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tanoraqui · 2 years
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optimal Fëanor reembodiment shenanigans, pt. ? of ?:
Fëanor: [generally trying to be Good(TM), but nonetheless throwing a minor hissy fit over how the jewelsmiths and related crafters of the Noldor have rallied around Celebrimbor as their leader and have no interest whatsoever in changing]
someone: I’m sorry, but did anything YOU ever made singlehandedly—okay, three-handedly—preserve the power and safety of Elves in Middle Earth for an Age and a half of the world, and play a major role in the salvation of the world from evil in general?
Fëanor: [points angrily and exemplifyingly up at the Star of Eärendil sailing by] YES!
someone else, swiftly: Oh, so you agree that Eärendil’s continued holding and keeping of the Silmaril is essential for the good of all Arda and should not be disrupted for any reason?
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herecirmsims · 2 months
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Solo Horse And Rider
Nine poses for a solo rider and horse, plus all-in-ones. There are some issues with clipping reins (when using posed versions) and floating feet - please see details beneath cut!
You will need: - Pose Player - Teleport Any Sim - Horse Ranch EP
Useful, but not required for the poses to work: - Iberian saddle and Medieval Engraved Bridle With Reins - Reins For Posing Bridle
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Other CC used: Leg bells and braided mane/tail/forelock by SchrodCat | Default replacement horse skin by @minervamagicka | Celebrimbor armour by @plazasims | a slightly edited version of Apricot Blossom Preset by Simsboo
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These poses have been annoying me for months lmao. I made them last year but ran into a couple of issues: at the time, all-in-one horse and rider poses posed out of alignment when placed off-lot with TOOL, and I also couldn't stop the reins from clipping in game (they are posed, and don't clip in Blender). I specifically wanted poses with reins because I have a hard time drawing them in, as I only have a mouse.
My off-lot bug seems to have been solved, and although I still haven't figured out why the reins are slightly off in game, I figured it probably doesn't matter: in the time Horse Ranch has been out, I've noticed most people draw reins in themselves.
I adjusted them slightly to work with the gorgeous new medieval saddle and stirrups by @morningstarequestrian , since that's what I'd be using my poses with, but although the rider's feet are resting on the stirrups in Blender, in game they hover. I don't know why and by this point I don't care enough to find out LMAO.
I've kept the original placement of the rider's hands and the reins on the horse rig, so you can use it with the LeiaMaria bridle for posed (but occasionally clipping) reins, or with any other bridle and draw the reins in yourself. In medieval art, most horses are shown to have two reins (one decorated, one 'normal') so I think using it with Morningstar's Medieval Bridle like this works fine (I would have drawn reins in myself if I wasn't lazy). The poses work with EA saddles, but I don't have other CC saddles-with-stirrups so can't say if the placement is off for others. 
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nelyos-right-hand · 6 months
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I've been reading post-reembodiement fics lately, and Fëanor trying to fix his relationship with his sons/ making amends for his mistakes is a pretty common occurrence in them.
Whenever that happens Curufin is almost always the first to forgive his father, and if Fëanor starts to make stupid choices again, he is often the first to support him.
And I see why many people see it that way. In the Silm, Celegorm and Curufin are their father's strongest supporters and the most ruthless when it comes to following their oath. Curufin is also described to be Fëanor Junior and they probably had a very close relationship.
But what if that changes after the first age?
Through the entire first age, Curufin continued to believe in the oath and their father. Sure, the others followed the oath as well, but I don't think that any of them did it because they actually believed in it.
Maedhros did it because Fingon was dead and he had stopped caring. Maglor, Caranthir and the Ambarussar did it because the oath was driving them. Celegorm did it because he was no longer sane and wanted revenge and bloodshed. He did it because he was hurting and now it was time for others to hurt.
But Curufin still did it for Fëanor. Because yes, right now things were looking pretty bad, but in the end everything would turn out fine. They were going to get the Silmaril, and then they were going to defeat Morgoth, fulfill their oath and make their father proud. Things were still going according to plan. Curufin himself might be unable to see it right now, but that's just because Fëanor was a genius. He had planned for this because he wouldn't have made them swear the oath if he hadn't, right? Everything was gonna be fine, all he had to do was trust his father.
But then suddenly he turned around just in time to see Dior drive his sword through Celegorm's chest. And he didn't even have time to process that because in the next moment he was hit by an arrow, and another, and another, and another.
Curufin didn't live very long after that, maybe two or three seconds. But in that time he realized something.
Things were not going according to plan. They couldn't because there was no plan. Fëanor didn't have any idea what he was doing when he swore the oath. And he most certainly didn't have his sons' welfare in mind at that moment.
They wouldn't get the Silmarils, not even one of them. They wouldn't fulfill the oath and they wouldn't defeat Morgoth. They wouldn't even survive.
Celegorm was dead and Curufin was dying and their other brothers would die soon too, and it would all be for nothing. He had spend the last five-hundred years believing in and fighting for a purpose that wasn't even a real purpose but the fantasies of a dead madman.
He had been betrayed by the person he loved most and now he would die for him.
(Hint-Celebrimbor-hint)
(Alright, so Fëanor didn't actually betray Curufin because that would mean that he did it on purpose or that he had any ill intentions towards him. That, of course, wasn't the case because Fëanor did love his sons dearly, he just, you know, went absolutely mad after Finwë's death. Curufin just feels betrayed because he is dying and stuff.)
So back in Valinor Curufin has the most trouble forgiving his father. That surprises Fëanor as much as the rest of the family cause it kind of contradicts his actions in his previous life but maybe death does that to people.
In the end he does forgive him of course, but it takes some time to fix their relationship and it takes way longer for him to trust Fëanor again then it did for the rest of his sons.
These are just some loose thoughts cause it's the middle of the night and I'm bored but I think it's interesting because it's different from what we usually see of Curufin.
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eglerieth · 6 months
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On the Fëanorian accent
There is a great deal of fandom content on the subject of people like Elrond being said to have a “Fëanorian accent” which is based solely on use of the Thúlè. This is a bit ridiculous, as that is the deliberate pronunciation of a single letter, and therefore hardly an accent.
However, I do think that the Fëanorians probably did have their own accent, one that had nothing to do with the Thúlè and everything to do with the fact that they spent thousands of years exploring Valinor with only each other for company, and hundreds more years in Beleriand more or less shunned from other elven peoples. That’s literally how accents form, people.
the list of people who spoke with a Fëanorian accent is as follows:
• Fëanor
• his sons
• (nerdanel?)
• celebrimbor
• the people who followed Fëanor the closest in the flight of the Noldor
• the people of Himring
• Elrond and Elros
• Aradhel. It was a quirk that her many fans easily accepted while in Valinor; in Vinyamar and Gondolin, people diplomatically pretended not to notice
• because of that, Maeglin had a Fëanorian accent when speaking Quenya when he first arrived at Gondolin, but he quickly picked up on how it made people uncomfortable and learned to speak in a Gondolinian accent so as not to associate himself with their bad memories.
