#heroes of olympus spoilers

[gingerthesnap]

as the percy jackson show approaches i would just like to remind everyone that we had to wait An Entire Calendar Year to find out what the fuck happened after Percy and Annabeth literally fell into hell at the end of Mark of Athena. it was the worst, and most literal cliffhanger of my life. kids these days need to understand how much this community has suffered.

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[zoreldanvers]

"We're staying together," he promised. "You're not getting away from me. Never again." Only then did she understand what would happen. A one-way trip. A very hard fall. "As long as we're together," she said. -- Annabeth, The Mark of Athena pg. 568

or, percy falls for annabeth

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[all-da-ladies-luv-leoo]

no cause its the way that percabeth in the show realized that the only reason they made it through the lotus casino was because they had each other

and its the way that in tsats they stated that the only reason they made it through tartarus alive was because they had each other

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[slices-of-naranja]

Hm. Leo Valdez and Nico bonding over religious trauma.

Everyone points out that Nico would be Catholic since Italian, y’know, yeah, makes sense. But Leo Valdez is Texan, Mexican, and his Tía Rosa literally called him a demon when he came to live with her after his mother died (if I remember correctly). His first response at Camp Halfblood was to ask if God with a capital G was real. (Which, fair, a lot do that, but still).

Brother could make fire with his hands, experienced the worst tragedy of his life because of it, and just lived seven years not knowing what the fuck was up with that??? Being called a demon at eight years old, after all that he went through, by a religious Mexican lady would definitely have a lasting effect. (Speaking as a Catholic Mexican).

Like, you’re not gonna tell me that some part of him didn’t secretly believe that. That it wouldn’t keep him up at night, wondering what the fuck he was. That he didn’t look back at his fucked up childhood, at the lava and brimstone in his veins, and not think “What if she’s right? What if I’m going to hell? What if I am a monster? A demon?”

Killing is a sin. Murder is a sin. And whatever the fuck he was, whatever kind of horrid creature he is, it wasn’t getting into Heaven. Don’t tell me he wouldn’t cry at the sight of a nun. Get nervous when his fosters would take him to church. Whisper silent prayers to be fixed, to have whatever was broken inside of him, whatever he was being punished for, to stop. To maybe stop existing at all.

I’m willing to bet that when an eight year old knows for a fact he isn’t human, fire flowing through his blood, and gets called a demon because of it during the worst time in his life, when not being human caused the death of someone he loves, it might stick with him. He might believe the words thrown at him.

So, yeah, I think Nico and Leo would get along.

Also- literally not in the headspace to articulate this correctly but I hope u see my vision.

#Leo valdez #Leo valdez angst #heroes of Olympus #hoo spoilers #heroes of olympus spoilers #nico di angelo #really hope I ain’t making half of this up #I only vaguely remember the Aunt Rosa stuff

[why-is-it-always-autumn]

Olympian Gods as Rated by Percy Jackson

Zeus: 1/10 terrible father worse uncle sent people to kill me while i was actively on the way to retrieve his stolen property

Hera: 2/10 cursed Annabeth, kidnapped me for months, stole my memories, made me carry her across a river. Points for actually trying to do something about the giants ig

Poseidon: 7/10 we're okay but there's definite room for improvement

Demeter: 5/10 no strong opinions

Ares: 0/10 fight me

Athena: 2/10 it used to be higher but then she sent Annabeth on a suicide quest that got both of us dragged into Tartarus so...

Apollo: 6/10 occasionally helpful but at what cost?

Artemis: 9/10 would crash a rescue quest for again

Hephaestus: 4/10 needs to keep better track of his stuff

Aphrodite: 3/10 stop meddling in my love life

Hermes: 6/10 nice enough and tries to help but the whole thing with Luke was kind of his fault

Dionysus: 3/10 should not be left in charge of children

Hades: 6/10 he did try to kill me a few times but honestly? Understandable.

Hestia: 10/10 the only one in this family I respect

#im open to debate on most of these except for hestia #esp. if i forgot something major #percy jackson spoilers #heroes of olympus spoilers #percy jackson and the olympians #percy jackson

[wierdshenanigans]

Everyone talked about the Jason being an attempted Percy replacement during The Lost Hero but nobody has talked about Grover replacement. When I tell you I was DEVASTATED at Coach Hedge coming in instead of my MVP Grover. And it happened the entire series!! The audacity!! My boy Grover was the GOAT when Coach Hedge couldn't even let out a baa. Grover could have summoned Jackie Chan with his reed pipes by the time Hedge sent that paper plane letter.

