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foxes-that-run · 4 days
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I have also lost track of who left who in Haylor and is it over now? I guess we will just have to wait for one of their autobiographies 50 years from now for it all to be declassified // 1989 was completed in February 2014 right? All of the vault songs were written before that. Throughout 1989 we see Taylor's anxiety because there wasn't stability in their relationship it's probably because Harry was still young and didn't know what he actually wanted from her until he lost her forever in 2015. I don't think Harry ever intended to leave but Taylor's anxiety over him being seen with so many girls is part of why he left or she left. But they were back together in 2014 and i think she was the one who left that year and it might have to something with that model Harry was linked with (in November first i think). Maybe she was tired of hiding and didn't wanna go public because she'd be treated the same way she was before because she was dating him. And she was 25, it's totally understandable if she wanted more from a relationship...safe and stable.
The safe and stranded line from Down Bad is referring to all the times she chose someone else, safer options, older supposedly more mature guys over Harry and he didn't fight for her and i think she wanted him to fight for her but he didn't. Instead he just let himself drown in jealousy sadness and drugs. Question...? and Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus reference this too....him watching and not fighting for her as she chose Calvin then Tom and then Joe. Though I don't think she would give up on Joe at that time even if he fought for her or asked her to come back. She'd have given up Calvin in the beginning of their relationship if Harry came back but he didn't. I think at the end of tayvin she was mad at Harry so she wouldn't chose him. Think April 29th was the last time they saw each other and had a fight (just a gut feeling). Probably this is what Harry meant by "we haven't spoke since you went away". Could be about BVI break up but I also have a feeling that keep driving is inspired by that day. Like they went to some place far from LA for drive or a hotel/motel after she left the party and spent the whole day together that ended in fight and they came home in the evening. Again just a gut feeling. Idk it somehow makes sense to me. Because Harry and Taylor met at Ed's wedding after so long and then he released Fine Line on her birthday, maybe they started talking after that and they were revisiting old memories (loml), promises and mistakes and hurt and other things and that's why Taylor started creating stories based on those memories for folkmore and at the same time Harry was also writing about talking to someone all night.
Also illicit affairs definitely took place around tayvin because i think Taylor and Joe's problems were not big enough (but they were there in small doses like every other couple) until 2020, after folkmore writing sessions and it's kinda obvious how she would have wanted this to work because, as she said in Peter, her fantasies about a life with Harry had expired by the time they got back in touch. Don't think physical cheating was involved in 2020 because obviously quarantine but also she didn't wanna risk her stable life. But after she wrote evermore (rwylm especially) maybe Joe was insecure about Harry after Fine Line and from all the songs of folkmore and he might've had idea that they were talking even if it's just as friends. I think he got distant and then problems started to become big. And Taylor was trying to work things out so maybe she stopped talking to Harry until they met at the grammys. He looked nervous while approaching and it felt very formal. I think this was the day satellite is about...
You got a new life (writing songs with her boyfriend)...
Am I bothering you (the hesitance in the way he came and talk to her makes it clear that he second guessed talking to her, but there wasn't any other way to talk since she wasn't speaking to him anymore)
Do you wanna talk (again he wants to talk but not sure if she wants that)
I can see you lonely down there (she was alone her partner wasn't there with he)
Don't you know that I'm right here (he again tells her that he's gonna be there, he's gonna come get her if he wants, which is what he might've told her verbally when they were talking after Fine Line....if you think you've got it wrong with you boyfriend just tell me and I'll come and get you)
There's so many more things that makes sense to me from this album because of how I interpreted haylor's relationship in my head. Which funny because these are thoughts and most likely million miles away from reality. But who cares at this point, everyone is reaching so why can't I.
Also sorry for this long ass essay
Thanks anon… I think it played out a little differently, I have that in year timelines.
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cowboylikedean · 11 months
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I’ve compared this to Calvin a lot and on my drive home, I realized why. It’s not just because that was the last time Taylor dated someone cut and dry shitty, it’s because it’s when I learned a valuable lesson... And that lesson is something all sides of the fandom desperately needed to hear then, and they need to hear now.
So here it is:
Two people who are dating each other are two separate people who just happen to be dating each other.
It sounds like such simple logic, but it can be hard to internalize. And I don’t just mean that about Taylor. I hate my mother’s husband... And I love my mom. And it’s hard sometimes to reconcile those things. It’s more complex the more commitment there is and the closer you are to one or both people... but it’s always true.
Back in the tayvin days, I had such a hard time understanding how Taylor could date him. I remember, I would imagine meeting them and I just knew that he’d be the kind of person to laugh at my pronouns and gender and say I was a little girl trying to be special. When he liked that transphobic instagram post, I was so fucking gutted. I remember literally crying into my pillow trying to understand how she could love him and still claim to love me. 
It took me a very long time to understand, but I get it. What was going on is that Taylor and Calvin did not share a whole lot of values. High Infidelity tells that story pretty clear... They had different ideas of love, of marriage, of family, of work, of success... So it stands to reason that Taylor and Calvin had different values about trans people and people of color too. Calvin may have made a racist joke at a brown man’s expense in an airport, but Taylor wouldn’t do that! Nor would she support it!
See when talking about two separate people who happen to be dating, you need to remember that these two people have their own thoughts, feelings, opinions, values, attitudes, actions, agency, tolerances, histories, baggage, context, lives. None of that can be equated.
Now often, it is the case that who you’re with and you share values. Relationships work a lot better if you do... But a) not all relationships are meant to be long term b) not all relationships are good. Taylor and Calvin had a god awful relationship that made her feel like she was trapped and she had to break free. He was a prison. They did not have a good and healthy relationship. Bad relationships often carry mismatched values.
So Taylor and Calvin did not hold similar values, which is why she could love him and claim to love me. He would never love me. He would hate me. But she is not him. She and he had very different values.
So applying that here, it stands to reason that Matty and Taylor do not share a value system. There is literally nothing that indicates they do share a value system. Tree’s words have been very intentional to let us and the public know that this is not a serious relationship... So it’s causal, that decreases the impact of a mismatch in values. Taylor’s words have been contrary to Matty’s so many times. All of those things that people are feeling hurt by, all those contradictions.... That’s indicative they do not share a value system, not that Taylor didn’t mean those words.
I just... took a long time to get here. But two people that are dating are two separate people who are dating. And that’s kinda.... all there is.