• Fingon is an interesting case. He speaks with the most classically mainstream Noldorin accent imaginable. It’s more perfect and precise than even that of Finwë or Fingolfin. His accent is the one actors study when they want to play a Noldo; you know the type. But when he spends too much time around Maedhros, their accents sort of meld into a weird mainstream/Fëanorian hybrid. No one else experience this. Whenever they returned home after time spent together, there’s a lot of drama, especially in the Fëanorian household. Fëanor freaks out every. Single. Time. “WHY DOST THOU SPEAK IN THE SUBPAR MANNER OF HE WHO IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT MY BROTHER?! HAVE I RAISED YOU TO SULLY THYSELF IN SPEECH?! WHY DOTH MY FIRSTBORN REJECT HIS FAMILY SO?!” And then poor Maedhros is like, “Sheesh, Atya, I just spent some time with my dear friend and cousin. I’m not abandoning our family!” The accent wears off a few weeks later anyway. Every time. When the Ambarussa were innocent little elf-lings, they used to tease Maedhros about it, mocking him in an awfully exaggerated Nolofinwëan accent. He would generally slap them upside the head for it, but he took it in good fun. But after a while Fëanor got more obsessive and the twins got older and wiser, and they stopped. Soon after it became a moot point anyway, as the lies of Melkor had started sowing discord and Maedhros stopped spending time with Fingon. Later, in Beleriand, they never resumed teasing him even after Fëanor died and Maedhros and Fingon reconnected, because after Maedhros’s time in Thangoridrim, no one, not even his brothers, dared tease him about anything to his face, partly out of pity and partly because he was now terrifying. But he and Fingon still had that weird hybrid accent every time they spent time together, which is why Thorondor’s first exposure to Quenya was with an accent that only two people in the world had only some of the time. Much like with Aradhel, the people of Gondolin diplomatically overlook the faint Fëanorian accent the King of Eagles occasionally speaks with.
whoever wants to add, feel free!
@nerdy-catfish, @rouxelf
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theelvenhaven · 11 months
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Postpartum Depression
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Celebrimbor x Reader
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Request: I absolutely love your work. Was wondering about a Celebrimbor x reader where they are new parents in valinor. (Family barging in is a bonus, lol)
A/N: So I know you were probably looking for something that was more sappy and affectionate but to break the monotony around writing the same thing over again, I wanted to share what it is like to have PPD and shed some light on that. As someone who has had it, I don't think it's talked about enough. I thought this would be a good prompt for Mental Health Awareness Month.
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Something was wrong, and you knew it from the moment the high of your child being placed on your chest from delivery wore off. 
Yet you hadn’t said anything to Celebrimbor, at first it made you happy and filled your heart with joy to see him holding your little one. The way he cradled them close to his chest and the way he whispered and spoke so softly to them. Fawning over everything about them, their black wispy hair, the stork bites on their forehead, their tiny fingers and toes. 
He loved to watch you nurse and hovered, and though the experience was painful Celebrimbor was on board and ready to help you with any and everything- lanolin application, massaging your chest to help break up the rock hard pain of engorgement, bringing you water and snacks often to keep up with your supply. 
You couldn’t have asked for a better partner, one who didn’t cringe at the sight of the blood when you leaked through pads who helped mix the remedies to ease the dull pain in a place… well that you couldn’t have thought were possible to experience there. Let alone he took your little one the moment it was clear you needed rest and they were satisfied. 
Admittedly in those moments when he left the room to let you sleep you could do everything but sleep. Finding yourself openly weeping in silence over the fact that everything felt so wrong. 
You weren’t happy to be a new parent. 
You cringed at every cry your sweet little one made, you feared constantly you were hurting them, you wondered why you couldn’t nurse correctly and without pain. You wished nothing more to be a good parent. But you felt as if you weren’t capable of that. 
You couldn’t bring yourself to smile when you were handed the baby, all you could do was stare at them and wonder why you were their parent. Wondering why it was you Eru chose to give this blessing, when you were struggling to feel grateful for the gift you had for them. 
You loved them immensely and for that reason it felt like you should just leave. Leave them and Celebrimbor, it was selfish. But you felt like staying when you couldn’t be a good parent was even worse, you didn’t understand what was wrong with you. 
Why you were always so sad and questioning your every move, you felt like an utter failure and like you wouldn’t be able to raise a capable elf in society if you couldn’t get it together. You felt as though you couldn’t tell Celebrimbor what was going on with you, in fear that he’d judge you and you suspected in fear that he’d take the baby from you. That he’d think that you were crazy and incapable of being a parent, and you didn’t want to face that reality of someone else confirming what you already knew. 
Unbeknownst to you, Celebrimbor was no fool when it came to your strange behavior. He saw the constant sadness in your eyes, the way you looked at the child you two shared. The fear, the hurt, the confusion. It was no secret no matter how hard you tried to hide it from him… And try as you might to cry in silence in your room… Celebrimbor would sit at the door unsure how to comfort you and what to do to help you.
So he did the only thing he knew to do, and ask his father and mother for help. 
You were sitting on the sofa in your sitting room, the little one nursing on your chest as you leaned back and stared quietly at the ceiling. You clutched the little one close to your chest, scared if you loosened your grip you’d drop them, before Celebrimbor came around into the room with a glass of water and fresh cut up fruit. 
Your elfling made a little grunt before pulling off your chest and Celebrimbor reached over to help you cover up as he took his seat next to you. Suddenly his arm came around you when he finished and he pulled you in close to his chest. Allowing for you to readjust how you held the baby, before he pressed a kiss to your temple.
“Y/N.” Celebrimbor began to speak to you in a gentle voice, it felt like it had been so long since he had been so tender and gentle in speaking with you. Oft times you felt like you were two passing ships in the night that only had time for one another if it involved the baby. 
“Can I be honest with you?” He asked softly, as his hand gently caressed your arm watching as you brought the blanket a little higher on the baby. Making sure to keep them warm, only to hear them grunt out a little bit and shift before they sighed against your chest. 
You on the other hand felt fear course through you at his words. Oh no you thought, he noticed how bad of a parent you were, how awful you were to them and clearly unable to tend to them correctly and struggled. He was going to take the baby from you, but you were quiet. Not saying anything before you finally nodded. 
“I am worried about you mírë.” He whispered softly to you and he felt you tense up underneath his touch. 
“What do you mean?” You asked in a whisper, trying not to get defensive with him. You didn’t want him to know anything was wrong with you. But Celebrimbor continued to hold you, remembering some of what his mother had instructed him to do to help comfort you, along with the fact that they’d be there soon enough to help. 
“Y/N, mírë, I know something is wrong. You barely sleep or eat, you are never happy… I have heard you weep at times you are supposed to be napping… You barely take care of yourself, my love.” There wasn’t a tone of judgment or harsh criticism in his voice as he spoke to you, only giving you a snug squeeze and it made tears well in your eyes. 
It had been so obvious that you were a failure, he noticed all of it. And now you feared he’d leave you over it, so you sniffled trying to keep from being any more of a mess than you felt like you were.
“I’m sorry…” Was all you could think to say as you began to cry, and Celebrimbor was quick to gently get down on his knees in front of you. His hands coming to cup your face, with his thumbs gently swiping away the tears that kept coming. 
“It is alright, Y/N…” Celebrimbor whispered out in a soft coo, 
“Everything is going to be alright.” He said to you gently, which only made you cry harder. How could anything be alright when you couldn’t be a good parent or partner? How could he possibly thing that anything was going to be okay? Especially when you couldn’t see anything good that could happen. 
“How?” You whimpered out softly, trying not to take in a shing inhale. 
“Everything feels so wrong, I don’t feel like a good parent. Like I am incapable, I am just going to mess up everything, Tyelpë.” You began in a sob, and Celebrimbor ached to hear you admit that you were struggling so badly. 
“I am a terrible parent, I can’t even be happy that we had a baby.” You sobbed out to him, and Celebrimbor felt his heart break for you. Gently he stood on his knees to lean over and kiss you on the forehead. Lingering for a long moment as he closed his eyes, trying to reassure himself that everything was going to be fixed an it was all going to be okay. 
