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ludinusdaleth · 1 month
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im deeply enjoying the relationship ira is slowly building with fearne. he takes no umbrage with her for her father being zathuda, but their first meeting was marked by him not killing her because he realized she was of the calloways - and morri. she is nervous around him but naturally gravitates toward him and vise versa due to being the only fae in any given situation. they try to coerce fcg into being as whimsical as them on the silver sun. she steals his spyglass. they bond as ira tries to bring out the rascal fae instinct in her. he insults her by saying shes a disappointment where imogen is more powerful, but only says it because it's the unseelie perspective, and when he realizes she's hurt by it he spends the rest of the episode propping her up as fascinating, her father as shitty, and repeatedly says he would love her on his infiltration team, portraying her as extremely reliable before the volition.
ira is not a good man. and he knows that, and fearne knows that. but i think some part of him is deeply aware of the calloways' hospitality to him when he never deserved it, and even more aware this young woman is morrigan's ward. he is standing before a girl he doesn't see as a princess but the (grand)daughter of the people he truly does see as family. he never really knew how to treat people well, least of all them. but you can see him.... attempting, in his own way, to fit into a familial role to her. if there are two things fundamental to ira beyond his obscenity or his vengeance, it's his warped love of potential, and his even more warped, but even more sincere, care for a seldom few. he sees a literal fire of a youth before him, birthed & raised by those seldom few.
he wont let her peter out.
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plsleafmelon · 12 days
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dude i do not want to do this battle again i am so tired brooooo WHY IS THIS FIGHT TAKING FOREVER WHAT IS THE EX CONDITION????
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At the moment, I believe that Chet didn't actually think that Ollie and Birdie worked on the first device for the Unseelie Court. That was a framing device, the set up, the rhetorical starting point so that he could ultimately lead everyone to the real conclusion. At least, that's how it feels to me. Chet takes Ollie's protests and insisting too easily and too calmly, and he very quickly accepts Ollie's answers and folds them into his sequence of questions and rhetoric. He's even rather gentle and non-judgmental in his initial statements.
Once laid out by Chet, it's true. There's a lot of potential holes in Ollie and Birdie's story. They walked up to a device they do not understand nor can identify and happened to steal the most important part, then somehow decided that they also needed to create a device using the component they stole, and despite having no real idea about how to build devices, they somehow found the one fey who knows how and is willing to do so. (Or, they found Ira, then decided to build a device?)
Either they're very lucky, they're hiding a detail, or they're being played for fools—or some combination.
When Fearne finally says the actual implied question out loud (how do you know?)—and when Chet questions why the Unseelie Court need the crown right this moment, just like you do (why would you both need it this badly? how many possible devices can you make with it?)—Ollie thinks about this for a long time before turning to Ira.
I think Chet wanted Ollie to turn to Ira the entire time.
You have on this project an Unseelie arcane scientist who isn't generally forthcoming about what he's doing and is the only one who really understands this device. How do you know it's not the same? Who would know this, and what would his knowing imply about what he's been working on? Can you believe him when he says it isn't the same? How do you know that Ira wasn't building the first one?
I think that's Chet's actual conclusion, not that Ollie and Birdie are hiding something. There is a strong possibility that Ira was working on the original. It is absolutely feasible that after they took the crown, he played them to complete his work.
It's more deft, easier, and faster to lead Ollie, and everyone else, to the conclusion by eliminating all other possibilities. It makes sure everyone is following. I currently believe that was Chet's intended conclusion all along: the easiest answer is that one of you was probably working on the original, and if so, it has to be Ira.
Also, why do you need a crown for a telescope, anyway?
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As an ex-music student I thoroughly enjoy the use of the dies irae throughout the soundtrack of Goncharov (1973) as a means of communicating the deadly ending of the film to us through this very old motif within music. And the way that the dies irae slowly entangles itself into Andrey’s theme as his relationship with Goncharov becomes more dangerous alludes to his (Andrey’s) involvement in the final moments of his lover’s life.
