#i really need to reread the silm

[ode-to-fury]

Dunk the tall , Celegorm , Hotpie , Dolorius Ed ?

Dunk

Celegorm

Hotpie

Dolorous Edd

#damn anon way to make me think #sending celegorm out of absolutely nowhere #i really need to reread the silm #also Dunk?? a babygirl #my babygirl #my son

[marta-bee]

The new laptop arrived and I’ve christened her Meneltarma. Whether that’s about the Faithful clinging to hope in darkening days, or Ar-Zimraphel making one last and too-late climb as the Akallabeth bears down, I’ll let you be the judge. The ambiguity appeals to me, though.

So far I like quite a lot about it, but not that they switched the function and control key placements. Forget universal Apple chargers, what we really need in this world is a standard keyboard layout. Still: nice new toy with a functioning mousepad. I’ll take it.

#marta blathers #rl #tolkien #the silmarillion #and as my tag reminds me i really need to get back into the great silm reread this week

[tarninausta]

tossing you míriel for the character opinion bingo if you feel like it! :} -@riding-with-the-wild-hunt

YES I DO but she's also difficult to grasp for me! She's incredibly important to the progression of the story, the catalyst, but we don't know much about her as a person. which fits the void she leaves in the story when she dies but is still sad :/ would love to know how she feels about. Oh, everything.

#🌟 ask #I love making headcanons about her she's like a fictional barbie doll to me (normal thing to say lol) #I was considering wasted potential but wasn't sure. Which tells me I need to reread the silm. Really this is what this ask game tells me

[warrioreowynofrohan]

Silmarillion Daily - Of the Remarriage of Finwë

Now it happened that Finwë took as his second wife Indis the Fair. She was a Vanya, close kin of Ingwë the High King, golden-haired and tall, and in all ways unlike Míriel. Finwë loved her greatly, and was glad again. But the shadow of Míriel did not depart from the house of Finwë, nor from his heart; and of all whom he loved Fëanor had ever the chief share of his thought.

The wedding of his father was not pleasing to Fëanor.

Yes, that really is all the Silm says about Finwë’s remarriage![1] I was surprised on the reread that that’s all there is!

As I understand it, Christopher Tolkien felt strongly about the need to keep the Silmarillion insofar as possible in JRR Tolkien’s own words. So between the choices of 1) keeping what we see above, 2) putting in the entire debate of the Valar from LaCE (pretty clearly infeasible, in that the level of detail is way out of step with everything else and would be longer than large parts of the actual action of the Silm) and 3) giving a lengthly paraphrase of the whole controversy in his own words, it makes sense that he went with option 1.

[1] I did cut the last sentence in half in order to present the material in a way that worked better with the timeline-order.

#tolkien #the silmarillion #silmarillion daily #finwe #indis #feanor

[marietheran]

LotR reread - book 2, chapter 8 - Farewell to Lórien

Oh, you can see Tolkien fought in a war and now makes sure his heroes need not eat army crackers...

Galadriel's song...

The geography of Aman seems a bit weirdly squeezed together if I was to analyze it though? "by the strand of Ilmarin there grew a golden Tree"... strand is shore, Ilmarin is the palace of Manwë and Varda, the golden Tree can only be one thing, and then it is said to shine "beside the walls of elven Tirion"... And Galadriel knows how all of it fits together. Hmm, I suppose it's best ignored. But the poem is beautiful.

"But if of ships I now should sing, what ship should come to me/ What shop would ever bear me back across so wide a Sea."

"Hythe" - new word. Apparently means "small port, landing place"

"Drink, Lord of the Galadhrim! And let not your heart be sad, though night must follow noon, and already our evening draweth nigh."

Aragorn/Arwen Allusions Counter at 3.875

All this talk of ending and fading is :(

This is really interesting, but, while it is properly the domain of elves, it seems that dwarves also care for the stars -- as much as Men, I suppose. Or Gimli at least.

"Then I say to you, Gimli son of Gloin, that your hands shall flow with gold and yet over you gold shall have no dominion."

"Ai! laurië lantar lassi súrinen, yéni únòtimë ve rámar aldaron!" is the part that I can both recite from memory and understand. Or at least, I understand almost every single word on itself, not bothering about grammar, and know how they fit together.

Quenya is pretty...

"Varda is the name of that Lady whom the elves in these lands of exile name Elbereth" <- here, and only here, upon my first reread of LotR after the Silm did I finally realise that Elbereth = Varda.

