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greenwire · 2 years

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Matt Walsh, the conservative podcaster man, made that documentary. And ever since, there's been nothing but seething. And this article especially rubbed me the wrong way.

Firstly, there's this:

Yeah, how dare a "random African tribe" have an opinion on gender! The reason why Walsh "picked a random African tribe" is because for well over a decade now, gender theorists and online commentators have claimed that the sex binary is a white colonialist invention. That's why. And here you are sniffing that it's so "unhinged" to ask African people what they think. I think Matt Walsh is an absolute fucking racist, but you're over here dismissing the opinions of rural Africans out of hand, without having even heard what those opinions are.

This is an entire video and article response to the documentary, and you're not going to watch it? You'd literally rather put cat pee in your mouth than hear an opinion you know you'll disagree with??

The next five paragraphs go into the dishonesty of creationists. The author actually says, "why am I talking so much about evolution?" The answer to that is that the theory of natural selection is backed up by science, and the idea that you can change your biological sex with exogenous hormones and experimental surgeries is not. So it's more convenient for you to conflate the two and pretend that males can be women, if they really want to be.

Okay, so finally, at the end of the video, the answer to the question, "what is a woman?" It's supposed to be non-circular and not reliant on sex stereotypes.

"a person society associates with the female sex" sounds better than "anyone who identifies as a woman." But how does society associate a person with the female sex? Gender roles. As in, this is just saying "a woman is anyone who performs sufficient femininity and/or can be clearly recognized as an adult human female." To define women by femininity is sexist toward women. To even deny us a cohesive class, especially when our abusers and oppressors can clearly place us there, is sexist.

But anyone who has been in the community knows another glaring problem with this statement: the person making it is inadvertently excluding transwomen who don't pass. In fact, that takes the identity away from transwomen and puts it back to society. That means misgendering doesn't exist anymore. I've seen you, I'm part of society, I've decided whether or not you're a woman. Additionally, how does this jibe with the notion that transwomen not only are, but always have been women?

Even this youtuber is adding in caveats (about fifteen minutes worth) to this supposed simple, one-sentence definition, and saying it doesn't cover all the circumstances. No shit. When "woman" has to be a term open to anyone who claims it, but closed to anyone who doesn't claim it (yet), it'll sound like this.

I don't subscribe to Matt Walsh's theories or opinions on any other topic I've heard him elaborate. And I've only seen a heavily edited video of his Dr. Phil appearance. But on this one facet of this one topic, he's right. Biological sex is immutable. Women are adult human females. To open up the class of "women" to males means that "women" has to be reliant on sex stereotypes rather than sex.

#intellectual dishonesty #logical consistency #fuckin hypocrites

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osogitz · 2 years

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*sigh* ... ok ... let’s tackle this differently...

I see, once again, the intellectually dishonest “discussion” of female space marines has come up. Not surprised. It usually happens this time every year because woke idealogues cant help but project their cult into everything they touch. So I am gonna do something different this time. And something i know you aren’t suppose to do which is entertain idiocy. But I have never been the sharpest tool in the box. I am going to issue all a challenge. (Yes, that includes myself. Wouldn’t be fair otherwise. The whole “rules for you, not for me thing.) One of the handful of challenges GW would have if they wanted to recanonize it (I will get back to this later) Explain in lore, WITH RESPECT AND REGARD FOR IT AS IT CURRENTLY IS, a female Astartes existence. Rules: A) You must do so without it injecting modern day dogma. If you do, you have failed. Just as GW would as well. Despite what you might think, there are decently reasonable people that are just tired of everything being socially and politically motivated and just want the product to be better. The quickest way to lose these people will be to echo that same mentality. There will always be more of them, than you. So DON’T. Again, Doing so for GW would be failure on their part, so it’s a failure here for you too. B) You DO NOT get to cherry pick “outdated” lore for your justification. If i do not get to do it for “men only”, you don’t get to either. Outdated will be defined as anything that is reinforced in some way canonically in or after third edition. Whether it be by Novels or codexes. notes: If you TRULY love this property and want to see it grow for the better, you will never be able to do so by tying it down to “CURRENT YEAR”. It needs to be timeless. Your woke political bullshit is not timeless. History has shown us this. I mentioned intellectual dishonesty earlier. Yes, that’s what this discussion always is. It’s roots are always “Boys arent allowed to have their own spaces but women can” kind of hypocrisy. Always includes constant gas lighting by accusing people of misogyny. It’s never about making the brand better. yes. I am aware of the old pre(?) first edition Female space marines models. I didn’t until recently, Interesting discovery. Clearly GW abandoned the idea for financial reasons (more likely, target demographic reasonings). They probably influenced the existence of SoB and I love me some SoB. But this is old lore, and the goal post moving hypocrits always love to say “that’s old and outdated, you cant use that”. So im drawing the line and saying niether of us can. I realize and expect that doing this on Tumblr will have the same exact effect as if I had done it on twitter. The internet’s idiocy and dishonesty honestly knows no bounds. But if someone doesn’t try to at least be somewhat constructively critical, no honesty is had.

