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#just all the season three protags in general i wanna know more about
heavy-lobster · 3 years
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Just gotta say its fucked up and evil that we never got to see Simon from before the train
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charmspoint · 3 years
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how was it ^-^
Let's seee. It was good, perfectly enjoyable, it reads fast and i was never really bored with it. I'd give most chapters like a 7/10 and then chapters 71-82 like 8 or 9/10 and then back to like 7/10 and the ending was weird but also kinda sweet in its own way.
Now to preface anything else: This isn't my type of manga. I can easily see it being a 10/10 for someone who really likes fight scenes and death and gore and what not. I'm not really into that, I'm a character and story driven person which is why the manga as a whole scored as just goodish to me while chapters 71-82 which kinda make a lot of emotional and psychological aspects of the chapters before them come to culmination scored a lot better. You know I don't GET fights. Chainsaw man was very gory but I didn't even really register it. Like because of all the gore I feel I heard people say it has horror aspects but I never really felt scared or off put or anything. It was just kinda like 'oh a lot of people are in pieces rn, okay, that's a thing that's happening'. So yeah that's why the score is the way it is, it simply isn't a manga that focuses on things I like and that's perfectly alright. I couldn't buy into the hype like I did with jjk and I certently didn't feel 'oh this is the best thing ever' like I felt with witch hat atelier.
With all that out of the way let me talk long and hard about Denji and sexual aspects of the series in a surprisingly positive light:
I like Denji as a character. I think he's still a bit rough around the edges but he's not a character made for introspection so that's fine, you really kinda have to take what he says and how he acts and think about it because the author won't do it for you. That being said, I think Denji is probably the most compelling shonen protagonist I've read so far. Like when I read bnha or jjk I see Izuku and Yuji and I'm like 'this is a shonen protagonist'. They are a likable character but they won't be your favorite character. They are largely made for japanese high school boys to project themselves on and I'm not a japanese high school boy. That being said, Denji feels like a character of his own and not something meant to be projected on to. Honestly if anyone projected on to Denji I'd be worried about them. But that makes him probably the most compelling shonen protagonist I've ever read. You just wanna dig a shovel into his skull and go 'man kid ur fucked up'.
I know when you first read csm you were off put by Denji because it felt like a manga put a pervert character as a protag which is naturally off putting and I can 100% see that. Now be it because I was warned about it first or something else, I didn't actually find fanservice jarring at all. It kinda was integrated into the world in a way that made me think 'yeah of course it's like this'. This is a very grim and rough and drty world and things in it would be just like that. It is a story about base desires and sex is one of those. These are people who expect they will die any day now and Denji is a person who's just now getting to experience a somewhat decent standard of living. Here's a thing I noticed though: even as Denji thinks many sexual things (which, he's a teenager, that's normal) he's actually very respectful. I don't think I've ever seen him touch anyone without their permission, in fact i think things like that mostly happen to him. Like example how Power comes in just as Denji is in the middle of his 'i wanna touch some boobs' phase. You would almost expect that what happens next is we see him try to grope Power as she's sleeping or something. But no, he doesn't do a thing until she asks him to help her save her cat and he gets to touch her boobs for it. And it's like this with p much every other sexual encounter through the series. Both partners are consenting and getting something out of the whole thing. Sexual aspects are used as normal bartering chips in a world where your whole body is a bartering chip. It's normal and no one is forced into it. I've told you before that my biggest misgiving with fanservice is that it's often based on embarrassment and unwilling participation of the girls. Like fanservice isn't fanservice because you saw a boob it's fanservice because you saw a boob when you weren't supposed to, when the girl didn't want you, when she's angry or scared or embarrassed because you did. A lot of fanservice feels very much like taking something from the girl, debasing and humiliating her for the sake of watchers/readers satisfaction.
Despite all it's sexual jokes and themes and everything else Chainsaw man never once made me feel like that. It never once made me feel like the author expected me to gain sexual satisfaction out of debasement of female cast. Which is why even though boobs and naked women are literally all over the manga I didn't mind it at all. It stopped being fanservice and became just a natural part of characters lives as sexuality and sex is a natural part of real world.
Back to Denji.