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bisluthq · 2 months
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ok if joe widows are the ones still at the restaurant what are the ones that enjoy mild thirsting for the scrawny blond man called? i'm just a bi slut at heart ❤️
just… joe’s fans? Like… normal people? Who happen to like Joe? Y’all you really don’t have to stop liking someone because someone else broke up with them lmfao. (Not to you anon but like just in general i wish Swifties recognized this). You literally don’t even have to start disliking someone who an irl person you know broke up with (we’ve discussed this right like it’s fair to stay friendly with your friends’ and family members’ exes and legit be friends with them provided nothing heinous/atrocious happened). You really don’t owe loyalty to celebs lmfao. We used to talk about this back in the day - i have/had an anon (still have I think because she gave an update on Aarika and her children’s book lmfaooo) who likes Calvin. She became a fan of his while Tayvin was a thing. She acknowledges Calvin was a bad boyfriend at the end. But he wasn’t HER bad boyfriend and he’s still attractive to her and he’s objectively funny and he regularly makes dope tunes. Why would someone need to stop liking him because he sucked as a bf to someone else??? Idk guys let’s all (anon I don’t think you meant it this way but there’s enough Twitter weirdness for a need for clarification) collectively be less weird lmao.
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youareinlovees · 3 years
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"There's a lot of parallels between the two relationships." Ya there really are! She wrote better man about jake but imo, based on the fact that she mashed it up w tiwycf and cried performing said mashup, I think she associates that song w calvin. Both of them seem to be asses who made her feel really insecure about herself and stepped out on her, but despite all that they did really like/love her and were pretty obsessed w her or at least sex w her
For sure. Like they both wanted her to make herself smaller so they could feel better about themselves, and hated that she was way more successful?
And she's talked about tolerate it and how she was pulling from past experiences where she did feel taken for granted, and although it's not a direct play-by-play, imo it's partly inspired by feelings she had during those two relationships.
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acoolchickouthere13 · 4 years
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Hey. I saw your comment about Cornelia Street possibly being Elizabeth street. Do you have a full more detailed song analysis of it being about time spent at Karlie’s place and not about time spent in the apartment Taylor rented?
I don’t have any evidence of it, it’s just purely speculation. But, there are a couple reasons why I say it’s a fun, creative possibility it’s written about (1)spending time at Karlie’s apartment on Elizabeth street in early 2014(January-March), as opposed to (2)the time at Cornelia St. (May/June 2016-early 2017(so about 6 months to one single year))
So let’s look at the first hypothetical scenario: (1) spending time at Karlie’s apartment on Elizabeth street in early 2014(January-March)
A) the simplest reason that it started out as just a fun, comical thought was “they have the same syllables!🤪” but then I was like “wait a minute...”
B) at the end of Cornelia St. there’s sounds of a storm...which could be the sound of the “perfect storm” of Clean.
C) In “...Ready for It” it talks about “let the games begin”...and in Cornelia St. it says “back when we were card sharks playing games, I thought you were leading me on.”
i. This also makes me believe RFI is also written early on. I do believe it’s a song of duality and sarcasm, as others have also speculated. The verses being her bombastic media alter ego and the chorus being her real self. AND, in the RFI chorus the original lyrics were “in the middle of the night in my dreams, that’s when I get to be with you; you’re so sweet.” —-> wildest dreams is all about dreaming of being with someone, not to mention the liner note HE ONLY SAW HER IN HIS DREAMS, so is “Sometimes I wonder when you sleep Are you ever dreaming of me?” in Delicate, which leads me to believe all 4 songs (Delicate, Wildest Dreams, ...Ready For It, and Cornelia St.) refer to the dreams about the NEW relationship. (“Every night with us is like a dream” in New Romantics also seems like a duality sarcasm song)
ii. Speaking of “NEW”!!... “Sacred new beginnings”
D.) Lyric analysis:
- “We were in the backseat Drunk on something stronger than the drinks in the bar.” Could this be the same bar in Delicate? “Dive bar on the east side where you at?”
- "I rent a place on Cornelia Street" I say casually in the car. Now I know this song in general is in first person but it could be written from Karlie’s perspective. I think Welcome To New York is written from Karlie’s perspective(“you” being Taylor and “me” being Karlie), and I think the same goes for This Is What You Came For(“she” being Taylor). I have no reason to believe the “I” in Cornelia St. isn’t Taylor...but I also have no reason to believe it isn’t Karlie.
- “We were a fresh page on the desk” resonates again like “sacred NEW beginnings.” Like a new relationship, also “page” is referenced again in NYD
- To me, “Filling in the blanks as we go” has the same echo as “we can’t make any promises now can we babe?”(Delicate) and “don’t read the last page”(New Year’s Day)—-Sidenote: I also think NYD is talking About the rebirth that resulted from “Clean”
- “As if the street lights pointed in an arrowhead leading us home.” This line is recognising the place in the song(wether it be Karlie’s apartment on elizabeth st. Or the place on Cornelia st.) as a place they both recognise as home. “Home” is also regurgitated in I Think He Knows: “I think he knows When we get all alone I’ll make myself at home And he'll want me to stay.” —— ITHK is also a song I perceive to be written early in their relationship, after Wildest Dreams. Where it’s still delicate but Taylor thinks Karlie knows Taylor is invested. “we can follow the sparks I’ll drive. so where we gonna go?” Sparks indicate newness, and I think it’s them planning Big Sur, especially since Taylor drove
- “I get mystified by how this city screams your name”, now, Karlie, as we all know, is allll over NYC career wise and billboard wise lol and, maybe the wonderful enchantment and awe of it never ends and is always amazing...but it could also be the beginning of them knowing each other, finding out this new person you’re into IS all over NYC, it IS mystifying
- “I'm so terrified of if you ever walk away.” The “walking away” is expected when they meet, in Wildest Dreams...but I think this line signifies a turning point for their commitment being more substantial. Saying the possibility of Karlie walking away is possible but terrifying
- “Windows swung right open, autumn air.” Now this fits with the 2016 timeline, and it could very well be true...or it could be an edit to make it fit more with the Joe timeline. If she were really talking about Elizabeth street, it would’ve been during winter...which, is when jackets are worn lol “Jacket 'round my shoulders is yours”
- “We bless the rains on Cornelia Street.” This makes me think of Spring time(April showers bring May flowers)...but neither 2016 or 2014 shows Spring being a season when they lived on either street. So maybe rain is metaphorical in this sense. I’m not sure how though
- “Back when we were card sharks playing games, I thought you were leading me on.” Assuming this was written about early 2014, “games” is reiterated in multiple songs, as I said before. “Baby let the games begin”(RFI), “cat and mouse for a month or two or three”(paper rings) “I’m about to play my ace”(New Romantics).
- “I packed my bags, left Cornelia Street Before you even knew I was gone.” Taylor spends time with Karlie from potentially as early as December/early January 2014 until presumably ~Jan. 27-~Feb 1st, 2014 when she returns back to the Red tour in London.
