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#i fucking love orv so much
its-your-mind · 5 months
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ORV as shitposts 3/??? (joongdok ed.)
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n0bluev · 3 months
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Am i supposed to be sane after having finished reading orv ........ ?
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lifeof-pink · 2 months
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love how in orv you have these voyeuristic gods that livestream people dying for profit and then you read the webtoon and they literally look like they’re about to start playing hopes and dreams and his theme at max volume
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honestly my favorite thing ever, their appearances are so misleading, i think id fucking die in the apocalypse not because someone would kill me but because as soon as i saw one of these guys leading the scenario the higher functions in my brain would shut off and id try to pet them because LOOK AT THEM ?
if embodiment of surveillance state and late stage capitalism then why friend shaped????????
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evakant · 7 months
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kim dokja had to drag han sooyoung kicking and screaming into the found family
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yellowocaballero · 8 months
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ORV Characters Ranked by Least to Most Likely to Commit White Collar Crime
You guys said you wanted my ORV takes, and I try not to say things unsolicited, so I'll drop the good meta-analysis and literary criticism that I'm known for. For comedy purposes please pretend that ORV is American.
Omniscent Reader's Viewpoint characters broken down by likelihood to commit white collar crime, least to most:
Lee Hyeonseong: he's convinced that he's never committed a crime in his life. Intentionally, of course not. Unintentionally, he takes shopping for groceries extremely seriously, and is sometimes so wrapped up in the fruit inspection experience that he'll leave without paying. Due to his innocent face, bulk, and sheer confidence, he's never caught. In an economically thrifty maneuver, KDJ always sends him on snack runs for parties and texts him math problems while he's there. He insists it's like couponing. It's not couponing.
Jeong Huiwon: similarly, of course she would never choose to commit a crime. Also similarly, when KDJ says, 'Hey, wanna commit a crime?' she always participates. Since the crime is normally targeted at rich people, KDJ can usually morally justify it to her. She calls this harm reduction. It's not harm reduction.
Lee Jihye: would love to commit a crime in theory, almost never in practice. She has an idealized image in her mind of the ideal high school experience and it involves grand theft auto. However, the worst she ever gets is breaking & entering and trespassing, mostly because she didn't stop to wonder if the building was abandoned or not. She can't even shoplift from Claire's.
Shin Yuseung: the kind of kid who sets the dissection frogs in the school laboratory free. Looks up illegal exotic animal trading on the deepweb and sighs in longing. But exotic pet trading isn't very Animal Rights of her, so she just leaks information to the CIA and busts the rings. Lee Gilyeong convinces her to track down shady sellers on Craigslist and bust their kneecaps. Neither of them view this as significantly different from the dissection frog liberation. KDJ gets her a rescued exotic cat for her birthday as a reward.
Lee Gilyeong: self-explanatory.
Han Suyeong: she's been pirating media since she was eleven and has never stopped. World-class expert in pirating everything. She's the unsung hero who rips the CDs and games and puts them online. Runs the pirating websites. Has never paid for a webnovel or manwha or manga in her life. Despite this, she insists that pirating books is immoral and that people should support small authors. The FBI knows she exists and has been trying to catch her for years. She brags about this constantly.
Yoo Sangah: has committed tax fraud before, will commit tax fraud tomorrow, is currently committing tax fraud. Embezzles her company's embezzlement. Insists that she's only committing victimless crimes, mainly because she doesn't view business executives as people. Her ability to evade the IRS is mythological and it's how KDJ got a crush on her.
Yoo Junghyeok: does not understand adult life well enough to knowingly commit any sort of white collar crime. He is this high on the list because he enables and helps KDJ in literally everything he does, especially using his clout as an influencer. This is because KDJ has convinced him that these things aren't crimes, and he doesn't understand adult life well enough to figure it out.
Kim Dokja: has done every white collar crime under the sun. I can't emphasize enough how much crime he does. He's currently blackmailing SYS's college tuition out of a US Senator. HSY makes the shell companies and launders so much money with him. Alternates between running a pyramid scheme and a ponzi scheme depending on the month. Started a cult that one time but we don't like to talk about that. Runs the betting ring for YJH's esports games. Fixes the games. YJH does not know he does this, but KDJ splits the profits and Yoo Mia also needs a college tuition so he decides not to think about it too hard. Big into crypto and runs every crypto scam you can possibly think of, which is normally where the the ponzi schemes come in. Steals YJH's identity often. Somehow everything he does is technically legal. The only crime he does not commit is pirating. Exclusively targets the wealthy and ultra-wealthy and has never stolen money from a poor person. Sugar daddies all of his friends and pays all college tuitions. Anonymously yet obviously sponsors huge amounts of money to YJH's Twitch streams, mostly in apology for the ID theft. Would really rather be living a quiet life in a big house with all of his friends, but that big house ain't gonna pay for itself.