I will check this post every other day until the end of June. At which time, I will post my answer to my own challenge. I realize for many “man of my word” is a dead product. I can assure you, it is not for me. I have been involved with Warhammer 40000 in one way or another for twenty years of my life. Hobby, gaming, video gaming, reading, all of it (though, i admit i havent had time to read alot of the recent stuff) I am indeed, passionate about the universe and that’s what I want you to do. If you took the time to read this, thank you for your time. I look forward to your responses.

#Warhammer #astartes #space marines #Intellectual dishonesty #challenge #criticism #story writing #Have a nice day #warhammer community

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arcenciel-par-une-larme · 2 years

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Dear brother in Christ,

The next time you come across someone who slaps you with the old, tired cliche of "Christianity is not about giving the right answers, but asking the right questions!", be aware that he is likely telling you the truth.

He wants to allow your (and his?) religion to ONLY ask questions, because he wants the world to provide the answers. And he's probably mad that you don't share his enthusiasm for a paradigm where the world calls the shots.

Don't fall for it.

#christianity #orthodox #catholicism #traditional anglican #sophistry #intellectual dishonesty #anti sjw #personal post archive #consistently indistinguishable from the world

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thesongthesoulsings · 2 months

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#hypocrisy #conservative #libertarian #meme #funny #intellectual dishonesty #indoctrination

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voidmountain · 4 months

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somerton post!

I’m a queer academic. I study film & lit. I’ve published 3 peer-reviewed journal articles and 6 magazine articles. I’m working on a book manuscript. Meticulously researched, multi-year projects, thousands of hours of 100% solo work. No co-writer, no proofreader, no copyeditor, &c &c.

All of this is unpaid. All of it! I do it because I love it and not for any other reason!

An adjunct prof just starting out can expect to make less than $25k/year.

That’s the context. That’s who he’s ripping off. That’s who is doing the real intellectual work of creating, testing, writing, & sharing these ideas. Just fyi.

Edit to add: around the world humanities departments, that employ people to do the thing James somerton said he was doing but better, are in crisis mode and hemorrhaging money because there’s this impression that nobody values humanities research. And yet. Here’s this guy. Making $170k/year by ripping us off.

#james somerton #somerton #in my world we call this intellectual dishonesty lol #anyway if you want to read my articles dm me :)#why pay a random fucking guy hundreds of thousands of dollars when you can just read shit for free

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religion-is-a-mental-illness · 1 year

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Just moronic how you generalize all religions. Not all Christians are the way you described. Guess who saw Christianity your way also?

"Christianity is an invention of sick brains." - Adolf Hitler

I have an entire post of two dozen quotes, one after the next after the next in which Hitler affirms his Xianity. I had to abbreviate the post because I could have kept going. His religious devotion and motivation is well documented by historians.

