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#i’ve seen like a little bit of the guy from skamit and i think he should be bisexual too
comradegendry · 3 years
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skam remakes i am asking for a canon bisexual yousef. actually. i am demanding it. i demand a canon bisexual yousef.
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norgestan · 4 years
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SPOILERS!!!!! // i actually despise the route they've taken, i really do. if they really wanted dani and amira, and if they were endgame, i actually wouldn't have minded - i would've sighed a little bit sure, but i'd be ok.... but what they're doing with kassim... i'm just ... wow. disappointed and frustrated is a huge understatement. if they wanted representation it would've been great, but making that representation someone who could've been a really amazing love interest for amira? smfh.
uhhh i tried to put a “read more” but it’s not working???
yeah like i really like how the show has handled the first steps on the damira relationship, where there’s a lot of communication and you can see that they’re both negotiating. my biggest complaint is still that dani is a white man taking the spot on what originally was the place of a muslim man of color. and in that sense, i won’t give eskam a pass. while skamit pretended that they “ethnic-looking” white non-muslim female actress was a hijabi teenager of color, and that’s something i don’t think eskam would do, eskam is the second remake that has taken away one of the spots of that couple with two people of color, so they go to a white actor/actress.
but i agree with you: the worst this has got to be the kasim subplot. i DESPITE it with all my being for the following reasons:
perpetuates the notion that all muslim people are homophobic, something that they show has fought before in cris’ season and in the video lucas filmed with amira.
actually, let me go back to that video. because i feel like the eskam writers didn’t look at that video when they were writing this bullshit. both amira and lucas make points about how homophobia is not inherent to islam, that one can be gay and muslim because it depends on how people interpret their religion and how they feel their faith, etc etc. but then kasim spews out the same bullshit amira was fighting in the first place: that lucas, who lives in a christian environment, will have the support of his friends and people around him, but because kasim is muslim he’s deeply scared and doesn’t want to come out. it’s not because lucas is white while kasim is a brown man, it’s not because kasim has had particular experiences with his sexuality outside his religion. no. it’s because lucas is christian and kasim is muslim. and of course christian people are waaay more open minded than muslim people, right? that’s how LITTLE NUANCE was put in the whole thing. the entire story is written like any youtube comment under a clip of las labass, saying that they will punch cris for being bisexual and other islamophobic bullshit.
this kinda shits on the entire religious subplot of og s3. in og, isak’s mother insistence with showering his son with the word of God(tm) was what held him back from coming out to her and part of his internalized homophobia. the season also made points how what isak believed in, aka the evolution, could also lead into homophobic rationalizations of the presence of gay people in the story of humanity, while sana made sure to tell isak (and the audience) that hatred came from fear, not from religion. isak suffered because he was in a white and christian environment, where people were either disgusted by him (his parents at first), completely okay with outing him because “it’s 2016, get out of the closet” (emma, vilde at some extent, bunch of other people who spread the rumors in school), casually calling him slurs (magnus), fetishizing him and even (the dance girls, the skam fandom), and then people who were supportive of him (admittedly, not all of these things were called out in the show, but people got the point with the first two groups). the only muslim character in the show had absolutely no problem with isak being gay, and supported isak and even’s relationship: sana even got mad when she thought the balloon squad hit isak bc he was gay, when they actually hit him because he fought them first out of jealousy - and back then it was the white girls who insulted sana in the bathroom and who theorized that the balloon squad were homophobic. so, like, absolutely all of that is gone here. and in the last dani/amira clip, dani says how his parents aren’t actually “good christians” (hmmm the christian cult survivor in me absolutely loathes that term) because they’re intolerant and homophobic, but the fact that it’s kasim, the muslim gay guy, who says he’s in a bad environment, means that the show wants us to believe and empathize with him, right? UGH. very progressive of you eskam. i’ve never seen this before.
let me expand real quick on that last point. so far it’s only been amira, a straight muslim girl, who has told us that homophobia is not inherent in muslim spaces. HOWEVER, we have an actual muslim gay character say to out faces that he feels oppressed and that his circles will never understand him the way lucas’ christian circles understand and accept him. and because he’s the gay muslim guy, we’re supposed to believe he’s right over amira, who has never experienced being lgbtq+ and muslim. WOW. I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT.
