#jayce rants

[beautyconsumer]

y'know how in fanon Jason is known to like simple things and has a hard time accepting expensive gifts?

That's great but I was thinking... Jason... son of Bruce Wayne you're telling me that man didn't compensate for his lack of showing physical and verbal affection and didn't shower Jason with expensive gifts. I'm thinking games, bikes, books anyhting he thought Jason might like

Because this boy had nothing and grew poor and Bruce can give him whatever he wants.

And in canon, as much as I remember, when we are shown Jason's apartment we see his apartment being neat and filled with nice, fancy stuff a random person wouldn't have laying around

This too adds to my theory that yes, Jason would make a great Wayne as dramatic as he is. We lacking content of that fr

#jason todd #dc comics #batfam #batman #dc #batfamily #effy's ranting #my post #jason wayne #jayce wayne #that's hilarious

[not-a-font]

So I've just recently watched Arcane, and it's an absolute banger of a show. 10/10 would recommend.

A part of why I think it's good it because it's doesn't really have heros and villains in the conventional sense. All the "villainous" characters have clear motivations, and the narrative highlights the ways they justify their own actions in a way that frames them as understandable even if they are undeniably wrong.

That is... With two not-so-notable exceptions.

These two assholes, whose names I completely forgot and had to look up.

These two are some of the few characters framed as completely and totally unsympathetic. This is very intentional because each one is meant to exemplify what exactly is wrong with the place they help lord over.

For Piltover, the story presents it as an elitist society full of decadence that doesn't care for anything except for it's own economic expansion.

Of the main characters that could exemplify this, there's Jayce, who's actually a pretty decent guy who wants to use science to improve lives but gets stuck in the politics of it all. There's also Mel, who at first seems to be the very pinnacle of an ambitious corrupt politician, only for the story to juxtapose her with her war mongering mother and have her start a relationship with Jayce, which rounds her character and also paints her as sympathetic.

So when all your main characters to complex to properly convey to the audience the problems of your society, you have to show it off through the side characters. Hence, we have Hoskel (that I originally misspelled as Holdaak for some reason lol)

Hoskel is in no way sympathetic. He's fat and greedy and stupid. Mel gives him a children's toy and he's still trying to solve it six years later. When there's a crisis, his first concern is his wine shipments. He's everything wrong with Piltover, so when the audience is done being captivated by the compelling characters, they can look at Holdaak and go "ah yes, this is why the poor is repressed and the government is completely corrupt."

Same goes for Zaun. It's hard to use Silco as a way to represent all the problems with Zaun because the audience is too focused on his compelling relationship with Jinx. Yes he's a kingpin controlling the masses with drugs, but the audience can see how he got there, and right now he cares more about Jinx than his own power.

Meanwhile we have Finn, a lesser kingpin complicit in Silco's regime and actively riding off of his coat tails for the sake of his own power. He's dissociated with the plight the average Zaun denizen to the point that he can't even breath the same air as them without choking on the ground.

When the audience is wondering why Zaun is so much worse after Silco took over, they can look at that guy and go, "ah yes, it's because people like this guy are benefitting from the addicted masses."

#arcane #arcane analysis #arcane silco #arcane mel #arcane jayce #zaun #piltover #first time doing the thing where you make an actual analysis instead of ranting incoherently #hope i did well #anyways i just love arcane and it's foils #literally everything and everyone is a foil #goes very well with the two city narrative #also both holdaak and Finn are totally under the thumb of the better character (Mel/Silco) #but for holdaak its willingly but for Finn it's because he can't do anything about #also mel giving holdaak a children's toy amd him keeping onto it for so long is really funny for me #Mel was like: lol he's to dumb for a 3x3 let's just give him a pyra-mix

[your-local-ruebit-hole-detective]

I think a lot about the canon interpretation of Jayce abandoning Viktor for Mel, and in the course of trying to write a one shot about the subject, I’ve realized it just kind of… isn’t true?

Like… if you look at the plot beat where Mel, Jayce, and Viktor’s relationship is on full display, the hexcore/sex scene, it’s late at night. Jayce hasn’t abandoned Viktor for Mel, he’s just having a romantic life outside of work. I would question anyone who would say that’s abandonment. And when he hears Viktor is hurt, he actually leaves Mel for Viktor! He leaves her alone without so much as a note, because his friend/brother/lover (depending on your interpretation) needs him.

