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#just thinking about everthing that has happened since then. crazy
dantakeyoman · 1 year
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I would reallyy love if you could write about how when the Sully family reaches the new tribe all of the Metkayina girls are trying really hard to get Neteyam to notice them (Cause you know he's the oldest, a good warrior and is gonna be a leader soon) but they dont know he already has a mate and the reader gets jealous. So neteyam has to comfort her and when she realizes she is being silly and has nothing to worry about...this one metkayina girl really pushes it....(im talking getting touchy with neteyam, always finding ways to get him alone and is rude to the reader) and she loses her absolute shit and you can decide what she does but i want it to be very possessive like behavior😏 sorry this is long😅
Metkayina Girls Start Falling At Neteyam's Feet and You, His Mate, Get Jealous (SFW)
Reader is Fem! Omaticaya
CW: a story of jealousy with aa twist, these girls are really shameless, Kiri and Lo'ak duo, sorry im posting so late, my stomach actually really hurts rn, but not writing for so long has been driving me crazy, anyway, enjoy <3 ( i barfed in my mouth a little bit writing some of this cringey shit )
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"Humans?! That must've been so scary for you! What happened next?" Leyelu asked as she stretched, laying herself stomach-down in the sand in front of Neteyam, batting her eyelashes.
"Yeah, did you fight them? I'm sure you did, since you are such a strong warrior," Nayat smiled, scooching her seat closer to the boy.
"Um...well, I didn't-." "Impossible. I can imagine you swooping in and saving your family. All heroic-like," Srraza smirked, openly raking her eyes up and down Neteyam's body, not caring how uncomfortable he looked.
Their shameless display made you want to vomit, and possibly scream, at the same time.
There were a total of three girls. Leyelu, Nayat, and Srraza. And all were practically throwing themselves at Neteyam.
It had been about a week and some change since you and the Sullys arrived at Awa'atlu. And every day, without fail, these girls managed to tail Neteyam, following him and showering him in praise whenever they could.
You hadn't had not two seconds alone with him before one of them, or all three, came barging in with some fake excuse of a heavy basket they needed help lifting or a boat they needed help loading.
You knew Neteyam never entertained their advances, and were thankful for it.
But being his mate, you couldn't help but feel frustrated. (and maybe a little jealous)
"If you scowl any harder, it's going to become permanent," Kiri playfully warned, your face amusing her.
"Are you alright?"
"I'm fine," you curtly answered, tearing your eyes away from the scene angrily.
"Yes. I'm fine is stretched tightly across your face right now," Lo'ak smirked from his spot in the sand, hands behind his head as he subathed.
"(y/n), I hope you know that Neteyam would never-." "I know," you sighed, already guessing what Kiri was going to say.
"I trust Neteyam completely. It's just-."
You couldn't finish the sentence. It was embarrassing.
"Just what?" Lo'ak asked, ears perking in intrigue.
"Give her a minute," Kiri shushed, smacking him in the arm, earning an annoyed ow! from the boy.
"It's not that I'm scared Neteyam will leave me. It is just...I don't see why he won't," you started, staring down at your feet in shame.
Kiri and Lo'ak both whipped their heads towards you in disbelief, their expressions contorting into ones of confusion.
"What the hell are you talking about?" Lo'ak asked, confused.
"Lo'ak!" Kiri scolded.
She was thinking the same thing, but he could've been a little easier on the delivery.
"Look at them," you sighed, holding out your hand to the girls, who were still fake listening to Neteyam's story.
"Leyelu's father is one of the best hunters in the clan, only second to Tonowari. Nayat's mother is incredibly skilled on the loom, who is now teaching Nayat everthing she knows. For Eywa's sake, Srraza is studying under Ronal to be a healer."
The brother ans sister's expressions slowly softened, the meaning behind your words now coming to light.
"You are the best dancer the Omaticaya have ever seen. And the best the Metkayina have seen, as well," Kiri tried to comfort, a warm smile on her face.
"Oh, yes, because dancing can help me hunt for food. And dancing can help me make clothes. Let's not forget, it can help me heal as well," you sarcastically agreed, snippy.
Kiri sighed.
She didn't take it to heart, not one bit. She understood your frustration.
"They all have spent their years learning skills that can be of use, be important. All I have to show for mine are a couple of dance moves."
Lo'ak looked like he wanted to say something, but decided against it until you were finished.
"And the best part of it is they are all gorgeous, the most sought after girls in this village. And I'm just...me."
Kiri felt her heart ache.
She had no idea you had been feeling this way this whole time.
She thought it was just a small case of jealousy. But it seemed to be much deeper than that.
"So, no. I'm not frustrated or scared of Neteyam leaving me. I am frustrated and scared because he has every reason to."
You turned back to the scene, only to see Leyelu resting her hands on Neteyam's chest, leaning into his face.
"Hey, Neteyam. Have you ever given thought to who could possibly be your mate?" she asked with a smirk, peering up at him through her beautiful eyelashes.
It was as if you didn't even exist.
"(y/n), wai-." But you ignored Kiri, abruptly standing up, not wanting to watch the scene any longer.
"Dammit, (y/n)! Sit down and look," Lo'ak groaned, roughly pulling you back down and turning your face to watch Neteyam.
"Do not touch me," Neteyam sternly ordered, grabbing the girl's wrists and pulling her hands of him, harshly.
"I know that you know I already have a mate. And you trying to make advances on me while knowing that is incredibly disrespectful."
The girls were giving him puppy dog eyes, as if that would guilt him into stopping.
It made you gag.
"I do not appreciate how you've been disregarding (y/n) this entire week. Especially when she has done nothing to you."
"That's exactly the point. She does nothing. She is just there with you. You two do not even act like mates," Srraza scoffed, rolling her eyes.
"That is true. I never see you two hug, or kiss, or embrace each other romantically at all," Nayat agreed.
"Because any time I get alone with her is interrupted by you three!" Neteyam exclaimed, annoyed.
His sudden burst shocked you.
You didn't know he felt this.
"I only get time to myself every once in a while, and I like to spend it with (y/n). But ever since I've gotten here, you three have used every mean under the sun to keep that from happening. For Eywa's sake, that was what I was on my way to do now before you all came along!"
"But why? She doesn't hunt, she doesn't loom, she doesn't heal, she can't even carry a tune. She's boring, plain. Why would you willingly want to spend time with her?" Leyelu asked, cocking an eyebrow s she crossed her arms.
Ouch.
"That's why you look like a dead fish, bitch!" Lo'ak loudly called, making you and Kiri die in snickers.
The girl whipped around, glaring daggers at the boy.
"Lo'ak!" Kiri tried to scold, but couldn't through her laughter.
"It's true! If her eyes were any farther apart, she'd be able to see the back of her head," he huffed.
You were his friend. And he didn't like people talking shit about you.
Meanwhile, Neteyam was using every ounce of his strength to not bare his teeth at the girl.
"I don't care about what she can't do. I love what she can. She's a phenomenal dancer, and has forgotten more moves than you three will ever learn. She's funny, she's kind, she's caring, the farthest thing from boring. And her beauty makes the three of you look like a patch wet sand. I am lucky to call her my mate, and if you all would excuse me, I'm going to spend the rest of the day with her," Neteyam angrily corrected, pushing past them and walking towards you.
And as he drew closer, you smiled, wider than you had in a while.
You felt foolish for thinking he could do better than you.
Especially after he just confessed that he believed he could do no better than you.
It made you feel happy, and loved, and secure in your relationship.
There was no one that could take your place because you were the place, and the only one who could ever be it.
And now knowing that fact, sent you over the moon.
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escapekissed · 4 years
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@nvenes : [reblogs korra gifs]
me: [yodels in homosexual]
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mish-tique · 2 years
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Imagine Max and Lewis having a child (adopted or own blood) and giving them big warm hugs after every race, even if they wanted nothing else do to but rip FIA apart, because their little one comes first. And after Max's win, Lewis gets off of the podium to get their little baby on the podium too where they finally announce their relationship/marriage and their baby, their teams would have a hell to go through after.
Omg!
In all the previous races they made sure to keep their kid out of public, not wanting them to meet the public yet. But they get so much strenght out of their family together...
One weekend Lara (look. they have the cutest girl okay) stays with Merc, the other weekend at RB. Mostly in the mobile homes since she's still sleepy a lot and doesn't like the cars that much, no matter how much people point out that her dads ae in there.
But the drivers sneak in to see her, get that hug maybe in some space in between the drivers homes. Only the higher officials and the PA's know that Lara exist and who she is.
Before the last race, Max and Lewis talk. About everthing; their teams, the races, f1 in general, their family and their feelings. The decision is not one that doesn't come with consequences, yet still feels easily made. Because it has been long enough and they deserve their own family too. They don't want to make it a public thing, but they don't want it to be a secret any longer.
And then Max wins with the FIA being a mess and when both Max and Lewis leave the podium both, people start to think this is some kind of crazy protest but everyone goes even wilder when they notice how the both of them return with a girl of a few years in between them.
The interviewer takes his chance but max interrupts him before anything can be asked.
"It's us talking from now on, if you ask anything you can consider your chance gone."
Lewis just smirks, looking at everything that's happening.
Lara interrupts, "Daddy, who is papa talking too?"
"Papa is talking to the press," Lewis explains, "We are showing who you are."
People melt at the combination of Max's strong protectiveness and Lewis' gentle parenting side.
"Ooh, can I introduce myself?"
God, Lara is going to have everyone wrapped around her finger. The press doesn't dare to ask a single question.
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helloneighborfan · 3 years
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“Chapter 5: Meeting The Tavish”
It has been two weeks since we moved and everything is going very well, I have been strengthening my bond with Rita as well since I have liked her since I met her.
Then last week I went to cover a group and it felt a bit strange since it was not my thing, some young people were surprised by how I explained the subject, it was about earthquakes and how they are caused, but hey. Speaking of natural phenomena we have for now reached a hypothesis that would be the most logical:
"Something in this town is causing this phenomenon and it can become a simple device to a device, it may sound quite crazy but here the thing is unusual, option three is that it is a natural thing as in the case of ball lightning ”. "We are doing very well." Roger says putting his hand on my shoulder. Thank you, it was what I needed ... How we always greet the receptionist and teachers, as my mother used to say “You always have to have respect for everyone”. We sat down and decided to inquire silently, we only heard writing, sighs and silence, until we heard someone running and the phone ringing.
"Oh! Sorry not to play but it's for you. " Don't worry, it happens to all of us, I pick up the phone and answer:
"Hello?"
Oh Roger, I'm Mr. Mason.
Ah Mr. Mason, How's going everthing there?
Fine, It's just that is boring here since you two are not here, but-
Something happened or?
Well, I wanted to tell you how things are here because, there are lots of news. Did you know that a scientist moved here to the premises? No, not that.
(Someone is heard gagging)
"Roger, I think I-I'm-I'm going to-" Adelle says running fast to the bathroom.
"Hey, Is everything okay over there? Was that Adelle? .Yes, it was her, is that she is pregnant ... Oh Roger! He would have told me about her from the beginning, I did not know that about her and then send her little details if she has two of her. Good thank you. I chat some more with Mr. Mason since he wanted to tell him how things are going around here.
"Well Roger, I have to leave you since I have work to do so, I hope to call you again soon, Say hello to Adelle for me." Bye. I hang up and go to the address to return the phone to the counselor. Knock Knock. She opens the door and greets me with a half smile. She thanks me and when I'm about to leave the room she tells me:
"You're just in time." Someone calls and an ok is heard in the distance, I go to the room and there are several paintings of important people, among them was a family made up of a man in a suit with a painter's beard, his ocher eyes, a woman in a typical dress pale pink princess, dark brown eyes, a distinguished nose and a bun with bangs and a short man, formal suit as a duke, a ponytail and hat. But his face was lined with a black desesperate circle.
There's Adelle, too, in a casual red dress and a messy bun. We all take a seat and the talk starts. Adelle and Roger Peterson, right? That's how it is. Well, as you may know, we are the Tavish family, founder of this wonderful town. They tell us about Gammy Flo, a lady who makes “Golden Apples” that are actually sweets. As with Mayak 0-14, they helped her to do well. They asked for tea and cookies to continue chatting.
By the way, how was the creation of the golden apple and how were the first days of it? Simple, all due to a candy and chocolate accident, she did not do so well so we decided to give her a little nudge to make her go well.
Wow that was interesting, I see Roger and he's chatting with Mr. Tavish.
“I had never seen a woman with a hair style like this." Well for me it makes it more comfortable since it is not difficult to do. Returning to the theme of golden apples. Are they still selling themselves? Of course.
"How will you see Roger, Raven Brooks is a town that almost everyone does not know and that prevents us from being in sight of the world, isn't it? He says taking the glass of wine from him. I just nod and have some tea.
"...." He just looks at me as I take my tea and return it to where he was. Are you? Of course not, I'm listening to it, you know? I wonder how Adelle is. I contemplate the place until I feel a look on me and it is Mrs. Tavish. I'm sorry Ms. Tavis-
“Relax, you can call me Eleanor”. Eleanor. It is a very beautiful name, I have never heard someone like that call her. After all that we go back to work in the department and Rita is sitting there working. In order not to interrupt, we sit down and write again and the dead silence.
"Rita." A male voice calls from the hall. I know it's you ... I don't want to talk to you, more than we have people here, until she sighs and goes there. That man appears : "Sorry for the inconvenience." I can hear the door of a room closing and I hardly hear what they are discussing .
It lasts longer that I unexpected. We even finish making our notes and letting us know that we are leaving. We say goodbye and go straight to our house. I hope Rita is well besides having arrived at her house ...
~ Flashback ~
When I was going out to reach Roger, screams and cries were heard, to prevent them from noticing that he was there, I decided to be the most stealthy to listen and the following was heard:
No ... I don't even want to look into your eyes, Cleave ... Please leave me alone ... After ... the incident ... I don't even know if it's you anymore ...
"Again with the same thing"
Don't you understand?! You decided to take me here to argue and put sand on my mind, do you want me to forget things that simple? Well no!
Rita ... Please, I know what, I know what. Ugh, what's the use of this, it's benefiting both of us anyway, dear ...
I decided to get out of there since the matter started to get serious so I got out of there.
~End of the Flashback~
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sugapop-rp · 3 years
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♡ Plot Inspired By: we’ve lived in this tiny ass town where everyone knows everyone because no one leaves and when we were young we would sit up at night on your roof and i’d listen to you talk about how you were actually going to do it one day and you did but you never knew i’ve had a crush on you ever since back then so when you send me postcards from all these different cities with bright lights it makes my heart hurt and here we are several years later and i’m finally starting to move on but oh wait you’re back and my heart’s beating like crazy well fuck au || kris and your muse used to be close friends but then things changed as life does happen when you grow up. kris actually made his promise be known where he left their small town and did go about with going all around but is recently back in town, now why he is back...well there’s only one way to find out. ♡
the odd’s that kris would even show his face around his is...slim to none. nonexistent. he had pretty much buried the place he grew up in in the back of his mind. no longer a thing to remember, a ghost of a memory even. he told himself to never think about the past, the past isn’t important despite all the talk on how it apparently shapes who you are as a person b.s. so why was kris on the bus ride back to town? back to the place where the childhood memories started and were crumbled...truth be told he wasn’t entirely sure. he just had this random feeling to just go there. to visit it for a few hours and then get on with his life like it was nothing. that was really the plan for the visit, he didn’t have much of a reason to come back. his mother well, she was out of the picture sadly and his father....it’s complicated and they don’t have the best relationship so no family to visit and friends, well possibly but he doesn’t want to bother with seeing them. he is aware of how much this could be a risk...considering with the ahem, ‘job’ the male currently houses, coming back to the town you grew up in and having people recognize you isn’t the best thing to do.
so he’s risking alot and all because he’s feeling nostalgic, how wonderful.
closing his eyes for a moment, he took a deep breath as the bus slowly came to a stop and pushed himself off from the seat after a minute or so of sitting. for a moment, he was tempted to not get up but eventually his legs were moving on their own. slinging his bag over his shoulders. he slowly sauntered his way off the bus. stepping on the ground and took a good look. taking in on what has changed and what hasn’t changed -the answer is not really-. everthing looked how he recalled when he first left town with his original plan of backpacking around. there was still this creepy convenient store that scared the local kids, the oh so familiar diner that housed the best waffles. the familiar long roads where kids would ride their bikes until the late nights having bike races.
home sweet home right?
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zuffer-weird-girl · 4 years
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Hello! If requests are still open, can I request an imagine where Dabi has a civilian S/O who isn’t aware of him being a villain and while walking home, S/O overhears Dabi and Hawks having their talk after the fight with Endeavor where Hawks points out he knows about S/O, who finds out about Dabi being a villain. Angst but Fluff? Thanks!
Oof my heart
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It was a disaster. Fire was everywhere, the number one pro hero was with half of his face injured and was already being taken to the hospital and the tension in the air didn't fade away even when you were walking peacefully on a streat just to cool yourself down... Not even a single soul was near by, exactly what you wanted.
You couldn't saw the villain's face at the time due to your distance, but the amount of flames was already enough for you to start panicking. Especially when they reminded you of someone, he was working at the time, what if something happened to him?
Even if for some odd reason you couldn't feel a good vibe coming from Endeavour, you still felt pity, that would be a nasty scar engraved on his face (lol sucks for you my man)...
You checked your phone in your pocket to see if he had answered your worried messages, someone felt pity over you to Dabi not only answer but after at least 5 minutes later.
"-Geez Doll calm your ass down I'm okay, just had to deal with a bullshit of a coworker who can't do even something that was comanded... I'll probably be a little late to get home but until there relax a little would ya? I can see you trembling from only reading your message."
"-Asshole I was woried sick about you, I don't even know where the hell you work at!"
"-Well as you can probably see not in the midle of the city, because I would be dead already right? Unless I'm texting you from hell."
"-Shut up you weirdo XD
-So, want for dinner take out or home cooked?"
"-Your cooking is the shit, and I'm broke anyway. See ya in a few doll, take care because I won't be the one atending to your whines later."
You shake your head at the silly messages, Dabi was slowly but surely opening up more and more for you as the times goes by, you learned that you had to be pacient for him to trust you completely, and what's the matter about that? Everyone has their time to give their trust to others, and just by looking sometimes at Dabi in his "vulnerable" moments you could see that he suffered a lot... you wanted to change that, for him to be at least happy...
"I didn't break my part of the debt who did this was you"
You frooze dead on your steps, that voice-! You couldn't be mistaken! It was the second ranked pro-hero Hawks!
"Doesn't make sense to ask like that to trust the number 2 hero just like that, that was also a test for you..."
D-dabi? What was your boyfriend doing in here? Talking to a pro-hero nonless! He always avoided the topic and sometimes made very realistic and cruel even coments at them.
You peeked inside the building just to comfirm that you weren't hallucinating, you saw Dabi standing right in front of a feartherless; except the one he was holding against your boyfriend freaking neck; Hawks, you weren't even in the conversation and was feeling all tense and bothered...
