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yusuke-of-valla · 5 years

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Actually, for those plot holes, plenty of them... aren't holes. I'm submitting this instead of sending asks bc that'd be a lot of asks.

1. when did it say there's no reception? Sae gets a call right outside the interrogation room. It is weird for there to be reception so far underground but apparently there is. It is a police station, makes sense they'd want their phones to work everywhere in the building.

2. It only requires audio the first time you go there. You're able to bookmark a location like a normal navigating app, and then you just have to click the bookmark to go there. Futaba SPECIFICALLY said this was how it was done; she simply made the app think the bookmark was activated.

3. when they first go into Sae's palace, they aren't in their uniforms. They're not perceived as threats unless they're in the CASINO specifically.

I got nothing for the next bunch. 6 was probably Sae and Futaba pulling strings? For 9 she must've known of how to avoid people and cameras, I guess. I doubt there were a lot of people around, and actually Futaba could probably just loop the cameras since she can do basically anything. Government servers? Psh, child's play.

10. Ryuji's the only one who was like "haha gotem" that we saw, and he's Ryuji. He simply believed WHOLE-HEARTEDLY that it worked. He was being OPTIMISTIC bc he had faith in everyone.

11. They didn't go to the REAL interrogation room, they checked out the one in Sae's palace to make sure it looked decently real enough. Obviously they couldn't be sure though, but still.

12. Got nothing but I don't remember when that was mentioned, so.

13. They DID dissolve, it was just delayed. Is it weird it was delayed? Sure. But they did dissolve after Akechi left the room.

14. again, when did it say no reception? And why did that have to take place before he left the metaverse?

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Anyway, post being referred to here

So I haven't replayed or rewatched that scene recently to really give my opinion on things, but I can see both of your points on a fee of these

1) + 14) because these are kinda the same point: While it's true it's established that Sae gets a phone call down there, the point might be that they shouldn't because they're 8 floors underground. I mean, I barely get reception in my dorm which is on a hill in a city.

2) I haven't played the game recently enough to weigh in here

3) OP's point might have been that after the testimony and Sae coming to the realization that Goro's a suspect, she should be wary of him and that should change her cognition of him, the way in Futaba's Palace the PT could intially approach in their normal clothes, but then got seen as enemies and had to wear their thief clothes in the same area. So an argument could be made that Ren told Sae Goro was the traitor, she should think of him as an enemy, and this he should change into his thief attire regardless of his proximity to the Palace.

6) maybe Futaba would could pull strings? I know the conspiracy said they would falsify a death certificate anyway.

9-11) IDR enough

12) I remember Morgana mentioning this but I assumed Ren told him. This does circle back to how they ranked up if the real Ren wasn't there though.

13) Yeah they do dissolve but there's no reason for the reaction to be delayed that long, nor for there to even be blood. No other cognitive person has behaved like that and there's no reason for that to be different here other than Goro would figure everything out otherwise.

14) I already mentioned this but tbh that scene would've been better if there wasn't reception and we were spared that exposition dump.

So yeah there are definitely things I'm willing to suspend my belief for (the cellphone reception, the body, and Sae getting out of there unnoticed) then there's stuff that's iffier like Goro's thief attire that could be argued either way on account of the Metaverse not being real and thus we can't say for sure how it would have worked in this case, but then there's stuff that completely breaks my immersion like the cognitions behaving nothing like any other example we've seen so far for no reason other than plot and to pull a fast one on the player.

Generally speaking, I feel like if you're writing a complex plan like this you don't want to be overly-reliant on the audience going "logically I know that's weird but I'll bite because i'm interested" because if you make the audience go "wait what" too many times that'll break their immersion and they start picking at the little things.

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jjinomu · 6 years

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i think a better way is just to say male meiko??? idk, i see alot of discourse around changing characterd genders :/

mmm i actually have started to refer to those specific edits as ‘♂designs’ if that’s okay???? but i like to keep the character names bc u don’t want some random male design of a character popping up in the original characters tag or smth u know what i mean???

however, the edits i use (and may- in regards to luki) are basically our own fan-’developed’ (for lack of a better word- bc we didn’t create the names) characters at this point, i don’t personally really consider them ♂ designs myself anymore but more so…. like just siblings of the original characters in a way??? so i mean i.. still kind of want to call ‘male meiko’ (to)meito…….. because he’s seemingly his own developed character now rather that just….. supposedly the male design of meiko

yknow what i’m saying? it’s basically an OC that started out intially as an alternate design (but is not really an OC idk how to explain im dumb)

though with that said, this is like only applicable to meito kaiko and luki who started out as alternative designs but evolved to their own separated characters the more i tweaked them?? idk how to word it properly, but idk, i know personally i no longer consider them as what they intially were, just fan-made siblings lelelel

but ya like i said, my other alternate edits i have updated their descriptions referring them as “♂ designs” so i hope that’s okay…… because those were literally what they were…… they don’t really have any background i was just bored and wanted to experiment with more masculine faces (even tho they’re all pretty feminine) but i guess if i were to add more story, change em up a bit- i think i could pull them off as actual vocaloid-spliced-OCs (since mayuto didn’t really properly exist until i named him that randomly neither did merlinite like who tf is merlinite) but i ain’t doin that cus im lazy

i also am aware of like the whole discourse stuff which is why i took a step back in the first place because i don’t want to like….. offend anyone or anything since i’m not like super educated on things and i can be ignorant (no offence to me but i’m dumb as shit) and get into some kind of not-fun event, especially now that i’m older??? like i ain’t got that much time left, i just wan hav fun and post stuff that people might enjoy because i enjoy it too!!

#that sounds like i’m about to die but i mean it in the sense that i’m getting a bit old for the stuff that i’m doing here #so i will need to move on eventually hehe #notmmd #ask #Anonymous

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