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Buzzwole: What if we hung mistletoe, but instead of kissing, we have to fight whoever else is underneath it
Celesteela: No
Pheromosa: MistleFoe
Celesteela: Don't encourage them
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willywonderfan · 1 year
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More ultra beasts incorrect quotes.
1.Kartana, cowering in fear: What do you want from me?! Guzzlord, standing in front of Kartana: *bites into the whole KitKat bar like a heathen* Kartana, crying: Please...stop...
2.Guzzlord: No, this is not a mess. You know what I consider a mess? Kartana: Your life? Guzzlord: I- well yes, but-
3.Guzzlord: Alcohol is delicious! ...I mean, MAlicious. Sorry guys, I’m really drunk right now.
4.Blacephalon: Say no to drugs. Blacephalon: Say yes to drugs. Blacephalon: It doesn't matter if you say yes or no to drugs, cause if you're talking to drugs... then you're on drugs.
5.*At a dinner party, the guests converse while the host is away* Buzzswole: So how do you know the host? Kartana: They were a former vegan, and they bought milk. Guzzlord: That BITCH! Naganadel: I pulled them over for money laundering. Blacephalon: I'm chaperoning their dinner party. Pheromosa: They stole a baconator! Guzzlord: That BITCH! Buzzswole: I tanked the store they were managing and they convinced me to quit from one of the only jobs I've ever had. Now I'm living off of unemployment checks and fear!
6.*The Squad with cigarettes* Buzzswole: I smoke regularly. Xurkitree: I smoke sparingly. Blacephalon: I smoked once, but I didn't care for it. Pheromosa: I've never smoked, but the idea intrigues me. Naganadel: I've never smoked, and I refuse to do so. Guzzlord: What's a cigarette?
7.Buzzswole: How do you want your coffee? Blacephalon: Black, like my soul. Buzzswole: Buzzswole: Blacephalon, your soul is a latte.
8.Buzzswole: May luck (and this picture of Guzzlord eating shredded cheese at 3 in the morning) be with you.
9.Xurkitree: Don't joke about murder. I was murdered once and it offends me.
10.Celesteela: Is this mistletoe? Stakataka: Uh, no, no, that is basil. Celesteela: Too bad cause if it was mistletoe I was gonna kiss you. Stakataka: Yeah, no, it’s still basil.
11.Naganadel: When Nihilego was born, the gods said, "They're too perfect for this world." Stakataka: Please. When they were born, the devil said, "Oh, competition."
12.Nihilego: Every time I hear someone talking about updog, I’m torn between not wanting to fall for it and wanting to help them complete their joke. Guzzlord: Okay, but what is updog? Naganadel: Updog is a long sausage in a bun, often served with ketchup, mustard, onions, and/or relish. Blacephalon: No, that’s a hot dog. An updog is when a new version or patch of an application is released. Kartana: No, that's an update. You’re thinking of the fourth largest city in Sweden. Stakataka: Surely, that’s Uppsala, where’s updog is the giant spider in Harry Potter. Nihilego: That’s Aragog. Updog is a symbol conventionally used for an arbitrarily small number in analysis proofs. Blacephalon: You’re thinking of epsilon. Updog is an upward-moving air current. Naganadel: No, that’s an updraft. An updog is the modern version of a henway. Guzzlord: What’s a henway?? Nihilego: Oh, about five pounds.
13.*The Squad is on the bus, and a child is crying* Naganadel: *rolls eyes to the sky* Blacephalon: *makes funny faces to get them to stop* Kartana: *puts their earphones on at 100% volume* Guzzlord: *doesn't mind, doesn't bother* Nihilego: *is the reason they're crying* Stakataka: *enjoys in silence*
14.Naganadel: Kartana, we're hungry! Guzzlord: Kartana! What's for dinner? Blacephalon: We're hungry, Kartana! Kartana, frying a bottle of ketchup over the stove: *screams*
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alter-ego-cole · 1 year
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Some PokeGang and Ultra Squad incorrect quotes bc why tf not
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novafire-is-thinking · 2 months
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Looking for volunteers…
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As some of you know, @cyber-streak-2 and I have been providing the fandom with quality incorrect quotes for a while now.
I’ve had a lot of fun with it, but since I’ll be cutting down on my fandom activities for a while, I won’t be able to help with incorrect quotes more than once a week.
Styx and I are looking for a few volunteers who can fill in for me and suggest characters for quotes.
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Responsibilities and requirements below:
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Responsibilities:
Styx will DM you a handful of incorrect quotes sometime during the day, depending on its availability. Usually, this happens sometime in the evening (MT-EST USA).
The message will appear as follows:
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Sometime before the next day, you will evaluate the quotes and suggest characters that fit each quote.
I recommend copy-pasting the full message into a separate app (iPhone Notes, Google Docs, etc.) and brainstorming over there. It’ll make your life easier if you can see all the quotes in front of you as you work, and it’ll also help prevent mix-ups on your end.
My preferred brainstorming setup:
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When you’re finished matching things up, you will send back your suggestions in the following format:
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Anubis will look over your suggestions, and it’ll thank you if it’s satisfied. If not, he’ll ask if you have any other suggestions for [quote #x].