yet again other western stereotype of a gay guy nonchalantly asking amira to play as his beard. WOW. WOWOWOWOW. WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK. but what i hate the most about this is that amira is clearly SO disgusted by this, the narrative wants us to be on her side and demonize the closeted muslim guy of color for this. all while we were supposed to take dani’s al qaeda joke as a funny thing that amira adds to the list of why dani is the funniest guy she knows and why she likes him. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
moreover, i hate this entire conversation: because amira has had two people come out to her. cris and kasim. and when cris, white christian cris, told her she liked a girl, amira was immediately okay with all of that. but when kasim tells amira that he likes a dude, amira’s reaction it’s just SO baffling: she accuses him of FOOLING and LYING to his family and the people around him. but she never once questioned why cris hadn’t told anybody this yet, much less call her a liar for not coming out to everybody. what the fuck is this!!!!!!! not only this is yet another way that the show demonizes kasim, but it’s purposefully writing amira ooc to do so. wow. i absolutely hate it. i don’t think i have said that yet?
and to close this huuuuge rant off lmao, i just really dislike that everything about kasim’s sexuality is misery porn: begging for the white guy he likes (loves?) to understand him and be with him, the pressure of being the only man on his family, the pressure of his sister trying to find him a good muslim girlfriend, how oh so homophobic muslim people around him are... even if at the end the show ends up saying (again) that coming out as a muslim is Not That Bad, all of this is just, immediately gonna make white/non-muslim people look at this and think: “yep yep yep, muslim people are sooooo intolerant, not like Me, raised in a good Christian environment, where we’re Open Minded not like those arabs”. and i already hate all of that, no matter what the resolution is. this is SO catering of western audiences only. terrible writing choice and i won’t let eskam get out of this one. even if they found a way to say the right stuff at the end, what they’ve done for now it’s enough for me to step away from the remake. but i’ll be here to criticize it when the entire episode is out, you bet.
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nicolinocolino · 4 years
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s4 thoughts
Okay so I’ve only watched the season once through and I’m sure I missed some stuff, but here’s my reaction for anyone who cares haha.
I’m going to start with Sana, obviously. Brilliant. Show stopping. Memorable. I never felt like the season was about anyone else, even with the side plots. I think this has a lot to do with the friendships, which skamit does really well. But this season was truly about her. And Bea did fantastic. 
I think the switch to make the Malik drama about Eva worked much better, as Eva is someone who’s kind of... swung from one guy to another and back. It just makes sense. I also loved how they toned down the drama and got rid of the cyber bullying all together. 
Sana’s voicemail on the roof explained it all... and it was so heartbreaking. Honestly, I could relate. I think that’s another big testament to the season — she’s relatable because she’s, you know, a person with feelings and expectations who doesn’t always make the right choices. I never felt like I wasn’t allowed to relate to her just because we come from different backgrounds. And isn’t that the point? Isn’t that the point of it all — to humanize her and not put her on a pedestal or be afraid of her? She hurt her friends who hurt her, and she let it all out. Sometimes we need that honesty to become closer to one another, and, in turn, understand each other better.
My favorite clip was the one of her and Malik talking about religion. The music? Her metaphor to the moon? God, she shone in this clip. I’m not a religious person, but I could feel the passion in her. I think it’s healthy to be challenged sometimes, too. I don’t think Malik saying that you can be a good person without religion is something I will forget.
Overall, her story was so good that I don’t really mind the other parts I was disappointed in. It was a fantastic final season. The music and editing and quality was incredible. She was the true star.
Okay, Marti and Nico. Because you know I love them a lot. And I’m sorry if I have more to say about them than Sana. I know it’s her season. But obviously Marti and Nico are my favorite and ALSO there’s just..... a lot to process regarding what we did get from them. I’m not the kind of person who can look at canon and be like, “I don’t like that so I’m going to forget it!” — no. I see it happen and my brain goes “make it make sense.” Which is what I’ve been trying to do because I really don’t want these two ruined for me. So:
First of all, I’m so, so thrilled that Nico’s “half a thing” long ago with Luai was the real deal. It had nothing to do with his mental illness and added depth to his back story that comes from a place of love and understanding. I cannot even imagine the guilt he must have felt at Virgilio after watching Luai get sent away. It must have been difficult to talk about, so keeping it from Marti (for so long!) is something I can kind of understand.