#Yes this is Hedgebashing and yes it will be tolerated I don't like that guy #He behaves too much like me for my taste #I see too much of myself within him... #The violence... #The rage.... #The stupidity... #coach hedge #pjo hoo toa #hoo #jason grace #percyjackson #percy jackson #perseus jackson #grover underwood #grover pjo #percy jackon and the olympians #pjo series #rick riordan #heroes of olympus #pjo #percy jackson and the olympians #percy jackson series #riordanverse #pjo hoo #heroes of olympus spoilers #pjo fandom #percy and grover

[i-lived-bitch-beatdown]

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[muppetfreak]

I'm so glad kiddo and I read all of the books together before we started watching the series because then we can have bonding moments like shouting at the television during episode 5,

"Leo, come get your dad."

"He built a theme park of death, Leo!"

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[ivyy-covered-walls]

thinking abt how much genuine pain i would have been in if i ever finished trials of apollo (read the first book then phased out of pjo) like wdym. wdym my pookiebear baby jason DIES 12-13 y/o me genuinely would have gone insane i fear like i was already bad enough when leo “died” i don’t know what i would have done

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[sparkedblaze]

i think hazel has a southern accent.

one of those that is Distinctly New Orleans. where the vowels are round, and there’s a lilt at the end of like every sentence.

she and percy sound So Similar but also So Very Different. they both have thicker accents but those accents are not remotely the same.

they can both understand each other perfectly at all times.

also hazel using southern phrases.

has definitely ‘bless your heart’ed leo.

someone around her will wear skinny jeans and she says ‘i could put a quarter in your pocket and tell if its heads or tails’ with her cheeks all red with embarrassment.

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[sleepybluecyclops]

and if i told you this is how they look at each other before they fall into hell together—

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[crypticmillipede]

[percy jackson spoilers here up through Trials of Apollo and TSaTS]

listen i LOVEE the percy jackson series and its extended universe . BIG FAVORITE so trust me when i say i mean this with the UPMOST love:

gawd damn rick riordan keeps making these little choices in his writing that have me tweaking. like the way this man forgets his own lore. EGREGIOUS. pulls me out of the story. it’ll be the tiniest, most innocuous thing but it gets me everyyy time. happens more especially as you get into the later series, probably bc there’s just more stuff to keep track of. i loved TSaTS but it was especially bad there😭😭 wdym nico started playing Mythomagic in the 1940s ?? why is bianca here ?? and nico, who spends most of his time in the underworld, doesn’t know what the phlegethon is??

it’s other stuff too, i love the series but there so much missing potential for these characters that was just never fully explored.

Jason’s character had SO much potential. hello ???? child soldier trained by wolves since age 2, pressured with unwanted responsibility, forced to suppress emotions, remain stoic, be a leader. Rick could’ve done sooo much with that material. jason should get to break down, as a treat !! instead he comes off as a bit undeveloped, sort of hollow, not nearly as fleshed out as some of the other characters. he’s probably the least-liked main character in HoO, but i firmly believe that’s because Rick didn’t do his character idea justice, not because his concept was ACTUALLY boring. Not even going to go INTO what happened to him in ToA, bc i’ve GOT opinions about that but it’s too much rn.

and don’t get me started on Piper, man. the reveal in Trials of Apollo that [SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER] Piper was queer? GENIUS. SOOO much potential there. but now i’m going back and rereading HoO and it’s making me mad bc we GET Piper’s pov and it’s not foreshadowed or hinted at at all. and it could’ve been SO GOOD you guys😭😭 imagine a version of HoO where Piper’s struggling with Hera-induced comphet, warring with the false memories implanted in her brain vs the way she’s expected to act as a daughter of aphrodite vs the way she actually feels ??? UGH it could’ve been so good. but instead, it’s so obvious that this was not Rick’s original plan for Piper’s character, and it was something he threw in later on. missed opportunity for sure.

in general, a lot of missed opportunities in HoO. So many missed character interaction opportunities, so much that could’ve been delved into but wasn’t! Like I wish we could’ve gotten more about Percy and Annabeth post-Tartarus, see how they’re holding up after that dumper fire.

and i LOVE HoO, it’s my favorite out of the bunch! but i think i love it for what it could be, yk?? anyways yes thanks for coming to my rant, feel free to disagree with me that’s totally fine!! this is so unserious anyways lol just me sharing some thoughts about a series i love

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[bloodyshadow1]

since I've been forced back into the PJO, HoO, and ToA fandom against my will (due to my adhd forcing me not someone forcing me) I have some thoughts on HOO.

no one should have been in a relationship other than Percabeth in the Seven, at least not at first. Don't get me wrong, I thought Hazel and Frank were cute together, but there was no reason to make them a couple in the book they're introduced.

Personally, I never really liked Piper and Jason together, despite liking both characters as people. I felt like it was a weird start and a weird choice to keep them together. To make matters worse, they get together really offscreen which means we don't really know them as people. I think it would have been more interesting if they had feelings for each other but were unsure if it was real or just from Hera. And I think it would have made their stories better if they realized that the friendship they forged between them was just better than the romance that was forced upon them by Hera.