Other things to know:
If you’re busy when Styx sends the quotes, don’t feel pressured to respond; you don’t even have to let it know you’re busy. As long as you send your suggestions/ideas before the morning of the next day (6am EST), you’re free to answer him whenever you want. Styx is chill like that :)
If you can’t think of any character(s) that will fit one or more of the quotes, say so. The only consequence is that there will be less quotes.
If the quotes are published, and you realize you or Anubis accidentally mixed up the characters, don’t hesitate to DM, point it out, and state exactly what changes should be made. It’s happened plenty of times with me, and Styx hasn’t hesitated to change the quotes, even after they’ve been published.
If you think of multiple characters that fit a single quote, feel free to suggest them too.
Multi-character formatting examples:
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If you can think of a way to correct and/or improve one or more of the quotes, send back the full quote(s) with the completed changes incorporated. This makes it easy for Anubis to just copy and paste the updated version(s):
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Requirements:
Must have a solid grasp of the main characters’ personalities in MTMTE + LL, preferably with a grasp of some characters from the rest of IDW1, TFP, and EarthSpark. Knowledge of characters from TFA, G1, and Beast Wars is appreciated for the sake of additional variety, but not necessary. No Rescue Bots, RiD15, or Cyberverse, please.
Must be able to communicate concisely. Styx does best when there’s little-to-no ambiguity in the wording of character suggestions and all other messages. (No need to be me or an Ultra Magnus. Just be willing to confirm or reword things if asked.)
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Congratulations and thank you to anyone who’s read this far. 😎
If you’re interested in doing this, please DM me with which day(s) you’re available, and we can discuss other details. I’ll answer any questions you may have.
I know this may seem like a lot, but it’s easy and fun once you’ve been doing it for a little while. I’ve gotten a lot of good laughs out of imagining which characters would say which things.
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bh-52 · 1 year
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Galen Marek au incorrect quotes.
Katooni, Omega, and Caleb Dume, are adopted by Galen:
Galen, staring down the full might of every villainous military faction throughout history: I've only had these precious treasures for five seconds, but if anything happens to them, I'll kill you all.
Omega, sheds a tear.
Galen, goes Force wielder version of Ultra Instinct: You made my baby cry! And for that I'll make you pay!!!!!
Vaylin: Oooh, the handsome one's going beast mode.
Vitiate: What are you going to do, boy?
Galen, activates Mangekyo Sharingan, and proceeds to permanently kill everyone, except himself and his kids, with their own signature moves but a million times more powerful: That, you Sith trash.
Caleb, Katooni and Omega: Can we get drive thru on the way home?
Galen, with a smile: Of course, dear ones.
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Note: We are currently on an indefinite hiatus due to IRL issues. You can still submit quotes, but expect limited posts from us until further notice.
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Hello and welcome! This is an incorrect quotes blog for legendary Pokemon, mythical Pokemon, and Ultra Beasts! This blog is currently run by three mods who are good friends. For more information, check out this Carrd!
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We currently have a queue set to post a quote every three days at 12PM (PST time). Submissions are always opened, but we may deny or delay posting for any reason, including just not wanting to spam quotes from any one legendary. Submissions are also queued so there will likely be delay in posting. Please be respectful when asking for more quotes from a certain legendary Pokemon.
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This blog was founded on July 2nd, 2019 by Milk Mod out of sheer boredom and desire to see powerful, arcane beings act like idiots.
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littencloud9 · 3 years
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Ash: when you try your best but you don't succeeeeeeeeed
Ash: when you get what you want but not what you neeeeeeeed
Gladion: what's wrong? was there an Ultra Wormhole sighting? is it another Ultra Beast? are we in danger?!
Ash: nah
Ash: dropped a bag of cheetos
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asktheubs · 5 years
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Guzzlord: Why is eating people bad?
Stakataka: Because it's people.
Guzzlord: But other people seem to enjoy eating other people.
Stakataka: ...
Stakataka: That's what that means.
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solitaire-dreams · 5 years
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What’s Your Type? : Pokespe Fire/Water/Grass Dexholder Analysis
DISCLAIMER: Honestly, I've only read RGB, RS, DP, BW, and SM arcs in full; and parts of the Yellow and B2W2 arc. So, any information outside of these arcs is coming from Bulbapedia and is liable to be incorrect.
When it comes to the world of Pokespe, rather than the anime where we follow the never aging Ash Ketchum, we now total about 21 dexholders (our protagonists).  Each dexholder is fairly unique from one another, yet one thing always tends to be in common between them. The same thing that's always common when we pick up our consoles to start a new Pokemon journey. Picking our starters.
In the world of Pokespe, the standard starters aren't guaranteed to be the first Pokemon they will receive—quite the opposite actually—yet they will always gain one of the traditional starters at some point of their evolutionary line on their journey. (The only two exceptions are Yellow who was created for the Yellow games where Pikachu was the starter, and Whi-two or Whitley because they ran out of Unovan starters). This often has us classify the dexholders into grass, fire, and water varieties. Though this categorization goes deeper than a Pokemon in their party, but plays a large role in their characterization.
