#general discourse

[pride-moth]

I think one of the problems with fandom discourse is how people seem to think that if you make frivolous shipping posts or "my poor little meow meow" posts that's actually all you think about the media in question and that it means you couldn't possibly also have deeper thoughts about it.

I'm not saying fandom brain is never real and some people certainly do get annoying with it, but I do believe most people just enjoy silly-posting on their personal blog and it's not that deep, most of the time.

#fandom #general discourse #look i just think silly little shipping posts are fun #it doesn't mean i'm media illiterate #i do media analysis too but i mostly keep that inside my own brain bc metas take time to write #and i have other shit to do you know

[gunkreads]

Holy shit there is a large subset of people watching WoT S2 who are not having a good fucking time on Tumblr about it! Most of you hare having a good time with the show, about which I'm happy for you, but holy shit log off! At least go to your DMs and talk with friends about it! Now that you know where the asshats are, don't fuckin go there!

I've talked about this before, but I think it's hella weird that people "need" that Fandom Experience to have fun with a story. Like sure, talking about a story with friends is really fun, but that's not the Fandom Experience. People seem to feel the need to be part of some large community that covers their interests, which is frankly a little silly--it's your interest, shouldn't you be able to enjoy it by yourself? I'm not saying you have to all the time, but you should be able to walk into the fandom clubhouse, see a bunch of people swinging axes around, and walk back out! Like holy shit, dude! Unless you're gonna pick up an axe because you enjoy mortal combat, you should leave!

Part of this is me venting at myself, actually, since I keep seeing takes on here that are just absolutely hallucinatorily deranged to me and I wanna dive into the axe party just to get a few good hits in. I know that I don't enjoy leaving soaked in my own blood, though, so I'm not walking in there!

I'll probably make some posts about the season when I get around to watching it, but some of you kids (and I say that in the most denigrating, condescending tone you can imagine) need to like. drink a tall glass of water or something. Jesus christ take care of yourselves. This is not. Healthy. I'm saying this from personal experience: internet shitfights make you a worse person in real life. It's a hard hole to climb out of.

#wheel of time #wot #wheel of time on prime #general discourse

[tucuteboything]

sorry but no <3

getting real tired of the mentality thats beginning to plague mogai spaces along with plural/alterhuman spaces that's basically the homomisic/transmisic equivalent of "nazis have feelings too :("

full offense but I'm not fucking respecting something some queermisic ahole coins in bad faith. I'm stealing that shit, theft is based in the face of the adversary. <3

steal from queermisics their feelings don't matter they're literally queermisic

Stealing shit from bigots is what reclaming is. "b-but it encourages them to do it too" news flash, they were already doing shit like this for decades. wtf do you think "queer slang" is?

If someone coins a fucking flag based around hating something you are fucking reclaim it. mine now asshole <3

If stealing from bigots makes me the asshole? cool, glad it does. fuck them. IDC what their feelings are, the fact is I'm not rolling over like a dog for them to pet my belly telling me I'm a good boy for not lashing out at the types of people to call us freaks and other slurs. I'm already the bigger man by the fact I'm not coining shit about hating a certain minority. Fuck exclus AND their feelings.

#discourse #general discourse #queermisia #transmisia #mogai #imoga #fuck exclus #basically a vent but yeah

[obligatory-decomposition]

Making this post and pinning it to my profile

If you’re not interacting with this site by using it the way it’s supposed to be used (by reblogging)

If you’re only liking posts, or creating them yourself, but not reblogging

You’re getting blocked.

People who’ve migrated from other social medias and don’t interact with tumblr the way it was designed to be interacted with piss. me. off.

So if you’re not going to reblog shit, I’m kicking you off my blog.

Sorry not sorry, you guys have had plenty of warning and enough posts circulating that warn you not to do it.

#tumblr #general discourse #stop just using likes #the reblog button is right there #and if you’re not using it #I’m kicking you off #I’m sick and tired #of this bullshit

[neolunanocte]

If ya create an environment where people don't feel safe to explore and engage in self discovery; Don't be surpised when they end up overtly defensive and/or radicalized.