And then later, when Jayce apologizes to Mel for leaving her, he says sorry… and then immediately segues into talking about Viktor. (Which, yknow, kind of a dick move.) His apology essentially amounts to “sorry, but let’s talk about Viktor now because I’m so worried about him.” Mel doesn’t really get her feelings in the spotlight in that scene, other than a veiled bitter remark, before she’s comforting Jayce.

idk. I think about the three of them a lot.

#rue rants #arcane #rue writes #Uhh #what to tag #mel medarda #jayce talis #arcane viktor #I look insane to all my non arcane moots rn

[perfectlywingedsilco]

It’s wild to think that I intially thought Jayce was the hottest guy in Arcane. Oh, the follies of youth...

On a more serious note, I like how these two got to have this scene. They’re like the two sides of the same coin. Mirror opposites, even in their clothing and character design.

Jayce. A classic hero in both looks and bearing. Beloved and blessed. Saved by the divine hand of magic. Driven by a boyish belief in noble ideals and his own agency. Knows its his destiny to lead. And his youthful arrogance lets him be easily seduced by the corrupting allure of power and be used in its political gaming.

Silco. An anti-hero shaped by countless traumas. Saved by nothing and no one except himself. Driven by the greatest injustice of all - that he will never be the hero, not even in his own story. He’s a tainted visionary doomed to live in the shadow of his nobler dreams. His successes are achieved in spite of destiny. He exists to piss off fate by refusing to take anything lying down. And he’s incorruptible, because there’s nothing left to corrupt.

Together, these two bookend the spectrum of power and illustrate what it means to have self-belief. Where it can take a character, to believe so much in their own story. And I love that the show gave us that.

#silco #jayce #arcane #don't mind me #happy rant #arcane analysis

[machineheraldandy]

I’m here to rant honestly// arcane fandoms issues with stereotypes/mischaracterising/harming minorities

The arcane fandom has a huge issue with mischaracterising and just other issues, issues that affect many minorities

I recently got in drama with a very popular arcane artist that will remain unnamed due to this very reason.

I think the arcane fandom needs to remember that they are fandom with real people in it and that they can affect, absolutely harm real people with their words, actions, artwork, headcanons, fanfics, etc.

So I’m going to go into the Jayce/viktor side of things, this is not going into other characters otherwise I’ll be here all week

Stereotypes:

Jayce: Jayce is very well known in arcane to be possibly Hispanic, and the fandom took this as a chance to make him a Hispanic stereotype, specifically a sterotype of Latinos (Hispanic men). To the point they have completely mischaracterised Jayce to be something he isn’t. They make him highly se/ual (not sure if I can say that word here lol) aggressive, dumb, etc, all parts of the Latino stereotype. And it’s so weird? Jayce is aggressive once. Once. And that’s in the shimmer factory scene, and even then he regrets it straight away. He absolutely hates what he has done. Dumb doesn’t even make sense as he’s a top inventor/scientist, yes he can be seen dumb social wise due to the fact he doesn’t really like people, and is easily manipulated, but calling him dumb cause he’s a manipulation victim doesn’t sit right with me. Specially as a victim of ab/se, that was manipulated, am I meant to be consider dumb? For being a victim? And yes you can take Jayce as being se/ual cause of the scene of him and Mel but even then he isn’t shown to be that se/ual! Mels the one that starts it. How is this so harmful? Because it puts down a harmful stereotype, that affects real people!

Viktor: viktor is taken as a trans stereotype (even though he isn’t a canon transgender person, it’s a very popular headcanon) he is pushed onto the s/x work ideals, the hyper-sexuality, the constant making him a bottom, the constant making him extremely feminine, and a Twink. Don’t get me wrong you can see him as a bottom, but if you see him as trans, when you are cis, and do these things…big issue. These things come from fetishing trans masc people, it’s very wrong.

Viktor again: for his disability he gets stereotyped as always needing people, always needing people, dying to a point he isn’t. Look as a disabled person you need to understand…how this hurts me and so many other disabled people!! It babies us, makes us seem weak and pathetic, when we aren’t! Please stop

Harmful headcanons

Jayce: Jayce gets seen as viktors caretaker way too much, if you are disable and doing it that’s fine, I love the idea of my best friends/lover being able to care for me, but when you aren’t disabled and do it, it’s seem as babying viktor, making it so he HAS to have help when he doesn’t need it. Another harmful headcanon is that Jayce is ableist for not wanting to care for viktor 24/7, that is so harmful to us disabled people as it once again forced the idea we need to be babied. Viktor is a full grown man who becomes a cyborg accidental cult leaders he doesn’t need jayces help. He’s shown not needing help from Jayce. The only time he’s shown getting help for his disabilities is when he walks with his cane, ends up in hospital, and then gets shimmer from singed. He doesn’t need a caretaker. Also the idea that Jayce is a r/pist which I’m not even going to go into, you know why that’s bad.

