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nunalastor · 23 days
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I can say as a demiromantic the Alastor shipping discourse just gets so fuckin tiring.
Like I hate it that the minute a character is confirmed to be ace, everyone and their mother immediately labels them as sex-repulsed and considers shipping said character a crime worthy of the death penalty. It’s not the “respect” they think it is. All this does is erase other identities on the asexual spectrum. All it does is allow misconceptions about asexuality to continue to be spread. All it does is push closet asexuals who may not feel sex-repulsion further deep into denial and in the closet.
I get being this defensive if, say, an irl celebrity came out as ace and expilictly stated to stop drawing porn and shipping them with people. But a fictional character? Really? Does the feelings of a god damn fictitious deer cannibal matter more to these people than an irl person? A person who could potentially just be trying to create a relatable rep for how they experience their asexuality?
I understand representation in the media is important. However, not everyone experiences things in the exact same way. Wether that be in how one experiences their gender, sexuality, disability, etc. That’s why VARIED representation is even more important. We’re not a hive mind. We’re people with our own thoughts and opinions. Our own experiences. And we deserve to be heard.
Now, while I don’t necessarily like most Alastor ships (nothing against them, just can’t see most of them happening) I’m not gonna burn someone at the stake for having a different opinion than I do. It’s not my problem.
Moral of the story: I just wish people would stop harassing others for having a different opinion then them
(Also personal HC of mine is that Al is Demi-Aroace but that’s just me lmao)
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mlsofh · 3 months
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Fandom Thoughts - Aro/Ace Representation
Hello Wayward Sinners!
I was thinking about the fact that there is so much discourse around Alastor being Aro/Ace and if that means it's okay to ship him with anyone. As an Aro/Ace spectrum person I figured I actually had a stake in this conversation. For the record, just because I am Aro/Ace does not mean that I can speak for the entire community. I am a person giving my opinion on the matter. If I'm being honest: Alastor having a relationship/relationships is perfectly fine in my eyes! Aro/Ace people can be on a spectrum to how far or how complicated romantic feelings are. Same goes for sexual feelings. For Aro/Ace people, it can be so complicated. For myself, I don't view love the same way as others. It's a complicated spiral that takes a lot of communication with my partners. So in short because this was a short post: I think as an Aro/Ace person it doesn't take away representation as everyone is on a spectrum in some way. Feelings are complicated! (Personally I'm an avid RadioDust/HuskerDust/RadioHusk/RadioHuskDust shipper but that's neither here nor there. I'll probably make a post about it.) That's all for today: what are your thoughts? Stay Tuned!
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Wandering thru Hazbin Hotel tweets, most likely found porg's new Twitter: MothReturns, created Mar 2022. & she's doing the same shit in various Hazbin tags on Twitter/Tumblr. 😶 Sorry to bother you with this, but I'd rather the Hazbin fans not suffer the same mess as DMC fans went thru! 🙇
Yeah that’s definitely her lmao — I forgot to update the master post. Same 5 insults and profile picture, excessive use of ampersands, complete lack of self-awareness, unable to distinguish fiction from reality, etc. etc. You know the drill. Girl can’t hide her manner of typing for shit lol.
I literally have no idea what tags Hazbin and/or Vivziepop (sp?) fans use for this kind of thing, so feel free to spread that linked post. If I need to add tags, I can. Just lmk.
And for the love of christ just block. Don’t engage. It’s just giving some attention starved freak with a mile-wide victim complex a brand new box of body chalk.
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goetialiker · 8 months
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There is Hazbin discourse again
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No, it’s not worth investing your time into - Sam Haft made a thread on it if you’re interested, just read that and move on
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cloudysfluffs · 2 months
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REALLY considered not posting this one.......might delete later
ns//fw and/or ki//nk blogs please dni!!!
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convolutedblasphemy · 1 month
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Okay we're gonna try and settle this
Because I've seen so many people try and speak for the entirety of the ace community in regards to this discourse, I thought why not make a poll just to gauge out the general opinion
Disclaimer: This poll might not turn out entirely accurate given that there's always a possibility some people won't answer truthfully or throw this poll into an echo chamber with people who agree with them.