"Christianity is an invention of sick brains." - Adolf Hitler

Said by somebody with a sick brain. 🤷‍♀️

https://religion-is-a-mental-illness.tumblr.com/post/640088403701055488

Here's a taste:

In a speech delivered in front of a Nazi audience in April 1922, Hitler made a more explicit reference to Christianity, referring to Jesus as “the true God.” He made it plain that he regarded Christ’s struggle as direct inspiration for his own. For Hitler, Jesus was not just one archetype among others, but “our greatest Aryan leader. ” While emphasizing Jesus’ human qualities, Hitler in these instances also alluded to his divinity. At a Christmas celebration given by the Munich branch of the NSDAP in December 1926, Hitler maintained that the movement’s goal was to “translate the ideals of Christ into deeds.” The movement would complete “the work which Christ had begun but could not finish.” On another occasion, this time behind closed doors and to fellow Nazis only, Hitler again proclaimed the centrality of Christ’s teachings for his movement: “We are the first to exhume these teachings! Through us alone, and not until now, do these teachings celebrate their resurrection! Mary and Magdalene stood at the empty tomb. For they were seeking the dead man. But we intend to raise the treasures of the living Christ!” In a nearly evangelical tone, Hitler declares that the “true message” of Christianity is to be found only with Nazism. He claims that, where the churches failed in their mission to instill a Christian ethic in secular society, his movement would take up the task. Hitler not only reads the New Testament, but professes - in private - to be inspired by it.

-- “The Holy Reich: Nazi Conceptions of Christianity, 1919-1945″ by Richard Steigmann-Gall, pp 27-28.

“We are a people of different religions, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls… We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people.“

-- Speech in Passau 27 October 1928 Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf; from Richard Steigmann-Gall (2003). Holy Reich: Nazi conceptions of Christianity, 1919-1945:

“I say: my Christian feeling tells me that my lord and savior is a warrior. It calls my attention to the man who, lonely and surrounded by only a few supporters, recognized what they [the Jews] were, and called for a battle against them, and who, by God, was not the greatest sufferer, but the greatest warrior…

As a human being it is my duty to see to it that humanity will not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did that old civilization two thousand years ago, a civilization which was driven to its ruin by the Jews… I am convinced that I am really a devil and not a Christian if I do not feel compassion and do not wage war, as Christ did two thousand years ago, against those who are steeling and exploiting these poverty-stricken people.

Two thousand years ago a man was similarly denounced by this particular race which today denounces and blasphememes all over the place… That man was dragged before a court and they said: he is arousing the people! So he, too, was an agitator!”

-- Speech delivered on April 12, 1922; from Charles Bracelen Flood (1989). Hitler: The Path to Power

“Still a member in good standing of the Church of Rome despite detestation of its hierarchy, ’I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so,’ he carried within him its teaching that the Jew was the killer of God. The extermination, therefore, could be done without a twinge of conscience since he was merely acting as the avenging hand of God– so long as it was done impersonally, without cruelty.”

-- John Toland, “Adolf Hitler” (1992)

“The movement’s goal was to translate the ideals of Christ into deeds.”

“The movement would complete the work which Christ had begun but could not finish.”

-- Speech in Munich December 1926; from Richard Steigmann-Gall (2003). Holy Reich: Nazi conceptions of Christianity, 1919-1945

“Without a doubt the chancellor lives in faith in God. He recognizes Christianity as the foundation of Western culture…”

-- Cardinal Faulhaber of Munich (quoted from Ernst Christian Helmreich. “The German Churches Under Hitler: Background, Struggle, and Epilogue.” (1979))

So, sweetie, that ain't gonna work. Hitler was a Xian. He put "Gott Mit Uns" ("God With Us") on the Nazi belt buckles and other paraphenalia, for Santa's sake.

Not all Christians are the way you described.

This is a covert No True Scotsman Fallacy.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman

Do you know what all of them have in common? The bible. Xian doctrine and dogma. Belief in Jesus Christ as a resurrected savior. "Faith" as a way to decide what is true. They cite the same scripture as you. Their bible is your bible. Their savior is your savior. Their heaven is your heaven. Which is the entire problem.

You admit that nobody can be certain of what Xianity is about. All of those "not all Christians" can point to parts of the same book, the same doctine and ideas as you, and be certain they're correct. They will tell you that they have faith they are right about the views of theirs that you oppose.

My view of that is this arrangement is unreasonable, and not deserving of respect. Y'all don't even respect each other. The Catholics think the Protestants are deluded, the Protestants think the Catholics are misguided, the progressives think Westboro are going to hell for their hate, and Westboro think everyone else is going to hell because they know the Truth™.

