#i dunno. i mean in a sense EVERYONE has to act like thats not normal but
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Jughead//...Baby One More Time
Request: Would I be able to request a reader/jughead smut where you both find out the other is sleeping in the school, maybe you happen upon each other in the showers?
Warning: Smut! ooooo
After school most people run out the doors as fast as they can. Once the bell goes, they leave as quickly as possible, a trail of dust behind them as they all race to get home.
Not me however. Whilst everyone was running and pushing past me, trying to be the first ones out the door, I’m slowly wandering the halls, waiting for it to quiet down so I can hide in the old supply closet in peace. Not ideal, no. But for now it’s all I have. Growing up on the Southside meant you don’t have a lot to begin with, but throw in some lousy parents and missed rent payment, and you have no other choice to say goodbye trailer that you’ve grown up in, and hello to cramped, dark school supply closet.
Things haven’t been great at home, my dad has been drinking more than usual and my mom was off doing god knows what, but me? I was coping...kinda. Doing a few shifts at the Wyrm each week and the money that my dad made when he actually did work was enough to scrape by. However school had picked up its pace, meaning revision and homework instead of wiping down bars. And dad had been more than useless, a few days later him and mom had disappeared, leaving behind a note saying they were going away for a while. Meaning I missed the rent payment (+ apparently dad hadn’t been the best at keeping up with them), so I was kicked out, and with no where else to go, Riverdale High is my new home. Yay, me...
I mean sure, I have friends on the Southside. I have plenty of them, but they have their own problems and their trailers were small enough as it is, never mind adding one more person.
And living in the school isn’t that bad. For a supply closet, its kinda cozy. I have a little blow up bed, a duvet and tons of shelves to put all my things on, I just have to share them with cleaning products and mouse traps. But, it’s in a part of the school thats rarely visited and I do get first dibs on the vending machines when they’re re-filled, plus I know where to hit them exactly to get free food. And because I’m staying at the school constantly, I know all the drama thats happening with the teachers. Like who’s sleeping with who and who’s stealing Mrs Thompson’s pens.
Oh, who am I kidding. Living in a school sucks. It’s lonely, cramped and cold. Plus, just a nightmare. The only plus point? The showers. The school showers are the best I’ve ever had. They’re the highlight of my day, which to be honest, is quite sad to admit.
Okay, 3:30. That means I have two hours to kill before the school is completely empty and then I can shower. Library or bleachers? Library, I’ll do my homework for the week.
“Y/n!!!!” Sweet Pea’s deep voice breaks the silence that has settled over the library, making me giggle. “What the fuck are you looking at?” He glares at two people sat at the table beside him who are staring and shaking their head at him. Both of them shake their head quickly and stare at the table.
“I don’t mean to offend you.” I start and sit opposite him. “But what exactly are you doing here?”
“What do you mean?” He asks offended.
“Its 3:34, meaning school finished ages ago, and you’re sat in the library doing...” I trail off as I look at the work he has open in front of him. “Spiderman?”
“I can’t afford to buy it, but sometimes the library gets the new ones in, however because I’m a Serpent, I can’t take them home.” He explains.
“Ohhhh. Yeah that makes more sense than you actually doing homework.”
“Yeah. Who do you think I am?”
“Sooooo.” I start, taking out the History homework from my bag. “Where’s the rest of the gang?”
“Ermmm.” He says absentmindedly. “Toni is with Cheryl. As always.” He rolls his eyes making me giggle. “Fangs is helping Kevin with the drama department. And Jones? I dunno where Jones is. I saw him last period but he was acting weird.”
“Weird?”
“Yeah. Weird.”
“Care to expand?”
“Not really no.” He shakes his head. “I’m trying to read.”
“Ouch.” I placed a hand over my heart. “Don’t worry, I got the hint. I’ll shut up.” I added and he grinned at me.
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“Do you wanna ride home?” Sweet Pea asks as he stands up.
“Errr.” I stuttered. “Its fine. I have a bit more to do.”
“You sure?” He asks again and I nod slightly, sending him a soft smile. “Watch out Y/n. Your bordering on nerd territory.” He teases and I roll my eyes. He laughed as he walked to the front desk, handing the comic to the old lady that was looking him up and down.
“Ha. Ha.” I deadpan and he looks back, laughing softly.
“See ya.” He mock salutes before wandering out the library, leaving me alone...again.
5:25 finally rolled around and I dragged myself out of the library and down the dark corridor so I could hide for five minutes. Once I was sure that everyone left I grabbed my towel and wash bag and made my way to the showers in the basement. Whistling as I went. Sometimes its nice to fill the quiet, what’s not nice though, is when you hear somebody else whistling faintly.
“Oh shit.” I whispered and gripped the towel tighter to my body. Because that’s gonna save you from a serial killer. Okay. What would any normal person do in this situation. Well, I suppose no normal person would be living inside a school, so maybe that wasn’t the best thing to ask myself.
Right, I have three options. Go back to the supply closet I call home and hope to god that whoever this person or thing is, doesn’t need any cleaning supplies in the near future. Run far away from the school and sleep in the park until they go away. Or be brave and maybe a little stupid and face this school demon, head on. Maybe it was the fact that I had been living in the school for a few days, making me slightly delirious. Or maybe it was because I’d witnessed Sweet Pea reading for what felt like the first time in forever, but apparently I’m feeling brave, so toothbrush gripped tightly in one hand, and razor in the other, towel over the shoulder and wash bag tucked under my arm, I decide to investigate...very slowly. Until I figure out if whatever this things is, is a threat or not.
“Wait.” That tune is familiar. The whistling has turned into soft singing. “Is that Britney?” I ask myself, relaxing as I stop in the middle of the corridor. What kind of ghost/demon/killer sings Britney Spears while they’re showering in school?
Whoever is in the shower is not threatening, however this could all be one big ploy to brutally murder me. I grip the toothbrush tighter and slowly make my way forward, until I’m stood right in front of the shower curtain. Whoever this person is, is really getting into the chorus of ...Baby One More Time, making a smile replace the frown on my face. Okay, deep breath Y/n. You can do this. And if this is how you die, at least they’ll be a good soundtrack to go out with. Pulling the curtain back, I make eye contact with a very familiar Serpent and the two of us stand screaming for a few seconds.
“Jughead!?” I shout, my hand gripping the shower curtain tightly. The razor and wash bag have long been forgotten, failing to the floor as I opened the curtain, but the toothbrush is still gripped hard in my hand and I can’t help but think how unthreatening I would look if this was a serial killer and not just a fellow serpent.
“What the fuck!!!” He screams and squeezes the soap he was using as a microphone.
“Ahhhh. Holy shit! Cover yourself up.” I stutter and start to back up, my hands covering my eyes.
“Cover up?” He asks. “I’m in the shower!” He adds and grabs the shower curtain, hastily covering himself.
“What the hell are you doing here?” I ask, finally recovering from the shock. However I can’t help but bite my lip and the sight that was just before me. Jughead Jones in all of his glory. I mean, it’s not so bad.
“What am I doing here?” He asks sarcastically and I nod my head. “I’m having a fucking wedding, what does it look like.” He shouts, now more angry than anything else and I flinch at the tone.
“Sorry.” I mumble, hastily picking my stuff up from the floor and turning around. “Forget you saw me here, and I’ll forget I saw you. And I’m really sorry.” I ramble, my cheeks heating up. I make it a few steps forward before a wet hand is on my wrist pulling me back. I turn around, finding myself face to face with Jughead. My eyes trail down and my eyebrow quirks up. “I think you forgot something.” I whisper in his ear and he looks at me confused before looking down and blushing profusely.
“Can you pass me my towel please?” He asks quietly and I nod, an amused smile taking over my features. I pass him the towel that was hanging on a stall beside me and he hastily wraps himself up. “I’m sorry.” He apologizes and you shrug.
“It’s fine.”
“It’s not. I shouldn’t have snapped. I just got a...fright. I thought I was in some sort of re-enactment of Psycho.”
“I thought I was in a re-enactment of every teen horror film ever while I walked down the corridor.” I admit and the two of us laughed softly. “If you don’t mind me asking, what exactly are you doing here?”
“Family troubles. Me and my dad have been arguing recently so I decided to get away, give him some space.” He shrugs, a sad expression taking over his face. I frown sympathetically at him and place a hand on the top of his arm, giving it a soft squeeze.
“How long you been staying here?”
“A few weeks. I’ll probably go back soon.”
“Why didn’t you just stay with some friends. You have plenty?” I ask and he looks around the room shyly.
“I, err. I didn’t want to bother any of them.” He admits.
“Ah...I get that.” I nod and the two of us look around awkwardly. “Well, erm. I’ll let you get back to your shower. You still had suds in your hair and you need to finish the rest of your song.” I excuse myself and start to walk backwards. “I must say Jones, I didn’t have you down as a Britney fan.” I tease and he rolls his eyes.
“Wait!” He calls and I stop.
“Yeah?”
“Why are you here?” He asks and its now my turn to look away. The floor looks really appealing right now, so much so that I think I may be burning a hole into the tile. However, the intensity of Jughead’s stare is burning a hole in my head and I can’t take it for much longer. I suppose he told me why he’s here, I may as well give him the same.
“My mom and dad went...away...for a while.” I start, trying to piece together the right words. Its so much harder to say out loud, to another actual human being and the tears in my eyes are threatening to fall. However, I’m not gonna cry in front of a half naked Jughead Jones while the two of us stand in the schools bathroom. At least not today. “Schools been kicking my ass so I had to stop working at the Wyrm and well, I ended up missing the rent. So now I’m here. Home sweet home.” I try to play it off and it’s my turn for the sympathetic look, which for the record, is absolutely no help at all.
“Y/n...” He starts, his eyes softening as he looks at me out of pity. “I’m so so-”
“It’s fine.” I cut him off.
“Do you know when they’ll be back?”
“Who?” I ask, I’m only half listening now, there’s a lot of things going on in my mind right now, but the main thing is that Jughead is stood half naked in front of me. And I’d be lying if I said I’d never thought about this. I mean, maybe not in this context and he is totally fully naked, but, I mean its practically the same thing.
“Your parents.”
“Oh, I dunno. Probably soon. But until then it’s Riverdale High all the way!” I fake cheer and he laughs.
“Yep.” He agrees and raises his fist slightly. “Why didn’t you tell anyone?”
“I didn’t want to bother anyone.” I shrug.
“Ah.”
“Yeahhh.” I trail off and we look at each other. His eyes look so pretty in this light. And his hair is all floppy and curly an-
“Did you hear that?” He asks, panic evident in his voice and eyes.
“What?” I ask, but he grabs my wrist and pulls me into the shower cubicle.
“Jones! Ask a lady firs-”
“Shhh.” He places a hand over my mouth and my eyes widen in surprise. His arm is around my waist pulling me tightly against him and the dampness from his chest in making my t-shirt kinda wet. However my thoughts are quickly interrupted when the door to the bathroom opens and the two of us share a look.
