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fanaticalfollower · 3 years
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When I tell you SCREAMED laughing!!!
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the amount of love i have for owen joyner can’t be healthy
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missmitchieg · 3 years
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Julie And The Phantoms: A (Unhelpful) Guide For The Newbies
Julie Molina:
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- Played by: Superstar Madison Reyes, funniest human alive
- Nicknames: Underachiever, Jules, Star
- The Star
- Co-lead singer and pianist/keyboardist of Julie And The Phantoms
- Would stan Sunset Curve
- Fashion icon
- Wants to learn the fiddle
- Bisexual icon
- Stans Selena Quintanilla
- Lowkey stans her 'bully''s musical group
- Her type is white guitar boys and all girls
- An angel
- Needs a hug
- Human Wrecking Ball™
- Crescent moons
- TALENT
- A little bit in love with her bestie tbh
- Queen of setting and enforcing boundaries
- Great judge of character
- Accidentally fell in love with a handsome ghost, whoops!
- Always nice to literally everyone, even when she's beefing with them
- Loves purple, butterflies, flowers and glitter
- Daydreamer
- Saturn
- Songwriter & Poet
- Can. Not. Lie.
- 👐 Jazz Hands 👐
- Good at apologizing
- TALENT
- Doodles
- Space
- GIRL CAN DANCE
- Awkward but in a cute way
- Literally Magical
- Pretty sure she's a Siren/Witch Hybrid, I have Evidence
- TALENT
- Good lungs
- Loud voice
- CAN R U N
Rose Molina:
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- Played by: Danube Hermosillo
- Julie's mom
- SIREN QUEEN
- Sunshine
- Fashion icon
- Loves music
- Loves dahlias
- Songwriter
- Stans Sunset Curve
- Has been in a couple bands, one of which was called Rose And The Petal Pushers
- Plays piano, probably also guitar
- Super nice
Ray Molina:
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- Played by: Carlos Ponce
- Julie's dad
- One cool dude
- The Best Dad Ever
- A King and a Witch (trust me)
- Probably also bi tbh
- Photographer
- Supportive and loving
- Knows the words to Julie's songs
- Good at apologizing
- Films Julie And The Phantoms performances for their youtube channel
Carlos Molina:
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- Played by: Sonny Bustamante
- Julie's little brother
- BEST LITTLE BROTHER
- Went into Protect Mode when Julie was scared of the ghost in the garage
- Helped a ghost chef cross over
- The Ghost Toaster
- Youtuber
- Plays baseball
- Likes rap music
- Stans Julie And The Phantoms
- Also films their performances
Flynn Taylor:
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- Played by: Jadah Marie
- Nickname: Disappointment
- Julie's bestie, marketing team, manager and roadie
- Will not tolerate lying and secret keeping
- Crazy glue of best friends
- Also stans her 'bully''s musical group
- Is in love with her 'bully' and is Big Mad about it
- DEFINITELY a lesbian
- The coolest person ever
- Cat person
- Eat The Rich
- She/they
- Literally The Most Supportive Friend
- Also a fashion icon
- Made a promise with Julie they would form a band called Double Trouble when they were 6, made t shirts for said band, wasn't mad when Julie formed her own ghost band
- Came up with the name Julie And The Phantoms
- Rap Queen
- Gives me Destiny's Child stan vibes
- Knows who Julie likes before Julie knows
- A Very Literal Person
- Sass™
- Also films performances
Victoria:
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- Played by: Alison Araya
- Julie's maternal aunt
- Also a fashion icon tbh
- Probably has a succulent named Pablo
- Terrified of demons
- Has seen enough horror movies to know that when shit's going down in a house, you leave the damn house
- Knows how to relieve you of demons
- Drops in with food so they don't eat leftovers every night
- Occasionally babysits Julie and Carlos
- Is on Julie's school mailing list
Luke Patterson:
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- Played by: Charlie Gillespie
- Handsome Ghost Boy #1
- Julie's best friend, boyfriend and Soulmate
- Flirted with Julie's mom once, oops!
- Former lead singer of Sunset Curve
- Current co-lead singer and guitarist of Julie And The Phantoms
- HOO BOY DOES HE NEED A HUG
- His type is dark curly haired latinas and all boys
- Really, really, really likes roses
- No one knows how to describe his eye color
- BAD handwriting
- 👐 Jazz Hands 👐
- The Most Supportive Boyfriend
- If Julie doesn't like a thing, he doesn't like it, either
- Tied with Flynn for #1 Julie Molina Stan
- Would do anything for Julie Molina
- ANYTHING. FOR. JULIE.
