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omghispook · 2 years

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FNaF Theory: The MCI Does Not Happen in 1985, Do Not Claim It Does

There are three currently-popular answers as to when five children going missing at a Freddy Fazbear's Pizza -- the MCI, happens.

1983, before FNaF 4's retro cutscenes

1983, after FNaF 4's retro cutscenes

1985, definitely after FNaF 4's retro cutscenes

Or, rather, it'd be more accurate to say that it's either June 26th, 1983 or June 26th, 1985, but whether FNaF 4's mini-games happen before or after June 26th, 1983 is also up for debate.

The first theory is known as "MCI83," the last theory is known as "MCI85," and there's a weird split with the second theory. Some choose to lump it in with MCI83 because it literally states that it would happen in 1983, but some choose to lump it in with MCI85 since whether it happens before or after FNaF 4's retro cutscenes is the much more important aspect of it and many theorists just settle on the year of 1985 but agree it doesn't really matter.

But this is FNaF theorizing. Everything that doesn't matter, matters.

As such, there's evidence that the MCI happens before FNaF 4, after FNaF 4, in 1983 regardless, and in 1985 specifically.

Let's begin with 1985. Where does that year come from?

In the continuity of the "Charlie novels," the MCI is stated to happen in 1985. And at first, people took this as conclusive on its own.

Later, Into the Pit (the very first Frights story) would feature a murder of "half a dozen" children (which could be seen as rounding up from five) that happens, again, in 1985.

But as always, it's not that simple.

Into the Pit's murder is reasonably equivalent to the MCI in the same way that the novels' murder is, as it happens in a private room that's decorated like a party room, (as shown in Pizza Party,) and the number of victims is roughly the same. However, there's also details changed about it, such as the fact that, y'know, people see the murder happen and freak out about it.

The novels' murder also doesn't happen on one night, it's actually over the course of several months, which isn't the case in the games. So there's not just differences, there's specifically a temporal difference between the game MCI and novel MCI.

As for Into the Pit, the fact that there are differences means it's not really conclusive about the year.

Is there any case for the year 1983 specifically? Well, there's a pretty popular argument now surrounding The Silver Eyes, which takes place in 1995 and features the protagonist, Charlie, going back to the Freddy's where the murder happened ten years later.

If the MCI happens in 1983 in the games, this would parallel the novels quite well, as Mike Schmidt would be going back ten years after his continuity's MCI happened, to the Freddy's where it did.

The only counter I've heard to this is "that's ridiculous." Which, of course, is not a logical rebuttal.

The next point of discussion is the FNaF 4 kid, who many theorists (including myself) believe saw the June 26th incident occur.

This is because of the repeated evidence in FNaF 4 that the child clearly saw something that traumatized him and made him scared of the restaurant, and the MCI is a good answer once everything else has been eliminated.

Seeing Charlotte die wouldn't make him scared of anything except the Puppet and William, and he clearly isn't.

Seeing Elizabeth die would be a retcon and wouldn't make him scared of anything except Baby and ice cream.

Seeing (and misinterpreting) an employee helping another employee into his costume would imply that, were he to see the exact same thing, he'd shit his pants. He does see the exact same thing, and he doesn't have any reaction, he just walks past it.

Seeing a spring-lock failure would make him afraid of the spring-lock suits, (though he still walks past Spring Bonnie,)

The Bite Victim also says "These are my friends" when next to his plushies, but they're not actually about the plushies.

During the final speech, the beige-texted entity says "We are still your friends," referencing the "These are my friends" line, but the "We" in that statement isn't referring to plushies. Even those who believe that the beige text is the Fredbear plush agree that the text is beige because they're not speaking through the plush anymore, so it'd be strange to use "We" to refer to the plushies.

No, these are spirits. These are the Bite Victim's dead friends.

And when the Bite Victim said "These are my friends," he knew that his friends had literally become Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy.

He saw the MCI, therefore it happens prior to FNaF 4.

Finally, the last point I want to talk about is that we know the MCI happens in 1983, because Charlotte's death happens in 1983, and the MCI happens before it. Let me explain.