“What the hell?” A man’s voice asks confused and I squeeze my eyes shut. If we’re caught like this, we’re dead for so many reasons. The two of us listen closely as the man picks up the things I dropped on the floor. He looks around, well I assume he does. He could be doing anything for all I know. And then he walks out, closing the door behind him and I let out a breath I didn’t know I was holding. The two of us stay in the position for a few minutes longer before I look between the two of us and pull apart (as much as I didn’t want to).
“Dammit.” I mutter as I open the shower curtain. “He stole my things. The only thing I have is my toothbrush.” Jughead laughs softly behind me and I turn to glare at him playfully. “And that was my good razor too...and towel!”
“You can always share mine.” Jughead suggests and I eye him suspiciously.
“What exactly are you proposing Jones?”
“That you can share my soap and shower gel...and shower.” He winks at the end making me snort, before blushing profusely. “You’re cute.” He laughs and I roll my eyes. “Are you coming?” He asks and holds the shower curtain open.
“Hopefully.” I reply, sending him a smirk and making my way back towards him and the shower. He turns it on and takes his towel off as I quickly undress. And soon the two of us are stood in front of each other, the hot water running over us as he looks at me with lust filled eyes. “Well, this is not how I imagined today ending.”
“Are you complaining?” He quirks an eyebrow.
“Absolutely not.” I shake my head and his lips are on mine in an instant. He pushes me backwards, his hands gripping my waist as my back hits the cold shower wall and I shiver against him. He pulls me closer to him, making me whimper at the feeling of pushing against me. My hands trail down his chest, while his fingers tangle in my hair and pulls softly. I stop just above where he needs me most and he pulls harder making me moan. The sound seems to travel straight to his dick as his semi, hardens against my thigh. My hand finds it and slowly starts to pump him up and down making him groan in my mouth.
“Fuck.” He moans softly, the wetness between my legs builds up and I smirk and move quicker. He pulls away and I pout, however he soon makes up for it, one hand plays with my nipples while the other travels down my stomach and stops just above my clit.
“Please.” I whimper and he gives me a lopsided grin before he starts to rub me, a finger dipping into my core making me buck my hips. He pulls out and away as quickly as he was in me and I whine, a pout taking over my features.
“Jump, pretty girl.” He whispers in my ear and I waste no time in obeying. Jumping and wrapping my legs around his hips while his arms hold the back of my thighs, pushing me against the shower wall again. He pulls away just a little in order to line himself up with my core, and then presses a kiss against my lips as he slides in slowly. We both moan at the feeling and his head leans against mine as he starts to move, slowly at first but the pace soon quickens until my back is hitting off the wall and his hands are gripping at my things, both hard enough to leave marks. “You feel so good around me.” He manages to make out between heavy breaths.
“Fuckkkk.” I moan loudly and he looks at me with an unreadable expression.
“So good baby girl.” He adds breathily.
“Faster.” I manage to pant out and he thrusts his hips harder and faster, one of the hands gripping the back of my thighs travels to my clit and he rubs hard figure-eights on it, making me scream. The sound of skin against skin mixes with both our moans and they echo against the tiles, which turns me on more.
“You close baby girl?” He asks, his bottom lip pulled between his teeth and I nod before smashing my lips against his.
“You’re so hot.” I pant and he giggles against my lips.
“Thats you baby.” His movements gradually increase before I moan loudly and scratch my nails down his back, my walls clenching around him as I cum. He follows quickly and drops my legs gently. I shake a little and use his shoulders to keep myself steady. The two of us catch our breath, the hot water running over us, and the only sound in the bathroom being the two of them mixed together. I can’t help but smile up at Jughead, who is already smiling back at me. We catch our breaths and actually start washing.
“Ya know.” I start and he looks at me intrigued. “Maybe living in school won’t be that bad.” I shrug and he laughs.
“Maybe not, no.” He agrees. “However if I knew this would happen I would have moved in ages ago.”
“I didn’t live here ages ago.” I remind him and he rolls his eyes as he pushes his head underwater.
“Yeah, I know.” He replies sarcastically and I stick my tongue out at him.
“Quit hogging the water.” I push him softly and he laughs.
“I’m not.” He defends and I raise an eyebrow at him. He laughs louder before moving out the way. “Here, let me.” He says, picking the shower gel up from the bathroom floor.
“Thanks.” I blush as he pours some on his hands before rubbing it into my scalp.
“Y/n?” He asks and I hum in acknowledgment. “When I move back in with my dad...if your parents aren’t back, you’re welcome to stay with me.”
“Thanks Juggy.” I reply sincerely and the two of us blush at the nickname. “However, I don’t know if I’m gonna get used to you singing Britney. Don’t get me wrong, I love Britney, she’s an icon. But you butchered her.” I tease and he pulls my hair playfully, however it has the opposite effect that he wanted, and I end up moaning softly. “Hey!” I turn around and glare at him. “Don’t start something you can’t finish.”
“Who says I can’t finish it?”
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I don’t understand why everyone here is mad about Brooke possibly being with CG when Vanessa has had been with several different guys since Brooke, ones who are way worse than CG (that Kameron guy). Is Brooke not allowed to be with other people but Vanessa is? I don’t understand why the reactions are different even if you don’t like the guy.
If you get mad at one of them because of clownery and scenarios you made up in your head, you need to take a step back and find a hobby. It's not normal to be frustrated at B/CG/V because we actually DON'T KNOW ANYTHING!! Remember y'all, clowning is not reality and speculations are not facts. I don't mind the clowning but some of you REALLY need to chill. Yikes 😬
I'm tired that some of you think B is the mean one for everything she does and that you treat V like a baby and her only personality trait is being a desperate ex. They deserve better and less judgemental fans. Sorry to say it like that but that's what some of you are 🤷🏼♀️. Acting as if you know them better than themselves when we probably only know less than 10% of what really goes on between them. Speculating is fine until you start judging someone's character and start hating them for it
I cant believe you all convinced yourselves that V and B were back together in some capacity to the point where people are reacting the way they currently are. I’m honestly shocked and somewhat disgusted at the way some people are handling this. At the end of the day, if B is happy then what the fuck else matters??
I love clowning when it's funny and doesn't do any harm but to judge B and be all "poor V" when we actually DON'T KNOW them outside of what we see, is NOT it. The libra thing was funny, B was making fun of herself and the branjie stans. Also, V seems to be doing just fine! She's just very busy with her tour. Liking B's posts after B opened the door with her tweet about their facetime call DOESN'T mean she's still in love. Like V said : it's not that deep! Y'all are to quick to judge and project
I think saying B lied about the reasons her realtionship with V and calling her a coward is unfair. People can change and grow (let's not forget they broke up more than a year ago!). Also, we aren't sure what it is with CG. If it's a fwb situation or an open relationship, those wouldn't even be options for V (we know she wants The Notebook) so if that's what works for B than it is what it is. Can we just be happy for B and V no matter what and stop always making it about the other?
To anon saying "I only feel this way because B has been very misleading" when B wasn't completely clear about her relationship with V? She was blunt at the reunion, she was blunt in her twitter/instagram post, she was blunt in her monologue at the branjie funeral. She was never misleading, people are just over analyzing everything and being delusional. And like B said after DXP when people tried to police her interactions with V: it's their friendship they will act as they please.
PEOPLE CALM THE FUCK DOWN.
Why does when B get in a relationship all hell breaks loose but when V already had a boyfriend and other flings the reactions aren’t as hateful ? Let them live their life. I hope that both of them will find happiness. And that’s that.
Honesty I’m happy for the Brooke bc now I can stop clowning these fools. I’m sure all’s fine with V too but I dunno I hope the sm break and eye roll wasn’t for this. Anyway, here’s one thing I’m thinking - remember how hot V looked at drag con post reunion? I really hope she brings sexy V to drag con, forgets about all these stupid boys, and just is hot hot hot for all the world to see! And they better play Diamonds by Normani and Meg for Vs drag con runway entrance thingy!!!!
B said about wanting freedom about a relationship that happened a year ago. She could be in a different place now. And from what we can see of the cg relationship it looks much more loose and free - thats probably exactly what she wanted and something vanjie couldnt or didnt want to give her. People can be attracted to each other and want different things from a relationship that arent compatible it's neither of their faults
To be fair to B she at no point has said that shes still interested in V romantically or sexually. She has only ever said theyre friends. We're the clowns making it mean more than it does. B is flirty with literally everyone as you'll know if you've ever seen him irl or at a meet and greet. It's his only way of interacting with the world
They're not dating, come on! They are just friends with benefits. I know this is a blog for clowning, but them dating doesn't make sense with what they have both been saying lately.
It was a picture but not an admission. He never said meet my new boo. Also it was a story not a post. It will be gone in 24 hrs!
Ya know what brooke lynn can do what she wants she grown. I'm not a fan of animal exploitation workers but S seems kinda sweet and if he makes B happy good. Just so long as next time vanessa find herself a new man brooke lynn don't be pulling no damn tricks. I'm not afraid to fight a giant.
People are very passionate about this whole thing. I have my own personal opinion and feeling on the topic but honestly I am too tired to get into it. I mean you can go through my blog and pretty much figure out what I think. For now we just sit back and see what happens. If anyone is personally affected by this and needs to talk my dms are always open. I just am going to be excited for Drag Con this weekend and hopefully getting some great, new drag content.
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Today while napping....
I had a very interesting dream where I was on some sort of stream with Chris Demarais, Michael Jones, Jeremy Dooley, and I think some other Roosterteeth people were there in the background? Anyway, I don't really remember what we were talking about on it but I guess the cameras were set up for bust shots, because I was there without pants. At one point I made a comment about someone's clothes and Michael was like "Man you have no room to talk, like what are YOU wearing on your legs? What is that??" And there was lots of laughter but it was towards the end of the stream and so I was like "It's nothing, I dunno what you're talking about! You're gonna make the audience think there's somehjng weird about me but this is completely normal!" And he was like "Yeah no, if you don't wanna explain thats fine but whatever is up woth you that's not normal" then looked at the camer and said "Just so you know, she's not normal, I dunno why we have her here" and then Chris was like "Hey now, it may be a luck thing or something" and Michael was like "Who's getting lucky with her?? Is it you?" And Chris and I were both backtracking with that and there was more laughter. After the stream ended, Jeremy asked if it was my fav pair of underwear and I was telling him how it was and I'd had them for years (???? What even dream-me?), and he askes if I was going commando and I was like what? So he explained that he has a lot of underwear that has holes where his balls are and be understands how uncomfortable chaffing can be because of that, so is it ever uncomfortable? And like no that's why I've had this pair for years they're super comfy.