“You are not a terrible parent, mírë… I promise.” He whispered against your skin before he finally pulled away to sit back down to look at you and offer you a small smile. Trying to reassure you it would all be okay and that it would get better. 
“Ammë and Atya are going to come and help. Ammë has been through what you are going through, Y/N. She will be able to help and get you set up with a Healer okay?” Celebrimbor said to you in a soft voice, and no sooner than he said the words did his parents seem to appear out of thin air. 
His mother looked at you with sympathy as she could see the tears staining your cheeks,
“Tyelpë, take the baby.” His mother said to him softly, and without second guessing it he did so, you gently let him. Not fighting him on it at all, while his mother gently pushed him out of the way, coming down to grab your hands and pull you off the couch gently and into an embrace. You could hear your father in law walking around to Celebrimbor, mumbling something about seeing his grandchild. 
You buried your face into his mother’s arms, resting your head on her shoulder as you cried. Her hands rubbing your back, before you felt Celebrimbor’s hand come to your shoulder. 
“It’s okay, it’s going to be okay, Y/N.” His mother said gently before kissing your hair. Giving you a warm and loving squeeze, 
“We will stay for a few days, help you get on your feet okay?” She said to you, and you nodded against her shoulder holding close to her, while Celebrimbor continued to rub your shoulder. For a moment you felt okay, like everything was going to be okay again and you sighed out in relief. Knowing that you and Celebrimbor wouldn’t be doing this all by yourself. 
“Come on, let me help get you into a hot shower… That always made me feel better. Curvo and Tyelpë can tend to the baby, and help pick up some so you aren’t scrambling to do it when you get out okay?” She said as you pulled away from her nodding your head at her words, sniffling as your tears finally started to come to a halt. 
“Okay.” You looked up at his mother see her give you a soft smile her hands coming to your arms to rub lovingly. It wasn’t that Celebrimbor wasn’t good enough, it was that you didn’t feel good enough for him, and to suddenly have his and his families support… It well… meant everything to you. And to hear that his mother had been through something like this? 
Well you thought everything was perfectly fine for her… But you could see it got better. 
“And tomorrow we will get a healer here so we can get started on your care, now come let me help you into the shower.” She said to you gently putting her arm around you and beginning to pull you along towards the main bathroom. 
Finally there was a light at the end of this painful tunnel, and you felt like you could breathe with their support. You couldn’t be anymore grateful and were more than ready to get to feeling better so you could enjoy your husband and your newborn. 
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imakemywings · 8 days
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After the juicy "Celebrimbor not talking to any of his family" take, you've hit us with another equally juicy (but probably controversial lol) take of Russingon which is something I've been riding for a while now, @spiritofwhitefire spoke nothing but facts. Still, on a serious note (no offense, I really love that ship so much) the constant characterization of Fingon as blindy forgiving, and always siding with Maedhros (or like being desperate to be with him) was probably what made me sour a bit on Russingon. Fingon has other personalities and motivations besides being Maedhros' love interest or being his hype man but seriously, he's Fingolfin's son, and seeing how close and loyal Fingon was to Fingolfin, I am sure, he would be genuinely pissed at Maedhros. I can't imagine him instantly forgiving Mae or something, and even if he did, does his forgiveness mean something to Mae because, at the end of the day, Maedhros is still doggedly loyal to Feanor. Anyway, this is just me being fixated on your tags, "not wanting maedhros to die a miserable death at morgoth's hands doesn't necessarily equate to total instant and complete forgiveness, "honestly a huge fan of their friendship never fully recovering..." please tell me more. I love your headcanons.
I don't mean to be in opposition to so many popular fandom takes 😅I'm usually not this bad about that...
Sure, maybe Fingon is a saint who harbors no resentment...but I'm not particularly interested in that take. #1, Fingon is presumably made a kinslayer in Alqualonde for the sake of the Feanorians, whom he believed were under unjust assault, but who were, in fact, the aggressors. #2, Although Maedhros does not partake in the burning of the ships at Losgar (something it's implied Fingon learns eventually), neither did he make any effort to stop it, and that decision of the Feanorians' helped condemn the rest of the Noldor host to the Helcaraxe, where, among other things, Fingon's sister-in-law dies. I would say he certainly has grounds to be angry with Maedhros and furthermore, to distrust him going forward.
Not to say these specific things are entirely or even primarily Maedhros' fault...but I think it would be very hard not to be angry with a cousin/close friend who had helped to put you in these positions, particularly depending on how Maedhros handles the situation after their reunion (i.e. whether he apologizes or doubles down or tries to pretend nothing is wrong).
This definitely relates to my general feelings on Maedhros becoming the center of everything in this fandom but yes, the way Fingon orbits around him in so much fanon gets quite old. I'll be honest and say I don't ship Russingon even a tiny bit so it's doubly grating to see Fingon reduced to either Maedhros' hype man (if alive) or his angst-generator (if dead) and have that romance be cast as so core to everything Fingon (or Maedhros!) does. And I do think there can be plenty of crunchy drama even without the romance aspect (Anyone who's had a friendship go sour can probably attest to this).
But in terms of actual character motivation and reactions--I think it's just a lot more interesting if there are actual consequences to Maedhros' actions in terms of a relationship that was really important to him, rather than Fingon just completely forgiving Maedhros everything always so that there's no friction in the relationship.
For one, as I talked about here, their relationship already had problems before the rebellion of the Noldor. How bad things got between them in Tirion is really up to our interpretation, but it is very apparent things were not kosher between them even before Losgar happened, and before Alqualonde. I can't imagine that doesn't color later events between them.
For another, Fingon's motivations in seeking Maedhros out in Thangorodorim were political. They were also personal, but the first motivation mentioned in his decision to seek Maedhros as Melkor's prisoner is to reunite the Noldor. And as I mentioned in those tags, just because he didn't want Maedhros to die a miserable death or experience indefinite torment at Melkor's hands doesn't necessarily mean he forgave him, or even still considered him a friend. MOST of us would not want to see someone we know suffer Maedhros' fate, regardless of what they had done to us.
"Then Fingon the valiant, son of Fingolfin, resolved to heal the feud that divided the Noldor, before their Enemy should be ready for war...Fingon had been close in friendship with Maedhros...Therefore he dared a deed which is justly renowned among the feats of the princes of the Noldor." ("Of the Return of the Noldor")
If nothing else, I imagine their relationship was always complicated after this. To your point above, Maedhros is deeply committed to fulfilling the oath of his father, and as the Nolofinweans and Arafinweans were there when the Feanorians swore to deal death on anyone handling a Silmaril, they have to be aware of at least the possibility that that may cause trouble someday (I'm sure they did not anticipate the scale or severity).
So Fingolfin, Fingon's father, is king (thanks to Maedhros)...but Maedhros is loyal to his oath above all else. And Maedhros still holds considerable sway over the Feanorians (I would venture to say it's a common theory if not outright knowledge that, should push come to shove, the Feanorians will obey Maedhros, not Fingolfin). How does Fingon feel about that?
To me, these things, in addition to Maedhros' earlier behavior (being part of the initial kinslaying at Alqualonde, not trying to stop the burning of the swan ships) mean that Fingon can never fully trust Maedhros again. There will always be at least a sliver of doubt and mistrust there, wondering at Maedhros' ulterior motives, at his end-game plans. And I don't think Maedhros is very good at making this not the case because he is always trying to play 5-D chess, and he's not always sneaky about it.