Them not being actually together in the end I think would fit better with Jason's flip flopping between Greek and Roman. It kind of feels like him choosing the Greek side, while it does have to due with his own character, a lot of it feels like him wanting to stay with Piper. Personally I never felt like their relationship was that strong to earn that.

Speaking of Jason, I feel like there was so much wasted potential with him. I think Rick should have let him keep the coin or had Hera give him a spear at the end of Lost Hero since it would be a good way to differentiate him from Percy. Or him having a weapon that could change forms that he's a master of both would separate him from Percy who has only felt comfortable using Riptide. In fact using both weapons could have been a way to reveal his issue with not being able to choose Greek or Roman as a metaphor if he's good at both but never a master of either because he spent so much time learning both instead of focusing

I wish Rick also toned down the worf effect moments with Jason, I know with 7-9 main characters and having to make sure every character gets a shot is important, but it feels like Jason got shafted a lot of the time. There's a reason a crack ship in the fandom is Jasonxbrick. Jason from the beginning was brought up as Percy's Roman foil, being just as much of a badass, but while he has his moments, he never feels like Percy's equal, just another powerful demi-god on the boat, despite also being a child of the big 3. With Percy, we had 5 books of him being a badass and failing as we watch him go from 12 to 16 and while he does get worfed and nerfed sometimes during HoO, he gets as many awesome moments. We're introduced to Jason when he should be at his most badass, and he does have cool moments, but it feels like he gets tossed around or knocked out more than he has cool moments to get the other members of the Seven something to do.

I also never really understood the whole Greek and Roman divide inside of him storyline that he was having. I feel like either more time needed to be devoted to that or have it drop as a plot point completely. It seems kind of moot since one of the whole plots is working together and basically stop the fighting between Greek and Roman sides. I think it would have been more interesting if he had more scenes with Frank who is a child of two worlds and them realizing they don't' have to chose because both are part of them. I don't really understand why Jason would want to be more Greek than Roman anyway, while I personally prefer the Greek stuff, but since we don't get a lot of Jason in Camp Half-Blood, and what we do have is an atypical time. It kind of feels like a no brainer given how little we see of Roman side of the world, but I don't know, would have preferred Jason defending the stuff he grew up with rather than abandoning it.

I would have liked more with Reyna, I'm not sure what, but I would have liked her with the Seven for a while and forming relationships or the the lack of being able to is why she is willing to leave with Nico to deliver the statue.

Additionally with Reyna, I wish she had more time to just talk with Jason. At the end of Lost Hero, there's some implication that Jason has some sort of strong feelings towards Reyna, romantic or other we don't know, and we know from early on that Reyna had a crush on him in Son of Neptune. Then in Mark of Athena it doesn't matter, I don't think they even talk really as things go wrong so quickly and Jason and Piper got together offscreen. We see Reyna's reaction a bit, but even if they weren't romantic or even if it was a failed romantic relationships because Jason is with Piper, I feel like there could have been more. They were friends for a long time and I'm not sure if Jason and Reyna ever talk without someone there in the 5 books. I dont' want them together either, but I feel like something between them would have been nice.

This is ToA stuff but it happens to do with Reyna so I'm putting it here, but I don't really like that Reyna ends up joining the Hunters of Artemis. this is going to sound shitty, but I don't like that as a plot device and as a way to reveal she's AroAce. I know being Aromantic is a spectrum, but the implication of joining the Hunters is to swear off romance completely. I get that it is some people's dream, but I just don't like how Reyna's coming out was protrayed. She had romantic feelings for Jason and slight interest in Percy. Neither went there for obvious reasons, but I feel like there could have been more done with her being AroAce. Like it feels like her coming out as AroAce and joining the Hunters is because she never got the guy, not because of who she is. For example, I think it would have been interesting if she talked with someone about always going after guys who she could never be with specifically because she didn't feel the same way about romance that other kids her age did.

I will also say that part of me kind of wanted Piper and Reyna to pull a Korrasami before Korrasami was a thing, because I didn't like Piper and Jason together. It's selfish and I'm all for Reyna being AroAce or being AroAce on a spectrum since I know some and Reyna actually feels demiromantic to me personally. It would also have been nice for Reyna to give Venus the middle finger by falling in love with a daughter of Aphrodite after Venus said no demigod would heal her heart and made Reyna feel like she was broken all this time. I feel like it was supposed to be about self love or realizing she was AroAce but it's shitty thing to say it that way to a 14 year old

I think Leo was good overall as a character, but I am not a fan of his relationship with Calypso. I don't like the slap slap kiss kiss dynamic they had and with Leo kind of flirty because he felt like the odd one out of the Seven being the only one not in a relationship, I think his story would have been better if he realized that he wasn't actually the odd one out and his friends did love him. sort of him failing at romance but learning to love himself and find a place in a new found family. I will say, if there was someone for him to fall for, I liked his brief meeting with Echo far more than his relationship with Calypso and I think they all deserve better than canon, Calypso included.

