#intentionally sexualized and objectifying

[sanemisstalker]

As much as I sexualize and objectify him, I just know Sanemi would be so incredibly difficult to get into bed with. For good reason.

CW/ SEVERE Angst/ am.... am i depressed? Maybe, lol/ Discussion of CA / DV / Men's Mental Health / Sanemi is afraid of his dead dad / MANGA SPOILERS/ Panic Attack / ANXIETY / SH - Just general no good times as a result of Sanemi intentionally isolating.

This isn't headcanons or anything, I've just had my fair share of Sanemi run ins in my life, and I know He'd be afraid of you.

Afraid of himself and being just like his dad. He looks just like the bastard. If he didn't have the white hair, it'd be identical. He has those thousand yard stare eyes, and that big, imposing frame. After his mothers death, I just know he starred at that thing for days. Watching it fester and scar... it was easier before that one came in, to separate his face from his fathers- What an ugly gash.

And he was just like his dad, to Genya, at least. He wanted more than anything for Genya to just be happy, and he knew the stupid boy was doing it all for him. To earn his big brother's love that Sanemi had been intentionally depriving him of. And it sickened Sanemi.

He had to make it painfully clear to Genya every step of the way that nothing he did, no matter the triumph, no matter how proud Sanemi was- was ever going to make Sanemi snap and just say it.

Genya was too good to be good enough. Sanemi thanked his father, briefly, for that trait about himself. Sanemi turned everything off the day his mother died. Everything except for his dad.

Genya did not deserve a tie to the woeful underbelly of the world. Those silly things Genya said after Sanemi killed their mother were Sanemi's saving grace. He never would've been brave enough to start removing himself from Genya's life if Genya hadn't believed he opened the door.

It's why he tried to take his eyes when he found out Genya had been eating demons- Genya was a man he just couldn't protect anymore, because Sanemi kept tabs and he hadn't known that about Genya for a while, now.

It was all so... scary, Sanemi struggled to even think about it sometimes. Anytime he would a pit would grow in his stomach. Anytime he thought about snapping and reconciling with his brother, telling him how proud he was- that pit would be right back. It was like he was starving.

And God, when he meets someone he loves it stings. It stings because Sanemi was always the one walking the others out of the house when dad got bad. It stings because he knows exactly what that bastard did to his mom- he knew the movements intrinsically, and that's all he knew how to do to those fly away demons he'd been slaughtering for months as a teenager.

Back when he could still resceitate a smidge of his empathy for the things. He just started imagining them as his dad.

Because the pathetic piece of shit died before Sanemi could get penance. Kyogo should've been alive for Sanemi to kill, to get big and strong, and beat his father down into submission like Kyogo had been beating him, his mother, and his siblings down for years...

He should've been alive to do the bare minimum and protect his wife- to have fallen to slaughter in her stead. Because there should've been a bigger man in the house- To not only protect Shizu, but to protect Sanemi... but there just wasn't.

The love stings because every time he's reminded of how weak he is.

He loved Kumeno. With everything in his body, he knew he loved Kumeno. He wouldn't dare say a word. He had such a soft smile, Sanemi felt yet another drop of color fade from his vision as he watched Kumeno's smile fade away.

God, he loved Kanae more than he hated the world. He knew it radiated off of him when she entered a room- Because she treated him so softly. The news had shaken him for weeks. He doesn't even quite recall where he went or what he did.

He was greedy to want anything when he wore that uniform and wielded that blade. The first time in a long time he bothered to try and love, the world reminded Sanemi of his place.

And good for it, too, He'd figure. He would've beat Kanae, he bet. Would've reduced such a kind and caring woman to a sniveling dog beneath his fists.

It was better, that God took her away. She was safer from him dead.

His thoughts are never this formulated. They're thicker with self-bashing and the like. He can't bare to look at his face, only his torso- He crafted that himself, his dad was never this strong.

I know if he likes you, you'd just never know. It'd be like pulling teeth, but somehow worse. He doesn't sleep with anyone because that's disrespectful. No woman is an object to be used once, maybe seven times, and then cast off to deal with the brunt of it.

I'm sure beating up the Kakushi that made Mitsuri's uniform was more than cathartic for him.

I'm sure, if you manage to get through to him inspite all of this, he'd be afraid to touch you. He yanks his hand away, and never initiates kissing, even though it's all he wants to do.

He cries when he loses his virginity because fuck, god is going to yank you away. and he knows he can't do anything about it because he messed up and weak. He got so close to you, and god is going to smite you for it.

He's never the one that bares the runt of his sins.

He can't finish. He has a panic attack, it's visceral, and terrifying, he cant even manage to cry. It takes every bone in his body not to lash out screaming, breaking, and destroying while you cradle him against your chest, because God, fuck, he's a mess.

It would take him months to even consider it again. He begs you to leave him and find a man that can treat you better, because it just isn't him-

And it hurts because you see how strong he is to just be alive everyday. Sanemi has never been strong, though. And he doubts he will ever be strong enough to love you correctly-

It's not like him to quit, though.

God I might part 2 this, he's such a little fucker lmao.

#sanemi x you #demon slayer x reader #sanemi smut #demon slayer smut #sanemi x reader #sanemi x y/n #hashira x reader

[naneun-no]

Ramble Thoughts on 3D ft. Jack Harlow:

- Feels like 3D is something that would have come out in 2006? I’m not mad about it but it does feel like Gen Z is taking this whole Y2K revival thing too seriously 🥹 like y’all have some big Air Force Ones to fill and I’d rather see a fresher take but okay

- Speaking of Nelly people are acting like they’ve never heard a rapper objectify a woman before and it’s kind of odd. I think maybe people haven’t listened to Jack Harlow before if they’re surprised by the contents of his verse. I’m not saying we can’t ask for more or expect more but the shock I’m seeing is kind of strange.

- JK does not sound that good...? To me. It seems like he’s maybe in too high of a register? Or maybe it’s too many minor chords for me. Not that he can’t hit the notes effortlessly but it’s just not a pleasant register to me? This is a song I can see getting stuck in my head in an annoying way and not a “omg I have to listen to it again turn it on” way, which is a bummer.

