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#like most of the characters I care about this much it’s Bc they’ve got a story that’s interesting but... Ciel is just a friend......
lunarrumor · 2 months
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random valgrace headcanons
- leo cooks for jason all the time because he likes it (it reminds him of his mom and when she taught him how to make his favorite dishes) and his love language is most definitely gift giving because he’s not so good with words
- but one day leo was up all night working on some new machine (again) and jason decides he wants to give him a break so he tries to make some simple pasta. butttt they didn’t really have cooking lessons at camp jupiter and the water overflows and he burns the sauce and when leo gets back jason’s hair is mysteriously red and the kitchen looks like something exploded (it did. the sauce bubbled up and went everywhere)
- however they go camping together once and leo makes a fire and by the time he gets back from going to use the restroom jason has caught a wild bird and is frying it up
- leo makes jason random little trinkets all the time
- when leo and jason are having meals with the seven + reyna and nico they’ll tap messages to each other back and forth in morse code until annabeth gets annoyed by all the banging
- leo loves horror movies and jason hate hate hates them
- when jason gets drunk he likes using a lot of big words except he’s too drunk to use them correctly so he just hopes no one notices (leo does but doesn’t mention it…. without fail he’ll look at him and go “how r u so smart even when so drunk” and jason will give him a dopey smile)
- they go to college in new rome together and visit piper at her mortal school all the time
- they also got an apartment together because yeaa it might be moving fast but they totally didn’t move in together because they’re soulmates or whatever. naaaa it would js be silly not to right ? they shouldn’t *both* be paying rent when they’re gonna be at the same place *anywayss* and jason doesn’t cook and leo doesn’t clean so really it’s just a responsible roommate setup rigggght (aka the lie they tell themselves bc they really js wanna have the security of seeing each other everyday and live a wholesome life where they don’t have to worry if the next time they visit the other they’re not gonna be there anymore)
- but they’re both still worried to ruin the relationship because it’s so new and they’ve been pining for so long so they get separate rooms. except leo is always crawling into jason’s bed at night or jason is playing a movie in leo’s while he works (leo’s barely paying attention but jason likes doing it so he can sneak him snacks because leo has a habit of forgetting to eat while working. and every so often leo will make a goofy joke about the movie n he gets so amazed by how smart n funny leo is. n leo likes the background noise and jason’s little snorts when a character is being dumb. and mostly he just likes his presence. how they can just sit in silence together and without leo having to say anything jason will know how much he cares. how much he appreciates jason caring about him)
- and eventually leo just stops going back to his room, unless he’s working on something, because he likes the smell of jason and waking up with him and bothering him while he does schoolwork. his things slowly start appearing in jason’s room until he’s basically moved in and one day he comes home to jason rummaging through his drawers and he’s like uhh ??? and jason’s like ah rats i was gna surprise you….. i cleared out my closet and got a dresser so that you don’t have to keep going back and forth and i can totally put it back if u don’t want that i just thought maybe you might want to because you haven’t rlly slept here in so long anyway and…. and leo kisses him n grabs the pile of clothes and carries it off to *their* room. and so leo’s old room becomes his new work space
- on this same vein leo will get so distracted while he’s working on a new project that he’ll forgot all about time and sometimes he’s doing this n jason comes in and tells him the time and he drops everything and makes dinner bc his stomach grumbling is fine but when he realizes jason probably hasn’t had a real meal since the last time he cooked now *thats* motivation
- of course jason doesn’t always need him to cook (in fact leo starts trying to teach him no matter how disastrous it is at first. i guess multitasking in battle doesn’t equate to handling the chaos of a kitchen ? but jason actually gets pretty good as long as he’s looking at a list of instructions) but leo just likes all the compliments he gets from jason about his food and how he’ll sit with him in the kitchen and come up behind him with his hands on his waist (jason gets really excited whenever leo asks him to do something like bring him some seasoning or a ladle because he likes being helpful)
- jason also started picking up food after his morning class and bringing leo breakfast because he is *not* a morning person. he’ll also order food when leo’s been cooped up in his room for some time and he knows he wants to keep working so jason brings his lil surprise in along with his laptop and they eat together (with jason making sure leo takes a bite every now n then and eats enough before it gets cold)
- jason wakes up at 6 am everyday to go to the gym, shower, and go to classes meanwhile leo doesn’t have class till 1 and even then he’s late sometimes. because as u could assume leo stays up late at night and jason has trouble staying up past midnight (he always falls asleep during their movie nights even though he tries his very hardest not to but leo is so toasty he just can’t help it. and leo always tucks him in and takes off his glasses)
- also neither of them like waking up alone on the couch in the middle of the night (which is fine when leo falls asleep first, jason just picks him up and carries him to bed. but leo isn’t exactly built for dragging 6 ft men across an apartment floor) so they get a pullout sofa for this exact reason (not a bed pullout couch. he would still have to lift jason off and jason is a heavyy sleeper. he had to sleep through a lot of chaos at camp jupiter. they get one of those couches that extends into more couch and pile a bunch of blankets on it for movie nights. and leo makes popcorn with an ungodly amount of butter)
- leo runs warm and when his emotions spike his powers act up so he stress sweats and everytime it happens jason will cool him off with a nice breeze
- on the flip side jason is always cold so he’s always snuggling up to leo (totally the only reason. definitely not that he’s touch starved) and in the winter they’re literally attached at the hip. jason will not let him go no way no how he *will* stand/walk/lay/sit with his arms around leo at all costs (the cost is piper grossing out at their gushiness)
- jason’s bear hugs are leo’s favorite things in the world he could stay wrapped in those arms forever
- jason and leo live in the same apartment complex as frank and hazel and they become a lot closer
- percy and annabeth live down the hall and leo loves to ding dong ditch them
- annabeth randomly knocks on their door sometimes because she wants leo’s help figuring out the logistics for an architectural project of hers and jason will follow so he can play video games with percy (yeah i said it, percy and leo teach him how to play and he likes it more than he thought he would)
- every week they all get lunch together with reyna, piper, and nico
- nico comes over at first to hang out with jason but he still finds leo…. odd but eventually they bond over their love for horror movies and laughing at jason
- leo loves to sketch when he gets bored in class and he’ll be spacing out drawing until he realizes that his whole page is full of jason’s face from every possible angle
- leo fell first but jason said i love you first (after a lot of coaching from piper)
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bigtittiecomitte · 4 months
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So I’ll explain about my last post
Honestly there are two characters that I was thinking of when I made it and that’s Doll and V
They’re good characters but there is one issue that I see people overlook or just excuse
Doll - For Doll it’s about her wanting to avenge her parents. Which is not what I’m talking about, I’m more talking about how far she went to make that her goal. She wants to kill V to avenge her parents, that’s her goal but a bunch of drones got hurt and even killed because of Doll’s obsession with killing V. I don’t see a lot of people talk about that but I always wondered why the heck she even thought to kill those drones at prom that were just running away. Her goal at the start was to kill V but it ended with her probably killing V and many others
V - V’s definitely the character I mostly think of when someone mentions a fanbase that would excuse bad actions. This one I’m talking about is especially her relationship to N and her trauma
So people probably already know that I’m obsessed with puzzling N and V’s relationship just bc of how complicated it is but also how it’s the most perfect example of being in love with someone who changed and you might not like those changes
I see a lot of people excuse her behaviour towards him sometimes I don’t think people even remember just how bad she treated him
Just a list of the things that she did to N throughout the series so far
1. Pretending to not know who he is, even to the point where he thought that she didn’t even know his name
2. Wanting to literally kill him in the pilot
3. Letting J abuse him (for this one it’s not clear on what it was like before Uzi showed up but judging by the scene where Uzi leaves, you can see that she let J abuse him)