- “But then you called, showed your hand. I turned around before I hit the tunnel; Sat on the roof, you and I.” They confessed feelings and sat on Taylor’s roof together, which is reiterated in King of My Heart: “is this the end of all the endings?...all these nights we’re spending up on the roof...” Then Taylor goes back on tour, and since she’s happily in a new relationship(or stabilism to say the least), she probably pens “I Forgot that You Existed” and “Clean” about being in London on the Red tour from ~Jan. 28- ~Feb. 9, 2014 at the same time as Dianna and she didn’t even think of her.
- “You hold my hand on the street, Walk me back to that apartment. Years ago, we were just inside”- now assuming this is written in 2014 about 2014 it’d be “months” ago...and if it were written 2018 about early 2014 it’d be “years ago”
- “Sacred new beginnings That became my religion.” I think this is echoed again in Don’t Blame Me, which I think in part is about the trip to Big Sur, and about getting a new publicist.
- “I rent a place on Cornelia st. I say casually in the car.” Honestly I have no idea why the song opens AND closes with this sentence. Is the opener past tense and the closing line present tense? Is the opening line supposed to be Elizabeth at and the closing line Cornelia?? I dont know lol
NOW, let’s look at the second hypothetical scenario and say this song was (2) written in 2018 about May/June 2016-early 2017(so anywhere from about 6 months to one single year))
A) at the end of Cornelia St. there’s sounds of a storm...which could be the sound of “the storm that’s coming” in Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince
B) Lyric analysis:
- “I rent a place on Cornelia Street" I say casually in the car. I dont know why this would be said casually as if to seem cool if they were dating for two years at this point, unless it’s casually in an expected sense
- “We were a fresh page on the desk Filling in the blanks as we go.” So renting Cornelia street happened right after Tayvin ended and right as Hiddleswift started(knowing what that outcome was going to be, and knowing Joe was the ultimate long term goal from a PR perspective) so they had everything mapped out, a fresh page (“paper thin plans”(DBATC))
- “I get mystified by how this city screams your name” like I said earlier, maybe the amazement never ends or gets old
- “I'm so terrified of if you ever walk away” after so much time spent together like two years it would be terrifying if this significant person walked away
- “Windows swung right open, autumn air” this does follow the timeline of 2016
- “We bless the rains on Cornelia Street” I still think this is metaphorical because spring of 2016 also isn’t a time when they lived at Cornelia st.
- “Back when we were card sharks, playing games I thought you were leading me on” probably reminiscing on the games being played in the beginning of 2014 two years ago
- “I packed my bags, left Cornelia Street Before you even knew I was gone” i dont know why you wouldn’t tell your long term partner of two years you’re leaving the place or why they wouldn’t know, but the rental of Cornelia st ended in early 2017. Maybe it was to avoid the paps and press
- “But then you called, showed your hand I turned around before I hit the tunnel Sat on the roof, you and I.” I dont know why you wouldn’t know the hand of someone you’ve been seriously dating for two years...
- “You hold my hand on the street Walk me back to that apartment.” Taylor and Karlie didn’t have much, if any, PDA in 2018 so I’m not sure what it’s referring to here
- “Years ago we were just inside.” So heres where it makes me thing it was written about 2014. Even if this were written in 2018 about 2016 it would baaarely qualify for “years ago”, especially since moving out was early 2017
- “‘I rent a place on Cornelia st. I say casually in the car’” I still don’t know why this is repeated at the end
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All my thoughts surrounding the Evermore album so far
For the first time in forever, I went into an album refusing to write down any notes or whatever about how I felt upon the first listen and really just let it sink in. Even when ranking the songs, I did it by gut feeling and refused to elaborate. But being over 24 hours and a dozen listens in and basically having the same opinions and thoughts, I felt it was time to put out everything I feel so far.
Basically this post is going to go over not only my thoughts on and relationship to the songs of Evermore, but how I feel about it as an album and specifically a sister album to Folklore. So I hope you enjoy it.
What I think of Evermore as a whole/it’s relationship with Folklore:
Truth be told Evermore is currently quite low on my Taylor album rankings. This isn’t to say I didn’t enjoy it and definitely is not me saying I didn’t like any of the songs. But the environment of an album and ability to get something out of listening to the songs all together and in order that you could not otherwise get is important to me to the point it’s my favourite thing about listening to albums. And right now? Outside of Tis The Damn Season and Dorothea, it’s just not there for me. In many ways, that has made Evermore very similar to Speak Now and Lover vibe wise to me in that it feels like an array of great songs as opposed to a perfect album experience like RED, Reputation and even Fearless feels to me. So while I could absolutely see myself listening to most of the songs on this album for years to come, I’ve already found myself listening to the album itself out of order and focusing on my favourite tracks more.
I would also argue that the only reason Evermore is a ‘sister album’ to Folklore is because it’s by Taylor Swift. And that may sound weird, but hear me out. The fact of the matter is that the only ways in which this album and Folklore are more ‘sisterly’ towards each other than other albums is because they are similar production wise and both are at least partially based on the stories of others. I could name you an array of artists whose albums share these same qualities yet are not seen as sibling albums. And honestly, right now it feels like the only reason these two albums are being seen as sisters is because they have come from someone who has been expected to change sounds, vibes and everything else every ‘era’ because she has admitted in the past that she has a fear of people getting sick of her. In my honest opinion, Reputation and Lover feel more like sister albums to me than Folklore and Evermore. This is not to say that Evermore is a lesser album for not being a sister project to Folklore, it’s just not something a connection I’m feeling right now.
What I’m about to say next may sound like it contradicts with what I just said but as it is a personal connection and not objective, I feel like it doesn’t. For me personally, Folklore was predominately an album that opened up and described my trauma relating to losing my whole family while Evermore feels more like a recovery album. So on a personal level, they are other sides of the same coin and while that makes them sister albums to an extent, to me it was not the extent Taylor meant because obviously these songs were not written with me and my personal issues in mind.
With that in mind, if we’re going to compare Folklore and Evermore like many people have, I feel as if Folklore is the stronger album but Evermore has stronger songs. Basically as a full experience I prefer Folklore, but the songs I like off of Evermore I love more than the ones I like off of Folklore. At this point, I will also say I think I love the production of Evermore more than Folklore, but I can also see that being a mood based thing.