And then Jeremy asked me to do him a favor, and it was to go to North Korea with him to visit his parents. I said yes and he was like "I didn't think you would say yes!" Ans Chris was nearby and was like "That is insane!" And I said "What's so crazy about it, I have the extra money for it and I've always wanted to go to an Asian country. I mean, I was aiming more for Japan, but this works" Then we set off for the airport without me even packing anything. We took like this subway to it, and met Gavin Free and Meg Turney there for it (they were going to North Korea for something else). While on the subway, we stood by this Korean chick and some white dude. They seemed to know eachother, and the white dude was talking about how the Korean chick was a legit prostitute and how she should be used to him coming on to her, and she was trying to say she wasn't. Eventually the guy stopped talking to her and started some convo with Meg and was getting uncomfortably close to her, until Gavin casually slid between their bodies ans stares the dude down. After we got off the Subway, I turned to Meg and was like "That's the best real life anime block save I've seen! He's good boyfriend material!" And she was like "Yeah I love when he does that it makes me feel so special. I just wish there was a way I could shout a phrase and he could do it faster" and I was like "Yeah but then you run the risk of turning him from thoughtful boyfriend to possessive boyfriend" and she was like "Yeah that's true" (glad that shit made sense to you dream-Meg because wha???). Then I grabbed her hand and declared that we HAD to talk anime.
The Airport we went to was like freakishly huge with a really, really long sidewalk up to it. So Meg started singing anime theme song mashups on the way up (she was really good) and I joined her, and we chatted about the shows and how Gavin never really listened to her about the shows on the way up. Jermey and Gavin were chatting about the new rules of flying in the background and how Trump was now making security keep a list of people who have tickets, and then another 'Trump-approved' list of people whi could fly without tickets. And how there's been a lot lf problems with it because anyone whi isn't white passing or part of the military are being put in waiting rooms before flieghts because of it, and some people have missed flieghts as a result. I'm thinking I'll be fine because I have two brother's in the miltary (nive use of foreshadowing, dream-brain). Finally we reach the airport, but Gavin and Meg split off because they parked their car here before work I guess and they needed to go put a sticker on it? So me and Jeremy start walking towards the security for this place, but we have to go all the way across the building for it. At one point we start to walk by a guy in a YouTube shirt and Jeremy goes "Watch this" and shouts "Hi I'm Jeremy Dooley!" And the guy just stares at him blankly. And I guess I have a YouTube channel, because I give him my username for it and he just nods at me. But then he does a doubke take and just stares at me and goes, "You were on Miles Luna's livestream!" And internally I was like "knew it" because appearantly we all knew it would be known as that even tho Miles wasn't on the livestream at all?? And I was like "yeah I am" as a passed him. But the dude followed us and was like "Are you dating him?" And I was like "No" and somehow I knew he would ask me out. Then the dude took of his shirt and said "Wanna date me?" And I was like "No thanks" and he was all "But why?" But then we were at the security gate so he left. There was a little old lady in front of us, and after giving her name to the agent he asked her what she did, who she was going to see, and a few other questions I couldn't hear and then told her she had to step aside and go to another desk. As this is happening, another security gaurd clears Jeremy. I get the security gaurd that just sent the old lady to the waitint room and now I'm not so sure I'll be fine because that old lady looked white af. So he takes my name and asks me how my day is and I say great and then he asks me if I like Harry Potter and I'm like "I love it! Its my favorite series" and he smiles at me and says that's nice and for a second I think he'll let me pass.....and then he sends me off to the side, to the same desk as rhe little old lady and I'm like shit. So I tell Jeremy I'll catch up to him. At this point I think its a good thing we showed uo three hours early. So I go to the desk and the guy there calls me something completely different, so I correct him, and then he's like "Okay i think I may see you here but we have to check a few things" and sends me to the side room, which is up some escalators that go down instead of up. The little old lady is at the escalators and she's bitching about how she's too old for this but goes up there anyway. Once we're in the room we're told to take off our shoes and put on provided slippers for some reason. The room is PACKED for some reason. I'm confused because it seems to be a very mixed group, until I hear someone talking about hiw J.K. Rowling is doing an event in North Korea a few hours after the flight lands and everyone flying out of the U.S. for past events similar to it have had the same issues and some even missed their flights. And I realize they're not just targetting POC but Harry Potter fans too for some reason, and I got caught up in it because I got my ticket last minute.
So I sit there for a bit, fuming because its bullshit. Then I decide to act like my name is called, and I go down the escalator and manage to get past the ticket gate cuz the room is behind the security check but there's no gaurds outside it. I go to one of those moving floor things, thinking it will take me to my gate, but there's like three of them and they're all color coded. Turns out there actually for baggage and halfway though it I realize this and try to get off, but then a different gaurd spots me doing this. I tell the gaurd this is my first time at this airport and he explains to me what luggage each belt is supposed to be for. So I leave my bag and jacket on the belts, and he leads me to a different belt. He explains to me that this is for travellers and it will incase me in a protective 'film' for travelling but there's no one else there, just these weird circular things going on these belts and encasing them in what looks like plastic, and I turned to him and go "what the hell??" And he just looks at me and is like "What do you think that is?" And I say "I think its a vacuum plastic machine and you're trying to kill me!" And he's all "I know you didn't pass the security check" and starts on the rant about people like me who break the rules result in people being fired, and he knows Trumps regulations are bullshit but its still not fair for me to do this, so I deserve to die. At this point a different gaurd appears with a piece of paper. The gaurd I'm talking to looks at it, pales, and stammers out an apology to me and says I can go, but I have to go to a specific restaurant in the food court first to talk to some doctor. And I'm like fine, I still have 2 hours till my flight anyway.
But as I'm heading out I hear the security gaurd ask the second gaurd how long I have left, and the second gaurd say "We really don't know" and now I'm creeped out but I hope it has something to do with my anaemia and its nothing series. So I show up at the food court and spot the doctor, and as I approach him he seems very upset so I'm like "what's wrong?" And he says "I lost my 50th gold coin! That was the last coin I needed for the collection and I lost it!" And somehow I know the airport is doing a thing where if you collect like 100 gold coins scattered around the airpirt you get a prize. And I'm thinking this doctor is too old for this, and go to sit down. But as I do I spit a gold coin with the number 50 on it. So I pick it up and say to the doctor "Here, I think this is yours" and he takes it from me and suddenly theres fireworks and confetti everywhere as he celebrates. Then the dream ends.
Still don't know what I was dying from. Also didn't even get to see dream-Korea.
#north korea#rooster teeth#roosterteeth#jeremy dooley#chris damarais#miles luna#gavin free#meg turney#michael jones#my dreams
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A Scathing Review of Descendants 2
Confession: It’s not like I hated this movie, I was just kinda frustrated and had to rant about it? No hate if you really loved this movie. Also this review has Swears™ and is completely 100% Unedited™. Sorry. Also, spoilers are here so that’s fun.
To preface this review, I don’t think I’m this film’s target audience. That is to say, I’m old enough to be embarrassed by current affairs and the state of my bank account. But I’ve always been into that good good fairy tale shit, so when I heard Disney was making a kids movie about some of their most popular (and profitable) characters, I went, “seems legit,” ignored the similarities to Mattel’s “Ever After High” franchise (I’m a sucker for fairy tale shit okay and this stuff’s free on Youtube) and hunkered down to watch. Descendants The First was… not what I’d call good per se, but it was good enough. It was a little dull, the costumes oozed kitsch that made my eyes really want to cry, and every supposedly “well known” character from Disney’s pantheon seemed a little “off” (which wasn’t really anyone’s fault, since I was expecting everyone to look like a cartoon), but ultimately it was competent. There was a plot, the pacing was decent, and there were a couple bops thrown in, since the director of Descendants also did High School Musical. This is an assessment of the first Descendants movie that I think is valid, mainly because I’ve watched a couple of reviews on film theory on Youtube, meaning that I’m a fucking expert now I guess.
But we ain’t here to talk about Descendants the first. We’re here to talk about it’s sequel, Descendants 2. Oh ho ho. Descendants 2.
Lemme start with some good stuff: the outfits definitely got a lot better, the new characters introduced are pretty cool (Uma, daughter of Ursula, and Harry Hook, self explanatory. I don't really fuck with Gil though? He’s okay I just don’t really care about him), and there are still some mf’ing bops (mainly, Uma’s intro number “What’s My Name”, and that other one where the kids try to teach Ben how to stop being so fucking white I forgot what it’s called but whatever). I understand also why a lot of people are saying this movie is the better of the two Descendants films. It’s got some good character development, and, according to some review I saw online, it’s “darker” than the first film. I don’t really remember the first film all that well so I guess I have to go along with that. But I still have major beef with the second film so here we fucking go:
DESCENDANTS 2 MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
Not as a standalone movie, not in the context of the movie’s universe, not in like, any scenario ever.
So like first of all: the whole point of the first movie was that Prince Ben, aka generic blonde love interest (GBLI), decides that the villain kids, or VKs, as they call themselves (I know, cringe barf), deserve a chance. So, despite the advice of like, everyone, he invites the kids of Maleficent, Jafar, the Evil Queen, and Cruella de Vil (??? Why the fuck is she here she doesn’t even have any magical powers that need to be contained??? They could have let her kid get adopted by someone instead of leaving him to rot on Evil McEvil Islandsville???) to come to his high school (another thing: is he the prince of the school, or the prince of the whole country?? Because we literally never see anything not within walking distance of this fucking prep school. Is there an Auradon public school where the kids of like… side characters go?) to go hang at his school. And surprisingly (to no one in the audience), they turn out to be Productive Members of Society™ who were just Misunderstood™ (after an adjustment period where they fuck everything up for a while). At the beginning of the movie, Prince GBLI turns into King GBLI. Why? I don’t fucking know. His parents are still alive AND his dad is only like… 50? At most? Why the fuck is he retiring so early??? In this economy? My dad’s like pushing 60 and still working??? What kinda bourgeoisie fuckery is this?
So. Anyway.
What is King GBLI doing with his time?
Is he improving infrastructure? Attending to foreign affairs? Or maybe, I dunno, extending his villain kid outreach program past 4 fucking people?
No. This bitch plans a party. Specifically, he plans fairy tale character prom, or “Cotillion.” Whatever.
So of course, some villain kids are (understandably) pissed about being forgotten. Specifically, one kid named Uma, played by China Anne McClain. Uma is a fucking queen. She’s cool. I like her and her pal Harry. Not Gil though. He’s the son of Gaston and I don’t really get why he’s there. But he’s okay I guess. But anyway, like a muthafucking communist boss, she’s like “Imma overthrow the bourgeoisie!” So she plans to get the fairy godmother’s magic McGuffin wand so she can reverse the social hierarchy and bring justice to the oppressed. I fuck with that. It’s understandable. Basically, King GBLI decided to pick a bunch of random villains to bring to the prep school that he's somehow king of, and forgot about literally everyone else. What a dick.
But meanwhile, King GBLI’s girlfriend Mal, the “hero” of our story (jk, it’s Uma. I love Uma) decides that she’s had ENOUGH of playing perfect girlfriend and wants to go back to being villainous Maleficent’s daughter again. So she packs up her shit, including her own personal McGuffin, her magic spell book that she somehow can’t perform magic without (did she not think to memorize the spells she uses really often or is that book the source of all her power? Whatever, the movie never fucking explains this so I won’t even try), and fucks on off to Evil McEvilsville (or the “Isle of the Lost”. Whatever.) Here, she gets a dramatic dye job and basically does whatever the fuck she wants while her friends worry about her.