That bit above about how the Feanorians are loyal to Maedhros over Fingolfin? I imagine that goes doubly when Fingon becomes high king. Whatever respect the sons of Feanor might have had for Fingolfin as their elder they almost certainly do not have for their young cousin. And I do love takes where Maedhros (successfully or unsuccessfully) sees Fingon as far more malleable than Fingolfin and is trying to manipulate him from behind the scenes. (Particularly if this interacts with any insecurities Fingon may have about his abilities as king--to think that even Maedhros sees him as a weak ruler/weaker than his father!)
I don't mean to suggest they were never close again after the rebellion (although you could perhaps make the case), but that there was never the same level of trust, ease, and companionship in that friendship that there had been before. Forever after, there was always political calculus involved, because of the kingship, because of the oath, because of Maedhros' refusal to disavow the actions of his family (Admittedly--we don't know what position he took on Alqualonde or Losgar afterwards; it's never stated or even implied, iirc. However, based on his response to Celegorm and Curufin's attempted coup against Finrod [nothing] and the attempted assault of Luthien [nothing] and attempted murder of Beren [nothing], I will extrapolate the headcanon that he was not keen to admit to either of the earlier instances as being a mistake.)
Anyway to me it's sooo tasty if they stayed (sort of) friends and yet there was this unspoken mistrust that was always there after that, perhaps alongside a kind of golden nostalgia for the "old days" of their friendship.
(Also juicy drama to me if Fingon becomes a lot closer with Finrod than he had been in Aman due to Helcaraxe trauma/responsibility bonding and Maedhros has to grind his teeth and live with the fact that Fingon trusts Finrod more than he trusts Maedhros now. And lots of love for fans who also explore Fingon's canonical friendship with Aegnor and Angrod! )
There's also the fact that Fingon bites the dust before the worst of Maedhros' actions. I simply cannot see Fingon justifying the assault on Doriath, or Sirion, or the kidnapping of Elrond and Elros, or the assault on Eonwe's Elven guard. Absolutely, there is grief in seeing someone you loved and valued become someone you cannot support, but I can never buy into post-Mandos takes where Fingon just handwaves everything Maedhros did after Fingon's death.
So yes, there it is. Maedhros and Fingon's political drama charged friendship fallout.
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Thanks for the ask! I’m not sure whether to answer for the Silmarillion or LOTR, so maybe I’ll do both?
The character everyone gets wrong:
For LOTR, I answered this one way here, but there are a lot of other ways to answer it! I also think people get Elladan and Elrohir wrong. This may be a weird hill to die on because they’re small characters in the book, but I HATE how they’re represented in fanon. They’re made into carbon copies of the Harry Potter twins, who I already don’t like (ugh, I hate even mentioning Harry Potter here). I’m a twin myself, and I’m sick of twin characters being shoehorned into the goofy prankster role. It feels like a cheap attempt at comic relief because people don’t know how to write anything else. Especially when it’s just not how Elladan and Elrohir are represented in the book.
For the Silmarillion, I answered this one way here. I think the Weasley twin treatment also gets applied to Amrod and Amras, which is particularly nonsensical because the lives of all the Fëanorians are all extremely dark and tragic (the whole Silmarillion is tragic!). I get that sometimes people want to write happy, funny fanfiction, but can we please let go of the twins-as-wacky-pranksters trope?
Description of the worst take you’ve seen on tumblr:
For LOTR, I answered this another way here. But I wasn’t even thinking of another worst take, which is so bad that I’d erased it from my mind… the idea that the LOTR movies were an improvement on the books. "But nobody thinks this!" you will say. They do, and I’ve seen this take here on tumblr. WE HATES IT! There are good things about the movies (music, sets, acting, costumes, etc.) but literally nothing can come close to the beauty of the books. And besides, the movies deviated from them in many inexcusable ways—it would take to long to even list them all.
For the Silmarillion, one of the worst takes I’ve seen is the idea that Maeglin was really an innocent victim all along who was unfairly slandered by a supposedly biased history. I understand that sometimes it’s interesting to deconstruct the story, but at a certain point you’re just throwing it out the window. I’m not saying you can’t sympathize with him to a degree—he was clearly abused by his father as a child. But then he internalized those lessons—of his father’s possessiveness and violence towards women—and that was how he treated Idril.
I also know there’s a discussion among fans about Maeglin’s race, because earlier drafts described him as swarthy—and it’s certainly problematic for the dark-skinned male character to be the creepy one—but Tolkien’s later drafts described him as pale. So do with that what you will.
Which ships are the most annoying?
I don’t like the prevalence of Thorin/Bilbo. That’s partly because I hate the Hobbit movies, where the pairing mostly comes from, and it’s just not my cup of tea. People should write what they want, of course. I just don’t see the appeal.
For the Silmarillion, Sauron/Celebrimbor. It’s just everywhere, and I’m tired of it. Also, I get that some people are into darker relationships, but a lot of what I’ve seen of the pairing (even though I actively avoid it) is bizarrely romanticized. Like you guys do realize Sauron is evil, right? Even if he literally seduced Celebrimbor, I don’t think he’d be wracked with guilt about anything. People say they like this pairing because it’s dark, but then they turn Sauron into a poor little meow meow full of romantic longing and riddled with guilt because he tortures and kills his lover, and it’s just weird. I don’t think Sauron had romantic feelings for anyone, and I really don’t think he felt bad about torture and murder.
Worst part of fanon:
LOTR: I’m not even sure what LOTR fanon is anymore, probably because I try to ignore it. I guess I don’t like how the movie versions of characters and events have taken over. You know who also gets Weasleyified? Merry and Pippin, and it’s the movies’ fault. It’s not that I don’t enjoy them in the movies to a degree—but some of their best moments in the books were cut out.
The Silmarillion: I don’t even know if I could choose the worst part of fanon. I find Silmarillion fanon particularly frustrating, because in a fanbase where a lot of people don’t know the Silmarillion well, fan interpretations often get passed off as canon. People absorb fanon thinking that it’s canon, and that’s why you get so many posts that say things like, “Wait, I just realized Maglor ISN’T the nice Fëanorian.” (To be clear, I’m not judging people who say this. They’re unlearning fanon, which is good. It’s just a sign that fanon interpretations are taking over too much when you end up with a lot of people having to revise these big misconceptions.)
Ultimately, it’s just frustrating to me that fanon is so prevalent in either the LOTR or the Silmarillion fandom, because the source material is WAY more interesting. I might be swinging a bat at a hornet’s nest by saying all of this—but the asks were meant to be controversial!
You can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc):
For both LOTR and the Silmarillion, I don’t understand why people think Sauron can mind-read. That’s not a thing, but it’s astonishingly prevalent in fan interpretations. The worst part is, I don’t think people realize that mind-reading Sauron is a fan-invented concept.
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batsyforyou · 6 months
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How I Think Silmarillion Elves Will React to a P90
Celegorm 
Give it to me. Let me try. Also my ears. He is very chaotic about it. His ears ringing is only an afterthought. The idea that this could permanently screw with his hearing never occurs to him. Until later that is. 
Curufin 
This cheap material sucks. I can totally do better. Though I will admit the design is … Intriguing. He is probably thinking of ways of improving the weapon and earmuffs. Ear protection especially. 
Celebrimbor 
A mix between horror and curiosity. It fills his waking dreams with its noise and descriptions of the other weapons like wraith stunners or Goa'uld zats/staff weapons frighten him. Though he probably would never admit it out loud. And when he hears of the other threats and enemies of your world it adds onto his nightmares but also strengthens his resolve to fight and become stronger so he may do his best for his people. 
