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jeyneofpoole · 1 month
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selkiewife · 9 months
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BLADE IN HAND
Histories & Lore of Westeros- Greyjoy Rebellion
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racefortheironthrone · 10 months
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I wonder if Robert didn´t even feel some peevish schadenfreude at Balon humiliating Tywin by burning his whole fleet.
Which by the way seems wrong: Tywin is THE guy who never forgets a slight. Shouldn´t he be absolutely mad at the ironorn and hellbent on destroying the Greyjoys? 
Yeah, probably. I also think that it's a great example of how Tywin actually sucks - he forbade Fair Isle from having a navy to defend itself from the Ironborn, then built this floating vanity project that pales in comparison to the Iron Fleet or the Redwyne Fleet, then lost it all without firing a shot.
He absolutely is - it's just that his chosen method of destroying the Greyjoys is to sic the Boltons on them. Two birds with one stone.
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jedimaesteryoda · 6 months
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What changes if Lord Quellon is the only Greyjoy to return home from the Battle of the Mander alive, in your opinion?
You mean if all his sons died instead of him: Balon, Victarion, Aeron and Euron?
That would change things significantly. He was already not keen on Iron Islands' independence and losing his sons would have undoubtedly affected him on a personal level. He would likely stay out of war after that.
That means no Greyjoy Rebellion, and the Reader's sons and many Ironborn don't die. That also means Theon doesn't go to Winterfell. It also means no Ironborn invasion of the North, no sack of Winterfell, no Ramsay taking power and Robb doesn't marry Jeyne. Robb has no urgency to go back north, and no broken marriage betrothal means no Red Wedding.
Podrick Payne's father also doesn't die, meaning Podrick will likely grow up with a healthy father figure. 🤗 It means Pod doesn't squire for Tyrion and Brienne, and Mandon Moore kills Tyrion on the Blackwater. It also means no tourney of Lannisport after the Greyjoy Rebellion meaning Jorah never meets Lynesse, and he never goes to Essos.
Quellon would continue his measures to curtail the Old Way without Balon undoing them. However, there is the question of Balon's sons Rodrik and Maron who sound very much in the mold of their father and their uncles going by what Theon said. They could be a ticking time bomb.
Does Quellon live to see the War of Five Kings? If so, he will likely stay out. If he is dead, and Rodrik Greyjoy is the new Lord of the Iron Isles, then he will get into the war. Of course, he may seek Iron Isles independence, but he would target the Westerlands the way Balon did when he first rebelled rather than the North.
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sebeth · 1 year
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Who Ran King’s Landing During The Greyjoy Rebellion?
A random thought that occurred to me while trying to sleep last night: Do we know who oversaw King’s Landing when Robert’s forces were subduing the Iron Islands during Balon Greyjoys’s rebellion?
The members of the small council known to be at the Iron Islands were Robert Baratheon, Stannis Baratheon, and Barristan Selmy.
I’m eliminating Varys, Littlefinger, and Cersei as candidates. There is no way a eunuch master of whispers and a low-born coin counter were left in charge of the realm. And Littlefinger would surely have reminisced in his viewpoint chapters if he was in control of the realm. Cersei also doesn’t recall ruling the realm in Robert’s absence. And Robert was definitely leery of letting Cersei having power.
Do we know if Jon Arryn went to the Islands? He may have felt that as Hand of the King he should have gone with Robert but he was also 1) quite elderly and 2) the only remaining trustworthy member of the council to run King’s Landing.
Renly would have been around 12 years old so he would be too young to be appointed to the council. Who was Master of Laws before Renly?
It comes down to Jon, the unknown master of laws, or a short-term “hand of the king” replacement/castellan? I’m not sure who that would be though – all the obvious choices were at the Iron Islands.  Ned and Stannis accompanied Robert. Tywin or Kevan Lannister would be a wise choice but I can’t imagine Tywin being willing to stay behind after the Iron Islanders destroyed the Lannister fleet. He’s not one to suffer a humiliation without exacting retribution. Where Tywin goes, Kevan follows. Maybe Hoster Tully if his sickness hadn’t started yet. Renly is eliminated again due to his youth.
So were left with Jon Arryn, the unknown master of laws, or a temporary castellan. I’m leaning towards Jon Arryn remaining in King’s Landing but does anyone have a definite answer?
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warsofasoiaf · 9 months
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Greyjoy Rebellion anon here; where do you think the Northerners set sail from? Somewhere like Barrowton maybe, or would they march down to Seagard?
I think Eddard probably marched to Seagard to meet with Robert's forces, hence why both of them assaulted Pyke. Robert probably broke forces up, hence why Barristan and Stannis assaulted separate islands, and we presume Tywin did, along with any other senior commanders like Bronze Yohn or Randyll Tarly.
Thanks for the question, Anon.
SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King
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rosaluxembae · 1 year
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I've tweeted before about long traditions of religious tolerance in Westerosi society (something they actually share with both Valyria and many of the Free Cities) and it's true but there's a couple of things I want to add after reading more.
