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hobiebrownismygod · 6 months

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Why Spiderman-India/Pavitr Prabhakar is one of the best examples of Indian representation I've seen in a long time

Mumbattan

Lets talk about Earth-50101, Mumbattan, Pavitr's home dimension. Mumbattan is displayed as a beautiful, colorful dimension with lots of traffic, lots of people, and lots of culture. When we see Gwen, Miles and Pav swinging through Mumbattan, we see people wearing saris, people driving scootys, Indian-style billboards and even temples in the surroundings. This is an extremely accurate depiction of large Indian cities.

Mumbattan on the left, Mumbai on the right

See how similar these look?

Now compare this to how Hollywood's Slumdog Millionaire movie depicts India.

Every single movie depicting India made by Hollywood portrays India as a country full of slums and dirty people. I have never seen Hollywood portray India as the beautiful, culture-filled country it is, and I have never seen one of the many beautiful temples, or the advanced cities represented in western media until now. Slumdog Millionaire is a fantastic movie, but India isn't only made up of slums.

Hollywood tends to romanticize struggle and when depicting India, makes it seem like a very depressing country. Yes, there are slums in India. Yes, there are people struggling in India. But that doesn't mean that India isn't beautiful. It doesn't mean India is behind. Mumbattan is the first depiction of India I've seen that I feel portrays the beauty and culture of India well. It is a fantastic representation.

2. Pavitr's personality

One of the most recent and most popular Indian representation series right now is the show, Never Have I Ever. In my opinion, this show is terrible. The main character, Devi Vishwakumar, is the stereotype of all stereotypes and doesn't accurately portray most Desi girls. She is rude, selfish, and extremely narcissistic. Her entire personality is being Indian and I find that extremely hard to watch. They make fun of her by addressing stereotypes like an excess of body hair, fashion, and even accents but instead of shutting down these stereotypes, they amplified them by making fun of them.

In western media, Indians are either portrayed as IT workers, scammers, grocery store owners, or nerdy, try-hard teenagers. Every show with an Indian teenager in it portrays them as cheap, unhygienic or unattractive which I, as an Indian, find extremely offensive.

Pavitr is portrayed as an optimistic Indian teenager who's smart and strong, without bragging about it, proud of being Indian without making it his whole personality and genuinely funny. He isn't portrayed as some skinny, nerdy guy with glasses. In fact, he's literally shown flexing his muscles, and performing well in class without going overboard about it. He's so full of culture, I can't even begin to explain it because I'll never stop. His suit, his mask, his webs, the way he moves, the way he fights, its all beautiful and I could watch for days on end without getting bored.

We were finally served an attractive, funny Indian character who isn't a walking stereotype, who loves and embraces his culture and just seems like an awesome guy to be around. Seeing him on screen made me feel so proud, of my religion and my culture. I hope Hollywood takes notes on this and continues providing the media with proper Indian representation and strong Indian role models for characters!

This article explains everything I said a little better, because I know my writing style can be confusing sometimes. It really goes into depth on how impactful it is on Indians to see this kind of representation for the first time in western media and how important this is.

He's so pretty <3 I'm so proud that I look like him

Might go even more in-depth eventually, I just really wanted to get this off my chest because I love him so much 😭

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justaleafinthewind · 3 months

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can we just take a second to appreciate Aryan Simhadri? he's a fantastic actor, every second he's on the screen he manages to make his actions scream GROVER. he's perfect for his role just like Leah and Walker are yet I don't see nearly enough people talking about him and his contribution to the show in this fandom. he's not only nailing the Grover Underwood vibe but he's also providing so much phenomenal Indian/Asian rep. he's giving so much depth of character and that is so rare for Indians (and Asians generally) in popular media, and he's so conscious of how his background interacts with Grover's. Aryan has given so so much to us and now I wanna hear y'all celebrating that.

#aryan simhadri #grover underwood #pjo #pjo series #pjo tv show #pjo fandom #walker scobell #leah sava jeffries #percy jackson #percy jackon and the olympians #annabeth chase #asian representation #desiblr #indian representation #south asian #my post

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emaswanned · 9 months

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I know there's a bunch of fans who have fallen out of love with the TV adaptation of The Witcher because of it's deviation from the books/games, but I don't think I can explain how wonderful it is to see an Indian Hindu woman, a person of colour, playing a powerful, beautiful female main character that is literally loved by thousands across the globe.