Each of the dexholders in each category share a trait that connects all of them, and will provide useful for other predictions (skip to the end if you just want to know what the other prediction is). This post is focused on breaking them down one by one.
Note: Since I was tempted enough to reblog an incorrect pokespe quote where green was the name given to the male character, for the rest of this blog, Green is the male character and Blue is the female. Got it? Good.
First off, we'll start off with the fire type dexholders. Most of you might notice some obvious similarities:
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Yet, there is also one very obvious exception:
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Green here doesn't tend to shout, especially as much as the other fire type dexholders. So, then what is the factor connecting them? All of them still have a very fiery spirit, and more accurately, is their strong determination towards achieving whatever goal they have. They will pursue it no matter whatever or whoever lies in their way; often leading to causing chaos or bad relationships with other people in their wake.
Green is extremely focused on becoming a strong trainer. Upon his first appearance, he is battling Mew with Charmander to train it and shows no remorse when Red tries to battle it and his Pokemon faints; rather looking down on him for not “noticing anything” during the fight. This determination continues throughout the first arc, as further demonstrated when he tries to force his way into Saffron City after Team Rocket attacks Pallet Town and takes his grandfather.
Gold has the notable trait of having a one-track mind, where he focuses on something so much he will pursue that relentlessly, and ignoring anything else that doesn't pertain to that. Though, this trait manifests itself most when Gold pursues “pretty girls” such as the Kimono Girls, gym leader Jasmine, or even Crystal upon first discovering her.
Though it still can translate in the pursuit of Gold's goals, where he initially receives a Pokedex because he wanted to use it in battle, and urgently attempts to gain a unique specialty during the GSC arc.
Sapphire's dexholder title is specifically “The Conquer” in reference to her earning 8 gym badges in 80 days. She unrelentingly goes around the region to defeat the gym leaders—causing her to start off on the wrong foot with Ruby. And she turns it into a bet to reach their respective goals in 80 days all because it stemmed from a promise she made with her childhood friend to beat the record of Red when it came to the Pokemon League.
Pearl's title is the Determiner, one he received after bonding with Azelf—the lake guardian of Willpower. He managed to bond with Azelf because he completes whatever he starts; as clarified by Diamond in the arc. Determiner, willpower, completes whatever started...yeah, this screams dedication to a goal. Especially when you consider the focus Pearl gives to Dia's and his comedy routine.
For Black though, no matter how well I could paraphrase it, I will just quote this article (bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_(Adventures)): “Black is a young man who aspires to be the Champion of the Unova Pokémon League. He has been dreaming of this since childhood, nine years to be exact. However, these dreams fill his head to the point where he cannot think about anything else and any attempts to cause him to pass out from mental exhaustion...Due to his dreams causing him to forget about other things, Black has the tendency to do things without considering the consequences of his actions and their effects on other people.”
I think the above proves the point well enough.
Also, I would like to briefly mention Y. While Y isn't a fire type dexholder (she's a water type), since there is no fire type dexholder in Kalos (Malva doesn't really count), she is a kind of water/fire dual type with her personality. Y shouts more than most of the other water dexholders and exhibits a more solid determination to pursue her goal of becoming a Sky Trainer, even when this runs into direct opposition with her mother's ideas for her.
Lastly, we wrap up the fire dexholder with our latest protagonist, Sun. Sun has the goal of collecting 100 million yen. Acheiving this goal has been Sun's whole time in Alola in the making. He relentlessly pursues money, even prioritizing reaching his personal goal than helping the Alola region against the Ultra Beast invasion, leading him to get sucked into Ultra Space with Solgaleo.
Next up is the water type dexholders, which personally I found the revelation most interesting. It would be difficult to derive a personality solely from the type this time. Unlike fire which is associated with offensive battling, or grass which tends to be connected to defensive, water is viewed as the balance between the two. But, this doesn't really provide any clues into what is the common thread between all these dexholders. My findings, however, were that they all tend to be secretive.
Miss Con Artist (Blue), our first water type dexholder, is literally a con artist. Her whole livelihood is based of lying and keeping the truth about her real intentions to trick people into doing whatever she wants. Plus, she has her own secrets that only come to light much later into her appearance in the first arc and beyond. Her pathological fear of birds is only hinted at during the Team Rocket battle and confirmed during the Pokemon League when battle “Professor O”. Even more shocking was her childhood under the Masked Man, who trained her because of the promise she showed as a trainer.
This transitions nicely to our other dexholder who was raised under the Masked Man, Silver. And he so happens to be a water type dexholder as well. While Silver does not purposely keeping his life before the Masked Man close to his chest, it is revealed that Silver was the son of Giovanni, an insanely big secret that heavily impacted his character.
Ruby, in order to pursue his love of contests and oppose the beliefs of his father, refuses to battle at the beginning of the RS arc. This in turn hides his amazing battling skills (plus the fact he has a FREAKING CELEBI). Additionally, when it comes to the climax of the arc, he hides from Sapphire the plan he had to team up with Courtney to control Groudon and Kyogre. While still intended for her safety, it is still another massive lie and withholding of the truth on his part.
