit him with a baseball bat. He’s just conscious enough to witness Jack being dragged into the van, screaming “Sam!” Sam gets to his feet and looks like he’s going to go after the fleeing van, but a familiar female voice says “I wouldn’t. Hey, Sam.”

Oh fuck. Sam recognizes Michael immediately. “Happy holidays,” says Michael, holding the the holy hand grenade. Sam draws an angel blade and says “you’re gonna kill me anyway.” He lunges at Michael but gets tossed into a truck and waits to die. Michael does the glowy blue eyes, but it’s not to kill Sam, it’s to melt the holy hand grenade. Then Michael renders Sam unconscious.

Omaha. Dean is calling Sam and not getting an answer. Okay, so if he’s been calling long enough to be concerned, maybe there is a little bit of a time differential here. Maybe he and Cas did do their thing before Sam and Jack got to Joplin. He gets a call from Garth, who says he tried to call Sam but didn’t get an answer, and that Michael left a few minutes ago to “back up his forces.” Well, if that refers to the forces that kidnapped Jack, then I guess Joplin and Omaha are happening simultaneously, and I know I’m the only one who cares about the logistics, so let’s handwave that and carry on.

Dean says whereever those “forces” are, it isn’t Omaha, which surprises Garth. He promises to call Dean if he hears anything. Then, surprise surprise, Michael shows up behind him. Wow. Who could have ever predicted that someone would overhear one of Garth’s sneaky phone calls? The ones he has at full volume with his back unguarded? (Seriously, Garth. Text.) “Let’s talk,“ Michael says.

Dean angrily wonders what they should do next, and suddenly finds himself with a spear at his back. He tells Kaia they didn’t come to take the spear, they came to ask for it. Kaia says no, and he says she should just kill him then. The only thing that will stop Michael from killing the people he cares about, and then the rest of the world, is that spear. So if he can’t get it from her, he may as well be dead. {sniff!}

She asks what’s in it for her, and says she wants to go back home, because it turns out this new world sucks as much as the old one, and at least in her world she understood things and had her own magic. She needs "the special boy” to open the rift for her (YES JACK IS A SPECIAL BOY), and Dean blatantly lies and says he can, and he will. Cas points out that she must be very, very afraid of something if she’s even willing to consider giving up her spear. She says she has people she’s bound to protect, and then gives Dean the spear. “If you don’t bring this back to me, I will find you and kill you.”

I kind of want Dean to say “if I don’t bring it back, it’s because I’m already dead.” Maybe because this reminds me of him taking the First Blade from Crowley when he killed Cain. Or Appointment in Samara, which I just watched, where Dr. Robert asks if Dean has anything for Sam if his death reversal doesn’t work, and Dean says that if it doesn’t work, nothing he has to say will matter to Sam anyway.

Kaia needs to think about effectiveness instead of drama. There’s no way she could seriously stab him, the way she’s holding this. She doesn’t have any leverage.

So, Dark Kaia has someone she wants to protect. Is there an AU Claire in her world? (Do I care? Nope.)

Dean looks down when his phone rings, and when he looks up, Kaia is gone. The call is from Sam, who really ought to have his own ringtone on Dean’s phone, don’t you think? Sam tells him what happened. He repeats it word-for-word after the commercial, which is weird. Sam doesn’t know why Michael didn’t kill him. And it should be pretty obvious that if Michael didn’t kill you, Sam, it was because he wanted you alive for some reason. (And probably not the same reason I want you alive.) They agree to meet in Kansas City. Cas warns Sam “don’t you go in there alone.” Sam agrees to do what he’s told, as he always does (ha ha).

{Sidebar: Sam’s got a head start that could be a short as 15 minutes or could be as long as an hour, depending on the route you take.}

Kansas City. Jack is led into Michael’s penthouse suite and unceremoniously dumped on the floor. He gives him a villain monologue about how he destroyed Kansas City in his world, but people interfered and things got messy, so he’s doing it better this time, with a wave of monster transformation. That’s how you succeed. Work smarter, not harder.

Michael tells Jack that “we’re the only kin each other has left in this world,” which seems wrong by anyone’s definition. Because if angels from different sides of the rift can be called “related,” that means every angel in our world is Michael’s brother. Jack says “my uncle is in the cage,” and I’m oddly pleased that Insane Archangel Michael hasn’t been forgotten. (I’ve still got hopes he’ll come back, and he’ll be played by Matt Cohen.) Michael clarifies that their relation is based on power, not family, because Jack will live forever and see it all. “You’ll see it all, with me… And as your power returns, and grows, we’ll only become more alike.” I guess it’s smart of Michael to decide Jack needs to be turned into an ally, but this isn’t going to do it. It’d be easier to just kill him.

“Sam, Dean, and Castiel. They’ll come for me.” Michael smiles and leaves, and doesn’t say what I’m thinking, which is “I know, honey, and that’s exactly why you’re here.”

Down in the lobby, this episode’s two super!werewolves emerge from the elevator into the parking garage. One runs off to take his position, while the other notices a blue 1969 Cougar parked nearby. And promptly gets the full Ichabod. Melanie the Minion sees the body on a security camera and runs into an elevator. Unfortunately for her, Sam is in it. Ichabod treatment number two!

Sam shows up in the penthouse suite and cuts Jack loose. Before they can flee, he hears footsteps. It’s Garth! They’re safe! Ha ha not so much. Down in the parking garage, Garth suffers from some stomach problems and then turns around with glowy blue eyes and grows some gnarly new teeth. He tells Sam he’s sorry, but Michael won’t let him stop, and attacks. Sam gives him the Raised Index Finger of Reason and says “you don’t have to do this.” He fights Garth, and then Jack jumps in to save him, and finally Sam ends up apologizing as he chokes Garth unconscious. (Post-exertion huff! Yes!)

I love the way Sam always holds up that one finger when he’s trying to get someone unreasonable to do the reasonable thing.

Time jump. “Sleep tight, buddy,” Dean says, as he shuts the Impala trunk on a trussed-up, unconscious Garth. I don’t know how there’s room for a person in there, since half the trunk is full of weapons, but he’s a small guy. “Thanks for waiting for us,” Dean says sarcastically. “I didn’t have a choice,” Sam says. Which is pretty not true, and Dean gives him a look.

Sam thinks that when Garth turned into a super!werewolf, he created a window for Michael to spy on them. Dean hopes killing Michael will undo Garth’s powered up status. Sam has called other hunters to Kansas City “in case we don’t win up there.” I hope he told someone about Garth in the trunk. “I wouldn’t be against us,” says Dean, awkwardly trying to spin the spear.

Once again, Cas is the one looking at the big picture. “Michael’s monsters are all over this city,” he says. “If he feared us in the least, he would have sent some our way.” Sam deduces that Michael wants them there. (That’s a good reason to run, fellas.) And since Michael can detect Cas’s presence, they have absolutely no element of surprise, and are obviously walking into a trap. And during this conversation, the Christmas muzak that’s been playing every time we’re in this building is replaced by “Ode to Joy.” Now I wonder if this episode has been sprinkled with other Die Hard references that I missed.

(Oh god, young evil Alan Rickman, you sexy motherfucker. )

They stride through the parking garage in slo mo, under the strident vocals of “Ode to Joy,” and again it seems like maybe this was supposed to be humorous. It’s definitely lighthearted. (I’m not complaining. I love “Ode to Joy.”) (And yes, I’m aware it’s actually Beethoven’s 9th Symphony.)

{Sidebar: If we’re going Die Hard here, does that mean Sam and/or Dean are going to be running around in a tank top? Because I’m here for that.}

I am totally and completely here for that.

Upstairs, Michael pours a drink and waits impatiently for TFW to show up. Finally he smiles and says “there he is.” Michael wanders through the penthouse calling for Cas, who finally shows up and attacks the archangel with a regular angel blade. “Why’d you come alone,” Michael asks. “Advance scout? Strongest player first?” I guess, technically, Cas is the strongest player in this group, but that doesn’t mean he comes out on top the most. So, can Michael really not sense the others? Not even Jack?

Michael punches Cas in the face and then drags him in front of the big window. Sam and Jack are hiding off to the side, and as they make their move (and are equally unsuccessful, unless you know they’re actually there as a distraction), Dean jumps from his hiding place and lunges at Michael with the spear. But he’s really not that good with it and ends up dropping it.

Michael is monologuing at Dean, telling him that all the bloodshed is on him and he gets to watch it, which would be a really good opportunity for Sam to grab the dropped spear and take a shot while Michael is distracted. Instead, Sam sayss “Dean” and tosses him the spear, just like with Lucifer. {sigh}

Dean manages to cut Michael, but it’s not a serious wound. He stands there holding the spear, but not striking. Michael smiles and Dean’s vision goes blurry, and then he has flashbacks of his time as Michael’s vessel. Then Michael drops to the floor, unconscious, and Dean gets a weird look on his face and has one more flashback I don’t recognize. It’s Dean, or at least he’s dressed as Dean, standing behind a bar wiping a glass. What is this? When did it happen? Is it Dean or Michael?

Seriously, I’m stumped.

Anyway. As the remaining members of TFW stare at him in confusion, Dean snaps the spear in two (which, of course, destroys its power) (and oooh, Dark Kaia is gonna be so pissed) and turns around to reveal glowy blue eyes and I’m grinning because I knew it! I knew it! Michael has been in there all along, and this whole other vessel was a ruse, a flunkie, an illusion, a simultaneous vessel, or something else but NOT MICHAEL BECAUSE MICHAEL WAS IN DEAN ALL ALONG.