Disclaimer 2: I'm leaving reblogs open because I want the poll to reach more people but please for the love of god don't start a fight in the notes.
About Option 3: The distinction here is that you're fine with people portraying an asexual / aromantic character as anywhere on the ace / aro spectrum as long as they actually put in the effort to portray a sex-favorable ace or a romance-favorable ace and their experiences as opposed to just making the character allo.
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correlance · 2 months
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On Episode 5 of "Hazbin Hotel", the fandom, and the treatment of Charlastor shippers
I'm getting really tired of all of the "Haha, I always hated Charlastor, we won, and you lost, fuck you!" people on Tumblr being rude, mean, or even downright mocking and cruel to the people who like Charlastor. No, I don't think that "Vivziepop hates Charlastor", or that there was some sort of conspiracy to "torpedo the Charlastor ship". If she did, she wouldn't have said, to paraphrase, "ship anyone you want from the show". (Hell, she once paired Vaggie and Angel Dust.)
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Charlastor shippers have already known for a long time that Charlastor was never going to be canon, so Episode 5 doesn't really change anything we didn't already know. Shipping is supposed to be about fun, not "winning". If you ship Charlastor, that's okay. If you don't ship or like Charlastor, that's okay, too. However, making posts or comments saying "fuck you" to Charlastor shippers, or tagging anti-Charlastor posts as "#charlastor", is deeply rude and offensive.
Harassing or bullying Charlastor shippers is also unacceptable.
I don't think Vivziepop would approve, and as a "fandom oldie" (30+) who also has friends in animation, me and my personal friends are going to keep liking and shipping Charlastor, regardless of what is - or is not - "canon". I suggest other Charlastor shippers do the same.
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mallowtonmouse · 4 months
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Instead of reblogging that horrible post about gatekeeping asexuality 'again' (did anyone really ever stop?), why not reblog a nice, thoughtful comic about it instead! <3
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pep-rambles · 1 month
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While I can't speak for other Alastor ships (but I'll tag you all and you can weigh in). But in the RadioApple/DuckieDeer fandom a lot of those making fanwork, including the smuttier stuff, are acespec/arospec themselves so maybe learn what is actually going on in these fandoms before try to gatekeep in their tags
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cannibalistic-deer · 3 days
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It baffles me that I've seen people say "Alastor is canonically sex and touch repulsed" as a reason people "shouldn't" be shipping Alastor sexually/romantically.
Why assume that the sex repulsion applies to every relationship in his life, permanently? Some aces are sex favorable, or may develop more favorable feelings for specific people, even if otherwise repulsed.
And the same applies to touch repulsion. That's such a weak argument. Alastor canonically, and very clearly, is okay with or possibly even enjoys touch in specific situations. He does seem to be touch repulsed in general, but again, there are specific people it doesn't apply to. (Rosie is the best example, since with anyone else it is more brief, but Rosie touches him, and is the one initiating that, frequently.)
All types of attraction, or comfort levels with different manners of affection, are fluid. This isn't ever an excuse to invalidate real people who are telling you their identities, but it does mean that assumptions really can't be made about what a person would or wouldn't do.
And this type of thinking is what really leads to invalidating real people, because even if you think "being asexual means never having sexual attraction," and then an ace person shares that they think they might have experienced sexual attraction at some point but still identify as ace... then you have to be open to that. You cannot put sexualities in boxes. This applies to all sexualities.
I'm a fictive of Alastor myself, and I am sex repulsed, so I understand the discomfort, but I also understand that people are not harming any real, living person by making fanworks where Alastor is having sex. It also doesn't mean they're inherently rejecting his asexuality.
If people want to ignore Alastor being aroace completely, that's different. Alastor is canonically aroace (or asexual at minimum), and he always will be. But jumping to conclusions about what people think because you're too naive and stubborn to understand that sexuality and attraction doesn't fit into tidy little boxes is harmful and is a way of thinking that must be changed.