Platinum may not be thought of as being secretive, but the speech she makes after learning Dia and Pearl weren't her bodyguards begs to differ. Most of the lies she reveals in that speech were white lights told to make her not seem inferior and were obvious to the reader, but it still goes to show that she lied a fair amount. Her wealth and connection to the Berlitz family were also discovered rather than told by Platinum. And most obviously, she hid her real name of Platinum until this time! This whole journey, her companions didn't know what her true first name was!
Lack-two or Blake is another dexholder who has lying built into his occupation. Blake is with the International Police and working undercover during the B2W2 arc (Please give us some form of closure! #freeblack2k19). He literally has to keep his true intentions of hunting down the remnants of Team Plasma from his fellow classmates. Additionally, his true personality isn't shown to others either; he puts on a womanizing and flirtatious front when he truly an emotionless officer.
Y is honestly the least secretive out of the water dexholders, but that can also be attributed to her odd Volcanion (a fire-and-water type) fusion. It may not be obvious, or not in a way you expect, but Y does hide something—her feelings. Dealing with the human depression that is X and three of her other friends while trying to all live on their own and dealing with fallout from her mother on top of one of the most cruel evil teams yet? You think she would break down, or someone would help her; but none of the characters we follow demonstrate this concern! theviolenttomboy made a short post that summarizes all the sh*t Y goes through (theviolenttomboy.tumblr.com/post/146359425406/figured-out-why-i-cant-ship-y-with-absolutely), and how she has to deal with it all on her own. In order to keep the group alive, she has to hide her emotional distress. A problem not even resolved by the end of the arc.
Finally, we arrive at the grass type dexholders. Honestly this was the most tricky for me to pin down. Mostly because we have dexholders like Dia and X who have personalities that couldn't seem more different. So, I had to take a look back, and that's when I realized something. Both of the previous characterizations centred around how they achieve their goals. Fire type dexholders barrel through whatever obstacles are in their way and water type dexholders hide information as they pursue their goals. This gave me the clue of what to analyze for the grass type dexholders and this is my conclusion:
The way grass dexholders approach their goals is the most “healthy”. They are able to self-intrinsically motivate themselves when life discourages their goals and try to achieve them in a way that doesn't tend to hurt others as much as the other two dexholder categories (most of the time).
Honestly, this probably reminds you of a generic shonen protagonist, so it is fitting that the dexholder who started this characterization was the most shonen like character of all: Red. Red is able to convince himself to keep working towards his goal of becoming the strongest trainer, despite the obstacles he faces in the form of Team Rocket or people like his rival discouraging him from developing into a stronger trainer. The way he aims to be the strongest also doesn't harm many people, if people are affected, it tends to be accidental.
Crystal manages to stay firm in her goal of catching all the Pokemon even if the other Johto dexholders just see her as a girl at first. She can motivate herself to keep working towards it, and with the caring and give-back nature of Crystal, she is certainly not harming anyone on her path to reaching her goal. Minus a few face kicks to Gold.
Emerald certainly faced a lot of adversity that pushed him down. Becoming an orphan at a young age and made fun of for his small height, initially actually causing him to go against the foundation of grass dexholders being able to motivates themselves by resulting in a dislike of Pokemon and his stature. However, he develops this grass mindset as the Emerald arc progresses, finding what he enjoys, what makes him unique, and cultivating the confidence needed to be himself—even if life is still against him. Plus, while I can't speak for much of his actions in the Emerald arc (because I haven't red FRLG yet, and I know the events are directly connected), his title of the Calmer which stems from his ability to help Pokemon feel relaxed means he is at least not harming Pokemon much during his adventure.
One of the biggest character moments for Diamond is him managing to self-intrinsically motivate himself to pursue a goal despite opposition. In this case, the goal being to stop Team Galactic and his opposition being his best friend Pearl. Regardless, he succeeds in standing up to him and working towards thwarting Team Galactic, with the worst harm caused probably being Pearl's shock at Dia standing up for himself.
White seems to exhibit a peaceful way of pursuing her goal surrounding her talent agency for Pokemon. When her goal switches after Gigi leaves her for a bit, White's new focus on getting stronger at battling is still approached in much the same way. One where she convinces herself to keep working towards improvement and does not negatively affect people along the way.
Then we have the enigma of X. X doesn't seem to follow things of “motivation” or not inadvertently bringing down others with him, but that's only when his goal isn't clear. When we start with X in the XY arc, his goal is to stay in his room; locked away from the outside world. In this context, he meets all the criteria: he ends up convincing himself to work towards his goal of staying a shut-in, despite all the pleas to change this from his friends; and most of his protest to stay inside is silent and doesn't directly or physically harm his friends.
Lastly, our final dexholder is Moon, who also conforms to this characterization fairly well. Moon is able to pursue whatever she considers a priority, unaffected by outside influences. Whether it be praise from her work early on in the SM arc, or not listening to reason before chasing after Sun in the wormholes when he is taken away; leaving Alola to face the Ultra Beasts alone.
tl; dr : Each dexholder approaches their goals differently based on the type of their starter. Fire dexholders have strong enough determination to barrel through all the obstacles to their goal, knocking down everything and everyone in their way. Water dexholders are secretive and hide important information as they work towards their goal. Grass dexholders have the “healthiest” way of reaching their goals, managing to motivate themselves to keep working towards it when life tells them otherwise.