4. Making remarks that would make him feel even worse (mental abuse?)
5. Beheading him
6. Insulting him
7. Physically assaulting him
8. Ignoring him (which could also be apart of Number One but even then she still ignored him throughout the series)
9. Trying to kill the one drone that he cares so much about
10. Keeping secrets from him and just not communicating at all
Yeah that’s pretty much it maybe but I always see people excuse this as her protecting him
The difference between N and V is that V remembers everything that happened in the mansion while N didn’t. It’s why with how V treated her trauma, N and V could never be in a relationship again
V has trauma and that is something that’s pretty clear but yet again it doesn’t give her an excuse to be like this to someone that she cares about because that will just drive him to go to someone else who treats him better than she has ever since in the mansion
People who excuse her behaviour towards him as just being protective doesn’t understand that and doesn’t understand that hurting your loved ones and hiding stuff from them is something that’s really harmful for your relationships
It’s the reason why I absolutely loved N snapping at her in Episode 4 because while a lot of people have said that N went too far I beg to differ
Not only did N have the absolute right to stand up for himself after being mistreated so long but it’s also an important scene for not only V’s character development but also N’s. That scene gave V a realisation on that if she continues treating him the way she has then N will not be bothered to be around her anymore now that he has Uzi
V’s not a villain absolutely not, she’s just someone who went through a bunch of trauma and didn’t know how to treat that but it still doesn’t give the right to do what she did to N because they all went through the same thing it’s just that V remembers it and N should never feel like he didn’t matter because he does, everyone does
V obviously does care about N and he does for her but they’ve both changed, quite literally. It’s why they can never go back to being those silly worker drones that were in love with each other because people change and it’s ok to be uncomfortable with that
Let’s hope that if V does live then N and V can talk it out and actually be friends, no romance whatsoever, just friends because them having a romance now will just make them miserable
On Tiktok I saw a bunch of people say that N and V should be together bc they’ve known each other longer but that’s not how romantic relationships should be
It should be on how healthy it is and how it would affect your mental and emotional well-being not how long you’ve known someone for
Anyways that’s my explanation on it all boobies
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qprsmackdown · 8 months
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c!Emerald duo propaganda:
Let me tell you. We've got two guys. They live together. They live miles away from everyone else but they live in a little cabin in the snow together. They would die for each other. One HAS died for the other. One is in a monogamous relationship with the personification of death and the other is one of the most widely headcanoned aroace characters and it in no way ever devalues what is considered as one of the most unshakable relationships in the story
"For you the world" — Technoblade to Philza. They are so loyal to each other, legit the healthiest and strongest relationship in the fandom
"For you, the world, Phil." -Technoblade "Sometimes one friend is all you need." -Technoblade “I’m following Techno to the gates of hell... and if he wants to take over the world, god dammit I’m gonna help this man.” - Philza “I followed him to the ends of the earth, through fire and flames.“ - Philza (about Technoblade)
They live together. They kill together. They're raising a polar bear and a very anxious enderman hybrid. They committed so many war crimes and looked good doing it<3 "For you, the world" quote my beloved. Anarchism swag😎
Silly guys of all time! They took over the entire world together once <3 (pre-dsmp but still canon to dsmp) they blew up a country together <3 gotta love 2 guys who commit Literal Actual warcrimes. Also the way they trust eachother just unconditionally is just soo ouuuugggghghhhh i love them. iirc I remember a part where techno was basically just talking about how he'll basically never trust anyone again. TO Phil. Who was very obviously an unspoken exception to the "never trusting anyone" thing. It's been a while so idk if I remember it right but aaaouuuugggg their relationship was so good. Also "for you the world phil" AAAAAUUUUUUU (although the context of that line is much sillier than people usually remember but they are silly guys <3). Ooouugghhh I have so much I could talk about but it's late so I can't think of it right now but they are sooooooo important they are everything to me. This is kinda bad propaganda bc I don't know if I'm even remembering things right and am vaguely incorrect but AUGH. EMERALDDUO
Consider: the fanon immortals being very old friends thing which is a trope i will never not love, and also taking over the world with your qpp is so pogchamp of them
Two anarchist immortals who have been besties for an indeterminable amount of time, but at least for hundreds of years. Took over the Earth once just to show that they can. Back-To-Back Badasses. Each other's consciences and also enablers. Lived together in the middle of nowhere tundra biome, in connected little cottages with their bazillion pets.
THOSE BITCHES WERE LIVING IN THE ARCTIC TOGETHER IN THEIR GAY LITTLE COTTAGE WITH LIKE 100 ANIMALS!!!! They’d both often talk about how they’d kill and die for one another, they’ve been together for centuries despite Techno being all but confirmed Aroace and Philza being married to someone else!! I think they definitely had a QPR going on because like. The person you’re closest to and have lived alongside for god knows how long u gotta at least have SOMETHING going on there imo.
They are both imortal livelong best friends who have been there for each other through war and and other personal hardships They are partners in crime, both arnarchists who took down a nation together and both live in retirement together They only trust each other wholeheartedly (aka they both belive the other wont betray them) and Phil is the only person Techno feels he can be himself around (aka be soft around).
Apparently their qpr had drama in the past bc of this one fic but tbh i dont really get why These two are literally just. The best. There's absolutely no romance between them, but they're the closest of friends, and they care about each other so so much. And they deserve all the things. They live together in a house in the arctic in a commune for anarchists. Basically everyone in the Syndicate are their adopted children. 'For you, the world, Phil' -Technoblade (Just like to say this too, Techno is not Phil's son in the DSMP universe. It's been canonically confirmed.)
They’re two dudes who spend all their time together, built their houses next to each other (and connected it w a bridge), started a commune together, took over the world together, have FRIENDSHIP EMERALDS, and are genuinely such good friends (these are the characters but the irl guys were really good friends until techno died too)
Just a bird and his pig chilling as kings
"for you phil, the world" is treated like this big dramatic line as they take over smpearth but in context its bc they were arguing over something silly and techno laughed and conceded to him and like... just look at then they're ride or die besties emerald duo ftw (on a sadder note i constantly see philza wearing techno's merch on streams and videos and just... man i miss seeing them together)
immortal warriors who have promised to follow each other to the ends of the earth, through fire and flames. they are each others most trusted person without a doubt. when trying to retire from the wars that plagued the server, they both retired in an arctic tundra where they lived together.
These guys cant be seperate from each other anymore than like three days. Like, on top of also doing the antarctic empire together in earthSMP, they just moved to the arctic together to just enjoy life and retirement together. They understand each other like no other bc they've known each other forever. Also bc if we take the titles of bloodgod and angel of death literally you get something something being willing to spend eternity with the other because you care abt them. These two are fine being isolated from everybody else and chilling on their own bc thats all they need
Their relationship is defined by a connection that has lasted for centuries. Despite everything, they always go back to each other. They live together in a cabin in the arctic. They also like murdering together a little too much.
old men committed terrorism and then they settled down :)
For you Phil, the world Immortal best friends spend thousands of years together, conquer the world, found a empire. Phil has a kid with his goddess wife, Techno wind up joining the kids rebellion against the country he founded. When that goes wrong they start a commune called the Syndicate. They are so ride or die. I love them
please they live together theyre best friends theyre immortal together they love each other and phil is married to a god PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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briebysabs · 7 months
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I have to talk about Misha I’ve been holding this for so long. I am not defending him, everything he’s done is fucked up. I just want people to understand him better and idk how coherent this will be but HSVDVXHSBSJJDF
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Bc if you hate him, totally justified. But I don’t want Misha to ever be simplified to the jealous crazy younger brother. Yes he is technically that but one thing about mochijun characters is that most of the time, you can always dig further into their psyche. And I feel like not enough people do that with Misha. I haven’t made an in-depth Misha discussion until now mostly bc I’m a potato. He isn’t 2-dimensional and he fits perfectly in the themes of vnc. Misha cannot be saved, he is a hopeless character, he bears Luna’s Mark while using the Book he is doomed. You can say he was doomed the second he entered the story. His brotherly love for Vanitas is twisted. He is the embodiment of tragic. Everything that led him to this point was not his fault. The only thing he chose was to follow Luna and join their clan bc he would’ve died otherwise. Luna and Vanitas are the only good things he ever had.
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We all know his backstory. So of course losing both would make him snap. And on top of all this he’s being manipulated by Teacher. Who fucking knows the lies or orders Teacher has been feeding him. All this when he’s like 12....13 at most.
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And let’s approach the vanoé situation. We know the depth of vanoé’s relationship and even though Misha might’ve observed from afar, he doesn’t have that context. To be fair he probably wouldn’t care but point is, he sees Noé as some random guy. And again, let’s withdraw ourselves a bit and see things from the outside. How much time has passed since chapter 1? How long has Vanitas and Noé actually known each other? We know that a couple weeks passed since the end of the Gevaudan arc. We know that a week passed after Vanoé got kicked outta Ruthven’s study. If there are any other mini time skips I’m forgetting pls lemme know. But let’s be honest, they’ve known each other for two months. If we wanna push it, three. Of course how long you know a person doesn’t solely decide how close you get to them. You can know someone for two weeks but depending wtf goes on in that time frame, they can become your ride or die. But let’s use Misha’s logic for a minute.
You’ve known Vanitas longer, both of you went through hell under Dr. Moreau. You have the same Mark, you’re gonna suffer the same fate. And from how you see it, he chose a man he met by chance a few months ago, over you. Someone who will never truly get it. He is putting his life in the hands of a stranger over yours. You finally meet again after all this time, and the brother who you believed puts you above everything, points a gun at you. Yeah, Misha fucked up. But that will hurt anybody.
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Misha challenges their relationship. He questions how much it even makes sense. It’s not only “how can you chose Noé over me?” But also “How can you kill Father but not him?” Is he more important than us?? And that’s a valid question. Messed up but understandable to ask. Noé has protected Vanitas and has been pretty helpful. But Vanitas doesn’t need him to survive. Noé isn’t essential for this suicide mission he’s on either. Misha cannot understand what Noé brings to Vanitas’ life.