Viktor: I’ve basically talked about the harmful caretaker headcanon already so let me talk about the headcanon he’s a r/pe victim, it’s gross, if you aren’t a victim of SA, stop, it’s a weird way to fetishise him in this community and it needs to stop. To less harmful ones, the idea he’s so much smarter than Jayce, that can be fine but this 98% of the time stems from the Latino stereotype issue, and if it is stemming from that please don’t.

Lgbtqia+ headcanon issues

Viktor: stop saying you can’t ship people with viktor cause you think he’s ace/aro, that is so harmful and harms us ace/aro folk so much, as it’s spreading misinformation! ace/aro people can date and have s/x, we can. It’s a large spectrum. Yes some ace/aro people don’t date at all! But saying someone can’t date just cause they are ace/aro spreads harmful information that caused so many ace/aro folk to get attacked.

Already gone over the trans headcanons, so no more need to talk

Jayce: the whole idea Jayce can’t be transgender because he’s masculine is rooted in transphobia, and needs to be stopped, people can headcanon him as trans (I do!) and it’s fine, trans men can be masculine, they can have deeper voices, they can grown facial hair, they literally can so stop being transphobic!

Also the idea he can’t be a gay man because he dates Mel in arcane is terrible, as one the relationship started through manipulation, two Jayce may not realise he’s gay by then, yes you can headcanon him as bisexual, pansexual etc, but telling people they can’t see him as gay is terrible, them seeing him as gay isn’t rooted in biphobia most of the time, if it is! Call them out all you want! But don’t get mad at people for seeing one of their favs as gay.

Adding onto that don’t get mad at people for headcanoning him as ace/aro, once again ace/aro people can have s/x! They can be in relationships! Saying he can’t be ace/aro is once again spreading false informations

Just all up don’t harass people for their headcanons! Until things get confirmed! If Jayce gets confirmed as bisexual in arcane, get mad at people for removing the rep, if viktor turns out as gay/ace/aro/trans get mad at people for removing that rep! Just don’t get mad unless it’s canon.

Viktors disability:

Saying you didn’t think you’d find a disabled man so attractive is ableist, making fun of the way he runs is rooted in ableism, saying he’ll die from the smallest thing, rooted in ableism, making fun of him for being disabled in any way is ableist. Please stop with this. It actively hurts and makes us disabled people feel unsafe

Autism:

Jayce: people seem to have an issue with him being headcanoned as such and it’s just weird? It’s rooted in ableism and it’s just…gross. Jayce can be taken as autistic because he doesn’t really like people, parties, etc, he’s obsessed with hextech, he has attachment issues with viktor it seems, he doesn’t catch onto some social things, etc. so let us autistic people headcanon him as such

Viktor:just the same. Just reread jayces if you want.

Conclusion

Just all up the arcane fandom has a huge issue, they have affected POC, disabled people, lgbtqia+ people, and probably more minorities groups. This is why a lot of minorities moved away from the arcane fandom, specially jayvik fans who are minorities, due to how disrespectful the arcane fandom is.

I am a part of many of these minorities and it’s caused me to leave arcane more and more over the year it’s been released. Surprisingly sometimes the league of Keegan d community is way better. Of course it’s still bad but the fact it’s way better than arcane? A little weird.

If you’ve accidentally done any of these harmful things without realising and now have learned why they are harmful I’m glad I’ve educated you? I just needed to rant about arcane issues though so I expect people to ignore this or fight with me over this >_<

Im just sick of seeing art, fanfics, headcanons, etc, that are just so harmful that everyone seems to not realise is harmful.

#arcane #rant #ranting #arcane viktor #jayvik #vikjay #arcane Jayce #Jayce Giopara #Jayce talis #viktor tender crisp #machine herald #arcane fandom #issues #vent? #autistic type rant #sorry for ranting so much

[binghe-malewife-goals]

Ngl, one of my pet peeves with Arcane fics is when they make Jayce in like a modern setting not engineer and math smart because like. THATS WHAT HE IS? do you guys think all those equations showed up magically when Viktor appeared.