This information may be touched on again in other posts I'm planning: a follow-up talking about the “Bronze-age” progression of dexholder characterization, one about predicting what the Gen 8 protagonists of Pokespe will be like, and another discussing trio characterization.
~Thanks for reading and I'll be back soon!
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encontradoemti · 4 years
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1. Buzzwole: Rules are made to be broken. Pharamosa: They were made to be followed. Nothing is made to be broken. Blacephalon: Uh, piñatas. Nihilego: Glow sticks. Xurkitree: Karate boards. Guzzlord: Spaghetti when you have a small pot. Buzzwole: Rules. Pheromosa:
2. Buzzwole: Man, they look like a real handful. How do you deal with them? Pheromosa, watching Guzzlord screaming, Blacephalon trying to set a sleeping Xurkitree on fire, and Nihilego choking on air: I don't know either.
3. Pheromosa: Time for plan G. Blacephalon: Don’t you mean plan B? Pheromosa: No, we tried plan B a long time ago. I had to skip over plan C due to technical difficulties. Guzzlord: What about plan D? Pheromosa: Plan D was that desperate disguise attempt half an hour ago. Buzzwole: What about plan E? Pheromosa: I’m hoping not to use it. Xurkitree dies in plan E. Nihilego: I like plan E.
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5. Nihilego: I’m the smartest person in my friend group. Pheromosa: You hang out with Blacephalon, Buzzwole, Guzzlord, and Xurkitree. Pheromosa: It’s not as high a compliment as you think.
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What's the Two Looker theory?
the tldr version is that there are currently two lookers existing in the same universe, and that its going to be very relevant very soon.
but of course, that shortened version is worthless, because who would believe that without enthusiastic and lengthy elaboration? GET YOUR SEATBELTS ON CAUSE ITS TIME TO TALK POKEMON THEORY
(spoiler warning for sumo postgame ahead! also, seriously, you might want to go get a snack or something. this is long. really long.)
first up: you gotta know that gens 1-5 (and the remakes in those gens) are all in a separate but similar universe to the one in gen 6 and beyond. for convenience, ill call the first universe uni a and the second one uni b. 
(fyi most people refer to uni b as megaverse, but i want the names to match and nonmegaverse doesnt really... roll off the tongue quite as well, so,)
so you might be wondering what the fuck that means and how we know its true; to answer this we need to take a quick look at pokemons current timeline!
im unsure on which one of them came before the other in the timeline, but xy and oras both happen chronologically before sun and moon do. we know this because of dexio and sina appearing with the zygarde and mega evolution stuff, and wally appears at the battle tree as an older and more experienced trainer. 
these are canon, however for right now its mostly just hypothesis that chronologically speaking, after alola its sinnoh. the pkmn breeders from alola look IDENTICAL to the cowgirls/farmers from sinnoh, which doesnt seem to prove much about the order of things but it doesnt disprove anything either; its more like retrospective icing on the cake, since ill be explaining why i think this will be the timeline later on.
so, keep the idea of sinnoh coming after alola in mind. its also important to consider the idea of mega evolution as not just a game mechanic but an important plot point! basically, universe a has no mega evolution, while universe b does, and the differences in the plot between rse and oras are NOT retcons; theyre entirely different universes!
that might not look like it makes much sense on its own (without elaboration or if youre still attached to the belief that mega evo is JUST a game mechanic and not plot relevant or an indicator of anything) but its important to mention now, since as i explain more itll hopefully make more and more sense. 
believing this theory means you have to think about it like this, so while this isnt completely canon yet, its necessary to treat it like it is until you fully understand what this theory is all about and why it would make sense. if youre not convinced afterwards, then so be it! ... i mean, i dont understand how you WOULDNT be totally on board with this, but im not you and maybe youre not quite nearly as into spacetime shenanigans as i am.
now we head into sumos postgame stuff with the interpol! during this, we learn that there are people known as “fallers” that “fell” into a universe from another parallel universe through a mysterious portal, and seem to have lost most if not all of their memories. fallers attract ultra beasts, as the ubs believe they can somehow get home using them, sensing that this person is also not from this universe. 
looker explains that he was once sent on a mission to detain/kill an ultra beast. his team included a faller, who was unwittingly being used as bait for the ultra beast. looker felt pity for the ub and neglected to kill it, unfortunately giving the ub a chance to kill the faller, which it promptly took.
then its revealed that anabel is a faller, who was found washed up on a beach muttering something about protecting the battle tower, which is where you could find her in rse. 
but see, the battle tower doesnt exist in oras, instead replaced by the battle resort, and you do not meet anabel at any point in oras. the battle resort is also where you meet an amnesiac looker, muttering about a mission, speaking in a peculiar way, which is noticeably different to the way he speaks in xy and sumo. he did not make an appearance in rse, this isnt just reused dialogue.
hmmmmmmmm.
lets put looker aside for a moment though and focus on anabel. while theres a possibility that right now there are two anabels, it seems that she and the battle tower never existed in this universe... but mega evolution does. the anabel we see in rse is the same as the one in sumo; she crossed over from uni a into uni b.
now, lets look at some facts here!
in platinum, bw and oras, looker has a... peculiar speech pattern. if you look up his quotes on bulbapedia, youll see what i mean; its very noticeable.