Her friends find out she’s missing and follow her to the isle, taking the most inconspicuous vehicle they can find: a magic barrier breaking limousine. Sorry, did I say most inconspicuous? I meant least inconspicuous. Then, Uma kidnaps GBLI and is like, “hey. You forgot about us and thats not cool.” To which he’s like, “well I remember you now so that’s like, totally enough to make you good now, right?” To which she, understandably, is like, Bitch No. SO THEN, she tell Mal that if she ever wants to see GBLI again, she has to bring her fairy godmother’s Magic McGuffin™. The Gang™ tricks her with a 3D printed wand (what fucking century does this movie take place in I’m confused), and fucks off back to their super cool party. BUT WAIT! MAL HAS LEFT HER MCGUFFIN SPELL BOOK ON THE ISLAND! WHAT HAPPENS NOOOOOOWWW????
This is where the movie really starts to piss me the fuck off. You see, in film theory, there’s a little thing called “planting and payoff.” Basically, when the camera focusses on a specific object in detail, you expect to see that shit pop up later on. Example: if you see some guy holding a suitcase and then the camera pans to the suitcase, you expect it to be germane to the plot later on. So the assumption with Descendants 2 is: Uma finds Mal’s spell book and confronts her at the party thing. She then uses Mal’s only source of power against her. Since Mal has never been seen doing any magic without her spell book, she would now be powerless and have to find a way to do magic without it through an 11th hour power up or else use her wits and the help of her friends to retrieve her spell book and save the day. Instead, Uma seduces (I know it’s a kid’s movie so there’s no actual seducing but I dunno what else to call it) GBLI through a spell that she did NOT get from the spell book. Which Mal breaks easily with true love’s kiss, because this is a fairy tale movie. Then, Uma kinda uses her magic necklace (that’s here now) to grow huge and splash the prom boat. Lame. My prom was also on a boat. Double lame. And everyone on the boat acts super scared because now there’s water in it!… but no like holes, so the deck’s just a little wet and maybe the boat tilts a little. Everyone just kinda stands on the deck instead of getting below deck like a group of normal people and acts surprised that it’s tilting back and forth. No shit buddy! There’s a giant tentacle lady who’s angry at you in the water! What did you think was going to happen? Then Mal fucking TURNS INTO A DRAGON for some reason. And she fights Uma by blowing fire at her. In the middle of the ocean. Which has like, no effect because Mal just really really likes aiming like, three feet in front of Uma into the water. And water kinda does this thing where it puts out fire? I dunno maybe she should work on aiming better or something or find something more useful to transform into. Anyway, GBLI jumps into the water like an IDIOT and is like “Why can’t we be friends?” To which Uma is like, “what the fuck man.” Understandable. But then she just, like
GOES AWAY?
My girl just decides to fucking leave for some reason what the fuck she could have easily won whatever the fuck that battle was and 5 minutes in she just WALKS AWAY??? This whole battle scene just savors of anti-climax. Kinda like a faked orgasm. And then they FIND MAL’S SPELL BOOK BELOW THE DECK??? AFTER EVERYTHING IS OVER??? WHAT THE FUCK??? Y’all lead me to believe it’s a salient plot point and now this shit? And then Mal decides to give her book to a museum because it’s “too dangerous.” What the fuck? No one in this movie did anything remotely dangerous with that fucking book? And then GBLI has obviously learned his lesson. Because he decides to admit one (1, uno, yi, une) more villain kid to the prep school. Because one of the other villain kids, Evie (who I kinda overlook in this review even though I kinda like her), literally asks him point blank. And then everyone dances in the rain like they haven’t learned an important lesson about social class and what the lack of opportunities to underprivileged youths can mean for society.
Fuck.
#descendants 2#descendants#uma#i'm sorry if you liked this movie?#i know a lot of people did#i just#have a lot of feelings about it#spoilers
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I was gonna (finally) continue playing Dream Daddy, and that just made me think.. does anyone else remember.. I think it was ‘Ahego Academy’?
*googles* Okay, Asagao is how its spelled, alright oops.
But like.. the Normal Boots dating sim, whatever it is??
Wasn’t that such a WEIRD THING?
I know that Dream Daddy isn’t really made by the game grumps alone, they just published it and supported it and helped out. And it was obviously never intended to be an actual ‘date the game grumps’, so I dunno why it even reminded me of asagao but like...
Still I kinda see it as a success story of what Asagao failed to be. Like.. in an abstract sense, as a game licensed by some famous youtubers.
Cos like.. Asagao was so WEIRD because it.. marketed itself as a normalboots dating sim, was so OVERWHELMINGLY buried in normalboots licensing, yet then didnt really deliver on the normalboots part.
All the characters aren’t really the members of normalboots?? Like, they have their names and vaguely similar appearances but then their personalities are just various standard anime tropes with barely any resembelance beyond like.. catch phrase in-jokes and one guy has a robot bird.
And without that... like.. its really just... any other generic ‘trying too hard to be fake japanese based on anime alone’ western VN game. Even more generic its a high school one...
And its so WEIRD seeing these half-assed high school au versions of everyone! Why do they still have full giant beards?? Actually, why did they even make the decision to have the protagonist be underage and like.. reimagine everyone else underage too? Wouldnt it be simpler to just have the protag be someone in college dating the actual real normalboots members, without the ‘reimagining’ having to go so far that they barely resemble the original?
It honestly feels like some sort of other game that got a weird sponsored makeover at the last second. I don’t know the real history behind it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case? like, did normalboots actually make this game themselves or was it similar to dream daddy?
cos thats what I mean about the comparison. Dream Daddy is a project published, supported and even voiceacted by the game grumps, its an official Game Grumps Games (tm) Game, but they weren’t really over the top and restrictive about getting their license on it. Honestly you wouldn’t even know it was published by them if not for the big PUBLISHED BY THEM sticker on the title screen and like.. recognising one voiceactor or one or two little affectionate visual gags to running jokes from the show.
Its really just an unrelated game that these youtubers really liked and decided to support. And Asagao feels like it was also one of those, I’d be surprised if it wasn’t! Like, it would be an extra double fail if it was made by the normalboots club themselves and somehow failed to contain very much of them. (Nah, I mean, its not that bad, I don’t HATE it and I dont think it was unsuccessful or anything, it just wasnt what I expected...)
Also like... Dream Daddy just seems so much like the GGs were actually passionate about it? It doesnt seem like a cash grab. It wasn’t excessively plugged on their videos and like.. when people were like ‘oh the game grumps are making a game’, the game grumps themselves tweeted to clarify the actual writers and programmers, and were constantly supporting them through the game’s troublesome release schedule issues.
And I dunno, I guess it just raised my opinion of the GGs a lot, and also because this is a really great and inclusive gay dating sim with so much genuine soul in it. I actually initially got scared away from buying it just because it was ‘a Game Grumps Games (tm) Game’, when it was first announced I was worried it would be some sort of joke project. And like.. when it was clarified it was a gay game in particular, i was DOUBLE worried it was gonna have some bigoted jokes n shit, like holy hell! And like even if it wasn’t offensive, it’d probably be a JOKE, right? I mean they do so many jokes about gay flirting and stuff on the show.
But like.. they actually went and proved that they’re like The Only People On Goddamn Youtube that GENUINELY are ‘just making jokes’ and do really care about their LGBTQ fans. (Cos seriously who expected this to even have transgender representation too??? I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANOTHER GAY DATING SIM THAT INCLUDES TRANS CHARACTERS, EVER )
its like.. this is why I roll my goddamn eyes at shit like the jontron and pewdiepie controversies. they never do anything to genuinely apologise for what they do, and they CERTAINLY dont do anything to prove that they’re not bigoted! All their apologies are like ‘no stop yelling at me but also let me go back to continuing to act exactly the same every day’. And like.. when have they ever really done anything to aknowledge those parts of their fandom even exist, let alone given a huge shoutout to minority fans LET ALONE supported the release of a WHOLE GAME about gay and trans men AND VOICEACTED IT.
I mean obviously they aren’t perfect, and I’m still uncomfortable with those kinds of jokes and I don’t find them funny, but still its reassuring to finally know what these guys actually feel about queer people, yknow? And it doesn’t feel like a shoehorned-in fake effort or anything, they were really involved in making the game and supporting it and like.. either they got the feels about the lines they were voiceacting or they’re just REALLY good actors, yo. I didnt know they could do really serious scenes too?? i didn’t know this was even gonna HAVE serious scenes, i thought it’d be one giant horrible gay joke aimed at the lowest common denominator of their fans, instead of such a genuine project aimed at the fans who feel kinda left out.
So like.. yeah. I ended up starting to watch more game grumps again after this game came out. Good job, guys.
(Tho seriously still I would prefer less of the lowest common denominator jokes, or at least like try and make more of a statement about like.. the OTHER minorities you joke about, too. The audience legit cannot tell whether you’re joking or you really believe that shit, considering how many other youtubers are doing legit bigoted stuff like every damn week nowadays.)
#blunni thoughts#srsly like why is prowhatsitface the prince archetype#why is this just a generic shoujo anime written by white people#not that i dont like playing school dating sim things but only when they have a bit of a twist on the genre#or like... lucky rabbit reflex was pretty much a paint by numbers school dating sim but it was refreshing for#being set in a british school and like.. being 100% honest about being made in europe not japan#its not like every school dating sim NEEDS to be japanese!#but like AA is just.. a very bland take on the concept#doesnt do anything i havent played before#and the gimmick of having vague resembelance to some youtubers doesnt really help#its not ENOUGH resembelance that it can make it interesting to someone who doesnt like the genre normally#also like of course now its double awkward to play since jontron turned into a turd and we're all wondering why we ever liked him#it'd be sad if the same thing happened to other normalboots members and this game was just like a monument to lost friends#at least im fairly confident PBG wont ever be suddenly revealed as evil! he's my fave youtuber at the moment cos he#pretty usually never uses any sort of bigoted jokes at all#also he's just an adorable goofball and i like his sense of humour#then again once upon a time i thought jontron was too goofy to be anything other than innocent...#man this is why following celebrities is such a mess#you never know what anyone's really like
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u too answer all those questions w todd bicht
fuckin hell lesly
OK HERE GOES
1: their voice
uhh THIS IS SO HARD TO EXPLAIN he talks very loudly?? like his normal speaking voice is just naturally very loud… kinda a ragged voice?? he kinda talks very.. lazily?? like drops the “g” in words ending thing “ing” yno??? but he also puts emphasis on random syllables ?? idk how to explain hfkdfkl
2: their smilehe has a crooked smile, very smug looking even when he’s not trying to be tbh, almost looking kinda mocking or making fun of you even when he’s not. but u will know if he’s being genuine, he has a nice laugh too.
3: their greatest achievementhmmmm well this depends on a lot of things but i guess its the little things.. being able to support himself without anyone elses help is one.