So I mussed a bit about Denji and Maslow before but here it is in total
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Denji is 16 years old and at the beginning of the series he's just starting to have his physiological and safety needs met. Like he doesn't live like a human being at the start of the series and Makima recruiting him is A BIG CHANGE for him. Like for a good while Denji is like 'Now I have three meals a day and a place to sleep at so I'm good with whatever'. He's given reliable sources to fulfil his needs and he's given a way to keep those sources stable. He has a job, it's not a good job but he has it. He has a place to live and a theoretical safety net. He's immortal so there's nothing to fear in the death and injury department which means the otherwise unsafe job is perfectly fine for him. Now what Denji gets stuck on through most of the series is Love and Belonging. Because you can't just give someone love like you can give them food (not that Makima doesn't try). People are more complicated. Compromises need to be made and human connections are hard to establish, especially if you are someone like Denji who has no idea how to interact with others aside from obeying orders. This is why his need for love and belonging first manifests as a sexual need (that and he's an allo teenager). Human connections are hard but sexual contact doesn't have to come tied with connections so it's easier (if unsatisfactory as Denji finds out with Power) to achieve. A lot of Denji's personal growth is tied to him finding out that this need can be fulfilled by other things alongside sex. This is why I love chapters 71-82 so much because they are really a culmination of Denji's emotional journey in that category. Along the way along with sexual love he finds romantic one. He wants to spend time with girls he likes, he wants them to like him beyond the sexual. Of course sexuality is always an aspect of it but after that scene with Power it's never the only thing. Human connection, understanding the other person, knowing them, loving them, making them happy. And it all culminates in the familial love he finds with Aki and Power, taking care of someone and being taken care of for no other reason than they are your family and you love them, you care for them, you want them to be well and happy. There's this scene with Power later on when they are taking a bath together and Denji is like 'huh we are both naked but it doesn't feel naughty at all'. He's stopped seeing Power sexually because he started to see her as his sister and it's just really nice, those few chapters we get to see them as a family are really nice.
By the end of the series Denji starts checking off the esteem box too, by people accepting him and loving him and him feeling like he wants to respond to that, but I feel like that aspect and possible self actualization will be more explored in part 2.
There you have it, my essay about why Denji is the most compelling Shonen protagonist I've ever read :)
Also I really liked the girls in this series, it really isn't afraid of letting it's female characters be weird and gross and in Makima's case just plain evil and I appreciate it for that. I just wish Quanxi got more time and things to do but she's a side character and it's not her fault she's cooler than the whole main cast (Power best girl tho).
I feel like I talked a lot already about what was my most important take away from the whole thing but yeah, in general: pretty entertaining read, would probably be a complete blast for someone who's invested in fights, a little thin on psychology and emotion for my tastes but when it delivers them it delivers them good.
Also I like how it basically ended on 'you should give people more hugs' it was cute
Additionally I think the authors idea to basically release manga in seasons like you would an anime is straight up genius I hope that more mangakas start picking this up because it allows them more rest in between big arcs.
Ok now that's it for real this time.
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stix-n-bread · 3 years
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Character ask: Jim
Why I like them ~
he has a very soft design, i just love the way his nose slopes and how his hair almost makes for a mullet in the back too lol. he’s also very adoptable, if his 10+ non-human family members isn’t any clue! also he can COOK
Why I don’t ~
i won’t hold it against him, but watching him refusing to tell his mother about what was happening despite her insistence was frustrating to watch, but i know that it was hard for him too.
Favorite episode (scene if movie) ~
the one in 3 below where he and aja know each other from the time loop! i really loved their interactions in there, watching two of the main protags of the different parts of the saga working together was very refreshing imo!
Favorite season/movie ~
wizards gave us full!troll-jim, 120/100
tho in all honesty he showed a lot of growth in season 3, especially after making that huge sacrifice
Favorite line ~
his “what in the world???” gets me every time. i feel you jimmy jam (AND HIS DESTINY SPEECH)
Favorite outfit ~
his normal everyday blue jacket is the classiest
OTP ~
definite top three are jlaire (jim/claire), joby (jim/toby) and jlaireby (jim/claire/toby), crushes to sweethearts and/or best friends to lovers! these kids are truly close with each other in any way you can think of, regardless of any of those ships you choose! jeves (steve/jim) and pepperlake (eli/jim) are also ones i adore lol (stelijim too!)