I'm third-generation British Indian and grew up watching shows with main characters that never, ever looked like me. I cannot applaud the casting of Anya Chalotra as Yennefer any more than I already have.

#the witcher #yennefer of vengerberg #anya chalotra #yennefer #character: yennefer #television: the witcher #mine #poc #people of colour #indian representation #south asian representation #poc actors

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sunshine-necklace · 2 years

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Can we talk about Devi's development

This season's storyline was so well crafted for so many reasons.

Devi getting over Paxton. Their relationship wasn't working because Devi had so much self-hatred rooted in how others saw her and her culture. It made so much sense for them to break up because the whole relationship was built on Devi's idolization of Paxton and how she felt unworthy. By the end of the season, she is able to have a healthy friendship with him, and Paxton also gets to feel like more than just some object of lust. She's also able to actually choose to be with Ben.

Devi's relationship with Des. This was like the beginning of her loving herself. Since she saw a reflection of herself (i.e. her culture, values, and goals), in Des (the smart, nerdy kid) who she also saw as attractive and cool, she was able to love herself more. Devi has only seen herself and other brown kids as her as uncool. Des is the kind of real-life representation she needed to break out of that self-hatred. (The reason why representation in media is so important.) Also, it was pretty obvious that Mindy Kaling was having a moment pairing Devi with a brown guy. But the end of their relationship was kind of realistic. Speaking from experience, brown guys live for their mothers.

Overcoming her trauma. With all of Devi's growth, she's able to focus on more important things and can handle her feelings better. She was able to overcome some of her grief at the concert because she has support. Her relationship with her mother has been strengthened so much this season which is such a thing for brown girls. The difference in her relationship with her mother in the first season to now is absolutely beautiful.

There's a million more things I want to say about this season. I love how she's making sensible choices now and is actually a likeable character. There are obviously always places to improve, but, as far as representation I never had goes, this show will always be one of my favorites.

#never have i ever #nhie #nhie s3 #devi vishwakumar #indian representation #nhie spoilers #never have i ever spoilers

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obamaonaunicorn · 10 months

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(Some mild spoilers for ATSV‼️)

I'm a bit late to this party but nothing has made me happier in the last month than seeing Pavitr Prabhakar onscreen during the "Across The Spider verse" film. As an Indian, it was so incredibly new to see a major movie that has good representation for Indians. There were no jokes poked at his accent. Mumbattan (Mumbai/Bombay) was actually represented as a bustling megacity instead of a dirty village, and they used Hindi for the onomatopoeias ("धड़ाम", "क्रैश") and Pavitr even speaks Hindi at certain points (he says Chalo at one point).

Lastly, Pavitr was a unique character because he was portrayed so differently from other indian characters in American movies/tv shows. He was smart, but his whole personality wasn't about being a "nerd" or a "geek". He was just a happy, healthy kid. I'm so happy that Indian kids can see themselves as Pavitr, and I hope to see more characters like him in the future :)

#representation #indian #across the spiderverse #spiderman #atsv spoilers #atsv pavitr #pavitr prabhakar #indian representation #mumbattan

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overthinking-snail · 2 years

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As an indian person I especially love the representation considering in media generally we get little to none.

#alice oseman #osemanverse #Indian representation #raine sengupta #sunil jha #Rita sengupta #Sai verma #Jimmy kaga ricci #I really hope I didn't forget anyone #The reason why there's no picture of Rita is because I couldn't find any #That is why there's text instead 😭#Edity thing #Coach singh

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diana-bookfairchild · 1 year

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Why do people keep spelling Parvati Patil as Pavarti Patil??!

As a proud Indian Hindu, it's like a bucket of cold water poured all over me whenever I see this. In a meta that I really appreciate, one of my favourite fic authors answering questions on tumblrs, on amazing fics. . . the magic completely goes and leaves me staring at the screen wondering why this is happening.

Okay, movie, I get it. British accent isn't really conducive to hearing the pronunciation of Indian names properly. Fine.

But even book enthusiasts keep spelling Parvati like that?? Why??

Parvati is a Hindu goddess, the wife of Shiva, a manifestation of Durga Devi, a goddess who symbolizes battle and destruction and carries a trishula (a three pronged spear).