What I think of each individual song:
Willow: I’m going to be honest, I do not see the hype for this song. Like objectively it’s not a bad song, but there’s just not really anything drawing me back to it. While clever, the 90s line also threw me off a bit and feels kinda out of place with the rest of the song giving ancient/mythical vibes to be honest. It seems to be a hot take at the moment, but I also found myself bored with the music video and didn’t seem to love the fact that it is a continuation of Cardigan as much as everyone else. I did however appreciate the love interest being from an Asian background during a time when they are on the receiving end of racial villification. I will say I think the first chorus is the strongest part of the song.
Champagne Problems: I feel like this is going to be the song that is most consistently among my favourites for this album. While most of my other favourites are the deep cuts or bops that I need to be in the right mood for, Champagne Problems feels like a good mix that I can listen to any time. It’s also kinda been a blessing for me because the man I love told me upon listening to it that my fear of marriage and actions around that lately have made him worry that we’re going to end up like that which has really made me reflect today on the fact that my fear of not being good enough to keep him isn’t going to be fixed by holding him at arm’s length, it can only be fixed by working to be the better person I think he deserves. In terms of Taylor, I’ve heard some of you think that Tom proposed while they were together and that the ring in the LWYMMD video is actually reference to him and I’mma be real, if that’s the case, damn right she should have said no because they were together what, 2 or so months??? In saying that, as a general sister piece to Getaway Car in that they’re both about realising you don’t love the person you’re with as much as they love you, it’s a nice comparison and I could see it.
Gold Rush: Taylor girl, please go to therapy about not feeling good enough for your man and insecurities that he’s gonna leave you for someone else. You are absolutely good enough. Honestly, all up I feel like this song is the definition of good. It’s not something I’d seek out to listen to but it’s not something I’d skip if it came on. The production is definitely the highlight of the song for me.
Tis The Damn Season: This song really hits hard for someone still living in her childhood house in her hometown huh? I’ve seen a lot of people relate this song back to The 1, and to be honest, they both remind me of the same platonic relationship I once had and things I wish we had said to each other, so I can see that. Look in all honesty, this is just one of those songs where I cannot pinpoint what makes it so good because it’s everything. The production, the lyrics, the emotion; it all works together to make it an amazing song. When considering the album as a whole, I think Tis The Damn Season and Dorothea are the strongest sign of creating an environment and emotion given that they are songs about the same relationship.
Tolerate It: I get why this is track five, and much like Mirrorball off of Folklore, had it come out in 2018 or beforehand, it would have owned my soul and been my favourite song off of this album forever. But nearly everyone who has ever made me feel this way was purged out of my life no later than 2018 so I feel so far removed from it. While I understand the artistic choice for the second half of the song to be wordy and faster paced to the point of feeling offbeat because that’s how it comes off when you’re thinking of all the ways you can defend yourself and/or leave, I personally prefer the first half of the song far more than the second half due to its flow. Had I enjoyed the second half as much as the first, I think this would have been a tied favourite from the album. I’ve seen Swifties say this is a Tayvin and/or John/Taylor song and yeah to be honest, I feel that. I also love the intepretations surrounding it being a queer person and a queerphobic family member.
No Body No Crime: Upon first listen, this was an automatic tied favourite of mine. But, while I’ll still say it is, listening to it on repeat today made me feel like it’s something I need to listen to sparingly or it’ll get overplayed fast, much like Betty did on Folklore for me personally. This is another song I really don’t have much to say about because I love it all and it’s a bop. As a more general note, I will say that I agree with people that I wish Taylor’s vocal collaborations with women included them actually having a verse rather than feeling like backup singers for Taylor. But for what we got, I think Haim added a lot to this song with their ‘He did it’ sounding like Este’s ghost reassuring Taylor he killed her and Danielle’s ‘she was with me dude’ adding a lot of atmosphere to the song. In my mind, Este’s husband wasn’t planning to leave/kill her or move his mistress in but accidentally killed Este as she tried to leave him. Either way though, it’s a great song and I can definitely see why it’s a fan favourite.
Happiness: This was my other tied favourite upon my first listen. When thinking of Taylor, I tend to agree with people that this song is probably about Scott and recoving from leaving Big Machine. When considering what it means to me... well it’s complicated. Truly, I want to reach a point where this is what I think of my family. I hope someday I can get there. But for now, it is another self love song; as if I am talking to my pre and/or newly traumatised teenaged self at age 25. This probably sounds weird but I also love that it’s my favourite while being the longest track (so far, obviously we don’t know about bonus tracks) of the album because there’s something so special to me about Taylor’s longer tracks.
Dorothea: A cute song. That’s really all I can say. Again, I love it’s connection with Tis The Damn Season and it makes me smile thinking about that platonic relationship these songs remind me of. Really just in general this song makes me happy and is probably the one I could see myself randomly singing around the house the most.
Coney Island: Honestly I like the idea/message behind this song more than I like the song itself. Like the idea of not appreciating something until its too late reasonates with me and again, is something I wish the ex friend Dorothea reminds me of would tell me they feel, but obviously I cannot change that. I’ve seen posts about how the bridge of this song was inspired by John, Jake, Harry and Calvin, but to be honest, in general this song feels very purely Tayvin to me, but like from Calvin’s (or at least what Taylor hopes is his) point of view. All up, I think the production of this song is its strong point and the reason that while it’s still not one of my favourites, it’s somewhat grown on me.
Ivy: Another hot take? This is another song that I just haven’t been able to get into. Like I like the idea that it’s the ‘tough’ parts of Invisible String where you have to take the leaps not knowing where you’ll end up, but yeah, I don’t know, it just wasn’t something that has caught my attention yet.
Cowboy Like Me: This song is a vibe. Like it’s the type of song I could see myself putting on while just wanting to chill or do something else at the same time, but I don’t feel like it’s something I’m going to opt to listen to on its own that much. Basically it’s as middle of the road track for me as they come. I will say however that ‘Now you hang off my lips like the gardens of Babylon’ has lived in my mind rent free all day.
Long Story Short: This song is so fun. I love that barring Folklore, I could see it being on any of Taylor’s albums since Fearless. It also reminds me of another non-Taylor song, but I can’t think of what and that has been bugging me all day. I saw a lot of people saying that they’re over Taylor talking about 2016, and personally while it’s not my favourite topic either, she’s free to write about whatever she wants and honestly? I feel like her more upbeat, funner sounding songs like this one have boded better with me when she first releases them ever since Lover so I’m glad she released it. Anyway, like I said, it’s another cute fun song that I can see myself dancing to in my room for a while yet and that makes me so happy.
Majorie: I’m gonna be honest, I feel like this is a song you have to relate to to love, and I do not relate to it. Like I think had my family shit not gone down, I would have cried to this thinking of my recently deceased grandfather because I felt the closest to him out of any family member as a kid, but yeah, that’s not how things are now and so I don’t have the emotional attachment to this song. I can however see myself getting it when my mother dies to be honest. But for now, it’s a sweet song and I get why people love it.