- I love the dancing, and the fire hydrant bit at the end was very cool visually.

- This whole thing reminds me strongly of some of Pharrell’s more controversial hits in the mid-aughts, especially Blurred Lines. Except… Blurred Lines was a better song 😬😬😬 if you’re gonna talk about women like they’re pleasure dolls in 2023, at least make sure your song is unusually good. Just my humble opinion.

- I think objectification is an interesting topic and we could go on about it, but some of the shocked and horrified responses I’m seeing on Twitter are from NSFW fan fiction writers (of which I am one full transparency) and artists and there is a blatant hypocrisy in that that I find somewhat amusing. Like. Very few of us are truly innocent of ever sexually objectifying someone else and let’s just be honest about that. Not to mention the objectification of Jung Kook’s every body part that has been happening recently, even up to as recently as the promotions for this specific song. Like… hang on a minute. We can all collectively drool over and go feral for and zoom in on his shirtless chest and talk about his waist and his nipples and his belly button but… god forbid he shares a song with someone doing the same thing? Idk maybe I’m oversimplifying.

- The “girl”!! Oh, people are gonna be mad. Why can’t he always only ever sing his songs to a faceless genderless “you”?! Because A) he is not writing these songs and requesting a gender change to a song that someone else wrote would be a declaration. B) I’ve said it before but it’s entirely possible he is into women. Again, he didn’t write this one but in a recent performance he did intentionally swap out a pronoun that he could have skipped and so let’s not make too much of it but let’s also not ignore him over and over again for the sake of our own beliefs. Not with bi visibility day still in the rear view 🥲 C) His behavior toward and about Jimin has not changed so I have not changed my attitude toward their relationship. Simple as that. D) he did not write this song. If he is queer he is closeted. Chill out.

- I want more for him, I’ll just say it! Lol. I think he has so much musical potential and right now it feels like we’re just waiting for him to actually come into it. But I do love the choreography, the boy band vibes, the confidence. I think I’m appreciating Left and Right more and more as time goes on; that seemed like a really excellent creative fit and the concept was so fun. But maybe I’m projecting my wishes onto him. It’s his career, not mine 😅 he is his own person, he doesn’t owe me a damn thing.

That’s all for now, just sort of felt like word vomiting this morning instead of doing anything productive. Would love to hear others’ thoughts!

#jeon jungkook #jungkook 3d #Jack Harlow and Jeon Jungkook

[johannestevans]

The Straight Male Gaze on Pretty Male Gays

How does it feel when straight men want to fuck us?

A quick little intro — I went ham on this one. I watched A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge and it just gave me a lot of feelings.

Warnings throughout this piece for discussion of the film’s gore and violence, the homophobia both in- and out- of universe, sexual violence, homophobia in general. I use a lot of slurs in this one because I self-identify with a lot of them, and a lot of this piece is about the ways in which queer identity is weaponised and not weaponised against us.

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There’s often a sense [in film and TV] of a woman being desirable as a sort of a trap for men — women are intentionally being desirable to trick men into doing something stupid as they foolishly follow their sexual desires, for which they should suffer.

And the thing is, as a gay man?

I experience that attitude from time to time.

Some of them are men who would ID themselves as queer, but others wouldn’t — and in fact I’d say that like. When I experience this sort of gaze from other queer men, it does feel wholly different.

Because when a queer man wants to fuck me, a queer man who’s involved in the queer community, to some extent, he is more comfortable, more confident, in what it means to be a queer man, what it means to desire and be desired by other men. I’m not saying that all queer men are perfect or that they’ve unlearned every horrible thing they’ve internalised, but like…

Being outwardly and openly gay, and being in community with and around other queer men, you know and recognise what straight men struggle to know and recognise about women — that the other man is a person too, that he has autonomy too, that he’s not an object or a passive target of your desire and sexuality, but a whole other person. You can still objectify other men, sure, but it’s not quite the same.

For cis straight men who desire a man, like… They’re not going to admit to it publicly, but I think that part of the desire for a pretty man is made accessible, or can only be accessed, by thinking of it as they would a woman. Or, even, thinking of that man as less than a woman — an entirely acceptable target to fuck, and even be violent in their sexuality toward. But to admit that to other men, to straight society, would be impossible, right? Because you’d be revealing yourself as a homo.

I often see the straight male gaze directed to women with desire. I infrequently see the queer male gaze directed to men with desire. I very rarely see the straight male gaze directed to men with anything but revulsion.

But tonight, I watched The Nightmare Before Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge.

Read on Medium / / Read on Patreon

#freddy kreuger #mark patton #a nightmare on elm street #freddy's revenge #musings

[nutmeggery]

The One Piece anime always felt so weird because Luffy makes friends with female characters who are constantly objectified and sexualized (and designed specifically to sell figures and merch) but Luffy himself never objectifies them because he's written exactly like an aroace character would be (intentionally).

So you have this weird experience of a show that puts big tiddy anime girls in your face but the male protagonist of said show doesn't give a shit and treats the girls like actual people and it feels like constant whiplash as the show alternates between fanservice and trying to treat the female characters seriously.

That's why I actually have hope that we'll get more live action because it's a chance to retell the story for a modern audience. Because objectifying 2D drawings is one thing as they're ultimately just drawings, but when you have real human beings playing these parts you have to treat them like real people.

#one piece #aroace-acting luffy really saves the anime tbh because if he'd acted like sanji it would be over

[stormblessed95]

Hi Storm! I'm an army but I'm pretty ignorant about kpop in general, so I was wondering if it is my impression or BTS are less sexualized than other groups.

I stumbled upon some videos and reels about girl groups that were less 'reserved', so to speak, and I sadly thought it was because they were girls, but I saw recently male idols doing suggestive dances and being topless, interacting more with girl groups.

So, is it my impression or BTS was never particularly sexualized? I think about run bts and other videos in which exposed parts of their bodies are always censored through their BT21 counterparts lol. I don't mean to judge, I don't think it's inherently good or bad to show their body during work (performances, photoshoots etc): I think it's good that they do what they're most comfortable with, so I was wondering if they ever said something about this, if it is their choice or the company's policy, I don't know.

Thank you!