- Ships Willex & Boggie
- Music is in. his. soul.
- Literally died for music
- D E T E R M I N A T I O N
- Kinda bad at apologizing at first but he gets better
- Does not give a damn about school
- Just really loves his parents
- Guitar Boy
- Preeeetty sure pretty boy is pan/ace
- Has chemistry with everyone he sings with
- Probably has ADHD
- Loves food
- Appreciates a good show
- Sleeves? Don't know him
- Cries a lot
Alex Mercer-Molina:
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- Played by: Owen Joyner
- Handsome Ghost Boy #2
- Gay Little Drummer Boy
- Allergic to girls
- Formerly Sunset Curve drummer
- Currently Julie And The Phantoms drummer
- Julie's other bestie/older brother tbh
- Pink
- Garbage parents
- Needs a hug so bad
- Also literally died for music
- Ships Jukebox sooooo hard
- Fashion icon
- A N X I E T Y
- Thinks he's the smart one
- Whitney Houston and David Bowie stan
- Boy can SING
- Dancer
- Does not subscribe to Luke's 'if Julie doesn't like it, I don't like it' thing
- Sass™
Reggie Peters-Molina:
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- Played by: Jeremy Shada
- Handsome Ghost Boy #3
- Julie's other other bestie/older brother
- Bisexual
- Also flirted with Julie's mom
- Formerly Sunset Curve bassist
- Currently Julie And The Phantoms bassist
- Parents hate each other, no one knows where they are now
- Doesn't handle yelling well
- In desperate need of a hug
- Protect Him
- Golden Retriever Puppy
- Red, black and white
- LOVE HIS VOICE
- Country Boy
- Shreds on a banjo
- Also literally died for music
- BEST BOY
- Jukebox & Willex Stan #2
- The Actual Smart One
- Is also The Cute One
- FUNNY
- His religion is leather jackets and flannels
- SWEETEST ANGEL BOY
- Loves Julie's dad
- Hypes up his friends a lot
- Just wants his friends to be happy
- BABIE
- Star Wars stan
- Hates Jar Jar Binks
- Gives me Disney fan vibes
- Had a massive crush on Trevor Wilson, known as Bobby at the time
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defultuser · 3 years
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do you remember those posts about how if alex wasn’t gay he’d be a f*ckboy? well allow me to introduce you to owen joyner, i’m not actually sure he was acting, alex in every way except he’s not dead or gay. he’s also an honorary member of the f*ckboy tiktok houses, and while i don’t know the man personally he has strong f*ckboy energy. 
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angelamoores · 3 years
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this is objectively the funniest article I’ve ever read
highlights:
“English is Not His First Language. How many people can say that? He is actually someone who speaks German first and foremost, and now we are wondering really how many people can say that?”
“Of the poor choices a person can make in life, we feel this one is not at the top of the list. But, yet, in the same breath, we feel like this one is right at the top of the list. You’ll understand when we tell you. He tried to ‘skydive’ off the roof of his house while he had a trash bag tied to his pants when he was around 11. So, it’s not like he’s making meth in his bathroom or murdering people at rest stops, but it’s still one of those choices that’s really, really bad.”
“He’s a Fan of the Environment. A big fan. He wants to do anything he can to save it and to protect it and to make sure it’s all right”
“He Has a Big Family. Well, kind of. We don’t know how it worked out this way other than his parents have a lot of kids.”
“His new Netflix show didn’t make him the new guy alone. Well, it’s a new show so everyone was the new guy if we are being honest. However, he’s got a friend on the set. Her name is Savannah May, and they starred together in a Nick show a few years back. They want to make sure the world knows that they are not dating, but that they are great friends.”
“the character in his new show, “Julie and the Phantoms,” was a gay man who has been dead for 25-years, and he didn’t care when he found out. He loves the character, and he loves the costars he’s meeting long the way. He’s not mad about it”
“He’s Young. He’s very young. He just turned 20 over the summer in 2020. Imagine turning 20 on 2020. Imagine having to celebrate your birthday in the height of the pandemic in any situation, but imagine it really in 2020. It cannot be the most fun.”
in conclusion: ???