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Holy shit, wait a second.
I don't know why I thought Ludinus had to be from Aeor. At least, that's what I assumed ever since he mentioned living long enough to witness the Calamity
But what if he was from somewhere else? In ExU Calamity's wap-up chat, Marisha, Lou, and Aabria all discussed how they met up to decide how "nasty" their characters were. Brennan listed off a bunch of examples of corruption that their characters may have known about, to see where they'd draw the line.
"You tell me when I go too far. People extending their lives, maybe there's a Magister that hasn't shown up in a little while, maybe he's maybe a lich and not telling anybody..."
We know that Ludinus cannot have lived as long as he's claimed unless he prolonged his life through other means, as Matt/Ira mentioned.
"It seems a bit stretched for the lifespan of an elf, unless he dabbles in necromancy. Which - I mean, then the gates fly open, but it's possible..."
It also kinda loops in with my theory (found here) that Ludinus told Delilah where Vecna's laboratory was. If he was ALSO A LICH, the fact that he would know makes even more sense! It may also explain why he covered up Delilah's necromancy - because it could have also led to his own necromancy being discovered.
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skeine · 1 year
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If Aeor's Factorum Malleus project involved releasing Predathos, then man, the irony of all this is hilarious.
It means the gods didn't build the divine gate around Exandria to protect mortals.
After destroying Aeor's Creator Hammer project, the gods needed a backup plan, a last line of defence. They built the second divine gate to protect themselves, in case anyone else ever succeeded where Aeor failed.
And Ludinus, word is he's a pretty smart guy. He'd know if he wants to succeed, his plan must involve giving Predathos a way through both divine gates. And who knows, maybe even a way to close them back up after too. Leaving Exandria locked behind a divine gate again, safe from the gods' vengeance and the ensuing divine carnage on the other side.
And because of the divine gate they themselves created, the gods can't do a damn thing to prevent any of this from happening. No smiting cities, no stasis bubbles, nothing.
All they've got to work with is dire visions, a bunch of scrappy fuckups with a baby vestige, and some hilariously misguided Judicators hunting down the only ones who believe the visions. The irony of all this is fucking delightful
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druidposting · 1 year
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B R I N G IRA IN THE DREAM
COULD YOU IMAGINE????? COULD YOU EVEN FUCKING IMAGINE
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pocketgalaxies · 2 years
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wait. i thought laudna was just fangirling over ira because of their "spooky" aesthetics just like last time and not because she was actually attracted to him. and now we're talking about delilah influencing her?? am i crazy or is that one little thing being over analyzed just a tiddy bit
yeah no i had the same interpretation as you! i'm not personally looking into it much more than that, although considering the amount of thought that marisha (and everyone else) tends to put into each character choice, i don't blame other people for thinking that there's something deeper there
i mostly just reblogged that post bc i think there could be something interesting to be said about laudna "not accessing the part of her brain" that is related to genuine romantic interest, going on one-on-one dates and showing affection, but there is still this kind of caricature of horniness that she is okay with expressing either through pate or through overt schoolgirl giggling in the presence of the nightmare king. like she has consistently thought that ira was kinda hot kinda svelte kinda fuckable but as soon as she was confronted with any sort of romantic relationship with emotional investment it was this Other Part Of Her Brain that is Totally Foreign to her. just thought it was interesting!
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tiredqueermushroom · 2 years
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Post CR3 Episode 30 Thoughts: The Calloways and Intention/Impact
So I was right in my previous post that Birdie and Ollie are both irresponsible idiots. They willingly left their child daughter in the care of a known hag called the Fatestitcher and are then surprised when it's implied that Ira; you know child kidnapper/experimenter may have struck a deal with said HAG.