Hi! I too, am only ARMY and don't tend to follow other groups, their performances or their fandom as much. So I also, can't probably compare and contrast as well as some others. So this might be a better question for someone like @beautifulpersonpeach as they seem pretty knowledgeable about more generalized kpop topics from what I've seen. I also know their ask box is overwhelming at the moment. So while it might be better to send such a question to them for input, idk how fast of a response you could expect. Lol

In regards to being sexualized though, I guess it depends on what you mean by that. Because it depends on your definition or what facet of sexualization you are referring to here. Because are BTS members sexaulized by their fandom to an objectifying degree and to a point it can be kinda gross? Yes. And if you haven't seen that, then that's not a bad thing lol but there are essentially p*rn accounts on here and other apps where all they do is hard core thirst and more. Lol

If you are talking about showing skin, then yes, they've done that too! And you are correct in that they don't do it as much or as often as lots of other groups out there who do just perform shirtless, where BTS for the most part, mostly tease hints of skin. But there have been purposefully flashes, especially recently and throughout various choreos over the years

As for the censoring that happens, the staff members do that as a form of consent for the members. And its not something they always did. It's one thing for the members to show skin on stage or on purpose. They made that choice, they consented. And it's another for skin to be shown when jumping around and accidentally and when they wouldn't otherwise be aware to say "yes, I'm fine showing off my nipples right now" lol so I think that's great honestly.

JinMins choice

Jimin half asleep and therefore not necessarily consenting/choosing to be shirtless on the ITS cameras, so censored

And like I said, they didn't use to. Hobi waking up during AHL in 2014, they didn't censor

As for doing sensual dances, together or with others. Yeah, that's never been something they've done a lot of. Again, no idea whose choice that was. We know that they used to include a shirt lift in WAB pt 2 but that the members expressed discomfort with that and so they stopped and changed the choreo to a hip thrust. But we've never seen intentionally sexy choreo with other groups. And I'd like to think they have a choice in that matter as well too. But who knows. We did have jikook CHOOSE to dance to coming of age which was a sensual dance with sexual lyrics, but they did it fully clothed. I mean, we did have a few times with younger jihope doing some bumping and grinding type dances together too. Lol but always just playing around and never really as a performance. BTS DID a lot more fanservice in their younger years then they do now. And I think that's what plays into this too.

So who knows, but I do think they have say in this NOW at least and they chapter 2 is clearly bringing a more open and sensual bangtan around too. They are making it clear they are all grown and sexy. But idk if we will ever see them fanservice it up in a sexualized manner with another group/artist on stage in the way you were talking about. I don't think we will ever see sexualized fanservice from BTS like we've seen from other groups. Which no shame to them either. Either with each other or with an other group collab, i think the most we will get seducedion wise is showing skin. Lol at least, thats how it's been so far

I don't know if this is exactly what you were asking about, but I hope it helped at least a bit. Of if you want to clarify further, please feel free to come back. Thanks for the ask!!

#fanservice showing skin and acting sexy #and then some lol

[faith--in-the-future]

kinda wanna hear your thoughts about louis not selling himself as sex symbol and not sexualizing women 👀 i find it very interesting and louis definitely does this intentionally even tho we all know that sex sell

as for him not sexualizing others I just think hes a better person than that, also someone who respects and values women more than that (we can see it in how he talks about us and how he treats his family/friends/colleagues) also he doesn't like when people objectify him imo so why would he do it to others?

as for him not sexualizing himself I think he really just wants people to appreciate him for his music and what he has to say, not what he looks like, I remember when someone asked him during the walls era if he knew fans consider him a sex symbol and he said well I think most of them are here for the music or something like that and I think that reflects his thoughts pretty well shsh I think there's also an element of awareness and sense of satisfaction that plays into it imo bc if you're as aware and intelligent as he is you know that being popular bc you're hot will never feel as good or as satisfying as knowing that people genuinely love your music and your work as an artist and it will never create the same connections and emotions that genuinely good music/art can create! plus I think he respects himself too much for it

#ask #anon

[ninareviewsfilms]

The Fantabulous Comeback of Harley Quinn

“Behind every great man is a badass broad!”

Birds of Prey: And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn follows the iconic antiheroine: Harley Quinn, as she navigates life after finally leaving her abusive and dependent ex, Joker. Unlike her previous fetishized depiction in Suicide Squad, Harley is no longer hyper-sexualized through the male gaze. Instead, the sequel consists of a female-fronted team, of all ages, races, and sexual orientations. Thus, the film is shown through both a female and queer gaze. It intentionally and unapologetically subverts the male gaze, but in an authentic way by focusing on the relationship between the five female characters. From cinematography to characterization, Birds of Prey quite literally said “fuck you” to Suicide Squad and completely reconstructed the gaze, surpassing its predecessor in every way possible.

Perhaps the most circulated image of Harley Quinn, is Margot Robbie stripping her clothes in Suicide Squad in an overtly sexual manner, shamelessly catering to the male gaze. It is interesting to note how only Harley had an undressing scene as her male counterparts stared in desire. Her body is constantly objectified by the camera through closeups of her bare body, almost never focusing on the face.

In Birds of Prey, a similar scene of undressing occurs, except this time, the cinematography does not objectify the female victim. The villain of the film, Black Mask, forces a man to undress a woman in public, with spectators all over. Instead of the camera closing in and panning on the undressed body, the cinematography focuses on the horrified face of the woman, and those around her. It reveals the villain’s nature without the expense of sexualizing the female victim. It doesn’t glorify rape culture like most, if not all, scenes of assaults on women do. Instead, the film accentuates the sheer pain and horror women feel when being sexually harassed or assaulted. And with that, a message to all male directors: it’s really not that difficult to show violence against women without sexualizing them.

In Suicide Squad, Harley was only seen through the views of others, but in Birds of Prey, she narrates her own story, displaying her independence and fun personality without being sexualized, or de-sexualized. The spectrum of women in superhero films is often either innocent and cute or overly sexualized and mischievous. Character development is non-existent. God forbid women are allowed to be complex and flawed. Relentlessly, Birds of Prey addresses this and seeks to set a new spectrum for women to exist outside of male desires. This is also seen in the characterization of men. The men, including the villains, are not all displayed in a “macho” or “manly” style. Instead of the sexualization of their ab muscles, we see their reserved personalities. Men actually show emotions (one even cries) in this film! They don’t have to be unemotional or bold, they can be calculating and resourceful – something apparently only women can be.