Pavarti sounds terrible and means nothing (in the Indian languages I have at least a little knowledge of: Hindi, Sanskrit, Tamil, Malyalam).

I also really, really love the contract between this name and Padma - which means lotus, and is something Lord Vishnu carries and symbolizes purity.

Please, for the love of God, spell Parvati properly.

#harry potter #parvati patil #padma patil #indian #india #indian representation #names #misspelled names #another rant on something which annoys me #wow i'm on a roll

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janetsnakehole02 · 2 years

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UHM sorry Ben and Paxton WHO?? Move aside basic white boys the DESI STUD HAS ARRIVED

@lil-stark LOOK AT HIMMMMMM

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the-bardic-whisper · 10 months

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Welcome to BardVerse

It's really nice to have you here. And Welcome to my chaotic second brain!

You can call me Arya/Kali!

Ancient Asian history (esp Indian History) is being slowly forgotten by our own people due to the lack of representation and unacceptable cringe situation of the various films and media content made by different sources since the beginning of the entertainment industry. Only a very few notable movies and series I've gone theough have given me something to be proud to be a part of. While western influence is taking over the world, slowly erasing the centuries long history and rich culture surrounding it, being a bystander is physically painful. There's nothing wrong with consuming western content (I, myself, consume western content a lot. But, that shouldn't distance us from our culture and make us feel inferior for being Asian) So, I've begun this blog to represent and express my thoughts on various topics surrounding India and other Asian countries. Desiblr has given me a new way to move forward and be understood. So, here I am, expecting myself to produce engaging content (hopefully) based on Asian countries (esp India) through this blog.

So, let me be your bard ;)

Thank you

Arya

P.S. - I'm not super spiritual or religious. Just patriotic. So, spirituality-based content will be pretty much absent.

Check out what's happening on my mind most of the time

Click for Intro

#India #asia #asian representation #indian representation #desiblr

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wavesandwhispers · 2 years

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Deepika Padukone wearing Cartier and Ardazaei at the Cannes film festival 2022

#deepika padukone #cannes 2022 #cannes film festival #cannes film festival 2022 #cannes jury #cartier #ardazaei #fashion #haute couture #couture #fashion collection #fashion inspiration #indian fahsion #indian representation #fashion tumblr

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spookyscarybookdragony · 2 years

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I love how so many people are freaking out over Leah Sava Jeffries playing Annabeth, and I absolutely adore that, but I also want to give some more love to our amazing Aryan Simhadri (whose birthday is today 🎉🎉🎉) because I honestly have been dying to see some more good Indian representation, especially in big franchises, for ages now. So can we just, like, freak out again over this casting for a moment because I legit haven't stopped since yesterday.

#Annabeth Chase #Grover Underwood #Aryan Simhadri #Percy Jackson #Walker Scobell #Percy Jackson and the Olympians #TV Adapation #Rick Riordan #Indian representation #Leah Sava Jeffries

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hobiebrownismygod · 4 months

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Let's talk about Desi representation again!!

I don't talk about this stuff often but when I do, I have some strong ass opinions

and yes I'm gonna be talking about none other than Pavitr Prabhakar at the end cuz he's just special to me <3

Hollywood is lagging behind on Desi representation

You'd think one of the biggest film industries in the world would be able to represent us properly, considering the fact that we make up the largest group of South-Asian Americans and the second largest group of Asian-Americans in the US, but instead-

Western Television forces Indians to conform to harmful stereotypes

Some of the most popular Desi characters on screen are Raj Koothrappali from the Big Bang Theory, Devi Vishwakumar from Never Have I Ever and Kelly Kapoor from the Office.

Indian men are almost always portrayed as robotics engineers and computer whizzes, but with terrible social intellect, making them seem like awkward nerds.

Indian women are almost always portrayed as "whitewashed", or wanting to appear more western, with zero understanding of their own culture or language along with an unrelenting need for attention from white friends/colleagues.

These are both based on stereotypes that Indian culture is "toxic" and "too traditional" and that Indians are only interested in studies.

Most Desi characters in western media have stories that are solely based around their ethnicity and/or racial stereotypes.