Trading away portions of their daughter's life/time. Her childhood in exchange for materials. Birdie and Ollie left Fearne when she was 8 years old, she's now 112 that is over 100 years of Fearne's life gone. And when their daughter brought up the years lost, they continued to brush it off until their daughter pieced together in like an hour of knowing Ira. They had 6 years to suspect something was fishy, 6 years to ask Ira what exactly they were building. 6 years of complete and utter irresponsibility.
Now I'm gonna talk about Intention vs Impact. Some may argue that Birdie and Ollie aren't bad parents because they ment well, that they risked 6 years of their lives, they had to work with morally dubious people all for they sake of their daughter. To keep Fearne safe. I have no doubt that they both love Fearne with all they have, but love isn't the only thing that makes you a good parent. They ment well, therefore they're good parents. The ends justify the means.
Now let's look at the impact of their actions. Fearne is a complete stranger to her parents, Fearne is so emotionally constipated that at the reveal of her being traded all she had to say was "Well that puts a wrinkles on things." Fearne has lost over 100 years and lived 100 years without her parents, that she can never get back.
They risked Fearne's childhood and lost. They should have never played with Fearne's life like that, they robbed her of her autonomy. Even if it was accidental. They knew Morri was a hag. They knew she was a Fatestitcher. Yet the played with Fearne's life, and yes, it was for Fearne's safety but was her safety really worth this?
I've seen people compare Birdie and Veth. Yes they both left their children in the care of others, for that child's safety and in Veth's case to give her time to reevaluate whether being a stay at home mum was what she wanted to return to. The difference is intention and impact.
Veth's intention: Keep Luc safe and have time for some introspection.
Impact: Luc was kept safe with his father and veth created a life where she runs a summer camp and takes care of her son.
Birdie's intention: Keep Fearne safe while she and Ollie further investigate Rudius.
Impact: Fearne has over 100 years stolen from her by a known hag and they may have unintentionally helped build a device that does something and accidental trading their daughter to said fatestitching hag.
It doesn't matter what their intentions were anymore because the impact has irreversibly changed Fearne's life, a life they accidental traded away.
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nat-of-personifs · 3 months
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okay but the somatic symptoms of my stress are very interesting to me in a very. detached way. like oh cool my resting heart rate has apparently gone from 59 to 76 bpm. my period lasted three times its normal length. I start yawning Really Hard at 8pm because apparently 6.8 hours of sleep is too little?? do I live in a simulation is this what personifs feel like. you bet I was staring at the heart rate monitor on my watch while I was having my panic attack lol
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ludinusdaleth · 4 months
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a travesty ive barely posted meta for artagan here when anyone who knows me knows ive written universes about him. so, a bit to ponder on:
something interesting about artagan - and by extension many fae in cr in general - is how thoroughly he's defined by selfishness as the core value of a fae, when we are shown time & again even before artagan gets his redemption arc that that isnt true.
now, arti is selfish. hes the definition of lust, & sloth, & sheer debauchery. he'd rather sit back than help even his favorite little tiefling (at first - more on that later). he would rather abandon his followers to an island that would destroy their memory than attempt to lead them.
but.
he planned for his followers to land on rumblecusp because to him, a fae, losing memories was completely Insignificant - and he literally did some of their paperwork to help them along, and did the work to ensure travelercon left them with each other. he was benevolent enough to vm their first meeting, showing incredible patience despite their disregard for him. he saved vex from drowning. he chose to befriend jester after seeing her be hurt by lord sharpe's son. he comforted jester when he could, when he never needed to. this is all before The Travelercon Kick, before he agreed to help the m9 into the feywild & shift time for them for no price, before he helped jester battle trent/omentis and made sure his spells did not hurt innocent bystanders.
this isnt some garuntee that he, pre-jester, was any saint. but what sticks out to me is how much the trait of selfishness is vastly applied to him. not only does sehanine's angel refer to him as a selfish creature twice, but he refers to himself that way the episode before. it is as if he has endless history with being called that, as if he is the most vile creature by virtue of being an archfey, and he made peace with that, leaned into that until jester walked into his life.