"Dabi that doesn't change the things, imagine a hypothetical situation, in the middle of the city, all that disaster envolving a bunch of civilians... what are the chances of your (Y/N) be in there? Just walking peacefully back from work and suddenly "bam!" Engulfed by your own flames or even attacked by that Nomu?"
Oh shoot now you were one on their conversations.
For a moment you felt like Dabi was going to burn Hawks alive by only looking at him, his hands were formed in fists and his face remained monotonous as ever, the only difference was the intensity of his gaze toward the winged hero.
"Wow, for a hero you do know how to play dirty don't you?" He smirked "Don't involve someone who doesn't even know what the fuck is going on this topic Hawks, if you want our trust them I suggest that maybe, just maybe you never say their name ever again... Got that?" his words were like acid spilling from his half scarred lips.
You heart was pouding so loudly that you missed half of the conversation before Hawks said something that you swore you felt your world crashing down.
"I was always in favor of the league of villains Dabi."
"Maybe, but I won't let you meet the boss yet..."
So that's why sometimes he came so late back to your appartment, why he avoided and despise the topic of heroes... He hide this from you since when?
"See you around Hawks..." you quickly hide behind another building before Dabi has the chance of taking a glance at you, you saw him walking for a few minutes before picking his phone from his pocket and starts typing at it.
Your phone buzzed shortly after.
1 message from ♡
"-My bad it took longer than I expected, the meal is done sweetcheeks?"
You couldn't find the strength to even answer at the time, trying to put every information in order inside your brain and try to not freak out.
How should you feel about this? Scared? Betrayed? Angry? Sad? You don't even know anymore...
You made your way back home slowly thinking of a way to how bring up this conversation to him... Dabi must have gotten in your appartmen right now.
3 messages from ♡
Speaking of the devil...
"-hey where the fuck are you? I thought that you were already home? Everthing okay?"
"-You didn't cook...I'm hurt. I was really looking forward to eat something that doesn't taste like agrotoxic..."
You couldn't contain the tiny smile that appeared after reading his messages... You couldn't stay mad at him for too long... you were so used by his teasing that you guess you just went along with it by now...
But that won't erase what you just saw... You need to talk to him.
Why he hide this from you? Why he lied? You just wanted to know.
You inhaled deeply before opening the door of your appartment preparing to the inevitable.
"What the fuck (Y/N)?! Why didn't you answer my texts?!" Dabi quickly got up from the couch he was currently laying on and made his way to you checking for possibles injures or something out of normal.
"Are you okay? Some bastard stopped you on the street and you got robbed?" He asked worriedly placing both of his hands on your shoulders looking deeply inside your eyes.
You remember the way he was looking at Hawks, threatening... pretty soon to make the winged hero a toasted chicken. (sorry hawks is my favorite hero but this shit is about Dabi)
You looked down at your feet and gently swatted his hands away from your shoulders.
"I'm okay don't worry about it..." you left to grab a cup of water, you needed to calm down.
"How am I not supposed to not worry about it if you were the one texting me like crazy asking if I was okay and then you suddenly dissapear" he said the last thing with his voice mixing with guilt and worry.
You gulped the water, and took a big breath before drooping the bomb.
"You are the villain from earlier aren't you? ' from the league of villains'... The one who was battling with Endeavour..."
None of you speak for at least 5 minutes, the only sounds of the room being your breath and the tic and toc from your clock...
Even with the nerves on your skin you manage to find courage to turn around and meet his turquoise eyes.
Now that was a sign you weren't expecting...
Dabi was with almost giant wide eyes, lips slightly parted and that expression of his... fear, panick... You never saw Dabi in such a desperate stage.
Instead of looking at you he decided to fix his gaze on the kitchen floor, mouth opening and closing trying to find words to answer that...
"H-how... It was Hawks wasn't it?" He laughed maniacally bringing his hand to hide part of his face "That fucking-"
"It wasn't." You interrupted, afraid for the hero's life "I-I kinda... heard your conversation from earlier...it was my own curiosity that lead me to find this... I'm sorry for worrying you, but that's why I took so long to come back..."
Silence... oh for dear god above how you hated this silence.
He lift his gaze from the floor to you, eyes fulled with deep sadness and regret...
"So...? Not gonna do anything?" He asked "Call the heroes for help? Report me? Start yeeling at me saying I'm a monster, that I shouldn't even have a place on this fucking world...? C'mon Doll... don't need to hold back." His tone was so deplorable... like he wanted you to end his existence right there and now.
He closed his eyes when he noticed your steps and just stood there, waiting for the worse...
Guess both of you got surprise at each others actions tonight because the last thing he would expected to feel was your loving embrace engulfing his gloomy figure.
You carresed his scalp making him shiver, and it didn't take too long for cautiously scarred arms to hug you tight in return, maybe if he just caged you in his arms you wouldn't leave...
No, he did deserve to be left on ashes... He wouldn't do this...
"Why didn't you tell me?" His breath hitched again.
"Why?" He chuckled darkly while hugging you tighter "Just look at what your hugging sweet cheeks... I was too selfish to tell you because I didn't need more reasons for you to leave me behind... but also due to your safety, imagine what could happen... heroes would be tracking you down because of your bond with me..." he breathes you in and carresed your hair gently before mumbling something in disgust "Even if you got nothing to deal with it..."
You stayed like this for a moment before letting out a giggle.
"You know it's funny." You rubbed your fingers up and down his back "It was actually so obvious, you were too good at hiding or I was too dumb to know... Maybe both?"
He mumbled a shut up before burying his face in the crook of your neck.
"So... what now?" He asked.
You pinched hard at one of his ears piercings making Dabi yelp; yes yelp; leaving your embrace immediately to cover his ear in pain letting out a few lot of curses.
"What the fuck was that for you little sh-?!"
"That." You pointed at his ear "Was for hidding such a big information like that from me." He rolled his eyes in annoyance
"Okay point tak-" you interrupted him with a small but hard punch on his stomach, not for him to feel imense pain but not to be comfortable either.
"WHAT THE FU-"
"That. Was for you threatening a life only beacause they mentioned my name, you're going to find more trouble than you already have with this."
"Oh fuck you you little shit." He spilled out the words glaring at you with his previously hand on his ear now on his stomach. "Done already?"
"Actually no." He groaned as you made your way towards him.
"That." You spoke while gently putting both of your hands on his face and bringing him for a long and passionate kiss. When both of you parted, Dabi eyes were clouded with wonder yet adoration.
"It's for you to even think about the possibility of me leaving your sorry ass behind. Beautiful, intelligent, protective, loving... a very cocky bastard-" Both of you chuckled at that "I have the whole package... why would I want to leave behind someone just as perfect as you? Be a villain, hero, civialian or whatever.... I love you to the moon and back my beautiful fireball."
He let out a few breaths laughs before bringing you tight to his chest, you pretend to not the feel some tears driping on your face and shir.
"You're fucking crazy you know that?"
"Maybe for you I guess." You happily snuggled on his chest, adoring his scent.
"Fucking weirdo..." he whispered so quietly the next words that if it wasn't for the proximity of you two you would have missed it.
"I love you so much more my doll..."
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ahh hello my angels !! so i’ve been eyeing this group for quite a bit, and i couldn’t resist so here i am ! i’m jada, and this is my first child here - na chunja ! she’s the lead vocal & maknae of primera, and an overall handful ! some of her friends call her ambitious, confident, and versatile, but those of less favorable opinions say she’s vein, manipulative, & stubborn ! i’ll leave that up for you to decide, though. if you want to know more about her, click here for her profile. truth be told i’m a bit unprepared so that’s all i have for now, but if you’d look under the cut there’s some wanted connections & info !
from seoul, south korea !! gangnam specifically.
she’s always lived comfortably, not chaebol level or anything, but she’s in the upper middle class & has never really struggled, per se ?
originally had dreams to be a cosmetologist, but and eventually create her own makeup line ! beauty’s always been super important to her & she wanted to get into the field.
all that being said, being an idol has never really been everything for her ?? she had alternate career paths, stable income, all that. so that’s where her entitled mindset comes from ! but let’s back up for a minute, back to predebut chunja !
was a lot more naive & bubbly back in the day ! she never imagined she’d get anywhere near the fame she has now, always that she’d just be “the girl who could sing” to her classmates once they’d graduated and that was that. 
but while out shopping with some friends at 16, she was street scouted and asked to audition for so!ar entertainment !! was super ecstatic but confused because like - why did her goofing off with friends scream “idol material ??”
it was only after auditioning that she realized it must have been based on visuals, because while she was confident in her abilities, she saw toooons of other auditions better than hers who didn’t get picked since they didn’t fit the “idol mold”. this was the start of her hate for the industry lmao !
trainee life is what really started reaching her toward the person she is now though ! going into it she was very optimistic, friendly to everyone, & just excited, but she soon learned that training was a dog eat dog type of thing ! to go up, you had to be a little ruthless, and that’s just what she did, started getting more and more competitive.
and then debut came !! she hadn’t been expecting to primera to get anywhere as big as they did. in all honesty, she’d expected to flop like the groups before them had ! once she realized that wasn’t the case though, she started getting veery comfortable in the spotlight.
quickly developed the spoiled princess mindset !! being the maknae of the nation’s girl group, she got used to all the doting & became very vein
while she’s always loved the baby image, a part of her wants to step out of it and be taken more seriously as an artist nowadays !!
she’s also been in the industry for a whole, so she’s seen all the ins and outs, including how corrupt it can be ! honestly she’s so tired of the sexualizing, favoritism, crazy rules, and pointless scandals ! it was exciting when she was younger, but she’s getting to be a true adult now and simply doesn’t have the time for any of it. even amongst primera, she’s aware a lot of groups like impulse didn’t get the shine they deserve because of public favoritism towards primera and she just doesn’t think it’s okay at all !
also she doesn’t like the fact that there’s so much emphasis on visage in the industry, especially since lots of idols seem to be deemed talentless visuals & she just feels like hard work is far more important ! essentially she’s like yes i’m pretty but that’s not that important
and that brings me to my next point - remember i said being an idol wasn’t everthing to her ?? well that still applies ! at this point she’s basically like “you can’t hurt me” & doesn’t take company threats too seriously so she doesn’t have a problem speaking up on things as best she can within contract binds !
actually, she’s been more and more interested in going solo, especially when news about sora leaving broke out. as she’s grown to be more independent, she’s become more interested in more meaningful music & wants to perform things personal to her, and honestly is just tired of the same pop love songs.
alternately, she really just wants to live a normal life nowadays, but that isn’t feasible at all. if she settled down somewhere & tried going to cosmetology school, she knows dispatch would still be watching her everywhere she goes and things can’t quite ever be the same, which is why she’s so frustrated !
buuut she’s also scared of being a flop so !! hasn’t !!
anyway she has two major nicknames among fans - baby empress, because she’s soft in the face but has powerful & commanding vocals ! and cheonsa chunja, which basically translates to angelic chunja because of her gentle features !
as primera’s grown to be the most senior group relevant on the market, she worries they’re moving towards obscurity and soon will lose fan’s interest. she’s spent a decade of her life having fame handed to her on a silver platter,  and isn’t quite sure how to handle things when that’s no longer the case.
in terms of personality, she’s kind of turned into a humblebragger, and just lets fame get to her head !! she knows what she wants & gets very upset when it’s not given to her, and simply wants things her way !! baby star syndrome everyone
also very confident & a little cocky !! it transfers well on stage because stage presence is what she’s best at, yet offstage it can be a little offputting !! like dear god if your muse comes up to her looking for some advice or something she will go into a whole rant about how they paved the way she’s the main reason why i-
bold !! very bold, and unapologetic. she’s romantic, likes to drink, party, all that, and isn’t afraid to say any of it !! also a confident bisexual yet is constantly screaming her affections for girls !! 
along with that - she’s not very good with commitment but !! if she likes you, she will do anything to get you, and that’s just that !
there’s two sides of her - the one she has around people way younger than her, where she’s a little nurturing and puts on the “all-knowing sunbae” facade !! but those around her age / older who’ve known her for a while get the goofier, more transparent side, more like how she was back in the day !
she can do the primera choreography fairly well, but never ask her to do anything outside of it !! she’ll just fail horribly. thank god her charisma is here to save her !!
but she does claim she’s the best rapper out of the vocalist and while i don’t believe it ?? she refuses to take no for an answer !
totally irrelevant but she’s got a black pomeranian, theo, who is her true son !! she doesn’t stop posting or talking about him !!
this is just getting ... way too long ?? i expected it but didn’t want it to happen ! sigh, anyways onto the wanted connections !!
wanted connections !!
give her a bitter exes plot please ?? she’s very vengeful & jealous, so maybe that could somehow transfer and give us something interesting !
childhood / best friends ! someone she’s really genuine around & they know everything there is to know about each other ! 
enemies / competition, a vocalist who’s equally cocky as chunja ! maybe they get compared a lot which created this tension ?
give her one of the younger idols / trainees to be initially annoyed by but begins to adore & want to baby !! 
someone co-parent theo with her lmao !! he needs more love !!
classic drinking buddies !! 
honestly she needs that one partner in crime who just shit talks the industry with her 24 / 7 PLEASE give this to me !!
i’ll think of more soon, she’s getting an official plots page in a bit anyways so !!
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April 4th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on April 4th, 2019, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on Kamikaze by Alan Tupper, Havana Nguyen, and Carrie Tupper; Edited by Rachelle Udell and D'Andrea Seabrook.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Kamikaze by lan Tupper, Havana Nguyen, and Carrie Tupper; Edited by Rachelle Udell and D'Andrea Seabrook~! (https://kamikazeanimated.com/comic/)
Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
my favorite scene so far is probably the huge long sequence that follows the bomb explosion and markesha is running away. i love just how real and down to earth that scene is. like markesha doesnt magically come to her destiny or just treat what happened is nbd after suddenly becoming a ninja. nope, shes runs, like a normal person would do regardless if they were a runner or not, and is pursued. everthing about this sequence really carried this tension. cause in this moment she was not some future superheroine. she was a young woman terrified for her life. and it just felt so relateable.
keii4ii
I have several favorite scenes. One of them is Markesha's confrontation with Franco. The intro to that scene is thick with tension; I love the juxtaposition with the radio/music and could see it play like a movie in my head! http://kamikazeanimated.com/comic/kamikaze/pg-2-gatekeeper/ Not to mention how it ends. It's the first time something works out right(ish) between Markesha and Orson. Due to the circumstances, the scene leaves a lot of distrust to be resolved, but it was nice to see that first step of working together. It struck a good balance of tension and a truce.
RebelVampire
another scene im particular to is that scene where markesha is standing on the rooftops debating whether she should work with orson or not. not only is it beautifully illustrated, but i really like the juxtaposition in the story. like showing her other opportunity leaving the city without her. cause once that caravan leaves, its really a no way out declaration. markesha is trapped whether she wants to or not.
i do love the franco scene for how it painted the world. cause in the opening sequence i was like, "come on this is the post apocalypse he seems the type to be packing a gun." and then boop, he pulled out a gun and i felt vindicated XD
but i just really appreciated how the character really acted in the worst way possible per expectation of the world
Carrie Tupper
I think this is the first time I've EVER heard any compliments toward Franco, period. xD
RebelVampire
i mean the dudes dead. so umm, no sense on spitting on his grave
Carrie Tupper
Fair enough, but I'm sure Markesha wouldn't mind.
RebelVampire
nobody should mind hes dead. especially the runner who originally was supposed to take the package. now theres a person who lucked the heck out.
Carrie Tupper
Ha, as Orson would say: "Indeed."
keii4ii
Also not exactly a scene, but one detail I really liked was the "fresh wild meat" store with the live rabbits. It's a nice nod to the rabbit... metaphor...? thingie, but I loved it for the little mundane worldbuilding bit it was.
Carrie Tupper
OMG YAY
I'm so glad you notices that Keii4ii!
noticed*
keii4ii
It helped that I saw such stores near me when I was growing up
Fried chicken places with live chickens in cages
Carrie Tupper
That whole bit was thrown is as a bit of a metaphoric way of saying, "Markesha's releasing the story into the world herself whether she realizes it or not."
RebelVampire
i appreciated too the subtle world building it did too. cause it both demonstrates in a small way how desperate everyone is for food while at the same time showing how theyve made everything work and are still able to operate somewhat the same as before
Carrie Tupper
I think it's interesting that y'all zeroed in on the tension/action bits. Most people tell me the parts they remember the most are those between Markesha and Toshi.
RebelVampire
i like seeing markesha and toshi interact, but at the same time theyre father and daughter. so at the end of the day theres probably gonna be love and hugs and theres kind of a safety net there where their relationship is concerned.
meanwhile everyone else is ready to put a bullet in markesha's head
minus like 3 people
keii4ii
I'm partial to child-parent conflicts so I've been more interested in Markesha's situation with her missing mom than with her dad.
RebelVampire
and one of those whose name is orson i dont trust
yeah i do like the tension between them regarding the mom. that definitely is a highlight since theyre both handled it so differently
keii4ii
Speaking of her mom.... that little problem they ran into with her DNA clearance thing (forgot what it's called/ what page it was on) is totally not suspicious at all, no sir.
RebelVampire
ill be more keen on their interactions later cause toshi was the one who really wanted markesha to take orson's job. but he also seems the most likely to go "wait shes doing what i didnt approve of that"
Carrie Tupper
Hahah "blacklisted bloodline"
RebelVampire
so that seems like a potential argument later
nah nobody did nothing at all
just a typo
never heard of the nin family
QUESTION 2. After avoiding it for a while, Markesha does agree to help Orson’s group. Do you think Markesha is finally settled on helping the group, or will she continue to panic and try to run for it? How do you think her first mission will go? Do you believe the first mission will help cement her motivations for helping Orson, or will it scare her away again? What do you think will happen when Markesha’s father finds out exactly what she’s doing for Orson? Further, do you think the Razors will figure out Orson covered for Markesha and was actually the one to deliver the bomb? If they do, what will they do to both Orson and Markesha? Finally, how do you think Markesha will mature and grow over the course of the story?
mathtans
I'll be here to comment shortly...
RebelVampire
hi math! take your time~!
Carrie Tupper
I think my personal fave scene is the one where Audrey and Orson butt heads in the 2nd episode. She's totally not down for this, thinks it's a bad idea, and I think it says a lot about Orson that he'll take that kind of talk around him. Like...he's not so iron fisted he won't hear someone drag his ideas for the desperate moves they are.
