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#im so tired of people being fatshamed
chaoticgenders · 2 years
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Good Lord I hope this makes sense. // tw ED
fat person: talking about how fatphobia is a real thing, and that they do face some forms of discrimination in certain spaces, especially in medical fields.
skinny person: "but i got called spider legs and people tell me to eat a burger!!!!"
so what? yes, someone body shaming you is bad. not saying it isn't. yet if you literally bring up this shit EVERY TIME someone is trying to fucking talk about their own experiences and how they face literal discrimination it gets...tedious to say the least.
BOTH skinny shaming and fatshaming is bad. NO ONE is saying which one is worse. BOTH get discriminated against for weight in their own ways.
WE (FAT PEOPLE) JUST WANT PEOPLE TO REALIZE WE GO THROUGH THIS SHIT BECAUSE NO ONE BELIEVES US NOT EVEN MEDICAL DOCTORS.
we get discriminated against ESPECIALLY in medical fields and social situations.
i've just seen so much bs over it. body positivity is suppose to be for everyone. but FOR SOME REASON people are either making it TOO MUCH like themselves or doesn't want to acknowledge that body positivity is REALLY for everyone.
this entire thing has kinda spiraled, idk if i made sense.
there's so much i wanna talk about when it comes to being obese and shit because i've been through so much and EVERYONE throws it out the window because "i'm fat and i do it to myself, just stop eating."
and speaking of stopping eating.
fat people with eating disorders exist.
i don't know why people don't believe so.
it drives me insane that people NEED to be literal skin and bones to even be remotely taken seriously for have a ED. like- WHAT THE FUCK??
i've went days without eating, crying over stupid fucking calories, and having mental breakdowns over a soda, JUST for motherfuckers to say fat people can't have EDs because "they don't look like it"
also. a big portion of the time people are fatphobic, they're fucking ableist/ignorant.
im just so tired for people literally telling me i'm not a real human for being fat.
people have told me to my face i'm not a person
they've put person in quotations when refering to me because i'm obese.
you genuinely don't see that with thin people. i've never seen someone go "i don't find thin people worthy of respect" or "thin "people"" you haven't.
im so exhausted. body positivity has DEADASS made my ED worse because almost every time i see people promoting body positivity it's a thin person only promoting thin people or a fat person living their lives and the comments making me wanna throw up my fucking dinner.
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sluttyten · 4 years
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Bea im really glad you agree w/ me bc when i talk to my irls abt this whole "fat kun" (ive even heard them say it to haechan) shtick, they say im reaching. But the thing is these boys are public figures and i honestly dont think they believe fat people are lesser, im sure they dont! But jokes like these are def harmful, and its rare to find someone who isnt fat acknowledge the harmful effects of fatphobia on the mental health of youth and people on general. Woke queen bea! Im glad u understand
Yes I totally get what you’re saying! Jokes about weight are so harmful. Like everyone has at least one comment someone said to them years ago on any aspect of their appearance that still haunts them and affects the way that they look at themselves. And I’m sure for people who have heard time and again jokes or purposefully harmful jabs about their weight experience a high level of discomfort in their physical appearance like dysmorphia which negatively impacts how they see themselves vs. how they actually look, and it’s awful.
My best friend growing up frequently had her dad tell her that she was fat. He ridiculed her for it and ended up bribing her to lose weight, which in the end probably was best for her, but I think he went about it in an entirely incorrect way. And also she was a kid and would have lost that weight when she started to grow out of her baby fat. I hated the way that he talked to her about her weight. I hate the way my grandma shits on her sister and brother-in-law for their weight and the way she talks to my cousin about hers. My other cousin has dealt with ED sort of, not that my grandma probably knows about that either. I’ve just paid attention over the years to the way that weight is such a factor in how people are viewed and how negatively it can impact a person’s view of themselves and their mental health as they tear themselves apart in an effort to please the rest of the world.
But anyone who needs this listen!! Be fat and happy! Who cares what other people think of you! I promise you that you’re beautiful no matter your weight!