This became longer than intended because I was mostly thinking about the "Alastor is touch repulsed to everyone!" claims some people make, which are frankly incompatible with canon. But the rest of this post is also true.
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nunalastor · 20 days
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Ok, but if ya'll are expecting Alastor to top, you all have to be joking. I get he had Big Daddy Energy when he's being the Big Bad Radio Demon and isn't scared to backtalk people who legitimately are more powerful than him... but just LOOK at him! He's a skinny twink who's skittish about any intimacy or physical touch! Lucifer may not seem like it, but he's pulled the first two women in existence, one of whom was explicitly made FOR Adam's taste! The Devil himself! Yeah, in Radioapple, Alastor ain't gonna be topping.
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is the daddy energy in the room with us
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risesthenight · 2 months
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if u ship alastor with other characters and see nothing wrong with it, then u shouldn’t be mad at ppl shipping angel dust with women
“but he’s gay!! he doesn’t like women!!” yes and alastor is aroace and doesn’t like anyone but suddenly that’s when it’s okay to break canon right ??
neither instances r okay btw
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woomycritiques543 · 1 year
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Ok so...
I got in contact with Starlatte, and she send me this two hours ago:
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Yeah.... that was a ton and a half to take in. Either way, shit's getting out of hand, and regardless of whatever takes this kid had, you people are still stalking them?! Seriously?! Because I checked, and the worst she did was have petty arguements and support anti h blogs over three years ago. Otherwise, there's legit no "reason" to go after her blog anymore! Hell, there's never a "reason"! Stalking and harassing a kid is fucked no matter how many contexts that you try to explain your actions. This isnt holding who she was (not is) accountable, its just going after some kid you met on Tumblr a few years ago and getting entertainment off of it while simatainously being desperate for said kid's attention. It's pathetic.
Who someone is in the past and who they are now isnt the same person. Especially- if she already moved on years ago! But that's it. No more of the "What The Hazbin, Cherri, Petitit Princess" garbage or whatever is going to be on this blog. I want no involvement with any of these people, none of their petty bullshit, and would rather just stay out of the "anti hazbin" lane entirely. I wont be involved, I dont want to be involved- and frankly, im done with being involved with any of this "drama" (stalking) as to give this any more attention would just be a complete waste of my time. IM DONE.
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nyancreeperpony · 1 month
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Alastor Shipping Discourse is so weird to me, because, on one hand, I get where people are coming from when it comes to being against shipping him.
But on the other hand, I'm pretty sure that a good percentage of the artists I follow on Insta who do ship him with other characters are some flavor of aro and/or ace.
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fanby-fckry · 1 month
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🕸️ angie-fluffy-bootz Follow
24 min. ago
time sensitive question how flirt boy
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2 min. ago
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thanks guys
#the fucking radio demon parody account replied to my post #with extremely UNHELPFUL advice #and charlie #is ur advice unisex? #bcuz if thats how you got vaggie #im judging you both #irl source
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⚪️ Anonymous said
r u dead?
📻 real-radio-demon Follow
4 hr. ago
Ha! Bold of you to assume I can be killed :)
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4 hr. ago
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Show your face and per’’haps,’,’. I’ll come~.to you
🎀 charlies-angel Follow
32 min. ago
This account is fake. Nobody knows where Alastor is, anon. Stop wasting your time.
#this parody account is in really poor taste
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🕸️ angie-fluffy-bootz Follow
Jul 1
if I make it outta this alive, I’m gonna tell my crush I’m in love with him.
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Jul 1
fuck
🕸️ angie-fluffy-bootz Follow
1 hr. ago
ya know, I don’t think I’ve confessed to someone and meant it in over a decade?
🕸️ angie-fluffy-bootz Follow
53 min. ago
haha would it be crazy if I said I forgot how?
#its literally part of my job to flirt with people #then i catch feelings and suddenly #i get all tongue-tied #i cant fall back on my old scripts either #he hates bullshit #he wants me #the real me #but the real me doesnt know how to do this!!!