... looker completely lacks that specific quirk in xy and sumo. hes goofy, yes, but its nowhere near the same. its important to note that oras happens between xy and sumo, and again, that looker didnt show up in rse and that dialogue is completely new. the differences in these speaking patterns are not mistakes. they are fully intentional.
next up: lets crush a few doubts about this theory you might be having right now!
“this is a kids game! surely this is WAY too convoluted. pokemon isnt that deep, they wouldnt bother with a plot this complicated.” wrong. nope. incorrect. buddy, did you play sumo or any gen 5 game? i can only assume you havent, cause not only were the plots in those games the most detailed and involved and emotional, they were BY FAR the best. additionally, kids are a lot smarter than youd think, and i also not only know theyre going to explain everything, i know HOW theyll do it; but i digress.
“youre implying there are two lookers because one speaks a certain way and had amnesia but isnt it possible theres just one, who either isnt a faller or is a faller but had no megaverse/uni b equivalent, and he got his memories back by the time you meet him in sumo?” wrong there too! remember, its CANON that xy and oras happen BEFORE sumo.
now remember anabel, who doesnt have her memories back and had no idea she was a faller.
and remember that xy/sumo looker is very, very explicitly stated to not be a faller, because otherwise, HE would have been the bait on that mission and HE would have been the one who got killed.
xy/sumo looker is definitely not a faller.
but dppt/bw/oras looker is.
if at this point youre still having doubts, heres a question. can you offer any other explanation that is all based on canon information, without retconning anything or making something up, and have it all make perfect sense and resolve all of the issues that come with going against this theory?
yeah, i cant either.
hopefully at this point you should be fairly convinced, but hold on! i still havent explained why i think sumo will chronologically happen before the plot in the dppt remakes! i was all like “this will make sense later” but i didnt talk about sinnoh much at all and havent completely gotten you on board with this yet! well guess what yall ITS SINNOH TIME
a quick note though: past this point is a lot of personal observation/opinion and speculation. its meant to explain why i think this theory is spot-on, and elaborate on what i think is going to happen. im not speaking for anyone else but myself and im not stating my own opinions as fact or concrete proof; though i am saying that i think im right about this.
with that out of the way, lets begin! its going to take a while, but the buildup is necessary (imo at least) and yes, this is in fact relevant to the theory.
something to notice is that the stories in pokemon games have been progressively getting more involved and interesting. there was hardly anything in the first two, gen 3 started getting more involved but its not much to write home about, gen 4 took it up a notch, and then gen 5 the life ruiner broke the fucking scale and punched me in the face.
so, we have all these plots, getting more detailed, but... not a whole lot is tying them together at first. sure, a few lines make reference to other games, johto and kanto are connected both plotwise and literally speaking, theres even that cameo character in bw who was a rocket grunt in a previous game! but theres nothing really significant that ties things together.
well, at least until gen 4.
in gen 4, we of course meet looker, who as a member of the interpol has reason to make further appearances in other games. and then he shows up in every game afterwards, sometimes for a while, sometimes only briefly. less significantly but it does help the point im about to make, we also get caitlins first appearance, who ends up being part of unovas elite 4, and johto is a part of gen 4 as well, which was already a point of connection between regions, but gen 4 added the sinjoh ruins, connecting the games within the same gen!
after gen 4, the games vary in how much they connect to the others, but it definitely changed the standard.
and then sun and moon came out.
even the very start of the game: you move from kanto to alola, meet alolan variations of kantonian pokemon, meet grimsley and colress from bw/bw2, meet dexio and sina from xy, and watch sadly as lillie breaks everyones heart and leaves for kanto.
then, after that, you can go to the battle tree and meet not only red and green, but cynthia, steven, and wally, and you can find grimsley, colress, dexio and sina here too. or, you can go participate in the postgame plot with looker and anabel, who are also returning characters; though anabel is significantly more unexpected than looker. it was pretty unexpected finding out caitlin was part of unovas elite four, huh?
and hey, didnt sinnoh have a lot of weird space/time shit? palkia and dialga are the gods of time and space, and giratina has a whole other dimension where everything seems wrong and alien and mildly uncomfortable, with a strange area theme that seems just slightly off, where you meet/battle the games biggest antagonist, who has become mentally unhinged by spending time there.
oh... and alola has fallers and ultra beasts, who came from other timelines/universes... and you go into ultra space, which is a whole other dimension where everything seems wrong and alien and mildly uncomfortable, with a strange area theme that seems just slightly off, where you meet/battle the games biggest antagonist, who has become mentally unhinged by spending time there.