Which brings me to Marti’s reaction. I have mixed feelings. I definitely do understand Marti, in a way. When you piece together what he knew from Maddalena, that look between them he witnessed, Nico’s obvious lies... yeah. Maybe I’d go a bit out of my mind, too. Essentially, I can see this starting in ep 2 and building to ep7. That’s FIVE WEEKS of hardship on their relationship. FIVE WEEKS of Nico hiding the truth and Marti going insane pestering him. FIVE WEEKS of patience before Marti finally snapped. My big thing is I think Marti has gobs and gobs of patience. Without that real time format, it looks like he has none. But really? It was almost two whole months of... guessing and asking and getting nothing. Of course he was paranoid! Of course he was jealous! His patience, which I believe he had, wore thin. While I think some of what Marti did was out of character, some of it I can see. He gets angry, we’ve seen that. He withdraws, we’ve seen that too. Not saying this is the healthiest thing ever, but if you REALLY loved someone... you probably would be at least a little jealous. We villainize the feeling of jealousy so much — and it’s true that it’s not healthy in this amount — but it happens. And it happened to Marti. My big hangup is that I don’t really think that’s very in character for him, but in a way... I can see it. I think we can argue that what he did to Gio and Eva in season 1 was the result of some jealousy. Love makes you do all kinds of crazy things and feel all kinds of crazy ways. I half think that Marti “left” as a sort of final straw/ultimatum. Like, ‘ah, if I leave him maybe then he will tell me, since there is nothing left to lose.’ But then Nico didn’t, so he was left with that choice. I don’t think he really meant it, at least not for the long haul. If Nico were to text him the next day and say ‘yeah, you’re right, this is for the best’ Marti would be a giant mess. I can clearly see this was a situation of “well, I think he’s going to leave me for Luai, so maybe if I leave him first I can control the pain.” We literally see him reverting back to his old self in eps 7 and 8. He closes off. He doesn’t want to listen to his friends. At Silvia’s birthday, he was honestly being so loud and jokey and obnoxious. I truly think that was a mask. His “I have nothing to say to him” (referring to Nico) REALLY really got to me. That was not in character. But in hindsight, as I try to make sense of it, I think he said it because he wanted his friends to disagree with him. It’s more of a “I have nothing more to add” because, well, he tried. He tried for five weeks to get Nico to tell him the truth. He was left with his embarrassing mistake of leaving Nico, which he knew was wrong, and is embarrassed even more because everyone else knows it was wrong too. Somehow he has to crawl out of the hole that is his own stubbornness and pride. And in this super public space, he wanted everyone to think he was fine. But we know he’s not. We know he had a cliche low point eating ice cream on the floor. We know he’s hurting. In his mind, Nico possibly cheated and lied and might leave him and that hurts him. Because he loves him.
Which brings me to my next point. Marti you dumbass if you opened your eyes you could SEE how much Nico loves you. Everything from wanting to get coffee in the morning with him, wanting to pick him up from school, wanting to dance with him, wanting to help throw him a nice birthday, just the way Nico LOOKS at him... boy he LOVES you. And I bet that hurt Nico a lot to think Marti didn’t feel any of that. Nico shows his love, it pours out of him.
But also: Nico, my boy, why take so long to tell Marti the truth. If there’s nothing to hide, why does it matter that you had half a thing with some guy two years ago? I think what happened was that they didn’t have proper closure. Luai was essentially ripped away from Nico, horribly, in the middle of their half a thing. Did Nico even know that he was okay? And... the guilt? Oh my. I can only imagine Nico wanted to reconnect with him just to get that closure, and, in the process, because he never told Marti, it looked a lot like maybe something else was going on. Not only the night of the fight, but maybe after that there were some texts or phone calls, too. And then how do you tell your boyfriend that you want closure with your ex? How do you explain what you had, which never had a proper ending and, who knows, maybe would have grown or still have been going on if things were better and Luai never left? I think Marti could piece that together, too. He knows Nico learned the Koran for Luai. He remembers the talk in Nel Mio Letto. He knows how deeply Nico can feel. And, he knows that Nico’s feelings are real. Or, were real. And maybe had the possibility of becoming real again now that Luai was around again. 
The excuse that Nico didn’t tell Marti because Luai was engaged and wanted to keep it on the down-low doesn’t fly with me. Maybe it’s partly true, but I also think what I stated above was more of the cause. Nico didn’t know how to explain to Marti without sounding suspicious but needed closure. He tried to do both at the same time and failed. Because, duh. You have to be honest and hiding isn’t right and doesn’t work. I think it would hurt Marti to know Nico doesn’t trust him enough with that secret. So, in sum, they both need to trust each other more.