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turningvioletviolet · 3 years
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so I heard one of the characters on jatp is gay which means i’m legally obligated to watch it
And yeah, I just finished it. At first, I found it a little too cheesy, but once I finished Episode 1 and saw Kenny Ortega’s name, I was like oh okay yeah I get it
(It is, and you can quote me on this, literally impossible to make - or attempt to make - a spiritual successor to HSM that does not end up supremely cheesy)
Anyway, I got curious about the ages of the cast bc there’s no way those boys were 17, so I googled them all. Thoughts and reactions below the cut:
Owen Joyner (Alex): Would have guessed he was early 20s, maybe like 21 or 22. Was shook to realize he’s only 20, mainly because it made me realize I’m finally at the age where actors who play teens on TV are officially younger than me now
Charlie Gillespie (Luke): I could have seen him be anywhere from 20 to 26, and yet was still surprised (albeit pleasantly) to find he’s exactly my age bc now I can feel less weird about finding him attractive lmao
Sidenote: Everytime he said the word “boys”, I wanted to shout at the screen, “We get it, you’re Canadian, okay?” so I was pleased to read that the actor was indeed born in Canada
Jeremy Shada (Reggie): To be fair I already knew he was slightly older than me cuz I’ve been following him since vld (and adventure time, albeit to a lesser extent). Didn’t realize he’s 24 now though. (still lowkey feel weird that he’s already married but then again i’m an agnostic)
Booboo Stewart (Willie): I mean I fully expected him to be like 30 because this dude’s been around for years and years, so if anything surprised me it was that he’s only 27. The 7 year age gap between him an Owen threw me off a bit, but it’s the character ages that matter to the ship, not the actors, and besides, they’re all ghosts anyway so who tf cares
Madison Reyes (Julie): If you told me she was 19 I wouldn’t have been surprised, but I was even less surprised to find that she’s actually 16. She looks it. Similarly got thrown off bc that means a 6 year age gap between her and Charlie, but whatever, it’s the same situation with Willex and the actor ages don’t really matter
Savannah Lee May (Carrie): My expectations for her were the same as Madison’s. I figured she was younger than me but wasn’t sure by how much. 20 checks out.
Jadah Marie (Flynn): Same thing as the last two, I guess? No way was she already 20. 15 was younger than I expected, but not too a surprising degree.
Sacha Carlson (Nick): At max I figured he was 20 or 21, but I thought it was most likely he was 18. Turns out he’s 17. My guess was so close it hurt.
Sonny Bustamante (Carlos): Honestly I guessed 13 for him and was absolutely correct. No surprises there.
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shan2-d2 · 3 years
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As the garbage fire year of 2020 continues, I have been struggling to find something to fill the Schitt’s-Creek-sized hole in my heart.
Which, come to think of it, replaced the Parks-and-Rec-sized hole in my heart prior to that.  I’ve always been a sucker for “soft” television, but with everything going on the world, whatever tolerance I had for heavier fare has disappeared completely.  Like, yeah, I’d love to catch I May Destroy You or I’ll Be Gone in the Dark, but I just. Can’t. Handle. Them. Right now, anyway.  
I do have some old standards to fall back on-- Bob’s Burgers, The Good Place, The Great British Baking Show, and Kim’s Convenience (bless you, Canada) work just fine.  But with so much time at home, I’ve been getting antsy for new, soft, comforting content.
Then I watched Julie and the Phantoms on Netflix.
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And I loved it SO. MUCH.��
(Warning, since this is a family-friendly show: profanity ahead.)
Which, I have to admit, I’m kind of embarrassed about.  Like, look: I fully own up to the fact that my tastes aren’t exactly refined or mature.  I’m one of those contemptible “childless millennials”, after all.  There are things on my Netflix and Spotify lists that would make film buffs and hipsters cry.
But what I will give myself a pat on the back for is that I’m extremely open-minded when it comes to any sort of art consumption.  My tastes are super-varied, and I don’t have the burden of worrying about what is “socially acceptable” for me to watch.  I can watch Barry and Fleabag just as happily as I can watch Sarah & Duck (literally, a show for preschoolers that works better than any anti-anxiety medication I’ve tried) and old episodes of Tiny Toon Adventures.
Regardless, there’s embarrassment. Which is not about the fact that it’s a cheesy, High-School-Musical-esque, pre-teen friendly series, actually (... okay, maybe a little), but because the aging freakout is real, my friends.  Hitting the “Oh-My-God, I’d-Have-To-Play-the-PARENT” period of your life is fucking rough.  
Basically, in the words of Roger Murtaugh... I’m too old for this shit.
But I’m trying to tell myself that 1) Generation Z is delightful and I refuse to feel guilt for appreciating them, 2) god knows we’re all watching Stranger Things without embarrassment, and those kids are, like, twelve, and 3) now that I’m apparently ANCIENT, I’m supposed to stop caring about what other people think.
So: Julie and the Phantoms made my heart grow three sizes and I loved it a whole lot.