First is that religious tolerance in the Iron Islands declined after Greyjoy's Rebellion. This is referenced a few times. Asha remembers "The woman was so old that a septon had once said she must have nursed the Crone. That was when the Faith was still tolerated on the isles." On the other hand, character like Baelor Blacktyde are able to openly display their faith so it looks like the Faith of the Seven is not tolerated as an institution (septs closed, septons expelled) but it's permitted in term of individuals' beliefs.
The other is the War of the Five Kings has led to its decline in the South (ie in Lannister territory/the Crownlands/the middle really). It's less pronounced than the Iron Islands (let alone Melisandre being literally the worst) but you start to see increasing bigotry towards the Old Faith (and even ethnic bigotry towards the First Men). This is particularly pronounced when Janos Slynt turns up at the wall and uses it to attack Jon in his not-quite-a-trial but the Cersei etc make comments about it too. One of the Sparrows' main things is "demon worship" and Cersei latches onto that and says the Old Gods and R'hllor are demons. Tbh idk if that's what the Sparrows actually mean but they don't seem to complain so kinda makes sense tbh.
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beyondmistland · 1 year
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Who do you think had command of the assaults on Harlaw, Orkmont, Saltcliffe, and the Lonely Light, during the Greyjoy Rebellion? Additionally, do you have any headcanons for how those battles would have played out in general?
We know Eddard was with Robert on Pyke and that Stannis took Great Wyk while Barristan lead the attack on Old Wyk, which leaves only Tywin and Paxter for Harlaw and Orkmont. We don't actually know at this point whether there was a landing on Saltcliffe but in any event I nominate Arys Oakheart's predecessor. As for the Lonely Light, I doubt anyone bothered with it assuming the Farwynds even got the memo in time to do something.
Thanks for the question, anon
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redrikki · 19 days
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Making Sense of the Greyjoy Rebellion
General fandom consensus is that the Greyjoy Rebellion was dumb as shit, but I want to talk about the ways in which it actually made a lot of sense. See, people don’t just rebel for fun. They do so because their situation is so intolerable and the potential rewards are so great that they feel they can’t not act. It’s also important to remember that Balon did not rebel alone. He did so with the full support of his lords and the Drowned Men, both of whom had their own compelling reasons for doing so.
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jeyneofpoole · 8 months
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selkiewife · 9 months
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Remember when Game of Thrones would put out these amazing History and Lore of Westeros shorts narrated by cast members in character? This one is the Greyjoy Rebellion: Theon Greyjoy short. There are also shorts of the Greyjoy Rebellion from Stannis' and Robb's perspective. If you want to know more about the various episodes, here is an overview with links to the episode descriptions: Histories & Lore.
Though I'd listened to the Greyjoy ones, most of these are new to me. So I'm excited to listen. I've put the transcript to Theon's narration under the cut but I definitely recommend actually listening to it so you can hear the way he describes Thoros of Myr's "ridiculous" flaming sword (so Theon), as well as the way he describes Balon's line about kneeling in order to rise again, blade in hand, which was a line directly from Asha's POV chapters in the books. I also really enjoyed the way he said "It would be his duty," so bitterly when talking of how Ned would have to behead him at the end.
Theon VO (Alfie Allen): When Aegon and his dragons burned Harren the Black and all his sons at Harrenhal the days when men feared the sight of our longships were over. Aegon would not permit marauders and raiders in his seven kingdoms. With Harren died our empire and the old way that forged it.
But what is dead may never die. Six years after Robert Baratheon won his crown, my father Balon Greyjoy sought to restore our ancient rites. He declared the Iron Islands independent and himself its king and sent the iron fleet in a daring raid on Lannisport where they burned the Lannister ships at anchor making us unchallenged in the Sunset Sea. This was the seed of our undoing.
My eldest brother Rodrik led a frontal assault on Seagard, a town built to protect the mainland from us. After ferocious fighting beneath the city walls, he was slain by Lord Jason Mallister and his men defeated. By this time Stannis Baratheon had brought Robert's fleet around Westeros and somehow managed to trap the iron fleet at Fair Isle, smashing it. Robert's victory was now all but assured. But we made him bleed for each island.
Stannis Baratheon captured Great Wyk, the largest of the Iron Islands and Ser Barristan Selmy himself subdued Old Wyk. Robert and Lord Eddard Stark led the main assault against the island of Pyke. They razed the town of Lordsport to the ground before Robert turned his full fury on our family stronghold. When they breached the walls the first through was Thoros of Myr with his ridiculous flaming sword followed by every minor Lord of Westeros hungry for glory.
My other brother Marin was killed when the siege engines brought down a tower on his head. I was now my father's only living son and heir to the Iron Islands. When my father saw his cause was lost, he wisely conceded defeat to Robert who otherwise would have pulled down our castle stone by stone with us in it. As my father said to me then, "No man has ever died from bending his knee. He who kneels may rise again, blade in hand. He who will not kneel stays dead, stiff legs and all."