plus, gen 4 is the first where you can at any point walk around with your pokemon behind you, making you feel closer to your pokemon than ever, and alola shows a significantly stronger connection between humans and pokemon than ever seen before, even compared to xys introduction of pokemon amie (the trials, ride pokemon, the fact that humans are specifically stated to have influenced several alolan variations, z moves, the ceremony for choosing your starter, everything about the aether foundation/type: null, if you consider ultra beasts pokemon then lusamines a very literal example, there are LOADS of examples)
... and diamond and pearl are next up for remakes.
in gen 7.
paired with alola.
i wonder if the two games are going to be EXTREMELY connected?
personally im willing to bet that the distortion world IS ultra space, i think itd make a lot of sense of cyrus knew what happened in alola and became interested because of it, and that team galactic will be pursuing ultra beasts (which there will likely be more of). 
i also think uni a!looker and uni b!looker are going to meet.
imagine with me for a moment.
diamond and pearl remakes come out. you enter jubilife city, where you meet looker! you have a conversation, he introduces himself, then disappears. 
you move on, and-- oh! theres looker again! you say hello, but he strangely doesnt recognize you and introduces himself again. ... odd.
you see him again. he recognizes you and references your first conversation, but doesnt seem to know anything about your second.
a fourth meeting. once again, he doesnt remember your previous conversation, and also seems to be doing something entirely different, and... hell, he doesnt even SOUND the same...
now, after a while of this, hes realizing somethings up. hes a fucking member of the interpol, hes goofy but hes not an idiot. he guesses that he has an impostor, and begins searching for this impostor so he can confront/apprehend them.
sometime later, maybe in the postgame, maybe in the maingame, you meet him again and have a short chat, when hes suddenly interrupted by a phone call. he hangs up and informs you that someone spotted his impostor, and speeds off to go deal with this. he doesnt tell you where hes going, but he didnt need to; you can easily guess from the phone call that you should head to jubilife city.
there, you see two lookers arguing with each other, and loads of shenanigans ensue because looker is so goofy and endearing theres no way its not going to be hilarious and silly at first; but then when everything calms down, shit gets serious, and anabel ends up showing up.
im willing to bet shes going to feel some kind of connection to uni a!looker; nothing specific, just an odd, unidentifiable feeling that... ah, it eludes her. strange indeed that he seems to also feel... something, that he cant identify at all; he just knows its there. is it... kinship of some kind? but that wouldnt make sense, theyre both certain theyve never met, and theyre certainly not related. how curious!
of course, that only remains a mystery until they figure out this other looker is a faller, and everything starts simultaneously making more and less sense.
of course thats all just my own prediction for how itll happen, but i dont think im far off base at all and i think itd be completely in line with both lookers character and how pokemon games operate.
now, a lot of people believe that this theory means one of the lookers has to die, and to that i say what. no. look, that “there can be only one” shit is completely unnecessary and i REALLY doubt that theyre going to kill off a looker, especially considering how much everyones grown to like him (or at least everyone ive ever spoken to who knows who he is. seriously, hes too lovable for this.)
instead, i think the following will happen!
1) the lookers partner up and work together (and tell people theyre just twins)
2) they find a way to send uni a!looker back to universe a, or somehow create a way to communicate/travel between universes
3) we learn more about what happened in universe a, and why both anabel and looker were mumbling vague things about urgent missions when they were found washed up on beaches
im not sure that all of these will happen in the same game (in fact i highly doubt it) but it seems like the logical progression of things. 
i think im out of things to say so there you go! thats the two looker theory and how i think itll play out in canon! there are likely a few things im missing, but im fairly certain the information i provided isnt incorrect, just possibly incomplete (sure hope not though cause ive been writing this response for no joke four hours straight). hope it helped and also converted you to the two looker theory club, or the tltc. if you join you get a free croagunk sticker and also a heart-shaped locket with a picture of looker in it if you dont already have your own
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The delayed Vega chip is supposed to be AMD’s re-entry into that top tier market space, so its variants will need to be able to compete with Nvidia’s GTX 1070 and (even more so) the 1080 cards. But Vega’s late arrive means it may not be up against just the 1070s and 1080s for long. Those cards are now a year old, and Nvidia is preparing for the launch of its new Volta chip later this year. Depending on how that performs, Vega may find itself in the unfortunate position of arriving just in time to compete with the prior generation of upper-end cards, rather than the new one.
A lot of these thoughts are speculation at this point, of course. Besides the niche ‘Frontier Edition’ of Vega (aimed at number crunching tasks like video editing, rather than the gaming mainstream), none of the cards are out yet. But there is a fair bit of information out there to piece together, which I’ll do below. This piece is going to stick to broadly layman’s terms about performance, price, and availability; I’ll leave in-depth analysis of teraflop architecture (is that even a thing?) to the specialist tech press.
Vega.
How many GPUs are we looking at in RX Vega’s line-up?
According to leaked information on the German site 3DCenter, there will be three flavours of RX Vega. Enthusiasts of terrible GPU naming schemes will be delighted to learn that Vega’s (again, if accurate) will not disappoint. It appears there will be a scaled back version sold as the RX Vega XL, an air-cooled RX Vega XT that uses the full power of the chip, and a third, power-hungry beast of a card called the RX Vega XTX which requires water cooling. The XT and XTX should have 8GB of HBM2 VRAM. That detail isn’t listed for the XL (maybe there’ll be 4GB/8GB versions).