Maeglin 
He wants to try and recreate it and is mostly curious about its build and design. With that said he doesn’t actually like it that much he just thinks that he might be able to come up with something similar and implement it to help safeguard the city. His thoughts lean more towards rail guns. 
Ecthelion 
Cringes away and makes a face. But he does see how something like that could be useful; he just doesn’t want to take part in it. 
Beleg
When the roar and fire of the gun finally faded out Beleg slowly uncovered his ears and stared in shock at the target. He turned to you with wide doe eyes and said, “And you use these weapons daily, friend?” As a huge animal lover, Beleg can’t stand the thought of shooting deers and other animals with guns. The mere idea breaks his heart because when he compares the damage done to the target and how an animal might look he doesn’t like it. He thinks it's inhuman and does not want anything to do with the gun. Even when explaining creatures like the wraith to him he would rather fight them with sword and steel than ever use a gun.  
Maedhros 
Is shocked from the sound and destructive capabilities and immediately starts to think about how the weapon can be useful and tries to find ways it can be used to his advantage. That and the noise and roar of the gun unnerves him the slightest bit as the sound does remind of his time as a prisoner. Not much to overwhelm, just enough to make him cautious.  
Malgor 
The definition of ✨ cringe ✨ paired with ✨ heart attack ✨ He cringes away from the sound believing it's an ugly looking weapon. And that it sounds worse than nails on a chalkboard. That or his cousin’s and brother’s collective drunken singing. 
Caranthir 
No. And that's it. He does not like it and because of his experience with humans and Haleth he is concerned at the idea that in some other world humans just like the ones he knows today could build and create such weapons. However, he is a businessman so he does see the guns' potential. He thinks along the lines that if the people of Haleth had such weapons less men could have died. 
Turgon
He hates it. Believes it's an ugly looking weapon that lacks honor and dignity. Not to mention loud. 
Fingon 
Well. *offhanded shrug* I mean it's interesting? It must have been made for a great enemy. *a little unnerved* 
Finrod
The noise is greatly unappealing and the damage to the target is proof of its power. It's lightweight and quick to shoot and it looks to be easy enough to operate and maintain. I can see why such a weapon would become popular amongst your people. It allows for more untrained (unskilled) people to use it and makes it easier for women to participate in parts of war where their strength alone might not be enough.
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Hi, Anon who asked about Celebrian here! Thank you for your great answer.
I just loved loved loved your HCs so much it made me sob, fr my 3-year-old sister offered me chocolate because she saw me crying (no I’m not that young we are just like elves: born one generation apart from each other).
Toddlers cuteness and generosity aside, I love that the two women have a sisterhood-type of friendship, me and my best friend are just the same, although not related at all but in Tolkien everyone is basically related to one another and we like it that way. (“Confusingly complex family tree” As you rightly said)
Also I do love your depiction of young!Legolas because he reminds me of my little sister and it’s such a joy to have her around and that is true for him too.
Not relevant to the topic discussed, the idea of Thranduil being jealous of poor Lindir is hilarious, and it absolutely MAKE SENSE. There is a reason he became a fan favorite over the years so I absolutely want to see how that will play out and maybe what his reaction to the knowledge that a prince, a Sindar of Doriath, thinks of him as competition. Hilarious but also true, i dare say.
One last thing: If I remember correctly, but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, Maereth has/had a brother or a sister? Im not so sure of this, I think in The Crown you mention a nephew of the elvenqueen. But I didn’t see them mentioned when you posted about her genealogy. Im probably misremembering or it’s something I made up based on your HCs.
Now I stop ranting. Have a nice weekend! Byeee <3
my 3-year-old sister offered me chocolate because she saw me crying
I'm sorry for the tears, but I hope it was a cathartic cry! *hug* I'm glad the friendship between the two Elf-Queens (Celebrian is a Queen in my mind, titles be damned!) moved you so much.
Toddlers are so amazingly compassionate! My husband woke with lower back aches this morning and our 4-year-old seriously tried to give him a massage. XD You and your little sister sound very sweet!
the idea of Thranduil being jealous of poor Lindir is hilarious, and it absolutely MAKE SENSE.
I have such a soft spot for Lindir! He's just that shy, slightly awkward and nerdy guy who might get overlooked for being quiet, but he's actually a hottie who's unaware of his own sex-appeal. So yeah. Even though he and Maereth's friendship stays entirely platonic, stew on that for a while, Thranduil.
Maereth has/had a brother or a sister? Im not so sure of this, I think in The Crown you mention a nephew of the elvenqueen.
I'm gonna give you a virtual trophy for being the first one to notice this and bring it up with me! I've been dropping mentions of Maereth's nephew/the Thranduilions' cousin in multiple hc posts and fics now! Here are just a few of those sources:
The Crown
Greenleaf's Day Out, Chapter 5
Yuletide in the Elvenking's Realm, Day 5: Five Golden Rings
SotWK OC: Olondir, Master Craftsman of the Woodland Realm
Lord Olondir (oc) is the son and only child of Maereth's brother, Calinondo (oc). Although he died fighting in the War of the Last Alliance, Calinondo is a significant character in the SotWK AU because he became heir to the knowledge and craft of the great Celebrimbor, his uncle and mentor. (Remember that Maereth's grandfather is Maglor, which makes Maereth's mother and Celebrimbor first cousins--they were very close with each other.)
Calinondo passed on everything he knew to his son, so that by the Third Age, Olondir was named the Master Craftsman of the Woodland Realm. Apart from helping craft the Elvenking's famous crown, he was responsible for other creations such as the faemir/calarsil mentioned in "Greenleaf's Day Out". Most of the armour and weaponry used by Mirkwood's soldiers in the Third Age, as you see in BotFA, was also designed by him (alongside Mirion, who was a Master Bladesmith). These Noldorin craftsmen were responsible for upgrading the inferior armour and weapons that contributed to the Silvans' defeat at the War of the Last Alliance. In essence, the fact that Noldorin craftsmanship lived on in Thranduil's family helped Mirkwood survive Sauron's onslaughts.
Because I've been sharing fancasts right and left, here is my fancast for Olondir, nephew of the Elvenqueen: Jake Gyllenhaal.
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Olondir is the the only Elf in the Woodland Realm who can grow a beard in his Second Cycle. Remember whom else he descended directly from? Mahtan, the great smith of Valinor and father of Nerdanel! Olondir keeps his beard to honor that part of his heritage, which he is most proud of.
Side note: I have a creator's crush on Olondir. He's almost like a 6th Thranduilion Prince, and his character is quite sexy. He's got the Fëanorean edge to him. Although he's not super developed in my head yet, I would love to write more about him someday! XD
By the way, Maereth actually had three older brothers; her two eldest brothers were twins: Surlírë and Vëalírë, but they died in the War of Wrath alongside their father Eärondir, so sadly Maereth barely knew them. But boys and twins ran strong in their family, just as in Fëanor's.
Anywaaaaay, thank YOU for letting me ramble on this long again! XD I love you so much for geeking out about my OCs with me, Anon! I'm gonna have to write this down in a proper and more thorough post later on, but it felt really good to share this much!
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ailendolin · 1 year
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Rings of Power episode 8 thoughts, so beware of spoilers:
Let’s start with Sauron. What I love the most about his reveal is that it feels earned. There have been clues right from the beginning yet they were woven so cleverly into the story that you couldn’t help but doubt your gut instinct. I often found myself thinking, “Something's not right,” and yet dismissed it in favour of the idea of him eventually becoming one of the Nazgul because part of me found him intriguing and wanted him to be good. Which was what Sauron was all about back then, wasn’t he? Trying his best to present himself as likeable and friendly to earn people’s trust. I think the show incorporated that wonderfully by making us suspicious of him without giving us actual proof. Until now.