#Discourse #general discourse #The applies to multiple areas

[nyancrimew]

y'all can stop sending me asks about whether i consider femboy a slur btw, this is stupid fucking discourse. just like any other label it is okay to use for yourself, be it as a gender non conforming guy, a non binary person or even a transfem, but just randomly applying it to other people is obviously shitty and can be done with derogatory intent. most use of the word, especially in queer spaces, such as on tumblr, is self describing or about people who self describe as such. you don't have to be comfortable with the term yourself, or with being called that, but that doesn't mean other people using it for themselves or referring to people who use it for themselves is somehow derogatory. we also don't have discourse about whether tomboy is a slur now do we?

#discourse #femboy #also just generally stop trying to rope me into discourse #i don't fucking care

[the-agent-of-blight]

also, i really find it interesting how people can genuinely go about saying "Well this group isn't attacked for their identity so they can't be queer " while then turning around and. attacking said group. for their identity. and exemplifying classic __-phobic tropes. It's really dumb. You are being the thing that you claim does not exist

#this post is about the current aro discourse nonsense going about but is absolutely more generally applicable. #aromantic #aro #idk about anyone else but i always find the aphobia at least a little bit validating? in a weird way. because they're always saying #'you arent queer if you arent oppressed' or whatever bs. so whenever they turn around and. and attack us for being aro its like #they're showing me (and the rest of everyone) why i must be queer. by their own logic

[cardentist]

I'm not blaming the op of the original post, or trying to imply anything about them as a person. and I don't want to single out this post in particular, because the issue is an broadly reaching trend rather than any one individual happening to write a post in five minutes one time.

but I really Really wish we'd stop and think if it's a good idea to say "girls turning into boys makes them inherently less interesting" on the transgender website

picking a privileged group to be the butt of a joke because it's lighthearted when nobody's actually getting hurt by doing so Only Works when everyone within that group is actually privileged. making jokes about how men are lesser than doesn't Actually affect the people who are actually within power, but Does chip away at the confidence and comfort of marginalized men who are In these communities to be exposed to it.

and the issue isn't about any one joke or poorly worded discussion in particular, but it's difficult to articulate why it can feel so alienating and unsafe to have things like this be so common within my communities without sounding ridiculous or risk being made fun of for not being able to take a joke. because the framing of implied privilege makes it easy to twist those feelings alienation into the entitlement that's assumed with men taking issue with being the butt Of a joke.

I simply think "this type of person is inherently lesser than" should be reexamined and thrown out as a talking point, even in a lighthearted context. because there will always be vulnerable people within those groups who already Hear that they are lesser than for existing

#discourse #transandrophobia #this is more of a vent post than anything but it's thought on my mind #I'm tagging this transandrophobia and called out the existence of trans men and mascs in particular #because I am those things and that's the tag that I use to talk about those issues that affect these things #but this is really about all marginalized men #all men who've been made to feel lesser than in general really

[hgedits]

It doesn't take much to make you feel the way you felt. Back there again. Skin all raw.

#you did it! you broke the generational label/slur discourse down to it's bare essentials! #all of us strangers #filmedit

[bugflies00]

OKAY so what ive been thinking about for ages is ctommy and being soft vs quiet . because i feel like it's one of those things in his fandom characterisation that sparks the most debate and in my opinion theres a huge difference between the two but i keep seeing people mix them together.

ctommy is soft but he's not quiet, and to disregard either of those things is what makes him less believable in fanworks imo

because on one hand, of course he's not quiet, that's the most obvious and i think one of the most commonly accepted qualms that we have with general fan interpretations of him. he doesn't just lie down and take shit, he's always committed to being an annoying shit, he's straight up rude so often, and even just. vocally. man's loud as fuck. i think that's pretty easy to establish .

but then what i find is that sometimes we veer into the other opposite, by completely denying that ctommy is also very soft sometimes. and by this i don't mean he turns into strawberry shortcake or starts being polite or whatever, but it's the fact that he's not just crass and rude. he's very considerate a lot of the time, he just shows it. uh. in his Own Way let's say. he cares for animals so so much, he's always so apologetic when he thinks he's hurt one of them, for fuck's sake he sung to the FLOWERS. he's very soft with nature, with things he's attached to, with things he perceives as weaker than him and needing protection.