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blorbou · 1 year
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orv mspaint doodles because i am filled with joyous whimsy tonight :3 
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pressdelt · 15 days
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HAPPY HSY DAY
when your birthday is on april 1st, something like this is bound to happen
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coquelicoq · 2 months
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i love how possessive shin yoosung is right out of the gate. like she met kim dokja, what, a couple days ago? but as soon as she sees lee gilyoung she's ready for the thunderdome. babe you don't need to compete with this guy...kim dokja knew him first but did he make lee gilyoung his incarnation? no. he chose you. within hours of meeting you. you could be sooo smug about this but instead you're growling and hissing like a feral kitten. and it's not like kim dokja is much better...he's not possessive but he's all worried that she'll see yoo joonghyuk and go starry-eyed and forget all about her poor ol' sponsor. you're both ridiculous! nobody is a threat to the love you have for each other. dumbasses lol.
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captainkirkk · 8 months
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Gilyeong is totally down to murder people for Dokja as soon as Dokja gives the signal
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metanarrates · 8 months
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What do you think about how most people summarize orv's themes as love. I saw one of your reblogs about how it's too simplified for other works?
my general opinion is that saying "x is about love" is usually too damn vague as an analysis. while love is not a universal emotion (shoutout to loveless aros,) it's a common enough human experience that I really think that you need to specify what ABOUT love is being explored. is this a work about the depths of love? is it about the transformative potential of love? there are a thousand different ways love can manifest, and about a billion different ways a story can offer insight on the nature of love. I think it doesn't do justice to a story if you're not specifying what exactly it has to say about love.
all that out of the way, yes. many of orv's major themes are about love. specifically, it relates the love a reader has for a story to the love that a person can have for another human being. a story, like a person, can contain depths unknown to both author and reader - it is impossible to ever reach a complete understanding. there is always some element that will be impossible to communicate. something left hidden behind a wall.
but you can love that story, that person, anyway. you can offer your own interpretations, and try to understand as best you can. and the love and effort you put in matters deeply. the way that you can affect other human beings, specifically, matters deeply. even if it seems like your efforts will never reach that person, even if they are justifiably hurt by your efforts, even if your interpretations are wrong, even if you are the sole reader of a story. it matters that you were there and tried to love it as best you could.
orv also has a lot to say about love, self-sacrifice, and salvation. kim dokja's love of the story and his companions is a major motivator to why he destroys himself over and over. it's paralleled to his own mother, who sacrificed herself for his sake, and who he resented all his life and yet can't stop making the same choice when it comes to the safety of others. that sort of love and salvation hurts as much as it saves. it's as selfish as it is selfless. it's the same choice his companions make in order to get him back. they love him. they would be able to live with his resentment and guilt if it meant he would survive.
kim dokja's love for yoo joonghyuk, specifically, is both selfish and selfless. it is his love for yoo joonghyuk that was (unintentionally) responsible for much of yoo joonghyuk's suffering. the choices kim dokja makes out of love are what mitigate yoo joonghyuk's suffering, and eventually are what allows him to free himself from his eternal cycle. again, it is the love a reader has for a story, and the way that a reader both craves conflict and craves for the characters they love to overcome it.
it is the same love that drives yoo joonghyuk and han sooyoung to repeat the cycle again, as a choice this time. selfishly and selflessly. han sooyoung damns the world to apocalypse because she wished to save kim dokja's life. yoo joonghyuk chooses both regressions and his time in space to grasp at the chance to keep kim dokja alive. neither of their choices is guaranteed to save him. they know that. love alone isn't enough to save someone. but they make this choice because they love him, knowing that he would hate the choice. they create the story together because they want their sole reader to be understood by it.
and that's the end theme of orv's meditations on love and the nature of stories. if you love a story enough that it saves you... well, perhaps it's possible that the story, too, loves you back.
none of this is easy to describe in a sentence. I agree that it's probably easier to just say "orv is about love?" but I wish more people identified it further beyond that, since that usually is where the discussion just stops. I find orv's discussions on love to be some of the most compelling presentations on the topic that I've ever seen in fiction, and I like discussing it! i want to treat it with the complexity that it deserves.