Hi, hi, Math!
keii4ii
Yeah, Orson never struck me as controlling, just really adamant
RebelVampire
orson is one of those characters where i dont know if i should love them or hate them. but like in the good tense way that keeps me on edge. hes this perfect blend of being a cool dude while at the same time kind of being a jerk.
mathtans
Only made it through the first two episodes, but of those, I think my fave scene is actually when Markesha rubs the rabbit talisman and leaves, and beat panel, and then Toshi does after she's gone. The sort of thing that you could have totally skipped over, but gave much more weight to his character early on, in my mind.(edited)
RebelVampire
yeah that was a beautiful pause
cause it really said so much about toshi in that moment
and just non verbally explained why he was so insistent she rub it
cause its more a thing for him and his heart
than it is for her
i want to believe that markesha's panicking is kind of done in the sense shes just gonna run forever. i think though in that first mission she's going to be moving forward on adrenaline and saying shit a lot to get through it. however, i think once orson is back he can explain things better, and that will cement in her desires more. that and i think shell see the opportunity as a way to improve toshi's life at the end and stick with it for that reason.
i 100% think when toshi finds out he wont be happy tho
and then theyll have that argument
where toshi is like how could you
and markesha is like "hey you pushed me into accepting his deal"
mathtans
Okay, more or less here, catching up on the start. I guess I went for the more traditional. Though the bit with the mother is kind of heartbreaking. Though at the same time inspirational what with how close Markesha's become with her dad. And I totally missed the metaphor of releasing the rabbits.
A couple runner-up scenes... right at the beginning, where the elevator opens and it's full of security guys by accident. I thought that was funny. Also, well played, setting up this guy as the main character and it's actually his team that are the key ones moving on.
Second runner up scene... welp, if you know me, you KNOW I'm shipping Kamikaze and Flare, so yeah.
Carrie Tupper
Yeah... I may or may not get a lot of people mad at me about Jackal...
Shipping already? Wow xD
mathtans
Mad at you? I thought it was clever. A way of showing no one's safe, in a way.
I go for all the yuri ships, hinted or not.
RebelVampire
i do miss jackal. the character well never really get to know. but nah, not mad. i mean this is the post apocalypse and you cant have post apocalypse without showing the world can be...unforgiving
plus it raises the stakes for orson
cause now everything is riding on markesha
but like
no pressure or anything there markesha
mathtans
As to Orson, here's a crazy theory. His "trial run" was actually to see if a bomb could be delivered fast enough to not explode in transit. He's in league with the bomber, presumably indirectly.
(Did we ever find out what that trial was about?)
Carrie Tupper
Hmmm, there's a flavor of that theory I haven't seen.
The trial run in the beginning?
mathtans
I prefer chocolate over vanilla. Right, that one, the one Markesha was 27 seconds late for.
Carrie Tupper
Yeah, there's a page where Link asks Orson how the "courier angle" went
RebelVampire
see, the way i feel about orson, i cant say no to that theory. orson is a shady dude even when im cheering for him.
Carrie Tupper
The idea there was that Orson was throwing a hail mary that a courier could be hired to do the job, but her parameters were a little high for untrained runners.
mathtans
But what was he couriering, eh? Secret bombs, maybe?
Rebel: It's true. The guy removed the evidence of his gun and everything.
Carrie Tupper
Orson's a professional, he's not perfect, but he's defintely been in the game for a loooong time.
mathtans
As to Rebel's questions, I think Markesha's instinct is to run. I was honestly inclined to smack her upside the head for disobeying her father the way she did, when he was making sense. Can kinda see her point of view, mind.
keii4ii
He knows his priorities. Gotta respect that even if I may not agree with him sometimes
Carrie Tupper
One of the hard realities Orson has to constantly deal with is the fact that he can't control everything in the outer city. Doing his jobs a lot easier when you can leverage everyone, but the chaos of Outer Trinity is almost a force of nature that he's just kinda...gotta make the best of.
mathtans
I think she's destined to grow though, from what we've seen in the special later storyline bits. (cough Shipping cough )
RebelVampire
i like that mix where orson cnt control everything yet gives off this attitude that sure he can, hes orson. gotta admire that confidence.
mathtans
Incidentally, real interesting format, what with giving some tidbits about the city or characters underneath the page. I didn't get a chance to read them all.
Carrie Tupper
Charisma seen from outer space
mathtans
Orson seems very sure of himself - and his coworkers. Probably why, as Carrie said, he can tolerate things like Audrey's challenges.
Handy trait given the position he's in.
RebelVampire
tbf its not like audrey's points are invalid anyway. shes making good points even if she chooses to express them very aggressively.
though between the three i like link the best cause hes a breathe of fresh air who brings sunshine and comedy to the bleak and serious world.
mathtans
She is. Though given she seems to be the one who needs to activate the kill switch, she's got a more personal stake.
Link spies on young girls though.
Carrie Tupper
That's a unique viewpoint, Rebel! We don't have many Link fans.
Are there any moments in particular you like with Link?
mathtans
If I had to pick a favourite character, it might be Toshi. Not just because he's a writer, but because he's doing his best under crazy circumstances. And doesn't let his blindness stop him. (Also, my God, all the pathos for the issue with his wife.)
biab, little one's fussing.
RebelVampire
i dont know whether to applaud toshi's dedication to his wife or not. cause i mean loyalty is an admirable quality, but theres also a point i agree with markesha and its time to smack him into realizing she probably isnt coming back.
as for favorite link moments, probably the scenes at markesha's house. especially where he critiques audrey for how strong shes coming on...and then proceeds to come on very strong. besides being funny, i think its a good moment that shows he does basically just kind of his own moral compass for better or for worse.
but i also really liked the dialogue sequence between him and audrey that markesha could here
cause it really showed the vulnerability everyone is in atm
QUESTION 3. Despite having to work for Orson, there are many questions surrounding Orson’s work. Who exactly are Audrey and Link, and how do you think they wound up working with Orson? Who exactly is Orson? What are Orson’s personal motivations for participating in the project? For that matter, why is Orson so hated and blamed for what happened to the Cornerstone family? What do you think happened to the Cornerstone family exactly, and how might it tie in to the story? Also, who is Orson’s boss? What are they trying to accomplish as far as changing the balance of power goes? How are they trying to accomplish it? Lastly, what do you think was in the canister seen at the beginning of the comic?
ShaRose49
Idk what to think about Orson, I can’t tell if he’s good or bad. Leaning more towards good though. My fav thing about this is that it looks like an animated series and the father-daughter relationship is a pretty good one and I feel like I don’t see that very often so kudos to you guys for that
Carrie Tupper
Thanks @ShaRose49
ShaRose49
No prob!
mathtans
Back briefly. I feel like Toshi not wanting to leave isn't simply due to his wife though. When you're blind, and living in a place, you kinda know where everything is. Having to leave would suuuck.
ShaRose49
It’s inspiring to me cause I’d like to be involved in animation as well someday
@mathtans I agree
RebelVampire
but not wanting to leave when your daughter is being hunted by the local gang is borderline insanity XD
ShaRose49
Oh yeah
mathtans
(I'm not at the bit where Link/Audrey go to Markesha yet, so no comment on that.)
Except dude was providing an alternative to that. Just saying.
Carrie Tupper
@mathtans You're quite right. It's complicated for Toshi. There's most DEFINITELY an edge of "I won't leave her," but there's also the complications of leaving in both a mental and physical way. He's lived there forever, had memories built with his family, and leaving means he'd have to re-learn layouts all over again. That can be stressful and painful for someone who can't see.
mathtans
As to the latest question, maybe Orson's boss is one of those people vying to fill the vacant seat at the council chambers.
RebelVampire
but toshi wouldnt even consider leaving till markesha super forced his hand. and to me thats the point where it reaches obsession cause hes willing to trust is some rando stranger and risk his daughters safety just on the .000001% chance his wife is coming back and because eww change. and while i empathize with toshi, that is a moment where i felt hes just being a bad dad. cause his own pain is more important than the life of his daughter
mathtans
And as to the canister, I'd say it had seeds or something, but it was apparently super heavy without the suit, so that doesn't jibe.
Rebel: Fair point about the stranger trust thing. But there were some logical arguments in there too. I guess there's layers of opinion.
biab again
keii4ii
I like Orson. He seems like he genuinely believes what he's doing is the best option for many in a crappy world, and accepts the shady aspects of it as a necessary price. There's a lot about him that's yet to be revealed, so maybe I won't agree with his endgame, but I still see an inherent value in that... belief in a non-self-centered goal.
ShaRose49
@Respheal yeah he’s definitely not perfect
Got some issues
RebelVampire
i definitely think hes a good guy and has a non-self centered goal. that being said, bending the rules can...corrupt your moral compass. so if at the end hes an antagonist, i would not be surprised
also wrong tag there @ShaRose49
XD
ShaRose49
Whoops!!
I musta slipped
My bad
Respheal
o_o
lol, s'ok
ShaRose49
Oh heeey, we were just talking about you!
Carrie Tupper
xD
ShaRose49
Accidentally!!
RebelVampire
seeds would make the most sense there where the cannister is concerned. as for the heaviness, well that couldve been more from the cannister itself than whats in the cannister.
keii4ii
I am very sorry because this is a terrible, terrible idea, but "if at the end he's an antagonist" just made me imagine him becoming a Final Boss a la that nanomachine boss from the Metal Gear Solid series.
Carrie Tupper
Oof. I gotta keep my mouth shut here, but y'all got some interesting ideas about Orson. xD
RebelVampire
maybe whats in the cannister are the secrets to weather control cause you never have to worry about the crops again if you can control the weather
mathtans
Back, mostly. That's a good take on Orson, keii4ii.
Incidentally, I notice we're only, like, 15 years from the "end of the world" as far as the story chronology seems to go. Yikes?
Carrie Tupper
15?
RebelVampire
its okay keii i pictured him in about 20 different video game boss forms when i said that XD
keii4ii
omg
Carrie Tupper
Just put glasses and a half vest on EVERY boss xD
mathtans
The tag line says "what happens when the world's first superheroine shows up two hundred years after the end of the world"... and I thought I saw a date marker of, like, 2227 somewhere.
(Someone's birth year? Mirage? I dunno.)
Carrie Tupper
Year is 2235
2235 - 200 years is 2035
mathtans
Okay, so wasn't totally imagining it. That means 200 years ago was, like, shortly in our future.
Carrie Tupper
Da
mathtans
We're in trouble.
Carrie Tupper
....Da
mathtans
Da da da daaaaa.
RebelVampire
tbf this is not the worst of post apocalypses
i mean there is some semblance of order
and cities
mathtans
There's still bureauocratic jerks too. That whole "you're blacklisted but hey, keep applying and giving us money" shakedown annoyed me. In the good way of clever writing because I can see it happening and they're jerks.
RebelVampire
yeah i really like in general political bs hasnt gone away. cause thats very true to life.
mathtans
Related, kudos on establishing that Logan guy in the council as a total waste of oxygen within, like, two panels (as he went off about girls asking for it). Get bent.
Carrie Tupper
Logan is basically every jerk I've ever known brought to life.
It's cathartic in a way.
RebelVampire
im gonna take a stab in the dark at orson's motivations. i think the cornerstones essentially got murdered in a mysterious raid that im sure no other high ranking family had anything to do with. and that for better or for worse, orson got blamed because someone always needs to be blamed. and orson blames himself but he also recognizes how the system is flawed. so he wants to change the power dynamics by changing hte food system or something. cause food does seem to be the controlling factor here.
mathtans
It's nice to have a clear villain character somewhere. The kind that's too moronic to actually take over the world though.
RebelVampire
maybe thats what logan wants you to think. that hes too dumb to do anything. when really he is the shadow puppet master
Carrie Tupper
Hmmm! All interesting ideas
mathtans
Rebel: That's a good theory. Maybe being the scapegoat also twisted his morals a bit, he figured I might as well do some of the shadier things like killing people.
Rebel: Logan could be a puppet, that's for sure. But not a master, unless the real master wants him to think so.
RebelVampire
you know who i dont trust? lionness heritage. if i had to pick anybody who ruined the cornerstones, itd be her.
Carrie Tupper
Oh? How come?
mathtans
Rebel: The fact that the world ended with "the Withering" implies to me that food is definitely a key element.
Carrie Tupper
Quite right, @mathtans
mathtans
Hm, don't think I've got to the lionness yet.
Carrie Tupper
She's a trip.
RebelVampire
because she seems smart enough to know how to politics and is so far the one most interested in changing the power structure. and just the way she offered the crop things in a backhanded blackmail way makes her rub me in all the wrong ways. like, she kind of gives me the same impression orson does. where shes doing good while also being shady af. but in her case her motives are way more self-interested, so the self-interested plus the shady are a dangerous combonation(edited)
Carrie Tupper
Makes sense.
RebelVampire
tbh i would not be surprised if she was orson's boss, but actually fooled orson into thinking she wanted to do good things for everyone.
mathtans
Oooh, interesting theory.
Carrie Tupper
She's not a person to trifle with
Constance will have to be careful.
RebelVampire
but i do like constance. i hope she and markesha meet and become the ultimate duo. the one who politics and the one who works in the shadows.
QUESTION 4. Besides the major plot points, there are quite a number of politics and world issues about. Who are the Outlanders, and why are they disliked? Assuming Markesha’s mother was an Outlander, how did she wind up with Markesha’s father? What do you think ultimately happened to Markesha’s mother? Do you think Markesha and her father will find out during the story? How might it affect them? Less personally tied to Markesha is what’s going on in Halo. Do you think Orson will get out of his captivity? If so, how will it come about? Will Lionness Wright take Cornerstone’s seat High House seat? What is Lionness’ Heritage interest in Lionness Wright taking it? At last, do you think there is a chance one of the Cornerstone’s lived?
Carrie Tupper
@mathtans I have to admit I hope you'll comment through the next bit of story. The team and I would very much enjoy seeing yours or anyone else's reactions in realtime
mathtans
(Is there more Kamikaze and Flare? )
Carrie Tupper
(It's coming I promise, but it'll be a bit!)
All very good questions you've posed @RebelVampire
RebelVampire
im hoping we get to learn more about the outlanders. cause i mean namewise, obviously they are ppl who live outside the city. but at the same time, they mention that yellow eyes are a trait. and you dont have a shared trait if youre just ppl outside the walls.
mathtans
I admit, I'm real bad with geography in real life. It's worse in fantasy novels and comics for me. I remember there were three gates. That's... kind of all I got.
Oh yeah, the eyes. Though not all Outlanders.
RebelVampire
i didnt study the geography that hard this time, admittedly.
maybe toshi met his wife via some writing work? like doing some journalistic investigation on the lives of outlanders
mathtans
Started looking at Episode 3. Clever way of having the storm info playing in the background. Reminds me of how Toshi was looking at the news to give us backstory in an earlier bit.
Carrie Tupper
The geography of the city is pretty basic, but for reference...
RebelVampire
oh thats nice they have a river
very smart
Carrie Tupper
For reference Markesha's mom = Cassie
mathtans
Markesha really likes jumping to conclusions, doesn't she. Also, selective memory.
RebelVampire
ok cassie. i knew shed been named but i couldnt remember it
Carrie Tupper
Hey many she just got kinda blown up give her a break xD
RebelVampire
to be fair markesha is i think 19? thats basically still a kid and that is kid-like behavior
Carrie Tupper
Yep, in the scene with Rio she said she turned 20 in a week.
Happy birthday~ Markesha
mathtans
Oh, I'm not faulting it. Just, perhaps especially as a teacher, I roll my eyes.
Carrie Tupper
One of the things I have to catch myself in a lot when reading anything is the memory of the character doesn't always match our own, especially if said character wasn't present at or had certain information communicated to them
mathtans
Also kind of impressive how every page has it's own title. That's attention to detail. (I do it, but that's only because they're all 4-panels.)
Carrie: Truth.
RebelVampire
maybe cassie was involved in some espionage. like maybe she married toshi just to have a cover so she could spy for outlanders. and then when her mission was done she left. or ya know, was viciously murdered. which i would be amazingly surprised if she was alive. i dont buy into the characters' hopes. i feel shes just been gone too long for it to have been anything else.
Carrie Tupper
lol, Alan and I beat our heads against the wall EVERY WEEK to make sure we haven't reused those titles. xD
mathtans
biab, little one fussing.
Carrie Tupper
Cassie's fate is at this point unknown to everyone, but I definitely know her fate and do my best to sprinkle it in
In fact there's a lot of things I sprinkle in through the series. Like the fact Julain shows up WAAAAAY before book 3.
RebelVampire
interesting
Carrie Tupper
https://i0.wp.com/kamikazeanimated.com/comic/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/pg_05.jpg?w=900
mathtans
Back. Yeah, I have a text file of titles. If I think of one I'm not sure of, I simply do a search.
RebelVampire
omg thats such a sneaky appearance too
mathtans
Cassie was actually a time traveller!
Carrie Tupper
hahaha xD
RebelVampire
but also makes me picture on one page somewhere theres a hidden newspaper article that readers "many year long cold case of murdered woman in alley still not solved! read the story on page 4!"
mathtans
Damn. Nice foreshadow.
Carrie Tupper
Mmmmmaaaybe
One of my goals when writing this is to leave little things for return readers to find and enjoy
that way when they re-read they notice new things, and the experience is fresh in a different way
RebelVampire
thats always a good thing to have. especially when it things like that where you smack yourself in the forehead cause you didnt realize a character had already appeared before
mathtans
Yeah, that's awesome.
RebelVampire
off topic to that but like http://kamikazeanimated.com/comic/kamikaze/pg-1-moving-day/ how can anybody not like link after looking at this page? look at those beautiful and jovial expressions minus the adorable pout
Carrie Tupper
Orson's little sneer at the tablet being waved in his face always makes me smile
mathtans
Interesting about a panic switch, didn't expect that arrest. They didn't even read his rights.
Carrie Tupper
...y'all have a really positive view of the Trinity justice system
mathtans
I live in hope. The romantic in me.
RebelVampire
yeah i think thats math there. im even surprised they didnt just gun them down and go "whoops they slipped into my bullets"
mika
oh we're talking about something that i do not know
mathtans
Markesha staying in one place for calibration? Yeah, good luck with that.
Rebel: Point.
Carrie Tupper
Hiya mika!
RebelVampire
this is the channel for our thursday book club chat. were talking about kamikaze http://kamikazeanimated.com/comic/ @mika
especially orson. i for sure orson would get shot cause man is there a lot of hate for orson.
so really insofar
their treatment has been better than i expected
Carrie Tupper
That's fair
mika
oooo
mathtans
Orson looks really different without his glasses.
Carrie Tupper
I guess ultimately the HSF knows if they do anything to hurt Orson they'llhave to answer to the High House LEOs and...well
mathtans
He's got some pull still.
Carrie Tupper
I'm not sure who I'd want to answer to less in that situation
Fun note: The shot where we see the other inmates via Orson's view is directly related to how blurry people look w/o my glasses on.
mathtans
Okay, one last theory... the canister at the start held some of the "Withering" disease in storage, that people were studying. They want it in order to create a vaccine/cure, but others are fine with the world the way it is.
I am very with you on that. My prescription is high.
mika
im going to try reading it! im always looking for more webcomics to snatch
Carrie Tupper
I hope you'll enjoy it @mika and feel free to comment on the pages! The team loves chatting with our readers
mathtans
(Made it to the end of Act 1 atleast.)