British television actually showcases a lot more representation than Hollywood does

I was watching Polite Society, a movie starring two Pakistani characters as the main leads, and there was a dance scene where both the leads are wearing traditional desi attire. My mom turned over, looked at me, and asked, "Is this Hollywood? It can't be."

And she was right. It's a British movie with British-Pakistani actors.

The reason she didn't believe that it could've been Hollywood was because the dresses the two leads were wearing were traditional and beautiful and the song playing in the background was authentic Hindi music, not some random westernized DJ version of it.

A Hollywood movie would've never dressed up their Desi actors in actually flattering attire (*cough cough the Patel twins from Harry Potter) or have used real, popular Desi music in the background.

You see my point?

It is so uncommon to see well-thought-out Desi representation in TV nowadays, where to see real diversity we have to watch movies made by the same country that colonized us.

Ironic.

British movies/shows with desi leads have far better South Asian representation than anything I've seen in Hollywood recently.

The Hollywood movies starring Indian leads, like Slumdog Millionaire or Bend it like Beckham were filmed in the UK, and because they were filmed in the UK, they had fantastic South Asian representation.

Not only does Hollywood refuse to create shows and movies about real problems that South Asians face, but they also don't cast South Asian actors in good roles.

When's the last time you saw a South Asian actor playing a character that wasn't a walking stereotype? When's the last time you saw a South Asian actor playing a character that was a genuine part of the story rather than just comedic relief or a random smart kid in the classroom?

Not often, right?

Me, personally, I didn't grow up with a lot of South Asian characters or actors in shows/movies that I watched. In fact, every time someone even close to my skin color showed up on TV, I was on the edge of my seat because it was just so rare to see it.

This is why representation matters.

You've heard about all the young girls with braids being so excited when the new little mermaid with Halle Bailey came out. Well, us desi kids wanted that too.

I wanted to see a Telugu speaking girl with wavy hair and dark skin who would wear traditional clothing to Desi get-togethers and parties, go to the temple with her family, eat vegetarian Indian meals, etc...

I wanted to see a character who was a representation of me and my experiences as an Indian-American. I wanted to see a character that was at least a representation of Indians or just South Asians in general.

Instead, we were given characters that ridiculed their own culture, were extreme stereotypes and furthered the existence of casual racism in western society today. So many Desi kids experience small acts of racism on a daily basis because people have been so desensitized to the existence of these stereotypes.

Telling South Asians that their culture is a joke and feeding non-asian children media which pokes fun at other cultures is harmful, not only to us South Asians but also communities that could end up being targeted next.

Pavitr Prabhakar; Representation Matters

If you've been following me or if we're mutuals, you probably know I have a tiny obsession with Pavitr Prabhakar. But why?

Because of all the reasons I just listed.

There are few South Asian characters us Desis can look up to these days, and Pavitr Prabhakar is one of the maybe two or three characters who have great writing, magnificent representation, and overall a fun vibe.

He's likable, funny, smart and best of all, unapologetically Desi.

He's just like all the other side characters, with a little bit of his own culture mixed in. He's not being shoved down our throats to further an agenda about fake diversity, he's not a walking stereotype and best of all, he was designed by Indian creators.

He's refreshing and exciting to follow in a world full of a demand for half-hearted representations and the people who created him were obviously putting their hearts and souls into it.

He's awoken a love for Indian culture amongst, not only Desi children themselves but also among westerners who, prior to this, had thought of India as a "3rd world" country, because that's the agenda that Hollywood pushes onto many South Asian countries today.

WE LOVE PAVITR PRABHAKAR!!

This was kinda all over the place but I just had to get this off my chest <3

Sources:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/06/10/discrimination-against-indian-americans-happens-more-than-you-might-think/

#for all the brown kids that never got to see a character that looked like them growing up #desi representation #desi writers #desiblr #desi tumblr #desi tag #desi culture #indian representation #pavitr #pavitr prabhakar #atsv pavitr #spiderverse pavitr #pavitr my beloved #astv #across the spider verse #across the spiderverse #spiderman atsv #pavitr Prabhakar

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rrcraft-and-lore · 11 days

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In addition to my Monkey Man post from earlier, the always kind & sweet Aparna Verma (author of The Phoenix King, check it out) asked that I do a thread on Hijras, & more of the history around them, South Asia, mythology (because that's my thing), & the positive inclusion of them in Monkey Man which I brought up in my gushing review.