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tearfullypink · 4 years
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how fucking hard is it to understand that fat ppl have it worse than skinnier ppl...like....sure some ppl r anorexic but they get that disease bc society tells them being fat is nasty. u will not believe the amount of pro ana blogs I've seen fatshaming themselves (And others!!!!) like!! it's based in fatphobia!!! 
and Sure some skinny ppl have weird metabolism, but they get praised for this. or at the very least, they get an "ur great just the way you are!!" speech, and society tells them they're ok. it tells them they're desirable. 
and sure some skinny ppl don't butt in all the time. they're suchhhh good allies for pointing out how woke they are
fat ppl don't get this. when fat ppl have a weird metabolism, they get shamed. fat people are just told to lose weight, no matter if they (most fucking likely!!!) already tried. like...i don't think skinny ppl realise how Hard it is to lose weight, since ive seen most of them say "its easy!". if it was that easy we'd all be fucking sticks already 
fat ppl are mocked and ridiculed everywhere, and if they're happy with themselves, they immediately get called names. if u like a fat person, ur a chubby chaser bc fat ppl can't Possibly be attractive. Fat ppl have to make attempts to look skinnier bc that's the ideal body. fat ppl have to modify what they eat in front of others bc they don't want to come across as the "fat person who eats a lot" stereotype
im just so tired of ppl comparing the two when society tells skinny ppl get "oh u look a bit thin..." and tells fat ppl that theyre inherently ugly and they have to lose weight to be loved
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rachel-bloom · 5 years
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Can I ask why you dislike Nathaniel so much? Before him I was also a HUGE grebecca shipper but Nathaniel seemed like a better match for her in Greg’s absence. And I was surprised actually once Greg came back I didn’t love him the same way I did before for some reason.
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prepare for a rant because im tired of this fandom’s obsession with him 
very negative so don’t even read this if you’re a n*thaniel stan and don’t even bother to argue with me because you know i’m right
but he wasn't a better match, i don't wanna say you in particular but most of the fandom is just blinded by his good looks. like he isn't a good person? he gets a pass for everything he does bc "bohoo he had a bad childhood and his dad doesn't give a fuck about him" like who the fuck cares? i know crazy ex gf is a comedy but r/n songs are like...... weird bc he either fatshames her for comedic value which is like... gross? or the line "it wasnt technically hitler's fault hitler's brother died and that made him super sad" and rebecca is..... jewish. like thats a big yikes from me bro. 
point of their whole relationship is that it's always been about being bad and feeding into her darkness that she wanted to experience at the beginning of s3 like "hey im a bad girl im gonna ruin josh chan's life" i think point of the show is also like that all 3 relationships were never at any point healthy but people excusing nathaniel's behavior after s4 is like.... whelp
he has like....... zero personality out of his relationship with rebecca it's always just about rebecca about being with her and getting in her pants like look.. i didn't really care about him in s2/s3 sure it hurt a lot when greg left and he was right there and it was easy to transfer my love for greg onto him just because he was there and rebecca's new love interest but even now when i look back he wasn't like a good person?  i don't wanna be nitpicky and mention the smallest things but like he was willing to commit murder to have sex with her and that's like.. messed up lmao. i did start hating him hardcore in s4 though. like he literally never respected any of her wishes she says "nathaniel leave me alone we're not good together" and then he manipulates her brother (a literal minor) into giving him rebecca's diary so he could manipulate her and be like "omg look i know this and this maybe we are soulmates after all" the moment he said "everytime we're happy you try to ruin it" it was literally over for me lmao idk how yall can ship this. like 80% of the excuses r/n shippers have is that he's hot and "greg hates waterparks so he's a bad person" when we all know rebecca's mind portrayal of songs and people is not always accurate to reality.
ALSO, he's been on the show for 2 seasons and he hasn't developed for one single fucking second and then he gets ONE day dream episode and suddenly hes a changed man??????? lmao. i admit the turning maya into rebecca at the end and the "let me go" was beautiful i cried not for shipping purposes but because of how rachel acted the scene out and how heartbroken he was BUT it was literally for nothingggg lmao. the second grebecca breaks up he's all up her ass again.
i don't know how much you know about bts stuff but aline (the co-show runner or whatever she is) is OBSESSED with nathaniel it's not even funny anymore, there's been this interview but i can't find it) anyways she was so hell bent on redeeming his worthless ass that it was rushed in the final episode (i admit the zoo thing was cute but i think they only did that because it was you know ~meta~ bc of his zoo song and they had zero idea what to actually do with him bc apparentely there was lots of i don't wanna say discourse but arguments between rachel and aline when it came to what to do with his character in general)
also the BeCauSe iM nIcE noW was so fucking annoying like it wasnt even comedic anymore it was just bad writing
sorry if you like him lmao i just get really worked up about this subject
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fortunatelyfresco · 5 years
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i get nervous posting positive stuff about anything that A) costs money and B) contains... Bad/Questionable/YMMV content bc I don’t want to be the reason someone drops money on something that ends up hurting them.
so while i super do not have the time or energy to get involved in any Bird Discourse, nor do I want to depress anyone with continuous discussions of xyz, here is my one post acknowledging some of the more uh... questionable things in The Bird Dating Game, and also just some general content warnings, if anyone is thinking about buying it or watching an LP and would like the option of a heads up.
also i know i’m overthinking this bc i have like 100 followers and this game is old! but. u know.