The moment I knew for sure he was Sauron was when he mentioned gifts. I mean, him going with Galadriel to the Elves was already a huge clue but that moment cemented it for me. Annatar, Lord of Gifts. Well done, Amazon.
It also made watching the Stranger’s scenes very fun because I kept shaking my head the whole time and mumbling gleefully, “You’ve got it wrong. He’s not Sauron. You’ve got the wrong guy.”
On that note, I’m really curious about how the Stranger / Sauron reveal felt to non-book readers. I’m familiar with the source material and can pick up on clues like the gift one I mentioned above but people who are not familiar with the Silmarillion or the LotR books obviously won’t notice those clues. I have to ask my brother about his reaction tomorrow because for me, a lot of the joy of watching this show comes from figuring things out and recognising all these little nods to the source material and I’m really interested in seeing when he realised what was going on and how he felt about it.
One of my favourite parts of this episode was the reflection of Galadriel and Sauron in the water. That was so well done it actually gave me goosebumps. I generally really liked how we saw Sauron in action. The way Celebrimbor changed under his influence felt very similar to how Frodo and Bilbo change under the ring’s.
Also yay for Galadriel winning that fight of wills and realising they need three rings instead of two.
(I really hope we’ll be able to buy those rings because ngl I’d love to have Vilya)
(Also part of me is really curious about what would have happened if Galadriel had given in. Could she have stopped Sauron from giving into the darkness again? Would she have turned out to be worse than him int he end? We'll never know but I like that their confrontation made it clear that good and evil is not as black and white as it sometimes seems.)
Speaking of the rings: the forging looked really cool. It also made me realise that I apparently have a thing for sweaty, dirty elves. First Elrond in the mines and now Celebrimbor in the forge. Valar help me.
Let’s talk move onto Numenor. I can’t believe we end this season with Elendil still believing Isildur is dead. That is beyond cruel and I feel so sorry for him. Though I suppose that will make their reunion all the more emotional when it eventually happens. Probably the one thing I’m looking forward to the most next season.
The scene when they arrive in Numenor and Elendil sees the mourning flags everywhere and Miriel can’t was also really well done. It felt like a heavy blow even though nothing was happening (in terms of action).
And finally the Harfoots. I love them with my whole heart and it makes me so happy to see them all standing up for each other and saving the Stranger. I am very sad about Sardoc, though. I really enjoyed his character.
I’m also sad Poppy didn’t go with Nori and the Stranger. Their goodbye broke my heart and they better see each other again in the future. I do love that Nori is going on an adventure now, though, and I can’t wait to see what she and the Stranger discover on their journey.
“When in doubt always follow your nose.” I can’t express how much I loved this. Little 13 year old me who watched FotR 11 times in the cinema back then and could quote almost every line leapt with joy and couldn't stop herself from whispering that quote along with the Stranger. Seriously, these moments are so wholesome when you’ve been a fan for so long.
I’m sad Durin, Disa and Arondir weren’t in the episode (especially after meeting their lovely actors last weekend at MagicCon) but I get why they couldn’t fit them in. I’m really looking forward to seeing them again in season 2.
And finally, I just want to say that this show has exceeded my expectations (which were high but not unrealistic like some so-called fans’). It was a joy to watch these episodes every week and discover more of this Middle-Earth that is both very different and so beautifully familiar it makes my heart ache in the best of ways. I feel sorry for all the people who never gave this show a chance because they’re missing out on a wonderful adaptation that may have its flaws like every other has but was clearly made by people who care about Tolkien and did their best to tell a coherent and engaging story despite only having the appendices to work with. Thank you for this brilliant adventure, RoP team!
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For the wips game, Arafinwë and Nerdanel sounds most intriguing! And also, because I am me: Celebrimbor + EDS
Haha thank you!
I was waiting for you to ask about Celebrimbor + EDS, I won't lie. It's in very very early stages, but I envision it as an extension of silver and the various headcanons I've already shared for him, exploring different times in the life of Celebrimbor where he has EDS, starting with the early days in Himlad.
In this (otherwise mostly canon compliant) AU, Celebrimbor started really feeling the effects of his illness around the time of Maedhros's recovery, and when they went east, Celegorm chose to stay with him and Curufin to help him through that. So there would be a good deal of exploration of those three and their relationship, which fascinates me. And I'd also like to write about them post-re-embodiment. And probably some middle pieces about Celebrimbor in Nargothrond, in Eregion and in the time in between.
I genuinely only have two paragraphs written, so here's one of them, made of terrifyingly long sentences xD
Centuries later, when all that came to pass has long turned into stories, and is soon to become nothing more than legends, it is said that the reason Celegorm son of Fëanor did not have a realm of his own, during the long siege of Angband, is that he was even then fey and wild and of a changing mood, and his brothers strove to keep him under their supervision. It is said that Curufin the Crafty, younger but far more stable of mind, though he would turn out no less cruel in the end, volunteered for that task, and so they dwelt and ruled together in Himlad, though Celegorm was often seen abroad, hunting the servants of the Enemy.
Arafinwë and Nerdanel is much more advanced, though it was a spur-of-the-moment thing. A few weeks ago I read the first book of Nos Jours Brûlés by Laura Nsafou, an afrofuturist YA series where the Sun is hidden and they live in permanent night. It got me thinking about the time after the Darkening for the elves who stayed in Valinor, the changes in society, and how precious any light would have been for those elves who had never known anything but the permanent light of the Trees.
Here's a snippet:
And the endless night seems to eat away at them all. Dark thoughts breed in the darkness. Light has become a luxurious commodity, for them who have built their houses to soak up in the gold and silver of Laurelin and Telperion and are now ensconced in shadows. Candlemakers have been overrun, oil lamps are being jealously guarded, and now— Only one has ever found how to capture light and keep it indefinitely. “They said you were hoarding Fëanáro’s lamps,” Arafinwë says, watching Nerdanel’s face closely. She snorts without humour. “Hardly. I gave away every light I could spare, most of them to Indis for the palace – as you should know. The rest, one went to a friend who thinks he might be able to replicate them, a few small ones to neighbours who came to ask. They—” She waves at the overturned, destroyed furniture— “did not ask.” “What did they take, then?” “Early prototypes, mostly, like this one.” She nods at the one remaining lamp, which flickers even as she speaks. “They are unpredictable, and occasionally dangerous. A few lamps that need – needed – to recharge in the Treelight and won’t last more than a few days. The one good light I kept for my workshop, and a light sculpture that was a gift from Fëanáro upon the birth of Maitimo.” She looks away as she says their names.
From this WIP ask game.
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At the top, as high as Gandalf could reach, was an arch of interlacing letters in an Elvish character. Below, though the threads were in places blurred or broken, the outline could be seen of an anvil and a hammer surmounted by a crown with seven stars. Beneath these again were two trees, each bearing crescent moons. More clearly than all else there shone forth in the middle of the door a single star with many rays.
`There are the emblems of Durin!' cried Gimli.
`And there is the Tree of the High Elves!' said Legolas.
`And the Star of the House of Fëanor,' said Gandalf. `They are wrought of ithildin that mirrors only starlight and moonlight, and sleeps until it is touched by one who speaks words now long forgotten in Middle-earth. It is long since I heard them, and I thought deeply before I could recall them to my mind.'
'What does the writing say?' 
... asked Frodo, who was trying to decipher the inscription on the arch. 'I thought I knew the elf-letters but I cannot read these.'