Hijra: They are the transgender, eunuch, or intersex people in India who are officially recognized as the third sex throughout most countries in the Indian subcontinent. The trans community and history in India goes back a long way as being documented and officially recognized - far back as 12th century under the Delhi Sultanate in government records, and further back in our stories in Hinduism. The word itself is a Hindi word that's been roughly translated into English as "eunuch" commonly but it's not exactly accurate.

Hijras have been considered the third sex back in our ancient stories, and by 2014 got official recognition to identify as the third gender (neither male or female) legally. Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, and India have accepted: eunuch, trans, intersex people & granted them the proper identification options on passports and other government official documents.

But let's get into some of the history surrounding the Hijra community (which for the longest time has been nomadic, and a part of India's long, rich, and sometimes, sadly, troubled history of nomadic tribes/people who have suffered a lot over the ages. Hijras and intersex people are mentioned as far back as in the Kama Sutra, as well as in the early writings of Manu Smriti in the 1st century CE (Common Era), specifically said that a third sex can exist if possessing equal male and female seed.

This concept of balancing male/female energies, seed, and halves is seen in two places in South Asian mythos/culture and connected to the Hijra history.

First, we have Aravan/Iravan (romanized) - who is also the patron deity of the transgender community. He is most commonly seen as a minor/village deity and is depicted in the Indian epic Mahabharata. Aravan is portrayed as having a heroic in the story and his self-sacrifice to the goddess Kali earns him a boon.

He requests to be married before his death. But because he is doomed to die so shortly after marriage, no one wants to marry him.

No one except Krishna, who adopts his female form Mohini (one of the legendary temptresses in mythology I've written about before) and marries him. It is through this union of male, and male presenting as female in the female form of Mohini that the seed of the Hijras is said to begun, and why the transgender community often worships Aravan and, another name for the community is Aravani - of/from Aravan.

But that's not the only place where a gender non conforming divine representation can be seen. Ardhanarishvara is the half female form of lord Shiva, the destroyer god.

Shiva combines with his consort Parvarti and creates a form that represents the balancing/union between male/female energies and physically as a perfectly split down the middle half-male half-female being. This duality in nature has long been part of South Asian culture, spiritual and philosophical beliefs, and it must be noted the sexuality/gender has often been displayed as fluid in South Asian epics and the stories. It's nothing new.

Many celestial or cosmic level beings have expressed this, and defied modern western limiting beliefs on the ideas of these themes/possibilities/forms of existence.

Ardhanarishvara signifies "totality that lies beyond duality", "bi-unity of male and female in God" and "the bisexuality and therefore the non-duality" of the Supreme Being.

Back to the Hijra community.

They have a complex and long history. Throughout time, and as commented on in the movie, Monkey Man, the Hijra community has faced ostracization, but also been incorporated into mainstream society there. During the time of the Dehli Sultanate and then later the Mughal Empire, Hijras actually served in the military and as military commanders in some records, they were also servants for wealthy households, manual laborers, political guardians, and it was seen as wise to put women under the protection of Hijras -- they often specifically served as the bodyguards and overseers of harems. A princess might be appointed a Hijra warrior to guard her.

But by the time of British colonialism, anti-Hijra laws began to come in place folded into laws against the many nomadic tribes of India (also shown in part in Monkey Man with Kid (portrayed by Dev Patel) and his family, who are possibly

one of those nomadic tribes that participated in early theater - sadly by caste often treated horribly and relegated to only the performing arts to make money (this is a guess based on the village play they were performing as no other details were given about his family).

Hijras were criminalized in 1861 by the Indian Penal Code enforced by the British and were labeled specifically as "The Hijra Problem" -- leading to an anti-Hijra campaign across the subcontinent with following laws being enacted: punishing the practices of the Hijra community, and outlawing castration (something many Hijra did to themselves). Though, it should be noted many of the laws were rarely enforced by local Indian officials/officers. But, the British made a point to further the laws against them by later adding the Criminal Tribes Act in 1871, which targeted the Hijra community along with the other nomadic Indian tribes - it subjected them to registration, tracking/monitoring, stripping them of children, and their ability to sequester themselves in their nomadic lifestyle away from the British Colonial Rule.