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Misha was so dependent on Vanitas that he couldn’t fathom his brother not feeling the same. Vanitas loves Misha, no matter how strained or corrupted that bond has become. But he is not emotionally capable to stay with him. And he is allowed to feel that way. And Misha is allowed to scream and wail and be broken about it. In conclusion, Misha is an amazing addition to the narrative, I love him a lot. But I also love Vincent from ph so that explains quite a bit doesn’t it?
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pianocat939 · 1 year
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How do you think the Rise turtles would react to a person that’s impenetrable to manipulation? They have a memory of steel too, so gaslighting is also a no. If one of them makes a comment like, “Your friends shifty, I don’t trust them” they’re like “bffr I’ve known them since 1st grade”. And when their friend is like, “hey (turtle) threatened me to stay away from you…” all timid bc they don’t think y/n’ll believe them, but they DO, bc they’ve seen signs of the turtles being crazy and they’ve slowly backed away from them. They finally cut them off with no warning and will fight TOOTH and NAIL to ensure both theirs and their friend’s safety. Like, I’m talking they have weapons at the ready bc they KNOW just how dangerous the turtles can be. Anyways, thanks for reading my ramble, I hope this wasn’t too much of an inconvenience
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Rambles are fun! Especially if they're about my hyperfixation(s)~
Feeling a bit sad so what am I gonna do? That's right, write about my favorite characters.
Tw: violence, mentions of murder, kidnapping, unhealthy glorifying, and obv manipulation
Turtles with MC who isn't Affected by Manipulation
(Before I move on with the headcanons, a reminder that only Leo tends to manipulate, maybe a little bit of Mikey, but mostly our blue homosexual)
✦Raph✦
He doesn't manipulate in the first place. In fact, if he's too far in his dependency, he can be the one manipulated.
However, if you can see any problems (his clinginess and violent nature) and distance yourself from him, it'll cause havoc.
The person he adores so much is leaving him! That can't happen at all!
If he's calm enough, he'll stalk you until he knows exactly what weapons they hold. Then, he strikes at your most vulnerable moment; sleeping, and relaxing are when it'll be.
If he goes full-on rampage, it could go two ways. Either you kill him, or he destroys your defenses and kidnaps you to the lair.
He won't stop until he's hugging and snuggling you again. Even if it means he's injured in the process.
I know it's not explicitly stated in the show (or at least I don't remember it being) that he has separation anxiety. So distancing yourself basically means death to those around you and a big reptilian teddy bear who never leaves your side.
"I'll never let go! I can't even bear to think about it!"
✦Leo✦
You already know he's busting out the big guns.
Right away, he's going to teleport you to a locked room or the lair in general. While he does so, he's going to take your weapons away, so now you're helpless in that term.
If you fight him with only fists and legs he'll tie you up and watch you tire yourself out. It's amusing to him, knowing very well everything would be easier if you just let in. Let him take care of you, let him show you that he's not useless and suited to serve you.
"There's no reason to struggle...I only want to keep you safe, keep you happy, keep you away from people who dirty you."
Then he's going try the manipulate you until your own mind tricks you into thinking that "this is the way it's supposed to be". He is definitely not the most patient person, but if it's with you, he'll do whatever it takes.
(Ok maybe I kinda got indulgent but it's fine. Everything is fine)
✦Danielston III✦
First of all, he's the most lucid of the four, so he's already planned out many solutions to several scenarios. Which can only mean he's prepared for what's coming to him.
By the time you start gathering your defenses and start separating yourself from him, he's already got your room set up in the lair and has microbots ready to destroy the weapons.
So when you wake up in an exquisitely comfortable room and vulnerable to everything. He'll begin talking about how there is a rational reason for his actions and that you aren't seeing it from the right perspective.
He tells no lies, only dark thoughts.
Also, not to mention that he has military-grade bombs and missiles.
"I don't get why you even try to overpower me when I not only have the best tech you'll ever witness but the fact I have the advantage over you: both intellectually and physically."
✦Mikey✦
I think he's the most likely to manipulate after Leo.
He wants to change the way you see yourself. When I state this I mean that he wants to glorify you.
He says things like, "You are so perfect, so breathtaking, so lovely! This is why you are my divinity, my god~"
You can say no, and stop obsessing over me but he doesn't. He'll keep pushing and pushing.
So when you pull the 'fuck you' card he's going to take the message in a completely other direction. He'll believe you don't feel worshipped enough which pushes him more to do his unhinged characteristics.
He does have a weaponry advantage. His nunchucks give him the perfect long-distance range to bind you with it and stop your attacks so being careful is one thing you must keep in mind.
Brings you to the throne he built and decorated with no thoughts going through his head.
Consider him your loyal servant from then on.
Except you're never allowed to leave without him.
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Sorry if MIkey's is messy. I'm kinda sleep deprived haha.
- Celina
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asoiastarks · 10 months
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i am so sick of barely getting any helaena content. it takes hours of scrolling to try and escape seeing posts only mention her for their helaena x jace, helaegon or helaemond ships, (ship content is okay, i enjoy it too but when a fair majority of her content is almost exclusively ship-related it’s kind of sucky) — it seems to me that a few of them do not genuinely care about or focus on her or her perspective. that in some fics or hcs, helaena just exists as a prize or generic love interest to futher their stories and/or the author’s obsession with “pretty, pathetic, sad men with trauma uwu” tropes for when they can’t be bothered to make an oc or as a means to tie off a loose an end (i.e. hel marries jace. dance averted fics) which is so unfair considering she’s literally so fucking cool!!
helaena is worth so much more than just the mediocre men around her!! she is the most interesting out of all her siblings idgaf what you say, yet she’s reduced to just being “weird” and/or boring by most of the fandom (though the boring part can be explained away by a lack of focus in both the book and show versions)
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though to help showcase my point, here’s some reasons why i love her:
- she’s literally got the gift of prophesy and dragon dreams, like the savior of their house and the conqueror.
- the way she would look at the world is entirely unique bc of being a dreamer, like her concept of fate and time would be so cool to see contrasted by others. “he’ll have to close an eye”, the metaphor of the centipedes’s legs for monarchs on the throne all act in favour of this belief.
- she claimed dreamfyre, the second oldest living dragon in that period of time (mother and or grandmother to most of the dragons alive in the series + drogon, rhaegar & viserion)
- she was beloved by the smallfolk (thus implying she was generally good, pious, etc and won their favour, likely by charity e.g. margaery going to the orphanages)
- she’s nice and doesn’t act toxic to people regardless of her own trauma (unlike everyone else)
- she fits within typical (textual) societal standards of women without being noted as distinctly inferior to her masculine counterparts (beyond gender bias, as f&b was written as accounts of characters). strong women don’t always have to hold swords
- she’s an autistic-coded female character. neurodivergent rep in media, as well as period and fantasy settings are so important because they’ve always existed. (she’s fairly good rep too, at least to me. hint: not weird and emotionless, this isnt the good doctor or young sheldon ffs)
- helaena also likes bugs and insects because they literally are so cool okay, and she relates them to her prophesies?? metal as fuck. (like spiders are so interesting ok)
- she became mentally ill upon facing torture and witnessing the death of her eldest son and threatened rape of her daughter and got so overcome with survivors guilt r.e: maelor that it later caused her suicide? utterly tragic, compelling, real as fuck. i will never forgive daemon for blood and cheese, i am sobbing on the floor, i will never recover or move on
- she loves her family and is loved by them in return. the little bug she had during the dinner scene from aegon, the smile and little claps otto gave her in turn, hell, she’s the only one to be known as “sweet sister” by rhaenyra. (though that may be because a younger sister is less threatening than a younger brother in the line of succession, still, i’m not going to dismiss it entirely) the scenes of her with alicent work too. helaena has an aversion to touch for the most part but there’s still a degree of familiar intimacy in her interaction with her mother, as well as her kids
- the sass. you all paid attention in that scene where alicent asks where aegon is, right? absolutely iconic behaviour. her toast and dance with jace to get back at aegon for his comments. (how do some people just miss her personality entirely? the fuck you mean you think she’s bland boring)
- also she reminds me of phoebe bridgers’ music for some reason. (this one is more of a headcanon but it’s on the list anyways)
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yet we as a fandom often seem to disregard her (and the plight and characterisation almost all other women in the show) for “sexy emo/sad boys with trauma” and the “omg he’s so lana del ray coded” bs because that’s totally not overdone in 2023
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guckies · 4 months
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I wanna explain why I dislike q!bbh because of the purgatory event. Because personally I feel like some people misunderstand why some of us do. So warning from now if you dont wanna see q!bbh neg
Last warning this is qbbh critical and my opinion! If you don’t want to see that stuff then move on. ALSO IT IS MY INTERPRETATION OF RP DONT LIKE IT THEN TELL YOUR STREAMER TO NOT RP OR GO TOUCH GRASS.
It’s because once purgatory is over, he will find a way to blame it all on someone else and not take responsibility for his actions. And we know he will because he’s done it the entire event and before on the island. It’s as if he is playing the villain because he wants to be the hero. Yet there is no concrete evidence to match his actions it’s just what he feels.