Closure: Remember how I said Happiness is how I wish I felt about my family? Closure is how I actually feel about them. To be honest, the fact that everyone seems to have this as their least favourite song from the album shocks me because I think it’s one of the most relatable. I’m also surprised so many of you feel like this is about Karlie given the sounds at the beginning and end sound like (Big) Machines and the second verse and bridge scream Scott to me. All up, I genuinely really like this song and feel like it’s the one with the most experimentation that works for the track despite the lyrical simplicity to be honest.
Evermore: Lyrically, this is my favourite track from the album. Production wise? ... well Taylor’s part is amazing. This is another song where artistically I appreciate how jaggered Justin’s voice makes the song because it works contextually at that part, but it’s a bit much for me in terms of wanting to have the song on repeat. Though it wouldn’t have had the same jaggered hence artistic feel, I do wish Justin had used his lower register because I feel like it would have suited the replayability of the song more. Regardless, it is another self recovery/reflection song for me and definitely one of my favourite (and perhaps the most socially relevant given how 2020 was for most people) closers from Taylor... though she always knocks those out of the park.
Final Thoughts:
Though not being my favourite overall album from Taylor, Evermore is a solid album with amazing songs. It is also an album I can see being a grower and/or mood based album. So with two songs still coming, I’m not about to rule it out as being something I won’t love more in the future. This is especially the when I know that even if I don’t get the environment I usually love from it, Evermore has so many amazing songs I can see myself listening to for years to come.
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taylortruther · 4 years
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Genuine question, please don’t kill me lol. I totally believe that famous people can hide pretty much anything they want. Like, if kaylor is real, they can totally find ways to meet up without being seen/photographed. But for someone like Joe, who isn’t famous and doesn’t have Taylor and Karlie’s resources, wouldn’t that be more difficult? I know that he’s not really a known face, but still... but wouldn’t it be easier for something to slip or for someone to photograph him with another girl/boy?
i won’t kill people for questions i hope y’all don’t think i’m mean lmao. 
i personally agree with you, yeah, about your entire ask. remember calvin? he was all up on social media and living his own life pretty publicly and it caused friction. the massage parlor thing, for example. his mysterious car crash for another. all the dumb shit he and his friends posted on social media about women before/during/after tayvin. same with matty healy--he was a loose canon, talking openly to the media about how weird it would’ve been to date her. even with harry--he had his own rumors about women, and louis, 24/7 and that was a huge stressor for taylor, in retrospect. 
so... let’s be real. taylor doesn’t want relationships she can’t control to some degree. joe is unknown and was probably very willing to play by her guidelines to be in a relationship with her. it helps that he is, evidently, not a clout-chaser in the slightest. and the songs where taylor is warning him she’s dangerous, and also asking if he is willing to take on that danger (through reputation, lover, and folklore) clearly address that imo. 
IDK WHAT I’M TRYING TO SAY HERE. except that no one is going to be able to find joe and photograph him ‘in the wild,’ especially now. he’s probably locked his private life down even tighter now that he’s with taylor. so imo taylor sees a lot of safety in his normalcy because he basically lives like a private citizen and they’ve both worked hard to protect that. 
so it’s difficult because they’ve both had to sacrifice some normalcy. but i think he gave up relatively little in comparison to taylor, given her public life before meeting him.
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calvin-af-crone · 5 years
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Don’t even bother reading it although it isn’t really that bad and it is still really vague who she is talking about though of course some swifties are always sure who she is talking about. They were only slightly outraged at Calvin so that was good. I think we should leave this all in the past. I don’t know about TS but Calvin is in a happy loving relationship. Everyone needs to move on.
"I learned not to let outside opinions establish the value I place on my own life choices. For too long, the projected opinions of strangers affected how I viewed my relationships. Whether it was the general internet consensus of who would be right for me, or what they thought was "couples goals" based on a picture I posted on Instagram. That stuff isn't real. For an approval seeker like me, it was an important lesson for me to learn to have my OWN value system of what I actually want".
I’ve put 2 messages together even tho they may not have come from the same anon because the top one makes little sense w/o the quote from the interview below it. How did any of her fans think this was about Calvin? Was “couple goals” only used during Tayvin? I honestly don’t know. 
The way I read the quote I believe what she’s saying equally applies to almost all of her exes. Most of them were/are famously attractive men & she pleased People magazine and her fans by being seen w/ them. 
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ohkimani · 5 years
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You were one of the most invasive fans during 1989 era. The fanfics you wrote were really explicit for tayvin. I get what your are saying about fans being invasive but hardly anybody is or if they are they aren’t that invasive as a lot of fans were during 1989 era. You’ve said that you’ve grown up and learned. Let them grow up from it and learn from themselves
we’ve been over this a zillion times my love, i KNOW i was one of the most invasive fans especially since i was a bored teenager with other bored teenagers egging me on but im not talking about young people who are being invasive now, it’s grown ass people who pay bills and shit lmfaoooo even back then there were whole ass adults tracking flights and what not. “let them grow up from it and learn themselves” sis how do you teach people who are already or almost 30 that their fave is a human being and some shit just aint their business? 
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boazpriestly · 5 years
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I feel like talking about the AquaHart Babies as adults because I think about them a lot and I need to write this shit down. 
If you don’t know who/what AquaHart is it’s an OC ship in the Hawaii Five-0 universe made up of Pete Hart, Freddie Hart’s younger brother, created by @hollandvalleybaptist and @pterawaters, and Nahuel Hart who was created by @hollandvalleybaptist. Pete’s portrayed by Travis Van Winkle and Nahuel is portrayed by Jason Momoa. You can find out more about them in these tags here, here, and here. (We reblog a lot from each other so there’s bound to be repeats in the tags.) 
The AquaHart Babies are Pete and Nahuel’s three sons, Freddie and Alika,  who are from a surrogate, and Kai, who they adopted. 
I have basically stolen these children and run away with them because I love them a lot. 
So like here are my thoughts on them as adults...
Freddie Hart
Freddie is aro/ace. He has absolutely zero interest in being with someone or having sex or having children. He prefers his alone time and finds dealing with others, besides his family, tedious and boring. He enjoys being alone and living in his house all by himself with his three dogs, two cats, and a parrot that quotes TV show lines at random times. 
He is also a librarian (his main section is the children’s books) and a tutor for middle schoolers. He is very patient and very soft-spoken, and working with children reminds him of all the times he spend helping his brothers with school when they growing up. He is a favorite at his library. 