Spoilers ahead, sorry!! Kind of impossible to avoid. As much as this post does spoil, there is so much left, I assure you. Putting under a readmore.
Also I played this entire game in like 2 sittings and it’s all a bit of a blur so I might be missing stuff.
1. There is a (teenage or bird-equivalent to teenage) character who repeatedly calls other characters “m*ngrel” and “h*lf-br*ed.” He gets better but not until much later in the game, and it’s one of those “plot twist, the bigot was actually the thing he hated all along” stories. Also he’s French and looks down on Japan and Japanese people. He also makes a comment that a Filipino character should “go back to the Philippines and bang some coconuts together” (JESUS CHRIST, DUDE)
Now o bviously as a white American playing a Japanese game I’m not in a position to make blanket statements or tell anyone how to feel about these writing choices. I just... don’t want to withhold the information and deny people the chance to make an informed decision about content that they might be tired of hearing / having to think about. This character shows up in multiple routes, he’s a big part of the much longer endgame, and you can’t get to the endgame without pursuing his route twice in slightly different ways.
(Tho that is fairly easy with a walkthrough and the game’s built-in fast forward option.)
2. There’s a couple more weird comments about the Filipino character like the player character thinking something along the lines of “I wonder how [character] would react to an eccentric Filipino barging into his office”
3. Aforementioned Filipino character is... mentally ill? It’s hard to define, for reasons that are full of spoilers, but he’s “delusional” and gets remarked upon as being “weird,” “eccentric,” etc. I don’t remember if the word cr*zy is specifically used, sorry.
4. There is a “ladies’ man” character who can be unnervingly presumptuous. Though if you shame him for treating you like a game, he thanks you and says he will carry the warning in his pigeon heart forever.
5. One character fatshames her ex, and the player character says something like “it’s easy to become fat and lazy over summer vacation.”
6. Adult character goes the “if you’re still interested after you grow up, we’ll see” route when the canonically teenage player character tries to pursue him romantically. Personally I uh hiGHLY DOUBT he meant it, I think it was a misguided attempt to let her down easy, but. yknow.
7. Other adult character says... very... creepy things to the player character if she pursues him. Like “don’t worry I’ll examine your insides very intimately”
8. Chronically ill character feels useless and says he is a burden on his (supportive) family. There is like... a lengthy Bit of this.
9. Suicide (as noble heroic sacrifice)
10. Uhmmmmm this game gets into some Extremely Dark Shit that i cannot even begin to warn for without spoiling the entire ending. I will say two words that hopefully get across the most, uh, extreme part of it without giving away specifics: Germ Warfare. Other than that there is a lot of Sad, a lot of What The Fuck, and a little bit of gore. I mean... technically Quite A Bit of gore, but most of it’s just in the text.
11. ETA: fhdjsk im fucking trans and i forgot about the “transvestite cafe” thing. you run into a male friend wearing a maid outfit and he tries to pull “it’s not what you think” by explaining he just works at a transvestite cafe, which is exactly what you think. nothing else really happens with it, or at least not if you choose the correct option to stay on his route, which is to take one of the flyers he’s handing out and promise to ask for him when you visit the cafe.
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badunguskablungus · 2 years
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TO ALL DEVIANTART FAT ARTISTS
Stop making thin characters fat. It ain't your oc. You can't mess with an IMPORTANT PART of the characters design. Sure, some characters have moments in game where they become overweight but, one, those moments are normally not important, 2, their natural figure and size is a key part of appearance. Appearance is VERY important with character design, as I've learned from making my own OCs.
You can do your...wierd, weightgain animations and arts, and to be honest, it's not that bad until you make them massive fucking walls of raw flesh
Like a decent amount is fine but don't make it so that if I hugged it I'd only cover 1/39595 of the body mass. Don't make 9 million pound flesh planets, that's just wierd and creepy. No, it's not sexy. If you suddenly became a massive, obese OBJECT of a living being, I doubt you'd enjoy it. Think more of, set it to a decent limit, don't force them to suffer as massive skin balls.
