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this is so long please read if it interests you and skip if it doesnt i genuinely just couldnt stop thinking of things to add.
i used to wonder why antisemites would constantly make up criticisms about zionism that are either blatantly false or a misunderstanding of facts. especially when jewish antizionists have consistently been able to find real criticisms of zionism and analyze them based on jewish history and personal experience (tbh i dont consider any goyim to be antizionist or zionist but that's not the point). it's definitely not a problem of "valid criticisms of zionism dont exist". even when i dont agree with jewish antizionists i usually understand how they got to their conclusion and i find it fully respectable. also when i say factual/valid criticisms i dont just mean shit i personally agree with. im a zionist with plenty of criticisms about the movement (yeah I know it's ironic). all i mean by that is a criticism of zionism that is backed up by facts.
imo antisemites either explicitly or implicitly know that if they look up factual criticisms of zionism they'll also have to learn about the positive stuff. it's all intertwined. to a lot of jewish people this isnt that big of a deal. we're raised to ask questions and we're taught how to formulate a good argument from a young age. its pretty normal for us to critique things that we generally support or find postives in things we generally critique. however, goyim are much less likely to be raised this way. obviously some are but the dichotomy of good and bad is much more prevalent in goyische culture than jewish. of course we know some shit is good and other shit is bad, we're not fuckin idiots, but nuance is integral to us.
i dont know what it feels like to be raised in a culture with a strong difference between good and bad. it doesnt make sense to me at all. however id assume that that upbringing combined with social media, which favors quick, shocking information, would result in something like goyim constantly glazing over factual critcisms of zionism and just making shit up. the made up shit is simultaneously more gut-wrenching and easier to digest due to its simplicity. it's really fucking hard to accept that zionism is so complex if youve been taught that things are always just good or bad. and even harder if your activism began and ended with social media instead of a medium that favors long-form content.
you cannot research zionism without being whacked in the face with nuance. its the reason i research zionist history more than zionist theory because that shit is so confusing sometimes (said with love). learning about zionism isn't an easy task at all. ive been doing it seriously for around 5 years and casually since i was a small child and i still learn shit every day. if i studied zionism for hours every day id probably still have something to learn when i die.
antisemites do not like being called antisemites, so they try to learn things about jewish history and then fail. they dont actually care about the information they just want to seem like they know something. they are not doing this for the benefit of jewish people. they wont actually spread true jewish history or recommend jewish creators that could share correct information. they'll instead say bare minimum shit that makes themselves feel proud for saying the word "jewish" and their followers are making death threats towards zionists.
ive seen some goyim say some factual things about zionism and stay in their lane while doing so, both things i rlly appreciate. and time and time again they're met with antisemitic conspiracies, death threats, doxxing, etc. not as much as jewish people are but still a lot. most people are not ready and may never be ready to support jews through the good and the bad.
this ties into the idea of the "innocent" victim. the one who is pure and kind, who never said a bad word about anyone and saved baby mice from fires. this idea of the innocent victim exists in war, abuse, crime, literally anywhere where someone's human rights are violated. however even if someone is innocent in a particular situation most people are not 100% good and innocent all the time. there's a few exceptions like babies (although i do know some babies that are fucking assholes) but in general people are a mix of good and bad.
jewish people do not shy away from being both good and bad. we embrace it with open arms and even though we try to improve our bad traits we dont fear them. "the only good jew is a dead jew" is fitting because when someone is dead you can make so much up. you can pretend they were incapable of every doing anything even remotely bad. you can say the poor jew who died was your biggest inspiration even though you scoffed at them every time they opened their mouth.
and this is why antisemites hate zionism so much and love making up false critcisms. because it throws concepts like black and white morality, the desire to consume information quickly, and the innocent victim into the fucking mud. then it punches it and steps on it and kicks it. anything and anyone that favors simple information over complicated information, not matter how incorrect, is going to have a hard time discussing zionism. people want to know things, yet sometimes they dont wanna actually put in the work to learn the correct information from good sources because that's hard work and antisemites do not want to put in hard work regarding jewish history.