Yes his rp can be based on his emotions but right now it’s just the same thing over and over without trying a different way it becomes so boring and barely rp since he’s the only one wanting to doing it during those times.
He excuses a lot of his actions because it’s red team and you can try to tell me someone who he does the same for but he doesn’t. Which makes him their villain, he literally even admitted to basically torturing them.
His actions are categorically top 3 shitty; he’s borderline obsessed with red, he doesn’t listen to his leader, he’s not always a team player and has ruined his friendship with others because he believes he’s right 100% of the time. This isn’t everything bc you can do your own research. Yeah that can be his rp but people can dislike his character rp.
At the end most will just forget it too because that’s what they always do and not everyone is “rping” the entire event despite some doing a little or joking about it. Someone will talk about how he’s the egg babysitter, then he’ll play it up and they forget about purgatory because they’ve got bigger fish to fry. Which I don’t like, it excuses things he’s done and I would rather he have done it so that others can feel betrayed and not want to be as trusting of him, instead of it just going back to normal because then what was it for. But in my opinion those who were “tormented” by bad in purgatory shouldn’t let it go. Because with this “lore” i would 100% think about how he would easily kill or destroy someone else for selfish reasons on quesadilla.
My problem with his character now is that he’s trying to play the hero by winning the event yet majority of the time it comes with no evidence or agreement and at the downfall of others who are meant to be his friends. So yeah his actions are going to make him a villain. He has no idea who the cursed team is only a small clue that reveals not much and he’s only really discussed it about once with others. If he believes his team is the ones who need to win then don’t you think he should try to discuss it with them via their leaders yet they just give up cause of Bad’s previous actions which has doomed blue team.
Also a small thing about his rp, if he’s in rp 90% of the time especially during this event then he should be prepared for backlash. Because yeah rp can be battles and destruction but if it’s the same thing over and over with no one else rping then maybe it’s time to get meta and think about something else to do because it becomes boring for everyone. It’s just him doing the same thing and then getting shocked when red does the same in retaliation.
BUT THIS IS JUST ME AND MY OPINIONS. You don’t like, you can move on and live your life or fucking block me I really don’t care.
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brookreader · 2 years
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Analyzing Belos’ Eyes On The Owl Lady Suspects
Raine Whispers
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Evidence for Raine being a traitor:
A lot of shots of them looking guilty this episode. Like. A lot
Canonically a good liar, has fooled Eda before
Was the one to suggest that Eda get a sigil
Could be being blackmailed by Terra or Belos
Could be being brainwashed after all
Evidence against Raine being a traitor:
No <3 I simply refuse to believe it
The guilty looks are easily explained as them feeling bad for endangering Eda’s safety
They know the draining spell is going to kill everyone, I doubt they’d be stupid enough to take any offers of keeping Eda safe or whatever from Terra or Belos
Judging by their actions in both this episode and Eda’s Requiem, they put the success of the rebellion above everything, even (reluctantly) Eda’s safety
We as a fandom have been here before. Many fans were suspicious of Raine before Eda’s Requiem aired — it was unfounded then and I bet it’s unfounded now
That might be too many twists for one character’s loyalties. Put some back
Darius
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Evidence for Darius being a traitor:
Was the one featured in the ep where the possibly-foreshadowing “coven heads betray each other all the time” line was said
Knew and clearly admired Hunter’s predecessor — perhaps he thought that predecessor was loyal to the emperor and so…?
Evidence against Darius being a traitor:
I pulled that possible motivation directly out of my ass
Seems more likely that the previous Golden Guard is part of the reason he’s rebelling
We just had the twist of him being a rebel, it would be weird for the next twist to be “LMAO jk no he’s not”
Seems to genuinely care for Hunter and Raine
Eberwolf
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Evidence for Eberwolf being a traitor:
Honestly if there IS a spy I think Eber’s the most likely candidate
We know very little about Eberwolf in general — their motivations are a mystery
While a semi-big deal was made out of Darius being a rebel, Eber has just kinda been in the background. It feels suspicious
Coven Head, so the “coven heads betray each other all the time” would work as foreshadowing
Conspicuously absent from this group shot at the end of OTWAT. Could be an animation mistake, but could also Not be
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Evidence against Eberwolf being a traitor:
maybe switched places with Eda at the end of COTH, bc of the growling?? Not rlly sure what that would imply though
Amber, Derwin, or Katya
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Evidence for one of them being a traitor:
Like with Eber, we know very little about them and their motives
Evidence against one of them being a traitor:
For Katya, when we first met her she was in the conformitorium and seemed pretty passionate about her divergence
Wouldn’t make for a very dramatic reveal
Steve
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Evidence for Steve being a traitor:
Showed up conveniently just as the CATTs were about to put their plan into motion
I could totally see Belos sending one of his friendlier scouts to go infiltrate them
Well-liked enough to emotionally fuck with the audience if true
Evidence against Steve being a traitor:
It would be weird from a writing standpoint to have the person who helped King and King helped in return, a huge turning point in King’s character in general, have been lying the whole time
Look at that face. Does that look like the face of a liar to you?
Adrian Graye (or another illusion witch)
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Evidence for:
We’ve seen a lot of people being illusioned into other people these last few episodes — could be foreshadowing
As @shoulderpats pointed out, Steve’s freckles/moles/acne scars have moved since last episode. Could be an error, but could also Not be an error
Stopping the rebellion would potentially be a good way for Adrian to get some dignity back after getting his ass kicked by a 12 year old who wasn’t even really trying
Evidence against:
Can’t really think of any, feel free to add on if you can
Terra Snapdragon
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Evidence for:
Only speculation, but she could have picked something up from Raine and/or be spying on them
Much as I want to believe they’ve got her 100% fooled, it might not be that easy
Evidence against:
Again, can’t really think of anything
Lilith Clawthorne
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Evidence for Lilith being a traitor:
Could be being manipulated by the emperor again, trying to save Eda and maybe Hooty and her niece and nephew too
Evidence against Lilith being a traitor:
After all the character growth she’s had, it seems unlikely that she’d backslide that hard
Shown in Elsewhere And Elsewhen to be able to recognize signs of manipulation now
Same twist villain twice??
I really don’t think it’s Lilith but I wanted to cover all my bases
Hunter
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Evidence for Hunter being a traitor:
Also could be being manipulated, or the emperor could be able to see what he sees or something since he created him
Evidence against Hunter being a traitor:
After Hollow Mind I really doubt he’s gonna believe Belos again
Belos seemed genuinely surprised when Hunter got the key, so I don’t think he can see through his eyes or anything
I hit the image limit so I’ll reblog with the remaining suspects
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mariejordans · 5 months
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Listen I adore limoreau they're the first new ship I've had in a long time and I know the show only has 8 eps but omg they're skipping so many important things with them wtf we should've gotten to see flashbacks of their first time where's the convo after all the angst last episode we need more development and depth. I really don't think they anticipated how popular they were gonna be not as a ship but just romance in general they thought it was gonna be like the boys where 99% of the fandom could not care less about who is dating who but this is a college show and the dynamics and potential of the ships is 1000% greater than that of the boys and I LOVE the boys but it's not that show. Also although the boys doesn't kill most of its characters I think gen v is gonna be different we're loosing at least one main the finale and more in s2
okay this post kinda got away from me and i just started rambling (probably nonsense) so please forgive me if none of this makes sense and/or sounds stupid 😭
first off, anon i COMPLETELY agree with you on the first point. like, don’t get me wrong, i’ve loved and appreciated all the limoreau scenes we’ve gotten so far but right now limoreau just feels a bit….underdeveloped ig? i’m not saying that the writers need to take three seasons to get them together (that would be torture), but it feels like there are so many loose ends left with them and i don’t see how they can tie them all up in the final episode, considering it’s supposed to be a tie-in to s4 of the boys and SO MUCH SHIT is happening.
it feels as if the writers shoved in as much limoreau content as they could into the first half of the season and then were like “alright that should be enough” like???? no? we have not seen a proper conversation between jordan and marie about the state of their relationship since, what, episode 5? and they never resolved the issue of jordan being insecure about marie wanting to be with ALL of them, not just their masc self? if the kiss in tonight’s episode is the last limoreau romantic content we get, i’ll be very disappointed bc i feel like they definitely could’ve at least wrapped up that arc in less than eight episodes.
and don’t get me started on what happened during the memory wipe. the two main characters had SEX and we don’t even get to see the build-up to how and why that happened? it’s not as if marie and jordan don’t remember, bc cate literally gave them their memory back, so it kinda feels like we missed a couple steps in this episode 😭 like, yes, the kiss was super cute and soft and adorable and yes i was kicking my feet and giggling, but at the same time it felt a bit “whoa why we going so fucking fast” bc as far as WE know, they haven’t really talked about the kiss or the sex. like, i feel robbed a little bit bc this is supposed to be like THE main couple 😭
i also think you might be onto something with the writers not anticipating how popular limoreau bc the boys (while they do have some beautiful ships kimchie ily) is not exactly a ship/romance-heavy show and ig they expected the audience to take after the boys?? idk if that makes sense but 🤷🏼‍♀️
as for gen v having major characters killed off, i kinda agree, i kinda don’t. i think mostly bc they’ve already killed off two major characters (luke, who i am counting even though he was alive for 1 ep bc his death was a MAJOR plot twist bc he was literally being promoted as a main/lead character, and indira) and then they also killed off dr. cardosa, so i’d say the kill count is pretty high already. i think the characters most likely to die are andre or cate (or andre’s dad but idk if i’d consider him a major death.)
