#loki and trauma

[galaxythreads]

don't worry, all the abuse Odin put his kids through goes away because he had a throwaway line in thor 3 that he loved them and it magically fixed everything :)

#thor #loki #hela #odin's a+ parenting #thor and trauma #loki and trauma #hela and trauma #so done with odin right now #and in case this isn't clear i am being sarcastic

[rebecca--barnes]

Yes I’m obsessed with this man… what about it? :’)

#I mean how can you not be obsessed with this cutie! #he’s such a little guy #he must not be exposed to any form of trauma #he’s too pure for this #:’) #<3 #OB #ouroboros #ke huy quan #loki #loki season two #loki season 2 #tom hiddleston #owen wilson

[fayeisuppose]

I’m not a ‘I can fix him’ or ‘I can make him worse’ I’m a ‘I can stare at him in adoration as he commits several war crimes and murders a family of five’

#Jason Todd #lucifer morningstar #husk hazbin hotel #alastor hazbin hotel #prince zuko #loki laufeyson #like any angsty emo trauma riddled loser bottom

[lizwithfriz]

And the award for the most awkward and uncomfortable scene goes to:

#loki season two spoilers #loki season 2 #loki #lokius #marvel #trauma #awkward #marvel cinematic universe #mcu #lol

[nikkoliferous]

after reading the one hundred and one millionth inane quote about how Loki is such a pRiViLeGeD pRiNcE while Sylvie is just a poor baby who had no real childhood and had to learn to fend for herself from a young age, I feel the need to point out that even the ONE thing we know about Sylvie's past, the thing that's supposed to be her mAjOr tRaUmA and set her apart from him somehow, was literally stolen from Loki.

this is how Tom described Loki's experience post-suicide attempt back in the day while doing press for Avengers:

“I think he went, like with everything else, to a sort of… it was just like, the worst place imaginable. I think he went to all of the darkest recesses of the universe. I’m sure he had a brush with—several brushes with death. I think he ran into the shadiest characters you can find in the Nine Realms. I think he had to rely on his wits to protect himself. It was really, really, really unpleasant, I think. I don’t have any frame of reference for that, except for imagining what it might be like to be kidnapped by a terrorist or something and have to survive a very, very frightening and precarious existence. But whatever it was, it was important when Loki came back for The Avengers, that whatever compassion he had left was absolutely shriveled to a minimum because of the experience that he had. Harrowing, I think, and scarring for life—in a way that Thor and Odin and Frigga find very, very difficult to understand.” [source]

and now the show pretends that Loki teamed up with Thanos completely of his own will, even though Marvel had JUST confirmed that the sceptre was influencing him throughout Avengers, and they hand that traumatic backstory that was Loki's off to their precious OC.

#i'm so tired of talking about this stupid show #i really just want to forget it even exists #but i feel like this is an aspect of the show (and the narrative being pushed relentlessly in interviews) #that doesn't get talked about much if at all #we talk about her stealing his clothes and his spotlight and his history of trauma generally-speaking #but even the *specifics* of her trauma (that's allegedly soooo much worse than loki's!) #were literally copy/pasted from him #it's pathetic and insulting and i will evidently die mad about it #into the larryverse #loki (2021) #loki tv series #sylvie laufeydottir #mcu salt

[thank-you-my-friend]

I have a hunch that we will have a remake of this traumatic finale here at the end of the season...

#mobius #lokius #loki #time husbands #ineffible husbands #good omens #gay #husbands #tom hiddleston #owen wilson #loki 2 #loki 2x06 #go 2x06 #loki predictions #loki 2 finale #break up #lokius break up #evil finale #trauma

[shegeekery]

Reparenting Loki

I want to talk about a dynamic in the Loki/Mobius relationship (in the Loki TV-series) that I've seen touched on but not really discussed in depth.

Note to Lokius-lovers: nothing I say here in any way precludes a healthy romantic relationship. They're both consenting adults, after all, and this wasn't a formal therapist-client relationship.