Moving on to the most obvious difference – Harley Quinn’s fantabulous ‘I-need-no-man’ makeover. Previously, Harley’s appearance in Suicide Squad is truly voyeuristic-scopophilia come to life, fetishized beyond belief. Thankfully she now sports colorful, and playful, outfits that put comfort above all. Yes, it is still revealing but it is evidently a creative choice made by Harley herself, reflecting her explosive personality. Instead of wearing lingerie to sexily fight (sorry boys), she can now comfortably kill in t-shirts and pants.

Finally, slipping in my favorite scene when Harley offers a hair tie to Black Canary mid-fight, I thought to myself: “this is it... this is what it is to be a woman.” As a woman, this is the ultimate form of solidarity. A small but powerful act that I’m sure all women have experienced. Truly, this is a film made by women, about women, for women.

Birds of Prey flips the switch from Suicide Squad, and introduces a new Harley Quinn: no longer Joker’s property, she becomes fiery, vibrant, and most importantly, an individual woman. Yes, she still has faults, and sure, she has brutally tortured and killed many, but it is precisely this freedom of flaws that breaks stereotypes and solidifies Birds of Prey as a superior woman’s film.   

#harley quinn #birds of prey #film review #birds of prey and the fantabulous emancipation of one harley quinn

[spidergwen-real-notclickbait]

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It is honestly incredible how either extremely unaware, or intentionally obtuse these people can get about what radical feminists actually believe and *why* we believe it. They can't get bothered to look up why we state with statistical and scientific points that any system meant to comodify, monetizise, objectify and sexualize women and children is wrong and shouldn't exist nor have inmense power, no matter how much it may make some very few ones "feel good" individually when it still cause more pain and suffering to the mayority regardless.

But then again, it is honestly very rich to expect any kind of nuance about women and children rights and oppression from the almost cultish community/ideology whose main fundament it's that as long as you don't physically hurt with your very own hands women, children, animal, and even homosexuals. Then your fixation, endorsement and promotion of Rape, VAW, Child abuse, homosexual fetishization, zoophilia, bdsm and all kinds of abusive porn it's okay and valid and even inherently "Queer" ://

anon i'm so sorry I took forever to reply to this but you're exactly right

its been said countless times but its so true that these people think that every action they take exists in a vacuum and has no effect at all on anyone else

but honestly I think deep down they do fully know that they're hurting others, indirectly or not, but they're too selfish to stop partaking in things they enjoy at the expense of others so they try their hardest to convince themselves that they're not actually hurting anyone despite knowing it's a lie (would 'gaslighting themselves' be an appropriate term here???), and this very conveniently links with my thought that modern day 'liberalism' is just extreme individualism pretending to be leftist politics to appeal to younger people when if anything its more right leaning (gonna make a post about this one day)

also regarding the fact that they seem to not know what radfems believe in I kinda have 2 theories

they know fully well what we believe and what our ideology is, but due to fear, maybe of being kicked out of their 'qu**r' community or something else liken that, they pretend not to know so they're not kicked out of these communities, or

they're too scared to actually read into our ideology as they're scared that they'll agree with us

#anon #radical feminism #gender critical #politics

[topgunreacts]

🖊️+ vinh!

Answering for both anons here. I did a list because essays are hard and it’s a Friday.

Vinh Heatherly is an intersex male omega from Vietnam: three traits that make him a target in an already bigoted country after the Vietnam War. The fact that he gets a masters in chemistry and successfully runs a business is due to a number of things he has going for him, determination and a supportive partner being two examples.

Male omegas in this verse are simultaneously sexualized and infantilized. Intersex people are sexualized and/or infantilized in real life. Vietnamese people in the US can be sexualized and/or infantilized in real life depending on context and location (race politics are complicated when international borders come into play, so treatment within other cultures varies). So I wanted Vinh to be confident with his sexual side and assertive without slipping over into gross objectifying. It’s something that requires balance to work well, and the result will never make everyone happy. I worked with queer and Vietnamese friends to have extra eyes on Vinh’s characterization, and I’m pleased with how he came out.

Vinh is not in Marrying the Hangman to be the cautionary tale, a Mary Sue, or a helpless victim. Because we see him through Maverick, it’s easy to get the wrong idea. Several times, Maverick makes assumptions about Vinh that turn out not to be true at all. Vinh is complicated like any other person, and it’s obvious by the end that he’s been wearing a mask of perfection around Maverick because that’s what he thinks Maverick needs.

Jester loves Vinh very much. He is not perfect either, but he tries very hard to be a good husband and is quick to admit wrongdoing. It’s much easier to see this in The Scent of Apple Blossoms, which is Vinh’s side story, but Jester first takes the “I don’t see color” approach to Vinh’s identities to disastrous effect. He thinks he’s being kind by ignoring or seeing ‘beyond’ Vinh being triply oppressed, but (1) Vinh is proud of who and what he is, so letting his identity go ignored is disrespectful at best, actively damaging at worst, and (2) implicit bias never sleeps, so whether or not Jester wants to admit it, his mind recognizes and responds to who/what Vinh is. He got better.

I intentionally gave Vinh interests that have nothing to do with his relationship (photography) and everything to do with his relationship (baking). Photography is something he picks up during the war, and represents the way he detaches himself from reality to cope. Taking a photo of something instead of experiencing it face to face drives that home, metaphorically. He’s there, but he’s not There. He lives his life in artificial snapshots that are carefully selected or even set up to be exactly how he wants them to be. And baking is something he picks up in America because he thinks that if he isn’t constantly useful to Jester that he isn’t worth keeping around. Very common trauma response to try and make someone need you.

His cat is my cat. I have a tiny, old-ass, long haired calico and I insert her into fictional Situations.