He takes immense pride in being an uncle. His nieces and nephews are the highlights of his life and he will drop everything to be there for them if they need him to. He is on all their emergency contact lists and it is well known in their schools that if the parents can’t be reached for some reason (usually work), Freddie is who you call. He is also known as the baby/kid whisperer because not a single one of his four nieces and nephews have ever been held by him and continued crying. He has a very calming spirit and often times, especially now that his nieces and nephews are getting older, all it takes for them to calm down is holding Freddie’s hand or hugging his leg. But more often than not they want full on cuddles and Freddie is more than happy to oblige. 
Also, Freddie is a bad cook. Like he knows, in theory, how to cook because Nahuel is amazing at cooking and he taught all his sons, but Freddie is just bad at it. He doesn’t know why, because he can follow a recipe to the letter, but it will not turn out good. Ever. Luckily he has lots of family who can cook and are more than willing to stock his freezer with homemade meals. 
Alika “Ali” Hart
Ali has really bad ADHD and Dyslexia. He’s had it since he was a kid and Freddie was the first to notice and took it upon himself to help his brother to learn differently (Freddie would read Ali’s text book passages to him and also make recording so Ali could listen to them over and over again.) These difficulties mean that Ali does not have just one single job, it’s impossible for him to stick to one single thing. He has like five part time jobs that he splits his time with. He is a boxing instructor, a surf instructor, a line cook at his dad’s restaurant, an ASL interpreter, and sometimes he a personal fitness trainer (but he only does it in the summer and if he’s in the mood for it. He is not by any means the breadwinner in his family, but his wife Kalea makes more than enough money in her job that he can just do a bunch of jobs to keep himself occupied. 
Mostly though, Ali likes to be a stay at home dad to his daughter Ari. She is autistic and the love of his damn life. Ali and Kalea taught her sign language early because a) it’s her mother’s native language since Kalea is deaf and b) Ari is mostly non-verbal. And because Ali is very fluent in sign language, he and Ari are able to communicate very well together and Ali just things Ari is the best person he knows next to his wife. And he is a really great dad who encourages all of Ari’s interests and actively participates in them. Like one time Ari wanted to dress up to go to a movie, but she wanted to go as the prince and wanted Ali to go with her as the princess, so Ali was like, “Alright, let’s do this!” and went to the movie with Ari in her cute little tux and him in a beautiful poofy dress. It was magical and Kalea hung a picture of them at the theater in their costumes in a frame on their living room wall. 
When it comes to his wife, Ali is an absolute romantic and one of those husbands who loves his wife so much and just misses her when she’s gone and will leave an event early if it means he can go home and spend time with Kalea. She is his best friend (they are childhood sweethearts and Ali learned sign language just so he could speak to her) and he will talk to anyone who’ll listen about how much he adores his wife and is in awe of her. Their house is full of random items all over the place because Ali has a habit of buying stuff impulsively because it reminded him of Kalea. Like the brown wooden frog that sits on their lanai that Ali bought because it made him think of this one field trip they went on when they were like twelve and this tiny frog jumped out of a guide’s hand and landed on Kalea’s head and she just walked around for like 20 minutes that way before someone realized the frog was missing and Kalea just plucked it from her hair and handed it back to the guide and moved on to the next exhibit. Little things like that stick with Ali and when he remembers them he often buys whatever item made him think of it. 
There are three things that will quiet Ali’s mind so he is not bouncing around constantly: boxing, surfing, and cooking. Those three things are the only things where he will just relax, be calm, and focus completely. He can often be found doing at least one of these things late at night when he can’t sleep, or on the days when he’s just having a bad brain day. The only other thing that calms him down like that is being held by Kalea. 
Kai Hart
Kai is polyamorous and has three partners, two men (one cis and one trans), and a woman. The four of them have three kids together; his trans partner gave birth to one of their children. Neither Kai or his cis male partner, Adam, know which of them fathered which child and they plan on keeping it that way. They are a closed quad, meaning that neither of the four of them have partners outside of each other. They tried to but it just didn’t work, and through lots of communication they all decided that it would be best or all of them if it was exclusively just the four of them. They’ve been doing well that way for like six or seven years now. (The names of his three partners are Adam, Cymon, and Sierra, and the name of their children are Tayvin (boy), Erynne (girl), and Eden (girl).)
Kai works in his dad’s restaurant, and plans to take over when Nahuel retires. He fell in love with cooking at a very young age and was like Nahuel’s shadow whenever his dad was in the kitchen (his love of cooking is very different to Ali’s love of cooking. Ali loves it because it keeps his mind quiet, Kai loves it because he gets to create something from nothing and share his love of it with others through the dishes he makes). When he isn’t creating new things, he is perfecting his family’s recipes passed down through generations. He hopes to one day be able to not have to look at any of the recipes and just make them perfectly by memory. 
Kai’s favorite people to spend time with besides his fathers, his brothers, and his partners and kids, are his grandmothers (Nahuel’s mother and Pete’s mother). He loves hearing listening to his grandmas tell him stories about his fathers or about their lives when they were kids. They fascinate him so much and he has such a deep respect for both of them. But the one thing he loves the most is that they still love to do his long hair whenever he comes around. He’s like 6′2 with hair down to the middle of his back and they still act like he’s this six year old little boy and have him sit at their feet so they can brush and braid his hair and make it look awesome. 
Kai loves to sing. He’s inherited his musical abilities from Nahuel and he loves to sing. He’s been in several different bands growing up, but currently he just does solo stuff and sings at venues whenever he feels he’s got a song worth sharing. He has no dreams of becoming some big artist or anything. He just likes writing and singing his own songs which are usually about his family. He sings in English and Hawaiian, and like Nahuel, Kai has written and recorded a special, individual song for each of his children and partners. 
I have more about them, but as this is already really long I’ll stop here. 
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babylittlescarlett · 6 years
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Why Reputation is about a woman (ok, let’s just say it, about Karlie Kloss) – undeniable evidence, as I see it.
Ok, so I’m not gonna get into details or lyrics, that I think may be interpreted in many ways, for example ocean blue eyes looking in mine, because not only Karlie’s eyes are blue, Tom and Joe also have blue eyes. Instead, I wanna talk about evidence in Taylor’s writing, that – in my opinion – specifically point to the woman  (Karlie), and cannot be explain differently:
4. Big reputation, you and me we’ve got big reputations (…) you and me would be a big conversation – I’m sorry, but before Tayvin PR stunt I’ve never even heard of Cow… not to mention Joe. I did hear about Tom Hiddleston, but does he really have big reputation? I don’t think so. Hands down, Karlie’s reputation is bigger. As to big conversation… white girl with a white dude, both unmarried, what’s a big deal about it? Maybe if Taylor started dating Leonardo DiCaprio or Justin Bieber, that would be a big conversation. But if American Sweetheart, who started in country music and is known to GP for dating various guys and then writing song about them, was dating a woman… Well, I think then both of these women would be a BIG conversation
3. I don’t want you like a best friend – who did Taylor call her best friend? Do I need to remind you of this little video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCC7QvHOk84&t=47s
“Who is your best friend”? “Karlie Kloss!”