I was really excited for Nico’s clip and was left feeling kind of empty afterwards. I don’t like how Marti basically interrogated him. I think that if Marti wants that level of honesty with Nico, that’s valid. But there’s a fine line between that and pestering someone about phone calls. Which is what makes me think the thing with Luai was more than just the night of the fight. I think Nico was hiding a little more than a past. He was hiding his reconnecting to get closure. I mean, in the end, it’s a nice clip. The beach is beautiful and their kiss was cute and smiley. And that hug is god tier. I liked how we saw Nico’s meds in a short and respectful way even if just to give the audience some peace of mind. Maybe Marti only used his birthday as an excuse to be so nosy. I do think he was hurt by the lies — and Marti knows that lies can ruin things, he’s seen it happen — so he’s just on guard. I mean, I don’t think Nico’s lie was HUGE... it’s just the fact that it went on for so long even after Marti tried to tell Nico he wanted the full truth. So, even if I didn’t love the clip and am disappointed a bit in it, in the end it really just shows that they can and will work through everything.
So, like, did I want all of that drama? No. Is it realistic? I think so. I romanticize these two so much so it brought me down to earth a bit. Did I already KNOW they would be able to work through hard times? Well, yeah. I didn’t need to see it but in the end I’m glad I did. I truly believe they will face future hard times with the knowledge, now, that they need to do better. And honestly? I think Marti is 18 now and Nico is like 20? 21? And to be tested with something like this and work through it the way they did so young is a lot. Also, they’ve been together for over a year now. It takes about a year for that honeymoon phase to wear off. So in reality they are working through that right now too. Love is something they have to dedicate more time and effort to, and they did! They did do that and it’s nice to see that they’re willing to nurture this very very special thing they have instead of letting it fall away. And they made it out on the other side with, I think, more love and understanding for each other. I certainly love and understand them better now, too.
I might add on with more thoughts later, but this is what I have for now. Most of it is about Marti and Nico but, ya know. I love them dearly. Also, Sana’s stuff was just so good there’s really not much for me to work through with it. If you read this all, you’re a trooper lol
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skamamoroma · 5 years
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Ok, this is gong to be long but hey if you can’t ramble endlessly on your own blog about something as beautiful as this clip then what can you do?
I know this clip had so many similarities to the og, but, to me, it felt so so different and the characters separately and together are so different. It also felt a little MORE as the stakes have been a bit higher. I don’t know, this was a bit of an emotional mess moment for me and hit me pretty hard in the best way. Like being smacked in the face with emotional manipulation...!
First off, it’s so sad that Marti felt he had to wait for Elia to leave before he spoke to Gio. Dr Spera’s little moment of pure ingenious insanity clearly did get through because you can see Marti is determined and had a plan.
And this is where Marti floors me because he’s BRAVE. We’ve seen it so many times and we’ve all said it but he is so damn brave. When he decides something, he goes for it. He’s my hero.
The thing that got me about his initial chat with Gio was how quiet Marti was, how softly spoken he was and how tentative. You can tell he doesn’t feel 100% certain yet that they’re ok and Gio is still being his straight up self but my favourite little moment is when Marti asks if he wants to play Fifa at his house and Gio has that moment of silence... you can tell Marti’s nervous but then Gio asks what their score was and Marti’s face LIGHTS UP. You can tell he’s so relieved that Gio has mentioned their THING together, their past, the normal stuff they did before everything changed. He’s so happy that they slip immediately back into just being FRIENDS, teasing each other and Marti has his sarcastic “oh really?” face on and you just know they’re going to be fine by the way Gio puts his arm around him. Even that moment is so perfectly done to show their relationship. Gio never lets Marti off the hook. He always challenges him and pushes him a little but then reminds him ALWAYS of why they’re friends and that he loves Marti. You really feel how long they’ve been friends.
The fact that they are playing Fifa and completely distracted was so perfect to me. Marti chose to do it this way and it speaks volumes because it’s just him and his best friend, they’re doing things they always used to, it’s comfortable and there’s that distraction to fall back on. I’d do it that way. I’d throw it out there in the middle of something mundane too so it was so lovely to see how Marti chose to open up. Have I mentioned I love him?!
The fact we get smiley, silly Marti back for a moment kills me because it’s like whiplash. It’s that reminder that real Marti has been hidden for so long. So so so sad.