Carrie Tupper
haha xD
mika
oof im guilty of not commenting enough
Carrie Tupper
Act 2 is insanely long, so I'm sure it won't take any time for you
RebelVampire
i really loved that blurry shot. as a glasses wearer, that is a detail so many comics do not capture. that yeah, without glasses, ppl cant bloody see that well.
Carrie Tupper
Yep. I also needed to establish that for later shenanigans
mathtans
(I'm actually a pretty slow reader. I'm also bad at keeping up with things. Even my own websites.)
RebelVampire
and the cannister containing a copy of the disease is interesting, math. although sounds extremely dangerous. like...jackal did not treat that cannister with enough care if thats whats in it XD
mathtans
I wonder if we'll get much from Toshi's point of view then. Could save the artist some time.
Carrie Tupper
omg right?
I have thought about having a dream sequence for Toshi
where all wee see are the 'sounds' he hears
mathtans
Jackal seemed pretty sure of himself and not inclined to listen to advice though.
(I wonder if that was a code name, like "Rabbit"?)
Carrie Tupper
It was.
mathtans
Well played.
Carrie Tupper
If you look at the "list of affiliations" on Orson's file that we did, you may find him hidden in the list
mathtans
Good job all around, as far as final words go. The amount of worldbuilding behind the scenes is damn impressive, you get the impression that it's only the tip of the iceberg being shown.
RebelVampire
that would definitely be an interesting experience. to see the world as toshi sees it, metaphorically speaking.
mathtans
(I'm baffled about how it could have been goofy in the conception, it's pretty serious now, I think.)
RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB END!
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hisui-cotton · 5 years
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It's a wall of text and a (kinda) open letter
To preface and TL;DR. I made one tweet about how excited I was for what happened this episode and someone replied shooting me down for supporting Bumblebee saying that they just hugged it's not canon they didn't say I love you or kiss, when honestly I'm not a person that's for or against it I just kinda want the girls to be happy and it just seems like it'll be together. And that made me happy for them. Then I saw someone on tumblr being berated with people snapping at them for being sad for their different ship, while still being happy for Bumblebee shippers. So this is a post about...fandom. About how I think we should probably be considering being better to eachother if we aren't already.
Everything past here is it
Bumblebee being this close to all but outright "theyre in love love!" canon is great. It doesn't mean that people are allowed to hate other shippers now, or that the show is picking favorites in ships. These are fictional characters that have had certain stories written for them for a long time. If someone still wants to ship monochrome or ladybug or freezerburn they can! That's why the term canon exists to set apart the difference. It doesn't make it anymore of a reason to put down other shippers. Some people have lost general interest in the show for a long time and in honesty this fandom doesn't really help in this regard.
Bumblebee shippers that aren't sending death threats to writers or other people that ship something else, thanks for understanding and being a good person who is fine with whatever outcome could have come from this show.
People who think the writers gave in to fandom, please rethink the possibilities of this, we're at the point where the things Monty used to say were thought of a long time ago are finally coming to light. We got the Lost Fable which showed how the moon shattered, something that's been in the story since the trailers (back at the end 2012 and start of 2013- 5 to 6 years ago). We got more answers to Silver Eyes something that Ozpin mentioned in the first episode as a simple character trait. There are things that are probably so far down the line still we can't think of them. We don't know the answers to why things played out the way they did. If you want them maybe try watching some interviews on Rwby Rewind? Maybe wait to see if Kerry or Miles answer questions or write about what it was like to do this storyline. Just please don't jump to the conclusion that things happened because of fandom. Fandoms do fucking crazy shit, especially into the start, when maybe they don't need to and should just enjoy the show for what it's being in the moment.
If you think this is so wrong and Yang and Blake could never be together, they both like men only or something along those lines: No one has set such lines. Just because Blake stood by Adam or kissed Sun's cheek means she can't love Yang. There are bisexuals! And just because a lesbian dated guys previously doesn't mean she isn't any less of lesbian! She just realized she doesn't have that interest in men bc she dated them but is happier dating women! The same way gay guys can date a girl and realize that they just aren't into women!
If someone wants to drop the show, let them, if someone doesn't know if they want to leave the show behind, let them decide what they want to do, its their own life and they're intrests. If something isn't catering to them and they have other things and interests then maybe just let them live their life. Everyone has reasons for losing interest in something for different reasons, so don't jump at them with assumption that they're reason is bad. They can do what they want.
If you are dropping the show because you are homophobic, byeeeeeeee! I can't tell you any other way that this is the worst reason to drop a show and it's not even the shows fault or the fandoms, you're just not that great a person and I'm honestly surprised you've been in this fandom for so long as it is. Thank you for leaving and making or random just a bit of a better place for it. You can do what you want somewhere else.
Shippers, keep shipping respectfully, be the best you can be to your other shippers. Tell them how great that fanfic was or how pretty that fanart is, you don't need to say not your ship the creator does ship it so you dont need to oreo your compliments (sandwiching a thing you like, thing you dont like, thing you like, kinda comment). And hey maybe explore other ships! Not the illegal ones of course (age, incest, etc.) But maybe you never thought of Yang and Ren together or Blake and Velvet, and it sounds interesting! Be open and accept that just because someone else ships it doesn't mean they're trying to force it down you're throat. If someone is trying to come at you saying you're ship is trash and they're ship is the best, kindly tell them to fuck off and that you know they shouldn't be talking for a bunch of other people when there's like a billion other ships that are also perfect, including your own. This is sounding a little aggressive now but understand that I mean ships, just cuz you don't like them, don't mean anything because they're just a fun activity that people partake in creating content for. They deserve the respect that you would want from someone else.
Sorry for the wall of text everyone but if you read this, think I'm ridiculous for trying to be some "voice of reason" or someone who thinks this fandom is going to shit, wait. I'm plenty aware of what the fandom is like and what other people do to others. One of my favorite artists is getting anons and such about being a bad person because they are considering dropping the show. Its fine, they may be dropping it for their reasons and not for the reasons of someone else who is toxic, it's their own choice. You may say "well the show needs more support as it is now that all the homophobes are leaving" yeah it will and it's wrong you think that it won't get that. I have every faith that everthings gonna be okay, I mean I'm still here and I can't stand some of the things that have happened when it comes to real life people and this fandom, but this show is not the fandom. This show is what people see in it. This show is what people love about it. It's what people ship in it to their own satisfaction. It's what Monty, Kerry and Miles wrote TOGETHER. This show is everything that's happened in it and not what fandom hates or loves. It's just what it is.
Sorry it's long and that I only seem to contribute these kinds of posts but I appreciate that you even took the time to consider one voice in this.
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xottzot · 6 years
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2018--SEPT-14th-2018-Friday mid morning---THIS HELLHOLE OF WHITE & ABO CRIMS AND CRIME & HELL.
2018--SEPT-14th-2018-Friday mid morning---THIS HELLHOLE OF WHITE & ABO CRIMS AND CRIME & HELL.
Dear Fliss, please know that poor Sam and poor Max and poor me are all suffering without being with YOU.
Anyone reading this and my blog does NOT KNOW the hell here and what it is.
Currently the ONLY thing missing is the streams of constant Police sirens tearing about......though they HAVE been all around this area....
So.....you dear Reader think just because the VERY criminal aboriginals have been lawfully evicted and thrown out of the houses...YOU think that crime and shit has gone down here and all about have you?
YOU'RE WRONG
AND...EXACTLY AS I WROTE IN MY BLOG FOR YEARS.....the 'season' of crime and criminality has temporarily shifted from the VERY CRIMINAL AND VICIOUS aboriginals to the the VERY CRIMINAL AND VICIOUS white ones......
As was happening last night......
And is even now the criminal effects are being seen in the media such as below....
WA NEWS:------ Police charge man over Malaga BMW chase crash
September 14, 2018 9:58AM
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/police-charge-man-over-malaga-bmw-chase-crash-ng-b88960402z
And there's a NEWS report video of the resultant scene. It's a pity the shithead trying to escape Police wasn't killed because they surely deserve it.....oh, and they were escaping Police in a BMW vehicle....not an 'ordinary car'..and they crashed into a blackboy,.....mustv'e been one strong blackboy (they can be) but then again in criminal incidents SO MANY TREES have been crashed into and have survived (barely).
I expect now the local sales of BMW's will now rise as shitheads think they're safer and more capable if you're a criminal chased by Police....
The shitty NEWS treats it all and simply focuses on the car being torn in two...and that the occupants (criminals) survived......
And as for the criminals now being in a city hospital.....THAT just makes things hell for hospital and it's staff AND all other patients.....I KNOW because such a thing happened to me when I was in hospital for an injury and swarms of 'certain people' took over the hospital ward I was in and plenty of uniformed Police were called in and we innocent patients all were hurriedly evacuated far away into another hospital ward elsewhere and the ward was sealed off........because of the 'certain people' having taken it over and before the Police incident had been attracting more and more and more......as if it was a fucking free hotel with free meals and free entertainment and free everything....
At first the hospital idiotically tried accomodating all these shits as if it was all a fucking HOTEL! - The fuckers took over patients beds, ordered AND ALSO STOLE meals from the hospital rounds.....patients meals were 'vanishing' whilst patients were in other hospital areas..and then we innocent patients kept getting blamed whenever we dared to ask for our meals....and it all made hell for everyone.......
AND YOU DID NOT READ ABOUT THAT IN ANY NEWS....NOR WILL YOU.....
The hospital corridors were FULL of Police......a riot ensued more than once culminating in we poor patients being transported out to other wards on and in our hospital beds and the entire ward being emptied out......
Oh, and the ones respsonsible were the usual untouchable criminals that everyone tries to ignore and accomodate and do everthing for despite them never taking no for an answer and worse than rabid foetid rats......
In a hospital......
A hospital....that's supposed to be caring for the infirm.....but the criminals NEVER care about anything but themselves.......
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Today this mid morning I was ONCE AGAIN accosted by fake friendly begging shits.......
As I was going there to get a simple small loaf of plain bread from out of the small change of mine I had scraped together because I'm so poor.
But even as I was walking to go past them I stated clearly and simply, "I'M NOT INTERESTED. AND I'VE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE. YOU'RE GETTING NOTHING OUT OF ME."
And before I'd even reached the door they STILL launched into badgering me to wear me down to just give them swathes of money so they could just walk around the corner and go into the booze shop......or buy cigarettes....or others stuff to have with the booze....
THIS IS NOT NEW OR UNUSUAL SHIT...IT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AT THIS HELLHOLE......
(And the booze shop has also been the scene of countless crime and criminals and Police.)
And soon enough the streets have emptied stinking bottles smashed on them, on the footpaths, thrown into or smashed into peoples yards., fighting in the streets, criminal thefts out of peoples vehicles, thefts of peoples vehicles........
And also they'd get soft drink bottles but were actually filled by them full of hard booze so they could wander all about the streets forever drunk and violent and criminal. - If any Police vehciel was seen nearby, they'd just drop the bottle and come back to it (maybe, IF they could rememeber), and there was SO MANY MANY bottles left all over the place andor hidden in innocent residents gardens which was handy for them when they would rob them too. -- ALL THIS WAS/IS NOT JUST CONFINED TO ADULTS BUT CRIMINAL 'CHILDREN' TOO.
And all this FOR YEARS WAS ALSO BEING DONE BY THE VERY VERY CRIMINAL 'CHILDREN 'OF THEM TOO......AND ESCALATING.......(there's temporarily a 'lull' period of those VERY CRIMINAL AND VERY VERY VIOLENT CHILDREN shits...)
And ANY and EVERYONE I told anywhere else they totally REFUSED to believe any of this was happening or had hapened or could happen again and again and again......
And because THEY could not accept such shit was actually going on...THEY BLAMED ME.....OR THOUGHT ME 'MISTAKEN' or such, despite countless Police incidents......all of which YOU never read in any damned 'informative' NEWS....
And 'anonymous Watchers' roamed the streets (AND STILL DO AGAIN) watching and noting down on electronic devices things they oberved as they slowly walked around (or slowly drove around) sticking to set regular permanent routes and timetables which the criminals learned of them and avoided them like clockwork...the criminal shits.
So I fucking well just STOPPED doing ANYTHNG for ANYONE.....NOBODY cares and nobody does anything, least of all with the situation with dear Fliss and myself being terribly parted.......of which I WAS BLAMED FOR TOO despite myself being totally innocent and dear Fliss being totally innocent.....
But no.....fucking dickheads still keep thinking it's ME....only because THEY can intelligently talk to me....since they refuse to try to even get near any stinkin' booze addled andor illegal drugged-up crazy insane violent guilty criminal others who could attack them at any moment AND the criminals get away with doing such.....
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Another day in this hellhole.
And that's NOT even telling you here about other shit that has been going on.......no, fuck you....you're SO SMART...then YOU try try to figure out what criminal shit and other shit has been going on Sherlock...but YOU won't.....YOU just want information served up to you like custard so you can accept it since you REFUSE to want my life being any better in this hellhole and for dear Fliss and I to be together again. - Fuck you.
Poor Sam and poor Max have AGAIN been harangued by shit of his hellhole and it woke me and us despite us all just being asleep and having got to sleep after the LAST LOT of shit going on at this fucking hellhole......
And this morning I've seen that somebody has previously tried to break-in AGAIN.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR FUCKING YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
FUCK YOU. I'M NOT TELLING YOU EVERYTHING.
FUCK YOU. I'M NOT TELLING YOU ANYYTHING.
It's pointless me even trying to say anything. That is why I have long since stopped. And then people wonder why I'm so 'silent' and don't talk to them and keep to myself yet I'm a very decent person, a very kind person,...a person slammed and imprisoned into this fucking hell......
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Let's just fucking well see what OTHER shit plays out in the NEWS shall we?
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There once was a 'season' for terrible shit...now it's at ANY time and ALL the time......
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I still have not won Lotto or anything, just as has been the case all my life despite trying.
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I love you dear Fliss and want to be with you. Dear Sam and dear Max want to be with you and us.
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Oh, and of course to top things off again.... shitty Tumblr is now fucking me around....
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Can an uninsured person get affordable dental care?
I have a deep cavity in my tooth. It's really starting to hurt me. I know it needs drilled and filled, but I barely make enough money to pay bills, let alone dental care. My job doesn't offer dental insurance, either. Is there anything I can do?""
What's the best auto insurance you can get for a female under 25?
I had Liberty Mutual. I got a low premium because of my parents but when the taxes went up they totally jacked up my premium. Plus their customer service is TERRIBLE and they're grimy. So then I went to Progressive - One lady helped me get my policy, then I called them for another reason and another rep. said I didn't even get the best quote I could've gotten. I'm kind done with these brand name insurance companies. I was looking into one called Elephant insurance but I'm not sure if it's actually any good. Does anyone know anything about them? Is there any other company I can try? I'm 20, I turn 21 next month. I've never had an accident. And I don't know what my credit score is or if I even have one yet (I'm working on it.)""
If I have a suspended license but someone else drives my car how can I get the insurance back on my car?
I just found out my license is suspended, so I can not drive. I have a friend that drives my car and takes me to my kids appointments, but now I have no insurance due to suspended license. I am working with attorney to get a temp license, but not sure how to get the insurance back on my car. I am single mother who needs to have the insurance on my car.""
Car insurance help? ?
Car insurance for a school permit? my question involves teen drivers and insurance i am a 15 year old in iowa, i would like to get a school permit (in iowa, this allows me to drive to and from school over the most direct route without an adult in the vehicle)because of the many extracurriculars I'm involved with. my dad was wondering though if it would be very expensive to get me on the insurance plan. here are some factors -we are with westfield insurrance -I'm a 15 year old girl -honor student -passed drivers ed with an A -my parents work at the school, so i would catch a ride when i could with them, i would only probably use the school permit for late night or early morning practices (i mention this because i read that if a person only drives occasionally it could lower costs slightly? ) -never been in an accident or been pulled over -i wouldn't be driving a fast car, probably our van or pontiac grand am any estimates on costs? my dad said that i wouldn't be able to get on the insurance if it was 100 or more $ a year, so if you could give me some suggestions on how to lower it or any tips at all, i would really appreciate it""
Do you know where I can get a Flood Zone Determination and Flood Insurance Quote In Ca?
If you are looking for more information on FEMA's recent flood map changes in oxnard California where can you find it? Im interested in some type of flood zone determination and a quote. My insurance agent doesn't know very much about it. How much does flood insurance cost? I have lots of questions any ideas?
Car Insurance Cost in NYC?
I have a question regarding car insurance. I'm 29 years old. I've been in 3 car accidents but was not at fault for any of them (2 of the times my car was sitting still! lol) and I've never gotten a ticket for any of those accidents. I used to have insurance through State Farm, full coverage for a 2004 Jeep Liberty that cost 50-60 a month in upstate NY. While driving to NYC one winter I got a speeding ticket, my first ticket ever! I was going I think 82(?) in a 65. This was just before I moved to NYC, and because I got the ticket in a podunk little county I was driving through I had no idea what the name was, the ticket flew out my door and I lost it. I figured they would mail me something else to tell me the payment was late but I never received anything else about it. Well I found out later it was because I moved, even though I moved about 2 months after the fact they wait quite a while to send another notice, and I never received it. Thus, my license was suspended but I never knew. I never got caught driving without it either. So I moved here in 2007 with my Jeep which I was very behind payments for, and then it got towed away for alternate side parking BS. I could have borrowed the money back then to pay to get it out but I let it go. Alright so long story short, I don't have the truck, it was auctioned. I'll be done paying for it through a collection agency settlement offer this May. If I had kept the truck, I would be paying 200+ more a month than I pay now, and I wouldn't have been done paying it til August 2011. Plus I would have had to pay to catch it up the 3 months I was behind, plus pay my boyfriends brother back who was willing to lend me the money to get it out of the car jail (lol) I had the suspension lifted last July so I could rent a car, again no issues. So I'm thinking of buying a 2,000 car (cash! I learned my lesson) in June when I'm done paying for the truck and I want to get no fault insurance. I know it will be a lot more here then what I used to pay, and in addition I now have a suspension that wasn't there before. How much do you guys have to pay for your insurance, if it's not too much information to ask? And how much do you think mine might be, or compare your cost and history to mine? Thanks.""
Why is van insurance so much more than car insurance?
i have a VW POLO mk2, 1.3. im trying to by a vauxhall rascal 970cc and the insurance is more than double. why? the van insurance is quoted at 1400 pounds best. its for social use only, minimum mileage with no tools. its crazy. the polo was only 480 pounds.
Does having an sr22 lower my insurance by any chance?
So i know since im young and have a driving record that my insurance is outrages. i was wondering if getting an sr22 would help?
Average cost of car insurance ?! 20YO?
I'm a 20 year old female , I'm about to get my own car insurance . What's the average monthly cost for someone my age with just an old beater car?""
Best car for gas and insurance for a 16 year old male?
Hi im a 16 year old male and need a older car because apparently there better on insurance? old as in from 1996-2002 what would be my best bet for gas/insurance?
Insurance question?