4: their insecurities theres a lot but ill try not to get Too Deep with this 1…. i guess he’s kinda insecure in general, not in an appearance way, but in his personality and the way he handles things, the shit he gets himself into, he’s not super proud of it, but purposefully acts confident so that ppl wont realize. he is insecure about the huge burn scar he has, too…
5: their shortcomingsi could write an essay if i wanted to, god. everything??????????
6: how they deal with griefhe doesnt. drinks, i guess. ignores it???
7: how they like to dresshe doesnt give a fuck. wears the same brown leather jacket all the time. plain white v-neck.. flannel shirts that are wrinkled and havent been washed in like 3 days… ripped jeans… plain stuff
8: what they like to eatuhhh hes not picky but he likes italian food
9: their themedunno what this means lul
10: their fashion sensetodd doesnt know what that is
11: their family lifebad
12: their romantic lifealso very bad. 13: their embarrassing memory from years agoevery memory he has is embarrassing. hes embarrassing.14: how they react to burning their tongue on fooda very loud, “SHIT”15: how they react to a brainfreezeputs his head in his hands and complains constantly til it goes away16: their dreams1. have a good job2. finally go to college3. own a very large tv4. be rich17: their ambitions1. be a better person2. stop drinking and smoking so much, dammit18: how they sleephe actually sleeps very still, doesnt move that much. usually hugs his pillow19: their reaction to betrayalhmm this depends but in general he would just be pissed more than anything, he wouldnt be sad or anything at all if u werent rly close to him, honestly his attitude would b “im not surprised bc i suck but fuck you”20: their reaction to a mystery love lettervery blushy, would act like he wasnt surprised that he got a love letter at all, (he is very surprised) probably bothers everyone he knows and asks them if they wrote it, (as if theyd tell him) would say stuff like, “c’mon, you sent me this, right? i knew you were obsessed with me.” 21: how they react to paindepends, but generally he’d get mad.22: what they’re like on two hours of sleepwhat are you talking about, thats normal
23: how they act when they’re sickVERY DRAMATIC…. complains constantly… acts very self pitying just to get people to do shit for him24: what motivates themhis friends25: why you enjoy themuhh well ive had him as my oc for like. YEARS, and i think he’s just very different from me so i think its fun to write him. you grow attached to ur characters once u have had them for as long as i have, and he’s just more developed than my other ocs
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January 10th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on January 10th, 2019, from 5PM - 7PM PST. The chat focused on Chasing Little Lights by Evelyn Shi.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Chasing Little Lights by Evelyn Shi~! (http://www.cllcomic.com/)
Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
my favorite scene so far is probably...well okay its not really a scene so much as a moment in a scene. but when soren is walking around with valentin and noticing that valentin already has like 1 billion friends. i can just severely relate to soren in that moment. it has some fantastic facial expression and i just love the panel framing too. theres kind of this sense of isolation whenever you see valentin interact. and even though soren is there, you get this sense he is the one out of place. and i just really think the visual aspects alone express that kind of loner thing he has going on
eleviken
haha hi! i'm the creator of Chasing Little Lights and i'll stick around here for a bit!
RebelVampire
glad to have you, @eleviken ~!
eleviken
i'm really glad you took note of that scene! i wanted to capture their different personalities - they are friends and get closer as the comic progresses, but soren is quite shy and valentin is a classic extrovert! i think valentin doesn't intend to single out people sometimes but he can give off that vibe
RebelVampire
actually honestly i really love valentin and soren's interactions. theyre very different people, and usually when you have an extrovert and an introvert they kind of butt heads. but nah, in this case valentin is like "hey buddy lets get bubble tea" and to me thats just super refreshing to see.
another scene i really like was the fencing scene. it played out exactly how i imagined it would: elena got her arrogant butt beaten by someone with infinite more years experience. but what i like more is that she doesnt expect this. instead to retreats further into her belief that she just wasnt on her a-game. cause i feel this is a moment that is true to how a real person would act.
and i also like how it preps for future drama
eleviken
that's great!! yeah i wanted valentin to be a good hearted person inside, even if he gives off an absentmindedly popular vibe! but of course there will be fights between the characters>:)
mhm! for me the fencing scene got quite tedious actually, as i wanted to have the action play out in maybe a few weeks, rather than dragging on for over a month. but i can only make a page per week with school and all, so i'm glad you enjoyed that!
all the characters are good people despite their flaws- elena's is arrogance obviously. we'll see how her character growth plays out in the future!
RebelVampire
yeah theres no doubt in my mind theyre good people. but i love all their flaws because theyre poignant and feel super realistic. not to mention i really enjoy a lot of the elements that stress them out cause to a degree it helps to make them feel their age.
eleviken
mhm, in future chapters - especially chapter 4, which is coming up soon, there will be more dramatic/challenging obstacles in the plot that will test their innocence as kids
i wanted to emphasize the coming of age aspect in the story because some challenges force you to grow up
RebelVampire
exactly what im hoping for. cause these kids are def in a situation where their innocence is gonna be tested. what with all the air pollution.
this is not s etting of happiness
K.E. Karlsen
yeah thats a theme i like seeing in stories and i can definitely see it happening in yours, whatever may happen
can i ask where you got the idea of a setting with air pollution sickness?
mathtans
The little one is in bed for the moment, but I might have to leave unexpectedly. ^.^
Rebel - I kind of liked that scene with Valentin having all the friends, but I think what I liked more was kind of the follow-up, when Kasen sees Soren with Valentin and thinks, geez, that guy's already got a friend. Kind of a perspective shift.
eleviken
i live in Shanghai, China, and air pollution has been a pretty big issue here! it has gotten better over the past few years but it's still very polluted. air pollution is also quite bad in areas like mongolia and india and other parts of asia
mathtans
Nice closer to Chapter 2 also.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 2. The comic’s setting is one where air pollution can be rampant enough to cause a fatal sickness called contamina. Given Valentin’s blood-filled coughing, do you believe he has contracted contamina? Why do you believe he is so intent on hiding his symptoms, especially from Elena? If Valentin does have contamina, do you believe he’d come to accept it or continue to live in denial? Whether he has contamina or not, how do you believe the others will react to finding out about the coughing? Overall, do you think Valentin’s health problems will change the group’s opinions on how normalized the air pollution is? How might this change their future goals?
mathtans
Characters need flaws, or it's boring.
eleviken
mathtans - to add on i think soren and kasen are more similar in personality than elena and val, defnitely! but they face very different challenges, so i think it makes them different in that way too:))
i am also a high school student! so i think CLL is at least semi-autobiographical in many ways
mathtans
Truth, probably makes sense that the siblings are a bit alike too.
eleviken
on question 2 - i won't give away too much
mathtans
I've been reading most of your little author notes btw eleviken. I think it's very cool that you're using your location as a setting. (Also, your field trip to Mongolia sounds really interesting, possibly more interesting than it was, I dunno.)
eleviken
but of course val will eventually be forced to face the issue
mathtans
I think Valentin is hiding the symptoms for a couple reasons. One, if people start talking about it, that makes it "real" and harder to deny to himself. Second, since his parents died due to pollution, he doesn't want his sister to have to go through the same kind of thing again.
eleviken
what really!!! i love leaving the author notes as a record to what i'm up to that week, but i didn't expect too many people to take note! my trip was a culture/service trip and it was definitely interesting, as it was quite different from the big city life in Shanghai
RebelVampire
you mean val doesnt just gain immortality and thus is rewarded for his denial?
XD
eleviken
Maybe val /is/ an immortal!
RebelVampire
see
confirmed
no problems here
O_O;;;;;
mathtans
I wonder if on some level, like subconsciously, Valentin is hoping for a breakthrough that helps out his own health. And Elena's dismissal of his attempts at research may not be helping with that (though I get why she does it).
Valentin - There can be only one.
eleviken: Yup, I'm one of those readers who tends to check out Q&As and Author Notes and stuff. In particular I was interested because I've never been to China or anywhere in the far East. Cool!
(I'm also a high school teacher, so there's that side of me, pleased to see students doing creative things. )
RebelVampire
i honestly feel the denial is more for valentin's sake than elena's sake. because hes what, 14? 14 is not the age where youre ready to accept mortality. 14 is the age where you believe youre super invincible and nothing ever bad will happen to you ever. can do whatever you want for you are the immortal one. and to accept he has contamina is to accept that whatever he had planned in his future is now kaput. and i just dont think hes ready for that, thus the hiding.
not to mention denial is the first stage of the 5 stages of grief
eleviken
valentin is definitely an optimist, and as the creator it even makes /me/ sad to see (or make lol) him suffer. he's definitely holding out hope for a miracle about his health, whether it turns out to be contamina or not. he is definitely at a point of denial, by filling his life with fun and his new friends to forget about the problem!
mathtans
Oh, the denial is probably more for his sake, you're right. The not telling might be for Elena's sake a bit though.
eleviken
mathtans - no way, that's amazing! Thank you for teaching, it's definitely hard work!
mathtans
Valentin is kind of the type to throw caution to the wind too, like I don't know the specifics of the disease, but he wanders around without a mask like that won't make the problem get worse faster or something.
Oh, thank you eleviken.
RebelVampire
eh i feel that the hiding it from others goes along with hiding it from himself. cause i get more the impression hes hiding it from the others to protect himself more than to protect the others. cause if he told elena, shes going to make a fuss and treat him like hes dying. and he cant very well live in denial about dying if everyone treats him like hes dying.
mathtans
That's a good point too, Rebel. (Who knows what's going on in his head!)
RebelVampire
although im sure there isnt no element about protecting elena cause of what happened to their parents. i just think self preservation is the overriding factor
eleviken
val and elena definitely have the petty sibling dynamic, but with their parents gone they are also looking out for each other. elena isn't good at expressing her emotions, though, so it's not directly stated that she's protective! i think part of his not-wearing-a-mask-stupidity is denial as well. as someone who's inclined to be happy, Val really wants to hold on to that happiness!
mathtans
Maybe Soren will come up with the cure. Can't kick him out of school if he does that.
eleviken
Ah soren's grade issue is quite important too! i think the pressure to achieve perfect grades is a reality for many students, and i especially see it at my school.
RebelVampire
although tbh i get the hint of a stigma? like at least that guy in the bathroom was kind of...apprehensive when he thought valentin might have contamina. even tho its established contamina is not contagious, its kind of got the cancer affect it seems. where everyone is like eww gross stay away from me sick person. and for an extrovert like valentin, that would probably be devastating. to be avoided because of something like being sick.
mathtans
Speaking as a teacher, I feel like society (well, North American society at least) is starting to put way too much emphasis on grades, and not enough emphasis on, y'know, actually learning stuff. Students tend to ask me "how can I get an 80%" not "how can I understand this unit better".
Rebel: Good point. It's said to not be contagious, but if people think that only poorer types who can't afford to replace their masks get the disease, that might be part of it.
eleviken
that's definitely very true at my school - as an asian school with an american system, the pressure to get 4.0s, have extracurriculars, and get into ivies is supersupersuper high. i'm under that pressure myself!