There's a technique in therapy called "reparenting". The idea is that trauma and behaviors caused by bad parenting can be addressed to some extent if the therapist assumes the role of a "good parent".

I think we can all agree that the "All-Father" was crap as an actual father. Odin knew that Loki took after him even more than Thor did, but many of those shared traits were things that he tried to hide from everyone, while Thor better represented the image he wanted to project. The result was a cruel favoritism, which was picked up by Thor and the rest of the Asgardians. Frigga's love and support wasn't enough to counteract that cruelty, particularly in a strongly patriarchal society like Asgard.

Side note (because I'm that kind of geek): there were so many similarities between Odin and Loki (Odin's friend and blood-brother rather than his son) in the old Norse myths that some scholars have suggested that Loki was at one point simply an aspect of Odin. There's also evidence that the stories as they came down to us were manipulated by the Christians who committed them to writing to shoehorn Loki into something more like the Christian Devil.

Anyway, getting back to our guys... Within the context of the TVA, Mobius represented an authority figure to Loki, who had a long history of rebelling against (or betraying) authority for obvious reasons.

I think the first turning point in the relationship for Loki was:

Loki: I am smart!

Mobius: I know. Loki is rarely left speechless, but his only response to Mobius's simple affirmation was a very un-Loki-like "Okay..." He didn't know how to respond because he wasn't used to that kind of thing, particularly from someone who had power over him. It happened again with:

Loki: A villain.

Mobius: That's not how I see it.

The dynamic between these two people throughout Season 1 was like that. Mobius's genuine love (whether you read it as romantic, platonic, fatherly, brotherly, or a mix of any or all of these) for and non-judgmental acceptance of Loki was apparent from the start, but of course Loki's experiences during his very long lifetime made it nearly impossible for him to trust that until Mobius's actions convinced him that it was real. Learning to trust Mobius also allowed Loki to see himself in a new light.

For his part, Mobius consistently modeled what a good father would have been: loving and accepting, yes, but still able to apply "tough love" when that was warranted. Mobius didn't put Loki into the bad-memory loop to punish him because he was angry (though he was angry, or at least a bit hurt and disappointed). He was just trying to force Loki to acknowledge a truth about himself so that they could move forward — and it worked!

Mobius's instincts and experience as an actual father to two boys, one reasonably well-behaved and the other a mischievous troublemaker, served him well in this, even if he didn't consciously remember his life on the timeline.

Mobius all but confirmed this when he said:

Mobius:  I see a scared little boy, shivering in the cold... 

It's also significant that when Loki brought this up later, he called it "patronizing", which we usually use to mean "condescending", but can also mean "supporting" and has its root in the Latin word "pater" (father).

I see the hug in episode 1-5 as a sign that the reparenting had taken hold, and that Loki, while not completely healed (it would take a lot more than that!), was at least in a place where he could trust someone, accept love/friendship, and think beyond his own wants and needs.

By Season 2, the relationship between the two men was evolving into one of equals, but even then Loki still occasionally looked to Mobius for guidance. Mobius's approval had become important to him. When Loki witnessed the firm but compassionate way in which Don dealt with two boys who were so like himself and Thor (despite being a stressed-out single dad rather than a god-king with tremendous resources at his disposal), he had to have seen that this was at the core of who Mobius was. Moreover, Loki — and any viewers who had similarly survived a traumatic childhood full of emotional abuse and neglect — probably guessed that Don himself was a survivor who was determined to see to it that his boys would never have to deal with that. If that was the case, then Mobius didn't just see his own son in Loki. He saw himself and couldn't help but empathize.

Don wasn't perfect. His frustration with his younger son was very evident, but Loki, observing, could see the love that lay under it. He may even have thought of times when Odin was driven to anger by Loki's actions and realized that the anger didn't necessarily mean that Odin didn't really love him. Learning to forgive what can be forgiven is another aspect of recovering from childhood trauma.