But the problem is that I have the wrong view of all this? Are you even for real?

Xianity's diversity is proof of its falsity. There is no version of Xianity that someone can't point to something in the bible to justify. They will cite chapter and verse, and know they are right. Of course, they can't be all right, but they can be all wrong.

“No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means.”

-- George Bernard Shaw

If Xianity was actually true, then it would be obvious. There would be a shared, unified understanding of Xianity, just as there's a shared, unified understanding of gravity, evolution, electricity, flight, and so on. Over the last 1600 years, the "understanding" of Xianity has only gotten more divided and discordant, not less.

If Xianity becomes more abstruse as human knowledge grows, rather than less, then how true could it have been in the first place?

Believers regularly inform us that it's all in interpretation, and then they demonstrate this by none of them agreeing on any interpretation.

With this in mind, there is literally, absolutely no basis whatsoever for you to sit there and insist that my view is either incorrect or unjustified. Because the pedestal you've put yourself on is a house of cards in a burning dumpster.

That is not my fault. I'm just the one pointing it out.

Guess who saw Christianity your way also?

My view of Xianity is what Xians themselves tell me. That their god is real but immaterial and undetectable in this reality, loving but will send me to hell, works in mysterious ways but good, allows evil but punishes people for the free will he gives them, perfect but in need of worship and praise. My view is that none of y'all can figure out how to make this creature coherent, or even simply non-self-contradictory, much less believable.

They tell me to just read the bible to find Jesus, and when I do, I discover a Grandiose Narcissist god who (supposedly) murdered and destroyed millions throughout the Old Testament, and a Vulnerable Narcissist savior who made it so that you couldn't escape the Grandiose Narcissist even in death, then manipulates humans into a bloody spectacle of self-immolation, which then forms the basis of an inherited blackmail debt in the New Testament. Not liking it being described that way doesn't mean it's not accurate.

The only reason I have the view of Xianity that I have is because of everything Xians bring to me. It's not my fault the god and savior they and their scripture describe to me is some of the most evil villainy I've ever heard of, secondly only, perhaps, to Islam and the quran. (If you were to read the quran, unburdened by the moral urgency to protect and defend it at all costs as you do Xianity, I would hazard you would come to the same conclusions as me.)

I ask, and this is what they give me. I would rather never hear anything about the Xian god at all, but that's not the world we live in, is it? As long as I'm hearing about it, I will draw conclusions from that information. And if I feel so inspired, I will certainly say so publicly, if I wish, with no guilt or angst.

In any event, this isn't the argument you think it is. Let's for one second pretend that Hitler was not a devout Xian. If you've read Mein Kampf, there is no possible way you could come to that conclusion, but we're in PretendLand now. Cue ripple dissolve and visual tonal shift to indicate we're in a parallel universe...

So what? He can be right about Xianity, and wrong about everything else. Hitler says 2+2=4? Guess what? I agree with him. Am I going to go, "well, Hitler says 2+2=4, and since he's a bad guy, I can't agree with him, so 2+2=something else, because reasons"? That'd be completely stupid.

What you're trying to pull is called the Genetic Fallacy. You should learn about it before trying this argument again.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic

More specifically...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

Reductio ad Hitlerum (/ˈhɪtlərəm/; Latin for "reduction to Hitler"), also known as playing the Nazi card, is an attempt to invalidate someone else's position on the basis that the same view was held by Adolf Hitler or the Nazi Party.

This a feeble and pathologically dishonest attempt at "guilt by contrived association." I am not one to fall for such dishonesty.

Xianity has a shared doctrine and scripture. Non-belief does not. Non-believers are not a group. We are the ones outside your group.

You're a non-believer too. You disbelieve dozens of the same gods Hitler disbelieved. You and Hitler both disbelieve in Zeus, Ra, Odin, Quetzalcoatl, Vishnu, Raijin, and a pantheon of hundreds, if not thousands, of gods. So, what does that say about you?

What are the shared beliefs, values, principles of "we don't think Atum is real"? How much genocide does "I see no evidence for Baiame" advocate? Lots? A little? None?