`The words are in the elven-tongue of the West of Middle-earth in the Elder Days,' answered Gandalf. 'But they do not say anything of importance to us. They say only: The Doors of Durin, Lord of Moria. Speak, friend, and enter. And underneath small and faint is written: I, Narvi, made them. Celebrimbor of Hollin drew these signs.'
`What does it mean by speak, friend, and enter?' asked Merry.
'That is plain enough,' said Gimli. `If you are a friend, speak the password, and the doors will open, and you can enter.'
'Yes,' said Gandalf, 'these doors are probably governed by words. Some dwarf-gates will open only at special times, or for particular persons; and some have locks and keys that are still needed when all necessary times and words are known. These doors have no key. In the days of Durin they were not secret. They usually stood open and doorwards sat here. But if they were shut, any who knew the opening word could speak it and pass in. At least so it is recorded, is it not, Gimli? '
'It is,' said the dwarf. `But what the word was is not remembered. Narvi and his craft and all his kindred have vanished from the earth.'
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'But do not you know the word, Gandalf? ' asked Boromir in surprise.
`No! ' said the wizard.
The others looked dismayed; only Aragorn, who knew Gandalf well, remained silent and unmoved.
'Then what was the use of bringing us to this accursed spot?' cried Boromir, glancing back with a shudder at the dark water. `You told us that you had once passed through the Mines. How could that be, if you did not know how to enter? '
`The answer to your first question, Boromir,' said the wizard, `is that I do not know the word-yet. But we shall soon see. And,' he added, with a glint in his eyes under their bristling brows, 'you may ask what is the use of my deeds when they are proved useless. As for your other question: do you doubt my tale? Or have you no wits left? I did not enter this way. I came from the East.
`If you wish to know, I will tell you that these doors open outwards. From the inside you may thrust them open with your hands. From the outside nothing will move them save the spell of command. They cannot be forced inwards.'
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`What are you going to do then? ' asked Pippin, undaunted by the wizard's bristling brows.
`Knock on the doors with your head, Peregrin Took,' said Gandalf. `But if that does not shatter them, and I am allowed a little peace from foolish questions, I will seek for the opening words.
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`I once knew every spell in all the tongues of Elves or Men or Orcs that was ever used for such a purpose. I can still remember ten score of them without searching in my mind. But only a few trials, I think, will be needed; and I shall not have to call on Gimli for words of the secret dwarf-tongue that they teach to none. The opening words were Elvish, like the writing on the arch: that seems certain.'
He stepped up to the rock again, and lightly touched with his staff the silver star in the middle beneath the sign of the anvil.
Annon edhellen, edro hi ammen!
Fennas nogothrim, lasto beth lammen!
he said in a commanding voice. The silver lines faded, but the blank grey stone did not stir.
Many times he repeated these words in different order, or varied them. Then he tried other spells. one after another, speaking now faster and louder, now soft and slow. Then he spoke many single words of Elvish speech. Nothing happened. The cliff towered into the night, the countless stars were kindled, the wind blew cold, and the doors stood fast.
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Again Gandalf approached the wall, and lifting up his arms he spoke in tones of command and rising wrath. Edro, edro! he cried, and struck the rock with his staff. Open, open! he shouted, and followed it with the same command in every language that had ever been spoken in the West of Middle-earth. Then he threw his staff on the ground, and sat down in silence.
At that moment from far off the wind bore to their listening ears the howling of wolves. Bill the pony started in fear, and Sam sprang to his side and whispered softly to him.
'Do not let him run away! ' said Boromir. 'It seems that we shall need him still, if the wolves do not find us. How I hate this foul pool! ' He stooped and picking up a large stone he cast it far into the dark water.
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The stone vanished with a soft slap; but at the same instant there was a swish and a bubble. Great rippling rings formed on the surface out beyond where the stone had fallen, and they moved slowly towards the foot of the cliff.
'Why did you do that, Boromir? ' said Frodo. `I hate this place, too, and I am afraid. I don't know of what: not of wolves, or the dark behind the doors, but of something else. I am afraid of the pool. Don't disturb it! '
'l wish we could get away! ' said Merry.
'Why doesn't Gandalf do something quick? ' said Pippin.
Gandalf took no notice of them. He sat with his head bowed, either in despair or in anxious thought. The mournful howling of the wolves was heard again. The ripples on the water grew and came closer; some were already lapping on the shore.
With a suddenness that startled them all the wizard sprang to his feet. He was laughing! `I have it! ' he cried. 'Of course, of course! Absurdly simple, like most riddles when you see the answer.'
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Picking up his staff he stood before the rock and said in a clear voice: Mellon!
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The star shone out briefly and faded again. Then silently a great doorway was outlined, though not a crack or joint had been visible before. Slowly it divided in the middle and swung outwards inch by inch, until both doors lay back against the wall. Through the opening a shadowy stair could be seen climbing steeply up; but beyond the lower steps the darkness was deeper than the night. The Company stared in wonder.
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`I was wrong after all,' said Gandalf, 'and Gimli too. Merry, of all people, was on the right track. The opening word was inscribed on the archway all the time! The translation should have been: Say "Friend" and enter. I had only to speak the Elvish word for friend and the doors opened. Quite simple. Too simple for a learned lore-master in these suspicious days. Those were happier times. Now let us go!'
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welcomingdisaster · 11 months
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Yo! May I bother you with the character ask game? xD Probably expected but I hope not dissapointing: Finrod! <3
hiii!! not disappointing at all, i adore him one aspect about them i love i really love him befriending everyone he comes across in middle earth! i always think he died later than he did just because of the impact he has on the story -- political connections with dwarves, humans, sindar elves, etc.
one aspect i wish more people understood about them he's not an optimist.
he's very kind and seems to be very sunny and extroverted, so i think fandom seems to assume he's optimistic. but, like, he knows he's doomed? he is very clearly aware from very early on that he will die, and his city will fall, and all he has built will come to ruin. he knows the oath will eventually kill him when he makes it -- he knows this before he makes it.
and i kind of find that more appealing. he chooses kindness and friendship and love despite knowing that little he builds shall survive. he chooses to make the oath despite it all. he chooses to help his friend despite it all. he chooses to build his city despite it all.
and i don't think that's optimism, or really even hope. i think that's finrod going "i know i'm living a tragedy, and i choose to believe goodness matters despite that."
one (or more) headcanon(s) i have about this character
has absolutely stopped a hunt before because he saw morels or hen of the woods and wanted to pick it. drives every single one of his hunting buddies nuts. one character i love seeing them interact with just one?? gonna be boring and say beor. absolutely love seeing all the different takes people have of them making sense of each other and each other's cultures.
one character i wish they would interact with/interact with more
going to cheat and say two for this one. celebrimbor and finduilas! i really want him bonding with the younger generation in nargothrond.
one (or more) headcanon(s) i have that involve them and one other character
i think he gave a lot of gifts! not just the ring to barahir -- i think almost everyone who knew him well ended up with some kind of trinket from him. ranging from "here, beor, take this priceless gem i brought with me from valinor" to "orodreth i found this stick in the woods and it made me think of you :)"
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ULTIMATE TOLKIEN BLORBO: ROUND THREE (SECOND CHANCE BRACKET) IS COMPLETE!
