if you’re a white 911 fan, i hope you’re not just scrolling past any of these accusations. we don’t get to look away from this and pretend it isn’t happening, and it’s not enough to silently agree with the posts and move on. fandom racism shouldn’t be written off as discourse and subsequently ignored because it doesn’t directly affect us or because we’re trying to curate an online experience; we owe it to the people of color here to not just be against racism, but to actively and vocally condemn the racism we see. especially with the current caliber of absolutely vile shit being posted, anything less than that isn’t good enough.
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Why do you even try anymore? You're a 30 YO woman pretending to care about paywall issues ruining a game, but you've lost your way and your blog doesn't even discuss the issue itself anymore. Instead you talk about meaningless crap, trying to point out oppression where it doesn't exist meanwhile doing nothing to combat oppression that actually ruins lives. You aren't the advocate you like to think you are. You're just a keyboard warrior who's achieved nothing but making yourself look more like a clown. Not every single thing is a product of racism and when you do constantly make into that, you make a mockery out of the issue and you're harming those impacted. And somehow I have a feeling you know this and don't care because you're inherently racist yourself, going as far as to weaponize it by using it as the backbone of your arguments as well as to discredit your detractors. This is not how you argue. If your arguments actually held some water, then you wouldn't need to use POC for your own narrative.
Man, this ask smells white... 🤔
Anyways, if you were trying to do something with this wall of obsessive nonsense, you failed. Feel free to waste more of your time in my inbox trying again if you like!
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re: the masculinity construct thing, especially from an anthropological perspective—french anthropologist emile durkheim did a study about why middle-class, white, protestant men were more likely to commit suicide than any other social group & it yielded fascinating results about the way masculine socialization (amongst protestant cultures especially) lends itself to isolation and loneliness.
and yet MRAs and other people focusing on the woes of masculinity never seem to bring that up, as though they're ashamed to admit that they've been wrong this whole time, or that perhaps moreso that they're ashamed to acknowledge that everyone else was right.
that's really interesting! I found it very odd how the screenshots I posted were the extent to which anthropological findings were discussed in the episode because we're clearly missing out on a lot of interesting discussion about all the racial and cultural differences in the way men are socialized. can't tackle everything in a 2 hr long podcast episode obviously...but honestly, this is the deepest I've heard anyone interviewed on the topic on a mainstream media platform get to discussing the emotional and relational stunting of patriarchal socialization, so it was frustrating lol
another point that was brought up was that women seem to have a more "diverse portfolio" (their words) than men do in terms of their ability to flexibly self-define, which also touches on something I find fascinating about this whole thing - I think you're right that there's an aspect of shame that comes with realizing you're not emotionally or socially equipped to address the limitations of your socially-prescribed gender role, one thing the MRAs miss is that this is something that marginalized groups have to actively realize and contend with, and that this "diversification" of self-definition and meaning is something we have to choose to pursue, get creative with, etc....but this requires you to acknowledge the root of the problem and name it, which can be incredibly painful work, especially if you're angry and there's plenty of people out there ready to validate your impulse to live in that feeling 🤷🏻♀️
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Hi, do you have any advice for someone who’s trying to make gender terms/other terms based on a story they’re making? Clarification: im wanting to make some in-world genders & identities for a world im making, said world has magic & the way magic is gonna work in this world- I believe would have some influence on how some of the people in that world view gender & such. Without spoiling anything, people can either be born with magical ability (tho they can choose not to use it) or they can use naturally occurring objects to do magic.
If this existed irl i think it would influence gender & identities & etc, in this world they would be real genders but in our IRL world then they could be used as- one of those fiction based xenogenders (of which I forget the name of). But i would just like some general advice as how to get started, please? Just- how to pick names for the identities, how to pick colors, things to think about when considering how the magic could affect gender & other identities.
You coin a lot of identities & make flags for them, and wanted to ask for help by someone who’s done this stuff before.
Please help me (if you have time 😅)
So you asked the right person but with just not quite enough details 😅 I'm currently working on making my own massive d&d based campaign where gender variance is very common not only in the pantheon of gods but also amoungst the many races that Inhabit the world.
Imma leave most of my rambling under a cut cause this is exciting me and I may type a shit ton. I'll go into much more detail there!
So the first thing to consider is the world itself. Is this a Renaissance/medieval setting? Is it a modern setting? Dose it take place in the far off future of the year 4098 or 1898? This will determine what all would be included in the gender variance and how the people would express it. If it's a medieval setting without the world being practically automated by magic, the colors for the flags would be more natural because they wouldnt nessearily have complex artificial dyes. Hell, would these people represent themselves by a flag or maybe an insignia? A tattoo? A language? A community? Just because your basing the idea of this gender variance on irl xenogenders doesn't mean you have to copy paste. /Not patronizing
Next, how common is intersexuality in this world? Are there multiple races that don't quite fit a human definition + magic? Is this gender variance considered uncommon or common? If uncommon, are they oppressed or is it generally accepted? What are, if there are any, the gender roles of this society? How would this society decide gender, birth sex? Interests? Physical attributes? Just because they are "human" doesn't nessesarily mean they are what we'd consider "cis male" or "cis female" or beyond. The words woman, man, male or female or other gendered language doesn't even have to exist within this fantasy world.