which always leads, in my head, to thinking about the fae of this show in general. they are so vastly blanketed as dangerous. and some are. but the more you analyze it the more you see how it's less integral to their being, and more what they accept they are. if youre seen as a monster, and whimsy is inherent to you, you will play the role to see what happens (i see this in characters like ira immensely). we see the younger generation of fae raised away from these generalizations - fearne & morrighan - break the stereotype near entirely. sure, fearne picks pockets and loves her friends lowkey possessively - but weve seen time & again how thats playful, and gives way to so much selflessness she's falling apart at the seams, only just now telling the party her fears. and morrighan shows no possessiveness at all, being shy & near subservient as a waitress. they are living proof that a fae's worst traits are a matter of nurture.
watching artagan is watching some of his peak fae-court upbringing begin to break down by exposure to a different world. i always recall how both he & ira hiss at the feywild for its contradictions, its rules when it's a land built for free wills - which implies the fae are not let to be themselves, but have their culture shaped by courts so strict they wont even let fae leave to exandria. the worst ideas about them begin to shatter the more cr tells us how fae society has fallen into something like an oil slick into an ocean - literal imagery used by athion & yu. the fae's free existence has been polluted.
artagan was our first example of all of that. and how it's possible to become better.
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blazingstar24 · 1 year
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Could Ludinus have met Ira in the ruins of Molaesmyr?
Because it’s hella interesting that he’s the one who reached out to him. Not Otohan who would have known Ira from the Apex War. This means they have met before, had done business together before, or Ludinus is just great at searching for people to hire. (He’s got Exandrian Linkedin!)
It’s possible Otohan told him about Ira and Ludinus went to do negotiations. But Ludinus is the outsider to this whole team-up in the first place. Otohan was doing her Ruidusborn shit apart from the Verity and then the CA got involved when that shit became noticeable. And clearly they are not happy partners. So why would she let him make outside deals.
So when did Ludinus meet Ira or how did he know of him. Well there’s one place that comes to my mind: Molaesmyr. After the incident that destroyed that city, dark and twisted fey have taken it over. (Also the elves who couldn’t escape got fucked up too) There’s no doubt in my mind that Ludinus has gone back there to excavate relics. The Empire sure wanted to if not for the Savalirwoods. And while Ludinus does have his annexes, it’s been shown that if he’s really invested in something, he’ll go himself. He went to A2 to check out the fucked up arboretum. He went to Professor Sumal’s office himself. And honestly, he would have a greater chance of making it through the Savalirwoods into Molaesmyr because he used to live there.
Could he have met Ira there. Ira’s highly interested in science and weird magic. The ruins of Molaesmyr would be a fun field trip for him. Not to mention, he fits in as a dark fey entity. Could they have talked over shared interest in the arcane and Ludinus just kept him in mind as a potential he could use later.(Ludinus: “He’s a surprise tool that will help me later!”) They could have worked on something together before too. Both of them are wizards. Because then it adds more rather than Ludinus contacting Ira out of the blue. There is the even more insane idea that Ira used to be an elf in Molaesmyr and then got corrupted into what he is now. And Ludinus used to know him and they used to be wizard buddies in the past. (Lol this is just me pushing Ludigoth but still could be possible)
It’s just interesting in that Ludinus knew Ira before this Ruidus business. Knew him well enough to show him his own sketches of what he wanted for the keys. Ira clearly was the first choice for him. And that’s intriguing knowing that Ludinus doesn’t really do friends. So what’s his list of magical contacts and favors got to look like?