So this line in Dress has to refer to Karlie.
2. For you I would cross the line, I would waste my time – what line exactly is she crossing when she dates a dude? Is he married? No. Is it because he is younger/older? (Please!) But with a woman… well that’s a different story, especially in some circles. But I think that the line about wasting time is more important here. What is she referring to? When and why would she waste her time? Well, maybe her baby’s family is boring or unpleasant and she cannot stand being around this family but she has to in order to make her baby happy? Except this is Taylor we’re talking about… The same girl who spent 13 hours for meet and great…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s1kO6ND9BE
…and who invites people to her houses, who organizes special meetings with fans after concerts, etc. So her being cold to her baby’s family just doesn’t add up. So what’s the deal with wasting time??? Well, maybe in order to protect her baby and their love she wastes her time with dudes who are her beards… Instead of spending time with Karlie she has to pose with Calcium at the beach in few different swimsuits or go to Australia with Tom. She wastes her time with them.
1. And finally… the prologue from reputation magazine: When this album comes out, gossip blogs will scour the lyrics for the men they can attribute to each song, as if the inspiration for music is as simple and basic as a paternity test. There will be slideshows of photos backing up each incorrect theory, because it's 2017 and if you didn't see a picture of it, it couldn't have happened right?
How can Taylor be so sure, that each theory will be incorrect? I mean, if you date some guy then there is always a chance that somebody eventually will guess who it is, or take a photo, when you think nobody’s looking at you. Well there is only one way to be so sure: because your inspiration behind this albums in not man, or many men, it’s a woman.
Taylor must have been aware of the gay rumors and if she wanted to shut them up why she wrote:
scour the lyrics for the men they can attribute to each song
and not:
scour the lyrics for any person they can attribute to each song ?
That would include both men and women, wouldn’t it? But no, Taylor Swift, master of words and careful planning, decided to exclude in her prologue only possible men, not women.
And now, as a bonus, one hardly explainable one:
Call it what you want – Taylor doesn’t care, so all the world may refer to Karlie as her BFF, enemy, whatever. What is between them? Love, friendship? We can call I as we want, she doesn’t care. Of course one can said that it could also refer to Joe or any other guy, like: call it what you want, a quick romance, true love, PR stunt, whatever. But I think the latter is a stretch.
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roleweplay13 · 6 years
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Kaylor, an undeniable truth
So i’ve seen a lot o Kaylors posting about their experience regarding taytay and kaykay. Since its a new year, and dare I say a promising one, I want to share mine. So please join the ride and saddle up:
To be honest I didn’t know much about Taylor before 2014, I knew Love Story, but come on that song is a living legend and even my mother knows every word to it. To be fair, I’m from Spain, and country music isn’t exactly what you’ll call a popular genre among young people and the average consumer of Top 40 music. But 2014 came along, and 1989 arrived with its eighties throwbacks, and what can I say i fell in love. I looked for info everywhere, I wanted to know who this woman was and why on earth was she such a big deal??? 
I’m not ashamed to say I found out about Karlie thanks to Taylor, because I was enchanted by her, a young model, humble, who loved coding!!! Ok growing up I only thought of models as silly dolls with too much hunger in their bodies and too much room in their heads, which made me face the hard truth of how shallow was I to begin with.
So i watched this friendship, and for some reason it didnt sat right with me. I coundt shake off the feeling that something was off. Dont get me wrong, they were freaking cute together, but they were suddenly everywhere, and it seemed so random. So i read their interviews, how they’d became fast friends, very best friends, set up to be friends ( HELLOOOO I’VE BEEN SET UP ON DATES NOT TO BE FRIENDS!!!), having my own room in my best friends brand new apartment because I spent there half my nights, even though i live ten minutes away and have a steady boyfriend kind of friend  (this article on Rolling Stone was the very first red flag for me)
And Kissgate happen, and my friends and I talked about it, they knew I was a fan, and they asked me if this unfathomable idea of Taylor kissing another woman was remotely possible. And i actually didnt care if it was true, my family is catholic but me and my cousins have been raised to be very open minded and just kind to one an other, but still heteronormative is something very real, so around that time unless it was with proof and acknowledgement I wasnt easily sell on the idea. And that infamous tweet came along and i went with it, see it was just the media with their abrasive and violating ways. How, how ignorant and naive was i then.
And then came the fall out. How powerful is the media, how much control it has over us, when we are just mere rooks in their wicked and crafted game of perception. I fell for their trap, started hating taylor for the same inexistent reason stan twitter shields behind of now. I saw my perception of Taylor during 2015-2016 so brilliantly portrayed in the LWYMMD music video, that I’m still amazed by Taylor’s brain. I did kept up with Karlie mostly because my cousin is in finances and in love with her because of her brain, which mind you is a gigantic achivement, so I thought she was worth caring about. ( See told you, shallow much, still working on that)
i didn’t think much of tayvin and hiddelswift, Calcium has always been a mystery to me, cause i dont feel any attraction towards him, always has my skin crawling, and had a look on his face, that kind of made me feel sorry for him. Hiddleswift was a joke, and i thought either she was filming a music video, or had gotten pregnant and was recreating every relationship milestone in three months to make everything easier. Now i know why, but back the  i dindt know why watching taylor with her boyfriends always made me uncomfortable ( not guys, come on she and ed a disgustingly cute together in an asexual kind of way).
And finally this april, during my worst week of finals, looking for an inmature, totally irresponsable, but necessary scape I went to wattpad to procrastinate and waste my parents collage money. I was reading, when I thought  “lets see if there is someone as crazy as I was when i thought karlie and taylor were in love and in a secret relationship” Well hello TIMELINE. And I was so elated that i went to tumblr, to see if there was a community who shared my hopeless romantic dream that perhaps they were together at some point in 2014.
I spent three days on tumblr, read all the masterpost, found out about the VSFS, the AMAs, YAIL, cookies, Swiftgron, Taymily, everything....
I got out with a failed exam ( dont worry I passed it later on June), and too many hours of sleep lost, but I was happy, overwhelmingly happy, because the woman i once admired, and now hated and thought of as shallow and a snake, was someone much more complex and brave than i thought possible. Kaylor opened my eyes to how the world, the media, the perception controls us, and I was so so sorry for being naive.