#counter argument: “but jayce wouldn't have any motivation to go in that field if he didn't meet the mage” #counter argument to that counter argument: LoL Jayce doesnt have any mention of meeting a mage and yet he was still smart asf #he literally complains that no one can match his intellect until viktor comes along #breaking news: yes jayce is smart #emotion-wise? perhaps not entirely but neither is viktor. i mean have you SEEN their LoL counterparts #arcane lol #jayce talis #jayce giopara #mini rant #fanfic pet peeves #jayce arcane

[xxashtreexx]

Darkness

Some days, it wasn't the chronic pain that got to Viktor.

Maybe more accurately, it wasn't the only thing that got to him. The two often coincided, of course, and he was smart enough to see the patterns and also stubborn enough to want to ignore them.

They'd always been with him, the black days. The ones where it was too dark to see through to the other side, even though the other side, as he could deduce, from having done this timelessly, would come.

Here was how it went: There would be a stressful event, usually a deadline, a massive chronic pain flare up, and then, once the whole thing was over, a lull of calm that was shattered by something dark that swallowed all the good things up and left him battered.

That was the only real word to describe it without putting the real word, the real definition, to it.

Viktor didn't want to put the real name to it.

The first really, really bad day had happened a few months after getting to know Jayce, as the cramps in his leg and back had turned into full muscle spasms that left him debilitated until they cleared up, his cane not proper enough to help him get by.

In a strange way, both the pain and the darkness were worse after getting to know Jayce, after beginning to work on their projects; the brightness he felt, he figured, had to come with equal darkness, and he paid for that.

If there was anything to be learned, from living as an undercity child and growing to be a professor's assistant, it was that there were costs, and that they were to be paid in full.

And Viktor always, always paid in full.

It'd come after a particularly sunny day. They'd picnicked in the park, one of the few green places in the Piltover. It was after a particularly stressful week, with deadlines to prove a new idea to the board to continue their funding. And with Jayce's completionist and Viktor's perfectionist attitudes they'd barely finished in time, despite having worked on hundreds of projects within the last few months.

Jayce was clearly trying to get a smile out of Viktor, and he succeeded with a few laughs thrown in, but Viktor could feel that tell-tale gnawing emptiness growing in his chest, the kind that didn't clear up with a smile, the kind that eased with a laugh before returning right after, like a rubber band, snapping back with ruthless efficiency.

"You know," Jayce said thoughtfully, looking at Viktor from the side, laying flat on his back in the grass. "I think we could take a break for a few days."

Viktor blinked, shocked.

"I could take you somewhere," Jayce continued, unaffected except for a slight blush, a little tremble in his voice. "We could go somewhere nice, or come back here at night to look at the stars." He paused, and then turned his head toward Viktor. "We could dance."

Viktor forced himself to laugh. "Careful, Talis, or I might think it's a date."

Jayce said nothing, just returned to looking at the clouds, a little delayed chuckle falling from his lips. "We could do it, though. As partners."

Did Jayce know what he was doing? Was he doing it just to torture him?

"As partners," Viktor murmured, looking up at the blue sky. "Alright."

Jayce straightened. "Alright?"

VIktor nodded, still looking at the sky. "We deserve a break," he said, but his voice was a little uncertain. All his life, not unlike Jayce, they'd been constantly trying to reach for something, a greater goal, something bigger. To take a step back from that, even for a day, felt strange.

"We do," Jayce said. Viktor knew he was probably just trying to minimize the chance of burnout, that he'd taken breaks like this with Caitlyn before, but definitely not with Viktor, and Viktor had never blamed him; they spent all this time cooped up together in a lab, enough time that it would make anyone irritable, a little frustrated.

Viktor didn't get to take that break. Not really, anyway.

He'd woken up the day of their not-date, and felt heavy all over, with the hollowness in his chest that wouldn't let up no matter what he did.

Ah, Viktor thought, stretching. So it was this kind of day.

He made himself a coffee and a bagel while he had the energy, lethargically stared out the window instead of eating, before snapping out of it and mechanically eating until he was finished.

Then, he laid in bed and tried to pretend that it didn't feel like the world was ending. That he wouldn't do anything to escape this feeling, different than the chronic flare ups, because those were about trying to escape his body; this one was about trying to escape his soul, neither better or worse but just different.