I love that they don’t look at each other the entire time. Marti clearly feels ok talking like this, it’s safer and easier and the half distraction of the game clearly helps him speak. It’s so sweet and human and I felt like he chose his moment so perfectly. I’d do exactly the same.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE when Gio says “Marti I don’t know shit about what you’re thinking lately” and Marti SMILES. That was SO ITALIAN to me. That whole blunt straight up response was so amazing. It made ME smile never mind Marti!
Just a tiny note that I’m pretty happy Marti’s piercing was so obvious today. It’s so NICE and normally his hair covers it but it was on full show and, I don’t know, it makes Marti so much more brilliant to me. He’s a proper little hipster, really.
Then I got choked up the second Marti couldn’t quite get his words out. He was still so confident, so brave but couldn’t quite say it and his nervous swallow got to me so much and the fact his voice was much quieter when he said it wasn’t a girl. I think from then on I was a bit of a wreck.
The fact they hadn’t looked each other the whole time until this moment was so powerful because that was the second Marti started to worry. The fact that Gio was so still, so silent and had stopped playing. I felt every bloody heartbeat and Marti’s face broke my heart because for a split second he panicked and worried he’d done the wrong thing.
But then the fact that Gio looks at Marti for the first time with these big eyes and then makes a joke about being repulsive... the fact he can’t stop smiling at Marti... it’s one of the most gorgeous little moments I’ve ever seen. Gio’s eyes are so earnest and teary and honoured and grateful. You can see how much he loves Marti in that moment and it’s so so so so lovely, I can’t even say.
Then the fact that Gio’s brain is whirring and running over everything and doesn’t ask but TELLS Marti he knows who it is... Gio knew. I think on some level, he KNEW something was up with Nico and you can see in his face how unbelievably happy he is that Marti confided in him. Every time Marti smiles, Gio smiles. HOW COMPLETELY AMAZING IS THAT?!
I adore Marti’s little nod. It’s the first time he gets to talk about Nico and admit it and make it real to someone else. It’s so sweet.
THEN ONE OF MY FAVOURITE MOMENTS. Gio’s slow “ah I see” nod is the BEST and the fact he immediately tells Marti he thinks Nico is handsome. MY GOD. I adore Giovanni Gaurau. What a legend. He immediately makes it ok. He legitimises Marti’s talking about this boy. It’s like he’s telling Marti that it’s ok to be normal about it, to chat about how cute a guy is, Gio is fully down with that! AH. My heart was so full.
I love that Marti had a chance to just TALK and explain and was able, for the FIRST TIME, to tell someone about how he’s feeling and about how confused he is about Nico. The fact that SkamIt chose to have Marti explain to Gio about the kiss makes so much sense because now Gio might understand a little more about why Marti reacted so badly that night. You can see Gio is listening and is IMMEDIATELY on Marti’s side because OF COURSE HE IS.
It sucks because we know why Nico did what he did and we know he’s not an ass, but I like that Marti got to say what he felt and what was on his mind and Gio backed him up, no question. Marti just looks SAD when he talks about not understanding why Nico is doing what he’s doing. You can see how much it hurt him and if that’s not the most heartbreaking thing?! We KNOW Nico is completely crazy about Marti and IF ONLY MARTI KNEW WHY IT ALL HAPPENED.
I LOVE that all of a sudden they just stop talking about this and it’s like they were just chatting about the weather because Luchino messages. It’s all so genuinely chilled out, Gio barely flinched, they had a chat about how Marti feels and then it’s only ripping into Luchino for a bit. I LOVE GIO. He made it all so easy.
Then we have the note. OH THAT NOTE. I’ve made other posts about it but the fact that Nico took the time to sit and make that and make sure Marti received it makes me want to cry. Niccolò Fares is the biggest sweetheart with the most beautiful romantic heart. I’ve said it before but Wednesday was a game changer. His eyes said everything for him. I felt every bit of his longing and regret and happiness at seeing Marti, his sadness at the situation and seeing Marti sad... all of it was there on his face and I think it’s pretty likely that he decided there and then that he can’t do what he’s been trying to do. HE CAN’T STAY AWAY. He can’t try to forget his feelings and put them aside and try to just be friends with Marti, he can’t ignore his heart and can’t keep a lid on it.