Do they speak English? Is it a made up language? It's quite a complex ask./nm. I think it's important to put as much culturally relevant context in your world before you travel into the heart of making innerworld xenogenders. Ik for my campaign, for example: gargoyles are victims of racist discrimination and those experiences are part of their culture which bleeds into their genders and cultural expectations of genders that wouldn't be considered in say.. centaur society where they aren't particularly victims of those forms of racism but arnt held as highly as certain other races and so on and so on. It sounds like you're similar to me and really want to get into the deep parts of your world so you have to figure out your base, then figure out the innerworld politics and common experiences and location and timeframe before you dive headfirst into specific xenogender experiences.
Overall, just have fun with it, avoid irl stereotypes and the wonderful thing about adding a "magic/fantasy" component is that it's the perfect way to cover up things that wouldn't make sense for the timeframe/situation/experiences. How did the air elves manage to automate cloud production with this machine? Magic! How did this automaton rise to live and speak and gain consciousness similar to 2020 ai? Magic! How did this tiny library in a tiny town have a book about some place you just dropped existing 30 hrs into the campaign?? Magic!!! It's the writers best out lol
It's all dependent on how close you wanna be to "this would actually function if this was used irl" and " idk man, magic shit". Would they make flags using natural dyes of mud/clay, berries and shells? Or would there be spells that could turn anything the specific color and shade that you need it? Are those born with magic treated better, the same or worse than those born without it? What's the social hierarchy? Would using say a wand for magic be considered a lesser item or better item than say a magic book? Are certain items socially considered more "feminine" than others? Is feminity treated as the ideal thing over masculinity, the same or lesser than? Most writers just use whatever "values" the current society they live in as a base just because it's easier.
All this to say is that it's important to, if your desire is to Garner an audience, make a world that you understand and makes you happy and a world that your audience understands and makes them happy. Be aware that, depending on your media of choice for publication (be it a ttrpg, a game, a book or even animation) if your audience needs a booklet to understand and gain definitions for the 50+ xenogenders present in your world that they will see on a daily basis, it might not jive. Ik I personally hate it when a series throws a ton of information at me the moment I open it. It's unrealistic to expect someone to read a giant book and devote hours of time before they ever even truly interact with the media. In their minds, why devote all that time and focus to learning something that may not be worth it? Have a good balance and pace, these can kill amazing games and make horrible games feel much better than they actually are. Perhaps introduce the in-world xenogenders slowly with clear definitions that they can flip back to, this not only helps people remember them but allows non-xenogendered people access to your series who want to understand but need baby steps. I only mention this because even though xenogenders are old asf, they are still relatively new in modern culture.
All these little cultural aspects, expectations, appearances, socio-political hierarchies, wealth, location, time frame, etc all determine someone's experiences within said society and therefore will influence how they fit themselves, if they choose to fit themselves, within that society. How they see those who fit within and out of that society. How they've made or haven't made community outside of it. How others treat them. Personal experiences. Gender is such a complex and personal beast and tackling it in a fantasy world where our reality is off the table is truly a feat, one many writers (often white pericishet male and white pericishet female) never bother to contend with. It's a balancing act of " do I want my fictional world to be a safe haven, accepting and example of how society should treat gender variance beyond the binary?" Or " do I want my fictional world to be closer to reality and give a voice to the real life and often painful experiences xenogender people must face in our transphobic and enbyphobic society?".
It's up to you wether you want to erase those demons or address them head on and no response is more brave than the other. There's nothing wrong with having your work represent an ideal world or harsh reality. Fiction doesn't mean it can't be truthful in its messaging.
I hope I helped you both by answering your questions and giving a little advice as someone who's been both in the depths of xenogenders and who's made a shit ton of original fantasy content and knows some of the best ways to present it. Feel free to send me some dms if you have any questions or would like some advice later down the road. Id love to assist in this project if you need me and trust my judgement.
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okay since i started this whole debacle about villains and such in BL, let me say my final and only words on it.
The post was originally about no villains except for Katagawa Jr. The entire point of the post was the racist and fetishized treatment his character receives in fandom- it was not a post about him being a villain or justifying his actions or anything–– it was about how he is treated as a nonwhite character in a majority white fandom.
This argument cannot and should not be used in comparison to any other villains as it is specific to the racist tropes and characterization he was given throughout his arc. My statement on him being overly-villified by fandom has little to do with his actions and everything to do with how a majority white fandom sees an East Asian male character who is quite literally written into racist stereotypes.
Comparing Katagawa Jr's treatment in fandom to the white villain who advocates for colonization and genocide is not just plain stupid and racist in itself, but ignoring the entire original intended point of the post I made to begin with.
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re-watching ted lasso with mum (who watches prem football regularly) is fun bc she'll be like:
holy shit the goalie is black!!!
and then she's like 'is there not a story about that??' bc even in her limited experience, she has noticed that black keepers are rare.
which once again brings me back to my frustration about the way they've done colourblind casting (i assume?) and then just gone 'wow so diverse' and made 0 changes to the storylines.
having a black goalie in the premier league isn't unheard of but it's rare. and it's so weird to have a show about premier league football with a black goalie (and a black captain. and a south asian manager!!!). to have gone 3 seasons being cutesy and 'light entertainment' without a single mention of like 'this is rare!!'...... it's so hard to connect to this show when it's so surface level and it has so much potential just like. lying there, ready for the taking.
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