Well I'm under 18 and don't live with my parents. my job doesn't offer dental or health insurance. I need to go to an orthodontist to get a check up, and I may need some kind of retainer, braces etc because of jaw pains. Is there a way you can make payments without insurance? Or get some kind of plan? If I can't do anything until I'm 18 what kind of insurance should I get? thanks!""
CRAZY Insurance Premium! Any way out?
From Toronto, Ontario, I am a 19 y/o male and want my own vehicle. Without paying a crazy insurance rate of $6000+ per year, how can a 3rd vehicle be purchased and licensed under my parent's name (I live with them) having them as the primary driver? The problem is, from what I know, if I am licensed and living at the same address, I will automatically be primary driver of the 3rd vehicle as now there are 3 drivers and 3 vehicles. So what if my parents had 6 cars? There must be some way out..""
Car parts insurance company ?
Is there by any chance a(n) insurance company that covers your mechanic bills. Don't lose me here just follow. You know how you pay a monthly fee for car insurance incase you ever get in a car accident, well is there by any chance a company that covers your car parts bills. Kinda like how car insurance cover you incase of an accident, except you pay monthly fees to this company and they cover your car bills incase your car breaks down and you take it to the mechanic (example: alternator, starter, any car part, etc). I don't know if such a company exist but I remember a couple years ago hearing about something like this on the radio. If you know of such a company please let me know I would like to sign up for it.""
""Hit and Run, no witnesses, lying to insurance?""
So, I was with my girlfriend and we parallel parked in a space which we soon realized was restricted. So she pulls out of the space, too close to the delivery truck in front of her, and side swipes it on the way out. We pull off to the side, see no damage to the truck, but a huge gash in the side of her car. We decide to leave, since the only damage is hers. The next morning, she goes to the body shop to get the damage assessed. They tell her it is going to be over $4000 to repair. She decides to file it with insurance, saying that she had left her car parked on the street, and found it this way, assuming it was a hit and run in the opposite direction. Had she asked me before doing this, I probably would have advised against lying about it, but she has. So, the insurance inspector is coming to assess the damage in the next few days. My question is, how rigorous are these inspections? Will these guys be able to look at a gash in the side of her car, and tell that it was inflicted by her sideswiping a truck, not the other way around?""
Home contents insurance?
im looking for an all in one contents insurance. which will cover mechancal breakdown of white goiods, tvs etc... as i recenetly found out the isurance i have got only covers incase of flooding, fire and theft. not when my cooker blew up. please help, as im new to having my own flat and nver had to do things like this before""
""ATTN: New drivers, How much is your insurance a month??
I just got my insurance today and was curious to see what other ppl are paying. Thanks in advance:)
Car insurance?
okay i just got my license. and my friend and i want to go places..my friend is only physicaly able to ride in her grandmas van cause my friend is in a wheel chair like all the time ...show more
What's the insurance price for a 10 ft boat?
I would like to know how much The insurance would cost for a 10 ft fiberglass fishing boat? Anyone can give me an estimate? Thanks
What is the cheapest car insurance if you have bad credit and low income?
What to do if you can't afford car insurance
Life insurances?
types of insurance available in USA
Does marital status affect my auto insurance premium?
Does marital status affect my auto insurance premium?
Cost of insurance for minor with acura rsx-s?
oh fyi I am not trying to get my own insurance plan I am adding on to my family's
Which companies offer life insurance to clients who have chronic health problems?
I am 37 years old with a diagnosis of lupus (not flaring) with a history of minor kidney involvement, deep vein thrombosis, and high blood pressure. I have been trying to get life insurance but have been consistently denied by the major companies to which I have applied. Does anyone have any suggestions? The only suggestion I received from one company was the hint to purchase Accidental Death and Disability, and if my medical condition worsened, to have an accident . I am hoping for better advice.""
How to get health insurance in nj?
im 19 need health insurance cant get under my moms anymore where do i start what do i do is it expensive?
Good motorcycle insurances?
I just got a new dirt bike and I can't race with it at the track without insurances, what are a couple of cheap motorcycle insurances. I called this one place before and they wanted to charge me 700$ a month""
How much would i have to pay extra on my car insurance if i added my 18 year old son?
he jus got his license a few days ago?
Pregnancy insurance???????
im pregnant and i dont have insurance that will cover me or the baby. I am trying for medicaid and will probably qualify but barely. And i want to get married before the baby is born but again we might just barely qualify. Is there any suggestions on insurance plans or help with medicaid?
Auto Insurance Question!! Please Help!!?
Alright, so im an 18 year old boy in beaverton oregon and i currently drive a 2006 scion tC. I have been looking at nissan 350z's and am quite interested in them. I am very curious as to how much my insurance could raise by getting a 2004 nissan 350z. I am on my parents insurance with USAA if that helps. I really need to know, both times ive called USAA they wont speak to me because i am not the owner of the account and their online quoting doesnt seem to work... neither of my parents will call either. I would really appreciate any answers. Once again, i drive a 2006 scion tC and i want to know the insurance of a 2004 nissan 350z. Please and Thanks!!""
I need to health insurance but i got laid off work...?
I understand that i need health insurance. Cuz face it, you never know when it's necessary. I've been looking for a job since I got laid off in March. Cobra turned out to be too expensive. What are some low cost health insurances that are good? Since i'm low on cash i dont wanna throw money into a bad insurance company. Are there any programs in California that can assist me? At least until i can find a job.""
""In GA, if the moving violation is no longer on my DMV record, can insurance companies penalize me anyway?""
A bit over two years ago, I got a ticket for a turn I made that wasn't sharp enough. In GA, moving violations leave your record after 24 months, so it should be gone by now. Can my insurance company continue to penalize me for it, though? Do they have to lower my rates now that it's off my record? If I go to a new insurance company, will my current one pass along the information somehow even though the DMV doesn't have it on file?""
Where is the best place to get cheap car insurance for young drivers?
Where is the best place to get cheap car insurance for young drivers?
Can insurance companies do this?
my family is on allstate for car insurance and im kinda ticked off and confused, im 17 now , got my licence and drive around in my dads car. the problem here is that, insurance companies see me as a PRIMARY driver. My dad is a primary and my mom is legally blind, so she doesn't drive. (Hence shes not on the plan) im only 17 and they wont let us put me as a part time driver, my insurance a year is about $3,000!!!! is there anything we can do to change this?""
Why is van insurance so much more than car insurance?
i have a VW POLO mk2, 1.3. im trying to by a vauxhall rascal 970cc and the insurance is more than double. why? the van insurance is quoted at 1400 pounds best. its for social use only, minimum mileage with no tools. its crazy. the polo was only 480 pounds.
Cheap Health Insurance in Arizona?
My dad and I haven't been to the doctor in years, he's almost 55 and it's really time he gets a checkup. Unfortunately, we're not the richest the people but we make too much to get state insurance. I was wondering if there are any cheap insurance options. The cheapest I've been able to find is $133 a month which is still pretty high for us. Oh and I'll be 19 in a few months, which seems to be the cutoff family insurance age.""
Why is my car insurance so high?
About me; I'm 18 years old, no past convictions / points on my license. Passed my test as well as Pass Plus a week or so back. Car I've got; 1994 1.2 Corsa LS (5 door) --- Most of my friends have similarly old / small cars and are paying between 500 - 900 insurance. I'm keeping the car on my drive, and yet the cheapest I can find any insurance is with Direct Line (1,600) Why is my insurance nearly 3 times as expensive as theirs? :(""
Should I take a term insurance rather than home mortgage insurance?
Normally many banks want the home loan borrowers to take mortgage insurance. Here there are controversies since many suggest borrowers should take term insurance instead. But do term insurances always give better protection than term insurance? How does a mortgage insurance compare with term insurance in terms of premium amount, premium payment period, risk cover of death, disability, chronic disease, surrender value, survival benefits etc? Apparently the term insurances are cheaper but have to be paid for a much longer period than mortgage insurance (generally paid for about 1/3rd of loan period.) So which options is better? I would specifically like to know about such products available in India. Thanks.""
Insurance costs between 1.0 and 1.4?
i just got my driving licence and im trying to buy used car.. im looking at insurance prices and was wondering how much difference i would have between 1.4 engine and 1.0. im in my mid 20's and was wondering if u could get a car with bigger engine then 1.0 and still pay reasonable price im looking for only few years old small car.. nothing flashy.
Where can i get low cost motorcycle insurance ?
i live in ontario canada ,, i want to buy a honda cbr 250 , and would like to find a low cost insurance for my bike , so far i got some way off price quote with a difference of $280.00 ,so i suspect they are over charging ,even at the low end , they say i'm covered for 12 months months but a motorcycle is not meant to ride in cold and snow and salty streets as the salt would ruin the chain and other parts of the motorcycle .""
""How much Unemployment Insurance if I made $50,000?""
How much money would I get from UI(Unemployment Insurance) if I made $50,000 Annually? I live in California, and I know the max is $450 a week. But I have a feeling that $50,000 doesn't qualify for the max. So how much do you think one person would qualify for if they made $50,000 Salary.""
""Honda Sport 1.6 Insurance for an 18 years old, second driver...?""
I am looking to get 2004 Honda 1.6 Sport and I am only 18. My dad is planning to be the first driver and me as a second when it comes to the car's insurance. Guys, how much do you think the insurance would cost us?""
Insurance Agency Tax Help 1120S?
I own an insurance agency. I have a seperate checking account for insurance premium funds. When we collect a insurance premium payment from a customer, the funds are deposited into this account and then we send our agency check to the insurance company. How are these funds treated on form 1120S?""
50cc moped scooter insurance?
I live in PA. I am thinking about geting a moped scooter 50cc. About how much does insurance cost?
""Pregnant, parents health insurance?""
I just found out that I am pregnant, and i am currently under my parents health insurance, I am 20 and a full time college student, will my parents insurance drop me because I am pregnant? If I quit school they will also drop me right?""
Cheap motocycle insurance?
Ive got 1 claim and 1 conviction so finding insurance is hard enough does any one where i can find the cheapest cover for my bike its a 125cc bike and im 18 please help
Do i need insurance to sell motobikes?
I am selling mini moto's and quad bikes online, do i need liability insurance to sell these?""
Can the insurance of a car I own cover 16 year old girl driver?
Can the insurance of a car I own cover 16 year old girl driver?
""Moving to CO from another state in a month, how do I go about switching my car insurance? ?""
I'm under my dad's insurance now (AAA).. it's his and my car on his policy. I was told by them that once I cancel it, it'll take effect immediately and be taken off the policy. I'm moving to CO on the 18th of next month and want my new insurance (USAA) to take effect on that day. If I start my policy for that day and cancel the AAA the same day, will AAA pro-rate June's insurance so I don't have to pay for the full month since my car won't be insured by them for that whole month? I just don't want to get stuck paying the bill twice in one month for both companies.""
What is the most affordable health insurance in Los Angeles?
I am trying to find health insurance as a 35 yr old male. I have never had insurance before and don't have any illnesses. What is the most cost effective health insurance that will cover me and will allow me to go get a tune up quickly?
Have car insurance prices gone up in the past few months?
Hello About 3 months ago i looked for car insurance prices for my myself as an additional driver on my parents car and was getting quoted prices for 1300 ish, now i looked again this morning and they are more like 1700-2500 what has happen ? I dont get why they would fluctuate this much, any ideas ?""
Can I ask my own car insurance to pay?
I was a passenger in my friends car when a tire from a semi ( that drove away and identity is unknown) hit several cars and my back hurts. I want to go to a chiropractor but have no insurance. I don't want to sue the driver or go after the drivers insurance because he is my friend. Can I choose to ask my own insurance company to pay?
Is triple a the best car insurance?
Is triple a the best car insurance?
What's the best dental insurance for me to get?
I have pre-existing damage (deep cavities, exposed enamel). I live in garland, Tx 75040. Pretty much im looking for dental insurance that covers pre-existing damage""
How much does a teeth cleaning cost w/o insurance?
I got a mailer coupon from a dentist that says they only charge $46 for a regular cleaning & $29 for an exam & x-ray so total $75. I live in Las Vegas. Seems kinda a cheap gimmick? But what is the average price for exam/x-ray/teeth cleaning w/o insurance?
Approximate cost for teen motorcycle insurance?
hey, im 17 years old and live in Ontario, i recently got my G2 but cannot find a way to get car insurance cheap enough to actually warrant getting a car. I was wondering if anyone has any ballpark answer as to how much motorcycle insurance is at my age? every google search i do says you should ask your insurance broker , well i will, but i just want to see if its even worth looking at or if its going to be like $300 a month like car insurance. the bike would probably just be like a cheap used early 1990's bike, nothing special. thanks""
Car insurance for a non working vehicle?
My car needed a major repair last fall. I work from home and have been trying to pay off student loans so I decided to do without a car for 6 months since I live in a convenient location- I just received my tax return and can afford the major repair. I stopped my car insurance while I wasn't driving since it was $125/mo and I now need to start it back up. I am switching companies since I really didn't like mine- I just got to the questions about insurance lapse does this apply to me since my car wasn't working? I haven't returned my form yet. I hope I didn't screw this up, a friend just told me I should have possibly kept a storage coverage that my rates might skyrocket. It's an older car with no loan attached. I live in MN, perfect driving record, was with the same company for 25 years and had never missed a payment. If it is considered a lapse is there a way to get around it legally like giving/selling my car to my boyfriend and then listing me as a driver so I can use it when needed? We don't live together but he did most of the driving when we did use it- it's not worth much, maybe a few thousand dollars at most- maybe I'd be better off selling my car and getting a new (used) one so I don't have to explain a gap? Thanks.""
Can a person with fully comp insurance drive an uninsured car?
Can a person with fully comp insurance drive an uninsured car? I have cancelled my insurance on my car as MOT is over. It's in a garage so don't matter. But if My father takes it to the MOT place can he drive it with his fully comp insurance he has on his car?
Cheaper Car Insurance For Teenage Drivers?
Can you help. I priced car insurance for my 16 year old son, and my premium will almost triple. I know all of you will post that he should just get a job, and that is fine, but I want him to save money for college, not to make an insurer rich. OK?""
Insurance question?
I just bought a 2008 Honda Accord, exl, 4 cyl. I can't even drive it because I dont have insurance, what is the cheapest (most affordable insurance) I should get, i am 20 years old living in ontario california.""
Why is van insurance so much more than car insurance?
i have a VW POLO mk2, 1.3. im trying to by a vauxhall rascal 970cc and the insurance is more than double. why? the van insurance is quoted at 1400 pounds best. its for social use only, minimum mileage with no tools. its crazy. the polo was only 480 pounds.
I want to buy a moped in california?
I want to buy a moped under 50cc in california, and I am 15 with a drivers permit. Do i need a license to ride a moped under 50cc? Also, would i need insurance, or a license?""
For Lexus owners: Is it expensive to maintain a Lexus?
Don't bother with saying, If you are thinking about buying a Lexus, you should be able to maintain it. If not, shop for something else. I love the Lexus IS design, both outside and inside. And I'd love to get myself one of these beautiful cars. However, before I take one of these cars in my driveway, I want to make certain I am not making a mistake. These are the questions I want you to answer: 1. I heard the price for one tire is $300... Is this true? If no, how much does one of these tires cost? 2. I heard the price for oil change is $110. If this is not true, how much does it cost you for oil change? 3. I heard if either the front bumper or rear bumper needs replacement, the cost would be $5000. If this is not true, how much do you think a bumper replacement should cost? 4. Although the amount you pay for car insurance is based on your driving history, I heard that the quality of a car does play a major role. I am 27. So, in your opinion, how much do you think I will pay for car insurance for the 06 Lexus IS 250? My driving history has a clean record. I have yet to receive a ticket. 5. What other things I need to know about owning one of these cars? Please answer my question.""
Should I put my car insurance under my name or my dad's name?
I'm 22 years old male, clean driving record, my dad just give me his 97 Lexus ES300, and we own the car together, so both his and my name are on the car registration. The ...show more""
Insurance on small cars example punto ?
hey everyone iv just passed my theory test today and i want to buy a punto for my fist car i need advice on de price off tax and insurance like for example i would probably purchase any punto from 1997 -2001 and im 19 does anyone av any advice for me cause i don wanna be ripped off thanks for readin you guys xxxxxxxxxxx
Insurance in Virginia?
If i want to work as an insurance agent , is there any license requirements in Virginia ( Auto and home insurance)?""
I have an old pickup truck but can't find a price to get an insurance quote.?
I'm working on a 1972 International model 1100 Eight pickup truck and can't seem to find a price for it in todays market. I've looked on every automotive web-site I can think of, but they have every make except International. I'm trying to get an insurance quote over the internet and I really need this. I paid $400 for the truck itself and about the same for new parts. The guy who owned this truck before me said it was originally a one ton pickup, but the bed was switched out with a three ton. I know I have to add the price of the new parts, but all I want is an approximate base price. I'll take any advice, web-site, or anything else relevant to my needs.""
Why is State Farm online auto insurance quote differs from a State Farm's agent quote in Honolulu?
I went to a State Farm office today to get an auto insurance quote, and to my surprise, the quoted price is more than double the price that I got online at State Farm's website. ...show more""
How much is a Car for a 17yo?
How much is a car, insurance, lessons, test, tax etc.... Everything! For a 17 year old Guy. Just for a cheap second hand car ie. Peugeot 106 (second hand) But how much will it all come to? Thanks""
What does Obamacare do to make my insurance more affordable ?
My rates have increased by 35% since it was passed...
Best health insurance?
Im looking for a great health insurance. One that is reasonable with cost. My location is kansas if it matters.
What is the average deductable on car insurance?
What is the average deductable on car insurance?
Question regarding life insurance for children?
I have 6 children between the ages of 19 and 3..so i am interested in buying a life insurance that will cover college expenses, but i don't know which one to go for..does anyone know if gerber life insurance would be a good option?""
Can my daughter be on my mom's car insurance even if they don't live together?
Hi, my name is Kathy, I'm 19 year old female and want to buy a car but car insurance is just expensive. I want to be put on my grandmothers car insurance but we don't live in the same city. Do you think it would be possible for me to get on there! Thanks for your answers...""
Can I pay a AAA Auto Insurance bill online?
I'm in California but I don't know if that makes any diffrence.
Teen driver car insurance?
i'm 18 years old, got my license officially in march. I can't really drive my parents car around because im not on their insurance plan (and they worry) what is the cheapest car insurance plan i could get possibly to be insured with my parents? not sure what they have i think its state farm. does insurance depends on the car? if it matters my dad has a 1997 mini van,plymouth. and my mom has a 2005 jeep cherokee. about how much would it cost to be insured in one of their cars?""