"I do not wish to drown my grief in cold water."

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If you look at the timeline in the appendices, the irony of it all is that Gandalf (now, Gandalf the White) arrives in Lothlorien exactly one day after the Fellowship leaves...

#lotr reread #original post #the professor's mythopoeia #lotr

[sharkangelic]

I still love how LotR is written wrt the unfinished Silmarillion. 

Like the publishers wanted Tolkien to write a sequel to the Hobbit. He really didn’t want to. It was supposed to be a funny one-shot before he got back to writing the Silmarillion, something he had spent decades worldbuilding. He ripped characters and concepts from the Silm - something with a lot of worldbuilding and almost no coherent plot - and made a plot in the Hobbit. 

So he did the same thing for LotR, retconned events from the Hobbit, and made it basically a sequel to the Silmarillion with a plot. 

But it’s written in such a way that much of it references what happened in the Silmarillion - because the worldbuilding is already there. And LotR is written so expertly that the average LotR reader doesn’t need to know all the fuckery that went on behind the scenes. What happened to Hollin, who and what Sauron is, who Morgoth is, who Elendil was, who Earendil was, what a Balrog is, Elrond and Galadriel’s cultural and historical importance.

Not knowing these things in LotR is part of the mystique and it tracks with the story, because LotR is read almost entirely from the POV of the Hobbits, who very rarely have any idea what the fuck any of that history is.

“It was a Balrog of Morgoth, of all elf-banes the most deadly,” is what Legolas said at Lothlorien when he was telling Galadriel and Celeborn what happened to Gandalf.

The average reader has no idea the significance of that statement, and we don’t need to. Yes, obviously there’s a story there. But it’s not important to the Fellowship’s task and they don’t have time or inclination to drill Galadriel for an account of the history of the First Age. We can, and do, chalk it up to “elf fuckery” and move on, as Frodo does.

Those of us who read the Silmarillion are the ones who were bugged by the little questions like this, because we’re masochistic weirdos. No one needs to do this. It’s not important.

But it is fun, and I found it fun to go back and and reread LotR with the sudden understanding of the historical references being made.

#lotr #the silm #silmarillion

[aurore-parle-de-ses-idees]

🖊️ for sileär?

silear seasheen :D she has been demoted back to level 30-something so she can be a mariner lol

she's also got a few hang-ups about sailing (Sailing West, as opposed to generally getting on a boat. she loves to just get on a boat) but, unlike halthel, she is. very much not aware of them. the bones of her backstory actually were put down before i reread the silm for yknow. any proper first age context lol which has resulted in some interesting things for her, bc i didn't really change anything post-reread and just went 'yeah fuck it why not'. she can be one of the sea-powers' favoritest elves for fun. (this is also free excuse to add more rivermaids and their cousins wherever she ends up) it [deciding she's full falmarin] also makes everything about her relationship with halthel a lot more interesting!

i do need to get back to the helf trio's story... i have a few things laid out, but they need a good bit of editing and i. keep giving myself different projects instead. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#honestly she has the setup to be the specialest protagonist guy ever #but she just wants to run around with her ship instead #she spends it all on somehow not dying in all the stupid situations she gets herself into #ask games #sil & om #thanks friend :D

[skyeventide]

since I reread the Shaping of Middle Earth's version of the final dialogue between Maedhros and Maglor, something immediately clicked in my head. I talked about before about how I think the only (well, one of two) possible way to logically include "his rights had become void and that the oath was vain" in Maedhros' inner thoughts is by assuming a narrative insertion (and I don't say this just because there's an external narrator — logically via textual proof, I genuinely don't believe it makes sense).

but fam, the Shaping of ME draft crucially changes something: Maedhros' and Maglor's lines are reversed. what in the Silm is said by Maglor here is said by Maedhros (whom I'll call Maidros to differentiate), and vice versa. this means, and hear me out, that Maidros is the one who acknowledges the Valar as potential arbiters in who should get the Silmarils, he who says they might come into their own via that route. which follows... that taking the hallowing of Varda as proof that the their rights had become void actually inserts itself in a characterisation where he was already acknowledging Varda (& co.) as a rightful arbiter. in that light, it makes perfect sense to have that line inserted after the burning. granted, the external narrator still exists, and has no way to know what Maidros is thinking — but this is a meaningful deduction to add into the narrative. (it still remains very baffling that Maidros should ever think that the Valar are on their side, considering the whole curse his House is placed under, plus the doom of the Noldor, which would make him either very naive or very delusional, but that's a different matter.)