Except. Oh. He wasn’t. Well then.

“When I gave up Dean, you didn’t think to question it?” he says. “To ask why?”

(YES, WE DID, WE ALL DID, RIGHT HERE, DID YOU NOT HEAR US?)

Michael actually did abandon Dean as a vessel, because “Dean was resisting me. He was too attached to you. To all of you. He wouldn’t stop squirming.” (And yes, I know that first you meant Sam, he was squirming too much BECAUSE HE LOVES SAM, and I’m just gonna roll around in that for a while.)

So Michael really was gone, but he left a door open. “Just a crack.” Is that what Dean’s dizzy spell was? The open door? And also, does consent work differently for AU angels? Because we know from Tamoh!Gadreel that on this side of the rift, angels have to get consent again, even if they’re trying to inhabit a vessel that formerly gave consent. So this little “open door” trick of Michael’s shouldn’t work. But maybe they’ve got different rules for angels over there.

I’m actually enjoying Michael!Dean here. And, of course, stunned/devastated Sam.

Michael!Dean kind of has a halo here, doesn’t he? Oh, clever, clever Show.

Michael says he did this in order to crush Dean completely, “so this time he’ll be nice and quiet for a change.” You know, I think the way to crush Dean would have been to kill the three other people in this room, but maybe Michael knows him better than I do. He tells them this time, Dean is buried. “And now I have a whole army out there, waiting. Ready for my command. Ready for this.” He holds up his fingers and snaps.

Well, Thanos, there’s your cliffhanger.

So! I’m disappointed that I wasn’t right about Michael hiding inside Dean, and I think “I wanted to crush him” is a reasonable goal, but there are easier ways Michael could have done that. Like forcing Dean to watch as he kills everyone he loves. And I wonder why Michael didn’t think to plop Dean into a happy fantasy, like Gadreel did with Sam. That would have been even easier. And we didn’t get anyone running around in a white wifebeater with lacerated feet, which was another disappointment.

But for a mytharc episode, this was fairly tight. If the Buckleming had written it, there would have been a lot more B plot (whatever the B plot might have been), a lot more “humor,” and less time to spend on the characters we actually did care about. The brothers were split up, but it was done to tell two stories simultaneously, and not just so Dean could replace Sam with Cas or a random character. We did get some good Sam & Jack, and some badass Sam, as well as confirmation that Dean loves Sam most of all. So we’ve had worse.

And now the holiday hellatus begins! I hope your Christmas Eve is better than the one going down in Kansas City.

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Supernatural: The Man with No Name, Chapter 22

This is a chaptered fanfiction piece taking place during season 14 of Supernatural.

Premise

This story takes place after episode 14.02 “Gods and Monsters.”

The arrival of John Winchester raises many questions, and gives us a glimpse into a world in which a few vital moments went a different way.

Notes: This piece is being crossposted on my Ao3.

Twenty-Two

“Tell me about Jack,” John said. “What’s his deal?”

He’d been curious about the boy since he shook his hand at the diner. There was something off about him he couldn’t quite place.

“Jack is… complicated,” Mary warned.

“Ain’t it always complicated?”

John smiled.

“Jack is a nephilim,” Mary said. “He’s the son of a woman named Kelly Kline, who died. And Lucifer.”

John straightened.

“Lucifer? He has a son here?”

“Jack wants no part of him,” Mary said. “He considers Castiel his father. He’s a good kid. New. His aging process is… Well, he’s technically only a year old. So, he’s still wrapping his head around things.”

John didn’t know what to make of that.

“Is he… I mean, what the hell is he?”

“He’s a boy, John. A good boy. He used to be powerful, but he’s weakened now. Basically a mortal until he… recharges.”

She didn’t know if that was the right word.

John felt uneasy about that, but there wasn’t much he could do about it. The kid had seemed alright to him. Kind. Pleasant.

Mary finished her beer, standing to toss the can in the trash and grab another.

“I’m trying to figure out why we have a Castiel and you don’t,” she said.

“Well, how’d he wind up here in the first place?” John asked.

Mary closed the fridge, cracked her beer, and sat back down on the bed.

“That’s…”

“Complicated,” John finished.

Mary smiled. She took a swig of her beer before she answered.

“He, uh… He pulled Dean out of Hell.”

John’s eyes widened in alarm.

“Hell?”

Mary nodded.

“Azazel, he threw Sam into this… competition. Him and other people who were fed Azazel’s blood as children.”

John nodded slowly.

“And they all died one by one,” he said. “That happened on our side, too.”

“It did?”

John nodded.

“Did Sam… Did Sam die in your version, too?” Mary asked.

John frowned.

“What? No. Sam, he… Well, he had to kill some people, but he came out of that one on top.”

“So, Dean never made his deal on your end.”

“What deal?”

Mary sighed, trying to recalibrate.

“Sam didn’t make it to the end of Azazel’s game,” she explained. “So, Dean made a deal to bring him back. He went to Hell, and Castiel brought him back.”

John sat back against the headboard.

“God damn.”

“Wait, then how did the seals start on your side?” Mary asked.

“What?”

“The first seal, the one that set everything in motion. It was ‘a righteous man spilling blood in Hell.’ Dean. He was the first seal. If he never went to Hell, what kicked it off for you?”

John ran a hand along his jaw.

“I don’t know,” he said.

Mary wondered if that was true, or if there was something he was leaving out.

“Explain something to me,” John said. “If you died back in nineteen-eighty-three, how am I sitting here talking to you?”

“Honestly? Divine intervention.”

John blinked.

“Run that by me again?”

She threw up her free hand.

“The short answer is God’s sister.”

“God’s… sister?” John asked.

He had to wrap his head around ‘God’ and then ‘sister’ on top of that.

“Yeah,” Mary said. “There was this whole thing with these upper-tier demons called Knights of Hell, and that led to Cain. ‘Cain and Abel’ Cain. He was, like, the leader of the Knights of Hell. Dean, at some point, was given the Mark of Cain. He hasn’t told me the details. But, through the Mark of Cain, the darkness was released. God’s sister, Amara.”

“Holy shit,” John muttered.

It was like learning to hunt all over again. He couldn’t keep up.

“She wanted to destroy the world,” Mary continued. “Instead, God left with her so she wouldn’t be alone, and she - or they, I’m not really sure. Somebody brought me back. I don’t know why.”

John studied her.

“Why do you think?” he asked. “If you had to guess?”

Mary thought about it. She’d thought about it a lot since she’d been back, gone back and forth from one theory to another.

“To fix things,” she said. “Right my wrongs.”

“Right your wrongs?” John asked.

He sounded baffled. Mary smiled.

“I made that deal with Azazel,” she said. “Then I left you all, dragged you into this world of monsters and apocalypses. Plural fucking apocalypses. In another world, I didn’t make the deal and the earth fell to Michael. That world’s horrific. People are barely hanging on over there. In your world, I didn’t die the night Azazel visited Sam. But I died when Lucifer rose, and that world went to shit.”

She took a shaky breath, trying not to sob. John sat up, setting his beer on the bedside table.

“Mary.”

“No matter what I do, what I did or didn’t do in whatever universe, it’s always the wrong fucking thing!”

Her voice came out small and shaky and John put his arms around her without a thought, like it was the most natural thing in the world. Mary clung to him tight, sobbing quietly into his shirt.

“I don’t think that’s true,” John said.

His voice was quiet, soothing.

“I have one world where you died and Sam and Dean were never born because I didn’t make a deal. Another one where Dean and I died and Sam became Lucifer. This one where we both died and they’ve lost almost everyone they ever cared about. Now I’m back, and I know all of it. That every choice I ever make somehow leads to something horrible. It’s like… It’s like this is some kind of punishment.”

John frowned, pulling away slightly to look down at her.

“What?”

She wiped at her face.

“I don’t remember dying,” she said. “I mean, I remember Azazel, and I remember being dead. I was in Heaven. With you, and little Dean, and baby Sam. Mom. Dad. We were together, and we were normal, and we were happy. And now I’m here, and every day’s a fight. Some days every second. Just a fight to keep going, not to give up. And every morning I wake up and for about five seconds, I forget where I am. For five seconds you’re still alive, and my sons are still babies, and there are no monsters. And then I open my eyes, and I lose all of you all over again. I lose my whole family every day, and from that moment on every second is just keeping busy. Keeping moving. Filling the day up with endless things to do so I don’t have to think about everything I’ve lost. And there’s not even anyone to blame, because it’s all my fault. Every time, no matter how you slice it, it’s always because of something I did or didn’t do, and I just…”

John took her face gently in his hands. Her cheeks were damp and red with tears. His heart broke for her.

“I don’t know how to do this, John,” she said.

“Yes you do,” he whispered. “You’re doing it. You’ve always done it.”

He moved her hair out of her face so he could see her eyes.

“You fight,” he said. “You fight like Hell. Because the second you stop, the bad guys win.”

Mary sniffed, trying to collect herself.

“Maybe you are here to fix things,” John reasoned. “But, maybe not for you. Mary, out of the three worlds we’ve talked about, this is the only one where our sons are still our sons. Still alive and fighting hard for a world that hasn’t gone to shit yet. This is the only world where you, Sam, and Dean are all here together. Maybe you’re here because they need you, Mary.”