Car insurance issues help wanted?
have a few issues I could really use some help with. The family car that I have been driving wasn't in my name but I was still covered on the insurance until one day I hit a mailbox with the passenger side mirror. The mailbox did not sustain any damage but the mirror somewhat did. I didn't call the police when it happened since the damage was extremely minimal. Anyways, then a couple weeks later a different family member (not the owner) had a little bit of a bigger accident when an animal suddenly appeared in front of the car forcing another accident. I have not had an accident in over 12 years but since I was mentioned after that second accident, I was also excluded from the insurance policy for that vehicle. The insurance cost is something like $158.00 per month but now they want the owner to add about $50 or $60 more per month EACH for the 2 people that were excluded because of the accidents.The car payment is about $415.00 per month and the insurance was $158.00 per month for just the owned which does not even drive the car at all but now they want an extra hundred per month for those 2 excluded drivers if they want to drive that car. Will this change if we switched insurance companies? And if I haven't had an accident in over 12 years, would it be possible to appeal that? Thanks in advance""
Car insurance!! :(?
Right...Passed my test.. got myself a lovely corsa sri 1.4 16v But i cant get it bloody insured with a good quote! Best ive found was quinn-direct with 2700 per year.. thats with pass plus? does anyone know some really good car insurance companies that will insure me for that kinda car? baring in mind im only 17 =[ Thankssss.. Any help greatly appreciated!
Is honesty really the best policy when insuring a car?
Is honesty really the best policy when insuring a car?
Cheapest & Best Auto/Motorcycle Insurance?
Can people please share what they think is the cheapest & best insurance? We currently have state farm & feel we're getting ripped off. We have 2 vehicles 93' Ford F150 (owned, no payments) 00' Chevy Cavalier (owned, no payments) 83' Honda Sabre(Motorcycle, owned, no payments) THANK YOU! Also, why do they ask for a SS# when you apply?Are there any companies who dont? I hope theyre not checking my credit score =( I'm trying to raise it!""
""What is the average insurance rate for a 19 year old male in Austin, Tx?""
PLEASE give me an actual number, not just how I could find out and what important information I left out. I have had no accidents and an attending school and will be buying an average car. Thanks in advance""
I want to go to school to learn about car insurance.?
How do I find courses or schooling that can teach me about car insurance
Good health insurance!?
I need an good health insurance located in Indiana? Any recommendations and experiences ?
Can I own a car without insurance in NY?
I recently moved to New York from Illinois due to family issue. I am overwhelmed by the heavy traffic and how difficult it is to drive in NY. Fortunately the public transportation is convenient enough so I don't bother driving my car at all and about to sell it. However, my insurance is about to expire in days and I won't be driving this car until someone buys it. The car is registered in Illinois. Can I still keep my car in NY without insurance? What do I have to do with my license plate? What procedures do I have to follow if I sells my car in NY? I've been working very hard try to earn enough money to put my family together, any pennies less to spend is very helpful to my current situtation. Please if anyone can answer it! Much appreciated.""
Affordable Health insurance Ideas?
I enrolled in health insurance that is costing me 92/mth BUT I'm really feeling it as I have many other expenses. Can anyone suggest any low price healthcare insurance for me. currently with Coventry. I need an insurance that has good therapist that make home visits. Thanks
Car insurance under mums/dads name.?
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Why do people drive without auto insurance?
Don't give me because it costs too much and they cant afford it. I think it's the price of having a car. You wouldn't get a car and say well tires are expensive, I can't afford them you just need them. The point of insurance is to be able to afford to fix any damages you may cause to another driver's car or person. If I wrecked someone's car I would certainly want the other person to be able to get their car fixed or replaced. And if there was injury I wouldn't want someone else saddled with huge medical bills because of a mistake I made. Is that just me?""
How much is New driver insurance for an 1988 chevy sprint?
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Riding a 125 motorbike on fully comp car insurance?
hi does anyone know, if you can ride a 125 motorbike with l pates and cbt on a fully comp car insurance, i know i can drive other vehciles on fully comp insurance but it turns into third party only , can it be done with my motorbike , thanks .""
Best first cars? cheap to insure?
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Will a 2000 Chevy Monte Carlo SS cost more for car insurance than a Monte Carlo LS because it's a sports car?
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Can a person with fully comp insurance drive an uninsured car?
Can a person with fully comp insurance drive an uninsured car? I have cancelled my insurance on my car as MOT is over. It's in a garage so don't matter. But if My father takes it to the MOT place can he drive it with his fully comp insurance he has on his car?
Car accident with no insurance?
I got into a car accident today and totaled my car. the other vehicle just had bumper damage. come to find out my insurance tried to take my payment out my account but were unsuccesfull so they canceled it a month ago. whats gonna happen since i am at fault and no insurance
How much would car insurance be for a 19 year old teen with plenty of tickets?
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VW Golf third-party insurance for a new driver?
Looking at getting a car, just passed my test and considering a VW Golf Mk4 (1.4 - 1.6l as a max) I'm not 17, I'm 20 - Would this go in my favour? How much can I expect to be paying, is it manageable?""
How much would car insurance cost for a 17 year old boy for a Ford Focus RS 2003?
I am the 'boy racer' type of a boy. I have the cash to buy a ford focus rs on an 03 registration plate. i was wondering how much car insurance would cost for it? i wish to learn to drive in the car. Ford Focus RS is obviously a very fast car having been used for WRC. It is my favourite car, i can afford it but it would be a massive let down if i couldnt afford insurance on it? please help. any answers are greatly appreciated. thanks""
What value does insurance companies go by to determine if car is totaled or not?
I have 2001 honda civic ex with 140,600 miles on it. I recently wrecked it and the body work, paint, and labor is coming up to $3900. There is some work under the hood that needs to be done, but I was told to get a seperate estimate for that and contact the insurance company. How much does the repairs have to amount to before the car is considered totaled???""
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Ep. 7 Long Distance Relationships
polyAM Radio Episode Seven-Long Distance Relationships
[Begin Transcript]
[Sophie]: Hello everybody and welcome to polyam radio the best show on the internet about polyamory that weird relationship thing you do with lots of other people
["Crazy little thing called love" by Queen plays]
[Sophie]: hello everybody and welcome to polyam radio my name is Sophie Last-name-redacted
[Credence]: and I'm Credence You-humans-could-not-pronounce-it
[Sophie]: I use she her pronouns and Credence uses they them and he him, this episode is going to be about long distance relationships and specifically about long distance plyamory but first you may or may not have noticed I have a new guest host so Credence tell everybody a little bit about yourself
[Credence]: well hi, thanks for having me Sophie um my name is Credence umm I'm twenty four years old I studied writing and gender in college umm I don't have that many interesting things to say about myself
[Sophie]: that's fair, how long have you been doing polyamory
[Credence]: I've been into polyamory since ooh, it's been about five years for me I've been in polyamory about five years
[Sophie]: umm are you comfortable talking about how you got into it or is that a bad memory
[Credence]: oh it's not a bad memory at all umm I actually am still with my partner who introduced me to polyamory she at the time was dating another person and when we got together she was like this is who I am this is what I do and I wanna give you as much information about it as possible but um it was a really egalitarian approach to relationships and I was really intereted in that because she was a wonderful person and I really liked her other partner and it was just kind of a soft introdution and umm it took me a while to start dating other people but that that's it's own story cuz I'm kind of a playbook of what not to do sometimes with polyamory [laughs] uh but right now I'm in , uh, I have three wonderful girlfriends who are amazing, oh god I want you to edit so much of this out it's so bad
[Sophie]: no it's wonderful
[Credence]: [laughs]
[Sophie]: I'm lucky enough to be one of those wonderful girlfriends
[Credence]: yes yes you are
[Sophie]: and then we share another one  uhh of those wonderful girlfriends and the other one I haven't quite sunk my claws into yet
[Credence]: yeah you once you meet uhh once you meet her I'm sure that, it'll be uhh a ripple effect until you two start dating
[Sophie]: yeah probably that's generally how my life works
[Credence]: gotta collect em all
[Sophie]: yeah yeah
[Credence]: catch em all gotta catch em all
[Sophie]: it's actually funny you mention that because I'm playing pokemon ultra moon right now and I'm very pokemon saturated ya know we talked about polysaturation in a previous episode and feeling like you have too many partner uhh and I actually wish that I had bought the game earlier instead of playing it earlier cuz this would have been a really good intro for the polysaturation episode but I've just got so many pokemon in there right now that I can't train any of them up to the level that I kind of want to and I'm still very early in the game so I'm just catching new pokemon all the time so it's just, I have this wonderful paralell I was like this is just like polysaturation I'm just so pokemon saturated and then I turned off the game and stopped playing which isn't really a solution for your polysaturation
[Credence]: no no it's not
[Sophie]: yeah
[Credence]: it's not
[Sophie]: yeah but I can put my little electronic creatures on a shelf until I'm ready to deal with them again
[Credence]: unless they're unless they're what are those things called the tomoi
[Sophie]: tomigotchis
[Credence]: they'll just run away
[Sophie]: will they really, I never had one
[Credence]: they're weird, I have a lot of abandonment issues thanks to tomigotchi
[Sophie]: yeah I uh maybe, that could be a good sponsor for the show maybe we could reach out to them
[Credence]: do they still exist
[Sophie]: uhh I'm sure in some form ya know
[Credence]: well uhh unfortunately you have already made an episode about polysaturation and we shouldn't over saturate your listeners with the conversation
[Sophie]: that's fair
[Credence]: so today we're going to be talking about as you said long distance relationships and specifically how polyamory works in conjuntion with long distance relationships so what constitutes a long distance like how far is far Sophie
[Sophie]: uhh well umm boy let me get out a ruler here hold on
[Credence]: oh yeah
[Sophie]: yeah well I with I had a good goof for this cuz I was planning on being the one that asked that question and then forcing you to make a good goof about it but I didn't have anything prepared but basically
[Credence]: oh well here I don't have anything but I can I can vamp
[Sophie]: oh okay
[Credence]: uh wha- [unintelligable] you give it a shot
[Sophie]: I'll get it
[Credence]: you try me
[Sophie]: so Credence what constitutes a long distance relationship ya know how far is far away
[Credence]: well uhh for me and my abandonment issues far away is pretty much over three feet
[Sophie]: [laughs] okay that's actually very good
[Credence]: so uhh no okay uhh that that was a goof umm in reality the distance isn't really so much like it ya know the distance isn't the part where it gets complicated or like there isn't like you must be there isn't a you must be this far away to consider yourself in a long distance relationship there is no like measure or maker for that but it's basically it it's long distance constitutes anything that makes seeing each other difficult
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely
[Credence]: or like a special occasion not something you can do very often now that doesn't mean that ya know you have to live super far away for that to be constituted uhh for it to be considered a long distance relationship but it also means that if you live in the same town and you just choose to not see each other that much that's not a long distance relationship it's because the distance creates an obstacle that has to be worked around
[Sophie]: right absolutely well and I think that ya know re- and in realtiy ya know what ya know when we talk about this a lot of it depends on what kind of transportation you have access to or whatever because ya know lets talk about a partner that maybe lives like an hour away well if you're in an area that's like you have a car or there's lots of high speed trains you might not consider that long distance but if it's a situation where you don't have your own transportation and there's not really a public way of getting there and to get down there you have to like take the bus and it goes around this long winding three hour route all of the sudden that becomes enough of an ordeal that you might consider that long distance uhh it's really kind of in the eye of the beholder basically as you said I think ya know whenever there's a barrier to the amount of time you can spend together that's dictated by the distance between you and your partner that's kind of when we start to call it a long distance relationship and uh in addition what that ends up meaning a lot of times is that most of the communication in the relationship and interaction happens through a medium such as the internet or letter writing uhh obviously internet more commonly
[Credence]: there's also these amazing things called phones
[Sophie]: yeah or over the phone
[Credence]: I know that my social anxiety would lead you to believe that they don't exist
[Sophie]: [laughs] I guess I'm so umm even texting to me is the internet even though it, it's technically not it's just instant messaging is so like internet fixed to me but absolutely yeah technically that's not the internet or or phone calls too
[Credence]: yeah I was, I was making a joke about talking on the phone because us mellenials are incapable of doing that
[Sophie]: yeah
[Credence]: but honestly though, social anxiety
[Sophie]: yeah umm but anyways ya know most of your interaction is gonna occur through one of those type of mediums and not ya know in person and that's by neccecity and not by choice it's not that ya know seeing your partner all that often isn't important to you or  that umm ya know you're choosing not to see them all that often ya know I also wanna mention part of the reason we're, ya know, it's like why are we  talking about long distance relationships uhh aside from the fact that they have their own unique situations and problems that are often ya know created [unintelligable] of existing they often have their legitimacy challenged by the rest of socitey and many people feel that it's impossible to have a healthy productive meaningful long distance relationship now they're wrong
[Credence]: yes, they're dead wrong
[Sophie]: ya know you can be wrong plenty of people are wrong about everthing there's people that ya know don't like pickles and there's people that uh do like ranch and there's people that
[Credence]: oh come on
[Sophie]: [laughs]
[Credence]: that was low
[Sophie]: yeah that was low I'm sorry hunny, Umm but umm ya know we just wanna that that is something that some people think, they are wrong and if you think that, that just means that you really need to listen to the rest of this episode
[Credence]: hell yeah we'll convince you
[Sophie]: so, oh--go first sorry
[Credence]: and along with long distance relationship often having their ligitimacy challenged you have the added component of being polyam long distance relationship and like the legitimacy of that being challanged as well as very unique challeneges to communication and umm partner quality time that that are added components to specifically being in a long distance polyamory
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely yeah I think that that's a good point uh absolutely so when we're talking about long distance relationships uhh what goes into ya know a lot of people I think have never had a long distance relationship or are maybe in a long distance relationship for the first time so ya know how what goes into starting a long distance relationship how do they typically start cuz it doesn't exactly follow our social script ya know
[Credence]: yeah it's uh it's always a buckwild ride let me tell ya umm I have had several long distance relationships and uhh it's it's about as awkward for me asking somebody out in person as it is for me to ask somebody out umm online even if it wasn't for a specific date just even just being like hey I like you check yes or no if you like me
[Sophie]: yea there's uh I think that ya know a lot of times on this show we talk about  having a lack of a social script and having to ya know make your own uhh based off of that and [laughs] this is definately something long distance relationships in general aside from long distance polyamory this is something where you definately have to uhh kind of make your own umm how do you want to say uhh kind of script for because ya know typically we associate relationships and especially early relationships with dating and going on dates so when you're not able to just go on a date with someone or whatever that's a significant barier to a lot of times even just feeling like your relationship is real and legitimate and it of course is but sometimes that can lead us to feeling like they're not legitimate
[Credence]: yeah yeah in my experience uhh the kind of like script that often comes out of like like looking back at the progression of how I went from like talking to this online friend to dating them is usually like ya know pretty standard as far as like what you would expect in an in person encounter of like flirtatious conversation getting to know someone uhh but  then  as you like as you talk more you get to know this person more uhh like the conversation tends to shift more towards like more of the flirtation
[Sophie]: no I think that's really good ya know one of the things you said early on and I don't know if you even realize you said it but I thought it was very good talking to a friend and ending up dating them and whatnot uhh that's not always how it happens in person it would be ideal and everything but a lot of times pepole will, ya know they don't wanna date their friends or whatever so they'll just go out and try to find someone that they're physically attracted to or whatever
[Credence]: right
[Sophie]: and ask them out, and online interactions I don't know if that's ever happened to anyone that is that is so I guess different that what I always hear about basically you almost always end up dating a friend, ya know someone you like and usually a close friend uhh so in my opinion I guess I think that's something that long distance relationships do better uhh than ya know like uhh ya know your traditional relationships
[Credence]: yeah yeah I mean like in I mean you can't tell me though you haven't like thirst followed someone on twitter or something right
[Sophie]: I only have a my only twitter is the polyamradio twitter so I've never actually done that
[Credence]: you know what I mean though right
[Sophie]: yeah for sure
[Credence]: like physical attraction can totally be a component within long distance even if you meet somebody online like I mean not everybody catphishing us I don't know I have trust issues so now I"m gonna be thinkin about that
[Sophie]: [Credence]: [laugh]
[Credence]: but like ya know like there can totally be like a physical attraction component if like you you're following somebodies blog and its like just like you casually like like their content and then go oh wow their really cute
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely but even then if you're gonna start dating them normally you become friends with them first at least in my experience
[Credence]: yeah it's definately like you strike up a conversation not like hey you're hot like don't do that like you aren't going to get anywhere with somebody if that's how you're treating them like you can have the physical attraction component but that's not the motivating factor in getting in getting to know somebody and interacting with them in long distance like the motivating factor is mostly getting to know them and like talking about them and yourself umm at least from my experience ya know I know plenty of people who kind of do online dating in a sexual way and like that's super cool but for me I'm mostly looking for partnerships built off of like solid friendships
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely umm so what goes into we talked about starting a long distance relationship ya know what goes into-
[Credence]: yeah the start is just start talking to somebody, honestly just like get to know them like it it sounds so like basic and kind of silly but just like just start talking and see where these conversations lead and like I said it's always going to come back to flirting if you guys have chemistry cuz like it just kinda happens naturally
[Sophie]: and sometimes even if you don't have chemistry and then it's real bad
[Credence]: yeah yeah that's true [laughs] then you make really bad puns and try to win women over with limeriks like me
[Sophie]: yikes that's beautiful I umm
[Credence]: it worked on you
[Sophie]: it did yeah I'm still expecting a sonnet from you at some point
[Credence]: oh that's right I owe you sonnet
[Sophie]: I uhh so ya know we talked about uhh starting a long distance relationship, what goes into maintaining a long distance relationship ya know say that you  ya know you someone was listening to this espisode and paused it a few seconds ago and they're like a month into it and they're like this is going great but I have no idea how to maintain this now uhh what's some of the basic maintinence that these relationships require
[Credence]: the biggest thing is talking to each other and I know that's scary sometimes cause communication can be scary in generall but yeah you gotta talk to each other that's kind of the big basic thing
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely I think ya know in long distance relationship ya know we're gonna talk later about some of the things that can go wrong but one of the things we're gonna bring up is ghosting which is kinda disappearing on someone
[Credence]: mhmm
[Sophie]: either deliberatley or accidentally ya know uhh if you get really busy and you realize oh shit I haven't talked to this person in a week, or longer, ya know that's not ideal
[Credence]: that's that's that is less than ideal
[Sophie]: yeah
[Credence]: that is beyond less than ideal
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely
[Credence]: you gotta keep the line of communication open even if it's just being like hey been busy we need to catch up soon and then planning time to do that
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely and I was also saying ya know finding things to do together, ya know I've never done this although I've been meaning too and I tried to do it once uhh very slyly and was kind of shot down but I was talking to one of my partners and they were they were saying ohh I'm gonna watch a movie but I don't know what movie to watch and I had heard of people kind of watching movies together over long distance and like texting each other throughout and I thought it was really cute and one of my partner was like I'm looking for a movie to watch  and I was like oh well I'm ya know do you have the birdcage and they were like yeah and I was like I'm gonna watch the birdgage so if you want we would watch it together adn they were like nah I'm not really in the mood for that and I was like awwww and umm ya know
[Credence]: no that's like actually a really great example of something you can do and umm ya know whether you like time it up so that like lets say you got them on the phone and you both hit play at the same time and youy can talk to each other through the movie I only recomend doing that with a movie you've already seen otherwise it's obnoxious, I've done that before, there's also a website called rabbit umm is r a b b dot i t, umm and it lets you set up like group chats umm and or even just like one on one chats and you can play movies in the umm online application like together like one person controls it so it starts at the same time for both of you and you get a chat window where you can type where you can uhh like type uhh messages and stuff yeah where you can message each other or um you can I think you can actually do uhh like a skype kinda call with it too but uhh I haven't tried that componenet but there's lots of websites like that that exist out there that are designed for these kinds of things like umm ya know there's ways that you can play games together online
[Sophie]: I was about to mention gaming yeah if you're a gamer, like I"m not as much a gamer I wouldn't know how to set this stuff up but something that I would really like to do sometime I think would be a lot of fun is like to play mario cart with ya know like my long distance partners or something like that like I think that that could be a lot of fun and I have no idea how to set that up I guess so tweet at me I guess if you know how to do that
[Credence]: yeah yeah if you folks have like good examples of stuff you can do with your partner in a long distance relationship like that those kind of resources are amazing and I'll probably be sending some links over to Sophie to put in to the umm cat like into the caption for this
[Sophie]: yeah I can put it in the episode descriptiong
[Credence]: yeah we'll put this I'll send Sophie some links to put in umm the episode discription and maybe even tweet umm some of em over umm at uhh polyam underscore radio on twitter
[Sophie]: yeah our our twitter and our uhh our email and everything if you are looking to contact us all our information is on your cover art if you're listening to this so uhh it should be easy to get a hold of us if you're looking to
[Credence]: yeah I mean theres theres so many fun things you can do and like also just like trying to find you're own thing not like just being like well the internet says that we can really ya know we can watch movies together I guess but I don't really like movies it's like well okay then if you don't feel like watching a movie like go on a walk while you're on the phone
[Sophie]: yeah or even if you're wanting to like read the same book as someone else and like talk about it or something uhh ya know it can be I mean there are lots of things you can do I think that the biggest thing is that you have to find a way to ensure that quality time is had and shared uhh and
[Credence]: exactly
[Sophie]: yea know I think that there are lots of different ways to do that but that's the underlying thread here
[Credence]: agreed
[Sophie]: so umm ya know when we get back we're gonna talk about uh some good things and some bad things about long distance relationships but first we gotta make some money so lets go do that