RebelVampire
haha that emphasis on grades over learning has been in the us for a looooong time. but now you have helicopter parents so a good portion of teachers in the us are just giving the grades anyway. because administration wont back the teachers up in the face of angry parents.
but i digress.
eleviken
mathtans - i'm going to admit i never thought about the "poorer people" part, that's very smart!
mathtans
You never know what will be read into things, feel free to run with it.
Yeah, it's not as bad here in Canada, but we still have some standardized testing. Anyway.
Hope you're able to weather the pressure, eleviken. The fact that you can keep up with a comic shows pretty good time management skills.
RebelVampire
i definitely feel that valentin's dilemma will make all the kids confront the air pollution. especially elena cause seeing another person she loves get contamina has to make her confront the idea that air pollution is bad and they shouldnt just go "nah its fine and normal were kids"
eleviken
thanks mathtans! i'm managing to keep up :))
i think high school can definitely be a bubble from real-world issues, and val's problem is forcing him to face the real world. that's a big coming of age part!
RebelVampire
yeah and i definitely love that about this story. that theres this whole conflict and theme of the child bubble world vs the actual world with all its huge problems that are overwhelming to deal with
mathtans
It's one of those things too where, if you see it every day, it just becomes normal. Why confront something that's normal? Whereas for the transfer students, it's not a normal thing, so maybe they can help with that.
Superjustinbros
peeks in
eleviken
hi!
mathtans
Good point, eleviken.
Superjustinbros
Hello there~
Just thought I'd drop in till the end
and this comic of yours is pretty interesting, @eleviken
eleviken
speaking of that, i am heading to class! i will still be here for the most part, though. :))
thanks!
Superjustinbros
You're welcome! Kudos too for representing all these different countries
(And shoutouts to Soren's hair)
RebelVampire
hey super~!
Superjustinbros
Hi Rebel!
RebelVampire
good luck in class, eleviken!
Superjustinbros
Secodned!
RebelVampire
and thats also true math. i definitely get that impression from val and elena
mathtans
All the best with classes!
RebelVampire
that theyre just so used to it they cant even fathom what clean air is like even
too normal
just everyday life
mathtans
Yeah, the choice to have a bunch of countries was cool. I like the little flags in the dialogue bubbles.
RebelVampire
although speaking of normalization though, i really loved that dialogue piece where kasen was saying "did you hear about that celebrity who died of contamina" to elena and elena just said what a shame i liked their music.
like man
mathtans
I'm also impressed that Valentin can already speak 5 languages.
RebelVampire
thats great characterization on how they view the world
yeah
valentin dying is a tragedy
dawgofdawgness
Is this still going? For CLL
mathtans
Rebel - Great point there.
RebelVampire
cause he seems super smart
yes it is~!
we still have another hour left
eleviken
DAWG!!! HEY!!!
dawgofdawgness
HALLO
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. Kasen and Soren are both characters who have to deal with academic and parental pressure for various reasons. Do you believe Soren will be able to maintain a 3.5 grade average? Or, do you think even with the help of the others he’ll continue to struggle and fall behind? Whether he fails or succeeds, do you believe the school will continue to honor their scholarship agreement? In the long run, do you believe Soren will be able to help pull his family out of poverty with his potential academic success? Kasen, being the headmaster’s daughter, has to deal with similar pressures. Do you believe that Kasen will be able to convince her father to let her go to art school? How might she accomplish this? Alternatively, do you believe she’ll give into her father’s reasoning? Lastly, how might these similar struggles help or hurt the groups’ relationships with each other?
dawgofdawgness
I saw your wall post lmao
eleviken
rebel - ngl i added that dialogue in later, probably about a year into the comic. i really wanted to emphasize the air pollution part!
dawgofdawgness
I thiiiiink that Soren is gonna have to make some sort of sacrifice to maintain his GPA
eleviken
ok i love these questions! i won't spoil but it's great to see this discussion
dawgofdawgness
I think what's keeping Sore n back is his self confidence lol, that's one of the things about his character - he's always putting himself down and getting really anxious about everything
Superjustinbros
That's pretty much what happens at all these CTP's
dawgofdawgness
and Kasen , she's a bright student but needs to be pushed - what's holding her back, I think, is inexperience
mathtans
Just want to add, I think all the characters have parental issues, even the other two mains because of how their parents passed on. It's an interesting theme.
Superjustinbros
That's sad.
eleviken
yeah! kasen is quite smart, but she doesn't want to ~try~ at school because she wants to do art. as a creator i think she still should to an extent, but the pressure from her father is quite high
Superjustinbros
I can relate to that so much
dawgofdawgness
oooh that's relatable
mathtans
Dawg: Yeah, I'm reminded of the "reading difficulties" thing that was alluded to, and how the book he was reading at one point said "you're going to fail" or words to that effect. So definite self confidence issues. I wonder if Soren does have some kind of learning disability though, like dyslexia or something? Or maybe just has trouble with English, is better with German.
eleviken
me too! i don't have plans to go to art school, but the pressure to do well is quite high
dawgofdawgness
ohhh right yeah
Superjustinbros
I was good in school but lots of times I would just zone out and think of making art/games because it gets really tedious.
RebelVampire
i definitely think soren has self confidence issues, but i dont think thats the only thing holding him back persay. i think hes probably suffering a bit from actually being educationally behind. because private schools have way more intense curriculum and generally better educational programs than public schools. so its like someone whose only taken algebra that now they have to do calculus.
dawgofdawgness
Soren maybe has a language barrier as well? Since he's going to a prestigious college out of the country
eleviken
mathtans - nope! english is just not soren's native language
yeah, and ASI is a very competitive school
Superjustinbros
But yeah just saying I can relate to that feeling of wanting freedom
mathtans
I also don't feel like Soren will be able to pull off the 3.5, but that maybe there will be extenuating circumstances (from his friends advocating for him to Soren discovering a cure for the disease) that might prevent him from being kicked out.
Superjustinbros
Perhaps
dawgofdawgness
wait what's soren's gpa at right now?
or is it unknown
mathtans
Rebel: That's also a good point, about private schooling.
RebelVampire
he mentioned it
its under 3.5
close but under
eleviken
under!
dawgofdawgness
oh ok
he'll be fine pfpfttt
RebelVampire
3.2
dawgofdawgness
I have a feeling that he's going to reach that GPA through hard academic studies, and then get kicked out for smoking weed or something
RebelVampire
http://www.cllcomic.com/comic/83/
Superjustinbros
These feels
eleviken
HAHAHA SOREN SMOKING WEED!!
it seems like the most unlikely thing he'd do but at the same time i can see him doing it
RebelVampire
i think he can do it cause hes super close to a 3.5. so he only has to do a smidgen better in a few classes and just not do worse in others
Superjustinbros
Meanwhile I'm looking at these pages and just feeling sorry for Soren
RebelVampire
this is what soren will do in college when he find out high school was worthless and basically a cruise ship
Superjustinbros
I second that
RebelVampire
buuuuuut
i also feel if he hits 3.5 theyre gonna raise the bar on him
and say "good job soren. now get a 4.0 or we kick you out"
cause i feel like that counselor would not care at all about the struggles and triumphs he went through to even get a 3.5
Superjustinbros
D:
That's harsh.
RebelVampire
i mean not that im hoping thats the direction
but that counselor gives me bad vibes man
like theyre just waiting and hoping to kick soren out
Superjustinbros
Yeah.
RebelVampire
i feel bad for soren that its being put on him to pull his family out of poverty
especially cause his academic success doesnt even gurantee that
getting a job is a whole other ballpark
dawgofdawgness
With Kasen, wasn't it also implied that she has social problems on top of academic problems?
I remember there beeing a scene where she looks out the window and is sad i think
RebelVampire
idk if she has social problems? she seems better adjusted than soren socially speaking. although shes definitely less outgoing than elena and val
although i do get the impression shes maybe not the best at expressing herself?
like i kind of feel she holds back some
dawgofdawgness
oh right
ShaRose49
Hi!! I really wanted to make it to this chat cause I read all of the comic. I think poor Valentin is misguidedly thinking he’s being selfless in that he doesn’t tell anyone. And he probably doesn’t think it’s contamina
Superjustinbros
Oh hello there. ^^
ShaRose49
Hullo!
mathtans
Back. Little one was fussing in her crib.
Superjustinbros
Welcoem back!
dawgofdawgness
Yupp, Val's gonna have to accept his sickness or else he will have consequencesss
Superjustinbros
Hope the little one's doing alright @mathtans
RebelVampire
tbf val's acceptance is irrelevant to the consequences
dawgofdawgness
I gotta go, I have to do AP bio (which is a course that Soren takes) no wonder he has a 3.2 GPA the homework is ass
mathtans
I was wondering about that counselor, if she had hearing problems or something. Because the first time we meet her, we see Soren knock at the door, he comes in, and then she says "knock next time". I was thinking, like... he did? Where were you?
dawgofdawgness
goodluck @eleviken !! goodbyee
mathtans
SJB: Oh yeah, she's fine, just not much of a sleeper.
Superjustinbros
Bye!
mathtans
Dawg: Best with it!
(I was never into bio.)
RebelVampire
good luck dawg!
i dont think the counselor has a hearing problem
she was probably just focused
which i get
when im focused i legit cancel out all sound
Superjustinbros
aah I see, Math.
mathtans
ShaRose: Interesting point, about the being selfless thing.
RebelVampire
i think the counselor has a being a bitch problem cough cough
ShaRose49
@mathtans yeah I guess
mathtans
Prejudiced against Germans.
ShaRose49
Yeah that counsellor sucked
RebelVampire
but im sure she has reasons and stuff
Superjustinbros
I'd believe it if she did have a bitch problem
RebelVampire
but admittedly as someone who was as socially anxious as soren at that age
i wouldve been in tears if i had knocked and someone's reply to me was "knock first"
so that moment specifically angered me to no end
in the good way
mathtans
Yeah, character feels.
ShaRose49
Yeah I felt sorry for Soren. My Dad is German so I guess that makes me half
Superjustinbros
Soren is nothing but feels
ShaRose49
And nice hair
Superjustinbros
yes the hair too
I just want to hug him.
mathtans
I want to see Soren do some of his music stuff.
ShaRose49
Same
Superjustinbros
Secodning the music stuff
ShaRose49
Also the hug
eleviken
i love drawing soren's hair!
it's my favorite
RebelVampire
im personally more interested in seeing kasen and art stuff. cause just cause she wants to go to art school doesnt necessarily mean shes good enough to get in.
which actually would be an ironic twist
Superjustinbros
That would be interesting
Also great to hear Eleviken!
I love drawing characters with fun/wild hair myself, it can be pretty fun sometimes, is a biiiit hard.(edited)
mathtans
That's true. Kasen's possibly my fave character, just because she's in a tight spot by virtue of her father, which she can't do anything about.