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coffinmotif · 6 months
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Chapter 372: Ep. 70 - A story that can't be shared, IV // Chapter 535: Epilogue 3 - Author's words, IV
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mhaynoot · 10 months
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rereading orv and i just keep thinking about the dokkaebi and bihyung and how they start as these strange beings and storytellers and how they turn human in the end and:
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what is the dokkaebi? they are a streamer, the vehicle in which constellations can glimpse and read the lives of incarnation - they are the storyteller.
we are led to (justifiably) hate and despise the dokkaebi throughout the novel. it is an almost universal sentiment; kdj hates the dokkaebi, even some dokkaebi hate dokkaebi, the wenny hate the dokkaebi, the incarnations hate them. the constellation use them but do not love them. some are wicked, some are not. some are paul and some are bihyung. they are the beginning of tragedy, the horsemen of the apocalypse, and yet they are the bringer of the story, the beginning of end but nevertheless still the beginning. they are as powerful and powerless as the story they are weaving.
in the end, kdj still hates them, destroys the star stream, and kills all those great dokkaebis who incarnate and push him into the enemy of the story. and yet he mourns for bihyung's death and yet he embraces biyoo. and yet loves his dokkaebi daughter who becomes the dokkaebi king, the promise he had given her other father.
in the end, bihyung was a storyteller and he loved a certain story. and his story, his ■■, was sacrifice for this story we love.
does this negate the harm the dokkaebi have wrought with their storytelling? perhaps not. but do you hate hsy?
she who doomed the millions for one reader. she who endured the tragedy, perfected an ending, and then started it all over again for the sake of one lonely boy. the world for the life of one soul. does that make her evil? to the ones that died, to the ones who endured suffering and pain, to herself and kimcom. to kdj and to the reader who she saved and doomed? to herself who she cast into hell itself with her pen? would anyone ever blame her? for she is the beginning of pain and the beginning of salvation. she is the most powerful and powerless being ever.
author, story teller, god of the world. when you write tragedy, do you think the characters will blame you for saving yourself? for trying to save someone else? or do they reach out to you, and press your pen down and say: use us and doom the world for love.
hsy, author, god of the world, and someone who couldn't even save one reader.
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lifeof-pink · 2 months
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realizing while reading the epilogue that kim dokja’s constant habit of throwing himself to his death is not necessarily him having a complete plan to come back, but that regardless of if he comes back or not he simply cannot imagine himself having his own happy ending in the end is destroying me… like when did he ever survive specifically for himself?? did he ever want to live not because it would allow his companions to survive but because he himself deserved a place in the world??? idk idk im sad im so sad im wallowing in my own tears rn…. excuse my probable mischaracterization im having a moment
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walmart-miku · 5 months
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HE CARES SO MUCH IT MAKES ME PHYSICALLY ILL
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LOOK AT HIM LOOK
AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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caitvithinker · 22 days
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nozomizo <3
if i could keep the feathers of you, a remnant of your love, a piece of your irises painted blue.
you long for my hesitant hands knowing of the cracks in my mind, a string connecting our fates colored indigo incapable of untangling.
you are the only thing in this world i feel vividly, a photograph stained with tears on a late night accompanied by the thought of you.
i drown in the ocean of you every night, a reminder of what i will someday lose, of the love i do not deserve.
i am greedy, selfish and desperate to know and hide every beautiful shard of you from the sunlight, mine and mine alone.
but i love you too much to do so, too much to let you surrender your life to someone so rotten. i will not let you ruin yourself for me, you with the world in the palm of your hands.
you must not be contained by me, not kept by my word to live in isolation for the rest of your life; you must meet others, must leave me to ash by the sun so that you can find your fallen feathers in the grass.
you are not mine, a gift too beautiful to be claimed. the strain on my veins and my limbs grows more tireless through the rejection of your love, but i cannot say i love you if i allow you to do this for me.
please, i ask of you, do not beg me to stay because everything inside my blood is begging me not to leave. i will break our string by my own hands, a tragedy to prove my affection.
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