How prone to world war and genocide does the disbelief in Ahura Mazda and leprechauns you share with Adolf Hitler make you?

You see the problem, right? Saying what I don't believe in tells you nothing about what I do believe in. But saying you're a Xian associates yourself with specific mythology and ideas. Not liking this asymmetry doesn't mean you get to play pretend to try and make belief and non-belief equivalent.

If you're going to accuse me of something, you better bring something better than a circuitous, fabricated dotted line.

Because that "?" at the end of your question is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Here's the thing though: I don't hold you to be comparable to Hitler just because you share the same god-beliefs. Unlike you. You're so desperate to take a swing at me, and your morality is so corrupted, that this is the kind of tactic you'd try to pull.

My point isn't that you're the same, it's that you're different. But both of you came to different conclusions with the same doctrine and scripture. If Xianity can lead people to bad ideas as justifiably as it can lead people to good ideas, why use it at all? How is Xianity better than "no Xianity" in terms of success? And why is it such a crapshoot? Why is it Xianity doesn't result in disproportionately and obviously good behavior and morality... you know, because it's True™ and stuff?

And why is it your god's word is so opaque that anyone can take it any way for any purpose? And why has this existent, loving god not come back down here to fix the problem and sort out the misconceptions?

Seriously, sweetie, how did you think this was going to achieve anything?

My point is that Xian doctrine itself, the bible, the dogma, the "blood of Jesus" immunity from consequences, supports both the "nice" Xianity (necessitating ignoring the violent, immoral parts), and the Hitler-kill-all-the-Jews Xianity.

Both occur by hooking into the believer's existing morality. The believer gets to decide what god really wants. You yourself admitted that up front, that not all Xians are the same way? Why? Because they don't want to be. It's not because there are clear guidelines that prevent it. It's because you make your own morality authoritative.

"You are using your own moral intuitions to authenticate the wisdom of the bible - and then, in the next moment, you assert that we human beings cannot possibly rely upon our own intuitions to rightly guide us in the world; rather, we must depend on the prescriptions of the bible. You are using your own moral intuitions to decide that the Bible is the appropiate guarantor of your moral intuitions. Your own intuitions are still primary, and your reasoning is circular."

--- Sam Harris, "Letter to a Christian Nation"

The difference between the believer and the non-believer isn't our morality, since we're both using our evolved, secular morality. The difference is the believer simultaneously projects it onto their imaginary friend and carefully curates that god's morality in order to make it personally acceptable. "iT'S A NiCeR TyPe oF OwNiNg pEoPlE As pRoPeRtY" and "iT WaS A MeTaPhOrIcAl gEnOcIdE AnD AlSo tHeY DeSeRvEd iT!"

Your god is simply the justification you use to do what you planned to do in the first place. I don't have that luxury. I don't have the ability to claim that it's "the will of god." I don't get to commit some atrocity and say that I was acting on behalf of some imaginary greater wisdom, in aid of some mythological divine plan.

"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."

-- Steven Weinberg

My goal is that we are going to stop pretending that your religion, your belief in a god you can't substantiate, your "faith" - belief without evidence, and in spite of evidence to the contrary - makes you a good person. It doesn't make you a bad person, either. But you are not going to receive respect simply because you profess it; rather because of how you behave, and what you do, not because you hold up your crucifix as a magical talisman.

And your religion is entitled to no respect whatsoever. It's a belief. An idea. Beliefs aren't entitled to respect, least of all the ones which we have no reason to conclude are true.

If this bothers you, then there are things you can do about it.

Be more consistent in your skepticism, for starters. Consider the religions others believe in that you don't, the evidence they offer that you reject, and how you as an outsider appear to them.

Decide to care about what's true and how you can know it, rather than what feels good.

Study the origin of the bible - very few Xians know how fraudulent it is, and this isn't even a controversial conclusion among those who've studied its origins. Scholars even invented the word "pseudepigrapha" to obfuscate bible lies. The bible isn't what you think it is.

In the meantime, you should probably stop expecting people to describe your baseless superstitions only in ways that you find personally agreeable.