in the Silm version, Maedhros' characterisation as established by the dialogue with Maglor presents a completely different picture, one of unwillingness to submit and lack of acknowledgement of any metaphysical authority of the Valar over the oath. but Maidros? Maidros could reasonably think that his right depends on Varda's hallowing, unlike the Silm counterpart, who is virtually another character entirely. (I will need to go check the ever useful Arda Reconstructed to see how the Silm scene was put together at the editorial level, to see where that specific sentence I talk about is taken from.)

(it's not the first time Tolkien mixes these two up, whether intentionally switching the characters around or possibly because of a mistake. not just for example with regards to who decides to take in Elrond&Elros, but also, and really egregiously, with regard to the Thangorodrim rescue with the eagle. in Nature of ME, it's "Maelor" who is rescued by the eagles, and Maelor is Maglor. probably. or maybe it's Maedhros with an identity crisis again.)

#Maedhros #Maglor #The Silmarillion

[ichabodcranemills]

1, 16 and/or 22 for the end of the year creator asks, please? :)

Hi! Thank you so much <3

Which work of the past year are you proudest of? Can you pinpoint why?

Oh, this is a hard one.

I'm really proud of we too are made of a need to call out through the dark, a Dominik Koudelka centered Wolf 359 fic. It was my first fic for this fandom and I liked the way I approached grief and dealt with a character we know so little of in canon.

But I think the one I'm proudest of is Through the Dark Glass.

It's a sort of gaslamp fantasy AU of The Magnus Archives and world building for this story was so fun! I'm actually working on a series taking place in this AU and I think it was a bold enterprise of mine, so I'm very proud of it.

16. Is there a subject/character/show you wish you had created more for? Why do you think you didn’t?

Yes! The Rings of Power, particularly Sauron and Galadriel, but I also wanted to write something about Isildur. I have a few stories on my WIP folders, but I only finished Yestarë.

I think the reason is the same as to why I never wrote any Tolkien fic until this year despite being a fan for most of my life: I'm a bit intimidated by the immensity of the canon and I keep thinking I should reread the Silmarillion before I write anything else (and I hadn't had time to reread Silm this year)

22. Are there any challenges/gift exchanges/etc you participated in last year? Which one was your favourite?

The only challenge I joined is the still-to-be-published Sylki Christmas Mischief and while it is, by default, my favourite, I'm having a great time writing for it and I expect posting the first chapter of my fic this weekend :D

End of the Year Creator’s Ask Game

#ask games #capybaraonabycicle #asks #my writings

[galateaencore]

6/11/2023

Fandoms I might one day write for that are not Witcher:

Disco Elysium: probably the only one on this list with compelling, complex, actually morally grey (or even black) female characters. I am inspired by Joyce and Klaasje, maybe shipped together, maybe not. Maybe I'll do what I really want to do and write a worldbuilding travelogue from the POV of the three mercenaries. But to feel ok, I'll have to read the book first.

Red Dead Redemption 2: maybe Dutch and Hosea before it all went to shit, maybe Sadie being a mercenary in the south.

Vagrus: deeply-felt fuckbuddies Kral Hestaera (dark elf army captain of an exiled regiment)/Prince Kareem (young merchant Prince making a name for himself) against a backdrop of protecting Tectum Carvos from the wyrms and trying to help their two disparate populations cohabit.

Master and Margarita: I just really like Woland, idk. I'd probably do it implicitly with the face of a more pop-culture property, but yeah.

Bonus Round: Silmarillion. I would need to reread the Silm (and by reread I mean reread small parts of it and read most of it for the first time) before I'm comfortable writing Tolkien fanfic, so I don't know if this one will ever happen. But if it does, joy to me, because the community is great!

#galatea again

[starspray]

Tolkien meme, 8 &19

8. Favorite of the Westron versions of the hobbit characters names (Bilbo Baggins = Bilba Labingi, Frodo Baggins = Maura Labingi, Samwise "Sam" Gamgee = Banazîr "Ban" Galbasi, Meriadoc "Merry" Brandybuck = Kalimac "Kali" Brandagamba, Peregrin "Pippin" Took = Razanur "Razar" Tûk)?