It's worth remembering that Mobius knew Loki in much the same way we do. We got to see the things that Loki never let anybody see: the fear, the vulnerability, the pain, the longing, and the sadness. (Doesn't hurt that TH can turn a simple reaction shot into a freakin' soliloquy!) The difference is that, while we only get to see the highlights (and lowlights) of Loki's life, Mobius had access to all of it and he had centuries to study it.

Mobius literally knew Loki better than anyone else in (or out) of the multiverse. How could he not love him? And for Loki, knowing that somebody who knew him that well genuinely cared so much for him (same with Sylvie, who understood him in ways that only another Loki could and vice-versa) had to have shaken him to his core and made him rethink a lot of things. The fact that it was Mobius to whom Loki turned in episode 2.6 when he thought he might have to kill Sylvie shows how much he still looked up to Mobius in many ways.

This was a show about redemption, yes, but also about healing from childhood trauma. They did an amazing job with it.

#loki #loki laufeyson #loki series #loki mcu #reparenting #lokius #mobius #childhood trauma

[connorsnothereeither]

Much like Ulysses, genetically crafting creatures in the telchin lab, I too, diabolically spliced Ulysses together, using the elements of all the prime Tumblr Sexymen I could find /j

#ah yes some wonderful Victor Frankenstein here #and of course a dash of oncler… perhaps some essence of William Afton? can’t hurt I’m sure… #now Loki’s projected religious trauma… that’s tasty too I might nab that #oh and of course Herbert west reanimator a fabulous year vintage #plus he’s old as fuck which is always a bonus when it comes to these sorts of things #fablesmp #fable smp #fablesmp ulysses

[the-anastasia]

Colonized communities right now.

#everyone is bonding and it’s beautiful #shared trauma #check out Irishtwitter and Blacktwitter #black twitter #irish twitter #british colonialism #colonialism #colonization #intergenerational trauma #queen elizabeth dead #queen elizabeth ii #queen Elizabeth #the queen #loki #mcu loki

[bunnyofdarkness]

Loki Season 2 has hurt me in ways that I can't imagine. From Lokius to "Centuries" to the end. And I can't even share this trauma with my Mom because she hasn't watched it yet 😭

#loki series #lokius #come on mom let's trauma bond #loki #mobius

[jmmeredith]

Angraboda

I have always been drawn to the Jotuns of the Norse pantheon. I think their dark, primordial nature appeals to my trauma. There is something awe inspiring and commanding in these forces.

I worked with Angraboda a couple years before she would let me paint her. She didn’t want to reveal herself to me. I listened to a Slipknot album while painting her.

Mother of Wolves and Monsters.

Consort of Loki.

Cheiftess of the Ironwood.

When she comes near she brings fear. Fear that if I want to grow into my most authentic self then I must face the secrets of these dark spaces.

#norse paganism #paganism #pagan witch #druid #witch community #witchblr #dark goddess #goddess art #writeblr #art #artists on tumblr #jotunn #jotun loki #loki #norse mythology #norse gods #trauma writing #norse heathen #norse pantheon #heathenry #heathenism #heathen art #art on tumblr #art of the day #art of mine #me af

[galaxythreads]

The fact that thanos is looking loki right in the eye as he puts the power stone to Thor's head like. "Come on idiot I know ur full of shit and don't want me to do this"

Thanos: I'm going to kill your brother, you good with that?

Loki: Absolutely

Thanos: *Starts to kill Thor*

Loki: --NOT. ABSOLUTELY NOT. YOU DIDN'T LET ME FINISH

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i know you're trying to make a joke, but like. Bro. I could go on for hours and hours about this scene and the implications of Loki's relationship with Thanos and break down as many details as humanly possible, but no one has asked that, so instead I'm just going to say this:

Thanos was completely aware that Loki was full of crap and just wanted to do it anyway

Thanos looked at loki and grinned as he tortured Thor, completely aware of the emotional bond between the two of them. He just wanted to do it anyway.

