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hungharrington · 11 months
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So uh in continuation of our Steve insane thoughts™️ I really want him to lay on top of me. Just fully on top. Heavy. Hefty. Hiding all of my problems with those shoulders. Sigh
YESYESYES absolutely. first time he does it, he’s a little unsure because he doesn’t want to crush you- you’re waving him over, slumped on his bed and a bit exhausted, and ur just like patting your chest for him to come lie and he’s all ??? tilting his head like a puppy and you give a little sigh and murmur quietly, “can you… come lie on me?” and he’s like oh! “yeah honey, of course i’ll come lie with you,” wandering over to the bed but he pauses at the side of the bed when you’re like “no, no. not with me, on me.” and then he’s bursting into are you sure and won’t i crush you? and you just coax him down, like “i wouldn’t ask if i didn’t want it. i just need,” you give a big sigh, avoiding his eyes as you think bout the hard week you’ve had. “just need all things to be steve right now,” you decide on, finally meeting his eyes and steve has got a bit of an awed look of fondness on his face, a grace of a smile and then he’s climbing on and sinking on top of you and you get to hide your face into his shoulder and wrap your arms around him and hold and when he asks, “s’this good?” you can only hope he can hear all of your love in you tiny little mmhmm - but he kisses you on your head, gentle and sweet, so you think he probably does :’)
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bonefall · 17 days
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I personally like Thunder's prosthetic. Explained it to my friend (who does use a mobility device, a cane and wheelchair, and listens to me rant and infodump about BB) and they agreed, it's important to know that not every person needs what someone wants to give them. It's another example of "bad ableist person does a thing that hurts a disabled person because they are bad and ableist".
Clear Sky got Jagged Peak killed and would have killed Sunlit Frost! He would absolutely force his disabled son to be "normal" and present it like a privilege. "I wouldn't do this for anyone else, it's special, why don't you want to be helped?"
Thunder Storm should toss it in Clear Sky's face. (I would say toss it into the river but we do not pollute waterways in this house)
Thank you for telling me this, and tell your friend I'm thanking them too! If they have anything else to add please forward what they have to say
Since BB!DOTC tackles some of the heaviest topics in the entire series because its canon equivalent is so dark, I think very carefully about what I do here and how I show it. I take feedback on its sensitive aspects very seriously. If I'm understanding the criticism properly, it's that I should avoid stigmatizing prosthetics by making sure Thunder Storm's not the only one with it-- which he's not! And I'll add even more.
I don't want to avoid something only because it's uncomfortable if the topic is important, and my portrayal is respectful. Ableism IS uncomfortable! There are some situations where a prosthetic is not wanted! I think the rejection of this particular one is both a good opportunity to show a type of ableism and ALSO is very fitting for the characters.
In BB!Clear Sky's mind, the villain, he's fixing an old mistake. He can't admit that he got Jagged Peak killed or take REAL accountability for it (though he will, occasionally, apologize insincerely), but deep in his bones, he knows what he did was cruel. He'll never tell anyone this because he doesn't really cognate it himself, but Thunder Storm NEEDS to take his gift.
If Thunder doesn't take it, it blows a hole in his newest story. You see, throwing Jagged Peak out was All That Could Have Been Done back then. It was a Tragedy and he simply Made A Hard Choice. He regrets it very much, But You Have To Understand.
But now? Now? Well, behold. Look at what he's accomplished since the tragic death of his little brother. His cats are well-fed, cared for, and stable enough to make such incredible advancements. If only Jagged Peak had been able to hold on longer, if only he could be here now, I could fix him.
Just like I can (MAKE YOU JUST LIKE ME) fix you.
"Everything I've ever done is for Jagged Peak. For Fluttering Wing. For you." Thunder Sky is SPECIAL, but if he rejects any gift, tries to turn down the "privileges" offered to him, in an instant that becomes ungratefulness and arrogance. He both forces him to be special, and then leverages it against him if it's rejected. "Spoiled brat, doesn't appreciate what I've worked so hard to give him."
It all goes back to him and his own guilt. He can NEVER be wrong. He can't accept his family doesn't have to be "normal" or reflect his own ability. He won't see himself as a bully, let alone a murderer. It was never about his son's comfort or finding out what Thunder Storm wants or needs, it was about his own ego.
...All that said I'm still taking feedback if there's anything else I should keep in mind, or if anyone has a counter point, especially if you also have experience here.