Brotp ~
toby is is fucking BESTIE, they love each other and got each others backs, platonic or not. i’d absolutely love to see more of them in the upcoming movie, and in fan content in general
also, draal is his huge adult bro who helps him with recycling, and eventually gets him to protect and also clean. jim loves him too
Head canon ~
the boy is trans! 💗🤍💙
also, when (WHEN) he grows older he’ll open up a restaurant catering to humans and trolls! where they could interact in harmony and jim is declared the best cook in the land
Unpopular opinion ~
I’m super glad that he wasn’t able to weild excaliber at the end of wizards— and i kinda?? hope that he won’t be able to? he’s already been through so much and adding more weight onto his shoulders would just crush him :(
A wish ~
i wanna see jim trying to get used to being human again! little scenes with little mishaps on his part, or maybe scenes where it implies that yes jim is human again, but there are things that may never be the same (or at least will take a long while to adapt). and let jim be happy and get some REST
An oh-god-please-dont-ever-happen ~
DON’T DIE PLEASE, toa’s taught me a thing or two about getting too attached to characters
5 words to best describe them ~
very sweet teen master chef
My nickname for them ~
jimbo, jimmy jam, slim jims, the list goes on
send me a character!
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masahikass · 4 years
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okay so since i couldn’t resist, here’s some info about my random ie:go steven universe!au because i have no energy for online lessons :)
also i didn’t want to post about another au since @/primsbean is making so many posts about her ie:go madoka magica!au which i fUCKING LOVE OHMYGOD- but yeah, alternate universes are my favorite snacc. i have another one to talk about but first let’s say things about the SU one <3
under the cut because it’s LONG - and remember i’m not a native english so i might do some mistakes
okay so first of all, don’t blame me if there will be some events that don’t follow the plot (since i’m NOT remaking steven universe with ie charas!!!!! please keep this in mind) or events that Rebecca Sugar would have never inserted in her show. I respect everyone who worked at steven universe, and my intention is not to say their plot/story was bad, i’m just adding something that did never happen with any chara in the su series to make my au more original, that’s it. peace and love oN THE PLANET EARTH- okay that was the best su song hands down
also keep in mind gems don’t have “gemmic” names (if you know just a little of the su series, you should know all the gems are named after their gem, but i wont give that kind of names to the ie boys - or should i call them gems then? lol)
all the gems - for now - will be males too (as there werent any og male gems in steven universe besides steven, which is an hybrid though so...)
i will list each chara’s gem and ability after the general plot <3
so, the actual protags (though all the charas are!!! these are the two) are Tenma and Fey, who are around 5,000 years old - please if you don’t remember how the gems’ years worked go search it up, there are so many threads about that - and protect inazuma city (insert shooked face) from corrupted gems’ attacks. these attacks are not really frequent and they seem to deal with the situation, but one day they start increasing, being more frequent than usual and also the gems who attack are stronger and different from the previous ones. Fey starts making a theory about a possible new attempt of the homeworld gems (i still haven’t decided which charas will “represent” them, though, since this plot is a kind of season 1 we could say??) to start colonizing Earth via war, as they already did 3,500 years before the current events but failed, with the terrestrial gems rejecting them but also losing a lot of them - since some of them got shattered during the war and others escaped to travel to other planets to start colonizing them theirselves so they could live a new, pacific life. Tenma, at first, isn’t that sure about what Fey said, but as the corrupted gems’ attacks kept increasing he realized he could have been right. as they’re the only two gems who protect their city, they start thinking they should ask help to someone, trying to find more powerful gems. 
Fey suggests to search for a trio (whose name is still not 100% sure... i randomly thought about Prism Trio just because I couldn’t remake Crystal Gems ahahah I still don’t know) which protect old war ruins in a forgotten area which is actually near Inazuma City though - but still, only some gems know about it, for example Fey did researches but Tenma knew nothing. This trio will be formed by your local ie:go chaotic trio aka Shindou, Kirino and Kariya (well, if i don’t get any more ideas for the name, then Gay Trio will be alright), who are respectively 7,600, 8,000 and 7,100 years old and actually fought in the first war. They find them fighting against a corrupted fusion, and try to join them to finish it easily and fastly. As they actually give the trio a good help, they still get scolded by them because they went in an area they shouldn’t have been to. However, the trio is still thankful to them for their help, and when Fey tells them about the situation in Inazuma City Shindou replies telling him his theory might be right as he had heard about the increasing attacks, also because the ruins were more attacked than usual in that period. Tenma kindly asks them if they could give their help back, coming with him and Fey and trying to reject the attacks together, even though he thought they’d never agree. Kirino is absolutely okay with that and shows positivity towards Tenma’s idea, while Kariya isn’t that sure since all of them should get used to a new routine, different from the one they were used to in the last millenniums. Shindou, who was neutral at the beginning, proved Kirino right since that would have been the best way to know more about the new attacks, and finally convinces Kariya to join them.