And another thing. If you'd like to do these things to characters, do it to your own. I see TOO MANY PEOPLE drawing UNDERAGE, UNLISENCED characters becoming disturbingly obese. And no, im not fatshaming, and I don't think I'm kinkshaming. I don't agree with any fetishes, but if you're going to do this shit, don't do it to other people's characters. Do it to your own. I know it'll be hard to make an oc, but roll with whatever crazy idea your wierd little brains think of. Just...don't make it too creepy. Hell, you can incorporate parts of your wierd shit into your own characters! Make an entire universe where the spontaneous....."events" take place! Just don't do it to unoriginal characters. That'll just make it creepy and kinda gross.
I rest my case. I'm sorry if I upset anyone, but it's kind of wierd. Imagine if I suddenly drew your lankiest oc as an obese planetoid of a being. Or drew your character consuming an innocent man whole? Or drew them turning into a sexy female version of who-knows-what? I bet you wouldn't enjoy it.
So make sure others don't have to see their characters be desecrated.
Alright? Cause I'm tired and it's 3:10.
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time-2-vent · 3 years
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So. This is a master post about my grandma. Some of this has already been talked about here but I posted this on my private fb and wanted to keep it here too.
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Okay.. so. This is gonna be a long and detailed one.
Ive never had a space where I could vent about my grandma to more than just people close to me without being blamed or her finding out. The only family I have on here is my mom and im hiding this post from her for various reasons. I understand if many of you can't read all the way through this because its gonna be a lot. I just want the people around me to have a better grasp on exactly why im so depressed.
Before I start im gonna add a trigger list because there is a LOT and im probably going to be very emotional typing this. A lot of it ive never spoken about publicly.
So for a list of TW:
Emotional, physical, sexual, and animal abuse, r*pe, p*dophelia, racism, su*cide, hospitals, ableism, be******ty mention, fatshaming, weight mention, f slur.
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Okay. Im going to start at when I moved in with her. She tricked my mother into signing over custody of me when I was 10. When I was 9 years old I was forced into a mental hospital after being heavily overdosed on medications meant for adults to the point I was "sitting upside down in my chairs unresponsive and talking about tranquilizers" which i have no memory of. The hospital was probably the worst experience in my entire life and I was almost murdered by one of the older kids. After getting out of there I moved in with my grandma.
Throughout my life shes said and done so many horrible things to me. She would always yell and scream about the smallest mistakes. She used to pick me up by my hair. She was just fucking horrible to me.
Around the age of 10-11 when I started going through puberty she would always make fun of the way my genitals looked. She would ask me to stretch my labia out and move it around. Specifically she would ask me to "show me your bat wings". It was fucking disgusting but as a child I thought it was just haha funny joke.
For a while I thought I just imagined that until my mom brought it up to me and how she CAUGHT HER saying that to me multiple times. So I had confirmation that I wasn't just imagining it. I once confronted her about it and she immediately started crying (ive only seen her cry 3 times in my entire life) and told me if I ever said that again she would tell everyone in my family that I was a "prostitute" and would make everyone in my family hate me, and that it was my mother who did that to me.
My mom lived with me and my grandma for a few years but eventually moved out on her own because she couldn't handle my grandmas abuse.
My grandma dated my moms r*pist, which was my moms uncle, and told my mom she never got r*ped, and said my mom only fucked him for "attention and cigarettes". My mom was 12 at the time.
My grandma told me at 15 that the "only reason you think you're trans is because you got diddled as a kid"
My grandma called me a whore when I started becoming sexually active despite her having her first child at 16.
She once told me I was "just like my father" who is a sex offender and abused me as a child. I was also forced to give my at-the-time step brothers head when I was 3-5 and was taught that it was okay.
My grandma has called me every possible name in the book. Anytime she does something wrong its automatically my fault. She told me she would believe that im trans when I showed her my dick (at 16).
Shes incredibly rude and racist, says she hates how she can't understand Asian people. She's said the n word. She's made so many "jokes" about how "aggressive" Black people are. When my cousin found out he had Black in him she said, and I quote, "I always knew he had a n***r ass" which fucking disgusted me. Shes scoffed at my mother for limping. She scoffs at anyone disabled. Always says "you wouldn't catch me looking like that in public." She would tell my mom she was faking her pain. And coincidentally of all 4 of her kids, one was born with physical deformities. she says thats not the reason why, but she gave her up for adoption. She yells at anyone standing in her way who isn't aware. She is incredibly rude when she speaks to people to the point its embarrassing.
