#lo olympus

[batatinha-mimimi]

SPOILER LO FP 262.

I'm kinda scared where this story is going...

#lo olympus #lo critical

[genericpuff]

LORE | REKINDLED EPISODE 47 - A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE

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A bit more of a chill episode after all the drama of the last few. Well, chill for everyone else but Alex. Poor guy.

Just a heads up that I'm a week away from the beginning of CONVENTION SEASON! I'm about to get even busier than usual, with a bunch of back-to-back conventions and expo's to attend, both for artist alleys as well as tattooing. I'm gonna try and keep Rekindled updated on its usual schedule as best I can, but if anything changes with the release schedule I'll let y'all know as best I can 🥰 Thank you all for reading!

#lore rekindled #lore rekindled update #lore rekindled comic #lore olympus au #lore olympus rewrite #lo critical #anti lore olympus #lore olympus critical

[reedraws]

Finally started reading Lore Olympus and I had to redraw that panel in episode 2 because her expression bothered me so much lol

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#art #myart #digital art #lore olympus #persephone #lo persephone #lore olympus redesign #lore olympus fanart #fanart #i dont know if i'll keep reading for long but god...this one panel #i had to do something

[mythsandheather]

When the super problematic creator + their equally nasty project that’s stuffed with toxic messages, weird kinks and bad writing that you’ve been aware of for years finally starts getting open criticism on mass and you can finally voice your own frustrations and experiences without the fear of rampant harpy stans trying to hunt you for sport

#lo critical #lore olympus critical #lo criticism #anti lore olympus #anti lo #hazbin hotel critical #anti hazbin hotel #anti helluva boss #anti vivziepop #it has been so long #y’all don’t even know 😭

[vixxelle]

Lore Olympus is like if you put Greek Mythology in a pan, mixed it with your average Melanie Martinez songs, 13 Reasons Why, Euphoria, Twilight, and Riverdale; then burn it in the Wattpad Baker 1000, and try to cover up the absolute burnt monstrosity with one of those artificial pink frosting that tastes like battery acid and piss.

#raye rambles #lore olympus criticism #lore olympus #lore olympus critical #anti lore olympus #lo critical #lo criticism #anti lo #man I fucking hate this webtoon

[demeterdefence]

even ignoring everything else wrong with lore olympus (which in itself feels impossible) there is just something really egregious and insulting at the way a "modern retelling" over an ancient greek myth just full-heartedly whitewashes the entire culture and mythos.

and it's not like rachel is the first to do it - greek myths and legends have been whitewashed for centuries, depictions of the gods have been categorically stripped of their ethnicity and origins long before rachel got a hold of them. it's the fact that rachel goes out of her way to insult the original myths whenever she can, that she emphasizes and pushes a western-centric mindset and viewpoint over and over and over and not only reinforces the whitewashing, but continues it down the line.

like, this is the first episode.

rachel goes out of her way to mock the original styles and wardrobes of the ancient greek world, and i get her attempt was to make persephone feel "out of place" with the more "modern" clothing that the other gods wear, but it really just does more to a) demonize demeter, who is almost always in traditional clothing, b) sexualize persephone.

go even broader with it, move away from the clothing itself, and rachel doesn't even bother to use any of the ancient traditions that are core to the myths. like for the love of god, she uses a christian wedding for persephone and hades!

greece is the birthplace of modern democracy and had a powerful judicial system, and rachel instead uses the modern / western iteration of court because ... why not

(completely unrelated but the inserts of everyone except eros and aphrodite come from the stupid zoom session zeus had back when he first charged persephone with treason, meaning we have proof yet again that rachel isn't drawing the characters into the scene, she's making pngs and sticking them into pre-arranged backgrounds downloaded from stock images)

and there are ten thousand more examples i could pull, because this is just the whole entire comic. you can look at a lot of modern adaptions and see where things have been modernized respectfully, and where they are done with disdain for the source material - no one is claiming percy jackson, for example, is perfect, but the author took a great deal of care in his research, and the love for the original myths and culture shine through. lore olympus has zero respect for the original stories, exemplified in how rachel demonizes demeter - the actual crux of the myth. it's bad writing and bad research and further attempts to whitewash a rich and storied culture that had people from so many walks of life, who existed in full spectrum of lgbt identity, who did not conform or even know of the world that exists today. you can modernize without erasing it, and rachel's refusal to do so is one of the many issues tacked to lore olympus.

