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filmnoirsbian · a day ago
I'm not sure if you've answered this before but what are some of the best mythology books that you've read before? (This may seem a bit out there, Arthurian books too?) I want to expand my reading list and better my English
Unsure if you mean just straight up mythology or myth retellings. For retellings I recommend: the autobiography of red & red doc by Anne Carson, the penelopiad by Margaret Attwood, lavinia by Ursula K Le Guin, the vegetarian by Han Kang, an orchestra of minorities by Chigozie Obioma, home fire by Kamila Shamsie, till we have faces by C. S. Lewis, the icarus girl by Helen Oyeyemi, the arabian nights translated by Husain Haddawy, helen in egypt by Hilda Doolittle
I read a kid series about merlin when I was young but I don't remember the name. Other than that, my only delve into arthurian books specifically is the fall of arthur by J.R.R. Tolkien
And, while not a retelling, I am once again asking everyone to read the epic of gilgamesh
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filmnoirsbian · 3 days ago
Thank you for those tags about aging. I try not to be worried about aging but I worry about time a lot anyway.
Completely unrelated but I recently read anne Carson’s translation of an oresteia (I know you love Electra the most, but Orestes and Kassandra my beloveds) and how much do you think Clytemnestra’s killing of Agamemnon actually had to do with Iphigenia? I was unsure how much of that was to do with clearing the way for her lover to take the throne vs revenge. I felt as if maybe Iphigenia was her excuse. Also, that ending? With Apollo? It threw me off so much. Do you have any thoughts on it?
Hope you’re doing wonderfully❣️❣️❣️
Oh we're talking Oresteia today 🥳 okay okay so first I wanna address Euripides's version of Orestes, which is the version Carson chose to translate. So frankly, I really like Euripides's plays, I think they're fucking hysterical, and I think his Orestes is one of the funniest comedies out there, even though it's technically a tragedy but like. Come on. "Find a new wife, Menelaus." Comedy gold. But so it's nothing like the actual myth of Orestes, right? And it certainly is nothing like Aeschylus's Eumenides, which purposefully has Athena refuse to just forgive and solve Orestes's problems, but instead puts him on trial and has a vote. And that was very much a message from Aeschylus to Greece about their whole habit of revenge-based laws which he thought were Not Cool >:( and the Oresteia as a whole was really his way of saying "Hey! Probably revenge and justice are not the same thing and vengeance is a really tricky slope that can easily turn into an inescapable snake-eating-its-tail situation, so maybe we should like. Cut that out. Remember trials? Aren't trials so cool and such a good way to enforce just Athenian law, which our great city is known for?" Okay so Euripides, by contrast.......may have been patriotic. There's a lot of disagreement regarding his work...was it patriotic or a satirical commentary? Was he pro Athens or pro Sparta? Was he pro war or anti war? Was he an atheist or did he genuinely believe in divine providence? We don't..really know. But a lot of people do consider his Orestes to be a social commentary on Athenian culture at the time, and it certainly doesn't seem like a positive one. To take a play which originally spotlighted one of Athens' greatest triumphs--their noted devotion to judicial practices (having Athena! Their goddess! Their namesake! Preside over the trial and cast the winning vote, effectively saving Orestes and putting an end to the cycle of violent revenge!)--and just....not showing it lmao. Just put that shit off screen, and had Apollo declare the winner! Before the trial even happened, thereby declaring it meaningless! That sure was a message from Euripides and I live for drama. He was, it must be said, not super popular with the Greek audiences--certainly nowhere near as well-liked as Aeschylus--although he was a smash hit in Italy!
Anyway, I really recommend reading Aeschylus' Oresteia in full because, well, it is the blueprint. But personally I think Euripides's Orestes is a riot.
Now, as for analyzing Clytemnestra, which I love to do in my spare time............I don't know! I flip flop. Some days I'm sure she would have killed Agememnon regardless of whether or not Iphigenia survived. Some days I'm not so sure. It doesn't help that there are so many different versions of her characterization. If we go by Homer, she and Agememnon did love each other a fair amount, at least in the beginning. But Homer also made her a lot more subdued and her role in Agamemnon's death downright questionable, and also I don't really like Homer's version lmao. If we go by Euripides....it gets a lot more complicated and frankly I don't like Iphigenia in Aulis so I just disregard all that. (Don't worry king, I still prefer your Orestes) Generally I like to believe that Clytemnestra and Agememnon did love each other, and their children, which is why their betrayals hurt one another so deeply. I believe Agememnon only sacrificed Iphigenia because he felt he had no choice (all of his men would die otherwise, and thus they would lose the war, and who knew what Troy would do to their loved ones at home). I believe Clytemnestra also killed Agememnon because she felt she had no choice (her daughter had been killed; this required vengeance. Her husband had failed at being a husband, and he had failed at being a father, and he had failed at being a king. She could not hope to be rid of him any way but by force.) I also believe Clytemnestra enjoyed killing her husband, even if she hesitated just before the act itself. And I do believe she committed the act. I don't think Aegisthus did anything but watch; I don't think Clytemnestra would have let him. Agememnon was her husband, and his crime had been against her, so his death also belonged to her. She would let no one else have it. One of the biggest elements of the tragedy is inevitability. Iphigenia's sacrifice was inevitable, and so Agememnon's death was inevitable, and so was Clytemnestra's later at her own children's hands. Aegisthus, Kassandra and even the gods are replaceable, but those three acts remain.