The "toddler snatched" headline that Charlie believes to be about Sammy in The Silver Eyes is from 1982. However, at the end of The Fourth Closet, it's revealed that Charlie died in 1983.

Almost everything in The Fourth Closet ties, somehow, into FFPS, and Charlotte's death in 1983 is one of the last lines of the entire novel trilogy - it's treated like a reveal. I think there's reason to believe Charlie died on Halloween 1983 in the games, just like in the novels, especially with the focus on Halloween 1983 in Curse of Dreadbear.

And one of the differences in the timeline in the games is that in the games, the MCI predates Charlotte's death.

Susie's UCN line "I was the first, and I have seen everything" has been interpreted a number of ways, but the more damning evidence in my opinion is that in the Security Puppet mini-game, we see what appear to be "WANTED" posters plastered everywhere. Clearly this murder was after some murders had already been established.

Ergo, the MCI happens before Charlotte's death, ergo, the MCI happens before Halloween 1983.

Thanks for reading.

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chloesimaginationthings · 2 months

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I can’t believe FNAF crying child never got an official name,,

#myart #chloesimagination #comic #fnaf crying child #evan afton #michael afton #golden freddy #garrett schmidt #fnaf #fnaf 3 #fnaf 4 #fnaf fanart #five nights at freddy's #It’s actually deranged this kid hasn’t been named in the games #the closest we got truly is ‘Garrett Schmidt’ but that’s movie adaptation so who knows BAHA #please Scott name this child #there’s no reason he shouldn’t have a name BAHA #one day crying child™️ one day…

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psiirockin · 1 month

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The day of the party.. 🎈💥🌈

(I TURN 20 TODAY!!!)

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willstarr · 3 months

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fnaf art dump since i havent posted in awhile :33

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leaky-heart · 1 year

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MORE CHARM DESIGNS RAAAAH

#fnaf #five nights at freddy's #michael afton #fnaf fanart #michael afton fanart #charlie emily #evan afton #elizabeth afton #fnaf 4 #cc afton #afton kids #my art

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pixlokita · 5 months

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Another art trade/collab with the bestie @cookieruma29 ✨🫶 she did the lovely colors and shading ✨ vengeful Evan AU belongs to her also >>👌

#fnaf #five nights at freddy's #fnaf 4 #Evan afton #crying child #uhhh #wanda #collab #my art #ah dude I love the golden glow you added to the speech bubbles #this is so nice #✨💖✨💖✨#let this kid be spooky as a little treat #Rifp Mike and William #OH SHIR I FORGOT TO CREDIT YOUR AU #I can’t edit Twitter but edited it here and on instagram

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carrion-corvus · 10 months

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Afton Kids, 1981

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mushramoo · 1 year

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elaboration on my Fredbear/nightmare design

#basically the four wires coming from his mouth represent the four kids that killed crying child #and they morph between versions #when u get caught they bring u to the main mouth #the charas are still their own separate entities #this is just Fredbear’s representation of nightmares #fnaf #birch rambles #mushramoo #fnaf fandom #fnaf art #five nights at freddy's #Fredbear #nightmare fredbear #fnaf 4 #crying child #fanart #digital art #fnaf nightmare

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lizzyafton61787 · 5 months

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The kiddies of all time <3

Had to update designs and au on here because it has changed SO MUCH

Because I’m indecisive <3

#fnaf #five nights at freddy's #fnaf fanart #elizabeth afton #charlie emily #evan afton #micheal afton #afton kids #sammy emily #fetch fnaf #ella fnaf #springbonnie plush #fredbear plush #fnaf 4 foxy bully #foxybro

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waffleslashermaster · 3 months

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Summer of 83

#Michael looks like he’s gonna snap CCs neck #leave that little guy alone #fnaf #drawing #art #fanart #five nights at freddy's #fnaf fanart #michael afton #elizabeth afton #the crying child #the afton kids #fnaf art #fnaf 4 #fnaf au

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s0phyy · 24 days

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afton siblings bonding pt2

#fnaf #fnaf fanart #fnaf au #fnaf 4 child #evan afton #elizabeth afton #michael afton #fnaf4 #afton kids #afton family #fnaf 4 fanart #fnaf 4 art