Not gonna lie I am not a fan of any of them, really, and mostly I like to pretend they don't exist. I'm sure Tolkien had fun with whatever linguistic exercise he was messing around with at the time, but they just sound terrible to me. Like, Galbasi sounds like a type of sausage and Brandagamba sounds drunk; Tolkien whyyyy. The one I hate least is Tûk, which unsurprisingly is the only one that sounds like it's "translation"!

19. What piece of Tolkien media do you revisit the most? What about it captivates you?

I'm not going to count the various passages I end up rereading for like, fic research or whatever. In terms of sitting down to reread it just for the sake of reading it, I suppose LOTR. It encapsulates everything that I really love about Tolkien's work, from the high quasi-historical modes to the down-to-earth humor. It has the same flavors of tragedy and pathos that you find in the Silm but it also has the inescapable theme of hope that the Silm lacks and that's really important to me.

It also, in my opinion, has some of the most beautiful passages of Tolkien's writing and is just such a pleasure to read.

(Second place is probably Roverandom because it's short and fun and honestly I need a good dose of that kind of whimsy every so often.)

#meme response

[warrioreowynofrohan]

Would you do 3, 6, and 15 for The Castaway for the fanfiction ask game, please?

Thank you! :D

3. What’s your favourite line of narration?

I’m quite pleased with both of these sections; they’ve got good cadence and I like the sense that they convey both of dwarven culture and Gimli’s own thoughtfulness and wisdom:

Gimli told the tale, not as it was told on days of festival or winter gatherings in Dale and Erebor - dwarves did not criticize their kings lightly, or to outsiders - but as it was told by dwarven elders to youths, when they were old enough to think and consider and understand. He told of Thorin's quest, for vengeance and for the treasure and kingdom of his forefathers; told of danger and daring and victory, of wrath and pride and dragon-sickness, of loss and of sorrow and renewal. And all the while he watched Maglor's expression closely.

And:

The words hit Gimli as a blow. He had to admit that he would never have spoken to another dwarf as he had spoken to Legolas. Dwarves had fought long and bitter wars over the death of their kings; not only against Smaug, but against the Orcs of Khazad-dûm and the cold-drakes of the north. And though Dúrin’s folk had never warred among themselves, other dwarven lineages had had long and bitter clan-wars over generations. If he had tried to tell another dwarf it was his duty save a bitter personal enemy, when there was blood between them, the conversation would quickly have come to ax-blows.

6. What makes this fic special or different from all your other fics?

Well, this is a funny question for me! because this fic actually became a chapter in one of my other fics (The Ashes at Thy Feet), and when I wrote it I had some of the general material from that fic in mind already. So in that sense I can’t really say it’s different from all the others.

But the big thing that makes it different from my other fics is the prominence of main characters from The Lord of the Rings. On the whole I find Silmfic a lot easier to write than LOTR fic, because few characters from the Silm have enough lines to have a distinct ‘voice’ and there’s more latitude for what I can do with them without them feeling out-of-character. Trying to match Legolas and Gimli to their canon characterizations was a different kind of challenge; with Gimli at least, I’m pleased with how it turned out.

15. What did you learn from writing this fic?

This was the first fic I wrote for a fandom events (Tolkien Gen Week), and I learned both that I can write fiction to a deadline sometimes and that it’s even effective for getting me to write - and that I hate it. I am not a very scheduled person, and I tend to feel that hobbies shouldn’t come with stress. On the other hand, the need to apply myself and not just drop things that’s provided by fandoms has been effective a few other times in getting me to focus and finish things.

In retrospect, it has also, I think, taught me to trust myself more. I came into this fic with a very clear idea of what it should contain, and there were things I had to cut because they weren’t coming together, and I wasn’t very happy with it when I first finished it. And now when I reread it, I’m more content with it, and I think the things that were cut are things that should have been cut and didn’t fit with it well.

#tolkien #the silmarillion #gimli #fanfic #fanfic asks #the lord of the rings

[forestials]

How does Manwë feel about flightless birds or even dodos

Hi! First of all, I’m very sorry for how long this took me to reply to - I’ve gone to see family this week and it’s been a bit hectic but I have been thinking about this question, I promise! Second of all, it’s a weird ramble, so please don’t feel obliged to read it all!