Here’s who won:
Aragorn vs. Gandalf
Gimli vs. Maedhros
Meriadoc “Merry” Brandybuck vs. Glorfindel
Finrod Felagund vs. Sauron
Boromir vs. Thorin Oakenshield
Celebrimbor vs. Thranduil
Éomer vs. Peregrin “Pippin” Took
Arwen Undómiel vs. Maglor
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I’m proud of the Silmarillion fandom for keeping your blorbos in the race this far, but my condolences to all Maedhros and Maglor lovers. I’m holding your hand. I also voted for them both, but I kind of had a feeling they wouldn’t win. At least Fëanor is still in the running, but we won’t see him again until the round after next! Will he face off against Pippin or Arwen? Either way, he’s in for quite a fight.
My favorite race of all of these had to be Finrod vs. Sauron, simply for the poetic justice. If you have a minute, look through the tags on that race, because they are as golden as Felagund. At least here on tumblr, he can emerge victorious. Please hold as I cry a little.
Now comes the time to part with some of our beloved blorbos. Eliminated this round were the following:
Gandalf
Maedhros
Glorfindel
Sauron
Thorin Oakenshield
Thranduil
Éomer
Maglor
Pour one out for our boys. And yet, as we enter round four of the second chance bracket, we also enter the Fourth Age of Middle-earth, as both Morgoth and Sauron have now been defeated.
Round Four (Second Chance Bracket) will start tomorrow at 12PM EDT (GMT -4)! I’ve got it all queued up, and I’m excited to see what happens.
And now, for some analytics...
Who got the most votes?
Pippin absolutely destroyed the competition with 1,449 votes. His cousin Merry, for reference, got the second most votes, and he only got 576. I’m chalking that discrepancy up to Éomer being more well-known than Glorfindel, so more people felt like they could made an educated decision.
On the losing side, Thranduil got the most votes, with 482 to his name.
Who got the least votes?
Glorfindel has bowed out of the competition with 239 votes. He’s got more important things to do, anyway.
On the winning side, Arwen only got 415 votes total – less than Thranduil! I’m assuming again because Maglor isn’t as well-known. Sorry, Silm fans. Now I’m just thinking about what Elrond has told Arwen about her sort-of grandpa. My mind is going into fanfic territory. Reeling myself back.
Which races were the most contentious?
Celebrimbor vs. Thranduil was neck-and-neck, but Celebrimbor managed to come out on top by 1.6%. That’s only 16 votes! Both beloved blorbos, for sure, but Thranduil has now been eliminated.
Which races were the least contentious?
While Éomer has done decently until this point, he didn’t stand a chance against Pippin. He only managed to get 22.2% of the vote.
I have more questions!
You probably don’t, but I have one for you! Are there any ~unofficial~ polls you’d like to see? Certain characters you’d like to see face off against each other that you don’t think will happen? I’ll throw those in for funsies! Let me know!
See you tomorrow for a new round!
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russingontrash · 2 years
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I've always been interested by the fact that Celebrimbor put the feanorian star on the Doors of Durin. This is his greatest work, why would he use the emblem of the family he disowned as one of the major components? (Idk how to talk about art but you get the idea)
I have a lot of theories as to why he might have put it on there, but they're all sad. Read at your own peril.
He forgave, or at least still loved (the latter is more likely than the former), his family. I mean come on! These people raised him, and by most accounts (and my own headcanons) the House of Fëanor was tight-knit. Celebrimbor would have had an incredibly close relationship with all of them, and he might have wanted to remember them so that everyone else could too. It also might have been made easier by the fact that it was the second age and mostly dwarves used that door - they would probably only associate the star with Celebrimbor. This theory breaks my heart because, even after all they've done, Celebrimbor still can't stop loving his family and he probably feels incredibly conflicted about doing so (because of the kinslayings), which isn't something anyone should have to feel.
It might have been a reference to what happens when people get greedy - an obscure warning of the consequences of taking more than you should. The House of Fëanor swore the Oath, and, while I do support getting family heirlooms back from people who've stolen them, I don't agree with killing basically any living thing that touches said heirlooms (in the silmarillion the oath says that they vowed to 'pursue with vengeance and hatred... any creature, great or small... whoso should hold or take or keep a silmaril' - I've cut a few parts out so I just have the relevant bits, but this sounds a lot like even if a moles is digging and moves a silmaril, the oath will force the feanorians to kill it. this seems like overkill, and sounds very greedy). The warning, however, failed - Celeborn says that 'the dwarves of khazad-dum delved to greedily and too deep' (I've forgotten the exact phrasing but I know that this is close) which is why this idea makes me so upset.
It could have been to show his support for the 'new and improved' House of Fëanor, under the leadership of Elrond and Elros (this works best if you also assume that kidnapdoption happened after sirion). This one, I think, has the most Feels because Celebrimbor thought that his house might not be so bad after all, and the star would have been a symbol of his hope for a better future. As we all know, though, this better future didn't include him (which is a whole other can of angsty worms), and Elros' House also fell into ruin by the end of the second age (ar-pharazon).
In conclusion, every conclusion you can possibly come to will make you cry and Celebrimbor deserved better.
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why-what-no · 2 years
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My Thoughts On Episodes 1 & 2 Of The Rings Of Power :)
I meant to post this this morning, but I procrastinated by writing all day. So you get my thoughts now :) if you’re interested, here are my thoughts (pros, cons, etc) about the trailers and stuff for the show before it came out, just to compare my opinions now to my opinions then
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Cinematography is gorgeous, loved how beautiful they made Valinor
The vibe is really charming. I was worried it would be all generic dark fantasy GoT vibes, but it definitely had that Tolkien charm and life to it.
Getting more and more bothered by the Elves appearances, really miss the ethereal long haired people from the movies.
Although despite that, I really like the actual character interpretation of the characters. Young Elrond is pretty believable as a young inexperienced Elrond, Gil Galad is definitely very kingly, Celebrimbor (my bestest boy) definitely has that Feanorians pride and desire to be important and do… more, ig. Really liked all three of them
Galadriel was great, I love woman and I love the brashness that she’s going to grow out of and I can’t wait for the character arc :).
However, I’ve seen a lot people complain that she’s not “feminine” anymore because she fights, which… what? Sure, she fights trolls, but she’s more feminine that most woman. Including me. These people know that being able to defend yourself isn’t a masculine trait, right? Or are all these people complaining about that secretly Andrew Tate in disguise?
Plus, she canonically fights according to Tolkien, so… anyone who claims otherwise is a fake fan
The Harfoots are adorable, and again, very charming. Nori is my girl and I will defend her with my life.
Although the “stranger” kinda bores me? I hate storylines that are like “creature arrives in a place and has to figure out how fit in with people” it just feels drawn out and annoying
The Elrond/Durin friendship has my whole heart oh my lord. Elrond not realizing what he did wrong and being an elf, ignores his friend for 20 years and then gets sad and worried why his friend is mad at him
It’s just so delightfully elvish, and he’s so sweet with Disa and Disa is so sweet in general :):):)
His surprise when she hugs him 🥰 my favourite elven things is the shock of people hugging them.
I just kinda love Elrond, ngl. He’s my boy in this.
Although, the dwarf designs were pretty great, other than Disa’s lack of beard.
As for the human/elf romance, I’m not as into it as I thought I would be
It feels super rushed and underdeveloped. Like, Arondir is saying things to her that in every good romance should be put like, near the end to confess his love. But it’s just on the first/second episode. :(
Also, Halbrand feels like Sauron to me. I’m too attracted to him for him to be a good guy and he’ll need to be thrown aside for a Celeborn and Galadriel romance.
So he’s probably just using her to get into Numenor so that he can start his plan.
But all in all, I loved the show. I was grinning the whole time. Definitely watch it. It’s not perfect, but i don’t think anything entertaining is.
Very excited for future episodes so I can learn more about the characters and start writing for them <3
This was so long lol, I’m so sorry
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