That’s heartbreaking in itself because he did all of this to protect himself and Marti. Marti’s words HURT and he took them to heart but the thing about Nico is, what I felt when they Metin the bathroom and Marti said those things... Nico’s heart broke but for a second he forgot about it. He didn’t do what Even did and treat it so clearly as a goodbye. I feel like Even was more adept at shutting stuff down because he’d had to be. I don’t think Nico can. He didn’t kiss Marti goodbye and it’s like he instantly buried Marti’s words because he didn’t want to lose anything they had, didn’t want to allow his mental health to rule his life. But then I think the second he had time to mull things over, the worry and doubt set in and only with that distance was he able to tell Marti he needed space. I don’t think he’s capable of doing that to Marti’s face. His eyes on Wednesday screamed that he can’t stay away, that he was just so so happy to see Marti and be near him and you could FEEL how much he wanted to be near him.
That bathroom scene makes so much more sense to me because Nico’s note wasn’t “we can’t be together, I’m going to pretend that in some universe we can”, it was “please don’t give up on me, I’m trying, I want you to have hope and to give me a chance when I work things out”. IT WAS SO HOPEFUL. The fact that Nico linked it to their chats... reminding Marti that their time together meant something important to him, that he doesn’t want Marti to think he’s alone in this, that Nico hasn’t forgotten about them, that he MEANT what he said and did in that pool and in his bed... that note was EVERYTHING.
The fact that Marti flat out giggled at it was the cutest god damn thing. He smiled to himself, shook his head like “oh my god, this boy” and was so unbelievably and visibly thrilled. His heart was practically singing if his face was anything to go by, he was lit up from the inside and the GOD DAMN MUSIC. Whoever chose that piece of music is my hero. It’s so pretty and soft but then has this crescendo to it and when Marti sits down, smiling and giddy and practically GLOWING and Gio tells him that Nico has to break up with his girlfriend...
Well I was a mess. Marti’s smile is practically blinding. I know we go on and on about how beautiful Marti’s smile is but it’s the truth and to see it back and so genuine and huge was EVERYTHING. Gio just grinning at him and reaching out to squish Marti’s shoulders and give him actual affection was so flipping beautiful.
Marti’s smile to himself at the end what did me in though. He can’t stop smiling. He’s choked up, relieved and kind of giddy because he didn’t get it all wrong about Nico, his best friend is by his side and totally brilliant and nothing has changed.
The whole thing was just the two of them, it was so simple but the acting and the chemistry these two have together is completely precious and not something that comes along every day. You BELIEVE in their friendship and not only that but in how CLOSE it is.
So I’ve written a god damned essay, but I don’t care because this clip is so meaningful and important and played to perfection and Nico is hopefully out there perhaps a tiny bit more hopeful that he at least made Marti smile 😀
Hopeful is what people need and if this clip is anything, it’s hopeful. I wish I was as brave as Marti but for a moment you are reminded that there is good and sweet and lovely in the world.
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shame-in-italian · 6 years
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What are your ranks for the characters in each remake like the characters you felt adapted each character best and made it their own ,the characters are william, noora , vilde, eva, sana, jonas, isak, male chris, female chris
Oooh, this is such a difficult question! I’ll try and not go into too much detail, I could easily write an essay haha. If you want to ask me anything off the back of this go ahead :)
William - Edoardo (SkamIt), Charles (SkamFr), Daniel (Skam Austin), Alexander (Druck) Edoardo takes this easily, they’ve made real changes to the character and for once there’s potential for more than a ‘dark and brooding asshole’ character. I will admit though, I liked the chemistry between Charles & Manon though.
Noora - Mia (Druck), Grace (Skam Austin), Manon (SkamFr)/Eleonora (SkamIt) So I’ve put Manon and Eleonora together, I couldn’t say one was worse than the other. I’ve not been blown away by the Nooras. Manon was great in s2 though, I loved that they actually had her doing things rather than preaching them. Mia has had stand out moments and I’ve felt while she’s very different to the Noora we know, she has the same principles. She’s also canon bi and well I’m all about that rep.
Vilde - Daphne (SkamFr), Kelsey (Skam Austin), Silvia (SkamIt), Kiki (Druck)Daphne has had me cracking up so much. She’s got the right amount of naivety and vulnerability but has these surprise moments where she’s actually quite sure of herself. Kelsey also made me laugh, that little smirk face killed me. I also just wanted to hug her when she started crying. I found Silvia and Kiki less naive and actually just too brutal at times.
Eva - Eva (SkamIt)/Megan (Skam Austin), Hanna (Druck), Emma (SkamFr)Both Eva and Megan tugged at my heartstrings and tbh Hanna was a very close second. I found Emma less memorable, she got better scenes in s2 but I feel like because SkamFr has been so copy and paste there’s been less room for character development.