“They don’t,” she muttered.

“Of course they do,” John insisted. “You’re their mother.”

“I don’t even know them, John. When I died, Dean was four. Sam was just a baby. I missed their entire childhood. They’re grown men now and I have no idea who they are.”

“They’re your sons,” he said simply. “So, fight for them. Fight tooth and nail for them, Mary, because that’s who you are. A badass mama bear who’d do anything to protect her family.”

She closed her eyes tight against tears and nodded, wiping her nose on the back of her hand. She pulled away from him.

“I’m sorry,” she said. “I didn’t mean to turn into a total basket case.”

John smiled.

“You’re not.”

He couldn't imagine what it was like for her to have fast-forwarded through their entire childhood. He remembered her decorating for birthday parties, dinosaur themed and Indiana Jones themed. There had been one with cowboys. She'd opened Christmas presents with the kids in the morning, taught Sam how to ride a bike. Mary had nursed their fevers, kissed their boo-boos better, helped Dean through his first break-up. John couldn't believe there was a version of him who had raised the boys without her.

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Chapter One, Chapter Two, Chapter Three, Chapter Four, Chapter Five, Chapter Six, Chapter Seven, Chapter Eight, Chapter Nine, Chapter Ten, Chapter Eleven, Chapter Twelve, Chapter Thirteen, Chapter Fourteen, Chapter Fifteen, Chapter Sixteen, Chapter Seventeen, Chapter Eighteen, Chapter Nineteen, Chapter Twenty, Chapter Twenty-One, Chapter Twenty-Three,  Chapter Twenty-Four, Chapter Twenty-Five, Chapter Twenty-Six, Chapter Twenty-Seven

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21 SPN-themed questions

I stole this from @squirrel-moose-winchester

These looked fun and frustrating. Answers under the cut

1. when did you start watching supernatural?

Complicated. I saw the first episode when it premiered in 2005, but there was something else on at the same time that I wanted to watch more when I was 15 years old, so I forgot it existed until season 7 and then I... stopped caring about most other things in life.

2. who is your favourite in tfw?

If I have to pick, and I’m not happy to have to pick, it’s gotta be Dean. Dean has my heart.

3. who is your least favourite in tfw?

Yeah, that’s not... 404: answer not found

4. tag your top 5 supernatural blogs.

@bamby0304 @kittenofdoomage @impala-dreamer @leatherwhiskeycoffeeplaid @saxxxology

5. what is your favourite character (not including tfw)?

Crowley

6. who is your favourite woman in supernatural?

Charlie or Donna.

7. John or Mary?

John. Not just because he’s JDM, but because he kinda reminds me of my dad and he really did the best to set Sam and Dean up for success. 

8. what were your first opinions of sam, dean, cas and jack?

Based upon the first episode which they appear... Sam: He seemed a little superior and not very fun. Dean: He’s so flirty and awesome! Cas: Dude! He’s so hot and nonchalant and fucking scary powerful! Jack: He’s just walking around naked... he’s just totally crazy powerful and innocent! I hope he’s not evil.

9. whats your favourite season?

Oh, man! This is hard! Season Five is probably my favorite, but Season Ten holds a spot in my heart and I really do love Season Twelve, too.

10. whats your least favourite season?

Seven. Like, only because Bobby dies and I can’t... like, I just can’t.

11. opinions on destiel?

I don’t ship it, but sometimes I ship it. Like, I’m not a hardcore, but I can see the appeal and if it’s well-written, I will read it.

12. do you believe supernatural queerbaits?

No. I do not. 

13. seasons 1-7 or 8-14?

I... No. Refuse.

14. favourite villain (plot wise)?

Crowley. But... also, Lucifer, but also Michael... 

15. do you think they should end the Lucifer plot line?

Um, yes. I love Lucifer (such a strange sentence), but Sam deserves for him to be gone.

16. who do you think has gone through more trauma (sam, dean or cas)?

Sam. Sam’s trauma has literally driven him insane. Dean’s always held his marble in a lead friggen box.

17. whats your favourite supernatural episode?

Reichenbach

18. do you like case episodes?

Yeah. What’s not to like?

19. who do you relate most to in tfw?

Cas, probably. He just wants to do the right thing and he keeps fucking up, anyway and that just seems so like me.

20. why do you like supernatural?

It is a show that hurts so good and makes me so happy at the same time and the fact that they can pull off the dynamic that they do, consistently, is amazing.

21. if you could bring back one character and kill off another who would they be?

Bring back real Charlie, kill off Ketch or Mary... or au Bobby. Probably au Bobby.

#let this work

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First off I would like to thank you for answering my ask and directing me to some pretty awesome Sam-questioning-reality fanfiction. Second is what I wish the Supernatural writers did for the last six or seven seasons (so it's gonna be long and ranty.) So I noticed that after season 5 Supernatural didn't seem to know where it wanted to take the show. For the first five season there was the overarching story of starting and ending the apocalypse. It did have a monster of the week going on but

each monster of the week added something to either characters, lore, or plot. They also had an overarching theme of Hell going on. The watchers are introduced to demons and demon deals, two major characters enter demon deals, two characters go to hell and the third gets to go to the center of Hell at the end of season 5. But after season 5 the writers just seemed lost like they didn't know what to do with the show or the characters. (Especially Sam). So the next 7 seasons it kind of seemed like

they were just wandering around saying 'oh this seems cool lets add this' or 'this will bring the drama so lets do that.' There was no overarching story or theme. What I wished (since you can't go back in time and change the future yet) they did was a 5 season theme arch about purgatory. The boys would learn about the history of monsters (I know they kind of did that with eve but it was not very in depth like they did with hell.) Learn about souls, more about angels and the seasons actually

having a story over arching the whole five season instead of 'oh this seems cool to do.' I also wound't drop important character plots (cough Sam's Sanity cough) like hot iron (or give them lame conclusions *I never liked the idea of Cas just being able to take on the hell memories and they never bother Sam again, it just seemed like a cop out*). What i also wished was for consequences. For awhile now there haven't really been any weighty consequences for any of the characters. Even Death is

irrelevant. Kevin dies, it's okay he's now a ghost, the brothers can totally still talk to him (I know it was only one episode but it made his death seem kind for the shock value.) Cas dies (nope he's in another universe). Charlie dies (she hasn't returned but if she dies it will be in a convoluted way. It's getting to comics level with characters dying and coming back to life). Mary coming back to life destroys the tension (and I do like Mary, it interesting to see the interaction between her

and the boys) but her being back is bad writing. We all know that if we want a character back all the writers would have to do was invent some magic wand and all the dead characters would be back. So I miss consequences and having what character do matter. For the purgatory story arch the soul-less-Sam thing would lasted a whole season or close to (insane Sam the following season with a better less lame conclusion) The writers could even keep in the leviathans and have Dean go to Purgatory and

Sam has to go to Purgatory to get Dean. (Purgatory was another cool plot concept that the writers flung in to left field). The next five season theme would be heaven (hey, this is reminding me of Dante's Inferno). This is where the heaven civil war comes in (and Cas character arch would make more sense if the overarching theme was about Heaven. It could have the trials at the end (you could have even brought back Mary and John and any other characters in the purgatory arch) so when they do the

the trials they would have to lose all the family they got back during the purgatory arch. (this is good writing. When a character has to lose something to gain something, it gives more tension and depth to the characters.) So if they want to close hell Sam and Dean would lose their parents (and any other character that came out of purgatory) it would also be an interesting morality question (is it selfish to keep you parents and not close the gates of Hell *which had been there for all of human

history*) After the Heaven Arch there could even be a Mortal Arch that all about what Sam and Dean do after saving the world several times over. It would be about how you return to just hunting ghosts/spirits after dealing with heaven, hell and purgatory. And It would probably be the final arch/5 season as well. (Hey that would have been a good 20 season. That's 20 years playing the same character, the actors might want to do something different or pass the torch to new characters (like charlie)

So what do you think? Would that have been better then the meandering story line we have today? Sorry this was so long but it really needed to be said. I always hear people complain about Supernatural when things don't go their way (whether its Sam, Dean, Cas or Other) but I don't always hear people give solutions or a 'what i would have done' (then again the internet is a big place I'm sure I just missed the corner the solutions to all my problems are). So thoughts? Sorry about the length.

No worries! I love that you took the time to share this. Gonna put this under a cut because I may also talk a bit and I fear this might get long...

Those are some really cool ideas! I think the way the first five seasons melded Heaven, Hell, and our favorite mortal fellas’ fates together really made them what they were. The first five seasons had direction, consequences, originality, and a world that we learned more about with each episode. Like you said, the later seasons don’t work that way.

Instead of—sorry for the tired metaphor—peeling pack the layers of the onion until we get to the core of things, the later seasons just dart off in random directions hoping to strike ratings gold. I’ll be honest and say there are parts of seasons six, seven, eight, and eleven that I liked quite a bit, but later seasons have fallen into the trap of... basically neutering heaven and hell, making them into the butts of every joke. 

The writers took away all the mystery and mysticism and terror and awe that made both heaven and Hell such interesting places to contemplate. Now they’re just suit-wearing big corporations. The wonder and fear I felt in the earlier seasons is gone. This show hasn’t been genuinely scary in years. The earlier seasons capitalized on the fear of the unknown. The pacing was solid, and as viewers, we were always aware that we were working toward something. They’d either defy fate or they’d go down in flames.