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hystericalwisteria · 1 year

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What a cute family, hope nothing bad happens to them

Without filters

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little-tangerines · 1 year

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kids are generally weird and religious kids are just plain scary honestly

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#fnaf #michael afton #fnaf gabriel #fnaf 4 tormentors #fnaf bullies #little tangerines comic #page #there may be coloring errors my apologies #im not that proud? of this one? it was funnier in my head #i did enjoy drawing gabe at least. so theres that yk #gabe and fritz are the weird kids of the class where fritz is weird because he has like every illness mental and physical #and gabriel has moments where hes just. like that

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psiirockin · 6 months

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FNAF 4 Bullies! These guys are so insufferable look at them.

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tricoufamily · 6 months

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had it with their ugly randomized outfits they will wear ANYTHING but their everyday i had to do them all finally 😔

#i'm not kidding they have had these awful randomized outfits since like. 2018 #did not want to do all those accessories and makeup baby!!!!#but i DID IT. FINE #also please imagine max's bear hat is a fnaf hat ok goodbye #this is the fall: extras #ts4 #ts4 edit #ts4 lookbook #the sims 4 #hugo villareal #luna villareal #max villareal #jacques villareal

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and-stir-the-stars · 4 months

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Welcome to the Crying Child Weekend Bash!

What is it?

A weekend all about the fnaf 4 Crying Child! Create fanworks-- fanart, edits, fics, poetry, or anything else you can think of-- that center around the Crying Child and match one of the day's given themes (don't worry, there's a free space day too, in case you want to participate but don't want to do a theme)

When is it?

The event will run from Friday January 5th to Monday January 8th, 2024!

Can I still participate if I use a special name for the Crying Child?

Hell yeah! Evan, Chris, Norman, CC, Cassidy, Stormaggeddon the dark lord of all-- doesn't matter what you call him; all Crying Child content is welcome.

Can I submit content for the event if it's for an au?

Yep! Just make sure to provide a brief summary of your au along with your work (at the beginning if it's a fic) so anyone who isn't familiar with the au can quickly get caught up and engage with your work for the event!

What are the prompts?

Friday, Jan 5th: Nightmare / Blood / Fun

Saturday, Jan 6th: Friend / Family / Haunting

Sunday, Jan 7th: Trust / Betrayal / Trapped

Monday, Jan 8th: Free space! Submit any content you have that doesn't follow a theme

For any day(s) that you want, post something that follows one or more prompt! You don't have to include all three prompts in a single work; you can pick either one, two, or all three prompts to incorporate in.

Where can I go if I have any questions?

Feel free to leave me an ask or hop into my DMs if you have any questions about the event, or about what content is or isn't acceptable as a submission.

What are the rules?

If you want to submit something for the event, then make it in a post, tag me in it, and label the post with #crying child weekend bash so I can reblog any submissions!

Do NOT make content shipping CC with anyone, and don't include any smut in anything you make for the event. I won't reblog it if you do.

Triggering content disclaimer: you're free to make content as dark as you want. Body horror, severe injuries, murder, character death, etc are all welcome, but you MUST make sure to tag and trigger warning this kind of content. If I notice something isn't tagged appropriately, I'll bring it up to you privately, but if you don't fix it then I won't reblog.

That being said, this weekend bash isn't necessarily about angst works. A lot of the prompts seem angsty, but I tried to put in a good mix of prompts so that if you want to make a fluff piece or a humor piece without any angst in it, then you should be able to do so. Fluff and crack are as welcome as angst pieces are!

This should go without saying, but the works should center around the Crying Child, not any other character.

If you mixed up your calender or a certain work took longer than you thought and you don't have it finished by the day the prompt is, you're more than welcome to post your work on a different day. I'm not gonna be too strict about deadlines; we're all here to have fun, right?

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#crying child weekend bash #crying child #the crying child #evan afton #chris afton #norman afton #cc afton #fnaf #fnaf 4 #the afton family #the afton kids #fnaf event

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