ShaRose49
But the pollution aspect was really intriguing to me. It’s a real problem in China. But I can relate a little because here in Canada there have been so many fires in the summer especially BC that the air is all smoky all the time and some people have respiratory issues. I could be wrong but I think some people died because of it or at least got sick. I wasn’t bothered by the air when I visited bc
mathtans
Oooh, I should be shipping Kasen and Elena.
ShaRose49
@eleviken Hi there, author!! I was hoping you’d be here
Superjustinbros
That sounds scary, ShaRose
ShaRose49
But I was surprised that the air in BC didn’t really bother me at all
It was a little. I hope next summer isn’t bad. I’m sure it was very scary and awful for the people in BC @Superjustinbros
Superjustinbros
yeah...
Hopefully it's not so bad next year
mathtans
Roommate ships are best ships. ^.^
ShaRose49
Yeah. The news said the pollution because of the smoke was as bad as the air quality in China this summer
Superjustinbros
...Jesus christ.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 4. Despite her generally good nature, Elena has her own sorts of troubles to deal with. Do you think Elena should have been captain of the fencing team as she believes she should have? Why or why not? Do you think Fenya views Elena with the same disdain Elena has for her, or might Fenya feel differently? Regardless, how might their rivalry affect their teamwork? Overall, do you think that Fenya and Elena might be able to patch things up and become friends? As shown recently, Elena also has to deal with her parents having died from contamina. Assuming she finds out, how might Valentin’s situation change her opinion about her parents’ work (if at all)? In general, how might Elena’s experiences at school change her as a person?
ShaRose49
I think Fenya might be just ignorant but I could be reme,Bering her wrong
RebelVampire
i really love kasen and the dad's dynamics as far as the future goes. cause as a child i def was kasen, wanting to pursue that creative dream. but as an older adult i actually get a lot more with the dad is coming from cause creative pursuits are a hard path. which is why im curious how talented kasen is in the first place. cause she might come to realize that even if she wants to art, she may just not have the talent for it
K.E. Karlsen
no i dont think she should have been captain of the fencing team.
ShaRose49
I liked fenya she was big and strong and had green hair
Superjustinbros
Green Hair is always good
K.E. Karlsen
the girl who won (apologies its been awhile since i read, i have been reading since its updates and havent had time for a reread and forgot her name ;;;) i think it was best she won, she clearly knew more what she was doing
mathtans
Oh yeah! I wanted to mention that was real clever, having Fenya and Elena meet early on, then have them become rivals later. Though I don't think Fenya really sees Elena as a rival or with disdain or anything, like just, there's this other girl who fences decently but doesn't watch where she's going, whatever.
ShaRose49
@K.E. Karlsen @Superjustinbros yup yup
K.E. Karlsen
oh is her name fenya?
RebelVampire
yeah i agree. elena did not deserve to be captain. especially cause she was a sore loser.
yes her name is fenya
ShaRose49
Yup
K.E. Karlsen
ok thats who im talking about sorry!! im bad at remembering names
RebelVampire
thats okay
no shame in getting help with names
mathtans
I'm also bad. It's why I have the cast page up in another window. (For a teacher, I'm soooo bad at names.)
Superjustinbros
I'm bad at names in general
ShaRose49
I forgot too the question helped me remember
RebelVampire
fenya is a passable offense anyway cause shes more a side chara than main cast. so her name isnt mentioned a whole ton compared to others
i kind of agree that i actually dont think fenya views elena as a rival at all. i kind of feel fenya is just like "oh yeah its that teammate i wonder why shes glaring at me how weird."
Superjustinbros
Perhaps
RebelVampire
and that any rivalry elena has just created in her own mind
cause the world revolves around her
Superjustinbros
Plot twist: it does
ShaRose49
Just what I was thinking
mathtans
She's also an immortal.
ShaRose49
I really want the story to show more of the streets on China, like I’d love for them to have a downtown scene, and I want to see more of the relationship between the brother and sister characters
I want to visit China someday
mathtans
Actually it's funny, when I first went to the comic I saw the latest update, with Elena talking about how they were going to get Soren's grades up, and I thought, huh, is she their mother or TA or something but why are they all laughing. Made more sense in context. All that to say, Elena does have leadership skills in terms of motivating people, but I'm not sure about delegation and such.
eleviken
hey yeah!
mathtans
It would be interesting to see more China.
eleviken
rebel - kasen's artsy side has yet to eb elaborated on
Superjustinbros
Yeah, do some more worldbuilding and more excuses for epic landscape shots (edited)
RebelVampire
id be interested in seeing more of china as well. though more to see how the world in general deals with the pollution. like i feel thered be other world things goes on besides the masks.
math- i do feel like elena has potential as a leader, but i also think she lacks the humility to do so. i think as she is right now shed be a self absorbed leader. so concerned with her own skills and showing off than helping anyone else on the team to get better
ShaRose49
Like Leonardo ughhh
Superjustinbros
And I just realized that's why everyone wears the masks on the main visual(edited)
ShaRose49
But she’s not all bad
Hooboy ya just noticed now?! Lol it’s alright
mathtans
Good point, humility's a problem.
RebelVampire
nah i dont think elena is all bad at all
i just dont think shes ready to be captain
mathtans
SJB: It's because it's Halloween.
RebelVampire
cause arrogance is a big thing to work through and elena isnt confronting her own flaw as of yet
ShaRose49
@RebelVampire wow you seem wise
I’m not being sarcastic sorry if that’s weird
Superjustinbros
lol
Guess I'll wear a "sick" mask on Halloween
ShaRose49
XD
RebelVampire
thank you i think XD idk if id label myself as wise, but i appreciate the sentiment
Superjustinbros
That'll scare the trick-or-treaters real good
RebelVampire
ya know the comic did give me halloween vibes from teh banner. so before i read it i thought it was gonna be some spooky halloween thing
ShaRose49
Yeah me too!
Superjustinbros
I did not think that at all, I jsut thought "why is everyone wearing masks"
ShaRose49
But I was pleasantly surprised. No offence but the other comics I tried were all too dark for me
mathtans
Huh. I didn't think about it at all tbh.
Just figured there'd be an explanation and there was.
RebelVampire
i was also guessing post apocalyptic so i was pleasantly surprised it wasnt that either
did not expect a coming of age story
ShaRose49
We got another wise person here
Haha I was kidding mostly I meant that @mathtans knew and we didn’t
Or well he guessed better
mathtans
Incidentally, any thoughts on the title? "Chasing Little Lights"? Like, I wonder if it's sort of metaphorical, like you need to chase after the people or subjects who bring light into your life... or if it's more about the idea of chasing grades and things, thinking they'll bring enlightenment or something.
ShaRose49
I think it’s a compelling drama I just hope it doesn’t get so sad it’s depressing
Maybe there are actually little lights that help stop pollution or something and that’s why they’re chasing them! CRAZY THEORY TIME
RebelVampire
i assumed it was metaphorical about chasing dreams or something
thats what val was talking about that elena didnt want to listen to
they separated the lights form the pollution
ShaRose49
I can’t remember that very well. What Lights?
Superjustinbros
All these wise people
mathtans
Oooh, didn't think of the pollution analogy.
ShaRose49
@Superjustinbros We a buncha sages we are
Superjustinbros
\o/
ShaRose49
I’m too into science fiction so my theory is probably too fun for this kind of story
Superjustinbros
Nothing like a tea party for all the Sages to gather
ShaRose49
Not that it sin’t fun
Superjustinbros
also Science Fiction is good
mathtans
Oh yeah, we haven't had enough crazy theories yet. So, Kasen is going to practice her art by drawing nude models of Elena, which is how the two of them end up dating.
ShaRose49
@Superjustinbros amen
mathtans
The modelling also helps with the fencing, in terms of seeing how Elena's weight is balanced.
ShaRose49
@mathtans I was thinking more about crazy theories about the pollution aspect I guess
RebelVampire
tbh i ship elena and fenya more
gotta have that slow burn rivalry turned to romance
Superjustinbros
we setting ships on sail already?
mathtans
Rebel: I am okay with that.
I still find Kasen precious though. Hope there's more of her. That was a cool image of her to start off Chapter 3.
Superjustinbros
Also before the comic tea party ends, I'd like to wish you luck with developing the story further, @eleviken. It's really developing well so far.
RebelVampire
they can bond when elena needs fencing help and asks for some private lessons
mathtans
Agreed.
About the developing that is, not the fencing. Though that'd be fun too.
RebelVampire
kasen is adorable though. i really like her hair in particular for some reason. its so fluffy and bouncy seeming
mathtans
"Don't fence me in."
ShaRose49
I don’t think this story is super romantic I’m not a huge romance person
@mathtans great pun
RebelVampire
oh its not. i will be surprised if theres romance at all. but shipping can be part of fun theory time
mathtans
True, I don't see the comic veering heavy into romance. (I just like adding yuri romance wherever I can.)
I also wonder if we'll see Soren's sister again. Like maybe one of the others will end up talking to her.
ShaRose49
I guess I like adding cartoony scifi wherever I can
Superjustinbros
No probs with that
ShaRose49
I loooove stories about siblings
mathtans
In fact maybe Soren and his sister is a parellel to the relationships between the Lins? Hmm.
ShaRose49
@Superjustinbros thanks I think you and I would get along fine XD scifi in me bloood
@mathtans oooh, I like this theory
eleviken
i am currently in class but i want to say thanks you all for coming!
Superjustinbros
You're welcome!
Glad to be here. ^^
ShaRose49
@eleviken thank you for coming and giving us something to talk about!
RebelVampire
i would like to see soren's sister again. cause theres gotta be a degree of tension there since soren can come off as the favorite since hes the one who gets to go to the prestigious academy
mathtans
Thanks for putting it out there, eleviken! (Also, maybe you shouldn't be messaging in class while the teacher is talking, the way Valentin got called out. )
I tease.
RebelVampire
thank you as well, eleviken~!
eleviken
i wil catch up later, sorry i couldnt participate!
mathtans
Rebel: Good point about that.
Superjustinbros
Have a good rest of the day/evening, Eleviken!
mathtans
I also wonder a bit why the headmaster's from Sweden, if they're in China. I wonder if that will be addressed.
Anyway, best with the comic!
RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB END!
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monoma:
@s-inasa hey. it's Monoma
Inasa:
Oh hello!! How are you doing Monoma?
monoma:
I'm alright. long day haha
Thanks again for all this
Inasa:
Hey relax! I should be the one thanking you
Its been some...lonely, weird recovery weeks
monoma:
Oh...? sorry to hear that
I get that though
it's a weird situation
Inasa:
I still don't get it, to this day, what the fuck happened.
I knew I was gonna be rejected.
But the girl's quirk was brutal anyway.
monoma:
... yeah.
I can clear it up for you a little bit right now, if you'd like.
I was hit by it too (I don't know if you remember hearing that at the hospital) so I've got... experience with it.
Inasa:
That so? I don't remember much of the waiting room. The pain meds made me sluggish.
Tell me about your experience!
monoma:
Ah
Now? ... ok
... I feel like with every person it's just really different, I guess....
and, I guess, I was having a really rough time with my emotions, so. they grew really slowly at first. I thought they were kind of just a rash at first? and then some sort of weird welts, I dunno.
they were really hard to take out, too... really hard. kind of impossible tbh...