As they get in TenFey’s temple (which is the only thing IDENTICAL to the original SU one, except for the statue in the original version which is absent now), they start organizing their rooms (you know, in the temple there was that one door who led to each gem’s personal room, so the trio starts get used to them), they also keep fighting against new species of corrupted gems who keep attacking the city.
One day, then, all the five gems get to another ruins area, further from the ones the trio used to fight in, and at a moment Tenma remains alone and encounters... bepreparedtocringeihadnoideassorry... Sasuke. Yes, I did a Lion reference using Tenma’s dog instead. Original af, congrats. BY THE WAY,, he understands this gIaNt DoG (ohmygod the lion sounded better,, damn me and my dumb ideas) is related to gems somehow, and when he gets back - since Sasuke disappears after some seconds - tells the others about it, but everyone gets it as a joke and doesnt trust him. In the next fight, though, Sasuke approaches the gems and gives them help (still idk how, gotta rewatch all the lion episodes 382679345 times to get more ideas), so they all understand Tenma was right.
Some days after that, while Tenma is playing with Sasuke (gOOD BOY,,,,, I MEAN GEM,,,,,,,,,,), the dog drags him into a portal/warp (did i spell it good omg my english gets worse every day...) - just as lion sometimes does in the og series, lol - and since this warp keeps being open for some seconds, the other four gems enter it as Tenma might be in trouble alone. They all discover Sasuke led Tenma to an unknown area, which i wanted to be a desert bUT THAT LOOKS A LOT LIKE THE OG SERIES HOLY SHI- so okay, let’s make it a normal land, where there’s a fight going on. They notice a gem fighting a corrupted one all alone, and this gem seems really in need of help so they try everything to save him (oMg SpOiLeRs ThE gEm Is A mALe ToO!!11!!!111!) as they see he doesn’t have any weapon and only fights with the things he finds around himself, such as common rocks. That gem is no one else (???) than Hikaru *cries in i needed to add him hes so baby* who tells the five gems he had never seen such a powerful corrupted gem before and that he was used to reject the previous attacks in that zone more easily, and when Tenma asks him if he wants to come with him and the others to the temple Hikaru accepts without any doubt. As he gets to the temple, the others ask him if he has any weapon, but he tells them he never had the strenght to “develop” one. Perhaps, his ability (the only i’ll reveal here in the plot!!) is really useful, as he can generate light from his gem and make people and other gems blind for a limited amount of time - which, at the beginning, is really short but always increasing. He also wants to practice it as he wants to control the limit of time (for example, blinding people/gems just for a minute even if he could do for ten). When he shows his ability to the other gems, they all get blind... besides Kariya and here the ship sails *coughs* n-nothing, who is actually immune to the light’s effect. Being the only one who doesnt get blind, he starts helping Hikaru to develop his weapon.
I still haven’t thought about the rest of the plot, but there are still three characters I wanted to add. In order: Kyousuke, as an hybrid whose backstory will be way different from Steven’s in the og series (as he wasn’t born an hybrid, neither one of his parents was a gem), then Minaho and Manabe who are gems from another planet (not Homeworld, though) that are usually fused all the time... but, still, I have to think abt a plot ahah
If you’ve got this far, well... congrats? I know this is really long oh damn-
Btw, before I go, here’s the gems’ weapons and abilities as I promised! <3
Tenma: bow and arrow, he can control the wind
Fey: he basically makes grow poisonous creepers from everywhere (kind of inspired from Lapis in the og series as she generated water and could control it), controls nature in general
Shindou: sword, his voice can reach really high pitches so if he screams he can destroy things (and, maybe, he could start shattering gems too... who knows)
Kirino: lance, has a really high speed
Kariya: basically can make strong claws grow from his hands (idk how to describe it holy fuck,,, i cant draw either, if i could i’d have showed u), his ability is telekinesis
Hikaru: well, i don’t wanna spoil his weapon as i’m gonna make another post asap... i already said what his ability was, btw. also!! i didnt mention it before, but his age is around 3000 y/o
Kyousuke: katana, he can read any person’s mind for ten minutes if he had contact with them, same goes with gems but he must touch their gem in order to read their mind (age, in human years: 17)
Minaho: guns, he can understand if someone or something interacted with someone/something else just by smelling it (sounds cringe ik,, btw his age is the same as Manabe’s, 6,700)
Manabe: since i had no more ideas, don’t blame me if this sounds Peridot-ish, but he can actually generate small but powerful robots he can control and fight with, his ability is controlling technology in general.