Quick synopsis: Julie, our hero, is a performing arts school student who is grieving the death of her mom and unable to continue making/playing music because of it.  One day, three ghosts of teenage boys who were in a mid-90’s rock band show up in her garage.  They form a new band (insert title of show here) and help Julie rediscover her love of music, while she helps them navigate the afterlife.  Bonding occurs, lessons are learned, the power of friendship is discovered, you get the idea.
And okay-- at its surface, it’s family-friendly entertainment, you know? Cute story, funny moments, the music is catchy, the whole cast is super talented (and, hey, can actually play their instruments! Whaddaya know!).
But the CHARACTERS!  THE SOFTNESS! THE REPRESENTATION!  If this is how young adults are going to written from now on, sign me the fuck up.
First of all, the two female leads of the show are women of color-- Julie (Madison Reyes) is Latinx and her best friend, Flynn (Jadah Marie), is Black.  That alone is (sadly, STILL) noteworthy, but I literally wanted to stand on my couch and yell about how wonderfully self-assured, smart, mature, strong, and competent these girls are.  Julie, in particular, is just… she’s just so cool, you guys. She never once has to rely on anyone else but herself to get shit done, and she takes responsibility for her own actions.  The girl very clearly knows her talent, capabilities, and worth, and PHEW, do we need to see more young women like her on our screens!  Like, yes, the boys support her, but they’re complete equals.  Julie doesn’t need any male saviors up in this business. She’s got this.  I LOVE HER. I SOMEHOW WANT TO BE HER WHEN I GROW UP, EVEN THOUGH SHE’S LIKE HALF MY AGE (oh GOD. I’m so OLD).
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In fact, throughout the series, the importance of honesty, respect, and healthy support is repeatedly emphasized.  There’s no dependency issues here, and lying of any kind is clearly forbidden.  Which I loved, because the whole “teen lying to everyone” storyline has been done to death.
Then there’s the three boys of Sunset Curve-- Luke (Charlie Gillespie), Alex (Owen Joyner), and Reggie (Jeremy Shada), i.e. the messengers of destruction for toxic masculinity.  THIS IS THE MALE FRIENDSHIP PORTRAYAL WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR, PEOPLE.  They’re so nice to each other! They’re so supportive! They’re tactile, openly emotional, and completely devoid of judgment of any interests or behaviors that don’t follow male social standards.  Bless the Age of the Soft Boys, may their reign be unbreakable and everlasting.
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Oh, and Alex is openly gay.  It’s not just hinted at-- he’s out and proud, with an adorable crush/pre-relationship with a skater boy named Willie (Booboo Stewart).  And, apart from a quick mention about Alex’s parents being homophobic, the show pretty much takes the Schitt’s Creek route-- all love and acceptance, with not much of a thing made of his sexuality at all (in fact, there’s enough evidence that none of the boys are completely straight, and I’m here for that, too).
And if all of that isn’t enough of a cuddle to the heart for you, THERE’S MORE:
Julie’s supportive, soft dad
Reggie’s immediate, one-sided bond with Julie’s supportive, soft dad and her brother
Julie and Luke totally have crushes on each other and it’s SO SWEET but completely age-appropriate, good job guys
I’m a sucker for good harmonies and the band HAS ‘EM IN SPADES
Flynn being HBIC the entire series
Julie’s crush Nick being very realistically awkward and dopey in the shadow of Luke’s arms (Nick, dude, lose that HAT, I beg of you)
A surprisingly moving side-plot/song about Luke’s parents
Alex just wanting to dance, and also being a high-key feminist and calling out the others when they slip up
EVERYONE’S JUST SO FUCKING NICE, OKAY
So yeah. Shut up. It’s wonderful and pure, and I WILL TAKE ANY SOFTNESS I CAN GET IN THIS HELL YEAR, WHEREVER I CAN GET IT.
In conclusion, Kenny Ortega can have my entire soul if he wants it, for not only this but also Hocus Pocus and Newsies.
Completely Unnecessary Afterword:
Being old enough to remember 1995-- and, specifically, what was popular that year-- has brought up some important questions regarding the Sunset Curve boys:
We know they died in ‘95, but like… when? Did they get to see Empire Records, for Christ’s sake?! Did they see Casper, because, I mean, they’re basically the Devon Sawas of 2020?  Were they spared their contemporaries’ fate of constantly over-quoting Billy Madison and Tommy Boy?  
OH MY GOD, DID THEY HAVE AOL SCREEN NAMES, AND WHAT WERE THEY??