(In the interest of having a link trail for posterity, here's the critique/call for feedback this is in response to)
#ALSO also I will take suggestions on other characters who should have prosthetics#Sunlit makes sense and it will make a really nice character moment later for him to have one built#There's also an amputee in RiverClan few people talk about called Stonestream#I can give him one and bump him up into a bigger character. In BB he is the sibling of Willowshine#BB!DOTC#better bones au#Also just as a side note... I love writing BB!Skystar. My ire for the character comes from his redemption arc so I feel like I get to--#--write the character I WANTED to see#Same with Bramble in other BB arcs#cw ableism#tw ableism#ableism#They're fascinating in that they always have to see themselves as the victim or the hero#They believe every lie they tell.#If you ever catch them in a contradiction they will still try to find some way to turn it on you and YOUR lack of understanding.#Interestingly both of them are ableist. Sky's is just more obvious because he's LOUDLY bigoted.#But BB!Bramble is *notably* less close to Jay for a very sad and very subtle reason.#Jay just doesn't serve his ego like the others do until much later in his life.#unfortunately most bigotry is like that.#the type you have a hard time calling out because it's a deniable bias. the constant gaslighting of being part of a marginalized group#Maybe I need to address the criticism by adding a character with a prosthetic to THIS arc even earlier#Problem is that like... Thunder's small merc group is already full of disabled characters and their THING is forming in response to ableism#OH maybe I'll put someone in the Forest Cat group which is lead by Slash?#I need to finish that last book and then gather up all the cats for sorting into allegiances
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duusheen · 5 months
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In the best version of reality we would get a Flash storyline wherein the Justice League, the Titans, Young Justice and every other superhero is mind controlled except for the speedsters. With the entire might of DC greatest hunting them down the speedsters have a dumb idea. A very very dumb idea.
See, speedsters are able to control what age they are and, while only Bart and Jay have ever seriously messed around with that ability, they need a wildcard move that won't be predictable.
What would a bunch of mind controlled superheroes not expect? What would immediately mark them as not a threat and allow them to sneak around in plain sight?
They disguise themselves as middle schoolers.
Jay and Barry get lucky. No one knew them as children and they aren't really recognizable as children so they get away with being 12.
Wally, Bart and Ace not so much. Half of the superhero community knew these three as children so they are forced to go even younger to be unrecognizable. All three settle on 6 because they refuse to compromise their ability to run.
The plan is to sneak into a class trip touring the Hall of Justice and then sneak away from the group to 'go to the bathroom'. The bathrooms are right above the Halls boiler room so then all they would have to do is vibrate through the floor and bam! They're through security undetected and have access to Hall.
What they don't take into consideration is that A) while Wally, Bart and Ace are used to being on high stakes missions as a child, Jay and Barry are not, Barry's on the verge of an anxiety attack and Jay CAN'T LIE B) as children none of them had the same control over their speed or their focus, which becomes very apparent when all five of them get so wrapped up in a pokemon battle that they don't notice Wonder Woman taking over the tour and, most importantly, C) Wally couldn't vibrate through objects without blowing them up until he was an adult.
They relearn that last one the hard way when the bathroom floor explodes and the Hall immediately goes into lock down.
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sophiethewitch1 · 1 month
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the thing about writing the batboys in love w one reader is just that they're always 100% ready to square down. even dicks putting up his fists its just a full on brawl everyday of the week
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boyfridged · 1 year
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Do you agree that Jason, as written by Winnick in UTRH and Lost Days, acts out of character post-resurrection if we take into account his post-crisis robin days? If yes, how would you have him act/react to stuff after he comes back from the dead?
tldr: i definitely agree. moreover, classism plays a huge role in it, and i don’t think that at this point the storyline could lose these implications, which makes trying to conceive what an “in character” (for robin jay) version of these events would be quite difficult. 
let’s just start from saying that i don't think it's a secret that i don't really like winick in general. despite his work being mad interesting on a conceptual level (and style-wise, genuinely well written!), he has no love for the characters he writes about. 
imo utrh shouldn't even ever make it into the mainstream batman timeline. i am aware that this is a radical opinion, but my take is that it would do best as an elseworld story (and in this version too it would need some tweaks here and there), because it made damage both to the mythos of batman and jason's legacy that can never be undone. the very premise of the story is so deeply disconnected from jay's original place in the narrative, and so classist at its roots, that there's not much room to truly fix it. 
