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rapidhighway · 9 months
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This comic is cathartic to me
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bughead-in-the-comics · 5 months
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Crowned Bughead. ♥
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arotechno · 1 year
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it's just me and the chip zdarsky jughead (2015) "normal guy" panel against the world
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capsule30 · 1 year
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Jaiden and Jughead, asexual ICONS (whose names also start with “J”???)
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navy-pon · 2 years
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I read the 2015 comic and god we needed the representation.
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I started reading the Jughead 2015 series for the ace/aro rep (cause I am s t a r v e d let me tell you), and it's just such a fun read. This is really the first Archie property I've ever consumed, but I got hooked fast. And because I can't be normal about any media ever, the natural next step from reading the series was doing an entire page of fanart based off of it! So enjoy more comfortable character fanart
(This is kind of an old page in my sketchbook, and I can't remember if I posted this on my main blog or not. If not, here it is, and if so, here it is again!)
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bunn-iiii · 2 years
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*sighs dreamily*
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sirompp · 3 months
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jughead(2015) panel redraw 😁😁😁
(original panel under the cut)
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herebythebays · 6 months
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now, by no means is Jughead (in the comics) ugly. But also. I’ve been noticing that recent Archie comic spin-offs or whatever such as Big Ethel Energy, for example, have been giving him more. I don’t know, like chiseled features? And also have been just making him not look like himself. Like I understand the long nose is unrealistic but atleast Jughead (2015) tried to execute it in a somewhat “realistic” way that also stays true to his design bc look at this comparison 😭
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I get it’s also a matter of artstyle and all but. That’s just a whole different guy atp.
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nat-20s · 9 months
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tags by @silvernsold reading: #you're really selling me on the archie comics.... #maybe I should read them
oooo you wanna read the 2015 Jughead Jones comics so bad oooo there's three volumes and they're self contained oooo jughead jones in them to this day is one of the best arospec ace characters I've ever seen ooooo you wanna click this link so bad: https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Jughead-2015
ooo you also wanna read the digital comic jughead jones time police because it's also extremely fun: https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Jughead-s-Time-Police-2019
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peacerisendove · 6 months
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Big Ethel Energy Season 2 Episode 30
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It just gets worse and worse.
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GIRL. But you sure as hell can control your reaction to a situation!!!
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-Rolling my fucking eyes in ACE-
I genuinely do not believe that in a society in which romance and sex (and in association marriage) are upheld to such a high standard and believed to be the norm that anyone has judged people for wanting a partner or romantic relationship. I have never heard in my fair amount of years living on this Earth anyone say that there is something wrong with wanting a partner. There's more societal pressure to find a partner, romance, to have sex, and social stigmas attached those subjects and NOT finding someone than there is with desiring a romantic relationship?
I really just don't understand???
Really why is this comic reading so aphobic? Is it just me? It can't just be me, right? (Literally help me out here and comment for my sake and understanding.)
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This is literally such a reasonable thing to feel that I don't understand why the narrative is saying it's not a common thing to feel or that there's pressure to be satisfied being alone? Now I admit I don't personally relate to feeling guilty that you want to be loved, nor understand where that's coming from. I think the narrative wants you to feel empathetic toward Betty.
Moving on.
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Her internal monologue continues to come off as if she thinks she's better than her friends who stayed in Riverdale. Like who says "It's surprising how the tables have turned" with regard to their friends? That phrase implicitly contains the perspective that you have never seen yourselves as equals, but in opposition to each other. It just rubs me the wrong way.
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And as for this comment: YOU LEFT HIM WITH JUGHEAD FOR SEVEN HOURS. Also your hosting consisted of dragging him around town. What hosting is that??
And that's all I have to say so far. There was nothing I wanted to comment about in episode 31 to 34 so there won't be posts for those episodes.
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comicake · 2 years
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oh wow so they acknowledge that
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and still decided to be like fuck that Jughead fell in love. Whyyy??