i think marie and jordan are probably the safest of the main characters (KNOCK ON WOOD!!!!!!) and should they survive this season (god willing!!!!) i think they will remain safe, if not safer. limoreau are the biggest draw (for newer viewers who haven’t seen the boys at least) to the show right now in my opinion. almost everyone i encounter who likes this show got into it because of jordan and marie. i got into it bc of jordan and marie. i don’t think it’d be smart of them to kill off their most popular characters (at least, i really really hope they’re smart enough NOT to do that) so (again, KNOCK ON WOOD!!!!!!!) i think they are safe.
cate could go one of three ways i think; 1, she lives and ends up going full villain/anti-hero arc (which works well with the theory that marie is gonna blow off cate’s hands so she can’t use her power); 2, she has a whole redemption arc where she sacrifices herself for the group; and 3, (this one seems the most far-fetched to me idk if they would actually go this route) cate dies and becomes a martyr or symbol of the entire supes lives matter thing or whatever it’s called. either way, cate is going to go through some deep deep shit in the finale.
ppl have been saying emma and sam kinda have death trope written all over them, but idk i just don’t see it. i could MAYBE see one of them dying, but also not bc apparently there was a scene from one of the promo trailers of emma in the woods as a prisoner and considering this hasn’t happened yet, i’m thinking maybe it could be a cliffhanger for the end of the episode into season 2? as for sam, i honestly have no idea what the writers have planned for him. personally, i think it would be cruel to kill him off after what he experienced in the woods, not to mention his brother already is dead so it’d be kinda fucked up to kill both riordan brothers but 🤷🏼‍♀️ anything can happen in this show
as for andre, i hate to say it, but he’s kinda useless. he’s probably the weakest supe of the group if i had to pick one and i could definitely see andre dying being used as a way to either solidify cate’s villain arc or like, shock some sense into her(?) bringing her back to the good side, idk 🤷🏼‍♀️ plus there’s the whole controversy with chance, so unless andre survives and they decide to recast him, i really wouldn’t be that sorry to see him go. also, i think his dad is almost for sure dying, my main question is what the hell happened to him and how did he die bc that was random as hell.
i really just hope limoreau and cate survive, they’re probably the most interesting characters in this entire show (i may be a bit biased but it’s fiiine), plus the actors are so so so great, it’d be such a shame to lose them. i’m a little ambivalent on sam and emma, but i don’t really WANT them to die, and with andre, i kinda just don’t care for reasons explained above.
honestly, i think if they kill off another main character this season, it might lessen the chances of killing off another main character in the second season (unless they add more characters to the main cast), and if they end up surviving all the main characters, someone is def getting killed in s2, idk if it’ll be both, but again, anything can happen in this universe so i guess we’ll have to see 🤷🏼‍♀️
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spicyicymeloncat · 1 year
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Guys can we talk more about that pre gen Ninjago 2023 concept. Having the old elementals as the main cast.
What if the show starts off with Krux and Acronix from the present of the original Ninjago, and they’ve just time travelled to before they were even villains and are just quirky nemeses of the main cast (quirky nod to the original show). Also the serpentine wars are probably also going to be mentioned.
The main cast is
- Garmadon: generally a bossy sassy guy who’s always grumpy bc of the venom and tends to be the leader since he’s the oldest. Despite it all he’s got some social skills and is generally well liked for his power. Currently on the side of good bc the venom hasn’t yet taken over. Has powers of destruction and dark energy.
- wu: Garmadon’s worried younger brother who is just trying to make sure Garmadon doesn’t destroy too much stuff. He’s genuine but also genuinely worse at fitting in with the group bc he’s more introverted (I’m riding off the fact that he decided to write Misako a confession letter instead of talking to her, not even after she didn’t get it). His fighting style relies more on technique than magics ability and it’s still ambiguous whether he has similar powers to Garmadon.
- Ray: didn’t realise he was a fire elemental and comes from a long line of blacksmithing. However when villains attacked his village he decided to become a samurai and defend it. Realises his elemental power throughout the series and learns to control it with the help of Maya. Can seem carefree and laidback and a bit of a joker but can also be incredibly stubborn and determined when he gets into it. Also wu and ray are bffs
- Maya: comes from a long line of water elementals and was trained to be a warrior elemental for most of her life. Hence she has a strict way of doing things and everything she does has to be perfect. She feels great responsibility in being the water elemental as it’s an important and sacred element. She’ll probably have an arc at some point where she learns to be messy and doesn’t have to be perfect all the time, and Ray will probably help her be more relaxed or emotional. She’s usually pretty cool headed but uptight. She’s enthusiastic about training and being organised and can be a bit critical when people don’t take it as seriously as her
(There’s not as much things to go off with these other characters so forgive me if everything else is vague)
- lightning: probably a small town girl who just happened to discover her elemental power but had no idea what to do with it. Maybe she was inspired inspired by the group to become a fighter and is generally pretty new to everything. She’s very bubbly and energetic and extremely talkative and is key on keeping the group together in hard times. However she’s also one of the more self indulgent members, and the one most likely to complain about doing super hard training. Despite that it would be cute if her character arc was about her growing into her powers and leading a more purposeful life, like she learns that she wants to fight bc she cares and not just bc she doesn’t know what to do with her powers. Also the thing with Cliff Gordon is like a celebrity crush running gag which then develops into a “Gordon gets damselled a lot and lightning has to save him” running gag bc I think that would be a cute and kinda silly romance dynamic idk
- earth: (Cole’s grandad) he’s a bit older than the other characters (only in an appearance sense to the spinjitzu bros) and he’s a travelling warrior. He was probably a hugely powerful potential ally that it was important for Garmadon and wu to recruit against the villains. I can imagine him seeming like the stern type but is actually just a dad guy yknow. Like he’s secretly a huge softie who hopes to start a family one day. I can see him and lightning having a mentor apprentice relationship yknow. He’s also got that leader esque vibe that I think it would be interesting if at a crucial point in the story he disagrees with one of Garmadon’s plans and kinda challenges his authority and it causes friction within the group. Also I just checked the wiki and apparently he was also manipulated by Chen and hypnotised by hypnobrai to betray the other elementals so that checks out.
- ice: again a bit older than everyone else but he’s kinda mysterious. Hes a renowned wandering warrior who shows up to save random villages from monsters before disappearing without a trace. Bc of this people are both in awe and suspicious of him. He actually comes to the spinjitzu brothers before they attempt to recruit him because he sees visions of the future and bestows them prophecies and is like “and you’re gonna need my help”. He’s cool like that and probably instigates main plot threads with his visions. This does mean he has room for a “don’t shoot the messenger” arc. But you could do many cool things with him and his future vision. Like he looks cool but is secretly in constant existential crises, which will also link into the general time and back in time them with this show being a pre gen and technically the audience also has future visions. And also the spinjitzu brothers are also operating on prophecies
Over all I love them and I want to draw now haha.
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opsidecrewsclash · 8 months
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One Piece Side Crews Clash - 3rd Place
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Members and Propaganda under the cut
Kid Pirates
Members:
Eustass Kid
Killer
Heat
Wire
Bubblegum
Mosh
Uk
Pomp
Emma
Hip
Hop
Pampas
Boogie
Quincy
Dive
Propaganda:
Oda did them so dirty, they deserve it
Because they look like they're all outcasts, they have a punk ass ship, and they obviously care about each other a lot.
Kid causes so many problems and I love him. Then you’ve got Killer who is there to get him to chill for like 2 seconds.
listen have you seen them. have you seen these crazy kids and their punk theme. their dedication not only to their captain but to the aesthetic? these guys fucking rule. like Kidd and Killer obviously slap as characters, and it’s really fun to see a captain and first mate combo who are so dedicated to each other, but then they also have a whole crew who are as dedicated to them?? incredible. they went and fought a yonko for funsies and survived! also special shout-out to heat for his overall Frankenstein’s monster look <3
Whitebeard Pirates
Members:
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Associates/Allies:
Whitey Bay’s crew
Decalvan Brothers
Oars Jr.