#anti lo #anti lore olympus #i didn't grab the best screencaps bc there was literally so many to choose from lmao #but the wedding always bothered me SO much #ur in ancient greece!!! why are u doing this!!! #like i don't think it's wrong per SAY to have phones or tech in a story about ancient cultures #provided you explain how / why they're there #but of course there is ZERO world building in lore olympus

[duxwriter]

And when she awakens from her wrath, to the world she screams, soaked in red

Inspired by the latest episodes of Lore Rekindled

#artwork #lore olympus edit #lore olympus critical #lo persephone #anti lore olympus #lore olympus persephone

[porcelain-rob0t]

LO persephone redesign bc i love making fun of this comic so like what if she was a silly nature-loving hippie girl

i just feel like the clothing she wears isnt consistent with a nature goddess, especially as a free-spirited college girl (also can she wear literally anything other than white or is the good girl in white x bad boy in black thing too important)

#digital art #art #my art #persephone #lo critical #lore olympus critical #lore olympus redesign

[clown-cult]

Imagine ignoring and villianising the original feminist hero in favour of a straight love story 💀

#my content #my art #Demeter #greek myth #greek mythology #greek gods #hellenism #hellenistic #hellenic polytheism #we love lady Demeter #we adore lady Demeter #she is a good mother who loves her daughter so much #anti lore olympus #anti lo #anti neon gods #anti touch of darkness #tw: blood

[madnessandentropy]

If you say a healthy relationship where the characters respect each other and are an equal level is "boring" you are an instant red flag to me, because every person who says this turns out to be a piece of shit that glorifies abuse and, if they are a creator, generally suck at storytelling as well

EDIT: Just to clarify I don't mean you can't enjoy toxic ships. I didn't get it across well, but what I'm talking about is fans who ignore blatant abuse and try paint it as a "spicy romance" and dismissing healthier ships/couples as "boring and vanilla". If you refuse to acknowledge a relationship is toxic and instead glorify/romanticise it while saying actually healthy ships are too boring then you are in fact a red flag

#thoughts #this applies to so many damn fandoms #vivziepop critical #helluva boss critical #hazbin hotel critical #spop critical #spop critisism #anti catradora #anti spop #lo criticism #lo critical #lore olympus critical #anti lore olympus

[batatinha-mimimi]

Here are some drawings I made a while ago, for the OCs challenge on the ULO subreddit, but I didn't post them because I only managed to finish them when it was already finished.

As it allowed me to take characters from the original Greek mythology, I took the great Typhon. ( •̀ ω •́ )✧

The last drawing was the most recent one I made of him.

I plan on making a colorful version one of these days, but I think I'll redesign it first. But, his colors I imagine as: Gray and rocky skin, eyes bright like lava (like Gaia's design when she was first mentioned), his tongue also made of lava. His hair is not hair. It is a mixture of smoke and ash, which he can control the density of; When he is asleep, his eyes go out and smoke stops coming out, like a dormant volcano.

I've already written a lore for him, but I'm not going to put it in yet because maybe I will change something.

The last three drawings are the most recent, with a height scale done in a very lazy way.