Okay some people say that maybe this whole story is made up but it has been 42 chapters for fucks sake just give us a clear answer. Jughead is not even important in this comic. Just leave him out of this romance bullshit
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bughead-in-the-comics · 9 months
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From Jughead #14 (2017).
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arotechno · 2 years
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Jughead (2015), Aromanticism and Representation Part 2: Zdarsky, North, and the Word of God
When I reviewed Zdarsky and North’s arcs in the Jughead (2015) comics, I noted the differences between their portrayals of Jughead’s aromanticism. Namely, Zdarsky’s work is a lot more subtle but ultimately feels like it was written specifically with aromanticism in mind, whereas North’s work is more on-the-nose but is sometimes grating or uncomfortable when it comes to the reactions of other characters. I want to talk a bit more about that here, and then I want to talk about canonization and the value of word-of-god representation.
Firstly, Zdarsky. Chip Zdarsky is credited with canonizing Jughead’s asexuality on the page, and his aromanticism via the word of god. Ryan North stayed true to this portrayal when he picked up the series following the conclusion of Zdarsky’s run.
If you’ll recall, the vast majority of Zdarsky’s run (the first six of eight issues) do not pay much attention to Jughead’s orientation at all, although this section does contain the first (and only) textual use of the word “asexual” in the entire series. This would make most folks inclined to believe that Zdarsky did not consider it at all, but I personally am more than okay with not every story factoring in Jughead’s orientation, and the arc he did write on the topic (issues 7­-8) more than makes up for it in my opinion. This is the arc where Jughead and Archie get lost camping, and the following exchange takes place:
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I have written at length about this scene in particular, so I will be brief in noting the following:
(1) Jughead’s hurt is palpable, and beautifully portrayed. Whereas other writers may have played such an exchange for laughs, Zdarsky validates Jughead’s feelings of abandonment, hurt, and isolation in this arc, while managing not to villainize Archie in the process.
(2) Archie not only knows immediately that he fucked up, but very quickly apologizes. His actions are not justified, and his reaction suggests that not only is he aware of Jughead’s orientation, but he respects it and him enough to make amends for hurting his best friend.
(3) Never is Jughead being aroace mentioned explicitly here, but to any reader paying attention, it comes off quite obviously. If you take Jughead being aroace as an implicit truth about his character, which is the way Zdarsky confirmed he was writing him, it becomes abundantly clear that this is what Archie refers to when he uses the phrase “a normal guy,” and that this is the source of their inability to understand each other and the strain it is having on their friendship.
Now, when Ryan North took over, he accepted Zdarsky’s canonization as gospel and ran with it, a fact for which I am quite thankful. His primary arc is the one with Sabrina, in which Jughead accidentally agrees to a date with his newfound friend and has to figure out how he is going to explain the misunderstanding—or, better yet, just keep trying to escape her affections until the problem magically (ha) goes away.
North is much more explicit about Jughead being aromantic, while still not using the word. Jughead uses phrases like “I don’t get crushes” and “I don’t like people that way,” and visibly panics over the realization that he accidentally agreed to a for-real date.
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These scenes are really great, and the time that North took to put Jughead in a situation that directly required addressing his aromanticism is incredibly valuable. However, there are aspects of North’s portrayal that bother me. To summarize my previous thoughts on the matter:
(1) North depicts the situation with a lot of nuance, being certain to address the ways in which Jughead is screwing up while also validating his very real feelings. The ultimate resolution is heartwarming and satisfying in that Jughead is finally able to be honest with Sabrina, and Sabrina accepts and supports him wholeheartedly, allowing them to finally be friends.
(2) However, Jughead’s existing friends are woefully unhelpful every step of the way. Of course, this is in many ways realistic; many aros have people in their lives who are quick to dismiss their aromanticism the moment they feel it might no longer be true. With Archie, this borders on a continuity error—but that is the cost of switching writers so frequently. But the issue is that his friends are never prompted by the narrative to apologize. They meddle and push Jughead into going through with the date without ever listening to what he wants—something he comments on—and the only character who gets a resolution on this front is Sabrina, by necessity.