So no I wasnt betrayed by Taylor, or thought of her as a fraud. I saw two resilient women who fought and did what they had to do to survive in a world and industry that otherwise wouldnt bow to. 
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cowboylikedean · 7 years
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Zoe help..Taylor means a lot to me growing up but I feel nothing about her works right now. im so scared that I don't like any of her songs and I feel like karma is getting back to me. I used to be so proud that I Stan someone who never make basic pop lyrics and i criticized Iggy azalea& stuff like that because Taylor is like the best but now she's rapping and making basic pop lyrics. im sure she knows what shes doing but zoe how do you cope with 1989 disconnect cos I'm having one w/ reputation
First let me say I really don’t think Ready For It i anywhere near Iggy Azalea. Thi album isn’t a rap album and she’s not putting on a blaccent. She’s experimenting with different pop music styles more than she is trying to steal another race’s culture... Which I think is am important distinction.
At any rate... Honestly, how I dealt with it is I just.. Talked about it. And I went to try to find people who feel similar. I need to create a tag for y’all so you can find each other because you’re not the first one to message me. I’ll do “reputation disconnect.” Just because I don’t feel that disconnect doesn’t mean I can’t give y’all a platform. 
How I got over the 1989 era is kinda talked about in my 1989 heal center tag... But mostly it was just... Distance. I unfollowed about half of my Taylor dash and I limited my interaction. I stopped looking at her likes and tumblr. I would wait a few days before reading, watching, or listening to an interview - if I consumed them at all. I limited how much I listened to 1989 as to not keep myself bitter. I distanced a lot and though that distance, I was able to get the space to find love again. The end of tayvin helped too. 
I hope there are more poetic lyrics on this album... the secret sessioners have been really adamant that there’s more lyrical depth on this album than 1989 so I think we need to just sit tight and remember there are 12 songs we haven’t heard. It’s tough and scary... But you can’t judge a 15 song album on 3 songs. 
Just try to remind yourself you don’t know everything yet, try to get some distance, and try to find people who feel similarly to connect to so you feel less alone. 
I’m sorry you’re going through this anon. It isn’t fun and it hurts like hell!
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astrology anon checking in, cause you were talking about Tayvin. And let me just tell you, seeing their birth charts and synastry is very easy to understand why he was her first like long lasting relationship. I know sometimes swifties kind of forget that, because Taylor seemingly forgot it too but yk. I would even go as far as to say he was her most well matched ex. And if you think he's so awful I'll have you know he and Taylor are very similar so by default...the fact that Taylor hasn't written much about him I don't think it's because there's this big trauma she has yet to unpack, but because the relationship was actually not as bad as she made us think and the ending part was the part that actually sucked more. A bit like Joe, he probably kind of checked out too or was over it. I think because they were similar to each other they kind of acted a bit like a mirror, so that's where the ego clashes and power struggles came into play. And also probably idealized the idea of who the other person was and that idea wasn't the reality. But like there's a lot of good stuff there. They have the same Mercury, Mars and unless birth times change it also the same moon. His Venus is in the same sign of her sun so there was this nice energy of admiration, appreciation of values...it's not like a sexual thing but more of harmony vibe overall.
I mean sure if u say so but I still want you to like do me.
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youareinlovees · 3 years
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I mean I think the Hiddles Experience was like good for a month because I feel like calvin did not care about her AT ALL during sex, but then it got like really boring and the novelty wore off and ya
I agree 🗿 (although I don't think Calvin was That Bad because otherwise she wouldn't have stayed with him for a year)
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February 15, 2016
1989 album wins album of the year at Grammys- “people try to take credit for YOUR accomplishments”:
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🖤Look What You Made Me Do🖤 (swift, antonoff, Richard fairbrass, Fred fairbrass, rob manzoli)- “it was definitely just, like, a fun moment in the studio with me and Jack [Antonoff] where I wanted to play on the idea of a phone call — because that’s how all of this started, a stupid phone call I shouldn’t have picked up.”(x)
“kingdom=crown(CIWYW)”. and it’s surrounded by 8 male bodygaurds(all her exes). She rebranded the jet that was about to take off as reputation. I think this was in part about her label, but mainly about the call with Kanye.
“Face the you you don’t know anymore...there’s a justice system in your head”(If You’re Anything Like Me)—-I’m starting to think “LWYMMD” is tongue in cheek to “‘MAKING’ her win a Grammy.”
In the music video:
-OOTW Taylor is the old, dead Taylor, because OOTW Taylor “found herself.” It’s also the last music vid of the 1989 era. She’s trying to bury Met Gala 2014 Taylor, which is the last public time we saw her before 1989 era. “Nils Joberg” is also on a tombstone dead, which I think means she won’t ever hide ownership of what she writes anymore. The $1 bill in the bath tub is representative of the court case.
“I had won album of the year at the Grammys for a second time…‘ oh my god that was all you wanted.’ You get to the mountaintop and you look around and you’re like ‘oh god. What now?’ I didn’t have a partner that I had climbed it with that I could high five. I didn’t have anyone I could talk to who could relate. I just wondered, ‘shouldn’t I have someone that I could call right now? [and share this with]?’ - MA doc(21:40) (PR concept for Tayvin...but they would’ve been an item for a whole year by the next month?...but her and karlie were also an item for a year March 2016?...). SO...I think the feelings said in that moment do the doc were real and I think it inspired her to think about getting married to Karlie(KOMH written about 3 months later)...and eventually propose to Karlie 7 months later!!
THREE YEARS LATER TAYLOR TALKS WITH ROLLING STONE AND SAYS THIS: “The Grammys happen, which is like this unbelievable blitz of excitement, followed by me going, ‘Oh my god, what am I going to make next?’ I had no idea what to make next, because I was so proud. 1989 — I’m still so, so deeply proud of that record. But I was like, where do we go from here? I have no idea what comes after this. And so, when my life took a very dramatic shift, all of a sudden I knew what to make next — which is a strange dichotomy to feel like, ‘whoa, this is all really weird, twisted, dark and dramatic, but I can’t stop writing.’ I think I would have made reputation whether or not I actually put out the album or ever made another album again. That album was a real process of catharsis, and I thought I experienced catharsis before, but I’d never had until that album, because it was creating this strange defense mechanism. And, I’d never really done that in that exact way before. The only way I’d done it in the past, was with “Blank Space,” which I wrote specifically about criticisms I had received for supposedly dating too many people in my twenties. I took that template of, OK, this is what you’re all saying about me. Let me just write from this character for a second.” (X)
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