(i want to say, preemptively, that i am aware that there are people who read utrh as a story of a revolutionary and a victim – and they have the right to do so, but ngl, my view has always been that it was never written as that. utrh reinforces so many stereotypes that it overshadows the revenge tragedy spirit of it all.) 
another disclaimer is that, to be honest, jay doesn't have a very consistent characterization even in his 80s run, and it also has some classist implications that ideally should be either erased or addressed in the text (that winick instead exaggerated and put at the very front of his storytelling.) starlin's writing is, at the end of the day and very much ironically, more sympathetic and gentler in evaluating jay (simply because at the time he would not get away with changes too blatant) but details such as jay saying that "all life is game" and his random nonchalant behaviour that has its origin in the very beginning of starlin’s run are already signs of it. some readers will trace jason's arrogance prevalent in his red hood era to these issues and say that his actions post-res are therefore a logical extension of his robin days, but i don't buy it. even if you want to lean into starlin-esque characterisation, if you consider the core problem of the garzonas plotline – which is power, jay shouldn’t look into the solution of anything in climbing to the top. and if he did, it would have to be written as a “becoming what you feared/hated most” kind of story, which i can see a certain appeal in (and which would at least acknowledge that it was not his initial personality), but which would go back to its classist assumption of cycles of violence and doomed fates.
so – how to make his post-res era more accurate to his post-crisis robin days (and least classist in the process)?
if we were to follow my fav iterations of his characterisation (barr’s detective comics and the ntt appearances) tbh I don’t think a lot would happen, because his personality is quite mild, and just so hopeful there that i wouldn’t expect any extreme actions from him – but then again, the circumstances that he finds himself in post-res, the trauma, and his sensitivity do warrant grief that should become a driving force in his life from now on. the question is, what to do with this grief as a plot device?
i know that plenty of jason fans hate this take but I actually think the concept of jason trying to be detached and cruel but being bad at it might be one of the least offensive to his 80s characterisation. it’s def not accurate to pre-52 canon (apart from countdown perhaps) but imo for jay to be authentic and nuanced he should be conflicted about his own actions. his overconfident behaviour should be a pose – just as his frantic acts in his origin story as robin were. (again, something that many readers don't take notice of – but reading the rest of collins' writing wherein jay quickly settles into being easy-going and even a bit shy is proof of it.)
these two points lead to the “no good deed” narrative that I often talk about - the reading that jason saw his intuitive and self-sacrificial kind tendencies as something that brought him pain and that never was quite efficient, and that post-res he intentionally tried training himself out of. there are some flashes of it here and there throughout the years of the red hood publishing history, but it never got a true spotlight. and if i were to write lost days, jason flinching at his own violence would be a focal point of the story. 
moving on to utrh; i have spoken about it at length before but I think if he were written 1. with more political sensitivity 2. to have retained the same maturity re: the social order 3. to have the same idea of morality, he should have followed more of actual revolutionary tracks and the whole “drug lord” authoritarian figure schtick along with the idiotic idea of “controlling crime” would have to be thrown out of the window. 
and, later on, forgiveness should play a big role in his story. he's so quick to forgive and justify everyone in his robin run – this is also why i reckon his team up with harvey in tfz was a wasted opportunity.
so, in conclusion – perhaps not that much would have to change re: his actions but definitely a lot should change regarding his emotional journey and his position. i would def throw out a lot of mindless violence and power posturing out of it though. and perhaps make him a bit more polite just for the sake of more consistency (this is not me taking a moral stance btw nor tone policing a fictional character. i just think it would be more faithful to his 80s writing unless you want to make him explicitly scared. and it would be funnier tbh.)
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msfcatlover · 1 year
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I see your “Jay Peters is Jason’s most common alias (because it’s funny,)” headcanons, and raise you:
James “Jamie” Graves.
Because Jason thinks it’s funny.