You mention dodos (which I love) and this sent me deep down the rabbit hole of thinking about creationism vs evolution in Tolkien which, whilst not relevant to the question, was very interesting! Especially in regards to the idea of flightless birds being created, rather than evolving after the lack of a predator, or the opening of a habitable niche after a major evolutionary catastrophic event. Why would flightless birds have been created? They occupy an evolutionary place in our world in relation to land (eg. rhea’s, ostriches, kiwi’s etc) or water (eg. penguins) - but I wonder how you could argue for their creation in Arda. ‘Just for fun, these will have wings but shan’t use them!’; I love it.

To delve deeper, you’d have to go into Tolkien’s own views on creationism etc. and I won’t go into that because a) I’d have to use my brain to formulate the ideas I read about and my brain is currently on holiday/total mush and b) this is a fun question! So I’ll stick to a fun answer.

Ultimately in my mind, and I am biased because I love Manwë, he’s a benevolent good figure as a foil to Melkor (who is himself a complex figure). I know there is some discourse as to their passivity in later ages/the role of free will/their judgements on good vs evil, but I am an unapologetic Valar supporter and also here for a good time, not an academic time - that said, the conversation is very interesting. However, at the end of the day, I like the Valar and I like Manwë. He’s neat, he’s nice and most importantly, he loves all birds regardless of what they are. Big, small, flightless or not.

I’ve also got a personal theory about birds - they link nearly every bit of the world. The skies, the seas, islands, mountains, trees. Flightless birds, or ones that can only fly a limited amount, are included in this. In a way, much like Manwë, they connect all aspects of the world. Perhaps different birds represent different Valar - ravens for Mandos, owls for Varda who sees all in the night sky, kestrels for Oromë, penguins (a flightless bird!) for Ulmo, swallows for Yavanna in the spring. So in that regard, I think all birds are special to him - like the rest of his family.

Don’t know who dodos connect to, if anyone, but I imagine he’d love them too! By actual accounts, as they were rather unbothered by humans (sadly), they were most likely rather sweet. Manwë likes birds, birds like Manwë. I don’t think he’d think they were lesser in any way (again, you could go off on a tangent about the Valar and their views on men, orcs etc. but I won't). My headcanon of Manwë is as a counsel of mercy and a healer of broken things, so I don't think he would think they are worth any less than, say, eagles (sapience or not).

TL;DR Manwë loves all birds, flightless or not, because they are not only representative of the ones closest to him, but because he’s fairly non-discriminatory. Dodos are most definitely included!

Please bear in mind that I do need to reread the Silm, it’s been awhile, so this is pretty much all headcanon!

#ask #manwe #manwë #i am so sorry i rambled and none of it is really relevant #i really need to reread the silm #i just love him okay

[marietheran]

LotR reread - book 2, chapter 7 - The Mirror of Galadriel

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs if Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-Dûm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone." *:･ﾟ✧

Hmm, compared with "in Elder Days, before the fall/ in Gondolin and Nargothrond/ of mighty kings" what are the odds she is speaking of Dwarven lords here, and what that she means her own brother and cousin? It looks like the former, but the similarity? -- maybe it's both at the same time.

"And the Dwarf, hearing the names given in his own ancient tongue, looked up and met her eyes; and it seemed to him that he looked suddenly into the heart of an enemy and saw there love and understanding."

I am summarily ignoring "for ere the fall of Nargothrond and Gondolin I passed over the mountains" because I want Galadriel to be there when Elwing is a child and a young woman.

Interesting though how "before the fall of (the kings of) N. and G." seems to be shorthand for "in the Elder Days" (maybe more specifically "during the Long Peace")...

I am trying not to be influenced by that awful interpretation of Galadriel we have in Cate Blanchett. I'm afraid it may not be working.

"Anyone would have thought you had a guilty mind. I hope it was nothing more than a wicked plot to steal one of my blankets." xd

"'That's funny,' said Merry. 'Almost exactly what I felt myself: only, only well I don't think I'd say any more.'" -- what was Merry's hidden wish?? I need to know! Something about Estella Bolger, maybe?? :)

I still don't really think the mirror is all that useful if you can't tell if what you saw belongs to the past, the present, or a potential future.

The Star of Eärendil is bright enough to cast shadows

"You'd make some folk pay for their dirty work." "I would. That is how it would begin. But it would not stop with that, alas!"

I am still convinced Galadriel has very few Marian elements. There are almost-Marian-figures in the Legendarium, but she isn't really one of them.