Viktor didn't show up to their date, but Jayce was persistent, and knocked softly on his door about an hour after their scheduled meet up time.

"Viktor?" His voice was soft.

"It's open," Viktor called, and tried to ignore how rough he sounded, too.

Jayce let him in quietly, did an audible double-take at the state of his messy studio apartment-style dorm, and Viktor could feel Jayce's eyes when he saw Viktor's form, curled up and facing the wall.

"Migraine?" Jayce asked softly, busying himself around his apartment like he'd always lived there. He nudged Viktor's leg, having returned with water and some crackers.

Those crackers had seen him through a lot, he reflected, mechanically eating it. The worst edge of the heaviness was a little better, but there was also this anxiety to it, like the performance piece was necessary but Viktor just didn't have the energy for it.

"It's not a migraine," he said gruffly, looking away from Jayce, sipping at the water.

"Not a migraine?" Jayce sounded carefully blank, but there was an undercurrent of hurt there. That maybe Viktor might have blown Jayce off.

Viktor reached out his long, thin fingers to curl around Jayce's wrists. "I couldn't. I wanted to."

Jayce blew out a confused breath, blushing a little at Viktor's touch. "Couldn't?" Viktor could tell how much he hated the echo, how much Jayce wanted to be in control here, to make things better.

"I feel." Viktor hated this. "Stuck." He drank the last of the water and put it on the floor, putting the remaining crackers there too.

Jayce swept him up into a tight hug, and the hollowness eased some. "It's okay," Jayce said. "I'll take care of things until you're free."

Viktor hesitantly returned the embrace. I'll be there tomorrow stuck in his throat, because all of this hadn't been this bad for a long time, and he didn't know when he could be back.

A part of him wondered if there even was a way of coming back from this darkness.

"I'll be here," Jayce promised, and tears leaked behind Viktor's eyelids, the kind of tears that were invisible and Jayce would never, could never see.

Jayce seemed to feel it anyway. They sat like that for a long time, before Jayce pulled away, embarrassed, but still determined. "Go to sleep. I'll be here until you're no longer awake, and I'll let myself out."

Jayce hummed as he went about the apartment, sitting somewhere else in the dark. It loosened the worst of the tension in Viktor's muscles, and then he was asleep, halfway between one lullaby and another.

Jayce kept his promise, with an added bonus: He helped tidy the rest of the room, left more crackers and water, with a little note:

Take as much time as you need, Vik. -Jayce

#definitely not a rant #or me complaining about my irl issues #couldn't be me #arcane #jayce league of legends #jayvik #viktor league of legends #jayce talis #arcane jayce #arcane viktor #jayce arcane #viktor arcane #mutual pining

[awkwardducks]

One thing that kind of annoys me in the arcane fandom, and you may argue with me on this, is all of the people who think Jayce is an idiot.

I’ve seen so many people say things like “oh but Jayce is stupid he would” it’s kind of annoying cause he’s a scientist yknow. It’s not like Viktor is working on hextech alone.

#rant #jayce talis #jayce arcane #viktor arcane

[wonkawinka]

i have tried posting my blog intro 500 times i swear its not working AGHSHEUDHDH

anyways im working on chapter two of we’ll meet again if anyone cares 😞😞🎀🎀

#jayce’s rants #hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel spoilers

[arklayraven]

Solomon and MC!Jayce playlist. (Will be updated often possibly.)

Made this just to vent out the feelings lol. Will add more music to this later whenever I find a song that reminds me of them.

#;little raven speaks #a healthier way to cope with shit than go on a long ranting mode again. #anyway gonna try to sleep now lol #obey me #obey me solomon #obey me mc #;mc jayce

[dastardlydumb]

Sometimes in arcane there are scenes where I think Jayce thinks of Viktor as some sort of extension of himself. They are partners with the same dream after all and I guess sharing your life’s work with someone sorta builds that bond. But the scene that leads me to think of that, is actually the scene where Jayce tells the council he doesn’t give a shit about what any of them think, except for Mel. And while it was no doubt directed at the council members I always think “ouch dude Viktor is like right there man.”

Then I start to think about the other stuff where Jayce effectively replaced heimerdinger as Viktor’s safety net in Piltover when he voted heimerdinger into retirement. It was done out of a desperate attempt to stop heimerdinger from destroying the hexcore which Jayce thinks of as potentially the only chance to save Viktor from dying. But it leaves Viktor without the support he had from heimerdinger when he first arrived in piltover.