Squardo
Propaganda:
They are the most found family pirate crew to ever found family.
listen you know them you love them if I’m the only person submitting them I’d be SURPRISED. they’re not just the one of the strongest crews, the crew of an emperor (the actual strongest man in the world), they’re a family. they love each other so much they’d go to war against the world for one of their own. they’re the crew that helped ace realise he was loved and deserved to live. marco’s there. IZOU (the best minor character in the show!) is there! what more do you want! their ship is a whale! called moby dick! they get cool tattoos of their Jolly Roger bc they’re all so grateful to be part of this family that they ink their loyalty on their bodies! they’ve got all this an a complex and tragic story about the downfall of giants and the way even families that love each other can splinter in the face of grief. they’re the best crew aside from the strawhats 🤷
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goldensunset · 24 days
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i’m not about to draw a minimum of twelve entire pictures but i wanna do this anyway (i guess i could just edit the images in there but that’s lame lol)
•my favorite gym leader is probably either tulip or clay! something about tulip i just always found very endearing and respectable and i love clay’s no-nonsense attitude and sheer strength. plus he gets bonus points for his daughter being lacey
•fav champion is clearly volo. like how could you not classify that as a champion fight. that was so freaking hard man. runner up goes to kieran though bc he was also really hard for me. but of course if we’re talking official true pokémon league champions then cynthia
•fav elite four member has gotta be lacey. i adore her. first time i’ve ever lost to the same opponent multiple times in a fair fight (aka being prepared and on-level). she’s sooo cute and fun! she also terrifies me severely
•favorite protagonist is akari no surprise there. la does such a good job of making it clearly important why the protag is the protag. it offers a legitimate in-universe explanation as to why this one child in particular is so much more powerful than all the others. out of place in time and space, literally chosen by a god… the way certain characters question her humanity, both in a good and evil way… it’s so good
•favorite rival… well pokémon fans use the term rival really loosely. it can mean any friend character that you battle for funsies even once. it can mean literal arch nemesis. idk. arven stole my heart with his story but i don’t consider him a rival like most people do so that goes to cheren. i love his story and he has also mopped the floor with me several times
•favorite antagonist is also volo next question. i’m sick in the head about him. n is a strong and clear second place obviously though. i’ve done enough rambling on here about them
•professor laventon is the guy ever he feels like he actually personally cares about akari so much. that’s her dad. the way he’s actively involved in plot stuff, he accompanies the team on field missions even when he really doesn’t need to… he’s always there. you see him a lot. and he’s clearly writing the pokédex entries himself and they’re absolute gold. but seeing as professor is also a broad term because they’ve been really breaking up the older tradition in recent games, i nominate director clavell as second place bc i respect the guy a lot. that old man (tm) enjoyer here
•fav battle facility leader… well. i don’t really have one bc i’ve done very little with the battle facilities in the two games i’ve played that had them lol. so i guess throwaway answer is ingo but mostly for pla reasons. actually i think he counts as a battle facility leader in pla with the daybreak update and i’ve done some of his stuff so he does in fact count for me
•for fav clan member i’m gonna say arezu i like her a lot. she tried doing the right thing in a very chaotic way and i respect her for her efforts. plus her design is cute and she gives great haircuts and her noble is adorable
•character from other media… well i’m obsessed with the way n is portrayed in pokespe. perfect blend between sad prettyboy and freak behavior. they just made everything so intense. and i love oshawott from poképark 2 with the way he’s trying so hard to be serious and cool but snivy keeps getting on his nerves lol. that’s the reason i chose oshawott in pla bc that was the only of those pokémon i recognized
•i’m classifying arven as miscellaneous bc like i said i don’t consider him a rival but MAN!! man… this guy just got shortchanged so many times but i’m glad he was able to get closure for his parents’ disappearance and death and that he can move on and just live his own life. also certified dog lover moment
•top fav character… yeah you all know it’s volo LOL. completely shrimp fried my brain. the absolute hyperactive high i was on when he revealed himself. made even more insane bc i had literally been spoiled that he was a twist villain but i had no other context so i was just waiting the whole game for him to be evil. imagine the sinking in my gut when the credits rolled and it didn’t happen i thought i’d been embarrassing myself the whole time but then the postgame punched me in the gut HARD. i thought he’d end up being like the sad sympathetic frenemy guy where you don’t really want to fight him but NOPE full on evil full on he was just using you. made even better by the context that he had been your biggest fan throughout the whole game while everyone else had been suspicious of you. i lost my entire mind. once again second place to n though
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tonariofjananda · 4 months
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For the ask game: Tonari - 5, 7, and 12!
Heya Ray! Ok here goes
5) What's the first song that comes to mind when you think about them?
Honestly I’ve got a handful, most for maybe a line or two of association, but the first one that came to mind when reading this question that’s completely hers in my head was “The Moon Will Sing” by the Crane Wives. I love imagining the song as her reflecting on her dad, friends, Hayase, and Fushi, and how they’ve all contributed to the way she feels about herself and her legacy. Fun fact, the association came about from my mishearing of a line as “I shine only with the life you gave me,” the original word being “light” instead of “life.” But the more I reflected on the song, the more I felt her presence in it (I described this to my best friend as Tonari clawing her way to the surface lol), especially in the third verse. That one in particular draws a really vivid image to me of what Tonari’s headspace must have been right after Fushi pulled her away from the flames. I imagine she’s remorseful that she couldn’t give her friends a better life and is rallying to find her courage to kill them before Fushi steps in. “Instead you hoarded all that’s left of me” is a complicated little line too, filled with the bitterness and confusion at Fushi of keeping her from death. There’s not much left of her with the death of her friends, what Fushi did was selfish, but also implies Tonari didn’t realize Fushi cared if she lived or died. Then he takes the sword from her hands, “swallowing your doubt,” and she’s… grateful, angry, upset… but most of all, she acknowledges the mutual hesitance between herself and Fushi, even though they both know this is the only course of action. Even though it makes her feel like he’s taking the sword through her own body. He might as well be. The line “I want to feel the fire that you kept from me” is the most straightforward in my opinion, and what really solidified this song as being hers for me. It’s a little funny what I’ve done here tbh. The song probably meant the line as “i want to become the person you stopped me from being, I want to regain the life that was supposed to be mine,” but for this Tonari interpretation, I’ve given it the opposite implication… cough
Anyway, the chorus also kind of ties in with another song I somewhat associate with her, “Your Best American Girl” by Mitski, for the lines “Well I’m not the moon/I’m not even a star,” but I’ll spare you the analysis for that and “Goodbye My Danish Sweetheart” (also by Mitski) til… later 👀❗️
For now, I’ll leave you with the three following, lighter songs: Laufey called “Best Friend,” which I listen to as something directed towards the immortal army as a whole; “Wings,” by So!YoON! and Phum Viphruit as a song between her and Ligard and Fushi woah who said that; and “A Thousand Years” by Christina Perri bc immortalism and the heartbreak of waiting to reunite with someone. Also please imagine the second verse as being from Fushi’s perspective on getting not just her but all of their friends back at the end of the past era arc with potentially rough implications for their thought process in the modern arc WHO SAID THAT
7) What's something the fandom does when it comes to this character that you like?
(Lyn asked me this too so I’ll cover it here for the two of ya!)
Tbh… I just like it when anyone talks about her ówò Tonari tends to get overlooked- even tho I’d argue she’s something of a deuteragonist- so I really just love whenever people acknowledge her importance to the story and show some enthusiasm for her plotlines. In terms of stories and fan art, it’s always awesome to see all the different sides of her shine through! Tonari’s badass, bitchy, and a little judgmental, but she’s also fashionable, studious, and warm, especially toward March and Eko. It’s also nice to see the occasional silliness she used to show on Jananda shine through every now and then. She’s changed a lot by the next arc, for obvious reasons, but she was pretty silly to Hisame when she was inviting herself to dinner, I don’t think all that playfulness should just disappear! So it’s nice to see fans playing with Tonari without vilifying her ;w; Also without reducing her to her feelings for Fushi, because yeah she has some but that’s not the only thing she’s about (even tho…. I fixate a lot… on that particular subject……… cough). While I’m on the subject, I really love that most ToFu art is limited to things like gentle physical affection. A head on a shoulder (I spent hours running around my house when you sent me that pic Ray, HOURS), a meaningful hug, and touching hands- an absolute must if you like em. I’m definitely getting carried away now though…
12) What's a headcanon you have for this character?
(Limit yourself, limit yourself, limit yourself…!!!)
(Also Coop if you’re reading this, the green one is the only safe one lol)
Bisexual Tonari is an obvious one, I’m convinced she was attracted to Parona’s form (who isn’t in this show tho lmao), and I find those ship posts between Tonari and Mizuha to be so fun tbh. Enemies to lovers maybe, invited to hold hands with her and Hanna! That theory you had about Nagisa having a crush on Tonari lives in my head rent free too, absolutely canon to me. Actually the MizuNariHanna stuff would be extra funny in a world where Nagisa has a crush on Tonari bc now Mizuha’s a girl stealer too! Nagisa just can’t win!!!
Tonari loves writing! And she’s a woman in STEM! Not a headcanon just fact but it lays down the groundwork for my following headcanon: she probably went away to grad school or something. Bon asked if Tonari knew how to do surgery, implying to my insane head that she’s probably gone away for school or something, maybe even received a doctorate, but Bon doesn’t know what for. Her stitches look a bit spaced out and wonky tbh, so she probably doesn’t have the patience for things like needlepoint. I’d wager her calling probably isn’t physical art either haha.