#top gun #marrying the hangman #top gun fanfiction #my oc do not steal #that’s an ancient sonic fandom joke #writing #ask #being serious on tumblr is exhausting how do people do it #Vinh Heatherly

[jodistorian]

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It is honestly incredible how either extremely unaware, or intentionally obtuse these people can get about what radical feminists actually believe and *why* we believe it. They can't get bothered to look up why we state with statistical and scientific points that any system meant to comodify, monetizise, objectify and sexualize women and children is wrong and shouldn't exist nor have inmense power, no matter how much it may make some very few ones "feel good" individually when it still cause more pain and suffering to the mayority regardless.

But then again, it is honestly very rich to expect any kind of nuance about women and children rights and oppression from the almost cultish community/ideology whose main fundament it's that as long as you don't physically hurt with your very own hands women, children, animal, and even homosexuals. Then your fixation, endorsement and promotion of Rape, VAW, Child abuse, homosexual fetishization, zoophilia, bdsm and all kinds of abusive porn it's okay and valid and even inherently "Queer" ://

absolutely braindead. “waaah some surrogates like being pregnant” “waaah some women like porn” same shit over and over again.

always very telling how threatened they feel by pedophilia and other abuse being banned. theyre really one step away from accepting pedos as kweers.

#ask

[gracegrove]

so let's talk scene analysis shall we?

we've all established that relationship between karen wheeler and billy hargrove is problematic. that's not up for debate here in the slightest.

what i would instead like to discuss is the scene set up and how the duffers tailored that initial scene in a way that intentionally adultified and objectified billy and sexualized karen and set unsuspecting viewers up to consume a scene as being flirtatious and sexual and also consensual from the jump. that if a viewer doesn't think critically, and if they take the scene fully at face value as the duffers intended... then it looks like a scene being exchanged between mutually consenting adults who are entirely aware of all possible actions and consequences.

so let's start from the top.

it's a weekend evening. supposedly a saturday or sunday based on the timeline. in early november. it's well after dark. ted is asleep in his recliner. holly is asleep in his lap. ... he was most likely supposed to put her to bed but didn't and now they're both fast asleep. anyways...

karen is in the bath. with her book. and her pile of lit candles. and bubbles. when the doorbell rings. and again. and again and again.

she's screaming for ted to get it but he's asleep which pisses her off because clearly she was having 'me time' and she was not expecting company. so now she has to pry herself out and answer the door.

she flies down the stairs in just her bathrobe, quickly ties it and flings open the door. instantly surprised by this (taller than her) boy on the doorstep. the sexy background music starts playing the minute the door opens.

she's immediately taken by him and for a split second worries that she's not wearing enough clothing. he flirts. basically compliments her for looking young and pretty. strokes her ego. she loves it. but she knows he must be here to pick up nancy. oh but he's not?

he's looking for his sister? oh what a good brother. she's even more drawn in. such intense eye contact. he's leaning on the doorframe. she's invited him in. given him a cookie. got out her address book.

more flirting. the breathy way she tells him to drive slowly... the way he says always... oh ... and yell at my own child too while you're over there. she watches him leave through the door and she makes this little harumph noise and chews her cheek like she's got it bad for this kid.

so ... that's all face value.

now let's think a bit here.

it's the weekend. it's after dark. if ted's already knocked out in the armchair with holly and karen's gone to the trouble of drawing herself a bath it's probably well after dinner. it's probably close to like 9pm maybe later.

she lit all those damn candles. put in bubble bath. got her trashy novel. she planned on being in there a while. definitely did not expect company at all. she was winding down for the night. so technically (except the duffers kept it for the aesthetic of the scene..) she would have also taken off her makeup. her night is winding down. this is her time. most likely a relaxation ritual she clings to. and she probably would've gone right to bed after if the night had gone uninterrupted.

when she realizes that she has no choice but to get out and answer the door you can see she's annoyed. nobody is supposed to interrupt this sacred time of hers. now this is another choice i think the duffers made for the sake of the scene... she comes down in just a long bathrobe. i'm still debating whether karen would actually do that. or if this is more to do with the scene writing to immediately raise the stakes and make it sexier. because karen in every other scene always appears to be a woman who is well put together. she's always up on the latest trends. someone who cares, probably sometimes too much (at times) what others think of her. and so even if she's annoyed or in a hurry to answer the door and then get back to her bath. i still think based on the personality her actress and the writing put forth, that it would've made more sense that she'd have hopped quickly into a pair of pjs she set out. because she wouldn't want anyone to think she answers the door "like that"... suppose someone else had been at the door? ... it just felt like a piece that immediately sexualized her. and billy came to the door pre-sexualized with his shirt as it was. so...

immediately opening the door. it's karen who reacts first. billy wasn't even looking at first until he sees her dumbstruck face and then smirks because he knows how he can game this system. easy peasy. this pta mom will be way easy to get answers out of even if max isnt at her house. so he dials up the charm times a thousand. and she falls right into the trap.

also. she didn't even look before opening the door. she just threw it wide open. in her bathrobe that she suddenly becomes conscious of seconds later...why worry now about wearing so little when you were fine about flinging the door open with no qualms three seconds ago? most parents always tell their children to check or look out before opening the door. totally just throws that to the wayside. even though she's never seen this boy before in her life.

he says hi. she says hi. let's him flirt. drinks in all his compliments. all before she finally asks him who he is. nevermind all that... "i didnt realize nancy has a sister..." he clearly knows her daughter. why does he know her daughter? hmmm? who is he and why is he on her porch? she doesn't question that at all. he's just here to get nancy... at this time of night. it took her forever to learn who steve harrington was... so karen must either be very oblivious to what goes on in nancy's life and/or nancy purposely avoids bringing boys to the house for various reasons. which is another interesting thought.

he shares he's looking for max who hangs out with lucas... and therefore also mike. clearly karen's face shows she has no idea who this kid is... strike two that karen doesn't have a whole lot of knowledge on what her kids get up to. oh 'here he is' because her house is the designated hangout. isn't he so sweet? it implies she's the hip involved mom... which she most definitely isn't.

she brings him into the house. when she still really has no damn clue who he is. she has no damn clue who his sister is either so why? except he told her she looked young and beautiful i guess? and yet another writing choice, where the further sexualization of both characters in this scene moves it forward that it becomes 'acceptable' to bring him into the house. because truthfully he should have waited at the door even with his puppy-eyed flirting while she brought him what he wanted. information.

gives him a cookie. he looked hungry i suppose. gives him the byers' address and tells him to drive careful. oh, and while you're there can you tell mike to come home while you're at it? strike three that karen just doesn't give much of a damn as a parent. if she wanted mike home already she could've called the byers' house or gone over herself if she's that damn concerned which she clearly is not. so here billy. have a side quest... and a cookie.