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jotun-philosopher · 4 months
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Good Omens S3 speculation playlist
These pieces have sort of drifted into becoming the soundtrack for all my wild speculations about what Season 3 might bring, acting as placeholder music until David Arnold works his Euterpean magic -- see what you think! :D
Dies Irae (Karl Jenkins Requiem (link goes to youtube playlist of the full album, 'cos it's awesome and seriously worth listening to)) -- this is far and away my favourite version of the Dies Irae; it feels particularly appropriate for GO because it's borderline bebop and sounds like something Crowley'd have playing loudly in the Bentley while driving like fury to save the world (or possibly invading Heaven to rescue his True Love) if he felt Queen wouldn't quite cut it. Plus, per this post, the four-note Dies Irae motif appears a few times in the score to S1 (appropriately enough!) -- why not try listening to the OST again and finding them all? ;D
Dancing Mad (Nobuo Uematsu FF6) -- bit of an oddball association, I know; I happened to be reading a post making jokes about Kakfa (as in Franz Kakfa) shortly after the release of S2, only I mis-parsed 'Kafka' as 'Kefka' (as in Kefka Palazzo) and was promptly deluged with mental images of the Ineffables being badass adorable together to the tune of Dancing Mad! XD Plus, I like the image of Heaven suddenly hearing the organ notes at 11:32 crescendoing in the background, and the elevator doors slamming open right when the vocal-ish bit kicks in at 11:51 to reveal a certain VERY cheesed-off serpent who's in a rescuing mood :D (He does love to be dramatic, after all ^^)
Adiemus (Karl Jenkins Symphonic Adiemus) -- I just really like this track, and it feels kind of appropriate for a moment of renewed hope and building optimism after a moment of what Tolkien called 'eucatastrophe' and TVTropes calls 'Near Villain Victory' -- something we're almost certain to get in S3
In Caelum Fero (Karl Jenkins Symphonic Adiemus) -- from the same album as Adiemus above (In Caelum Fero is the first track, actually, so I've make the link one that takes you to the start of the playlist). It sounds threatening and dramatic and hopeful by turns -- appropriate for the Apocalyptic situation that's brewing for S3 -- and the title translates from the Latin as 'I will bear you to Heaven', which matches up to The Final Fifteen in two or three different ways! ;_; (#FuckTheMetatronWithACactus)
Sanctus (Karl Jenkins The Armed Man: A Mass For Peace) -- ever since I first heard this track waay back in 2001, I've associated it with the image of hordes of angels marching to war; it certainly sounds ominous enough!
I'll Be Your Mirror (Velvet Underground) -- I got into Velvet Underground entirely because of Good Omens! I love this track in particular because it sounds so utterly perfect for one of the Ineffables trying to bolster the other's confidence (in my imagination, it's usually Crowley trying to boost Aziraphale, 'cos that poor angel's self-esteem is atrocious :( *hugs*)
Pale Blue Eyes (Velvet Underground) -- Crowley's fave VU song, I gather :D Plus, despite the title, this particular love song was apparently written for someone with hazel eyes (just like our angel!) :D
I Found A Reason (Velvet Underground) -- I can't offhand remember seeing this song mentioned in fandom discussions of VU, which seems a bit of a shame; it feels just so darn PERFECT as a summary of how the Ineffables feel about each other! <3
Edit/addition 18/02/2024:
The Dark Morris Song (Steeleye Span, Wintersmith album) -- this one's an absolute bop, is connected to Discworld (so Aziraphale would probably approve!) and is very thematically appropriate for the Ineffable Husbands; Pterry thought up the Dark Morris (danced in secrecy and silence, in black costumes, deep in the forest, to welcome the winter -- first mentioned in Reaper Man, becomes a plot point in Wintersmith) as a counterpart and counterbalance to the traditional Morris dance to welcome the summer. The whole 'balance of light and dark' thing is a big part of the Ineffables' story <3
The Good Witch (Steeleye Span, Wintersmith album) -- also a very good match for the Ineffable Husbands' vibe; the first half of the song is about a witch being good and loving and caring even if she is 'ugly' or gets tagged as 'wicked' for whatever reason (A. J. Crowley, anyone???), and the second half is the actual Terry Pratchett doing a spoken-word reading of his passage about what 'cackling' means for Discworld witches -- which matches up uncomfortably well with what the impossibly high standards Heaven imposes on Aziraphale have already done to his psyche in terms of c-PTSD and compassion fatigue, and what they might still do in the worst-case scenario...