Sana - Zoya (Skam Austin), Amira (Druck), Imane (SkamFr), Sana (SkamIt)Zoya is an absolute queen. She kills it in the fight scene and I love how deadpan she is with some lines. Amira was a super interesting interpretation too, less brutal than the Sana we know, we’ve seen her soft side a bit more which I like.
Jonas - Jonas (Druck), Giovanni (SkamIt), Marlon (Skam Austin), Yann (SkamFr)Druck was the one remake where I wanted Jonas and Hanna to stay together and that was more down to Jonas I think. He shows a much bigger span of emotion than I feel we saw in the original. I’ve always wanted a Jonas season and Druck is where I hope we might get it. Giovanni was incredibly realistic, he reminded me more of my high school friends.
Isak - Shay (Skam Austin), Martino (SkamIt), Matteo (Druck) Lucas (SkamFr)Ah, can I just put them all together please? This was super difficult and I honestly commend the castings by every remake, they picked reeeeally well. Isak is a sneaky one in season 1, I think it was less expected from Shay despite knowing it would happen (if that makes sense). Martino got a rounded out personality which made the betrayal more heart breaking too, but overall I’m excited for every remakes’ Isak season.
P-Chris - Fede (SkamIt), Samuel (Druck), Jo (Skam Austin), Alexandre (SkamFr) I’ve never been a huge P-Chris fan tbh but I did think Fede was fun, he reminded me of guys I went to school with tbh. Samuel felt a lot more slick, like if I was Hanna I would definitely be inticed.
Chris - Josefina (Skam Austin), Sam (Druck)/Alexia (SkamFr), Federica (SkamIt)Josefina is possibly one of my favourite characters ever. She steals so many scenes and is the well deserved development Chris never got. Sam and Alexia were well rounded out thankfully, the way they handled Alexia’s sexuality was perfect too. Federica felt bland in comparison.
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Another bunch of asks that I didn’t want to leave unanswered! Note: tread lightly if you love the remakes or William or P Chris, opinions in asks not necessarily my own.
man, I can already see the fourth of july instead of may seventeenth plot...oh god! Skam Austin gets worse everytime I think about it too hard!
I think it’ll be prom or homecoming or something that’s a thing?
I had my problems with skamit but kept watching until ep 4. When italian vilde was going upstairs to hook up with you know who she actually stopped and asked italian chris if she was doing the right thing bc she was not sure and she was like wtf are you kidding me, just go with him. I just, idk, no best friend would tell you to follow some guy just like that. It might sounds stupid but that scene really made me feel so damn bad. I am afraid this remake might be a bit too much for me.
Mmm, yeah, I didn’t keep up with that one past the first ep so I don’t know. I’m glad the Italians seem to enjoy it but I could understand why they’re like “oh god, how to we explain this to non-Italians” at least once an episode. 
I think the positive thing about it being on Facebook watch is that it is the only free streaming platform it could have been on, meaning it has the potential to reach more people. I mean okay you need a fb account but that’s better than paying for Netflix or Hulu every month. Plus as of now it isn’t geoblocked. And Facebook owns Instagram so the social media can be filtered better than it would have on any other network. I just see how in terms of what US networks have to offer why FB was best
Yeah, I think it’s a fitting choice? I’m not sure how much being on a certain platform gives you a greater reach, I think some people were thinking more people might stumble onto it elsewhere.
I’m from jersey too! Man north and south jersey are like two different states. Imagine Skam Jersey City or something - never on time to anything because NJ transit sucks, the multiple malls within in a 20 minute radius is the hangout on weekdays and you go into the city or Hoboken on weekends for no reason with no money to spend. Your neighbors pretty much make your block more diverse than the UN. Real non chain pizza and Chinese take out are eaten religiously.
Jersey has a little bit of everything?? Because I was from a small-town, little suburb that was all tree-lined and beautiful. But that town was also surrounded by highways and stripmalls if you went ten-fifteen minutes in several directions?
i used to be meh about the remakes but the longer they go on the more i hate them. the european ones feel like a bunch of bad cosplayers decided to remake skam. I HATE THEM
I have this thing where it’s kind of fun to compare them at first but then the novelty wears off and I’m more “why... no...”. I generally hate remakes though so I’ve actually felt like I’ve grown as a person to be this accepting!