#oc #oc art #typhon #greek mythology #my art #oc lore olympus #oc lo #lo olympus

[genericpuff]

LORE | REKINDLED EPISODE 46 - STAY AWAY FROM HER

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No no you're totally a great guy Hades- 💀

Thank you all so much for reading! It's my birthday today, and I couldn't ask for a better community to spend it with <3

#lore rekindled #lore rekindled update #lore rekindled comic #lore olympus rewrite #lore olympus redraw #lore olympus redesign #lore olympus critical #anti lore olympus #lo critical

[carcinogenical]

Minthe fanart because she is the only character that isn't annoying AF in lore olympus . I am pro evil slut . Go away Rachel Smythe

#lore olympus #anti lore olympus #minthe #cinoart #lo critical

[nymphsupremacy]

Iasion knows how much Demeter suffered.

#lore olympus #lo #lore olympus demeter #lore olympus fanart #god i really do love drawing Iasion #pretty lad #give demeter her male wife #lore olympus redesign #this would be during her banishment

[moony-2001]

The real-world impact of Lore Olympus

i.e. do your research Rachel

Trigger warning: racism, fetishization, appropriation, mentions of SA

Long post ahead

A while ago, someone told me that Lore Olympus was just a silly little comic written out of boredom. That it was made to be "funny". They told me that "[I] can't hope [for] an extremely [well-written] story when it was just made with the intention to make something goofy" and that if Rachel actually wanted to make something serious like I had, she would write a book and not a comic.

At the time of this exchange, it was past 1 a.m. and I was exhausted. I did not want to argue with this person and it simply wasn't worth my time or energy in the moment.

But looking back at that (mostly one-sided) interaction, I can't help but think that there is so much wrong with that point of view. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion about Lore Olympus, whether good or bad. But Lore Olympus isn't just some silly little nothing comic about nothing important. It is a comic that actively appropriates and erases Greek Culture. It is a comic that has no respect for the actual stories that have been passed down over thousands of years whether by word of mouth or written text. It is a comic that perpetuates a false narrative and harmful stereotypes about characters or certain groups of people. So, no, it's not just a silly little comic.

Incorrect information

Here’s an example of what I mean:

When I was doing research for my post about the 10 year time skip, I looked up Leuce to reconfirm the little information I knew about her. Wanna guess the first thing that popped up about her?

A Lore Olympus Wiki article.

Okay. How about Minthe? Hundreds of pictures of her from Lore Olympus and a LO Wiki article as one of the top 3 results. Both character are horribly represented in LO and unfortunately there isn’t really any documented stories or records that can refute how LO paints them. Because of this, other characters in Greek Mythology like Leuce and Minthe, whose stories have little to no documentation, stand to suffer the most harm from deliberate misrepresentation on Rachel’s part.

Of course well-known and better documented figures in Greek mythology face slander as well. What about Thetis or Leto? How about Apollo? All of their portrayals in LO are HORRIBLE. I have seen people online absolutely drag them to filth not because they're upset about how the character is portrayed compared to their mythological counterpart, but because they have no knowledge of how they are actually portrayed outside of LO. They just assume that's how the characters are. Similarly, people who have either very little or no prior knowledge of Greek Mythology and Culture would look at the comic and go "Yep, sounds legit. It must be true." and go about thinking that what is portrayed in LO is accurate to what was transcribed thousands of years ago.

Creative interpretations and racism/fetishization within LO

Don’t get me wrong. Creative interpretations and artistic liberties can be great. When they’re done tastefully. I personally think if done correctly, a Greek myth spun in a modern way has the potential be very good. But that's not what we were given.

Characters like Minthe, Leuce, and Thetis (all nymphs btw) are portrayed as trashy tramps who put out and are used as a foil sabotage Persephone and/or her relationship with Hades. Compare that to Greek Mythology where in the Iliad, Thetis is very well-respected by the gods, particularly Hera. Unfortunately, other similar characters like satrys (and basically any character that isn’t a god) are usually portrayed as a low-class POC that can be easily exploited, manipulated, or used as a temporary villain/lover/pawn to “get back” at Persephone, our white-coded protagonist who can do no wrong.