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satans-bitch-b0y · 3 days ago
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i just watched given??? and it was??? amazing?? my only complaint...i need another season-or a whole other show- based upon watching the two relationships grow. i think haurki and akihiko would be a nice suited couple...HOWEVER...that does not excuse what akihiko did and i think their relationship would need a lot-and i mean a LOT- of damage control after that and i just think another season or a whole other show would be nice to get to see them grow and gain eachothers trust and form new boundaries. also i need to see more of violinist akihiko. and maybe bring back haurki’s hair bc rly? was it that necessary to cut it off? i mean yeah ik why they did it but stilll. first matt holt and now haurki, smh 🤦‍♂️ anyways that’s my hot take on it. it was amazing and like yeah y’all should go watch it
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dressedincotton · 3 days ago
Which occasion triggered you to say or drive that you dive into a dynamic initially?
It was something we had discussed for awhile and we were just ready at the time I guess! I don’t think any specific occasion triggered it.
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dressedincotton · 3 days ago
Did you rather start as a part-time slave, or 24/7 but less strict?
Hmm... I don’t know if either of those fit exactly. Once we committed to a dynamic we added rules, tasks, protocols slowly. My confidence letting go of control over certain things grew as time went on. I definitely wouldn’t say ‘structured’ D/s was a 24/7 thing for us at first but I still considered him my dominant 24/7 🤔
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dressedincotton · 4 days ago
Did you rather start as a sexual slave or a domestic slave, back then?
At the beginning of our dynamic I submitted in sexual and non sexual ways but in smaller ways at first.
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archangelgabriellives · 5 days ago
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Look I know its been forever
but its time to finish the last section of In The Beginning.
For those not in the know, In the Beginning is a Gabriel fanfic project I started a while ago (before s13 god im so sorry this is so long ago) where different fanfic authors would each take a chapter and chonical the Archangel Gabriel from SPN from the time he jumped from Heaven up until he met the Winchesters for the very first time in the excellent episode Tall Tales.
It brought out the absolute best in our authors and even had a few fanarts made for a few chapters.
This project has never left my mind, even if it unfortunately got pushed to the back of the list of things I was working on.
So lets finish it!!
We have made it up to Chapter 11 and we need 5 more to finish it, chapters 12-16. I'm going to open all those spots back up. I know a few of those authors are not on Tumblr anymore and I think its just better to start fresh.
If you think that you would be interested in writing a chapter, let me know. Send an ask, message or even in the notes. We can set the same parameteres as before. You can have about two weeks or so to finish the chapter (I was pretty loose with this in the past but Idid check up on authors) and the only limit is to keep it in line with what the other authors before you have set as precedent in their previous chapters.
This is an important project for me and I'm hoping together we can close it out. I had plans to also make hard copies for all the authors, maybe even sell some for charity (possibly for Richs birthday). I had even asked @consulting-cannibal at a con (when we could still have them) about doing some cover art!
So please reblog so we can finish this wonderful project!
Tagging previous story followers and authors below the cut. Tag anyone you think might be interested! And if nothing else consider reading this amazing story.
Chapter 12:
Chapter 13:
Chapter 14:
Chapter 15:
Chapter 16:
All chapters 12-16 will deal with Gabriel’s time on Earth. Chapter 16 will end with Gabriel meeting the Winchesters at Crawford Hall in Tall Tales.
Author list
@revwinchester @ttttrickster @phantomwarrior12 @anxiety-fuel @sugar-high-viking @callmemisshorizon @maximumsuckage @tricksterxangel @archangelgabriellives @nobodys-baby-now @marichromatic @smartbutuncertified @lastsavinggrace @archangelsanonymous @archangelashiah @archangel-with-a-shotgun
Reader list
@purrfectmochi @howaboutnotcaring @itwasamoose @animerose96 @erisunderthemoon @whatthehelliknow @primenumberscanbeintimidating @rainbowtransform @nnegan @sabrielsterek705 @supernatural618 @frankeigh @idabbleincrazy @thejennster @copperseraphim @otrera-kicks-ass @ilovetvshowsblog @weirdnewbie
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gardenofironcomic · 7 days ago
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Page seven: “‘Soon?”
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filmnoirsbian · 7 days ago
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LET YOUR FATHER DIE ENERGY DRINK by Daniel Lavery and Cecilia Corrigan / Electra at the Tomb of Agememnon by Frederic Leighton (1869) / Kristin Scott Thomas as Electra (2014) / Ilektra (1962) / Electra at the Tomb of Agememnon by William Blake Richmond (1874) / Electra by Hermann Wilhelm Bissen / Clytemnestra by John Collier (1882) / Clytemnestra Hesitates Before Killing the Sleeping Agememnon by Pierre Narcisse Guérin (1822)
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julielilac · 7 days ago
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GOOD OMENS • In the Beginning
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suncaptor · 8 days ago
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I personally think it was of his own free will that Cas chose to touch Dean's arm when Dean was overwhelmed and sad during in the beginning and looked at him with all the care in the world.
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gardenofironcomic · 9 days ago
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Page six: Time.
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urbanemundane · 10 days ago
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Time to
Unpack and reset
And spill my mind over the internet.
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