Today, things have changed and Hijras are being seen once again in a more positive light (though not always and this is something Monkey Man balances by what's happened to the community in a few scenes, and the heroic return/scene with Dev and his warriors). All-hijra communities exist and sort of mirror the western concept of "found families" where they are safe haven/welcoming place trans folks and those identifying as intersex.

These communities also have their own secret language known as Hijra Farsi, which is loosely based on Hindi, but consists of a unique vocabulary of at least 1,000 words.

As noted above, in 2014, the trans community received more legal rights.

Specifically: In April 2014, Justice K. S. Radhakrishnan declared transgender to be the third gender in Indian law in National Legal Services Authority v. Union of India.

Hijras, Eunuchs, apart from binary gender, be treated as "third gender" for the purpose of safeguarding their rights under Part III of our Constitution and the laws made by the Parliament and the State Legislature. Transgender persons' right to decide their self-identified gender is also upheld and the Centre and State Governments are directed to grant legal recognition of their gender identity such as male, female or as third gender.

I've included some screenshots of (some, not all, and certainly not the only/definitive reads) books people can check out about SOME of the history. Not all again. This goes back ages and even our celestial beings/creatures have/do display gender non conforming ways.

There are also films that touch on Hijra history and life. But in regards to Monkey Man, which is what started this thread particularly and being asked to comment - it is a film that positively portrayed India's third sex and normalized it in its depiction. Kid the protagonist encounters a found family of Hijras at one point in the story (no spoilers for plot) and his interactions/acceptance, living with them is just normal. There's no explaining, justifying, anything to/for the audience. It simply is. And, it's a beautiful arc of the story of Kid finding himself in their care/company.

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mannyblacque · 8 months

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Reservation Dogs 3.03 "Deer Lady"

This episode was a real gut punch.

#reservation dogs #rez dogs #boarding school #deer lady #indigenous lives matter #mmiw #native american #indigenous representation #missing and murdered indigenous women #indigenous history #taika waititi #sterlin harjo #d'pharaoh woon a tai #bear smallhill #native american boarding schools #native boarding school #indigenous boarding school #american indian boarding schools

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hyperfixating24-7 · 6 months

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First ever Pavitr Prabhakar sketch??? Cause he baby girls like no one has ever babygirled before

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superlintball · 1 year

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Okay so a friend of mine was getting rid of some books and she offered up a book called The Jasmine Throne by Tasha Suri

I had never heard of it, so I looked it up, and discovered that it was a fantasy book written by an Indian author which heavily draws from South Asia for its worldbuilding

Needless to say, as an Indian, my interest was piqued, so I told my friend I would indeed like to have it

When I picked it up from her, she mentioned that it wasn't all that great of a book but that she really liked the worldbuilding, and so I went into it with pretty low expectations

What I didn't consider was that my friend is white.

To be fair, I'm not saying she doesn't have a point. Maybe this isn't the most beautiful prose or most intricate plot I've ever read

To be perfectly honest, I don't really care

You see, to her, the cool worldbuilding that she liked was just that: worldbuilding. (No hate to her whatsoever I adore her)

But this is my culture. I didn't even know how much it meant to me to see my culture in my favorite genre of book until it was right in front of me

I couldn't get enough of it

At every chance I got, I was reading

I was in the middle of a vacation and all I wanted to do was keep reading

And then

This happened (mild spoilers for the book):

And I was like ",,, oh??"

I read it again

Then I kept reading

And then a few pages later, this:

OH??????

I just kind of sat there and I processed what I'd just read

And then I took pictures

And then I read it again

And again

And again and again and again

And now I'm just sitting here

I can't

I can't handle this

I'm just sitting here, in the middle of a hotel room, unable to read another page of this book or look away or do anything at all other than stare in wonder

Because it's GAY

I can't handle this

I don't know what to do

I want to cry

I want to scream

I want to curl up into a ball

I want to track down the author and,,, I don't know? Hug her? Kiss her? Thank her? Ask for her autograph? Stand there grinning like an idiot? Offer her my services as a court jester? Kneel at her feet and swear fealty? Those last two probably go hand in hand tbh

Regardless, it doesn't matter what I want to do

Because I can't do anything at all

It's not just South Asian fantasy

It's GAY South Asian fantasy

This,,,

This means so much to me

Thank you, Tasha Suri.

From the bottom of my heart,

Thank you.

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