The later seasons have fallen into the trap of believing that having a bigger, badder villain will make the show better.

Really, for a long time now, they’ve been needing to look inside.

The characters have been made into plot puppets rather than real people who drive the action with their choices and desires and fears. 

The show has also lacked cohesion and (as you mentioned!) consequences.

It really does just feel like they’re sliding from one thing to the next, trying to one-up themselves. Mark of Cain --> God’s Sister --> Lucifer’s kid --> ??? 

And it’s just a pale imitation of what it used to be.

I’m not sure if dedicating five seasons to each arc would work, since it might get predictable and formulaic if the writers weren’t careful, but I’m loving the idea of a Dante’s Divine Comedy sorta structure.

The thing is, I feel like some of the things the writing team has actually come out with could have been interesting under a competent showrunner and with writers who had a solid concept both of show canon and of consistency and consequence.

I love that there are so many people out there who love this show so much that they want to see it go on forever. I think that’s amazing and courageous.

I would rather see the show end than ruin everything that made it beautiful to me, though. If the writers could competently handle the story, I’d watch it for 100 seasons, but the show is losing amazing writers as fast as it gets them. (Nancy Won, anyone?)

Ack, sorry that this is kind of depressing.

Your ideas are wonderful and I think the writers could benefit from having the sense of balance you have. Thanks for sharing. :D

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Mormonism is a Judaic cult that has robbed millions of victims of their money and their souls

The founder of the Mormon Church, Joseph Smith, was a practicing occultist as well as a serial adulterer whose own mother said often told “tall tales.” His tallest tale was that an angel named Moroni gave him golden plates and that the Father and His Son, Jesus, personally appeared to him.

Mormonism’s most famous leader was Brigham Young, a polygamist and cunning religious manipulator who secretly ordered the savage murder of dozens of innocent men, women, and children.

Now, today, the Mormon Church, which prefers to be called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, is proud to present as its candidate for the high office of President of the United States one Mittens Romney, a smiling, flip-flopping con man whose sole claim to fame is having been a sock puppet and figurehead leader of an Israeli Zionist proprietary organization known as Bain and Co.

The Chairman of the Board of Bain is Orit Gadiesh, a former Mossad agent and spy queen whose father was an Israeli army general. Bain was set up in business by elitist Masonic chieftains, the same corrupt group that hired now Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu and Romney were Boston pals and Masons chosen as young men by the Zionist elite for big things solely because of their bloodline and wealthy families.

Former Bain CEO Mitt Romney fits perfectly in the mold of satanist Mormons Joseph Smith and Brigham Young who went before him. All three are proven liars and criminals. The Mormon Church is itself built on a shaky foundation of lies, slanders, heresies, sex deviate conduct and murders. Its entire history is stained with blood and crime.

So, of course, is the history of Israel and the Jews loaded to the brim with monstrous criminality. It is not surprising, then, that the Mormon sect is, in fact, nothing more than a Judaic cult. It is, moreover, a dangerous cult that can never be washed clean of its mire and grime. Therefore, if Mitt Romney, whose own testimony is that of a dedicated and faithful priest and servant of the Mormon Church, is elected President of the United States and is duly sworn into office on January 20, 2013, that event will mark the incredible rise of an occultic antichrist religion built on a mountain of outrageous and absurd lies.

Mormonism, a pagan Judaic cult of Masonic origins, will have placed its representative in the White House in the person of President Mitt Romney. As such, he will be controller and master over much of the earth. In this high position, he will be director of the world’s greatest military force and overseer of a money printing combine, the Federal Reserve System, primed to facilitate the most massive financial crash and economic catastrophe in the annals of humanity.

I say, if a man or woman votes for Mitt Romney, why not be honest and simply write-in on the ballot the name of the one who, as Romney’s superior and Lord, will really be in charge? That would be Lucifer, also known as Satan the devil.

Under Mormon priest Romney and his vice president, the Roman Catholic Paul Ryan, America will descend into the very depths of a Leviathan Zionist hell. What’s more, we will have fallen into a serpents’ pit in which the serpents—the combined world crime factory of some 30 million Zionist Mormons and Jews—prescribe for our nation a demonic overdose of psychopathic inducing steroids.

The tragedy, of course, is that some forty million other Americans, those of the Baptist, Pentecostal, Assembly of God, and other denominations and groups who say they are “evangelicals”—erroneously believe that the Jews and Israel are “God’s Chosen People.” This in spite of the fact that Judaism and its rabbis teach that Jesus is a blasphemer and occultist burning forever in fiery excrement in hell (Talmud, Gitten 57a ) and that his mother, Mary, was a slut and a whore who bore Jesus out of wedlock, thanks to her supposed affair with a Roman Centurion.

Long-time associates Mitt Romney and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu were initiated as Masonic brothers. After college, they worked side-by-side for a Zionist firm in Boston. If Romney becomes President, together the two will immerse America into a fiery, boiling Leviathan pit.(At right) Like many other young Mormon males, Mitt Romney (left) is a draft dodger who used his stint as a young Mormon missionary to avoid serving in the Army during the Vietnam War era.

Sadly, very few evangelicals are even remotely aware of these vicious teachings by the Jews and their rabbis and so they continue to exalt the Jews as a holy and wonderful people whom God has chosen to dominate and rule the world.

Now come the Mormons. Thanks to a clever, ongoing propaganda campaign by Romney and his Salt Lake City, Utah, theocratic cronies, the evangelicals, as well as tens of millions of other deluded American citizens, have been fed the stupid and ignorant deception that Mormonism is simply another “Christian” faith and that Mormons are dedicated to their Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Brigham Young was a tyrant, a con man, a polygamist, and a murderer. Today’s Mormons honor him as a saint.

Unbelievable! Folks, the Mormon Church is a Luciferian New Age Church. More, it is a Judaic cult which actually teaches in its doctrinal books and texts the notion that God the Father is an exalted man of flesh, bones and blood who came to earth and had physical sex with Mary. (According to the Mormons, there was no virgin birth.) From this sexual coupling, Jesus was born in the flesh. Mormonism says that Jesus’ brother is Lucifer (yes, Lucifer, the devil!), and that Jesus is only one of millions of gods in the universe. Does that sound like a Christian faith to you?

Brigham Young (the Utah-based university is named after this swindler) even claimed that Adam (you know, of Adam and Eve fame) is the real “God” whom we must worship. Many Mormons today hold to the view that, “Adam, not Jesus, is coming again.”

There’s more heresy too—boat loads of it. Like the Mormon teaching that Jesus did not die on the cross for our sins. Then there is the Mormon belief that Jesus had three wives he slept with while here on earth—Mary Magdalene and the two sisters of Lazarus. Jesus, the Mormons hold, has sex these days with countless other wives added to his marital collection.

Since the Mormons were founded by a Mason, Joseph Smith, naturally, the Mormon male is initiated by ceremonies originating from Masonic philosophies and using Masonic handshakes, symbols, language and signals. Mitt Romney, like all high-level Mormon priests, is required to wear his white “union” underwear with the Masonic square and compass embroidered or printed on the breast and other devilish Masonic symbols on the knees. (Ask Mitt about that at his next campaign stop).

Mormonism’s criminal founder Joseph Smith was well known as a con artist who ripped people off by claiming he could magically discover the location of gold mines and hidden treasure by using an occultic divining “peepstone.” He was arrested for this and put in jail for a short spell. Later, in jail once again, Joseph Smith was murdered by an angry lynch mob that accused the Mormon founder of stealing other mens’ land and wives. A “Jupiter” magic lucky charm was found on his possession, in his pocket. Its alleged miraculous powers obviously failed the slain “Prophet of Mormonism.”

Joseph Smith was a handsome and charismatic fellow who had a grand total of twenty-seven wives. His successor, Brigham Young, continued the practice of polygamy. After Smith’s death, Brigham Young and the “church” fled the increasingly hostile Midwest and brought thousands of Mormon faithful to the desert “oasis” of Utah. There he ruled as a tyrant and created the “Danites,” a vigilante group that tormented and murdered ex-Mormons and other designated enemies.

Mormon gunmen murdered innocents of a wagon train and seized their gold and belongings. Called the Mountain Meadows Massacre (1857), it was ordered by Mormon leader Brigham Young.

When the Mormon hierarchy heard of a wagon train passing by on its way to California, Brigham Young sent out a murderous bunch to massacre the innocent passersby. History books today refer to it as the “Mountain Meadows Massacre.” It seems that the Mormons had advance knowledge of some gold the wagon train settlers had in their possession. Old Brigham Young, like his predecessor in crime, Joseph Smith, was a scheming crook, and so he determined to seize it. The men, women, and most of the children were savagely killed. Some were scalped.

Sounds a lot like what today’s Israeli Zionists have done to the innocent Palestinians, doesn’t it?

Today, Mitt Romney believes Joseph Smith to be a true prophet of God and Brigham Young to be a saint. Thus, Romney follows in the tradition of these past Mormon devils in human clothing. “And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works” (II Corinthians 11:14,15).

Most Americans have been duped into believing that Mormons are a wholesome, clean-living religious group. Not so. Mormonism infects all who profess it. Would you believe me if I told you that the violent crime rate (murders, rapes, armed robberies, etc.) for Salt Lake City and most other Utah cities is among the highest in the nation? Most people have heard different, but those are the facts.