Lol Isak and Even were barely in s4 and when they were the storyline was either dropped halfway trough or Isak was used to further Sana's story, develop their best friends story they build in s3 or to use Isak as preacher to justify muddy waters. Just like Sana and Noora's ONLY SOLO scene did, to "call out Noora's hypocricity" but it was more to excuse and get a wise, popular character to make William look better (lol). Yet Vilde and Chris were close and had build up with Sana, not Noora...
My two least favorite scenes in Skam...
If the Uk is the biggest it's not what Scandinavia is getting. 90% is American based, it's always been like that and that's why we have so much American integrated in out cultures and also why we are also very good at English because while we study it early on we are constantly surrounded by English and American film and television.
Maybe part of that stat is the UK/USA co-productions? Like a British production company doing Skam Austin like this. 
US Willhelm looks like the most genetic white football player douschebag and he looks exactly like that scumbag from 13 reasons why. I wonder why the remakes never changes the ethnicity for Willhelm when he's supposed to be the dream goal?
Yeahhhhhhhh, it does say something that they’ve changed P Chris to a minority twice while the most popular guy is always remarkably the same.
I mean I get that Julie is doing skam Austin so it’s being critiqued more BUT there are so many other remakes going on to watch instead. So many countries have the opportunity to make skam and I’m sorry but so far they all either did an exact copy and/or are not keeping up with the point of daily updates in real time.People hate on Julie but the other creators so far have done little to adapt it correctly. Clearly from Skam Austin we see that the characters do not have to be exact copies 🤷🏻‍♀️
Well, I don’t think people were very accepting of the other remakes either? People have been pretty harsh on all of them. It’s just a different kind of harsh with Skam Austin because it’s tied up with people’s existing feelings about Julie Andem and s4 and the end of Skam and etc.
"The argument is racist" omg stop throwing that word around it actually has an important meaning and using it for something inappropriate is just defeating its purpose. Also idk if it's just because that anon is American, but not every argument needs to have an underlying note of racism in it and it's frustrating when people just use the "you're racist" card just to look better in a discussion, it just destroyes the job we put into fighting against racism when it actually matters.
Yeah, that happens a lot. There’s a thoughtful way to consider race in what we’re talking about but that’s not it.
I think skam austin is going to be another repeat of the same plot , like I think if they wanted to do something new, they would change the name at least but calling it skam austin immediately connects it to og skam and I think the other remakes have shown us just have different they can go with the plots...
I don’t know, I’ve really gone back-and-forth about how close it’s going to be? I think we have to wait and get some footage at least.
imagine how it was when she broke the news to the actors? the deal was done during s3, they must have at least thought of her going to the states, then finding out s4 is the last season.
I wonder if they did find out in stages or all at once. Was Skam ever possibly going to continue? Without Julie, maybe? I’d kind of assume she told them both at once.
I remember reading a while ago when a p Chris fan was going ***** over Jonas and that Eva didn't give Chris a chance because he's so much more than a fuckboy. They said they had seen vines of pchris and Eva and I though of course it would be vines rofl so imagine a bunch of people falling for this hot badboy over vines expecting this great badass character and then he's barely in the show? I think it's 90% Herman projection onto Chris and Eva. They love him because he's apparently hot.
Yeah, with P Chris I’m like “he’s barely there????”. At least William is a character!
it's weird that all the remakes chose to start in the middle of the school year. even weirder that skam france has chosen to put out 2 seasons in the space of about 4 months... I feel like they're doing that to dominate the skam remakes, you know to be the most predominant remake. Seems fishy to me. I don't trust them. Don't even get me started on these fake leaks of the episode for publicity!!!!! We're not falling for it! Who else could it be except THEIR OWN TEAM!!! yeesh lol sorry ANYWAY
Didn’t episodes leak twice or something? I don’t know, I’m not following it very closely. I did find the whole “just wait, things will change more after episode three!” thing annoying though.
"Is it true that skam Italian uses a white actress to play a muslim character? If so it is so wrong!!" Anon,let me just remind you that what is wrong about it is the fact that she's a non muslim girl but she wears a hijaab and plays a muslim (if we get s4..I can't imagine all the scenes with "Sana" praying, knowing she's not muslim). Please, remember that there are white muslim people and it'd be more okay for a white girl to play this character IF the actress was muslim herself I guess.
Yeah, I think you have to be careful not to conflate that, but also it is a shame that they’d change a POC character into a white character? Just because someone can be white and a Muslim doesn’t mean that’s actually a good representation of the Muslim minority there? 
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