(3) North being clearly unafraid of expressing Jughead’s aromanticism is refreshing, but the lack of accountability on his friends is kind of uncomfortable, and it makes it hard to play those moments for laughs.
Which of these is better? Which has more value? The truth is I think that either arc being removed from the story would be to its detriment, and in a perfect world we’d have gotten the best of both portrayals in one. However, it is worth pointing out the differences between them for the sake of acknowledging that representation can be done in different ways, each with their own costs and benefits. Zdarsky’s portrayal cuts deep and shows a more subtle portrayal of aromanticism as it affects relationships, but that subtlety means that aromanticism is taking more of a backseat focus. Meanwhile, North’s portrayal is much more on-the-nose and is expressed much more obviously, but it leaves something to be desired in terms of how it holds other characters accountable.
Both, however, have something very crucial in common. And this is that neither Chip Zdarsky nor Ryan North ever used the word “aromantic” on the page.
Three years ago, I spoke at length about this for the Carnival of Aros, and I expressed distrust that someone like Zdarsky would have ever thought about Jughead’s romantic orientation without having been prompted first. That may be true, but nevertheless on subsequent rereads I’ve softened on that position somewhat. Perhaps we don’t know if either of them would have eventually used the word on the page had they gotten more time, or if later writers (not Waid lol) would have had the series not been discontinued. There is a universe in which we eventually got an on-the-page confirmation with a satisfying emotional journey to boot, but sadly we live in a universe where R*verdale became more popular and Archie Comics stopped producing Jughead comics several years ago, and that is the reality I went into this (already incredibly long) post intending to contend with.
Zdarsky once said via Twitter that he was writing Jughead as, for the purposes of his teen years, aromantic, and that he sees him as probably demiromantic later in life. I still don’t know how I feel about that comment, and I suppose I will let demiromantic people decide that one. In any case, the fact is that Zdarsky never used the word on the page, and North never did either. But my question is, how much does it matter?
The short answer is that of course it matters. On-the-page confirmation with the words explicitly used leaves no room for misinterpretation, increases awareness of the identity, and is super important for communities like ours in particular that have next to nothing in that regard. Using the word on the page would have been huge in 2015 and it would still be huge now. But it was 2015. And for 2015, Zdarsky gave us a pretty good start.
Yes, it matters. But representation being confirmed via the word of god does not necessarily make it bad representation. In fact, I think Jughead is stellar aroace representation, especially for teenagers. To say, in any respect, that such an icon of pop culture is aspec and to then go on to work that into your story, even if the words never make it onto the page, holds a lot of cultural power, and in fact Zdarsky made a lot of people mad with this. If given the hypothetical choice, which would you rather have? A character like Jughead, a main character in his own series that actually has his aromanticism addressed and portrayed with respect but is never written out directly, or a character who is confirmed on-screen as aromantic with the words but is a side character whose aromanticism is never important and only exists for tokenized representation brownie points? Every time someone recommends something with an aro character to me, I’m like, does it matter? Are they important, is their aromanticism important, or are they just an exasperated shipper-on-deck side character who the creators can slap a pride flag edit on? Because the truth is I’d rather have Jughead. Sure, I’d rather have it all, but I can’t. So in the absence of such perfection, I’ll take word-of-god canon with respect and impact and good intentions over tokenism.
To be clear: I am not trying to praise Zdarsky and North outright for what should be the bare minimum in staying true and faithful to decades of pre-existing characterization. In fact, I do still believe that to not use the word aromantic on the page was cowardly, and I wish they had done it, and I wish we’d gotten more Jughead comics to see what else we could have gotten as the years went on. But what we did get, for all its flaws, has value, and I’m probably never going to be done talking about it. Though I am, for now. This essay is long enough already.
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comicsguy · 2 years
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where are the judhead loving mutuals. i just wanna tALK
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theladypeace · 2 years
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DID YALL SEE THE NICKELODEON MONSTER HIGH THING😦
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