#Jason todd#jason wayne#jason peter todd#red hood#red hood jason#red hood jason todd#red hood!jason#red hood!jason todd#mine#my writing#//#First rule of an alias is: You want a name whose first sound is close enough to your own that you’ll respond easily (and cover your ass#if you react to the ‘’wrong’’ name where anyone can see.)#Second rule is: Too bland sounds more suspicious than too specific (but don’t ever be too specific.)#Third is: You’re never gonna sell it if you can’t comfortably wear the name.#James is extremely bland. Having a nickname makes it more personable but Jamie can be a nickname for literally dozens of things#ironically making it more forgettable. Graves isn’t a name you see every day but it’s not one that grabs the eye or sticks in the mind#just ordinary enough#Jason can react to the ‘’Jay’’ syllable no problem and the morbid joke of a last name makes it easy to remember/respond to.#He hears someone call ‘’Graves’’ and immediately goes ‘’Yeah that’s me.’’ Like he’s had a lifetime of practice.#(Invented this for a fic that’ll probably never exist; Jason was doing pre-RH recon in Gotham and this was his cover.#Jamie’s a self-taught art student doing odd jobs for cash. Tim spots him at a local cafe and is like ‘’JASON?!?!’’#Tim investigates. Jason accidentally becomes Tim’s friend while trying to gather information. Jason doesn’t realize Tim’s recognized him.#Tim thinks Jamie Graves is either a runaway clone or Jason with amnesia. Then UtRH starts and Tim realizes Jamie’s the Red Hood.#Things spiral from there.#)
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un-pearable · 6 months
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illadvisedly been reading LU fic again and boy has the fic scene only gotten weirder about the leader thing
#the core conceit is that these are all singularly competent and accomplished heroes#awkwardly forced to work together and collaborate#the whole idea that time is ~ obviously the leader ~ is such boring nonsense#like Yeah i can see why it would shake out that way in the comic but in these fics people straight up take it as far as time outright orderi#ordering people around and being honestly mean. and it’s written off as ‘well obviously they’d all listen to him’#and like. okay for 1) with the exclusion of four all of these guys did their adventures independently. ft. fun sidekicks sure but they are#incredibly skilled individual fighters and experienced travelers#2) uh. nothing about time other than him arbitrarily being the oldest (bc jojo thought it would be more interesting - he never appears at#this age in canon) would make him an inherently better leader. he isn’t even the most experienced out of any of them#NOTORIOUSLY the hero of time is one of the youngest and wrapped up his heroism by the age of 12#if anything either warriors or four would be the best to formally lead (literal military captain and Guy Who’s Whole Adventure Was About#Teamwork). and 3) i don’t even really care about any of 2 i just think they don’t NEED a single leader like this much less that they would#pick one. they’re all stubborn little shits. they’ve got there little cliches and generally all like each other but fundamentally links are#just. not the type to fall in line in a hierarchy.#the best take on the leader problem in fic is usually ‘yeah whoever’s world this is is in charge to get us somewhere safe 👍’ and like#group consensus. i Get the level of respect time gets as ‘leader’ in the comic but fic wayyyyy over extends it (as a result of the scope#being bonkers bigger) but sincerely i think it’s incredibly stupid and ooc to write them as falling in line behind a Single Guy regardless#of which guy it is. and let’s be real it’s only time bc ocarina of time is the single most influential zelda game#idk. jay’s LUposting while halfway through an assignment again 👍#text✨#admittedly yes you do need someone to make Final Decisions on things. that is not the way most fics write time though#(to his and EVERYONE ELSE’S detriment. stop making people boring. let them fight about what they’re going to do more. time would be waymore)#interesting if people actually address the whole ‘he’s the oldest so he’s in charge’ thing as it really is: everyone mistaking him for Super#Skilled And Talented when he’s spent the 30 years since he killed ganon farming in the middle of nowhere. and he’s just like haha yeah sure!#i definitely know how to coordinate 9 fighters with distinct fighting styles ! i can do that! <- guy who sends his wife on market trips bc#he grew up in a forest of like 5 total children and still thinks normal human adults are weird
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limon-rat · 2 months
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wait you said its a DR au? Does that mean he lost his leg after the merge event? I gotta know what he was doing then-
He did! I'll probably have to go back and remind myself of the details, but he actually lost his leg after the Merge. Granted, it was within a few weeks, but I can't quite remember the details, unfortunately. He crashed not too far off from Ninjago City, landing in the Sea of Sands within view of both the Crossroads and Imperium. He avoided Imperium entirely and just tried to get back to the city.
Eventually, over the years, he tumbled his way into leading an underground cult and sort of refugee camp. Lost wanders, displaced children, and people who generally didn't like the lack of rule in the Crossroads joined him.
Unfortunately, a key part of all of this was that he and Cole crashed in close proximity to each other and actually had each other in the years after the merge, so I'm still working on what I want to do to fix this (I mostly don't want to exclude Geo and the lost kids as characters because I adore them all <3) but I'll keep working on that, so keep an eye out!