Another thing that comes to mind is something that is likely to have mayor consequences for Viktor down the line, which I don’t really see a lot of people talk about. It’s the scene where Mel takes Jayce to the opera and tells him about all the councils dirty secrets and where Jayce might end up accidentally erasing Viktor’s earned title of hextech partner by offering it up to anyone willing to invest in hextech. He invalidates it by turning it into a title you can buy. Which if looked at on paper, would just make Viktor into one name amongst many (or the first of many) essentially erasing the 7 years of work which Viktor put into helping Jayce realize his dream.

And that’s the thing because we are specifically told by Mel that Jayce has the potential to realize that dream him and Viktor worked on “bring hextech to the masses” and all that. But he doesn’t because of Viktor, he’s told he can accomplish his dream and he goes “but first I have to save Viktor” it looks to me like Jayce’s priorities have changed so drastically because he puts the people closest to him first.

And that’s where I think Viktor and Jayce’s dream have diverged because Viktor doesn’t care what happens to him personally as long as he can realize the dream or make some kind of mark that says he existed and he made a difference. Which is ironically a very human notion considering what he turns himself into to ensure this outcome.

Going back to the first topic on Jayce thinking of Viktor as an extension of himself is on the bridge where he forgets where Viktor is from because he just doesn’t associate Viktor with all the things that the undercity is in his mind. Viktor gets angry and corrects him and Jayce immediately apologizes and says he’s right but it seems like a half genuine response like yes he’s sorry but i can’t tell if he’s sorry he made Viktor mad or if he’s sorry he showed such prejudice. Either way Viktor seems to forgive him but it creates a rift of distrust that makes Viktor decide to lie to Jayce and simply go on with the experiments himself. This is something that certainly sticks to the mind because it’s so dramatic and it’s the first time we see the two argue. It’s actually one of my favorite scenes.

My point is that it makes me think of that one comic where Jayce referred to Viktor as his other half in the sense of two gearwheels that fit together perfectly that I can’t seem to find.

#anybody seen it? #I think it was like a wild rift thing released in china #arcane jayce #arcane viktor #this has been a midnight rant texted on a phone #dastardly rants #arcane #i mostly make these to shake off the warped fan versions of the arcane characters #fans inevitably will make their own content during periods of no content and said content tends to be projecting #or funny shit idk either way it’s good to refresh yourself with the original content

[redbirb-of-fandoms]

Is there someone who wants to talk about Arcane????? I didn't have time to watch it when it came out and now nobody's into it anymore.

#pls I'm begging #I wanna rant about Silco #and Sevika #and Viktor #Silco #Viktor #Jinx #Vi #Jayce #Sevika #arcane #arcane show #viktor arcane #silco arcane #jinx arcane

[sableghost]

don’t get me wrong i love sports but it sucks to be reminded that most popularized forms of it are just business decisions at its core with little regard for the Real people involved 🙃

#yes this is about #f1 #lol #i think the thing w motorsports is that. there is little room for the human aspect of it despite how media wants to frame things #it’s inherently hypercapitalist bc what other sport is so okay with being a walking billboard? #sure sponsors are an unfortunate necessity bc everything=$$$ these days #but i remember the outcry when the nhl introduced literal PATCHES to their jerseys lmfao #idk i’m going on a tag rant here but the situation w nyck and dan has me so:/ #jayce alert

[vhvrs]

im genuinely confused, why refer to a character you 'made' trans with she/her pronouns?

i say 'made' because they seem like OCs that use league lore?

im asking out of genuine curiosity, sorry if this is mean

its a fair question, no worries!

its... kinda hard to explain and i haven't prior bc while i use she/her (and they/them) for my vik, i generally dont care nor want to tell anyone what to refer to them as bc the original point of my viktor was that they do not clarify their pronouns or gender bc they dont care. i just... kindve went off on my own thing a bit lol.

so that's one reason ig?

my academy viktor is also intended to be this really tricky period where they know they arent cis but arent willing nor in a space to explore it further than through jayce. she/her has a level of safety when coming fully out is scary and, again, dont really want to think abt it too hard. on top of her only real means of exploring being trans being through jayce alone in their dorm n hes already seeing them as transmasc despite presentation and pronouns so a need to explore further isnt really a priority.