Of course that any or all of that could be incorrect. Perhaps those are internal code names (oh god, I hope they are internal code names). Perhaps there aren’t even three variations. The information, though, looks to be credible.
What kind of performance can we expect from RX Vega?
Answering that with specifics ahead of release and proper benchmarking is impossible, but there are bits and pieces of information available that give a general impression. AMD themselves have been cautious about showing Vega in action.
The two demonstrations we do have feature Doom and Prey running at 4K. That Doom demo is the clearest and more impressive of the two, showing miscellaneous ‘Vega’ running the game at 60-70fps at 4K on Ultra settings. Running Doom with the Vulkan API is pretty much the friendliest possible testing bed for AMD, but, nonetheless, those results put it theoretically ahead of the vanilla 1080 and behind the 1080Ti. Adjusting for Doom/Vulkan being an AMD sweet spot, that probably suggests performance on par with the 1080 in other games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku5OMWYVKSs
But that Doom video was quite old, from back in January 2017. The Prey demo was much more recent (at Computex in May), and also much more vague. AMD said the game was using two RX Vega cards in Crossfire, and running it at 4K Ultra settings. No frame-rate was shown, though it was clearly above 60. You’d hope so, because Prey is not exactly difficult to run at 60/4K with a top-tier GPU, let alone two. That demo, in short, didn’t really tell us a whole lot (other than the fact AMD didn’t really want to show RX Vega at Computex).
Dipping into slightly more speculative territory, some recent 3DMark 11 scores attributed to Vega have shown up in the last week or so. They fit the bill, in the sense that the newest scores put the ‘687F:C1 8GB’ either a little ahead or a little behind the GTX 1080 (it varies) and well behind the 1080Ti.
Finally, there’s the Vega FE. Not strictly a card for gaming, true. But it’s a Vega card that’s actually out and has been benchmarked. Performance from FE was not particularly good, even falling behind the 1070 in certain games (while, in others, it was touching the vanilla 1080).
Vega: FE.
Taking all of that into consideration, and baring in mind that Vega is AMD’s push towards the higher end of the GPU hierarchy, performance akin to a vanilla GTX 1080 looks like the safest bet. Probably higher in some AMD-oriented titles, maybe lower in some Nvidia ones. But to expect anything more with the information available at this point seems optimistic, or puts almost evangelical faith in drivers making huge performance gains.
The cut-down version (RX Vega XL, mentioned above) may well be AMD’s GTX 1070 equivalent. I’m not sure what to make of the water-cooled RX Vega XTX; it should be the most powerful option, so if anything in this line-up is going to get close to the 1080Ti, it will be this one.
How about power draw?
It looks bad. The leaked listings have Vega XL/XT requiring 285W (just the GPU, not a total system draw) and Vega XTX thirsty for a massive 375W. The GTX 1080 is listed as requiring 180W, by way of comparison.
Again, the leaks may be nonsense, but they’re supported by Vega: FE benchmarks showing very high power consumption. It looks like Vega will demand a hefty PSU.
Vega: SF.
How much will RX Vega cost then?
This is how AMD have made their GPUs enticing of late. Okay, yes, GTX 1080 level performance for Vega wouldn’t exactly be outstanding with Volta just around the corner. The power draw looks fairly obscene. But if the price is right, you could still end up with high performance that’s decent value for money.
The problem with any kind of GPU price estimates at the moment is that GPU prices are utterly mental thanks to crypto-currency mining. Until that dies down again (and it will, those mining rates keep fluctuating) the prices are hugely inflated.
Assuming a situation where there’s a more standard pricing model, though, AMD will probably come in cheaper than their Nvidia counterparts. That has been the tactic in the past, and I don’t really see much reason for it to change.
My guess: if the Vega XT turns out to be ‘slightly better than a 1080,’ then it’ll also be priced a little cheaper than Nvidia’s card. Likewise for the XL and the 1070. Basically, I think the company will price the RX Vega variants slightly lower than whatever their nearest competing cards turn out to be.
Vega(s): Heaven or Las.
When are these going to be available, anyway?
RX Vega is expected to ‘launch’ at the Siggraph event on 30 July. I’m putting snarky quote marks around that because history has taught us that the existence of a handful of reference boards at retail doesn’t really mean widespread availability for the masses.
More leaked details suggest that third-party manufacturers are getting the final RX Vega BIOS source on 2 August. To me that sounds like late August (at best) for cards from MSI, Powercolor, Sapphire and the rest. Recalling how long it took AMD partner RX 480s to appear, September could even be a safe assumption. On the brighter side, that should give crypto-currency mining time to calm down a bit.
I’m allergic to speculation, when will there be more concrete information?
As mentioned, the line-up launch will be at Siggraph in LA on 30 July. It’s possible that further RX Vega details will be released by AMD ahead of that date. The chip is ‘on tour’ in July and heading to Budapest on the 18th. With luck, more information will come to light on that date.
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