Additionally, there is a clear race/class bias against characters like nymphs in LO. We see many cases scattered throughout the comic of gods like Hera or Aphrodite referring to nymphs as "trash" or "low class" or the idea that nymphs do not belong with gods being heavily implied if not outright said. I cannot tell you how often I've seen Minthe be called some variant of "cheap" by the readers of LO. Even Persephone (who created the flower nymphs) treats them with such disrespect. She frequently calls them some variant of "stupid" or "simple" like saying how they're not the sharpest crayons in the box even though she's the one WHO MADE THEM. However, it's so odd not really to note that nymphs like Echo, Amphitrite, or Psyche (who was previously disguised as a nymph) are not discriminated against. This is because they are liked or trusted by the gods they are around and ergo are often portrayed as the "good ones", which is a disgusting mindset to have.

We also see the fetishization of nymphs in the comic that is disturbingly similar to the fetishization of women who are Black, Asian, or Latina. It is a known fact that Hades has a flower nymph fetish. Not only is this implied in the comic, but Rachel stated it outright in an old Patreon post. Nymphs are also generally treated as sex-symbols, disposable, and as a lesser-than. Zeus frequently displays this behavior by abandoning nymphs he knocked up in the mortal realm.

For example, when Persephone finds out Apollo is dating Daphne, she isn't upset he's dating her friend. She's upset he's dating a flower nymph, beings that are generally considered to be "rare", "dumb", and objects of sexual desire. Ew.

Even on the Lore Olympus website (loreolympians.com) nymphs are regarded as "beautiful", "desirable", and "very exotic". And when they're not described in a sexual manner they're say it with me now regarded as "low class" or "workers" for some kind of god/goddess.

Final thoughts

So not only is the characterization of characters like Minthe or Thetis harmful to Greek culture and the stories that are so ingrained in their society, but it is also perpetuating harmful stereotypes about people of color and women who are confident in their sexuality.

Of course, the characters within Greek Mythology had their own issues. Zeus was a serial rapist, many of the goddesses deemed to be "feminist" by today's standards were actually horribly misogynistic looking at you Athena. But 1. that's just how things were back then (but that does not make it right) and 2. all of the good, the bad, and the ugly is still there in Greek Mythology. They're not denying how fucked up it is, but they're also not changing their history to better fit their own narrative or the narrative of the modern world. It exists, it happened, but now it is studied and called out by historians.

Rachel, on the other hand, is doing exactly that. She is actively changing the Greek's cultural history to better fit her fic's narrative. She is constantly sweeping things under the rug or going "No this is how it ACTUALLY happened". Lore Olympus is marketed as a "feminist retelling" yet somehow, it takes allllll the ugly parts from Greek Mythology (rape, incest, problematic age gaps, dubious consent, etc.), mixes it with a majority of the issues we have in the modern world (white feminism, rape-apologists/rape culture, grooming, fetishization of certain minority groups, etc.) and then amplifies the concoction to 20. Lore Olympus cannot be a "progressive, feminist, retelling" and also have characters that are morally apprehensive/come straight from the ancient myths. It does not work. In fact, IMO it makes all the problems from both eras worse.

News flash: actual cultures that are still thriving today are not your toys. They are not "made up". They matter. Do better.

#anti lore olympus #lore olympus #anti lo persephone #anti lo #lore olympus criticism #lore olympus critical #lo critic #lo critical #unpopular lo #unpopular lore olympus #appropriation #greek mythology #if anyone who is actually Greek wants to comment on this or share their thoughts please feel free #I'm not Greek but I have a deep love for mythology/Greek culture so this is just my take on things

[the-weekly-nark]

Minthe will forever be the original!

The last pic is by @anoldplace, who noticed that Persephone dresses like Minthe. Their post inspired me to look for more parallels and wow there’s a lot.

#lore olympus #lore olympus critical #anti lore olympus #lore olympus criticism #lore olympus hades #lore olympus persephone #lore olympus minthe #minthe lore olympus #lo minthe #lo persephone #lo hades #lo critical #lo criticism #webtoon #rachel smythe #unpopular lore olympus