When I hung myself earlier this year and a friend came to pick me up she was yelling at me like "Oh so you went and tattled on me didnt you? Did you say oh boo hoo shes so abusiveeee!!" As I had literally just laid passed out in the snow from hanging myself.
When she found out I hung myself she bitched about how I had her snow boots and how she would have had to climb up the hill to find my fucking body as if it were a chore. She asked me if I wanted to be cremated out of nowhere and when I said no she replied "good I didn't want to have to pick your piercings out of your dead body" when I told her she made me want to kill myself she laughed at me and said "well then you'll never survive" my first suicide attempt was at 12 years old. A few weeks ago I started carving at my throat in front of her because im so desperate for her to LISTEN to me for 5 FUCKING SECONDS. I have legitimately cried on my knees and begged her to treat me like a person time and time again. She laughs at me and turns it around to my issues. She guilt trips me and makes me think everything is my fault. She calls me disgusting for having 1 or 2 shirts on the floor. She told me to MY FACE she will never see me as trans. Misgenders me, misgenders my friends. I jokingly told her one of my cis friends was trans, and when she left she asked me "does he really have a penis?" ABOUT A WHOLE ASS CIS WOMAN. She told me she ran over and killed a dog with a broken leg to "put it out of its misery" she would always use glue traps and I told her not to tell me about it so she waits until were in public and says "yknow whenever I catch a live mouse on one of the traps I throw it into a plastic bag and then go do the litter box to suffocate it". Shes threatened to make me pay the hospital bill when I called 911 because she was unconscious. She says horrible things to me EVERY FUCKIJG DAY. She's always making everying my fault all the time and sits and smiles while I'm sobbing and pouring my heart out because im tired of the abuse. Im so fucking tired. It goes on and on and on every day of my life. I literally slit my throat in front of her and she only stopped being mean for about a week. Im so depressed and mentally ill and this is beating on me every moment of my fucking life.
In not done but im shaking and need to stop typing for now
Edit: some other notable things, when my grandpa disowned me and stopped speaking to me for over a year she told me it was probably because of how disgusting I was. And "nobody wants to be around that".
She will ask me specific random questions about specific friends and if I dont know the answer or I forgot, she goes on a tangent about how terrible of a friend I am.
When I was cutting her hair she kept telling me I was doing it wrong, so I did it her way and she hated it and told me she's glad I didn't pursue hair because im terrible at it.
When my cat was dying she originally refused to take him to the vet because he was "just gonna die anyways so I might as well let him", then gave up her cat to the vet because she was peeing but didn't wanna take responsibility for that so she lied to them and said she showed up at her door and didn't tell them her age or even her name and that was so fucking cruel.
When she starts laughing at me sometimes she'll talk to me in a whiny "baby voice" and be like awwww, waaa im so abusedddd *mocks me crying*.
And she always talks in a tone that sounds pissed off and seems confused when I feel like I'm being scolded.
She gets in my face and puts her finger in my face and backs me into corners sometimes and then when I smack her hand out of my face she says she'll put me in jail for abuse.
Oh yea and simetimes when she gets mad at me she'll be like "ok GIRL" in the middle of me talking. Like its annoying and uncalled for.
I cant believe I forgot this holy shit. Years ago (was a minor here as well) I was attacked by my neighbors dog and it knocked me down and when I got home my grandma was accusing me of be******ty and said she was "watching it fuck me" and I was so fucking disgusted and hurt.. I try to block that from my memory because it was my third dog attack and I was traumatized.
She also regularly calls her brother a F@ggot. He is the only lgbt family member (he's gay) that i have.
She regularly fatshames people while only a few feet from them. And will whisper to me about how disgusting they look.
She asks for all of my friends deadnames and gets mad when I dont answer.
"I can't be abusive because I give you a home. I could have let social services take you."
"I cant be racist because my ex husband is Black"
"You must be living in a fantasy world where you make up shit that ive done."
"Id be depressed if I stayed in bed all day too."
"I need to learn to have lower expectations for you."
"I'm starting to resent you. So ill be taking 200$ a month for rent." (She has stopped this thankfully)(edit #2, she started taking it again im gonna be here forever lmao)
When I was underweight she would say things like "you look like an aids patient." And "Are you trying to look like your mother?"
"You're a hoarder"
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