s/o to dark and daisuke for deconstructing so much of their potential for antagonism too tbh. their extremely weird moral alignment always isolates them between good/evil parties and that's meta. they steal but they don't kill, they don't care who they selfishly steal from but still have other selfless, protective reasons for the theft. that's how it's supposed to be for them both, but also rather than fill themselves up with bitterness or anger as is the motivation for a lot of stereotypical villains, they'll always be the sorts to make note of and appreciate even the smallest intimacies and kindnesses instead. because they're so isolated and they want something beyond it, they're likewise always trying for connection. there are some characters that are swift to develop grudges and a vengeance that immediately squares them against the world and brings them enemies, and sure dark especially can be habitually petty or apathetic, but even then as long as he's with daisuke, then they're both the sorts to pay immense gratitude to those who accept and assist rather than linger obsessively over people who've hurt them.
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Been thinking a lot about Part 5 characters with Digimon, and I think Lucemon would be a very fun partner for Giorno. Lucemon is typically an antagonist in Digimon media, so I think it'd be interesting to give a partner like that to Giorno, who keeps them in check with his strong moral compass.
Also the angel symbolism is just really neat and it works pretty well with Giorno being the son of "God" (aka DIO).
i could see that working too yeah! it could present an interesting dynamic where lucemon's ability to evolve depends entirely on how well they work with someone like giorno, and if he's partnered with a lucemon who doesn't share the same vision as him it would present an opportunity for an arc where one or both of them have to compromise on their views and act beyond strict ideas of good and evil to grow stronger. the only problem that comes to mind is the satan mode that's both visually and thematically the opposite of giorno in many ways, i guess it could make for a nice contrast but it might be a bit much for my tastes lol
also i may have mused about these jojo digimon shenanigans enough to have pucci partner with a lucemon as a way for him to create his new world oop
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throwing my hat in the ring. calling my shots. if i say them out loud i will either have really good luck or really bad luck so we’re going for it!
i am manifesting MaX. Nagomi Nava. Sandoval Crossing. Alaynabella Hollywood. Sutton Bishop. Alexandria Rosales. Fitzgerald Blackburn. Parker MacMillan. Agan Espinoza. some of these players will drop in the final three falls (please 🤞)
extra points if any of them end up back at home (if applicable) i just think they deserve it
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I've wanted to write a dissertation on the localization differences in Sawashiro's Chapter 13 scenes FOREVER you have NO idea, thank you so much for pointing that out.
I did experience the full game back when it was only out in Japanese so I've certainly got Thoughts on both in comparison to the original as well. Although it's not exactly what you were talking about, I do personally think the playfulness is 100% purposeful and the more accurate take in this case! Not just in a literal sense, but in terms of authorial intent.
Chapters 1, 2, and 13 specifically are full of homages to and subversions of his character as seen in RGGO. Playfulness, unpredictability, and an off-putting sense of humor are central to RGGO!Sawashiro. He also happens to be particularly fond of fake-outs like that.
Obviously a lot has changed between games, but there's a lot of fascinating interplay as well, even with 7!Sawashiro's much more subdued presentation. Yokoyama has said he was going for a story that doesn't require RGGO's context to understand or enjoy, but a story that's nonetheless made more interesting by taking RGGO's context into account. The effects of that approach are of course going to be apparent in RGGO's main antagonist.
So I don't think it's far-fetched at all to say there's a sense of humor there we just don't get to see much of, being Ichi and being in the situations we're in when we encounter him. I think that kind of works for him as a character whose idiosyncrasies are conveyed equally by what we see and what we don't see.
... I guess I kind of ended up writing a dissertation anyway lol sorry
this is like getting a letter from the president thank you so much for your dissertation and your work in general im actually framing this on my brain walls
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