Inasa:
Mine were hard too. It hurt like...ever had to take blood from the back of your hand? That hurts a lot.
But they didn't grow slowly
They just. Sprouted everywhere
And fast
That bug girl really didn't want to help me at first. I was terrified.
monoma:
At least she helped you. I had to find out from someone else what was even happening
it is scary though.
Inasa:
I still have nightmares of...dull, bored looking fly eyes and flowers coming out of my chest like nails.
monoma:
hah....
I get nightmares too.
Inasa:
I remember...after the surgery
Every time I tried eating something I'd throw up.
monoma:
Oh wow
Inasa:
Like their roots were still there
Yeah. But ! I'm okay now right!? Thats what matters in the end!
monoma:
... that's really scary
... idk
I had the surgery too, but I think they fucked up somehow because it's not... completely gone...
I haven't told anyone that yet though so. Don't go blurting that around. I'm gonna get it handled.
And I'm not trying to scare you in saying that, I'm just... mentioning.
Um. How do you feel? .. Emotionally?
Taking them out is supposed to... affect you... and I've noticed that, to some extent, but, like I said, it's not completely gone for me...
Inasa:
They came back?? Oh no...
Um. In what sense?
In towards...towards Todoroki?
monoma:
... is that who the flowers were reacting to... ah.
Yes
ah. Sort of the same way, really slowly. I had a lot of chest pains for a while and I guess I just didn't connect it to what had happened... And I don't think my surgery was nearly as extensive/invasive as yours.
............................. I guess the only difference is maybe they're more internal now than before... I didn't really think about it?
Kind of trying not to.
Inasa:
You should get that removed, Monoma.
Before they grow violent like mine did.
monoma:
Yeah. I know that.
Like I said, I'm handling it.
Anyway, you and Todoroki.
Inasa:
...yes?
monoma:
...
I mean, what's that feel like? Do you feel better? Or... anything, really? Towards him?
Inasa:
...have you ever felt hollow?
Like there's a void inside your chest?
That's how I feel about him now... its weird.
And I don't like it.
I like..him. as a friend.
Feeling nothing is disturbing.
monoma:
Ah. Just like that?
Just... instantly, huh?
Interesting.
Inasa:
It's just.
I knew he was going to reject me.
He likes a girl after all, hah. He's dating that girl.
So even before I heard it from him I had been preparing myself for it.
Besides, I'm the kind of guy who instantly forgives people?
That might have helped.
monoma:
Would it have though
I think, if there's anything to learn from this mess, it's that you can't just logic emotions away like that...
Doesn't matter if you were prepared. It was still gonna hurt.
Inasa:
You're right...
monoma:
... Forgiveness is an interesting thing to bring up right now
Inasa:
Why?
monoma:
Because... in this case, who would you have been trying to forgive? Todoroki?
... Maybe that's an odd question.
Inasa:
Yeah?
Anyone would get mad at being rejected.
And uh. Especially going through a traumatic experience.
But I knew it wasnt on him.... just on me.
So whatever resentment I could be having I forgave and tried to move on.
monoma:
I see...
Inasa:
Yeah. That's where I'm at today!
...You know Monoma.
monoma:
Hm
?
Inasa:
My senpai, Shishikura. He tried to stop us from chatting.
I dont get it.
You're nice.
monoma:
Ah. Yes, he approached me too about that.
Haha
Thank you
Inasa:
Dont thank me! Its just what it is
I don't understand.
monoma:
I'm thanking you because I haven't heard that in a while.
There's.. been a lot of rumors going on about me, that's all.
He might have heard them.
I don't know what kind of things he said to you...
... I am glad you disregarded them though. At least, enough for us to text like this.
Inasa:
Rumors suck.
monoma:
Yep haha
Inasa:
He said some mean stuff
And that you want to sleep with me.
monoma:
oh goddamnit
Inasa:
But uh. If that's the case I haven't realized yet
monoma:
that wasn't my intention. in this conversation. at all.
again, rumors. of my apparent harlotry.
eveyrone here thinks i'm a slut now and i guess that's spread over to your school too, which is just great.
Inasa:
Oh. Why is that??
monoma:
probably because i act like one.
Inasa:
Well.
That's mean.
You don't act like one at least towards me
monoma:
i'm mean to myself. bad habit
Inasa:
Besides what's wrong with sex?
monoma:
... nothing..
Inasa:
Yeah!
I guess people are just mean. They used to be mean about my height, now they're mean because I got the license late and that i got it as a first year...
monoma:
Well that's just ridiculous
And that's just honestly jealousy
Like, I've heard about you and I've heard about the things you can do. They just hate that you can do them all and you can't
Inasa:
Thank you!
And I apologize for my senpai's behavior!
I'm sure he doesn't really mean it, whatever he's thinking of...
monoma:
I think he does. But I'll try not to be too bothered about it
like I said, it wasn't my intention for the conversation.
... and even if it was, it wouldn't really be his business anyway.
no offense to him. of course
I just really didn't appreciate how he went about all this.
Inasa:
He's a smart guy but. Sometimes he lets his emotions get the better of him.
I remember how scary he looked when he learned that I got rejected. Almost like he wanted to kill Todoroki.
He's protective.
monoma:
I see
Well, he has no reason to be. We're obviously getting along...
Hopefully that kind of thing won't continue...
Inasa:
I hope so too!
About your flowers. Your feelings for whoever they were ...
Are they there?
monoma:
What do you mean, there?
... I still feel for him, if that's what you're talking about
Inasa:
Yeah that.
Ah.
monoma:
I suppose it's a little different now.
I don't...
I try not to think about it too much.
... I really don't like them. The flowers.
Or... feeling, I guess.
Trying to ignore them is what got it so bad last time, so I'm sort of trying to embrace them now...
Inasa:
Why dont you like the feeling? Are you scared?
If so, i get that. Im scared too of having a small crush.
monoma:
... yeah
it's.. really complicated? a little...
Inasa:
Well
If you want someone non judgemental to hear
I'm here! :-)
monoma:
Err.. maybe a little. I don't wanna take up too much of your time,,,
Inasa:
Its fine!
monoma:
ok...
........... that bug bitch kind of hit a bunch of us with her quirk, so it kind of....
It's making everything weird
Inasa:
Oh...
Weird how
monoma:
Well
Everyone can look at your flowers and just make assumptions, right? Based on the color or what's associated with them
And having your own out in the open is bad enough...
... but then you see others, with theirs, and...
I dunno.
I don't like it.
Inasa:
You care about these people. Thats normal!
monoma:
,,,
I guess,,
Inasa:
It'd kill me to see people I like in pain.
monoma:
yeah...
I don't like seeing that on people. like, if I say something, and suddenly, more of those flowers pop up...
Especially knowing what they can do...
And I guess I can't help but associate those feelings with the flowers. I know without the quirk they're not nearly as dangerous... but aren't they?
eh.
Inasa:
I don't know a lot, honestly.
monoma:
mm.
Inasa:
But I understand you
monoma:
oh
... cool
Inasa:
:-)
monoma:
hahaha
:)...
Inasa:
Anytime you need someone to talk to about this
Or anything else
You can talk to me!
monoma:
haha
thanks
You're really friendly lol. it's a nice change
Inasa:
I get the overfriendliness comment a lot!
This time its appreciative so its good
monoma:
I didn't say overfriendly haha it's the perfect amount, I guess
Glad you appreciate it though :P
Inasa:
😄
monoma:
hehe
... obviously the same to you though
especially since you're still in recovery... it doesn't have to be as lonely anymore, maybe
Inasa:
Hey thank you! I talk to my senpai a lot in this recovery period. Someone else would be fun!
monoma:
Haha... fun is definitely one word for it
Inasa:
How would you put it?
monoma:
Ah.... idk,,,,,
It's....exciting, I guess
It's also just a depressing topic haha, so...
Inasa:
It is.
I don't like to remember how it basically took a part of me away
monoma:
... It basically did. Yeah.
It sucks...
Inasa:
...are you scared of loving?
After what happened?
monoma:
Ah... in what way are you thinking?
Because I'm scared of a lot.
I kind of would have been fine with just...losing the capacity for love after this. Because it was all so much. But... I guess... it kind of made me ready for the scarier aspects of it
Or maybe I just like the fear?
... I've been told I'm a bit of a masochist, haha...
Inasa:
In the way. In the way I have a small crush but I'm terrified to act upon it
monoma:
Oh.....
Inasa:
I wouldn't like to lose the ability to love. Love moves us you know? Hot blood on the veins and passion!!
But its. Too early
I mean I had the crush before, just a bit.
monoma:
"Hot blood" hahaha
Take your time, then...?
You have the time, at least...
You don't have to rush into it. You're still getting over Todoroki, technically.... and it'd be better for both of you
Inasa:
You dont have time though
monoma:
...
Inasa:
Your flowers.
monoma:
... are being handled
Inasa:
But dont you like someone? The someone they're for?
monoma:
Yes...
Inasa:
...do they not like you?
Like Todoroki doesn't like me?
monoma:
Um. ... no, I think they like me. Maybe.
I mean, not maybe,, they do. They've...mentioned it, I mean,,
Inasa:
W H A T ??????
monoma:
Wh-what,
Inasa:
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
THEN WHAT THE
WHAT ARE YOU DOING ??
monoma:
,,,
Inasa:
YOU GOTTA FIX THIS BY TELLING THEM!
monoma:
but im scared,,
Inasa:
You have no idea what I wouldn't give to not have had the surgery!
You have no idea what I would have sacrificed for him to love me back!
You have your chance right in front of you!
monoma:
,,,,it's more complicated than that,,
he already left me once, idk if I can,,
I mean, I do plan on,,,
I was just, waiting, ah, until the time was right...??
Inasa:
You're.
You saw me. That day.
What did i look like ?
I dont know exactly. I just had my point of view.
monoma:
Uh
You're what I have the most nightmares about. Haha
You just... looked like you were in agony, sort've... it was like monstrous
Inasa:
That's. That's because he didn't love me.
You say your guy does!
monoma:
...a little
Inasa:
A little is better than nothing!
Even if its corresponded by a LITTLE you won't have to go through what i did!
monoma:
Okay...
sorry
I know I'm stupid about this...
Inasa:
You're scared.
Its okay to be scared
BUT
If you need a hand to hold through this I'm here!
You saw what I have been through
I don't want that...demonic quirk affecting anyone else
monoma:
Yeah ... me neither...
Inasa:
...tell the guy.
monoma:
Okay...
Inasa:
No, really tell him
You're nice, Monoma!
You dont deserve surgery nor what I went through
Avoid heartbreak.
monoma:
Okay. Okay. I'll try to.
... there's reasons why I haven't, but I know those are excuses, so I'll. really try. okay.
sorry
Inasa:
If you need me to help, I will!
In any way I can!
monoma:
... thanks.
Thank you.
um, yeah... I'll let you know then
Inasa:
Okay!
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