[Credence]: lets go
["can't buy me love" by the Beatles plays]
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[Sophie]: and it's x i strength like like you would write eleven in roman numerals and I did ask and they said it was just xi strength umm not eleven strength umm but I just wanna make sure
[Credence]: or zi
[Sophie]: yeah or zi strength maybe ooh whoups, umm well hopefully I haven't been saying that wrong this whole time but even if I have umm it's a great webcomic absolutely impecabley illustrated uhh and it looks to be a lot of fun and they have like we said there's over fourty chapters it's a huge backlog folks and ya know I know that one of the biggest uhh things that we often hear about especially as a new podcast and whatnot is that we don't have a very big backlock yet so  ya know if you're listening to this and uhh that's a complaint of yours that's not a complaint you'll have over there so you should go check it out
[Credence]: yeah those fourty chapters can get you a lot of good quality time with a long distance partner
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely yeah that would be another good thing and so I just wanna mention one more time ya know we are offering real life advertizing slots on this show so if you have a podcast or a book or a webcomic or an online esty shop or ya know anything else that you would like to have our listener base hear about we're running a special offer right now through february twenty eight twenty seventeen you can get an ad on the show for just five dollars and you can have your busines imortalized ya know as the show grows in popularity people are still gonna be coming back and listening to these episodes and they'll hear about your business and so that's a great way to get in on the ground floor of this cause every week we get tons more listeners and tons more downloads uhh so it it gotta strike while the irons hot a little bit and it helps us make ya knowmore great content and whatnot and then if you get to me before the end of January you'll recieve a special buy one get one offer where it's basically five dollars for a spot on two episodes of the show so don't wait as we grow the rates will undoubtably go up and now is the perfect time to get in on it
[Credence]: I should uhh do just want to mention it's february twenty eights twenty eighteen correct
[Sophie]: yes twenty eighteen correct
[Credence]: okay yep I just wanted to make sure I didn't ya know bleed into another timeline cuz like
[Sophie]: oh god I hope we did
[Credence]: uhh I don't know twenty seventeen can go die
[Sophie]: yeah I guess yeah so continuing on with our program now ya know what are some of the reasons that long distance relationships can commonly end ya know what are some common ya know fatal problems that they have
[Credence]: well uhh we kind of alluded to this before but uh lack of communication and lack of quality time are really the two biggest  the two biggest things that contribute to the end of a long distance relationship so umm when we say lack of quality time we don't just mean like of we don't get to physically see each other very often it's ya know not doing things like watching a movie together ya know or making sure you have a skype date umm yeah quality time can mean a lot of different things so umm not setting aside the time for that is a huge factor and then of course lack of communication
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely I think that when you look as communication without that ya know that's the foundation of a relationship of any kind so a lot of times we sound like broken records on here when we talk about a lack of communication being a downfall but without that you really got nothing and then with quality time even if you got good communication and you got a good foundation if communication is the foundation quality time is like ya know what you build on top of that uhh ya know so ya know you can have the best foundations in the world but if you're not gonna build anything on it then you're not gonna have anything cool to play with
[Credence]: and one thing about lack of communication is that that doesn't just mean lack of communication between you and your long distance partner but also lack of communication with your other partners and their er lack of communication with them and their other partners because if you're not communicating well with uhh ya know communicating your needs for like quality time with your long distance partner to your other partners then that gets kind of can get pushed to the wayside when somebody is physically with you they're forefront in your mind so if you're not communicating I need to set aside this time for my long distance partner it can kind of just fall of to the wayside
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely and speaking of falling of to the wayside we alluded to this earlier but ghosting is a problem
[Credence]: oh yes
[Sophie]: ya know ghosting typically when we normally talk about it it's something that other people are deliberatley doing so they'll disappear on you ghosting is when you kind of disappear without a trace like a ghost and, oh go for it
[Credence]: ghosting is a lot more common with long distance relationships simply by the fact that you're communicating mostly through the internet or the phone and it can be easy to lose track of communicating in those avenues because of legitimate reasons and because of purposeful ignoreing of those of those modes of communication
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely and I do just wanna say ya know ghosting is a form of abuse, if you want to end a long distance relationship ya know nut up and end the relationship
[Credence]: yeah
[Sophie]: don't just ghost, uh abandoning people can be really triggering and if as much as you are worried about hurting them ya know uh maybe you're gonna hurt them worse by ghosting and really you're not protecting them no matter what you tell yourself, you're protecting yourself   and it's not okay to put your needs and anxieties that much farther in front of everyone elses
[Credence]: I mean obviously if you are in a situation where you are being abused
[Sophie]: yes
[Credence]: or you are feeling unsafe for any like reason with a partner even if its a long distance partner becauase yes abuse can happen in long distance relationships and it takes on different forms umm but if you are needing to exit that relationship for your saftey then obviously do it but if you are just wanting to end a relationship and don't know how that's not the responsible thing to do and it's not healthy for you or ya know your ex partner like
[Sophie]: that's a good caveat yeah obviously if your in a abuse situation and you need to make a quick getaway or a quick exit, that's different uhh
[Credence]: and you never need to justify to an abuser why you're leaving
[Sophie]: and as a matter of fact a lot of times it's better and safer if you don't
[Credence]: exactly so umm but when we talk about ghosting we are talking about in a situation where there isn't an abusive element and basically it's just you're right ghosting the act of ghosting is abusing or it's very damaging and it's especially damaging with like a long distance relationship because you have this fear of never knowing what happened to this person umm ya know like never knowing if I mean did like did they did something horrible happen to them like that's terrifying and umm and I think it can take on different forms uhh ghosting can like uhh I've had an experience where I I was I recieved a very long winded message um from a partner who I had a long distance relationship with and it was a long winded explanation of why we had to break up that asssumed a lot of my feelings that didn't actually talk about any of the problems that we were having or brought up problems we were having that were never discussed and then  just justified that's why we have to break up right now and I was in shock and I messaged back just simply okay and I never heard from this person again and so like having a one sided conversation and then never talking to the person again I don't know if that counts as ghosting but the effect is similar
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely it's still damaging and I think that that's good to when we're talking about needing to exit a relationship or something like that poise is hard to have but you should try to have it and it's worth having in these situations ya know because the more poise you handle this with probably the less damaging it's going to be for your ex basically
[Credence]: yeah and for yourself because sometimes we can say things in the heat of a moment umm make declarative statements about how we're feeling in a moment and it's not how we feel long term it's just  that we're having a crisis moment and if you act on those kind of impulses without having a conversation about why you're feeling that way you can end up saying and doing things that you regret simply because well I never actually stated what I really felt or we didn't actually talk about how the relationship was going from that person's perspective ya know it does a disservice to both you and your ex because there's no resolution in that
[Sophie]: right yeah absolutely so  uhh ya know lets say you have a long distance relationship and something bad happens ya know emergencies sometimes happend sometimes a crisis happens uhh ya know when catastrophe strikes and your partners are far away or partner is far away there are some things you can do to both before hand and during to umm make the situation as easy as possible on everone and I just wanna talk about those quick we are going to have an episode eventually on emergencies and crisis and ya know stuff like that uhh where we will talk about all of this at much greater length so I don't want to make it sound like this is all we're gonna be saying about it but I wanna just ya know for long distance if someone's listening to this episode ya know there are some contingencies that maybe you should handle before these things comes up
[Credence]: definately having a game plan
[Sophie]: yeah
[Credence]: is everything
[Sophie]: yeah have a game plan the first and most important thing I think is to have a designated go between slash contact person
[Credence]: yeah
[Sophie]: a lot of times or even a couple and everybody knows their role a lot of times this is best if this person lives near you and is gonna be your emergency contact for other things let say you have a partner or a friend who is in your phone and in your work stuff as your emergency contact telling them hey there's this important person in my life and if you're not out as polyamorous you don't even have to tell them it's a partner you can just say I have this really important friend who's long distance that if I end up in the hospital for some reason or if I end up ya know horribly sick or ya know in some sort of trouble umm can you contact them on my behalf and let them know what's going on and let them know I'm fine and
[Credence]: keep them in the  loop
[Sophie]: yeah and contiuously give them updates umm a lot of times when you have a uhh a situation like this people feel pressured to pick the person they're closest to to fulfill this role as the go between that is not neccecarily oh I'm sorry uh just kicking Credence here
[Credence]: oh yep
[Sophie]: a lot of times ya know maybe the single the party you've been with longest or your best friend or your parent or whoever you're gonna have fulfill this role just because they are the person   that you are maybe the closest with doesn't make them the best person for this you're gonna wanna pick a very cool headed person, someone who follows directions very well, someone who's good in a crisis umm ya know there was a partner who ended up in the hospital recently of mine and who had  a partner that they had been with for years and years and years and this partner and I had not been together that long and I was their emergency contact not because they liked me better, not because their other partner coudln't be trusted not because of anything like that but because I follow instructions very well I follow people's wishes very well, I"m the power of attorney for a couple different people actually because they know I'll enact their wishes
[Credence]: you've got the power
[Sophie]: yeah and ya know people know I'm good in a crisis when I get a call it's ya know so and so's doing really poorly or whatever, before I break down and cry I make the phone calls I need to make and then I break down and cry, that's just something about me, doesn't make me better than anybody else doesn't make me worse than anyone else it's just how I handle trauma and crisis cause I had to do it a lot uhh so ya know not saying ya know go pick someone like me but I think that someone who is kind of very level headed good in an emergency stuff like that is a good person to pick
[Credence]: yeah I the only thing I would ad to that is just that make sure that you're picking somebody who you know can, even if you don't know how to communicate what you're like what's going on very well right now pick somebody who understands you very well in that they can communicate what you're trying to communicate so I know for myself I can be in a situation where I'm at a loss for words and so trying to describe how I'm feeling can be very difficult and so relaying that message to somebody who then relays it to other people can be kind of difficult so somebody who kind of gets your mode of communication even when you're not doing well somebody who can understand what you're intended meaning is umm and like just having somebody who can kind of help interpret for you right now because when you're in a crisis it can be very difficult to actuall state how you're feeling and what's going on
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely well and you know sometimes when you're in a crisis you feel like you've just gotta [bangs surface twice] [sings] get away I've got to, welcome to polyfolly a podcast within a podcast where we talk about the crucial and common mistakes that people make and that are the downfalls of their polyamorous relationships cue music ["tainted love" plays] okay so uhh what's our polyfolly today
[Credence]: our polyfolly today Sophie is the failure to bring up problems as soon as they arise so they don't fester
[Sophie]: that's a good one
[Credence]: in a long distance relationship
[Sophie]: so why is that ya know why is that the polyfolly as opposed to anything else
[Credence]: I think the reason we honed in on this is on is because uhh as we said communication is the basis for a good long distance relationship and if that foundation has ya know dry rot in it from the start you're not gonna be able to build shit on top of that
[Sophie]: yeah absolutely I think that that's a good analogy uhh ya know and it's I think it part I think  in long distance relationship polyamorous or no it's very easy to kind of avoid your problems  ya know because ya know a lot of times you're communicating more sparesly and you're not  talking as often so things can problems can be out of sight out of mind pretty easity
 [Credence]: yep yep it can be really easy to compartimentalize
 [Sophie]: yeah
 [Credence]: when you're in a long distance relationship so if things are not going great in fact  if things are breaking bad you can actually you can hide that from your partner who's long distance  and and that's not healthy it can create so many future problems not just for your relationship but  for yourself and for your other relationships if ya know this this person who's important in your life  only has one view of you, one view of what's going on in your life and if you're and if you're  altering that view to make it look more perfect than it is it's uh, it's just it's bad news
 [Sophie]: yeah absolutely so ya know we've gotten pretty heavy here ya know it's starting to sound like  long distance relationships are really bad but I don't think that's the case, what are some of the  benifits of long distance relationships
 [Credence]: well I'm glad you asked Sophie because I think that most people tend to focus on how challenging long  distance relationships can be and they forget how they have this unique quality to them that can  really make them incredibly special and meaningful relationships umm for me uhh one of the biggest  benifits of having a long distance relationship is being able to take the day to day stuff umm  and like get to see it from a different content by stepping out of the situation and telling  you're partner who hasn't seen you all day ya know or heard about your work stories a thousand times   they can hear what's going on in your life and give you a new perspective and just telling somebody   who'd not immidiately involved like physically there gives you the ability to kind of take a step back   from the situation and and and see it in a new light that to me I think is such a a genuinely helpful   quality of a long distance relationship
  [Sophie]: yeah it can really help you celebrate the accomplishments that you make throughout the day
  [Credence]: oh yeah and like that too like celebrating your accomplishments becomes ya know just like it's   interesting I think that we have a tendency especially as ya know speaking for myself as a queer,   autistic, mentally ill, disabled person that the things that I do on a daily basis that other people   might see as like well yeah of course you did that that's what you have to do to be an adult umm   those can be very difficult for me for whatever reason and it can be hard to celebrate your own accomplishments   whether they're big or small and having somebody who you hav- who asks you earnestly about your day   that pers- like who hasn't seen you all day so doesn't know ya know have the baggage of like well you've   been grumpy all so your accomplishments are just been, are dumb because they wern't that   big of a deal because you were mostly just a jerk today
  [Sophie]: yeah well and I think ya know well we talked about a lot of times ya know I'm a rather chubby individual now   but I used to be very into fitness and weighlifting and I was actually a boxer once upon a time   umm  and
  [Credence]: I just wanna start singing the simon and garfunkel song, you said that earlier today and all I can   think of is [sings] la la li, la la la la la li la la li (chorus from "the boxer" by Simon and Garfunkel)   okay I'm done
  [Sophie]: [laughs] umm but ya know there's something in exercises called like isolation exercises where you   take like one muscle and you only exercise that muscle and a lot of times it hurts uhh and it's a pain   in the ass and you can't lift that much weight because the muscle's working almost entirely by itself   but it makes that muscle very strong and uhh a lot of the stuff in polyamory ya know it's like stress   testing these things in a way but it can make you like a better communitator and a better partner and   stuff like that and I think long distance it isolates your communication skills and really as you   said before it hones in on em and ya know it forces you to be a better communicator it makes you   a better communicater and that transfers into your other relationships and I think that that's a   very valuble skill
  [Credence]: I agree yeah being able to work on your communication skills and learn how to communicate intentionally
  [Sophie]: yeah
  [Credence]: and like not just how was your day good how was yours it was alright cool like that like   using your time that you have with someone to communicate effectively to communicate intentionally   like what is important for you to communicate to this person and what is the timeline of that and   making you think through those things and appriciate just how much effort you need to to have   a good conversation with somebody and like ya know not everybody can be up for that all the time   I'm not saying that every conversation you need to have with your long distance partner needs to be   about deep dark conflicting issues or something like that but it's ya know learning to communicate   intentionally helps you develop when you need to communicate those ya know complex things and when   you need to just have fun in your communication with them
  [Sophie]: yeah absolutely well and ya know it you get this space to explore yourself and you can focus on   what you really wanna get out of a relationship without it just being well this person is here and   I like them a lot and I want them to be happy ya know it's all about intentionality and I think we've   hit that nail on the head here
  [Credence]: mhmm I'll drive that horse home
  [Sophie]: yeah yeah absolutely so ya know what are some of the happiest experiences and happiest memories   and your favorite things about long distance relationships cause I know what mine is but what are yours
  [Credence]: well for me it's ya know besides like that development of that intentionality of communicating   and intentionality of time spent together it's really savoring that so like not just being intentional   about it but being mindful of the moment living in the moment that you get to have with your long distance   partner and just savoring it justletting yourself enjoy it and keeping in mind that yeah this doesn't   happen very often which is sad but it counts for it is sustaining becoming sustained off of it   knowing that like I'm going to get to have more moments like this and these moments are everything   that keeps this relationship going and is doing a lot of good for me in my life and that doesn't mean   just savoring your umm your like irl or in real life time together that can just be savoring the time   that you get to be on the phone the time you get to do a skype call and see your partner's fave or hell   it can be just even savoring the moments where you get to exchange memes with each other on your lunch break   yeah I guess for me it's my favorite thing about long distance is just been learning to savor those   moments and and help me realize that my relationship can be sustained on those moments and that   trickles into my other relationships too it's like it helps me learn that I might not always get to   be around this partner whom I'm lived with for years but that doesn't mean that our relationship is   gonna fade away cauase I have this knowledge and this sense of intentionality to keep it going
  [Sophie]: yeah absolutely I think that my uhh one of the things that I really cherished about one of my long   distance relationships ya know I mentioned earlier in this episode that somewhat recently there was   a long distance partner of mine who eneded up in the hospital and those hospital phone calls were really   special to me and I really cherished them ya know partly because there was an emergency and there was   a crisis and I was scared ya know cause I love them a lot and it was hard for everybody but getting   to hear their voice was incredile and it helped so much I think for both of us umm and uh ya know it really   umm it broke up our [laughs] it broke up our day to day and it broke up the pattern that we had been   communitating in and as we mentioned before it caused us to communicate very intentionally and uhh   ya know that was ya know yeah it was a bad situation but that was something really special that came   out of it in my mind and I wouldn't trade those phone calls for anything in the world
  [Credence]: yeah it sounds like you were able it sounds like you were able to break out of that compartimentalizing   of like the relationship being framed in this one kind of style of communicating where maybe you weren't   communicating very effectively and maybe it took a crisis to do it you folks were able to find a way to   reach that kind of communicating  with ya know mindful intention to it and I think thats amazing
  [Sophie]: yeah yeah it's ya know whenever I go through something really hard in my life I have the attidude   of I will not get through this without gaining something from it because I'm going to get through it   one way or another but I refuse to have this just be a terrible situation that I didn't learn anything   or gain anything from like come hell or highwater I'm learning something from this or I'm getting something   out of it because the alternative sucks even more which is to say that this happened for no reason whatsoever   so ya know before we wrap up here a few points of order I always mention we have a twitter a facebook   and we have a patreon which is all really cool and the links are on your cover art please consider   susporting us on patreon we have some really cool rewards starting at one dollar a month you'll   get a shoutout on the show which uhh ya know you get at the upper levels you get every other level too   so I wanna say thank you to Merca Alexa McCool and Ari Stilman thank you both we have Jade we have   Vlad and we have Miles Kataro uhh so thank you all so much uhh you're absolutely wonderful and uhh   for Jade and for Merca and Ari they are at the five dollar leve which means that they have access    to a bonus episode that we uploaded [Credence]: ohooooo [Sophie]: basically how I wanted, I'm uncomfortable with putting good advice behind a paywall for the bonus episodes so what we're doing is we're doing kind of profiles and deep dives into specific people who are good at polyamory and we're talking about the things that make them particulary sucessfull at polyamory the experiences they've had good and bad advice they want to give the world stuff like that uhh so if you need advice on a specific topic it won't be behind a paywall because I'm uncomfortable with that but it is really good and interesting stuff and I hope you learn more about thep eople who are on the show so if you're at a five dollar level that'll get you that and if anyone wants to do the ten dollar level that's only five dollars and episode and you'll get all the episodes a week early on there and as soon as someone does that I will start uploading the episodes a week early ya know all of you we really appriciate your continued support I know this is a small chanell and we're just starting out but even a dollar a month from a few of you helps us offset the cost of some new equipment we're looking to investing into to make our sound quality even better and would really help us just make the podcast the absolute best it can be and so if you enjoy the podcast please this week share it with at least one friend or partner just one person you can even say hey I'm just gonna download this on your phone quick and then you got it, we don't have the money to pay for advertizing so if this is going to work and take off it's going to be all on ya'll and I can't tell you how amazing it feels to know that ya know we're just starting out we've only been doing this a couple months and we already have all these amazing fans who are even tuning in even day of that the downloads drop and everything umm ya know and and listening to what we have to say and that's a really cool feeling I hope this is helpful to yall and please if you're interested if you're on twitter and facebook and social media go follow and like us there because there's a lot of cool updates and some content and me shitposting every now and then that you're missing out on if you're not on there
[Credence]: before you go Sophie I have to tell you, I really like your metamors
[Sophie]: [laughs]
[Credence]: you know why
[Sophie]: why
[Credence]: cause I never meet a-mor I didn't like
[Sophie]: [Credence]: [laughs]
[Sophie]: that was bad
[Credence]: this is why she's dating me
[Sophie]: yeah pretty much so now that we got that out of the way thanks for listeing and for your continued support and as always remember
[Sophie]: [Credence]: dont' date your best friend's dad and don't date your dad's best friend
[Sophie]: see you next time folks
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i had a nice weekend, amazingly enough. in some ways i feel we both made an effort but at the same time we didn’t. like we just chilled - didnt try to make plans or rush through, just accepted that this was the activity.