if you believe im gonna solve antisemitism singlehandedly then who the fuck do you think i am. this isnt going away anytime soon. however you can do shit to help. study zionism on your own time and develop your own opinions on it. i highly recommend focusing on 1-3 specific topics trust me it's really confusing otherwise. teach others about it when you feel safe to do so. share resources with them and encourage them to do their own research. maybe point them to a specific aspect that relates to an interest they already have, and if you're mentally able to handle it call out antisemitic misinformation. a lot of people will not listen but there will always be at least one person who just needs a little bit of help starting.
anyway i may do actual research on this in the future because observations and i might turn it into a proper essay. I'll write one version where i say fuck and another where I don't.
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st-louis · 3 years
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i know a lot of people here love john mulaney but i have despised him since his “jokes” about his wife’s judaism and calling her a bitch on stage as the punchline of a joke so anna, i know it hurts now, but i wish you a very happy divorce. 
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jewishraypalmer · 3 years
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Ok let's get the Nazi crossover over with:
Part 1
Literally forgot about Guardian Jimmy Olsen if I'm being honest
100% not into the whole "what if superheroes were Nazis" narrative people in comic book worlds like to ALWAYS play with. Like why are y'all like this??
Ray made so many toys for team Flash and yet wasn't invited to the wedding like what??? But MICK was?? Make it make sense!!
Awww I miss Jeremy Jordan so much 😭
I'm so upset all over again why couldn't y'all let Martin run off and be happy with his family like WHY???
Lmao Sara's patented smelling opportunities face
Remember when we all thought she was going to be Dawn lol
This song is the best thing Pasek and Paul have ever done yeah I SAID WHAT I SAID
They should have utilized Keiynan's Dance Academy moves in his fighting more often tbh
Hashtag melting pot is definitely top 5 worst and cringey Arrowverse lines ever
Part 2
Omg I forgot until just now!! My boy Tommy 😭😭😭 they are always doing him so dirty!!
To me, Harry will always be the supreme Wells
Can't believe they did this to Felicity and Stein I always hated this
I love Melissa. So much. But...her acting as Nazi Supergirl is...uh...not great. I'm sorry but I gotta be honest about it.
Damn Kreisberg hadn't been fired by this point? Fucking crazy
"You're the closest thing I've got to a father and now you're leaving" I would like to sue the CW
Anyway fun fact time: The reason why most superheroes are created by Jewish people is because back in the day, Jews couldn't get jobs and comics was seen as a lesser medium so they were allowed to do that work so LOL goyim the joke is on you
The reason why I haven't commented on the Nazi Oliver/Kara stuff is bc I don't wanna talk about it lol let's just ignore it
I still feel ill at that concentration camp part like I really would like to sue somebody
TBC after a little break
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Ahh yes the Polycule all being polyglots too. Poly-everything. But in all seriousness, Mel is so... charmed by their partners speaking other languages. Especially Spanish. And ugh imagining them traveling together and all translating for each other and oh god the pet names and introducing each other to new places/cities/foods ahhh.
hdbdidnsidn well i mean it's kind of canon since obviously raphael grew up in méxico, simon is hinted to speak spanish since he understands when raphael speaks in it and also uses some words with him from time to time, and emeraude refused to say "rosa" with an US american accent (which. sexy of her) meaning it's heavily implied that izzy speaks spanish because her pronunciation is, obviously, perfect.