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Mormon businessmen, like their Jewish counterparts, favor each other and many do not hesitate to rip off and defraud “Gentiles.” Gentiles, that’s what the Mormons call you and me. Meanwhile, they fancy themselves to be “Israelites” of the tribes of Ephraim and Manassas. Their goal is a Zionist Kingdom on earth. Mormonism, I stress once again, is a Judaic (Jewish) cult.

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Mitt Romney is personally well known as a dishonest “flip-flopper” who can’t be trusted. One day he’s pro-life and anti-gay. The next day he’s just the opposite. In my opinion that’s the mark of Jews and Mormons: doublemindedness. That’s why Masons (Freemasonry is also a Judaic cult) have, as their 33rd degree logo, the Eagle with two heads!

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In the Scriptures we are told that, “A doubleminded man is unstable in all his ways” (James 1:8). There you have it.

Jews, Masons, Mormons are all doubleminded. They pretend to be holy and pure. But just as Jesus warned, these doubleminded characters are devious, Judas-like backstabbers whose infamy will eventually come out.

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This being so, for whom, then, should we vote for the high office of President of the United States? Obama is a socialist, even a closet communist, but his evil pales in comparison to that of the duplicitous Romney. Frankly, I prefer four more years under Obama than eight years under Romney. But I do not intend to vote for either Romney or Obama. Why give either man your support and endorsement? Better to spend your time and energy equipping and preparing yourself for hard times surely to come. And pray, yes, especially pray for yourself, your loved ones, and for America. Whoever wins, Obama or Romney, we, the people, will lose.

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[Transcript] Season 1, Episode 2. Flashback Favourite – Supernatural

Supernatural came to an end in 2020. We look back at 15 years of the show and discuss why we loved it. Spoilers ahead for the finale of the show.

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Ron: Welcome to the second episode of Stereo Geeks! Today, we'll be talking about Supernatural. I'm Ron.

Mon: I'm Mon. In 2005, the world was introduced to Sam and Dean Winchester and their family business—hunting monsters. This year, in 2020, we said goodbye to the Winchester brothers and their lasting legacy. In this Flashback Favorite, we talk about Supernatural.

Mon: We’ll be discussing the entire series, including its finale, so there will be spoilers ahead.

Ron: We didn't we didn't start watching Supernatural in 2005.

Mon: No, I was too scared of horror stuff, so I refused to watch Supernatural

Ron: But I do remember us seeing the ads. I was quite intrigued. We eventually started watching it around the third or fourth season?

Mon: Yeah. I think it was after Mark Shepard attended the first Comic Con in Dubai.

Ron: That was in 2012.

Mon: He talked about it. And then we started following the show in earnest.

Ron: And then we went back to the first season and started watching it again. And yeah, it was quite the experience!

Mon: It's draws you in, especially with the dynamic between Sam and Dean Winchester.

Ron: Yes, the two brothers are similar in many ways to us.

Mon: Yes, I think so.

Ron: They're sweet. They're funny. They're sarcastic. They get into trouble a lot. But they always come back for each other.

Mon: And I like how it's always the little moments, which I like the most about their character dynamic. And the way they fight with each other. They get angry but then they have their backs, supporting each other at every turn.

Ron: That's exactly how you and I are. We fight. We get angry with each other. And then there's just a reason for us to come back together.

Mon: Absolutely. The show has been problematic at times and has a lot of issues. And we will touch on some of that in this episode. But honestly, it's really that central dynamic that keeps us coming back.

Ron: It's not just Dean and Sam that carry the show. We also see them grow their family. In the sense that they bring in Crowley, who is, for a long time, the King of Hell. Castiel joins them in season four, and he becomes an integral part of the show. He also becomes their family.

Mon: He's like a third brother.

Ron: He is a third brother. But, as we learn, he feels a lot more than that.

Mon: What do we enjoy about Supernatural the most?

Ron: Sam and Dean! Well, I like the fact that when we first started watching the ads for the show, we had very clear divide. I very much liked Sam, and you were very drawn to Dean.

Mon: I liked Dean because he’s snarky.

Ron: I liked Sam's sweetness. He was very sweet. He still is very sweet. He's also very much a younger brother.

Mon: He always needs to be protected and taken care of. But he's always very earnest. He's more responsible.

Ron: And he has a particular way of doing things. Whereas Dean is very much ‘let's just go and do something’. And sometimes, he doesn't plan. But Sam is very booksmart.

Mon: He's very meticulous. He's very organized. Dean is much more of the doer.

Ron: Sam is the researcher. And I am the researcher.

Mon: Yeah, I do.

Ron: You do things, I research things. So, that's definitely one of the biggest draws, that we saw parts of our personality in these two characters. But it was also the stories.

Mon: Yeah, it was very entertaining. We had so many different kinds of creatures from myths and legends. I would say I preferred when there were mostly vampires and werewolves. When the show really went into the biblical stuff? I've always struggled with it.

Ron: I guess I agree with that, as well. I do like how they handled the biblical elements. Angels are dicks. Demons can be friends. Those are unexpected ways of handling these elements. I really enjoyed that.

Mon: I think they worked really hard to subvert some of the expectations of it being seen as a religious show. I remember seeing an interview or something a long time ago, where Jared Padalecki was saying, when he saw the script, it was talking about angels and demons. He said, Oh, my God, is this becoming a religious show. But it wasn't. It was still the same show, just different characters and creatures being added to it.

Ron: And they really expanded their roster. Initially, the main antagonists were demons, and I enjoyed the way they were bringing in that kind of mythos. But I like the other kinds of creatures that they brought in from around the world.

Mon: I think we learned more about their interpretation of djinns and other creatures who, you know, you really had research!

Ron: Yes, we don't know that much about all the other places outside of India. We do know some of the legends from the United States and from the UK. But it is good to see some elements from South America.

Mon: There was that episode with the Japanese ghost, remember? Who's tied to that beer or wine? That was a funny episode.

Ron: Ma Kali ends up in one episode, played by Rakesh Sharma, who is very cool. So yeah, that was fun. Not many Indian elements in the show, but still enough to for us to enjoy.

Ron: But we need to talk about the fact that the show was supposed to end in season five.

Mon: You can clearly tell the demarcation between when they had a full plan and when they went off the rails. Eric Kripke, the creator of the Supernatural, he had a five year plan, and it was supposed to end with Sam making a sacrifice and taking Lucifer down with him to hell, and essentially saving the world. However, the show was renewed for another season.

Ron: Which is usually good news!

Mon: Unfortunately, that means that Sammy came back and they had to come up with a whole new plan. And you can see how varied and inconsistent the stories and seasons are from that point on.

Ron: I think season six still works. They had soulless-Sam, which was a very interesting interpretation of the character. But season seven, you can that it was laboured.

Mon: I don't think anybody thought the Leviathan were interesting or scary creatures. And it was probably the most forgettable season, aside from maybe a few episodes here and there.

Ron: True. Dick Roman as a villain would have worked in 2020. The corporate douchebag definitely is a villain right now. In season seven? Not so much.

Mon: You're right. And he didn't have that kind of charisma. They didn't pad up that mythos. It really did that season a great disservice.

Ron: And remember, this is the season where Bobby died.

Mon: Oh, really?

Ron: Yes. He died at the hands of Dick Roman. When we look back at it now, Bobby, who was basically Sam and Dean's adoptive father, going down to somebody like Dick Roman is so unfair.

Mon: Oh, wow, that is unfair. And then we move on to other seasons, which honestly, they're a blur from eight to 15. They really are a blur. We had purgatory, that was an interesting the concept. I loved it. Dean being stuck in purgatory, fantastic concept, and him befriending a vampire, Benny? Dean, of all people, who hates anything which is not human, almost sacrificed himself to bring a vampire back to Earth. That was quite an arc for him.

Ron: It was a great way of changing the character. And it cemented Dean and Cas' relationship while they were in purgatory. Despite the fact that they were separated for a very long time, Cas comes back to him when Dean prays to him. It is a very beautiful moment. And now that we know how Cas felt. A lot of people have been pointing to that moment saying, this was one of the one of the earliest indications about how Cas really felt about him.

Mon: Actually, that does make sense. Because Cas bends every possible rule in the angel-rulebook to save Dean and Sam and the rest of the Winchester family.

Ron: Yes. Cas was obviously a rule follower for a very long time until he met Dean. And then his entire concept of what was good and bad completely changed and it's quite touching.

Ron: Of course, the show wasn't without its problematic moments.

Mon: In the early seasons of Supernatural, I have to argue that Dean may have come across as a creepy dude. Just because he has that sweet face and general charisma, and of course, he has a good heart. He would lie to a lot of the people he would meet to get his way.

Ron: I actually don't remember that. I'm kind of relieved that I don't.

Mon: He used to go around telling ladies that he was a producer or something. That is textbook, 101, creepy guy behavior.

Ron: The problematic elements that I was thinking about was the fact that they do not have enough people of color on the show.

Mon: Okay, we are talking about systemic problems.

Ron: And also, the ladies on the show almost always ended up dead.

Mon: They're all dead. We don't have any in the finale.

Ron: If you go back to the very first episode, not only did we lose Mary Winchester in the past, we also lose Jessica, Sam's girlfriend. Later, we lose Jo, and her mom, Ellen

Mon: They are fellow hunters and were series regulars for a while, but they died in a blaze of glory.