the complexity of ctommy and what makes him so hard to grasp is that he's loud, he's brash, he is NOT a perfect quiet victim who suffers in silence, he asks for help, he's rude, he steals stuff, he's annoying as shit; but he's also soft, and incredibly empathetic, and he has no shame in showing that softness for animals or nature or his friends.

ctommy, and this is very much because cctommy himself acts like that a lot, is constantly vacillating between someone with the maturity of a thirteen year old boy who shouts and swears and pretends not to give a shit, and a boy who will stop everything he's doing to look at the sky or a flower or an animal (which does contrast his stereotypical rude teenager persona, because lots of aforementioned thirteen year old boys Would be embarrassed or whatever to do that).

he does BOTH. he's not just quiet and nice and sad and lonely; but he's not just rude and loud and """uncaring""" (if there is one thing ctommy is not i think we can all agree its UNCARING).

and i think this is why a lot of debates around "woobifying" ctommy (who remembers the july 2021 trenches . the butterfly clips.) tend to point any ctommy design that portrays him as soft, cozy, or even leaning into his feminine side as the be-all end-all of reducing his character.

in reality i think that misses the mark a bit because while there IS something to be said for sure about people turning ctommy into Blonde Anime Child #249824 and stripping him of his Very Vibrant character, i don't think that putting him in butterfly clips and skirts erases him in the same way. i think he could very much lean into that kind of thing . as long as he's still flipping off the camera we're all good

TLDR : fans strip ctommy of his loud-and-annoying persona but in avoiding that some forget that he's a character who's not afraid to be soft

#this isn't like. angry or anything btw. there are lots of things that make me angry about fan characterisations but not this #this is more like a general discussion of what i find interesting PLEASE add on!!! #like this is not discourse Lets not get mad peace and love we are all subjects to mischaracterisation and me the first like everyone else❤️ #tommyinnit #c!tommy #mcyt #alex.rambles.txt

[megabuild]

it's actually so weird how people react with such vitriol to the slightest mention of minecraft youtubers like i used to be sympathetic about it because of the whole association with dream and so on but it's gotten to the point where if you've been made aware it's a rich and varied community and you still have that knee jerk reaction of "well they're lame, they're cringe, they're all ugly racist white boys" you are actually just a fucking idiot. i'm sorry. like if you cannot do that most basic level of separation like that there is something fundamentally unformed in your brain you should probably work on

#mine #discourse #i guess #this is a general thing but also about the cat situation sorry i just woke up and it really pissed me off. #im not rbing the post with the addition from op because frankly its just sad. but also im sour on the whole thing now. #id like if she won but what can you do.

[seasononesam]

Stackednatural- 177/327

The Slice Girls (7x13) February 3rd, 2012

#supernatural #spn #dean winchester #sam winchester #spnedit #supernaturaledit #stackednatural23 #* #i've seen the greatest minds of my generation destroyed by the discourse from this episode

[brsb4hls]

Ok, but if you wanna circle that Siken quote around, maybe post the whole thing?

The second part is the important one.

Also, for those who still can't seperate fiction from reality and are obvi already pestering him, because he dared to name that ship:

#richard siken #shipping discourse #again sigh #johnlock #destiel #wincest #the ship is not illegal #but if you did anything Sam and Dean do irl it would be #all of it btw #but I don't see people getting upset about credit card fraud or grave desecration in SPN fics #weird huh? #ship and let ship #or block and blacklist #it really is that simple #also please read more books #that seems to be a general problem these days #I grew up with Bukowski and Roth and Irving #that helps

[mylight-png]

I refuse to be told to "move on" from October 7th. I simply refuse.

You know the thing about trauma? You don't really get the choice to move on. You may be living in the future, but at least a part of your mind is trapped in that horrible moment. Sometimes that part of you can never escape.