#ask #christianity #religion #no true scotsman #intellectual dishonesty #Adolf Hitler #religon #religion is a mental illness

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juanitasupreme · 7 months

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Mind you Jawny Depp stans paid for those documents which yet again just highlights how wronged Amber was during this whole trial

#amber heard #you could argue that its their job #this whole trial was a circus #it was like intellectual dishonesty #tw johnny depp #tw domestic abuse

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master-gatherer · 4 months

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So I thought Todd in the Shadows was name dropped wrt the James Somerton stuff b/c he tweeted about it, turns out he put out an hour and a half video fact checking some Somerton's original claims, a lot of which are just patently false.

#for context todd is a music critic who usually puts out half hour vids about pop songs and one hit wonders #imagine being so intellectually bankrupt two separate guys put out feature length videos detailing your laziness and dishonesty

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gaymom · 7 months

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the fact u immediately throw people with low empathy under the bus is super funny also Lol. god forbid people with npd be wary of people who use narcicissm as an insult as if the word isnt intrinsically tied to the disorder now. we look up resources and are constantly fucking bombarded with articles telling us we're abusive monsters for having npd. have a little decency bro.

yeah you can't pretend that all discussions of narcissism are implicitly tied to the disorder. Narcissist isnt just an insult, although the traits associated with it are definitely negative under a non-individualistic value system. Narcissist is also a word that has been used by people far before NPD was researched and defined in the dsm. The word describes someone with low empathy and a specific affect to their ego that is self focused and disregarding of others. The FACT is that the vast majority of individuals with narcissistic traits DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE that they have narcissistic traits that negatively impact those close to them NOR DO THEY PURSUE MEDICAL SUPPORT OR DIAGNOSIS FOR IT. Which is exactly why I haven't talked about people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Often those who find nothing wrong with taking advantage of others end up finding communities/workplaces where their disregard for others is valued, and that's pretty easy in a capitalist society where many people look up to those with narcissistic traits for the power they have over other people. There are plenty of abuse survivors who have experienced narcissists like Amber Heard not take accountability and take their smear campaigns to the public stage and still successfully take advantage of the biases of large populations of people who form impressions off of lies.

So maybe take a look at your reactivity to people talking about this topic and why you felt the need to send me this, because it's disregarding the subject of my posts and is disconnected from the material reality of narcissistic traits and their effect on social systems. But I'm guessing this is a personal feeling of insecurity on your part that you identify with the narcissists I'm talking about because instead of recognizing I'm talking about abusive narcissists who don't take accountability and don't seek help and take lies and cruelty too far, YOU IDENTIFY with the narcs Im referencing and send me this pity party about how hard it is for you to hear how angry people talk after being hurt by people who let your condition go unchecked. Low empathy is not a sub-human trait, I dont think people without empathy are monsters. But I KNOW some of those people dismiss the reality of their low empathy and the damage they do BECAUSE of their narcissism. So maybe, be less wary of people talking about the damage of narcissism and be more wary of how your biases can lead you to being out of touch.

#Like this is not personal #it's just the reality of human differences #if we just pretend that our culture is fine and we need to be treating narcissists like victims of their own experiences #we ignore that socially people have leeway to be narcissistic and successfuly meet their needs at the expense of others if they #are dishonest in specific ways. like there's still plenty of people who are supposedly anti abuse who support clear abuser amber heard #SIMPLY because she's a woman and a successful liar and manipulator #please recognize your biases that lead to you dismissing people's dishonesty and targeted aggression #and this is way more important in the specific context of person who has a pattern of instigating contentious situations and escalating them #the fact that it's actually a popular 'woke' take to just not question slandering a person while providing no concrete evidence #simply because its easier for you to think that women in Hollywood can't have the same entitled abusive attitudes as the men #and maybe YOU cant relate to someone lying about something as horrendous as abuse and rape but white women have been doing it for centuries #get a grip #people can be shitty and hold destructive views regardless of identity and that's the beauty of intersectionality baby #and if your narcissisticly disordered personality is better than that--lovely #but it's also possible to be a fake therapy-pilled self-aware narcissist who subconsciously still feels a need to be better than everyone #and who still faces the deep insecurity characterizing narcisissism while intellectualizing their existence to make up for not actually #healing the core problem which is your internal sense of stability

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