another reason that trying to deconstruct the gender behind certain things like pronouns can just feel really good. she/her can be feminine or it can be masculine or it can be neither! viktor and jayce have that understanding n i mean me as the guy behind it does too lol. (n my mh using it is just extending that safety n gendervoid further now that they have a body they feel more comfortable in and can wear that she/her w a sort of pride? something thats now hers to do with whatever and bc by then most ppl default to he/they so she/her becomes something no longer normative and able to become unattached to their afab. she can weaponize she/her now in a way they only got to test out as pre-herald?)

another, another reason is tldr i was a really awkward she/they transmasc when i first came out n it feels good to explore what that felt like through viktor, you know? (that was my original intention for her at all actually...) n get more comfortable in still being a kindve gnc they/he through a character who took their afab scenerio to the furtherest it can go and let it remain a valid agender thing. that kindve tints a lot of why i do that i guess + being in very... genderfuckery free for all spaces where this stuffs just very normal.

i usually tend to go out here to a certain extent with characters i relate to or like ie making them nonbinary, changing pronouns, and presentations (making them into ocs rip not denying the oc with league paintover allegations) this is just an extra step for me personally to have a safe, contained space to explore gender stuff myself... its a nice feeling to have created a scenerio where she/her doesnt void being transmasc/agender or can... idk enhance it even?? idk im not trying to reflect the nauces of reality rn im just trying to have fun.

this is v long winded bc im tired n felt this needed a proper explanation so. thank you if you understand this and i appreciate you asking bc id rather ppl just ask vs possibly get more confused not knowing my intentions n mindset. take care ♡

#me when i drop this horribly ooc thing tomorrow #sorry sorry #but yeah idm answering questions abt stuff im doing like this i understand ppl arent orivy to the wheels churning/my 4am private twt rants #also just enjoy gender play n the scenerios vik n jayce can end up in bc of them #also ngl she/they discourse was frankly really disrespectful n annoying last yr in a way that made me reflect on being a former one #n tyen boom viktor.

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As an aro person, seeing jayvik is really getting on my nerves

Just hear me out

When I watched arcane I really liked Jayce’s and Viktors relationship. It’s professional, it’s intimate, it’s that specific type of love you have for someone that just gets you and its muddied with the disconnection they have in other things, like their upbringing, politics which is something that creates this barrier between them, it’s this one small for them but ultimately always in the background thing that will eventually drive them apart - I genuinely love it

It’s also platonic.

Viktor had an objectively kinda shitty childhood, not being able to play with younger kids, growing up misunderstood for his genius, being seen as a “cripple from the undercity” later on, even if he became assistant to the dean of Piltover’s best academy, he probably never had anyone close in his life (not talking abt his parents cause they weren’t mentioned in arcane). He deserves a friend

Viktor and Jayce click, they finally found an equal that operates on the same wavelength, has the same goal in life and is a great work partner. They themselves are great and fun characters, and they have this amazing story line and relationship I love them really

So I wanted to read fanfics about them and then I found jayvik.

I was honestly appalled by it, really just being angry at the fandom for this ship being seemingly everywhere. But I’m someone who doesn’t want to judge so I’ve read a few fanfics and altho they are imo all extremely out of character, the stories themselves are greatly written and stand on their own.

I don’t have an issue with jayvik, I myself like it for comedy

But there’s literally barely anything not jayvik related and it really makes me depressed, cause I feel like a lot of people (not everyone obv) ship them cause friendship “isn’t enough”.

All aromantics can probably agree that it’s really disheartening how often this happens, how it’s a socially accepted truth that romantic love is above friendship and that’s just simply not true. Friendship, true actual friendship, aka someone willing to sacrifice anything for you, kill for you, die for you, they are your ride or die, they’ll always have your back, they are there for you for when you’re broken and when youre at your best, they pick you up, they are the reason you want to be better - is absolutely equal to romantic love.

The thing is, it’s just as much effort to acquire as love, because it is exactly that, it’s just a different kind of love, but people think that it’s for some reason a given. As if friendship is obvious and meaningless and only love is what matters. And this just hurts to see. I see it irl all the time and I see it especially in fandoms.