Loki didn't look at Thanos the entire time he looked at Thor. The only time that Loki looks away from Thanos in his scenes in IW is when he looks at Thor, but this is the first time that Loki looks away from Thanos in the scene and it shows a shift in his priorities -- stopping Thanos from hurting him to Thor. Thanos watched this and kept doing it anyway because he wanted to.

Behind Loki, the Black Order is grinning/smiling. This is a familiar scene to them: Loki begging Thanos to stop hurting him and being unable to. Makes you wonder how much of the torture Thanos inflicted was public and/or with the help of the Black Order. Loki barely seems aware of them at all, like this is something he's dealt with forever.

Thanos could have beaten it out of Loki. He could have grabbed any random Asgardian and it would have been just as effective. Thanos singled out Thor and he tortured Thor because he wanted to and he wanted to see Loki crumple.

Thanos just wanted to do this.

#thanos #loki #thanos and loki #loki and trauma #thor #iw #answered #anon

[demis-alted]

loki tv show

i want, so bad, at any given point, for mobius to carry loki. in the gay way works, in the not gay also works. This could be lokius or not lokius but i just

.

i need it so much, man. Loki deserves the soft compassion of being carried like a child because he never was a child. And like. Grrr. He had a shit childhood, and hes still canonically in his 20's like, 21-24 range in midgardian years. (Some people say hed be more like 17 but i believe thats less true but im dumb so, take with several grains of salt)

Thats pretty fucking young to "die" two or three times! Thats pretty young to loose both your parents, find out you were kidnapped as a baby and deal with everything else! and loki was raised as a prince. Hes shown to have been butting heads with thor always, especially when it comes to the rights of the throne. and so, logically speaking,

he would be trying way too fucking hard, from way too early on, to try and beat someone to a throne he would never even be able to get! so hed just be trying and trying and trying forever for nothing! do ya think theres time for childhood despite that?

HELL FUCKING NAH. he thinks grapes and nuts are desserts! This man, has no sense of what it means to be a kid. He thinks trust is exclusively for children, he said that!

i sincerely doubt, loki has been held, like properly held, in a thousand years! Witch is most of his life considering he's ball-parking 1057-1070 years old!

he needs to be held. He needs to be shown the warmth and compassion that one would give to a child. To someone that they really fucking adore.

he needs to be held by mobius, thank you and goodnight.

#loki #loki season 2 #lokius #loki season two #rant post #daddy issues #mommy issues #trauma

[primewritessmut]

tfw you think you’re writing a cute little romcom but have to add tags like “have your therapist on speed dial for this one” and “masterclass in manipulation” on the next two chapters

#really truly sorry for what the next chapter is about to rain down on y’all #midori sour #fic writer #i guess my core of sweetness and light has been compromised #probably by childhood trauma #just like loki

[textsfromthetva]

#Classic and Boastful are confused as to who in this world *hasn't* stabbed their sibling with a fork #thus making the club obsolete #meanwhile Kid Loki is like 'I literally killed Thor with a fork but go off I guess' #'way to make light of my trauma you bitch' #Loki #Classic Loki #Boastful Loki #Kid Loki #Loki series #MCU #Loki memes #lokiedit #texts from last night

[worstloki]

Tony: I really don't like this whole ‘good guy, bad guy’ routine you guys have going on. Creeps me out. Thor: It is not an act. I am loud and Loki is not Tony: Not in my experience

#Tony having bad memories and the whole trauma bundle about everyone being attacked by a greater force #is actually SO funny when combined with Loki staying at the tower AUs I think #like bro Loki absolutely IS someone who contributed to this trauma #and it's even funnier if you consider that Loki reverting to Normal Behaviour while Thor stays himself is just #such a throw off compared to what the Avengers witnessed at first contact #like yeah Thor can be a polite puppy. he usually isn't tho like you have to understand that #Loki doing his best Thor bloodlust impression for the invasion and then going back to being normal flavoured with some severe angst issues #peak comedy #Loki would lay on the floor for 14 hours feeling numb about life and Thor would boldly declare table manners useless and put his feet up