Right now, as I'm writing this, I am sitting at my desk in my room. But right now, as I am writing this a part, huge part, of me is still in that airport. That part of me is still staring at my phone, trying to catch its breath but failing. That part of me is still watching in shock as the death count rises, the videos of Hamas's atrocities are broadcasted everywhere I see, the celebration of my people being massacred is burning my eyes. My ears are hearing the wailing sirens from when I was last in Israel. My hands are still feeling the shaking of the walls as the Iron Dome intercepts attempts upon the lives of my family and me. My heart is hurting for each life lost and each family left broken.

My body is here, in January 10th. My mind is not. My mind, and the mind of nearly every Jew is still stuck in October 7th.

Do not think we chose this. If I could choose indifference, if I could choose apathy, if I could choose ignorance, I wouldn't feel so constantly triggered and in pain.

But nobody gets to choose trauma.

This wasn't a unique trauma, a first-time event. Pogroms are nothing new to us, genocides and attempts at such against us aren't anything new, hateful libel and lies are near-constants.

That's part of what made October 7th so much worse.

I grew up hearing about how my great-grandfather lost his entire family to the Holocaust, how my ancestors survived pogroms, how my parents faced systemic antisemitism in the USSR.

We all grew up hearing our parents and grandparents tell us about antisemitism.

And do not think we were ignorant of it. I was well aware that the world is not even close to shedding its deeply ingrained antisemitism.

I was aware of it when I wrote a speech about discussion of modern antisemitism and being told it was "well-written but controversial". I was aware of it when my teacher said I was responding "emotionally, not academically" to an author claiming antisemitism and the Holocaust weren't "that bad".

I was aware of it when a synagogue near me got shot up, a synagogue I've been to. I was aware of it because I had no other choice.

But it had always felt like it was "winding down" from what my parents had told me. Yes what my teacher did was bad but at least he didn't explicitly single me out for being a Jew and intentionally fail me. Yes the feedback for my speech was hurtful but it wasn't like I was being violently censored. Yes the shooting was awful but it wasn't a full-blown pogrom.

I'm not saying my logic was correct. Far from it. But that's how it felt before October 7th.

When October 7th happened I saw that nothing was "winding down" as I had previously thought. People were still just as keen to gleefully cheer on the killing of Jews as they had been. The world is just as slow to act when Jews are being forcibly held and tortured and killed. Blood libel and ideas of the "doctor's plot" are alive and well.

Oct 7th triggered old trauma, Oct 7th was traumatic in its own right, and for most of us, Oct 7th proved that antisemitism isn't going anywhere. It isn't winding down or getting better.

And that kind of pain? That kind of trauma? That sticks with you.

You wouldn't tell any other person to get over their trauma. So what makes it ok to say it to traumatized Jews as we are still processing the largest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust?

That behavior is horrible and inexcusable.

Trauma is trauma, you don't get to decide who does or doesn't have the right to be traumatized. You don't get to decide how people discuss their trauma.

#jumblr #jewish #judaism #jew #proud israeli #israel solidarity #opinion #discourse #antisemitism #trauma #generational trauma

[neolunanocte]

I hate the tendency for people to take things in the most bad faith, least charitable way.

Then using that (way off the point bullshit) to harass them and others.

Wish I had a copy of the "making up a guy to be mad at" post.

Cause that really sums it up.

#discourse #general discourse #This shit is not limited to fandom #People desperate to be bloody fucking bullies #Then try pulling 'moral high ground' #Noughing moral about being an asshole

[faerygardens]

There are more tallulah & tommy fics on ao3 than there are pac & mike fics

#fae.txt #mcyt #qsmp #Idk if this counts as discourse #No hate to dsmp fic writers and crossover fic writers in general #I just find it super annoying how often these fics are just the dsmp with like one qsmp element added and are only tagged qsmp #Like if you’re writing a dsmp fic please tag it as such because some of us aren’t looking for that #I also say this as someone who was a sbi main for the longest time #It’s just rude #Also it’s not just sbi mains who do it btw I’ve seen a lot of dt fics in there too #I hate these fics for the same reason I hate x reader fics: they’re untagged and annoying to filter out