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💀 be-gay-do-crym Follow
2 hr. ago
apparently people are canceling @.niffty-lady ? wtf?
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1 hr. ago
they are and it’s actually the stupidest thing i’ve ever seen
#and the bar was really fucking low #considering the amount of dumb chaotic bullshit my dad gets into ↯ #niffty lady
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👓 creepz0 Follow
3 hr. ago
It’s time to CANCEL @.niffty-lady
Here’s why:
Niffty LITERALLY KILLED a man in cold blood and now PROFITS off of his death
This so-called “lady” is INCREDIBLY rude to fans, ignoring requests leaving fans on read and answering asks with a NASTY attitude. NOT very lady-like if you ask me
Is associated with the VERY PROBLEMATIC @.real-radio-demon (self explanatory)
Writes TOXIC and PROBLEMATIC ships (spidermoth, radiohusk, reylo 🤢)
Writes NSFW when she herself is CHILD-CODED
PROOF is under the cut ⬇️
. Keep reading
#callout post ↯ #niffty lady #anti niffty lady #niffty critical
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📻 real-radio-demon Follow
3 hr. ago
Despite popular belief, I am not dead!
Well, not any deader than I’ve been since 1933! Hahaha!
↯ #is alastor dead? #ha! no ↯ #alastor the radio demon #real radio demon broadcasts
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⚪️ Anonymous said
isn’t it disrespectful to write fics about someone you killed irl?
🪡 niffty-lady Follow
4 hr. ago
I have no respect for Adam. Hope this helps! <3
#answered ask #anon ask
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📺 voxblr4k Follow
5 hr. ago
Is the radio demon dead?
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. 96,460 votes • remaining time 6 days, 19 hours
#polls ↯ #alastor the radio demon ↯ #is alastor dead?
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🪡 niffty-lady Follow
6 hr. ago
Forbidden Fruit
Adam x Reader | 10k words | Rated E
⚠️ Major Character Death
Tags: Smut, Whump, Sinner Reader, Forbidden Love, Bad Ending
After a night of reckless passion, you quickly became Archangel Adam’s favorite sin. Your love, as forbidden as the fruit of Eden, was destined to end in tragedy.
https://archiveofoursouls.hell/works/63595697
#niffty lady fic #adam x reader #angel x sinner #sinner reader #smut #whump #forbidden love #bad ending #rpf #aoos link #aoos fanfic
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📻 real-radio-demon Follow
6 hr. ago
Well, it looks like I’ve got some time on my hands!
I’m sure many of you have burning questions you’d like answered
So, ask. me. any’,thing. :)
#ask me anything #ama ↯ #alastor the radio demon #real radio demon broadcasts
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🐍 x-hiss-lord-x Follow
Dec 12, 2019
i can't have beef with the power of friendship trope because if someone wanted to hang out with me i'd probably reconsider my stance on turning the city into the 10th circle of hell
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Dec 12, 2019
besides i can always just redirect my dark urges towards being violently protective of my new friends. there's no rule that says you can't do that.
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7 hr. ago
I found Sir Pentious’s old voxblr blog, and I think I’m gonna cry
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7 hr. ago
He made the ultimate sacrifice to protect his friends and the hotel during the extermination. He did exactly what he said he would in this post.
I wish I could thank him for everything he did for us. And I wish I could’ve done a better job of protecting him.
I don’t know where Souls go when they get erased; I don’t know if they go anywhere at all. But I hope that wherever Sir Pentious is now, he’s with people that he considers his friends.
#rip Sir Pentious #we miss you #irl source
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📻 real-radio-demon Follow
8 hr. ago
↯ #alastor the radio demon #real radio demon broadcasts #the ink spots #we’ll meet again #Voxify
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9 hr. ago
Fanby’s Fake Dash Masterpost
#meta #fake tumblr dash
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casualbuttercupblog · 2 months
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*ahem* SHIPPING AN AROACE CHARACTER WITHOUT REGARD TO THEIR ROMANTIC ORIENTATION IS JUST AS BAD AS SHIPPING A GAY MAN WITH A WOMAN 📣📣📣
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