and yeah i just. look. meliorn loves hearing different languages and thinks they all sound beautiful (i kind of have a headcanon that seelies can speak all languages? like including tree and animal languages and shit. like some magical stuff? yeah) and they know it brings raphael in particular great joy to call them pet names in spanish. and well, if it brings them great joy to hear it too, that's just a bonus. but simon and izzy notice and start calling them bella and princesa and mi amor too and aaaaaaaaa
and simon also speaks yiddish as we know (i know that some ppl hc him as a Sephardi Jew and i dont mean to invalidate that hc, im just saying that because he calls his grandma bubbe. maybe he's both?). and.... okay i looked it up for several hours and maybe it’s just because i’m stupid but most endearment terms i found in yiddish were said to be for children? but also i do love the idea of simon calling mel/rapha/maia “oytser” (treasure) and even with petnames aside, yiddish just..... has so many beautiful words??* and meliorn (and also maia and rapha of course) love hearing him talk about it and learning all those great words, from insults to beautiful descriptions. and it feels so important for simon too because he already had very few opportunities to speak yiddish outside of his home, and he’d hate to feel like another part of being Jewish was being taken from him when he was already losing most of his family, you know? plus, it’s kind of one of his special interests and it’s nice that he can monologue about yiddish and everyone is genuinely interested. and raphael of course partially understands how he feels about the language (not fully, since it isn’t really simon’s first language, and there are particular complications with being Jewish and the fear of losing your Jewish identity/culture that just don’t apply for goyim, but still, as an immigrant, there’s solidarity there) 
*a few of my faves that i came across researching yiddish for this: nakhes (”proud pleasure, special joy--particularly from the achievements of a child”), Kemfer (”a fighter… but one who fights for a cause; an activist”. lowkey obsessed with simon calling his partners that, because.... they are), mechayeh (”literally, something that has brought you back from death to life, and colloquially, something relieving or refreshing” - tbh i love how dramatic yiddish is, reminds me of brazilian portuguese lmao), balebus (”a gracious, welcoming, and considerate host”). 
anyway! i just love the idea that simon and raphael can find some sort of comfort and understanding in each other, despite the fact that by all accounts simon should be (rightfully) wary of raphael’s religion, but raphael is genuinely interested and respectful towards simon’s culture and he understands the fear of straying too far from your roots and losing yourself, the feeling of having your culture shunned and kept to the indoors, the responsability of trying to keep it alive and the feeling of being completely lost when you’re apart from your community. again, it’s different, but... most goyim (for simon) and non-latinos (for raphael) don’t even come close, even among vampires, and it’s nice that they get that
also raphael has no illusions when it comes to catholicism/christianity and he understands why ppl, especially ppl like simon and magnus, would be wary of it, and he feels genuinely humbled and happy that the both of them understand what being catholic means to him and accept that part of him, even if from a distance. like, magnus canonically helped him find his faith again, you know? that’s really, really humbling and a show of love, because the shit catholics put him through - he was literally there to be prosecuted by witch hunters, he watched in real time as christian colonialism tried to tear his homeland (and did tear his family) apart, and still he found it in himself to help raphael find his way back to the religion because it did him good. raphael will never stop being thankful, and humbled, by that. and even if simon sometimes rolls his eyes at the goyishness of raphael’s whole punishment and sacrifice thing or fucking whatever and generally doesn’t get too close to it, he also trusts raphael, and raphael knows that it’s a big deal. and simon loves that raphael knows that it’s a big deal and doesn’t have illusions when it comes to his religion or the role christianity had in oppressing not only simon’s, but thousands of ppl historically. u kno? 
hmmm that was a tangent. also as u (probably) know i’m not Jewish so please let me know if there was anything inaccurate or offensive in what i’ve written.