"i'll see you later' more sexy music as billy walks out the door. implying that this is going to become very much a thing. she's looking at him damn near swooning. when he gets in the car looking annoyed as all hell and peeling down the empty street driving very much as uncareful as he can.

@every-dayiwakeup @ickypuppi3 @eddiebillysteve

#been thinking about this scene forever just hadnt had time to go on about it til now #billy #billy hargrove

[rawiswhore]

Jerry Lynn x Fem Reader- "Who's Your Teddy?"

A teddy isn't just a bear or a nickname for Theodore, a teddy also was a type of lingerie and sleepwear that women would wear, especially during the 1970's and 1980's.

At the end of 1997, you were wearing a lot less clothing than usual, sometimes basically wearing things that were lingerie and sleepwear.

On an August episode of "Shotgun Saturday Night", you helped lead Hunter Hearst Helmsley to the ring for a match he had against Jerry Lynn---the same Jerry Lynn that would eventually join ECW and Total Nonstop Action.

When you escorted Hunter to the ring, you were dressed in a very short, silky, spaghetti strap teddy like what Suzanne Somers wore on the cover of a Newsweek magazine issue in the 1970's.

The teddy you were wearing was the same kind of teddy Mr. Roper's niece wore in that "Three's Company" episode where she drops her dress and reveals a silky teddy, only for Jack Tripper to open a can of soda where soda shoots out to simulate ejaculation.

The teddy you wore had these very short little shorts, it wasn't a teddy that looked like a one piece swimsuit.

As you walked down to the ring in that teddy, the fans eyes were on you, especially the male fans, many of those male fans whistling at you, whistling like how they did at an attractive women (that's called a "wolf whistle").

Jerry Lawler wouldn't stop sexually objectifying you on commentary, and likewise, his eyes were completely on you as you led Hunter to the ring.

Jerry's eyes were staring at you and nearly bugging out while he smiled from ear to ear.

"She's wearing underwear and not ashamed of it!" Jerry exclaimed happily. "She's not wearin' as much as she used to!"

You didn't wear a bra underneath your teddy, and your nipples were somewhat poking through the fabric of your teddy.

You stood next to the ring throughout this match and outside of the ring, watching what goes on.

You were cheering for Hunter, beating your hands on the ring.

Sometimes during this match, one of the straps of your teddy would fall down the bicep of your arm without even your hand holding that strap and sliding it down, intentionally or unintentionally, whereas you would pull up.

If one of your straps slid down your arm, some male fans in the audience cheered, hoping to see some nudity.

However, your breasts weren't exposed when the straps of your teddy slung down your arms.

You even jumped up and down a few times, which made your breasts under your teddy bounce, nearly almost enough for your tits to pop and spring out of your lingerie, which many of the audience was hopeful for.

The camera filmed and caught one of the straps of your teddy sliding down without even your hand pulling it down your bicep, as well as filmed you jumping up and down sometimes.

For some fan service and as a distraction, you walked up the little set of stairs that led up to the ring and walked next to the ropes, stopping at a place where Jerry Lynn was.

The camera followed you walking up those stairs, whereas the male fans and Jerry Lawler were eager in seeing what you were going to do.

Some of those male fans whistled at you as you walked up those stairs and next to the ropes.

When you were walking next to the ropes as well as up the stairs, the straps of your teddy surprisingly didn't fall down.

As you stood there looking at Jerry Lynn in the ring with a smirk on your face, your hands gently took the straps of your teddy and slid them off of your shoulders to entice him and grab his attention.

Many male fans were cheering for you for sliding the straps down off of your shoulders, not to mention were giving a few wolf whistles to you.

Some male fans even chanted "Take it off!" over and over again.

You pulling the straps down nearly made fans eager to think one of your breasts would fall out as the straps slid lower.

Jerry Lynn's peripheral vision saw you standing by the ropes, which distracted him and his eyes were now completely focused on you instead.

If your teddy had buttons in the middle of the torso area, like that teddy Suzanne Somers wore on the cover of "Newsweek" about "sex and TV", you would've unbuttoned that teddy to him and showed off your bare torso.

Jerry couldn't help but raise himself up until he stood and slowly walked up to you just to see you seemingly undressing for him, it's like he was in a trance.

He was pulling into you and attracted to you like a magnet, and you were seemingly pulling him closer to you without your hands grabbing him and yanking him to you.

If the straps of your teddy now located at your biceps could slide down any lower, your breasts would be exposed.

Could he see you sliding the straps of your teddy down?

Your teddy isn't very boldly colored.

While Jerry was distracted over you, Hunter attacked Jerry Lynn, which the audience reacted to.

It was all a trick.

You quickly slid the straps of your teddy back to your shoulders and placed them there, where you walked next the ropes and down the stairs, only to watch this match by the ring.

 You could've entered the ring and stood next to Jerry Lynn and slid the straps of your teddy down to distract him, but didn't.

Debra McMichael would do things like that when she would join the WWF 2 years later.

#jerry lynn #wwf #1997 #90s #hunter hearst helmsley

[johannestevans]

oh patron saint of boy sluts, how do you know if a guy is a chaser? I recently downloaded grindr and I really don't know where in a conversation that mostly consists of "hey what's up" "what are you looking for?" "want to hook up rn?" I would like ask a question to find out (what question even) or find out otherwise unless they say something about how they are only into afab people with a front hole/ trans men or something lol. Like if I'd ask if they're a chaser and or if they like cis dick as well they would probably lie if they are a chaser? Maybe I just hook up too quickly and I should talk more and longer to find out but uh do I want to keep talking? Not really. I suppose maybe it doesn't matter whether he's straight or not since I'm just gonna get fucked and never see him again but i don't really want to fuck a straight guy/chaser

Nah, it absolutely does matter.