Btw, looking back through the Silm, the Galadriel here appears so much different to the one we see there (and we even get some dialogue for her in the Silm!) But now she's switched roles; in that dialogue it was her being interviewed by a powerful queen who definitely knows more than she's revealed or wants her to know.

#lotr reread #the professor's mythopoeia #lotr #original post

[essenceofarda]

also today i was thinking about the silmarillion and the words “King Bitch™️” came to my mind and then I had to pause for like twenty minutes due to having an existential crises bc i couldn’t figure out which character exactly i was referring to

#the silmarillion #silm #i need to reread silm tbh #i've only read it twice i think?? #but yeah i really should reread it sometime #it's such a hard read for me tho (as someone who isn't good at reading) #but yeah anyway a chunk of my day disappeared due to this thought i had #like i had to legit sit my ass down

[aurore-parle-de-ses-idees]

hey, can u tell me some things abt ur ocs? pretty please?

i would love to tell you things about my ocs

helf trio helf trio so many thoughts

-step one: unlock high elf and immediately make a captain Because I Can. also a mini bc i don't have one yet

-step two: oops they're getting personality but i don't remember Fuckall about the silm

-step three: reread silm

-step four: hmmm....

-really though, the three of them are just. all over the place. some of it's just the natural outgrowth of having characters who're like 8k+ years old, but they're also just in so many different places

-omaruin- halthel, and i really need to get into the habit of calling him that bc it's what he uses by far the most, whatever the alt's name in-game is lol- was one of maedhros's soldiers. was garrisoned in himring and got to see a whole bunch of the worst parts of the battles there up close. he ended up separated from the garrison and heading south after the nírnaeth

-(yknow the fire wights in i think the third fornost instance? i think there were some of those around after dagor bragollach- not as much near himring as elsewhere, but definitely Somewhere)

-sileär spends a lot of time esp early first age pointedly ignoring anyone who tells her what to do if she disagrees w it. she holds on a lot to 'I'm a citizen of alqualondë and you're not the boss of me' for. quite awhile tbh, but she decides she likes círdan eventually and, as far as she ever does swear herself to anyone, it's to him. i think she and halthel end up as a counterpart to the spears of lindon when the havens really hit their height up thru the last alliance

-silmeniel lived in gondolin. [disclaimer: i haven't. haven't actually read anything gondolin beyond what's in the silm] she was a scribe in the court(s) and ended up knowing Lots Of Things just by watching and listening. she's not really part of the Politics™️, but she definitely knows a lot of it

-she also has a library. the first- well her First first wasn't even a proper library. it was just one of her rooms in tirion. that was all personal stuff tbh. in gondolin she started smth similar, but it started picking up a lot of her notes and court stuff

-silmeniel first started in no small part out of spite. assholes in chats (assorted) were doing what they do, global chats and the average population of lotro being what they are. i was making a baby minstrel alt to run around w some friends and went 'ok :) sileär has a wife now :) fuck off' bc i sure was in Some Mood and uhhh yeah. silmeniel is level locked at 15 w scholar maxed out not really an adventurer and a lot more static than sileär and halthel as part of that. she spends a little bit of time in eregion before anything gets bad, then moves on to lothlórien and kinda just chills for the most part there til sileär wakes up and they sail

-silmeniel's also ending up as the main method for talking abt things like all the exciting things people have come up with around like. how to make your elves more queer and such. that part's been fun

-sileär is buddies with the númenóreans, and will continue to blatantly ignore anyone telling her she's not allowed to go somewhere and shows up anyway, though mostly she meets them at sea once the elves are loudly unwelcome in númenor

-halthel spends so much time at ports for someone who's so afraid to get on a boat (on account of doing some kinslaying at alqualondë)

-i think the helf rings you get- the ones that scale as you level to some extent, minor rings of power- silmeniel made. they weren't Rings Of Power™️, even minor ones, not in the way i think a lot of the rings of tham mírdain were made. silmeniel got simple rings, finely made but nonmagical, and engraved them herself in beautiful, super fancy calligraphy. they don't have any major or noticeable power to them, but they're very very pretty

#i think. that might be enough for one post lmao #sil & om #a lot of this will probably not make it into their Big Thing in any significant way but #many thoughts lol #lotro #thank u friend :D #so many thoughts to throw everywhere 💚