Ron: Later on, Charlie joined the show, played by Felicia Day. She was pretty much a little sister for them

Mon: Charlie was the first queer character of note on the show and she was a regular for several seasons

Ron: She was a great character. She brought out such a wonderful side to them. Made the brothers very protective. They were very friendly. They enjoyed having her around. She's so smart. so helpful and Then she died.

Mon: She got killed by the least-memorable characters on the show ever! It was an ignominious death because she was killed by Frankenstein's descendants. Let's not even go there.

Ron: Very unfortunate.

Mon: Apart from Charlie, there were very few queer characters on the show, in latter seasons. We did see a few more but they were never there for more than an episode.

Ron: Dean did pair up with a couple of hunters, who we learned during the duration of the episode, that they were a married couple. They were also two men of color. So, it was a bit surprising considering the show had been not very friendly with queer characters before.

Mon: They were downright homophobic time to time.

Ron: I have to agree with that. If you remember the Supernatural convention episode, where a pair of Sam and Dean cosplayers turn out to be a couple. Dean did not look happy.

Mon: Yeah, Dean was very homophobic in the earlier seasons. But I think he got over it.

Ron: I hope that that was a criticism from the fans that the show actually understood and they worked towards overcoming. But I feel like now, when we rewatch older seasons, there will be elements that will be a bit more jarring than when we first saw them.

Mon: I worry about watching a lot of stuff from a few years ago, simply because there are so many elements which may have been considered the norm, but right now would be horrible to watch.

Ron: The show tended to focus mostly on white, male characters.

Ron: If you look at the posters for last maybe seven or eight seasons, there were only white men.

Mon: There was Sam, Dean, Cas, and Crowley and then it changed to Sam, Dean, Cas, and Jack.

Ron: There was room to change that. But the show never seemed to take it.

Mon: I don't know if it was because they were just blinkered or they just didn't care. But they didn't try hard enough. We started seeing more characters of color among the extras, among the episode regulars but even then, we could probably count them on one hand.

Ron: Unfortunately, that's been a problem with not just Supernatural. A lot of the CW shows, and a lot of shows in general.

Mon: Especially genre shows.

Ron: They do skew very white and male.

Mon: All that being said, I think a lot of Supernatural fans love the dynamics and the character arcs. Which is why it's lasted 15 seasons. It has attracted fans from all over the world, across races and orientations, which is a testament to how hard they've tried to make it an entertaining show.

Ron: It's definitely entertaining. Mainly because Sam and Dean find new ways to get out of situations.

Mon: There's action, there's drama.

Ron: There's a lot of heart. And I think that's why people like the show so much. That's why we like the show.

Ron: A great story can attract people, but great characters keep them watching.

Ron: What are some of your favorite episodes?

Mon: I started with ‘Mystery Spot’. That was the first full fledged Supernatural episode that I watched. It was probably not the best introduction because it was hilarious. But it was a great introduction to the two characters, and the differences between Sam and Dean. Dean's antics and his many, many deaths in that episode were just too good. Sam's reaction to having to relive that particular day. Brilliant. Also, the final arc of the episode is Sam desperately trying to figure out a way to save Dean, which gave me an inkling into how interconnected and dependent there relationship was. And also that it was the first of many, many resurrections after.

Ron: ‘Mystery Spot’ is also one of my favorite episodes, it is absolutely hilarious. But another episode that was also very funny was ‘Yellow Fever’.

Mon: That episode, it's just too good.

Ron: Jensen Ackles kills that episode. He is so good.

Mon: That guy has so much range. He can be so emotional, so dramatic. And yet, so funny.

Ron: He has excellent comedic timing. My favorite moment is always going to be him finding that cat, and losing his mind screaming.

Mon: I cannot not laugh at that. Even now, just thinking about it is making me laugh. And he makes it work. He really makes those silly moments, that slapstick humor work.

Ron: What are the other ones that you like?

Mon: Something that I have always found interesting, especially in the latter half of the series, they've tried to shake things up a bit, do things which are unconventional.

Ron: One of the bolder and probably more successful choices they made was the ‘French Mistake’.

Mon: It’s the first time they went meta.

Ron: Apparently, they were quite concerned about how people would react to it. I have read some pieces about how ‘French Mistake’ doesn't work. But as fans of the show, ‘French Mistake’ definitely works!

Mon: Yes, I recall reading about Jared Padalecki talking about how when he and Jensen Ackles were called into the writers’ room, they were quite worried. And then they found out that this episode was going to be transporting Sam and Dean into the real world, where they will become Jensen and Jared. And it was basically a caricature of all these actors, they loved it, how the episode turned out, it was hilarious. It was funny. It was a joke-a minute. And it worked.

Ron: Everybody plays these really odd versions of themselves. Misha, is so good as this mousy outsider who doesn't quite fit in. It's brilliant. I definitely love that episode.

Mon: We have seen it so many times.

Ron: It's actually embarrassing, the amount of times we’ve seen it but I don't care because it makes me happy.

Mon: Two of the more unconventional episodes, which really shouldn't have worked, but are brilliant, and I would say the top two episodes in the entire series, and they are ‘Baby’ and ‘ScoobyNatural’.

Ron: ‘Baby’ is an episode where the entire story is told through the car's eyes. It's amazing.

Mon: The camerawork, the story itself. It's everything and they don't miss a beat. There's action in there, there's drama, there's bonding between the brothers. It's so beautifully played out because baby has been a character in the show for a very, very long time.

Ron: The season five finale did something similar. It made the story about how baby had seen Sam and Dean grow up. But this episode took it one step further by showing it from her point of view. And it was just so engaging. It is beautiful.

Mon: It was really beautiful, especially because sometimes a gimmick is just a gimmick. But this is not. This was a story seen from the point of view of an unconventional character but a very important character in the show.

Ron: And anybody who's watched the show from the very beginning will love this episode, because we love the car.

Mon: Yeah, that's for sure. And what about ‘ScoobyNatural’? When I heard about it. I was so scared.

Ron: I didn't want to watch this episode. We grew up watching Scooby Doo. We enjoyed the show, but it was very much a child’s show. We didn't think that we would actually engage with it as adults. And then ScoobyNatural came along, and we completely changed our mind.

Mon: I don't know how they made it work. It is so good. It has the ethos of Supernatural, but it maintains the tone and style of the original Scooby Doo cartoons. I think it's a testament to the fact that it's just entertainment. That's all that it is. And it still got those character moments, not just for Supernatural fans but for Scooby Doo fans. It was so good.

I love the fact that they were still able to include those silly little Scooby moments, like them running through the doors in the corridor, them getting scared by a ghost which is actually a human being. And the main story itself is in line with how Scooby Doo episodes used to be structured, but it still has the ethos of Supernatural.

Ron: The way they marry these two completely different shows, which are intended for different audiences, is just so incredible. And it's one of our favorites.

Mon: I can't imagine anyone who’s a fan of both the shows to go into that particular episode and not come out loving it. I was definitely worried about this very odd marriage of concepts. But while it was that, it was so entertaining.

Ron: I think our top five favorites from Supernatural are always going to be the most entertaining episodes and ‘ScoobyNatural’ has to be on that list because of that reason.

Mon: Well, let's talk about how confusing that finale was.

Mon: Well, a lot of people were confused by the ending of season 15, episode 19, because they had a little montage saying goodbye to all the characters who had appeared on the show. And Sam and Dean were basically riding off into the sunset.

Ron: It felt very much like a finale.

Mon: The boss fight had happened. Chuck was gone. Jack was God. What else did you need? But there was still one more episode. We were all confused. A lot of people on the internet were confused. You and I definitely were.

Ron: We actually had to Google it.

Mon: We were certain that we had got it wrong. Anyway, the next week, there was the actual finale, which started off as any other Supernatural episode. It began with the boys in the bunker, going through their daily routine, eating food, being silly, Dean finding a pie fest to enjoy some pie. And then they ran off to hunt some vampires. Everything was going just like the old days. And then Dean got impaled!

Ron: And you and I held hands and cried silently, because we could not believe it was happening.

Mon: So, this is how they set up the shot. You saw that giant nail sticking out of the pylon. And I was convinced, like most people, that yes, Dean is going to use that to impale the vampire so that Sam can cut off his head. And then when somebody did get impaled, I was like, yes, they caught the vampire. No, I was wrong. It was Dean who was impaled. And there was no getting out of it. It was such a shocking moment.

Ron: And we realized what had happened before Sam.

Ron: Because Sam didn't see that nail. So, he cuts off the last vampire's head, and he's just asking Dean to come along. And Dean can't, he's literally stuck.

Mon: Okay. I found that scene overlong, but it was literally made so that it would eke out our emotions along with the characters’ emotions.

Ron: I agree, because Dean's death speech would make a Bollywood film proud.

Mon: It lasted 15 minutes.

Ron: I think it was a very, very long scene. I was literally thinking to myself, how are you not dead yet?

Mon: He hasn't bled out. He hasn't gone ashen. That being said… the tears! It is a tearjerker.

Ron: There's a lot of emotion, on screen and off screen.

Mon: The restraint that the two actors showed as they delivered their lines was brilliant. But then when they finally… we're coming to the close of the scene, and the two of them, they touch heads, they hug each other, and then they really just let it go, let go of their emotions. Fantastic. It was a roller coaster ride.

Ron: Can I just say that Jared Padalecki has been astounding this season. From the very first episode of season 15, it feels like he's not actually acting, he's just there.

Mon: He's so natural. That scene where he’s half-sad, half-angry at Dean? That scene in the car when he's so furious at Dean for lying to him about Jack. Amazing. He should be given an Emmy just for that scene.