If a straight man sees you as a woman, he's more likely to have a blasé approach to whether you consent to sex, let alone whether you enjoy yourself, and that's not something you need to deal with or open yourself up to - there's no need to deal with creeps who want to misgender you or only see trans people as fetish objects.

I personally think chasers are creeps, and I don't fuck self-identified straight guys or closeted bi guys who don't hang out with other queer men, have a lot of internalised homophobia, and are attached to the straight label, just because like... You have to unpack a lot of stuff and be quite vulnerable to embrace your attraction to other men, and that vulnerability is important when realising not only your own sexual desires but the needs and wants of other people.

When someone is like "Oh, I'm not queer, I'm just into transgender people," it's often from a place of objectifying us and seeing us as fetish objects as well as insecurity about their own desires, and when someone lowkey sees you as an object and is reducing you just to your fetish appeal, there's no reason you should trust them to treat you well or safely. This applies not just to being trans, but also from a racial POV, as a disabled person, etc.

Completely fine to engage in this sort of fetish play with a trusted partner if that's your thing, but if chasers give you the ick, it's a completely normal and understandable one to have.

This is from my Grindr guide for trans men, the section on chasers at the end:

How do I deal with chasers?

Some people fuck chasers — I definitely think there’s degrees to how much someone is weird or uncomfortable. Some people are fine with being someone’s fetish or someone specifically getting off on them being a man with a cunt or whatever.

How do you know if someone’s a chaser?

I’ll be honest, if I see a cisgender man and he’s found my profile via the ftm or trans tag — which you can tell when he messages you — I put him in the chaser box and normally just block. If a cisgender man’s profile says he’s “into Trans and femboys” or something similar, I normally just block. If a guy says he’s into “smooth” — which means hairless — I normally block, because I’m hairy as fuck, and he’s only assuming I wouldn’t be because I’m transgender.

A lot of people aren’t being intentionally weird or unkind when they have this shit in their profile, or even when they ask stupid questions — a lot of cis people are just ignorant as fuck, and don’t know shit about trans people.

You will have people who think you’re a trans woman, because they think “transgender” = trans women exclusively.

But some people who are chasers just act weird as Hell — they might feel entitled to touch your body or think about it in a certain way, you might be an “experiment” in a way that feels uncomfortable for you, they might want to ignore certain boundaries (eg, not wanting your chest touched, not wanting your front hole penetrated), etc.

One of the tricks that I use to see if a cis man is gonna be a freak is I just correct him on a bit of language. I personally am pretty indiscriminate about the language I use for my body parts, but I might correct him on a small thing — if he calls it a “clit”, I might say “I prefer cock, actually”; if he says “Pussy”, I might say, “call it a cunt, please”.

If he has a tantrum about it or generally acts like a bellend, that is a sign he’s probably going to be worse about other boundaries I set.

#musings #anonymous

[sixstepsaway]

Not to send you into another Izzy rage (unless you want one) but I saw another hideously bad take about Izzy objectifying Ed during the ep10 argument scene? Sigh. Really goes to show the lack of ability to attribute normal human emotions to Izzy. He can't be angrily yelling at Ed because he's angry his friend has had a massive behavior change and is nothing like the man he thought he knew. Izzy must have intentionally hit a vulnerable spot so he would get a sexual thrill from Ed being a sexy dom who chokes men. He didn't gently reach out to touch the face of a man who was finally behaving like his old self out love for his old friend, only creepy lust. And Izzy is such a creepy objectifier! Look how Ed looks uncomfortable and knocks him away. Never mind that Ed choked him against the wall, that's not objectifying so it's okay. Oh, and by the way, tell me if you got my Ask about the first Daddy Dom on the good ship, uh, Big Daddy. It may have disappeared in a tragic Tumblr accident And also if you want me to NOT occasionally send you daddies, say so. Making up lots of boyfriends for Izzy makes me feel better. The poor guy.

Oh, I enjoy my Izzy rages!

Gonna reply to the end of this first, then swing back up: I have two asks from you in my box; Monday and Sunday. If there's more, I don't have more, I just have those two.

I promise I'm not ignoring them and you're not annoying me or anything like that, I enjoy your daddy dom and related asks very much (even though I might not always have a long/deep reply for them, I'm not amazing at replies to more general things than meta) it's just that yesterday was a high stress day for me. I spent the whole day knowing I had to make a phone call at the end of my day (I'm nocturnal, so 9am when places open is the end of my day) and not just any phone call, but I had to call a vet about my duck. Then there was also the incident with the AO3 comment, and I spent most of the day compiling my metas and word counting them (40k) so I could add them to my general word count for the year. With all that, I didn't have a lot of time to reply to more than a few messages! But I'm going to get to your messages today!

And, I don't know if you noticed, but I gave you your own tag on my blog! So I can keep you and your collection of daddies sub-categorized!

Right, moving on to the rest:

I can see what's happening re: Izzy. First, they decided he's homophobic because of the daddy scene and the 'namby pamby' comment (I've also seen people double down on that, despite Izzy being in love with Ed and thusly queer himself. And I do know that queer people can be homophobic and queerphobic, but it does deeply change the angle from which that homophobia or queerphobia is coming, and also I stand by my reasoning that if Izzy was homophobic, Ed would have punted him by now, because he would have shown it around Jack; his issues aren't homophobia, they're "you're not being a proper pirate" or "you're not doing your job", and possibly a perpetuation of a cycle of abuse he received, that he isn't looking at critically enough to realize he's acting like a homophobe at Lucius).

So, the "he's homophobic!" didn't work at shaming fans into hating him, so they levelled it up: he's a racist fetishizer. Another read that, although I can understand people having that read or being uncomfortable with how he acts, it's been pointed out by a black fan, in fact (among others as well), that considering the effort OFMD puts into actively telling racists to go fuck themselves, it would be poor writing on OFMD's part to let Izzy slide the way the show does. It's also worth noting that being rude or abrasive to a person of color does not an instant racist make, it can just be a person-on-person issue. That is actually a thing. Furthermore, which is another thing said in that piece and what I am referencing, the idea that Izzy wants Edward to be violent because he's a man of color, not because he's a pirate is not only laughable but a downright daft read, because everyone on that ship is a pirate and violent. If Ed was the only person of color it might be problematic, but they're all so diverse and such a wonderfully mixed bag it means that Ed being a person of color is not why Izzy wants him to be violent.