Piper unfortunately so much of her character revolves around his relationship with Jason which is why I would prefer the Seven to not have romantic entanglement or let it grow or wither as the story went on. Don't get me wrong, she has some amazing scenes, but I feel like Rick didn't know what to do with her all the time, which I think a lot of characters in HoO suffered from.

I wanted to see more of Camp Jupiter. I get that quests are the driving plot of the whole Percy Jackson series as a whole so we can't spend that much time in one place. But the fact that Camp Jupiter was supposed to be the opposite of Camp Half-Blood, yet is a city state compared to a summer camp, it feels like we didn't spend nearly as much time there as we should. Like with Jason foiling Percy, we had 5 books of seeing bits and pieces of Camp Half-Blood we only got glimpses of Camp Jupiter.

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[amaryllisblackthorn]

spoilers for the percy jackson and the olympians series, the heroes of olympus series, and the demigod diaries (i think)

there's no way Luke was written to have been actually attracted to Annabeth in the og PJatO series, no matter what subsequent books have said since. This is a case where I invoke Death of the Author and rationalize those later instances as Percy and Annabeth being unreliable narrators on the matter, regardless of Rick's actual intent. because it's just not there in the og series. especially when TLO emphasizes that they're family to each other.

Annabeth and Luke both come from a background of not having a stable frame of reference for familial love, so I can see both of them come to misidentify their feelings towards each other as romantic despite the feelings never actually being romantic in nature -- which is canonically the case for Annabeth.

post-Titan's Curse, from Luke's POV, Annabeth is the only one visibly/vocally ... who still cares about him? hasn't given up on him? like. WE know the complexity of Thalia's feelings re: Luke, and also Thalia was no where remotely in the wrong. but to Luke, Thalia basically cut ties with him.

and like, that's a lot, for him. for lack of better words. it's no secret how important Thalia's been to Luke, how hard he's clung to her and like.... i'm not eloquent enough to properly express it but like. he's clung so hard to not exactly a memory but something rooted/stuck in the past and the Thalia in the present destroys that and now he's left with nothing regarding that (which is his own fault! but he cant see that)

but Annabeth's still there. Annabeth, who he's had ~5 years to bond with after Thalia's 'death'. Annabeth, who's /always/ been there.

i think that if Luke had in fact come to potentially misidentify the nature of their feelings as romantic, it would have been post-Titan's Curse, pre-BotL. but they were never ACTUALLY romantic feelings.

which brings us to his final moments in TLO, where he infamously asks Annabeth if she loved him.

Annabeth starts to say 'There was a time I thought --', then looks at Percy, then tells Luke, that although he was like a brother to her, she never loved him [like that]. and Luke nods.

Annabeth is able to compare her feelings for Percy -- their feelings for each other -- to the feelings she's had for Luke and is able to realize that they were different, and that they had been different all along.

and, if continuing the proposed/potential 'Luke came to misidentify the nature of his feelings' reading, Luke nodding is him realizing the same thing. that the feelings Percy&Annabeth have for each other is and always has been different than the feelings Luke&Annabeth have had for each other.

it's important to stress that, re: this interpretation/reading, Luke never had actual romantic feelings towards Annabeth && he was never actually attracted to her!!! is it still problematic? sure but like. of course their relationship is problematic, specifically regarding Luke's treatment towards her throughout the og series, the power dynamic, etc. but i stand by him not having actual romantic feelings towards her in the og series, regardless of subsequent books.

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[slices-of-naranja]

I genuinely think Leo’s POV said it best. ‘In that moment, Leo felt bad for Jason.’ (Paraphrasing)

Leo viscerally understood and saw that, holy shit, my family life may be full of The Horrors, but at least I knew my mom. At least I knew she loved me, at least I knew what love felt like, even for a short time- After Thalia reveals Jason’s Tragic Backstory to them. Like- he expresses that exact sentiment within his POV.

I love Jason Grace, who asked his best friend to stay with him during a personal moment because he was afraid of facing who he was alone. And I love Leo Valdez, who saw that and understood.

#hoo spoilers #heroes of olympus #heroes of Olympus spoilers #Jason Grace #Leo Valdez #pjo hoo toa #maybe a little bit of #valgrace

[hamletshoeratio]

Piper to Jason in Blood of Olympus: You are not dying from a stupid body piercing

Me, rereading hoo and knowing Jason's fate in toa:

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