anyway! polyglotcule. and okay i think those are the languages i can think of (and well simon could also speak ladino if you hc him as a Sephardi Jew) other than the hc that meliorn just knows all languages, which...... i absolutely love and stan tbh??? like yes i know the logistics of that are complicated and that to truly know a language you have to understand its culture and so they’re not exactly fluent as much as they’re able to understand most of them, but look, look. i just love the idea of the polycule travelling around and meliorn talking to ppl for them and simon and maia being super excited and wanting to know, like, everything they can and asking them a billion questions and asking them to translate every sign they come across and every time they do (even as they have literally no way of knowing if meliorn is correct or not) they’re just like WOAAAA and generally being huge goofy nerds about it. and izzy and raphael have a more held back approach but they’re also clearly so impressed and proud of them, even if it’s literally just like, magic
like raphael is just in love and watching them with those soft eyes (especially when simon and maia get all wide eyed and excited about it because he loves them okay) and sometimes their eyes will cross and they share a little smile??? and hold hands???? and it’s super sweet??? and izzy is just smiling at them too, although with that more open, big smile of hers, head tilted to the side a little, while clary huffs because izzy is not paying attention to what she’s saying, even as she’s swishing their linked hands a bit because they’re That Couple. and then every once in a while izzy’ll ask a question of her own, except it’s always something like “how do you say ‘the most beautiful one’ in [language]?” and meliorn smiles and tells her and she’s like “yes, you are” and they laugh and make a joke about flattery and she just winks and smiles
(then she grabs maia’s hand and goes “you all are” and kisses her and clary too, just so they know she doesn’t play favorites. not that they need it, but it’s nice) 
foajhsdoajda im just a slut for the polycule okay
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deadtower · 6 years
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paulabear13 replied to your post: “it’s really rich that poland is giving so much pushback on this bill...”
Wow so next thing you will be saying is that Poland killed Jews and it wasn’t Hitler. It’s enough that Jews say that and belive that themselves. Start looking at history from both sides before you make assumptions.
i mean if this is really and truly the hill you wanna die on, @paulabear13, go right ahead, since you so kindly assumed that i dont know shit about my own fucking peoples’ history
jedwabne is probably the most well-known, a pogrom led by the polish people that rounded up 340 jews and humiliated and beat us before burning us alive. in fact poles actually asked “if it was okay to kill the jews” and then began “brutally killing them” so like idk about you but that sounds kinda like maybe poles were, idk, what’s the word ... responsible ? lmao anyway
next we have the charming kielce pogrom, which was literally a pogrom carried out against fucking holocaust survivors, as if they hadn’t been through hell and back already. it was a blood libel against our people and forty of us died bc some polish kid thought it’d be fun and interesting to blame one of our people for something he didn’t do.
continuing on, we have the lwów pogrom which was largely in part due to us being scapegoats as we consistently fucking are because when someone doesnt want to take the blame for something it’s always the jews at the end of the day who get blamed lmfao. while the main perpetrators were apparently ukranian nationalists i bet everything i own that poles were not fucking innocent considering it happened in poland and “local crowds” are listed as a perpetrator which, you guessed it, means poles had a hand in that shit, too.
poland (like many countries) has a long fucking history of antisemitism that tbh there are too many to even go into but denying that it exists is extremely fucking harmful. anti-jewish violence in poland continued long after the holocaust and continues even today.
and in case you think “well that’s only three pogroms, How Bad Can It Really Be” because for some reason violence against us and our deaths mean nothing to you unless {a} you can politicize them for your own use or {b} the death toll is in the millions (bc for Some Reason y’all care nothing for dead jews unless it’s literal fucking hundreds of thousands of us), here’s a handy rundown of interwar antisemitism that poland perpetrated aaaaall by itself, including banning kosher slaughter, limiting where we can work and what we can do, and forcing us out of the fucking country.
but please, come onto the post of a jew who literally studies jewish history and tell me i dont know what im talking about lmfao
goyim can and fucking should reblog. also @mention them because they apparently blocked me which is a real fucking bold move after the bullshit they put on my post
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parchnposies-mod · 6 years
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This is a companion post, the main post will be linked below
( ◞・౪・)click here to go to the main post [Link] Please do not reblog this WITHOUT reblogging the main post as well. 
This is all speculation on my part, but its important to note that you should always ask yourself why someone might have said or done something. Even if the answer is incorrect or you dont agree with it, you might find yourself disagreeing with your most impulsive reactions and taking a calmer approach to the situation.