Ron: Because that kind of scene can be easily overacted. We have seen that kind of scene being overacted even on Supernatural. But everything is much more restrained. Much more organic this season. And especially the second half, which obviously had to be shot during the pandemic. You could see that they didn't have the kind of time or the luxury of reshooting sections. So they did their best when they had the opportunity.

Mon: I wonder if the break because of the pandemic also helped them reconnect with the characters and reconnect with their own talents, which is why the latter half just felt more natural?

Ron: I have to agree with that. In fact, I read that Jensen and Jared didn't actually get holidays for most of their run on Supernatural. So, the enforced break from the pandemic would have given them an opportunity to just reconnect with themselves.

Mon: I'm not surprised, actually. The schedules they have are insane on The CW.

Ron: So how did you feel seeing Dean die for good? Since Dean is your favorite?

Mon: Shocked! I couldn't believe it. No, seriously. You remember when the ads came on? And I was like, ‘no way did they kill Dean. No way!’ And I went on and on, because I was sure that this can't be happening.

Mon: My one argument would be that at one point, Sam says, ‘okay, we'll figure it out. We'll find a way to resurrect you’. And Dean says, ‘no, no more resurrections’. I feel like they needed a stronger line over there. Perhaps one that says there are no more resurrections anymore. Something to say that the world has reset. Because when you leave an opening, it seems really sad. And we'll get into why it seems even sadder that that if Sam had the option to go and resurrect him, why wouldn't he? So, I would argue that that's the only point where I really needed a stronger hand in the script.

Mon: But it still didn’t diminish the impact of what happened to Dean. He goes out exactly the way he thought he always would. In a fight, dead at a young age.

Ron: That is actually even sadder when you say it.

Mon: That's precisely what he says to Sammy, that this is how I was always meant to go.

Ron: Dean's trajectory was always going to be a young death. But it doesn't mean that that it doesn't hurt.

Mon: For sure, for sure. And I think because we were all expecting a happy ending and we will talk about the happy ending soon. We were all expecting a happy ending for these two brothers who have fought so hard for each other and for the world, that it comes as a real shock that the creators went for it. The world is cruel.

Ron: This is true. The world also goes on, no matter who you lose. I feel like this episode hits different because of the pandemic.

Ron: People have lost a lot of people. I don't think there's anybody who doesn't know somebody they've lost. We people who are gone now because of COVID. And everybody else is left behind. I think the finale was trying to tell us that people die. And the people who are left behind are grieving in their own way. But they don't have a choice.

Mon: And they go on with life, which is what we see Sam do. From the montage that we see, it seems obvious that Sam has lived a very full life. We can't know for sure whether it is a very happy life. We can just hope.

Ron: From what we see, Sam does have a happy life. It just has a Dean-shaped hole in it.

Mon: Well said. Who do you suppose Sam's wife is?

Ron: I don't know. I really, I really wanted to see who it was. You see a shape in the back when he's playing with baby Dean. But I couldn't tell who it was.

Mon: I feel like because they cast an extra with long dark hair, she has to be Eileen. I'll tell you why. When Sam gets a call on Dean's phone for another case, the person specifically says Donna mentioned that you can help. Which means that Donna is back alive, which means Eileen is alive. And we know that Eileen and Sam were together before she disappeared, thanks to Chuck. So, I think Sam and Eileen had a happy life together, had baby who becomes grown up Dean. But as you said, there's always going to be that Dean-shaped hole.

Ron:  And we know that Sam still misses Dean, because, well, he calls his son Dean. But he keeps the Impala. He does not drive the Impala. He leaves the bunker. And we see a much older Sam rip of the cover from the Impala. And when he sits inside, he is so full of sorrow and anger. And it's a great scene. It's so moving and all I could think was so many years have gone by and he still misses Dean. That is never going to change.

And I also like the fact that obviously, young Dean has been told stories about his lovely uncle. Because when Sam is on his deathbed, he is still holding on like Dean did. And young Dean then tells Sam the same thing that Sam told Dean so that he could go.

Mon: I think the episode was actually really good.

Ron: It's been very frustrating seeing what's been written on the internet about it.

Ron: I know people have different points of view about the show. The fandom is varied. The fandom has different reactions to it. There are a lot of people who stopped watching the show, understandably, after season five. It was a bit of a slog at times, but we hung on and this season finale, it rewards people who stayed throughout. Because there are a lot of moments in the last two episodes that call back to moments after season five.

Mon: One of the things that really worked for me with the finale, especially with Sam and Dean, their history really comes to the fore. The finale was a celebration of the central love story of this show, which is Sam and Dean and them being brothers for life, irrespective of how their lives actually turned out. The fact that Sam spent probably half his life without his brother, it is still a celebration of how much they loved each other, how much people in reality continue to love the people that they've lost.

We also have to remember that this finale was shot in the middle of a pandemic. There are going to be constraints, and you can see it. There is no way that the original finale, whatever storyline that they planned to go with, would have had such a limited cast of original characters.

Ron: Very true. There were also a few makeup moments that were very strange.

Mon: Let's be honest, Sam's old wigs were terrible.

Ron: And there was absolutely no makeup on his face.

Mon: It's like he grew old, but he didn't. Where can we get that superpower? That being said, Jared Padalecki, the way he held himself as an old man? Brilliant. He was trying so hard to make the lack of makeup work and the lack of a good wig really work for him, to show how many years had passed.

Ron: That scene in the Impala is the one with the bad wig and the no-makeup, but it still hurts when you see him so upset and still missing his brother.

Mon: What I feel is sometimes some people get so stuck in the technicalities of moments and scenes that they lose the bigger picture. We all want everything to be perfect. But if you're going to lose the essential message, the essential feeling, then maybe you’re missing the whole point of why this finale exists?

Ron: There were way too many people weighing in on the finale, making memes about the Impala going to heaven and not Cas. And I can't help but think, did you watch the finale?

Mon: I did not know people were doing that. They literally talk about Cas being Jack's right-hand man. He helped shape the new version of heaven. How are people not seeing that? And I understand some people's grievances. Let's briefly mention the Destiel moment from Episode 18 of this season. Cas and Dean are running away from Death. And the only way for them to survive is for Cas to sacrifice himself to the Empty.

Cas knows that the only way to successfully call the Empty, he has to be at his happiest moment. And he is the most happy when he confesses his true feelings for Dean. He says he loves him. So finally, after several seasons of the two of them making goo-goo eyes at each other, we know that Cas actually does romantically love Dean. And then he dies. And Dean doesn't react. Dean’s only reaction is that he starts crying, and he's alone, and he's despondent.

Ron: In my reading of the scene, Dean did react. He didn't tell Cas that he loved him. But his reaction when he lost Cas was unlike anything that we had seen Dean do before.

Mon: I couldn't agree more. If people want him to say, ‘I love you’, then, Dean has to accept that he's going to lose Cas forever, and he wasn't in the mood to do that at that time. But he does lose Cas. So, when we go back to the finale, and Bobby tells Dean that Cas has helped create a version of heaven which is actually heaven. Then, Dean makes this characteristic Dean-smirk because he's kind of saying to himself, yes, okay, Cas is alive, Cas is around, so yeah I get to meet him again. That's how it is. We don't get to see Cas in heaven, but no, Cas is there in heaven. I don't know what people are reading into the scene for them to think that Cas didn't make it there.

Ron: It was very, very frustrating.

Mon: I understand the frustration that they would have wanted to see more of the guys in heaven. Dean and Sam meeting these people who are their family, including Cas, Jack, their mom, their dad, I get it. But it was shot in the pandemic. We got a full-fledged season, a beautiful finale, which dragged a little bit, fine, but we got a finale, which does justice to the characters. And it hinted at what more we could expect for their lives in the future.

Ron: One of the things that I've been reading is that Andrew Dabb, who has been the showrunner since Eric Kripke left, he has been working very hard towards resolving some of the storylines from earlier seasons.

Mon: That makes sense. Because we do see a lot of characters returning in latter seasons. I guess that makes sense then.

Ron: Yes, that's what he's been doing. His idea for the finale seems to have been, we started Supernatural with the two brothers, we end it with the two brothers.

Mon: That moment when Dean has had a great ride in baby and she's on the bridge, he's just enjoying this beautiful scenery, and he just knows when his brother's behind him, and the look on Sam's face, and the body language that finally he’s got to be with Dean?

Ron: It's been what we’ve been waiting for, not just in the finale but the entire show, for the two of them to get their ending. The thing is that the two of them have been to heaven before. And it is very different. Heaven under Chuck was you reliving your favorite moment, which as we saw in 12 Monkeys recently, that’s not really anybody's idea of heaven. Tasting sushi for the first time is amazing, but tasting sushi for the first time for the hundredth time? That's not so great.

Mon: Everything loses its charm. With Jack's version of heaven, they're making new experiences for eternity. That's the best kind of happy ending that we could have thought of for the Winchester brothers. That is absolutely why this finale was good. Could the finale have been better? Of course, everything could be better! The whole show could be better! But this is what we got. And in a way, it's so sadly realistic. It's tragic. But they always intended it to be a happy ending.

Ron: Absolutely. And it has to be said, this is what happens to real people. Sam and Dean were able to continue living, despite going to hell, going to heaven, despite going to purgatory. The amount of times that they died and came back.