And we've discussed at length here why Izzy likely wants Ed to be violent (pirate! safety! protection! vulnerability!) so I won't dig back in here.

When "racist!" and "homophobic!" didn't work, they started saying he was abusive, to which most of us said, "He was a meanie pants and then Edward cut off his toe and fed it to him? That is not Izzy being abusive. If you want to pick someone in that sequence who is abusive, it is most certainly Ed, did we watch the same show? Ed cutting off his toe can't even be labelled as reactive abuse (eg. the victim of abuse gets abused to such an extent they start to strike back, somewhat mimicking their abuser's actions) because it's such a massive escalation from nasty words to outright permanent physical violence."

So now those three things don't work because the arguments either don't hold weight (abusive), would make the show infinitely less good and well put together than it is right now and undermine a lot of the messages (racist), or is undermined itself by Izzy being in love with another man (homophobic), they've moved on to saying he's a fetishizer, because that makes sense, right? Telling us who love him that we're fetishizers didn't work, so they'll tell us that he's the fetishizer.

Lots of people have explained better than I ever could that the word 'fetishize' is being misused at length, but the tl;dr is that fetishizing is very different to 'finding someone attractive' or 'enjoying when they act a certain way'. A fetish is something that is attractive to a person that isn't naturally supposed to be. Finding someone's lips or tits hot isn't a fetish, finding someone's feet hot is, because it's not really meant as a sexual thing. It also doesn't mean it's a bad thing, it's just a term. Fetishizing and sexualizing are both ridiculous terms, especially when they're being applied to one grown adult finding another grown adult attractive or sexy in some way.

It's also weird to read Izzy cupping Ed's cheek with tears in his eyes as sexual rather than romantic or just affectionate. Ed has been a mess for days, and considering Ed was actively discussing suicide in 1x04 when they first boarded the Revenge (something Izzy looks devastated about, by the way, and then tries very hard to put aside as, "Well that makes no fucking sense!" and ignore because how, how, how do you handle something like that? How do you instantly swallow down that the person you love most on this godforsaken Earth is considering dying as a good idea because of the mental instability you've been spending most of your energy trying to stabilize for what seems like it might be years?) and has spent 3 days crying in a blanket fort and seeming completely not himself (and I've seen people say what he's doing is a healthy mechanism for getting over and through a breakup, and I don't disagree, but I do think he's also trying to become Stede and I'm not really sure that's as healthy as the crying and songwriting and letting out his feelings) on top of being apathetic and lethargic and disinterested in everything before they boarded the Revenge, and finally there's a spark, a hint of who he used to be, and Izzy is clutching desperately to it because he wants his person back!!!

Sure, maybe the chokeslam turned him on, but as we've discussed here before: physical reactions are not something we control. You can be turned on by something you are actively disgusted by and do not want in the slightest. Bodies are betrayers when it comes to things like this. Izzy potentially being turned on by being chokeslammed by the person he's most attracted to and in love with isn't shocking and doesn't mean he was, in that moment, lusting after Ed and hoping that being mean to him would lead to them boning against the wall, it just doesn't.

So now we've done racist, homophobic, abusive and fetishizing, I assume the next steps over the next couple of weeks will be firstly that Izzy and Edward have clearly been a twosome for many years, and thusly it's incestuous because they're brother-coded (rather than canonically framed as being married couple coded), and then either because Izzy is historically 16 (much like Stede is historically 29) or because he's short (and frankly I do not know which one is worse), the argument will be we're all horrible people for shipping them, not because Izzy could get hurt but because we're turning Ed into a sex offender.

Can't wait to see that unravel between now and s2!!!

Please continue to send me lots of daddy dom and Izzy asks, I love receiving them and waking up to asks about Izzy makes me unfathomably happy.

#izzy's dd anon #ask

[aspoonfuloffiction]

I kinda see what you're saying but at the same time disagree 😅 The thing is Anthony doesn't really sexually objectify Edwina. See's her as the pretty wife he's suppose to have but that's it really. I actually think the writers and Jonny made specific choices to not make us to feel icky about the situation by showing Anthony is never motivated by his attraction to Edwina. He's motivated out of his sense of duty and then later his struggle over his attraction towards Kate. Majority of Anthony's interactions with edwina were just very platonic and most of his courting with her were more inspired and motivated by Kate than Edwina herself. That's what I meant when I said I was relieved the writers never went down the road of Anthony being that sexually into Edwina because their age difference and her being so sheltered makes it so gross. Her being pretty is just one qualification on his list of a wife he can be distant with. I think the writing intentionally made it clear Anthony was never sexually fantasizing about Edwina or that desperate to sleep with her.

I think we’re on the same page just approaching it differently.

I do believe you’re right that he’s not motivated out of attraction to pursue Edwina nor does he like desperately want to have sex with her. And I agree that Anthony’s primary driving force in regards to Edwina is society and the expectations he believes he has to fulfill.

That said I’m more talking about the way he views Edwina. There were other women he could have had but he needed his future wife to look appropriately hot. Like if the Queen had named a woman that he didn’t find attractive I do not think he’d stick to the I’ll just marry the Diamond schtick.

And this was a part of my biggest issues with S2 I thought there was an arc of Anthony learning that women had value but really he only cares about women with the last name Bridgerton. I thought we were going from this kind of gross initial pursuit of Edwina to a man that acknowledges his bias and respect women that he doesn’t have to because he’s related to them. I thought thats what the Sheffield dinner was but even that was about Kate.

I love Jonathan Bailey calls out Anthony’s toxic masculinity I just don’t think its fixed now that he’s married to Kate.

#bridgerton #asks

[lycanthology]

dont understand why so many ppl think its weird to say a body shouldnt be sexualized unless someone is intentionally being sexual. ppl are just so addicted to objectifying strangers esp women they think society will collapse if they cant comment on a womans tits or ass at any time. if its inappropriate to say to a strangers face it shouldnt be said to anyone at all imo!