it helped to change the routine up a bit. since my roommate left, we decided to stay at my place. i had a friend over for tea before being dropped off at his place where we packed up some things and came back. we got weed and alcohol and watched the unabomber documentary on netflix. it was nice - no one was yelling, no one was bothered. i brought my bed out to the living room so we could watch the big screen and relax.
in the morning we went to the bakery and bought good stuff for breakfast. smoked some weed, finished the unabomber series and took a nap. then we went skating at the park downtown before buying ingredients to make a fancy pasta dinner at his house.
it was very nice. i felt that this was ~my christmas. we definitely needed time / space to enjoy each other as is instead of constantly rushing and or making plans for other things. the success of it and the lure of downtown began helping him change his min (as well as the fact he wants to live the life the unabomber lived and now he realizes its kind of crazy)tm
this week i have a doctors appointment and im supposed to get a tattoo. he leaves on friday basically but he should be back before the next friday which oesnt seem that bad at all? he’ll still be here for new years. and my birthday. considering i dont care about christmas anyways, seems like an okay deal and i’ll probably get free random shit from people anyways. 
things are 20% less bad than they were on thursday/friday last week. it’s not great but i dont want to die. which is like .... the most normal level of being for me possible rght now. i am not “excited” to see my doctor because it means ive gone off the deep end but i am excited for the relief that i will feel upon talking to a professional who advocates for me. i am considering asking if he would want to talk to one of my friends who has been dealing with me to see if it would help because i think it would help to see that i have smart friends who are active in my life in positive ways - like i still want to provide proof that i’m not just some drug addict.
on the weekend i told him the story of my cat frank. frank died in really traumatic circumstances which was totally unusual for most people. frank was very very very sick and i took him to the vet by bus because my father was very sick. the vet took my cat, performed emergency procedures on him, then asked me to pay for it. when i couldnt pay for it they gave me the option of releasing it to the humane society, which the humane society woulnt take it and i would have to rive it there myself or put the now healthy cat down. so basically i had to put it down. they wanted me to pay to put it down as well. i had a friends father come in and he yelled at them and made a ig eal and they put it down for me for free.
in my life, i figured this was just ~ another thing. he asked me why this happened, how it couldve happened, that it was like a really terrible story if not one of the worst he’s ever heard and pressed for details. i did not fully realize at the time how unique my exprience was. i thought this went with my old line of belief - i was crazy. i was the crazy one just experiencing the world aroun me and reacting to it in a crazy way. i just “didnt understand” what was happening. i was 16 and alone and just dealing with this. 
but i was not crazy. i had taken my family pet to the vet like anyone would in modern society on the expectation that they cared about animals. but they did not care at all and i dont think that people fully understand that the pet industry is about money - it is not about the animal at all. but most people will drain their bank accounts for a beloved animal. i know people who have spent thousands of dollars and acted like it was completely normal and okay. 
is it though? i dont know. it seems fucked that we domesticated animals to an overabunance and then put a huge price tag on caring for one that they would otherwise kill. when this animal once survived in the wild without any care at all. 
but i tried to explain the nuances of this story to him which he would have zero understanding of at all. it is a bit like racism. you would never understand what a black person felt if you are not black. you do not get the nuanced glances and little shuffles away from you on a daily basis that makes you feel inhuman. and you cant explain the depth of that to someone - it sounds like you’re overreacting and nitpicking when this bothers your soul because you were merely born into the world and others are reacting to you for no reason at all.
so i tried to explain the nuances of being in poverty, having an alternative style and possibly being perceived as not white. which is a weird and unknown factor to my life - i am perceived as not white. i cannot say for certain what i am perceived as - i’ve gotten mixed, spanish and asian. but many times i am perceived as “not white”. i believe as i am getting older and my “alternative” style has become more like an old witchy type lady who just wears black and i am judged even more based on my natural looks that i am in fact coming across as more native american now than since i was a kid. 
it is kind of easy to tell by clothes if someone is experiencing poverty. kind of. sometimes people are still really insecure and want to portray themselves better off because they know its more beneficial to do so. some eople have no choice at all. as a teenager my “altnerative style” itself looked poor. i wore ripped jeans and band tshirts, i had weird colored hair that i cut myself and i probably had gross peircings. maybe i was wearing makeup from the night before. maybe my shoes had holes in them. maybe my jacket did. maybe i wore my leopard print coat. i dont know. i dont even know what i looked like or what i wore - i expressed myself through my style and i was very all over the place. maybe they judged me by this.
and its so easy to “understand” the judgement of “some punk kid” but the nuanced beliefs that follow it are not. punk to many is a criminal. a drug addict. someone who doesnt care. a kid is someone who does understand, that they can control and manipulate. someone in poverty has no choice and other people wont care. they wont care that this is a teenage girl saving her beloved pet, willing to work out payment plans and everthing else to do it. 
he did seem to understand my perspective. i have alot to deal with. this is why its offensive when i have to hear him lament about some other person’s life - who i honestly have no doubt they struggled. i really dont. if i met them independently and they told me of their lives, i bet we would get along (provided they werent a drug addict anymore) because i feel we’d probably empathize with eachother far more than he ever empathized with us. and i have only heard stories from others and every story is terrible - their successes are few and far between and they actively make harmful choices. imagine how they felt life was like for them to come to such conclusions on how they’ll live. to make choices to shoot drugs and fuck with all these people without care - that’s probably a lot of people actively not loving you and/or serious mental illness. 
but when the focus is on that and them and my struggles are taken without the same heaviness or seriousness or acceptance of how this would affect me .. it’s offensive. i do not want to be in competition with anyone for a shitty life. you cannot even be proud of that. it’s just sad. i’m sa for them, i’m sad for me - it’s just sad. but when no seriousness is taken on my life, i find myself trying to defend the belief that my life was not easy. and not just “not easy” like my parents divorced  or i didnt get into the school i wanted. like really seriously not easy, likely equal to the not easiness of this person as well. i just had a completely unique not easy experience to them and perhaps it’s not as wild or entertaining? or i’m not the cute little white blonde girl? 
i explained this to another friend about a doctor. as a teenager a friend and i  went to the doctor to try and find some help for me. we were our usual teenage goth selves and the doctor pretty much laughed and thought we were lesbians (we were not, which i guess kudos to him for accepting our perceived homosexuality but that wasnt part of the issue at hand) 
this is just the very obvious points. the examples you can see where most likely some judgement occurred but the actual bigger picture is what all these nuanced interactions equal out to. if everyday my interaction with someone is clouded by pre-conceived notions of being a drug addict, a criminal, “not white” (which in itself could be leading to the first two but is racist all around anyways) or to the lesser degrees - strange, not “socially acceptable”. but i am none of these things -  am just me. 
and you know, right now i am in a place much like my friend was as a teenager. she struggled with her racial identitiy. she did not want to be seen as “brown”. she carried hatred and resentment towards her culture and did not want to accept it despite being “brown”. so like her, i am very non-accepting of drug addicts because their existence makes mine harder. a drug addict many times lives in poverty. “not white” people are perceived as drug addicts. alternative styles are seen as drug addicts. and drug addicts themselves, many of whom i’ve interacted with, are not nice people. they are not people you want to be around and yes - they are still people. under the heroin and crack, they are still people hurt and struggling. i get it. but they just made the struggle for themselves and me ten times harder. so i have to fight and defend myself that i am not a drug addict which is so hard to prove because they can believe you’re popping pills or your trip to the bathroom took too long and it’s frustrating as hell.
unlike my friend i do not have to accept my identity as a drug addict because i’m not one. i realized that i did in fact choose to take a harder route in the struggles of life because doing drugs is the easy way. and yes, smoking weed is kind of the same but i’ve dealt and cried about life. every experience ive had with other drugs has been very numbing and exaggerated and an altered viewpoint. that is not how i react with weed. i dont know if others react differently and i wouldnt argue if they did. but this is my reaction. i would smoke 2 joints everyday before i took an anti depressant which i have taken and do not have the same very positive effects. 
but when ihave done other drugs and if i chose to continue to do other drugs its a complete escape. 100% non functioning escape. and it’s not like “do a little” mdma and you’re just a little happier all day. PEOPLE ARE STILL AROUND YOUR WEIRD ASS which is affected by this drug in unusual ways like you’re a “little happier” and everyone else is uncomfortable. congrats. i do drugs and i am writhing on the floor like a piece of shit. 
anyways, he told his mother the story about the vet and she essentially pushed it aside and said it seemed unlikely. she is why my life is shit. people ust like her multiplied into the thousands. for all the nuanced judgements and personal experiences - it seemed unlikely. but it did happen. this is my life. you’re telling me my life seems unlikely. this is exactly what happened. a grown man with a government job came in and yelled at them. i know his name. why would that occur? do you not understand WHY I AM CRAZY?
i am constantly looking for validation because of people like her. not everyone is like her. some people with vast life experiences or real open minds take you for your word. anything is possible in life. but many people don’t. and many of those people hold positions of power or authority which may even be as simple as being a teacher or principal. but those people will shape and guide the path your life in society is going to take. when i told people of what was going on - they didn’t believe me, they didnt care; it seemed unlikely. so i’m left questioning the importance, my sanity, my perspective as well as dealing with the actual active problem entirely on my own with absolutely no help or direction what so ever. thank god i was an egotistical cocky angry teenager. my punk ass attitude and anger and genera ignorance got me through things i honest to god probably wouldnt even do now. younger me was ten times harder. i was ready to do anything go anywhere but i didnt because i had guilt and apathy. i didnt have the same apathy as i do now, but there was some. i dont have guilt anymore and looking back had i followed through on my teenage dreams, i mightve been better off. i wanted to move out early. i wanted to move out at like 15 - 16 years old. if my dad had not gotten sick, i wouldve been working at a job where i made 350 - 500$ every week doing shit i was fully 100% capable of doing with no issue what so ever. in a home environment interacting with one other person. i realized i had earned like 4000$ in the 3 -4 months i was working there and had literally nothing because i spent it on weed and vodka and ecstacy. then i lost the job for being so stressed out and smoking so much weed before and during work that i couldnt even do the job anymore. which was like SHIT I DO EVERY DAY ANYWAYS. 
at 17 i spent 3 months living by myself. literally. while working. an taking care of any responsibilities my sick father put on me and this is before hes even in the house. most people cant eve comprehend the idea of me doing this now but this is what i did. what you need to realize is that my mother at the time was also still alive. so for whatever reason she just ... didn’t give a fuck this was happening. she knew. she was fully aware. but not once did she offer anything. she just wanted to know if he was going to be dead or not. 
17 year old me dealt with this by smoking an insanely large amount of weed which i do not think i have even matched to this day because never have i had that much disposable income again. but not only did i smoke weed, i did a shit ton of mdma and k and drank a lot of vodka which was my drink of choice at the time. we stole my dads van, three times, for lke no purpose. it was bad. this was essentially my most punk era of time which i now look back on pretty disappointed with myself because i had the wherewithal to get a job, maintain a job but then be a complete piece of shit teenager. that was my time - had i not given into drugs or alcohol i’d have been WAY different. period. 
by not taking that way out - and i feel like people don’t understan i made a concious decision not to do it anymore but eliminating toxic people in my life and like completely removing myself from these situations. the last time of significance that i did drugs - my friend came from toronto to visit. this is what we did. the routine. she came and we woul get “bored” and decide lets just pool what money we have and get something. so i asked everyone on facebook - at the time i had probably 150+ friends (super unusual for me a really big number) and just asked anyone and everyone. a random kid who went to our school back in the day (we were probably 18 now) said he had some pills. we walked in the dark to meet this kid and he gave us 2 pills for 20$ which is a pretty big rip off but we didnt care. we went back to my place, popped them and got high as fuck. half way through our trip, my bf at the time randomly shows up. which was a big deal; he live 3 hours away and was surprising me. we were very surprised and it was awkward and weird and it wasnt like we could send him away. we had to spend a few hours with him awkwardly before she slept in the other room and i had an uncomfortable time “sleeping” with him. 
i decided then maybe i was getting too old. i spent two years doing drugs and going through his routine and it was wearing on my body already. my teeth and gums were always sore from grinding, my lungs were always sore from smoking so many cigarettes, i was spending all of my money on drugs - there was times when the drugs were clearly mixed with other more disgusting drugs like coke and meth and it would result in way more fucked up reactions like the time i hit myself in the thigh with a baton for 30 minutes before my friend noticed and made me stop. but the repetition and pain were part of the enjoyment for me. all of the times i was on drugs, i was a different person. i was someone i would never actually be. sure, my inhibitions were lower but the filters of how i truly felt and would act are no longer there and thats not a real represenation of my actual true self. these are just deep layers of myself that i may not even want to share or would normally consent to sharing if the drugs didnt affect me. and that bothered me alot. it stil bothers me - my behavior on drugs. people out there have seen me in ways im not proud of. i’m embarassed and i only have myself to blame. 
so thats the easy way. the hard way is living life within your true self and finding enjoyment in things when you can barely find the excitement in yourself. take a drug and do any activity - it’s fantastic. do nothing and it’s great. but fining things your true self wants to take part in -- long time drug addicts know the “boredom”. they never took the journey to find these passions and instead elected for the easy way to have the excitement handed to them.
and honestly? nothing really matches the thrill of mdma. or i guess crack or heron or whatever you do. i have never felt anything like it. every nerve is awake and aware, i am hyper sensitive to all of life and my mind is clear. everything is interesting and awe inspiring. 
but thats not life. you cant carry that into the slums of the ghetto. you cant go outsie and stare blindly at the sun. you cannot do it. this is not life. and its okay to someones experience it. the same way its okay to experience the heat of the sun. you can do it lightly ad responsibly. any other way really harms you.
in the spirit of positivity, here are some things that really get me going:
- playing an entire song with no mistakes on guitar and possibly singing it without fucking up or forgetting the words. super exciting to my life in ways nothing else is. it’s not even like i’m trying to play for other people it’s just a personal knowledge that i can do this and play it and feel it and create it. 
- making good food. not just like cooking food but the satisfaction of the actual creation of making something thats really good or luxurious. 
- being physically close to the person i am in a relationship with. i like the warmth and i was very deprived of physical contact but i dont like it with strangers or friends either so its a rare and nice feeling to lay close with someone. 
- a very fascinating tv show. like one that i have to keep watching because i neeeed to know. thats a unique and interesting feeling of human beings; being really curious. i guess it’s lke reading a book but i dont read much at this stage in my life but i hope ill become hat kind of person and when i do itll probably be exciting to have so much material in a world ive rarely visited. 
- cats. i really love cats. all of the cats. i love visiting people’s cats and i like to become friends with them. cats are great because they feel very individual; no two cats are the same and no matter how much the owner impresses on to the cat, the cat is just a cat and it does what it wants so it’s like getting to make a new friend even if the person you’re visiting isnt that exciting. cats are always great. even the shitty grumpy ones. or the old ones that maybe arent into you. if you spend enough time, eventually they will be and you can be friends and people think you’re a cat whisperer. i have atleast two cat friends i see regularly but i see more cats than that. we’re just not friends yet. 
- a really good song. either with really good rocking bluesy music or clever/well written lyrics. 
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