She absolutely goes drinking with the immortal trio + Bon and maybe Gugu once she’s old enough to do so (… would Hairo drink? Designated driver Hairo Rich, but also it’d be so funny if he’s completely normal in the stupidest way while drunk. “Stands like perfectly normal but topples over the second he goes to take a step” typa drunk- BUT THIS ISNT ABOUT HIM SORRY). I think they’d love having Tonari around to pal around with! I imagine that old Jananda arc silliness comes out full force then, if her excitement at Mizuha’s birthday was anything to go off ✌️
(This one’s safe Coop!) Her hair’s been short and choppy since before she got to Jananda so I like to think she did that little kid thing where she tried cutting her own hair and it came out looking uneven. Instead of letting her parents fix it though, she just insisted it wasn’t a mistake and wore it out like that for years. Then when she got to Jananda all the scissors sucked so she just had to keep cutting her hair in the same shabby way. Mia and Oopa having long hair is so funny to me too cuz I imagine they wouldn’t let Tonari get anywhere near them with scissors in her hand (OK stop reading here Coop!)
While I’m here, i think Tonari probably sees a little bit of her old friends in the immortal army tbh. Like, @/alphaofdarkness made the connection that March probably reminded Tonari of Oopa ;; So I feel like Gugu could remind Tonari of Uroy in some ways too, like in the buff, blond, older brother figure kind of way. Eko could remind her of young Sandel in the same way both were kind of upbeat and cute, but quiet in a way that they faded a little in the group (my brother INSISTED Sandel had NOT been there the entire time we were watching the Jananda arc). Meanwhile Messar might remind her of the older Sandel, the kind who probably was more like a brotherly shithead to her after all their years of growing up together. And Mia… imma be honest Mia’s weird as hell, chair fighting, curly hair collecting? Ain’t nobody doing it like Mia 🫡 ACTUALLY ITS BON, BON TOTALLY REMINDS HER OF MIA LMAO
OK IM ENDING IT THERE (Believe it or not this is me limiting myself, I’d typed out an entire section on Tonari’s relationship with each of the members of the immortal army). Hope these were decent enough responses to your questions Ray!
If you- or anyone- has anymore questions on Tonari or literally anyone else please feel free to send them! I have thoughts on like literally everyone, no character too obscure ✌️
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iamsotiredman · 2 years
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Why Steddie shippers are VALID
So my sister made a whole ass analysis on why Steddie shippers are not insane for seeing what we saw and I'm just gonna copy paste it below:
Gonna go on a little ramble here but the thing is people weren't pulling shit out of nowhere when they shipped steddie it's not just them looking at two characters and being like oh they'd have a fun dynamic IF we put them in situations because the story itself put them in those situations. If you sit and think about it they would've been the natural direction for the story to have taken. It's not even just the actors' chemistry, the characters themselves were set up in ways that just pushed them together throughout the season. Romantically.
If you look at what we got the season starts off with Steve being jealous of Eddie, refusing to hang out with him and wanting Dustin to stop pestering him. Then it's him not knowing what he wants in terms of romance. His flirting gets sidetracked because in Dustin's words "maybe he should spend less time looking at girls and looking for Eddie" which he then does because the plot itself pushes them together.
When they find Eddie it's Steve that gets shoved up against a wall, making him the first character outside of the kids from the party that Eddie even directly interacts with. And then when he goes missing it's Steve that leads them to skull rock and once more he's the first one Eddie even says anything to when he's found. And even then they share quips about Dustin despite it being something they were stated to be jealous about. Does Steve know shit about mordor? Does he even understand half the shit the man talks about there? nope. but is he the one that states that hey maybe we should be prioritising Eddie's safety instead of jumping headfirst into killing vecna? yup. He hangs back so Eddie can get his shit, which at this point the importance of an alcohol container isn't even much but it's still Eddie's stuff so he does hang back, he waits.
(small note that the other time we saw someone hanging in the background was with lumax, when Max needed to tie her shoelaces and maybe that's not intentional because maybe Sadie just needed to tie her shoelaces but still)
And then when Steve volunteers to jump to find that gate it's Eddie that gets a torch, wraps it up in plastic and hands it over with a goodluck and keeps Steve's sweater with him. And when it seems like Steve's having a moment with his ex it's Eddie that interrupts them with a scoff to give him his battle vest when he could've handed him his leather jacket, when he didn't even need to hand him anything bc Robin was right there and could've handed him her jacket.
The fact that Steve takes it and then hangs back again but this time specifically to be say  thank you for jumping in to help, Eddie deflects it all the way anyone with a crush who wants to not be clocked as having one would do bc "omg it's obvious I was jealous it's obvious Nancy and Steve should be together again" His dialogue here very much is the most I'm outside this circle I shouldn't be butting into this circle but even then the show shows us Steve with chunks of his stomach gone still there trying to comfort and thank and reassure Eddie. Eddie even goes on to make him laugh!! and makes him get flustered!! and they have a heart to heart about Dustin, about being presumptuous of eo and how hey we're cool now and it cements how Eddie really is with the party now.
(Yet another side note but his jealousy could really directly parallel Robins coming out scene so well its almost ridiculous. "Hey Steve I wasn't obsessed with you I was jealous vs Hey Steve I wasn't actually jealous I was obsessed" )
And then they show little moments of them celebrating together when they succeed in contacting Dustin, they show them whining to eo about the tiny boy they've self appointed to take care of. And even when they're out of the upside down for a while they're just constantly near eo in every frame? it's one of those oh even if they're not the focus rn they just gravitate towards eo things.
They have Eddie hot wire a trailer but even then they have Steve hovering over him getting trusted with the knowledge of Eddie's shitty father and not only is it a glimpse of Eddie's life but it's also a glimpse of just how shit this situation is for the boy and the scene ends with Steve being flirted with!!! and made to drive the vehicle eddie got them.
And I know this is Steve telling Nancy this but his dream? his dream is having a family and someone to be with him and coparent with him and the entire season we've been shown how good Eddie is with the kids, how Eddie is known for taking in kids that don't fit and need protection and giving them a place to be themselves. The fact that Steve specifically talking about having a gigantic vehicle to troop into when seconds before Eddie got him that vehicle.
(Honestly just a side note but this would be the most wholesome development too because Steve comes from a neglectful "perfect" family and he thought he'd want that too but with love and instead he gets this insane and messy found family, with people who love and adore him and its a great way to subvert the trope and a great arc for a character who began his story being the rich douchebag jock.)
Even after that when Steve sits with Robin and talks about romance and how he gets that it's not the most important priority and he has hope still and it really could've just focused on Nancy if that's all they wanted but it also shows Dustin and Eddie playing around and goofing off.
(Small side note again is how even when Nancy is sitting there talking to max she's still making weapons she's thinking about defeating vecna but Eddie even when he does makes weapons, and his weapon matches Steve's for fucks sake, he makes it a game he's playing with the kids and unwinding them).
And when they start their plan it's still Steve that hangs back and specifically tells Eddie he doesn't have to be a hero and they should stay safe, the both of them. And even when he turns to leave Eddie still calls him back the way romantic pairings do for goodluck except here they're not a thing yet and he just says give them hell.
All this to say is that my point is that even if you  take away how Joe Quinn played Eddie (and that's not to say he didn't do a phenomal fucking job), take away how he was all up in Steve's face and how they looked at eo like that, it's still the way a romantic pair gets set up, it's still the narrative pushing them together. It is not wrong of queer people to have seen a story centering a freak being hunted, see him accepted, see him in situations where if he was a girl this would've definitely lead to romance and then being upset when it didn't happen.
I thought I'd already said everything I had wanted to about this season but then I realised that queer people seeing steddie and shipping them together have been downplaying Steve and Eddie's interactions because of how we're constantly never thought of possibly being represented and we're constantly being told its just us seeing it and how one frame with two ppl of the same gender makes us crazy shippers when in reality the narrative really well and truly did set it up.
I'm tired of seeing queer people beat themselves up and disclaimer themselves because heterosexuals would shrug off any kind of romance between anyone that isn't a man and a woman because it wasn't explicitly spelled out for them, or shown in their standards of how a Queer relationship would've been. It is gay, it was gay and it will be gay regardless of the homophobic writers, regardless of what heterosexuals think and we aren't wrong for seeing it and wanting it.