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aromanticbuck · 2 years
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an essay in stars part 2 of champagne problems
Summary: For Connor’s birthday, all he really wants is to spend the day with the people he cares about. And that’s exactly what he gets.
Warnings: mention of death in the abstract, allusions to sexual situations but nothing on-page
Words: 5,062
established Rhodestead, birthday fic, background spoiled rich boy!Mouse, pure fluff
Sneak Peek:
The sun streaming through the open curtains made him frown, the light trying to steal away what sleep he was clinging to. Between the warm bed, the familiar scents around him, and the pleasant ache in his muscles from the night before, the last thing that Will wanted to do was move, even if the bed had emptied in the time he'd been asleep. That was to be expected, really, with how solidly he slept in that apartment, with those arms around him, with all of the things he'd gotten used to since the start of their relationship.
When he'd moved back home from New York, the last thing he expected to find was a boyfriend. But, really, he hadn't even been looking. The perfect man had come rolling into the emergency department, on a gurney, barking out orders from atop a patient like he owned the place. It hadn't been immediate, the connection they had, but it had been present, waiting for one or both of them to get their heads out of their asses. And, eventually, they did, even if it had taken a few reckless decisions, an argument in an elevator, and a whiskey-fueled hook up to get them there.
The destination was more than worth the journey.
"No... 'm still sleeping..." He let out a whine and rolled over so his back would be to the window, blocking the sun with his own body. Whether he wanted to or not, he was going to be fully awake in a few minutes, thanks to the very boyfriend who was crawling up onto the mattress again to shift the bed. "Connor..."
[ read the rest on ao3 ]
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littlemissaddict · 1 year
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I have a whole Eddie x Single Mom!Reader series planned out in my head and I'm going crazy trying to get it all down before I get bored and never finish it just like I did my Older Rockstar!Eddie series that'll never see the light of day
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x-i-l-verify · 9 months
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「Dream SMP Daemon AU 」
    ☉ TOMMYINNIT + FLICKA (BLUE JAY) ☉
An aggressive, bold, mischievous species of corvid, blue jays are found all over most of North America because they can thrive basically anywhere, always experimenting and innovating to find new ways to achieve their goals. They have a very broad diet and can eat just about anything. They are also noted for their ability to create their own tools to get food.
Blue jays collect and cache far more food than they actually need, oftentimes shrewdly stealing it from other animals and birds. When they cache their food, they are wary of doing it in front of others, who might see where their food is hidden and steal it in turn. However, they do not show this wariness in front of other blue jays, showing an odd sort of open, trusting nature, wherein they are fully willing to take advantage of others, but do not really expect others to take advantage of them in the same fashion.
Blue jays value spontaneity and freedom, sometimes migrating and sometimes not; they don’t always even migrate in the same direction. While they are not especially noted for their altruism or cooperation – except for when they flock to mob predators – and do not tie themselves down to one specific social group, they do mate for life, showing a selectively committed nature under the right circumstances.
Blue jays are open books when it comes to their emotional states, and will communicate their feelings and opinions clearly and without hesitation through feather displays. In addition to this, however, they do have an underhanded, ruthless side when it comes to getting their way and things that they want, as they are excellent mimics, not just of other birds but of cats and even humans. They will often fake raptor calls to scare off other birds and will forcibly evict other birds out of nests so they can use them themselves.
Tommy is brash, self-indulgent, and trusting. Flicka is his scheming, socially perceptive, vigilant side.
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NAME MEANING Flicka is the pet form of the English Felicity, meaning "happy" or "lucky." It also sounds like "flicker," meaning a) to move irregularly or unsteadily, b) to burn or shine fitfully or with a fluctuating light, and c) to appear or pass briefly or quickly.
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SOURCES https://daemonpage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23866
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jacuzziwaters · 1 year
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You ever sit there and come up with so much lore and backstory for your OCs and then realize that you actually never came up with anything related to their physical appearance....welp guess what I just realized.
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awhisperinthenight · 2 years
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question : what's something commun that you find in your ocs? i just realized most of mine are artists, because i am one. im wondering if other writers have given a commun trait to their ocs, even if its done unconsciously ?
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Why'd I choose to go into the art field anyway? I definitely have dysgraphia and some form of aphantasia. What was I thinking?
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writer-in-theory · 1 year
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Y’all I’m not sure what WIP I want to work on later today 😩
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