1) “if you’re not jewish you dont get to say “jew” period“ As we know now, the original sentiment here was “referring to people as a demographic they fit can be offensive and reductive, so instead use their demographic as an adjective (jewish) instead of a noun (jew).” so with that in hand we can clearly see that this is really just someone who’s tired of being called “a jew” in the same way that I am offended when someone calls me “a queer” without knowing if I’m okay with it. Most of the discussion around jewish people is hurtful and 
2&3) “holocaust, hitler, and nazi jokes aren’t funny period“ and “seriously quit saying “grammar nazi”“ keeping in mind that this was a post made in 2014/2015 think about the climate back then. This was back when it wasnt socially acceptable to be an out and out nazi/white nationalist/identitarian/kekistan or whatever the fuck, and a lot of the ways people were saying something was bad or irritating was by calling it a nazi. Both groups actually contributed to making nazis seem less like the horrific thing that they were: a political party that advocated for the genocide of millions. This would be incredibly frustrating to watch, to have people invalidate and joke about the reason your people are less than 1% of the world’s population. 
4&5) “also when the subject of the holocaust or hitler happen to come up DONT TRY TO SAY THAT HITLER WAS DOING WHAT WAS BEST FOR HIS COUNTRY OR THAT HE WAS HUMAN” “SERIOUSLY HE WAS A MASS MURDERER AND DISGUSTING IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD” No controversy around this one, please see my original reply to get my full response to this. But its good to again note why this sort of thing would be prompted to be said at all. One of the common ways people try to make white nationalism/nazi ideology more tolerable is by trying to paint Adolf Hitler as a sympathetic figure. This of course doesnt excuse what he did, but imagine seeing people say “hitler wasnt that bad” “Hitler was only a human being” “hiter was just trying to do what was best for his people.” over and over again. It would be upsetting because of fuckin course it would be. Hell its STILL upsetting. 
6&7) “dont make jokes about us being penny pinchers or greedy or any of that its gross and racist“ and “if youre a goyim dont tell me that “_____ was a very jew thing for me to do”“ I feel like being upset with stereotypes and reacting aggressively is super understandable, especially as a kid in their mid teens. I dont think this really needs further elaboration. Its insensitive and shitty, and makes someone feel bad for doing a “jewish thing” because they feel like behaving like how they are you’re buying into stereotypes. I relate to this specifically when I perform a behavior associated with my stereotypes, such as liking pink (i’m dfab*). My example is really toned down, but i think its a good way to relate because all of us have some dumb stereotype that we can relate to just being like “fuck i cant do x because i might reinforce preconceived notions.
8) “dont use yiddish, goy always mispronounce it and tbh it sounds stupid when you try“ Okay, its really important that i stress here again that OP does NOT agree with this statement anymore. To quote them directly, “i realize now that yiddish should be shared with all. Its not just a Jewish thing anymore“. However its still important to think of why would someone say something like this in the first place. This is where I speculate the most. I personally believe OP said this because yiddish is a part of their culture that they treasured at the time (likely still do) and while they were upset at people speaking it poorly it wasnt just because people were speaking it poorly. They were upset because of everything else in this post. The erasure of their history and the lessening of the severity of what happened to the jewish people through nazi jokes. The cruelty of having your identity stripped away from you beyond just another “jew”. The people sympathizing with Adolf Fuckin Hitler and trying to make him less repulsive and more “understandable” (read: forgivable). People using stereotypes to define your actions as something that “a jew” would do. The mockery of traditions and holidays “because they’re different.” These things are cruel, and when you hold something close to your heart and its attacked, as a child you will usually either react with anger and lash out to defend it, or shrink away from it and be ashamed. I wouldnt even be surprised if OP had at one point been ashamed of their heritage, only to have this post be the result of deciding to be proud of it and shifting far over to the other end of the spectrum past “happy and proud” to “aggressive defense”. 
I feel like i covered points nine to eleven pretty well in #8, but here they are for posterity  
• dont call our traditions weird just cause theyre different • be aware that jewish holidays dont get the same respect from society as christian ones do • seriously our holidays are almost never seen as “a legit reason” to miss work/school
Then finally is 12) “Educate yourself.”  I hope all of you leave this post feeling a little more like you understand what happened here, and more so i hope you have the tools to take a step back from snap judgments and ask yourself whats really going on. What someone really meant. Its not always what it seems at face value!  d(・∀・ ´*)
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