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Ok so I know nobody cares about empires musical anymore but I was re-watching it and here’s all the lore I could find in your old friend xornoth:
* He seems convinced that when he succeeds in world domination, the world will be his. Either this means that exor is little more than an idea and xornoth is the one truly in power here, or it’s a Darth Vader-palpatine type situation where he thinks he’s doing it for himself but it’s all going to go to exor in the end
* He refers to himself as “big daddy xorxor… or for short xorny” which is hilarious I’ll admit, but he also uses the line “that’s what they call me”. That’s what who calls you? There are two possibilities. The first is that he’s referring to the people in his life before he became the demon. However, this is unlikely because he uses call in present tense, implying that he still has contact with these people. The other option has to do with “demon high school and demon college”, which I’ll touch on later
* Here we have the lines “pour me out some ichor/fill it to the brim/blood’s getting thicker/sippin’ as I sin”. I don’t believe this has much to do with the actual lore, but it is really funny to me because it sounds like a thirteen year old who just got back from hot topic and decided that they are the most tortured soul in the universe. Does demon college have demon hot topic? A question I never thought I’d have to ask myself
* Here we also have some fun lines, “you’ll learn, I’ll never return/to the boredom I was born of” which I find funny bc it makes me imagine that the former king and queen of Rivendell got bored one day, fucked, and xornoth came out
* Ok this might be my favorite part. In Lizzies pinned comment, she says “backing vocals by Maddie”. I am going to assume that the voice we here next is this Maddie. Maddie might be the best thing ever come out of music, in my opinion. For anyone who doesn’t want to look up the lyrics or doesn’t have them memorized already, she says “Scotts in the library getting kinda wise/says he’s got a plan for xorxor’s demise/xorny doesn’t care though/says he isn’t scared so/read a book, try your luck, xorny doesn’t really give a - “.
* Now, this is far from the first time we’ve heard Maddie‘s voice in the musical. She has a very high voice and has done backing vocals throughout practically all of the songs. It almost sounds childish, making her parts exceptionally funny.
* It is worth noting that your old friend xornoth is the only time that she actually speaks any words. What makes her especially interesting is that it seems that Xornoth, unlike the rest of the cast, can hear her. Once she says her bit about the library, Xornoth seemingly replies to her with “for your information I’ve got an education/Scott never showed up to my graduation/first demon high school then demon college/where’d you think I got all of this demon knowledge/demon University top of every class/you think you can catch me in a little bit of glass”. He goes on, but after this he’s not addressing Maddie so I’m gonna ignore it for now.
* I kind of wanna mention that he says the phrase embellishing my lore here, implying that he knows that he’s part of a story, but that kind of tears down absolutely everything else I know about this universe so I’m just gonna assume it’s an Easter egg and ignore it
* Also that in the lyrics he does the thing where you use an apostrophe to put two words together I don’t know what it’s fucking called but it almost sounds like he has a southern accent and that’s kind of funny to me
* Anyways back to Maddie. Xornoth does the chorus of the song again and then Maddie fucking giggles and says “look what they’re doing now writin’ out a spell/The demon from the east is goin’ back to hell/got a list of things that’ll make xor cower/they’ve got the smarts and they’ve got more power”.
* Maddie does the almost southern apostrophe thingy
* In reply, xornoth says (while approaching the empire characters, might I add) “if you want power well Xornoth’s got some/I pack more punch than a sawn-off shotgun/i’ve got more action than die hard 2/and your little faction’s a try hard crew”. I almost want to believe that this means the in-game empire‘s characters can hear Maddie too. However, they don’t seem to react to her at all. Therefore, I think that this is just her almost telling him what to do or giving him ideas for his speech. The more I say this the more it seems that the mysterious disembodied Maddie and Xornoth are friends.
* Also I’m not sure what to do with the modern day references. Maybe the way we have fairytales about like elves and knights and shit they have fairytales about our world?
* As xornoth continues on with his chorus, Maddie starts adding in her own comments between his lines. Her words go as followed: “trap him in a cell and keep him off the streets/listen to him yell, they’re tamin’ the beast/charmed like halliwell, never be released/yeah! Headin’ back to Rivendell, cookin’ up a feast”
* It is at this point that I actually googled the lyrics and realized that Maddie does not, in fact, do Xornoth’s apostrophe thing. I am ignoring this for the sake of my own interpretation. You’ve heard of the world is your oyster? Get ready for canon is your oyster.
* I looked up halliwell here. Apparently she’s a singer from Spice Girls and under people Also ask, it said Who is the most powerful charmed one so I’m assuming this is just another modern reference
* I have never heard a Spice Girls song in my life but I think it’d be funny if they still existed in the universe except they were like from one of the kingdoms or some shit. Maybe Spice Girls is like a famous Rivendell band I don’t know. I’m just making shit up at this point btw
* Let’s get back to Maddie. I feel like saying she’s just Xornoth’s friend is a bit misleading at this point. I would almost label her as a younger sister. Due to my general lack of knowledge about her abilities, the mysteriousness around her, and the childishness of both her voice and the things that she does I almost feel the need to compare her with the collector from owl house. I wish I could fit her simply into the lore by saying that she’s xornoth‘s friend from demon high school and/or demon college, but since he has to explicitly tell her that he went there I don’t think that’s the case. She spends most of the story hanging around Lizzie, as evidenced by her appearance in the vocals of other songs. However Lizzie never mentions her, so I have to assume that Lizzie cannot hear her. Whether or not Lizzie knows that she’s in a musical is not some thing I’m willing to tackle at this point.
* I feel the need to draw comparison also to oli. He doesn’t show up in this song, but he’s present in some others. In prismarine, he almost seems like he’s asking Lizzie about this experience, or she’s telling the story to him. He also voices the prophecies. It seems odd to me that Lizzie would be able to hear him when she couldn’t hear Maddie, but perhaps there is some kind of difference between them, or they can choose who can hear them. Though I find the second point unlikely because there’s no real reason Maddie would choose to not have the other characters hear her. Perhaps they’re some kind of minor gods? We know that Lizzie is often called a goddess so it’s not unreasonable to think there might be others. I’m not entirely sure about this, but it does tickle my brain in a fun way
* Now it’s time to talk about demon college. Oh this is a fun one. I know that everybody and their mother has made jokes about this but I feel like it raises some really interesting questions. Xornoth is clearly upset that Scott didn’t show up to his graduation, but explicitly states that it’s Demon high school and demon college. As far as we know, Scott is very specifically the champion of aeor. There is no reason for him to be here. I feel like there are two possible answers here. The first is that Scott truly was set to be on the same path as his brother, but broke free. However, this doesn’t really add up with the rest of his lore.
* The second one, and the one that I like better, it’s a bit more complicated. It says that exor wanted to train his champion in a way that wasn’t too different from what he was used to as to not make the change to sudden. This could also be just to help him with his people skills so that he would be able to give dramatic villainous monologues instead of stumbling when he first sees a human being again. Therefore, I propose that exor took the existing, Rivendell, elven High school and college and made an illusion of it that instead taught things that a demon would need to know. It would assumingly we have all the same people as the real one. Therefore, our old friend xornoth could mean that the illusion Scott didn’t come to his graduation bc the real one wouldn’t to make it more realistic.
* This also implies that at some point both Scott and xornoth were college kids. Do with that what you will.
* This also brings the line of “Big daddy xorxor/that’s what they call me/or for short xorny” into question. He might be referring to Maddie and/or oli. However, it might also be a college nickname. I like these both because they’re equally funny
* Actually now I’m thinking about the top of every class line. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe actually Exor just takes a shit ton of kids every year and puts them into a school program and then the one that ends up being the best is chosen as his champion and the rest of them make like I don’t know a town of evilness. Now I wish the empires crew just randomly stumbled upon that and they were like what the fuck is going on here
* The fact that Scott didn’t show up to his graduation implies that they’re not twins btw I just realize that
* Still not sure how Maddie fits into any of this but I love her anyways
* In conclusion: holy shit I need to do this more often this was really fun
Anyway I just thought I’d share this it’s not very coherent but I like it
holy shit anon you have done. SO MUCH analysis here.
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Happy STS, and happy belated birthday! How do each of your characters feel about their birthdays? (If your world doesn’t do birthdays, then I guess…*if* they did?) Do Resh, Carr, Nykim etc. care much for celebrating? What about Alaia, Serin, Kadin, etc. (OK I know they’ve literally all got bigger problems…but if they didn’t 😂) Does your world have any traditions related to birthdays, anniversaries, and the like?
Happy belated STS, Kate! (and thank you!)
Uhhh. Hmm. Okay. I have not needed to address a bday inworld, so I have not um, worldbuilt anything surrounding them 😅
I don't even know when most of their bday's are. Actually, Alaia is the only one, and its vaguely mentioned as being during the spring solstice. Hers was important bc of plot, but nobody else's is, so I've never given them one lol She only cares about it in-so-far-as it means freedom. Or would have XD
Kadin, Serin, Darian, Resh, Orla would've grown up in happy childhood homes and probably have happy memories surrounding their bdays. Well, maybe not Kadin. The seraph don't really measure the passage of time like the other races do. Hmm.
Nykim probably has no happy memories of his childhood, so I doubt bdays mean much to him. He probably doesn't even acknowledge them aside from marking them as yet another year closer to death.
Of all these people, Carr probably is the only one who doesn't know when her bday is. I doubt her mother ever celebrated it, let alone mentioned it, and she found herself on the streets at a young age. Perhaps Resh can help her choose one later on; he would certainly care about bdays :)
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