How many fanfics do you see or two characters being friends? They may be in the background, but usually it’s all just romance, sex, drama, it’s exhausting and after some time heartbreaking, cause it feels like someone is taking that beautiful thing, that platonic love, and basically spitting in your face that it’s boring and meaningless

I understand that people can ship characters for fun and that’s fine it’s just that I sometimes wish that we could see platonic relationships on the same level as romantic and this is just another example of that

And if the writers are gonna ship them because fans want it I’m going to cry no joke, cause it’s just another slap in the face of how we can’t have intimate friendships without it being romantic

This was just me ranting at literally 4 in the morning

#arcane #arcane meta #aromantic #aromance #arcane rant #arcane viktor #viktor and jayce #arcane Jayce

[machineheraldandy]

arcane jayce rant (Jayce haters dni/srs)

You ever see someone say something so stupid that rage builds up so much in you that you want to break something? Yeah that’s happening to me now with downright pathetic Jayce haters, who didn’t watch the show right and completely ignored everything he did so they can make him the villain.

Jayce background money wise

Jayce is a middle class citizen in Piltover who also may be an immigrant due to the childhood scene we have of him, though that’s just a theory and he may originally be from Piltover (we aren’t going off of league lore here as arcane isn’t canon), his family has a small business that was in no way wealthy or high class, it was by all means a SMALL business, many middle class people have small businesses, it can also be seen he isn’t wealthy by the fact his mother doesn’t wear wealthy clothes, he needs a patron for his word, and their house is noticeably small, even when working on hextech (legally) he still needs helps from others and it’s obviously it is most likely coming from hemigerdinger and Mels money, specially Mel as she sees this as a money maker and was the first counseller to defend Jayce.

Jayce inventions: what they are for

Other than this Jayce makes inventions, inventions he makes to help EVERYONE, his intent isn’t to sell them to the rich, Mel’s goal is that, she’s the one that wants profit money wise, Jayce wants profit Health/building/people wise, he wants to see a change, he wants to help people involve and to make progress, he spends his time working with a zaunite, after spending his time before hand going in and out of Zaun (ekko ‘little man’ confirms this when he talks about conning him) Jayce was aware of how Zaun was and it is made clear he doesn’t fear the people and wants to help them (until Mel convinces him otherwise). He spends his time helping viktor, a Zaun citizen. Even going as far as to kick hemigerdinger off the counsel to allow viktor to continue his research so viktor can find a way to live, showing he does not care for profit, but for helping his friend. And at the end of the show going as far as to vote for Zaun to be it’s own nation, under its own ruler as he believe Piltover is only doing it harm and can’t help it the way it needs to be helped. And after realising due to the bridge scene with him and viktor that him and the counsel members can’t properly help if he is being manipulated to hate them and if the counsel members do hate them.

At no point is he stated to care about profit UNLESS it helps him in his inventions directly which he wants to help people, the only reason it’s sold to rich people would be because of MEL, not because of Jayce

The issue

Some twitter users and tik tok users and…other users like to think of Jayce as the transph0bic, probably racîst, ablìst, abvser ELON MUSK. They say he is runeterras Elon musk, just ignore people like renata exist, or swain, no it’s Jayce, Jayce the middle class citizen not born into wealth that pukes at the sight of violence and refuses to keep fighting for what “is right” because of accidentally killing a kid. Even after being told it’s just part of the job.

They compare Jayce to a man born into wealth due to corruption that continued to be corrupt and destroys the planet while agreeing with terrible people and even being friends with terrible people.

Straight up this is misunderstanding a character and giving them a role they don’t have from pure hatred and not understanding the show, they take a character that is meant to be “morally grey” and turn him into an evil business man that cares for no one but himself

And keep doing so after people state it makes them uncomfortable, this post is legit due to someone saying he’s Elon musk to someone that blocks Jayce haters, they said this under a post about not liking Jayce haters, directly breaking boundaries basically.

Update: this person is doubling down

Rant is done, but you can look at who started this lol:

#jayce league of legends #jayce arcane #jayce giopara #jayce talis #Jayce talis rant #ranting #rant #mischaracterization #mischaracterising #arcane #league of legends #arcane fandom #arcane jayce #arcane fandom sucks #can arcane fans stop being so mean to Jayce for 0 reason #Jayce defender #Jayce talis defender #Jayce talis was written to be middle class #literally look at the writers note that say he is middle classed #Elon musk sucks #Jayce is innocent #you people suck #Jayce haters can suck his trans cat you know what I mean #Jayce isn’t evil he just gets manipulated #Jayce cares for viktor #Jayce literally would kill for a Zaun citizen I’m just saying