Stranger In Paradise (Alexander Armstrong version) -- I just feel like this coincidentally matches the Vibes (tm) of bits and pieces of the Ineffable Husbands' story! "Won't you answer the fervent prayer/Of this stranger in Paradise/Don't send me in dark despair/From all that I hunger for!" -- The Final Fifteen/Ineffable Breakup, anyone? "If I stand starry-eyed/That's a danger in Paradise" -- danger of angel/demon relationships being discovered. "I saw your face/And I ascended" [...] "Somewhere in space/I am suspended/Until I know/ There's a chance that you care" -- bits of 'Before the Beginning' and The Final Fifteen! Plus, the title alone feels perfect for Azzy's feelings/situation at the end of S2... Brb, crying!
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Yōrū.
Cuando menos me lo espero estoy buscando conflicto, será porque no estoy conforme conmigo mismo y espero aceptación. ¿De quién? No tengo razón. Mi vicio es encontrar lo que no estoy buscando, cómo te niego el oro entre tanta plata. El precio al final no tiene valor. El calor no tiene una temperatura tan alta. No bastan tantas palabras. Las pastillas me llenan de ira, quién diría que el medicamento me iba a alterar. El tratamiento trata la verdad hasta que miento, y no siento, lo lamento, estoy cuerdo en este momento. Pienso si entro o me retiro, en el picaporte me rindo. En el limbo me deslizo en un río de tu risa. La brisa abriga, no evita el frío. No evita el conflicto de este lío con el tiempo. Si en pos de mí fuera el momento, el espacio no pasa lento. Constante gravitación y al vacío no le va a importar. Otro sistema planetar sin vida en el más allá. Nunca fue posible llegar. Es un viaje sin retorno, lo veo en sus ojos: no hay final. Un eclipse lunar sería la salvación. Una ceguera sin sabor. Una pintura sin color. Una fisura sin sanación. Una meta sin premio. Me ahogo con mi aliento. No es éso ni aquello mi pretexto. Mi excusa es no tener musa para ésto. Es lo que es, sin ganas de ser, en la espera del perecer y qué pueda suceder. Un ánsia inmensa por la sorpresa del qué será. Una cruz pesada por cargar. Un camino largo por caminar. Sería más sencillo nadar entre las lágrimas que llenan el mar hasta llegar a la orilla. Descansar y respirar. Caminar sin que exploten las minas. Saciar la vida sin saber si va a terminar. Tener que rimar sin finalizar. Mantener un ritmo sin bailar. Entenderlo sin tenerlo que explicar. Aplicarlo y poderlo compartir. Competir sin llegar a un fin. Evolucionar sin crísis. Fusionar sin fisionar. Expander sin contraer. Llegar al inicio sin final. Al son del átomo que no percibimos. Un papel que no está en blanco. Una orquesta sin instrumentos. Palabras sin letras. Puntos y comas sin ser caracteres. Un texto sin leer.
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no but you don't understand. ventress wants to fight the shimmer lena wants to study it anya doesn't understand it at all (cass is killed before we can learn her pov). josie just accepts it as it is. josie never reached the lighthouse and haven't seen the source of the shimmer, only its echoes reflected in the nature and then herself, but she understood it in a way lena never did. for lena the shimmer is a mirror, it fights her because she fights it, but for josie it's a welcoming thing, something that she lets herself be enveloped by. it's almost a kind of love. a peace that i don't think she ever felt before her disappearance
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god i just realized that the 'oohs' in all the angels are the dies irae motif what the FUCK. judgement day. sacrifice. you are all the same. you are all to blame.
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