Mon: It was a joke by the end. It was rightfully a joke because there was no ending for them.

Ron: But we know why, it's because they were Chuck's favorite characters. But that also meant that they were Chuck's favorite marionettes. Freedom meant freedom to die, as well. And as difficult as that was for Sam to process, I think it is also a realistic approach that we probably needed in 2020. That was the best way to do it in 2020. Had it been the two of them growing old together, I think that's what the fans would have wanted, that would have been great to see.

Mon: We don't have to like it but I would just say it is a choice made by the creators. Ron: I think it was the right choice.

Mon: Let us know what you thought about the Supernatural finale and how you would have written, Sam and Dean's ending differently.

Ron: You can find us on Twitter @Stereo_Geeks. Or send us an email [email protected]

Ron: We hope you enjoyed this episode. And see you next week!

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[Continuum by Audionautix plays]

Transcription by Otter.ai and Ron.

#supernatural #supernatural finale #flashback #podcast #geeks #stereo geeks

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♡ ˙      ben  barnes ,  he / him ,  thirty - seven      /       𝐒𝐀𝐌  𝐖𝐈𝐍𝐂𝐇𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐑  has  been  displaced !      originally  from  𝚂𝚄𝙿𝙴𝚁𝙽𝙰𝚃𝚄𝚁𝙰𝙻 ,  he / they  has  found  themselves  in  new  york  city ,  without  their  memories .    they’re  currently  working  as  a  lawyer   &   tend  to  come  across  as  EMPATHETIC,  SELFLESS ,  but  also  STUBBORN   &   UNORTHODOX .     we’ll  see  if  their   𝒔𝒄𝒂𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒅  𝒃𝒐𝒐𝒌𝒔  𝒇𝒊𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅  𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉  𝒅𝒆𝒂𝒅  𝒍𝒂𝒏𝒈𝒖𝒈𝒆𝒔   &   𝒉𝒆𝒍𝒅  𝒕𝒐𝒈𝒆𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓  𝒃𝒚  𝒃𝒓𝒐𝒌𝒆𝒏  𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒏𝒆𝒔 ,  𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒈𝒐𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒏  𝒃𝒍𝒐𝒐𝒅  𝒏𝒐𝒘  𝒅𝒓𝒚𝒊𝒏𝒈  𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓  𝒄𝒉𝒂𝒑𝒑𝒆𝒅  𝒍𝒊𝒑𝒔 ,   &   𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒏  𝒇𝒍𝒂𝒏𝒏𝒆𝒍  𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒄𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈  𝒕𝒉𝒆  𝒔��𝒂𝒅𝒆𝒔  𝒐𝒇  𝒂𝒖𝒕𝒖𝒎𝒏  𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒗𝒆𝒔   personality  will  be  their  downfall  or  their  saving  grace  in  these  streets .      /       link ,  24 ,  they / them ,  est . 

𝐐𝐔𝐈𝐂𝐊  𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐓𝐒  .

full name :     samuel   william  “sam”  winchester . aliases :   sammy .  lucifer’s  perfect  vessel .   the  boy  with  the  demon  blood .   the  boy  king  of  hell .   abomination .   moose . age :  thirty  seven . gender & pronouns :   demi  guy ,  he / they . sexual & romantic orientation :    bisexual / biromantic . species :   human  ( demon  blood  induced  physic ) . star  sign :   taurus . identifying  marks :    a  long  scar  over  his  left  palm .   fantastic  hair .

𝐂𝐀𝐍𝐎𝐍 .

i  am  just .   linking  his  wiki .

the  gist  of  it  all  is :    sam’s  father  trained  both  him   &   his  older  brother  dean  to  hunt  the  supernatural  because  of  his  revenge  fueled  obsession  to  find  the  demon  that  killed  their  mother .    though  they  do  eventually  kill  the  demon ,  that’s  hardly  the  end  for  their  story  as  the  brothers  find  that  themselves  as  pawns  in  the  grand  scheme  of  things  as  the  apocalypse  begins  to  set  into  place .   by  refusing  to  play  the  roles  fate  seemed  desperate  to  give  them  they  managed  to  stop  the  end  of  the  world ,  only  to  have  another  worldly  threat  looming  after  it .    &  another .    &   another .    the  two  of  them  stop  apocalypse  after  apocalypse  with  the  help  of  their  angel  best  friend , castiel ,  until  they  realize  they’ve  been  simply  characters  in  a  story  written  by  the  creator  of  all  things :   god .    wanting  to  control  their  own  lives ,  the  two  take  down  god  himself  so  they  can ,  finally ,  have  full  free  will  over  their  lives .

𝐍𝐄𝐖 𝐘𝐎𝐑𝐊 .

son  of  john   &   mary  winchester .   grew  up  a  native  new  yorker  with  his  older  brother  dean  winchester .

has  since  childhood  suffered  from  chronic  nightmares  which  causes  him  to  be  quite  the  insomniac .    he  was  taken  to  a  specialist  as  a  child   &   has  been  seeing  one  since .    though  he  has  medication ,  he’s  not  always  the  best  at  keeping  up  with  it .

sam  hates  his  dad !    the  man  was  obsessive  &  unkind  to  he   &   dean  but  where  dean  always  vouched  for  the  man   &   silently  obeyed   ( if  only  to  keep  the  peace )  sam  couldn’t  stand  his  father   &   the  dictator  control  he  seemed  to  want  on  their  lives .   sam  would  lash  out   &   got  into  many  fights  with  him .

sam  saw  dean  as  a  primary  caretaker  of  himself  over  their  father .

he  tried  to  run  away  on  more  than  one  occasion  while  growing  up ,  staying  away  from  his  home  for  a  day  up  to  a  full  two  weeks .   however ,  guilt  for  leaving  dean  would  always  bring  him  back .

at  age  17 ,  sam  was  accepted  to  college  in  california  &  he  finally  ran  away  for  good .   while  his  father  &  dean  were  gone ,  sam  hurried  to  pack  away  anything  he  deemed  necessary  into  his  car   &   he  took  off  across  country  without  so  much  as  a  goodbye  note .

the  first  year  or  two  at  college  sam  kept  no  connection  with  his  family ,  having  no  want  to  talk  to  his  father   &   terrified  that  his  brother  hated  him  for  what  he’d  done ,  but  eventually  he  managed  to  call  dean .    though  it  was  a  rocky  reconnection  at  first ,  sam  eventually  made  an  effort  to  call  dean  a  handful  of  times  in  a  year .   in  the  meantime ,  he  would  also  send  post  cards  from  california .

sam  got  a  full  ride  to  standford   &   graduated  as  one  of  the  top  students  of  his  class .

after  his  graduation ,  nine  years  after  his  big  run  away ,  sam  returned  to  new  york  in  hopes  to  start  a  practice  where  he  intended  to  specalize  in  family  law  in  hopes  of  helping  kids  like  himself  get  out  of  bad  situations .

nearly  ten  years  later ,  winchester  family  law  is  a  fairly  respected  practice  in  the  city .    he’s  no  big  name  lawyer ,  but  he’s  doing  fairly  well  for  himself .

though  he  has  reconnected  with  dean ,  sam  hasn’t  even  bothered  to  visit  his  father  in  the  near  ten  years  he’s  returned .   the  only  reason  he’s  possibly  seen  the  man  at  all  is  because  of  the  fact  dean  lives  with  him .

is  aware  his  father  is  sick  but  also  simply  is  trying  to  ignore  any  complicated  feelings  on  the  matter  by  drowning  it  out  in  the  hate  he  has  for  his  father .    even  if  he’s  on  his  death  bed ,  sam  refuses  to  forgive  the  man .

and  his  refusal  to  forgive  him  is  only  going  to  worsen  if / when  his  memories  come  back .

𝐎𝐓𝐇𝐄𝐑 𝐈𝐍𝐅𝐎𝐑𝐌𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍 .

uh  he / they  sam  rights .   bi  sam  rights .    i  think  sam  had  a  girlfriend  at  the  start  of  college  but  a  boyfriend  sometime  at  the  end .   we  stan .

i  think  spn  stopped  caring  about  sam  much  after  season  like .   8 .    and  stopped  giving  him  personality  so .    late  series  canon  things  i’m  going  to  include  into  how  i  play  sam  will  be  with  a  grain  of  salt .     some  of  it  i’ll  be  honest  i’m  just  going  to  flat  out  ignore .    like  forgiving  his  dad ?    let  sam  be  bitter ,  cowards .    let  him  hate  more  than  one  thing .    because  he  does  also  hate  lucifer .

i  do  think  it’s  hilarious  that  he’s  a  health  nut  bc  this  man  has  exactly  none  of  his  priorities  in  order .   will  draw  demonic  sigils  in  his  own  blood  then  turn  around  to  get  a  quinoa  smoothie  bowl  to  “stay  healthy :)”   

first  worst  thing  spn  deiced  to  do  with  sam’s  character  is  get  rid  of  his  sick  as  fuck  demonic  physic  powers .    and  with  really  no  reason  too ?     so  that’s  a  big  thing  i’m  ignoring .

sam  is  most  relaxed ,  in  my  opinion ,  when  he’s  being  off  the  charts  weird .    like  when  sam  is  being  a  freak  i  think  it’s  good  for  him .

i’ll  add  more  to  this  later  i  really  gotta  go  to  bed  tho .

#dphq:intro #sam: intro #this may be terrible but i wanted to get at least one intro up before i pass out #anyway peace out my eyes hurt!