What are each of the guys’ favorite song off of Boyz II Men’s “II”? This is possibly the MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION.
Did they die before Jagged Little Pill came out?  That would kind of break my heart.  Not that I expect Julie to start portraying Alanis-levels of anger/angst, but ‘95 was a YEAR for women in rock.  Garbage, Hole, No Doubt, PJ Harvey, The Cranberries, Veruca Salt, Bjork, and countless others-- they all had massive hits that year.  I love the idea of Julie and the guys sitting around the garage listening to all of those women for inspiration.  Can we have a resurgence of female-led rock bands taking over the charts, please?
On a much more serious note, given where the AIDS crisis was in ‘95, it’s no wonder Alex is a nervous wreck. It’s not really something I expect the show to delve into, but man… getting transported to 2020 might’ve been a bit of a blessing (not that things are great now, but y’know, medical progress).
How in the world did none of them fall victim to the whole “white boys dressing hip-hop” trend back in ‘95? I mean… Clueless got it right. (Wait, did they make it to Clueless??)
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williamaltman · 3 years
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Ok I already said that on twitter and etc but I need to put it here: OWEN PATRICK JOYNER AS HULKLING!!!! Like seriously, he looks just like McKelvie’s Teddy, he’s actually blonde, he’s 20 so he’s on exactly the right age range, he has like that wide jaw while still passing as a teenager, and Alex(his character on the show Julie and the Phantoms on Netflix) has so many Teddy vibes already?? Like, he’s a soft swet and nice gay guy who’s usually the most reasonable amongst his friends. Ain’t that Teddy? Please universe, give me this. OK, THIS IS AN EDIT CAUSE I LEFT THIS IN THE DRAFTS WEEKS AGO FOR SOME REASON AND I WISH I DIDN’T CAUSE I WANTED TO BE THE FIRST EVER PERSON TO SAY THIS ON TUMBLR, BUT:  I have now thought about something else that makes this even better: Billy's actual name is William. Willie from JATP is a William too. If this fancast happened, HE WOULD BE DATING TWO WILLIAMS!!!
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fanaticalfollower · 3 years
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Ummmm...
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fanaticalfollower · 3 years
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On Twitter they were mad for what Charlie answered Owen. They said he is making fun of gay people. Some people are so ridiculous.
We saw that coming. I taked about this yesterday: X
This is why I avoid Twitter.
Whatever. Let them stay mad 🙃
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fanaticalfollower · 3 years
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OMG WHERE'S THE LAST PIC FROM??? I'VE NEVER SEEN IT (from the "just two bros in a van" post btw)
I have no idea! If someone knows I'd really like to know! I saw it on a fan page last night.
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fanaticalfollower · 3 years
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This need to be talked about....
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This is gonna stick with me for awhile...like...bois...
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fanaticalfollower · 3 years
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so that post you made recently about THAT part of the live. to me when i first watched it, i heard “depends on what he’s drinking”
but i never thought about that other option until i saw your post. just food for thought :)
Let's get a consensus here cause I can't tell now!
Either way tho...it's not a no! And how would Charlie know!
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fanaticalfollower · 3 years
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this boys... What if Owen really isn't that straight and just dropped it like that?🤭 like Joshua Bassett did while talking about Harry Styles, that was iconic😌
SO iconic!!! LMAO!
I swear everyday we get closer and closer to Owen coming out. I can't be the only one who feels like he hints at it CONSTANTLY!
LOL Owen starts streaming over Charlie before he answers. Maybe because he realizes Charlie could slip up and say something that he doesn't want out there?
...yet
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fanaticalfollower · 3 years
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at the same time though, i felt bad and awkward for that question. because it is such a personal and private thing, that really we have no business knowing about. so i didn’t particularly like that viewer’s comment.
but the boys handled it well, made a sus answer and then moved on.
you get what i mean?
My question is why Owen read it off in the first place? He could've just as easily ignored it. But he chose to draw attention to it.
I think (and this is just my opinion) that Owen is not straight. Weather that means he's Bi, Pan, Curious, Demi, Gay, Fluid, or just doesn't want a label, doesn't really matter but idt he's 100% straight. Whatever it maybe, perhaps he doesn't even know!
;ut I think it's a pretty new discovery of himself and he doesn't really know how to move forward with it. How to come out or IF he wants to come out. So I think he's hinting at things. He's giving us little puzzle pieces to put together. Cause stuff like that has been said multiple times now...
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fanaticalfollower · 3 years
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same anon :)
i see what you're saying. patterns is what means something. and we're seeing patterns right now..
👀👀👀 glad I'm not the only one seeing it.
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