Another last thing... these nine characters are the same of the other au i mentioned (which is way more calm than this,,, i also have more info abt that, too), so look forward to that too <3
I’mma go now, bye!
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ravenwolfie97 · 6 years
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i randomly answered ten more of those OC questions bc i just want to talk abt em so i’ll do it myself
it got long, so have a read more for your protection
Has anyone ever told you that you treat your OCs badly? - No, I don't think anyone has told me that directly. For one thing, I don't tell people that often. But they have been surprised by what I do to them sometimes.
A character you no longer use? - Oh, SO MANY. I've scrapped so many stories and left so many concepts on the sidelines that I use very few of the OCs I've created. I don't plan on reviving the characters from The Legendary Spirits, Shala Tyso being the main protag. She was a young girl who ended up in another planet/dimension, got her arm torn off by wild animals, and have to get a cyborg prosthetic with elemental powers. She was a cool character but I have no idea what the story would have really been, so she and the rest of the cast (that I've mostly lost their refs for) are benched indefinitely.
Name an OC that isn’t yours but who you like a lot. - I'm gonna exclude my buddy Mana for this, because while I love her countless OCs, I wanna shine some light on some other people. One of my favorite artists for years has Tom Fischbach (yes, he is Markiplier's brother), and during my webcomics phase I got into his long-running comic Twokinds, which will have gone on for 15 years by this October! One of the main characters is Flora, a young tigress Keidran (humanoid animal), who is spunky and fun and smarter than she leads on. She's a joy to watch, and her loving relationship with her human boyfriend Trace is fantastic. I should really read through it again...
Your most dangerous OC? - Dangerous? Hmm... Honestly, one of my favorite villain OCs is the Doppelgaenger from Legends, and really the only one I've plotted anything for. While Satan himself is also part of this world, I still think the Doppelgaenger is more dangerous in terms of what it's capable of. The Doppelgaenger has the ability to change its form into anyone, as you might guess, BUT it can only change into the form of someone it has killed. Once the target dies, it takes its memories and mannerisms to make a perfect, indistinguishable copy. It then uses its new form to manipulate others into creating chaos or to rope someone else in as its next victim.
OC who is a perfect cinnamon roll, too good for this world, too pure - I don't have any in my current proejcts, really. But back when I made random stories with my stuffed animals, Tobie the Tree Kangaroo and Rascal the Raccoon were absolute cinnamon rolls. Both were rather shy, naive, and skittish, but they were also very sweet and compassionate. Rascal was much more emotional and had to own up as a protagonist, while Tobie stayed as a side character with a more mellow personality.
Is there any OC of yours people tend to mischaracterize? - I can't say, since people don't talk about my own characters besides myself. I feel like people would mischaracterize a lot of the DSWD characters, mainly because I kind of did for a while too before developing them more and making them more three-dimensional.
Which one of your OCs would be the most suitable horror game protagonist and why? -Oh man... I don't know what would qualify for a horror game protagonist. I mean... I made a one-shot horror story with the main character named Jordan, so I guess... him? idk
Do you RP as any of your OCs? - I used to! Back when I used deviantArt regularly, I entered a Pokemon OC tournament and made two characters for each of the two seasons I participated in, Kaminari and Mikael. Roleplaying was a big part of it so we could develop our characters' interactions for each round and between rounds, so I RP'd with three different people: one whose character was Shane, one whose characters were Aerin and Xavier, and one whose character was Marine. All of them were great, but I spent the most time with Aerin/Xavier. I also RP'd with Sierra, my protag for Legends, with my friend Alexa and her character Ciana (I think, I deleted those notes). Also did a few TOME RPs with my friends North and Winry with my self-insert Ravenwolf as well as our OC villain Shade and his cohorts. Nowadays, I'm rusty in roleplay, but it's still pretty fun!
Which one of your OCs would be the best dancer? - I actually have an OC who is studying to be a dance instructor! Her name is Maria, and she specializes in latin dancing, particularly salsa.
Which one of your OCs would be the most interested in Greek gods? - Oooh, probably Emily from DSWD. I have a headcanon that she has a secret love for mythology in general.
aight that’s ten, i’ll probs do this again
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