As it stands, Robert allowed my father to keep his lands and title as Lord of the Iron Islands, King of Salt and Rock, Son of the Sea Wind, Lord Reaper of Pyke, for a price- his last son and heir shipped off to Winterfell as an honored guest.
I would eat at the Stark's table and play with the Stark children and if my father rebelled again Lord Eddard Stark would take his sword and cut off my head. It would be his duty.
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racefortheironthrone · 9 months
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Regarding the Greyjoy Rebellion, we know Stannis Baratheon sailed the Royal Fleet around Westeros to defeat Victarion Greyjoy at Fair Isle - presumably, after Stannis’ victory, Robert’s forces would have marched overland to the West Coast to ferry over to the Iron Islands. My question is a logistical one: would Robert’s force have needed to set sail from one fixed location (Seagard? Lannisport? Oldtown?), or would each force essentially set off from wherever made sense for them geographically? Like, I’m sure Robert would eventually link up with the Riverlords, Valemen and Reachmen to set sail from Lannisport or wherever, but wouldn’t the entire host all need to wait around for Eddard Stark’s banner men to finally be assembled?
I would imagine they probably would have set off as three separate contingents - the Warden of the West's army, Robert's army, and the Warden of the North's army - and probably from whatever port was closest. Lannisport would be the logical embarcation point for Tywin's army, Seagard would be the closet for Robert's army unless he loaded all his forces onto Stannis' ships at King's Landing and went the long way round, etc.
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ludcake · 7 months
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think itd have been so interesting if the iron islands had been subjected to a foreign lord paramount until the greyjoy rebellion. the tension of the greyjoy rebellion, it validates balon as a leader, it emphasizes the old ways as a return to tradition precipitated by a newfound cultural unity, it contextualizes the disdain for greenlanders, it gives direct momentum to house greyjoy, it contextualizes the iron islands as both repressed and oppressed. think itd be cool if the lord of harrenhal was also the traditional lord of the iron islands, who doesnt even live in the islands, doesnt know its people, lives in a wreck of a decaying castle and yet gains the taxes and iron from the islands......
plus it contextualises the jockeying for the seat of harrenhal in a very fun way to me
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alannybunnue · 1 year
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Ok, We Made History: Westeros x Demigod!Reader
Yes, i am already making the masterlist, since i already can see that this is gonna be a long one with many different eras of the story.
So let's anticipate the chaos
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The reader, Daughter of the Drowned God
The Eras and their Myths
Her pet
Her titles
The Iron Throne Curse
How the Faith views this situation and The Pretenders (The Pretenders Part 2)
Meera The Pretender (her ending fate)
Her Favorites
Elenei, her oldest sister
Her people and the origins of her trust
Aegon's Conquest:
The Beginning
Her first encounter with the Dragons
Harren Hoare and Argilac Durrandon
The Storm God true motives and the beginning of a war
She is taken by the Sky
Dance of the Dragons
She was tricked
Who stole her?
Daemon and the necklace
Blackfyre Rebellion
Aegon IV causes a war for the Demigoddess
The great bastards fighting for the reader
She runs away with Shiera Seastar
Robert's Rebellion
Rhaegar using Lyanna to supress his feelings for the Demigoddess
Rhaegar tries to run with the Demigoddess
Her betrothed shall take her away
She saved Elia Martell
Game of thrones
Reader leaves the Iron Islands to live in Winterfell with Theon. (First concept of it)
The Demigoddess adopted Theon
Unspecific Eras:
Maegor fucked up real bad and now Westeros is paying for it
Aerea Targaryen used as a message from the Drowned god
Baelor the Blessed and the Demigoddess
Shiera and the Drowned God became besties
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A/N: That's mostly it, i hope i didn't forgot any major Era, if i did, hit me with a rock, will ya?
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warsofasoiaf · 9 months
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Regarding the Greyjoy Rebellion, we know Stannis Baratheon sailed the Royal Fleet around Westeros to defeat Victarion Greyjoy at Fair Isle - presumably, after Stannis’ victory, Robert’s forces would have marched overland to the West Coast to ferry over to the Iron Islands. My question is a logistical one: would Robert’s force have needed to set sail from one fixed location (Seagard? Lannisport? Oldtown?), or would each force essentially set off from wherever made sense for them geographically? Like, I’m sure Robert would eventually link up with the Riverlords, Valemen and Reachmen to set sail from Lannisport or wherever, but wouldn’t the entire host all need to wait around for Eddard Stark’s banner men to finally be assembled?
If it was anything like the Crusades, then probably each force set off from the place that made sense with a meeting point in mind. Once the Iron Fleet was taken care of at Fair Isle, the oceans would be clear enough to organize for a coordinated landing, or at least what passed for one with medieval levels of technology and communication.
Thanks for the question, Anon.
SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King
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