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bestbonnist · 1 year

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Fushi and their mama + weirdo father figure.

#fumetsu no anata e #to your eternity #to you the immortal #fnae #tye #fnae spoilers #present era #march #fushi #immo #satoru #original post #art #my art

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mpregcatboyshin · 1 year

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me high on yaoi cocaine: lmao it would be awesome if they kissed rn

me after watching the next 10 seconds:

#to your eternity #to your eternity fushi #to your eternity anime #anime spoilers #anime only #fumetsu no anata e #fnae spoilers #kahaku to your eternity

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kafkaoftherubble · 2 months

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把死人给带回来？难道...?！

// If They Are Bringing Back the Dead...

This post contains spoilers for Chapter 184.1 of To Your Eternity.

It also contains speculations galore. This is NOT a meta essay.

Shoutout to my homie branetheory in Discord!

Thanks to them, I was reminded of what Parts of My Brain had wanted to talk about:

Bruh. I can't believe ToFu made me so high last night that I forgot to talk about this.

Honestly I regret nothing Okay, memory water.

A little Kafka Aside: I'm gonna have to consciously ignore how... not-there the scientific backing for this is. Honestly, this Memory Water thing reminded me of the New Age/Pseudoscientific idea of "water memory" or Masaru Emoto's "water consciousness" thing or DNA teleportation. However, this is a story where weirder shits have happened, so suspension of disbelief willingly and gleefully granted. I just need to get this out of my head first.

To reiterate, Kaibara's experimental procedure involves

Extracting cells from a person's body

"Turn" it into water (how?)

Make a "clone" drink it (who?)

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Who could these clones be?

The only clones we know so far are the Mizuha clones. Their existence seems to imply a similar purpose to Hayase's descendants—they are supposed to inherit Hayase's Will, which is 95% "get injected with a tumor we call the Left Hand Nokker."

But Nokkers have long become invisible and fully integrated into this ecosystem. In the Future Era, they are embedded in tag chips, and they grant the bodies they possess all sorts of abilities and augmentations.

What would an inheritance of Hayase's Will even look like here? At first, I thought it would be similar: a tag chip with the Left Hand in it. Mizuha's, uh, possession (for the lack of a better word) manifested through the same mechanism other Nokkers used, after all.

However, the story gradually told us that the clones had all been massacred via an unknown operation for yet-untold reasons. Why would they do that?

Were these clones failures?

If they were failures, then it would make sense why Kaibara treated them as disposable; after all, in the past, the Guardians always exalted Hayase's Descendant(s) no matter how incompetent they were at their mission. Failure to secure Fushi's seeds I mean love never made them disposable enough to be killed, right?

So, as branetheory (crediting my homie even though they might not see this ahahhahah) also thought—

Could it be that Hayase herself has been successfully reincarnated in the body of one of these clones? (8)

I assigned this hypothesis an 8, or "80% confidence level."

Is she who you're gonna see, Bon?

Why would Kaibara need so many Mizuha clones in the first place? They only need one Descendant. They only have one Left-Hand Nokker...

Unless these clones were made specifically for bringing back Hayase. They were all experiments. Few experiments ever go right at the first trial. But this? Experiments this challenging and important as "recreating our legendary progenitor, Hayase?"

It will definitely require a lot of trial and error. So these clones were made to be expendables.

Honestly, who would name their offspring with numbers if they weren't meant to be seen as expendables?

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There is an interesting point to note: Memory Water only works if one has a Nokker implanted in them. Remember how Abel can't drink it and instantly know the answers to their stupid-ass questions?

So do all clones have Nokkers implanted in them? They all own a tag chip, after all. But there is only one Left Hand Nokker, and that bitch seems deadset on possessing only Hayase's appointed heir (or in this case, Hayase herself).

Does that mean

all the clones have their own Nokkers, but none of it is the Left Hand, until the Experiment? (3) OR

all the clones have empty tag chips until the Experiment, in which the Left Hand Nokker is then implanted inside before the subject drinks the Memory Water? (6) OR

other hypotheses I could not think of at the moment? (1)

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Doro and Her Sisters: Were They Trying To Stage a Rebellion Against Kaibara's Highest Echelon? (7)

Assigned (7); "70% confidence level"

Could this scene actually depict a failed experimental result, where #32/Doro was the subject? After all, she didn't look like she died in a massacre. She looked like she died alone, leaving her sisters behind..

Doro liaisoned with Fushi in secret. So secretly, Tonari didn't know it happened.

Why would she do that? Way back then, me and the Discord gang had speculated some sort of clash between Doro and the rest of Kaibara. At that time, I think our speculation was that it had to do with the Wish-granting Orb specifically.

But now, with this new information in mind...

Could it be that the liaison was part of the clones' planned rebellion? (6)

Assigned 6; "60% confidence level."

It could be that, in addition to passing vital information about Kaibara to Fushi (who is still not exactly forthcoming about what they know so far), Doro was also trying to ensure that the Wish-granting Orb will never fall into the Highest Echelon's hands.

Was her conviction formed out of concerns about what Kaibara might do with the orb?

Or was her reasoning more pragmatic—she didn't want Kaibara to have the power to crush her rebellion?

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Back to the number-as-naming convention. What if these weren't names, but the assigned turn of each clone for the ultimate experiment (6)? If that's the case, then Doro is the 32nd experiment that failed.

That's a lot. And the fact that she failed would mean the experiment will keep going. The clones will keep being bred to be used for these experiments. It's a conflict ripe for seeds of rebellion, right?

And so, there are extra hypotheses as to why the clones were massacred in the first place:

Hayase has been successfully reincarnated (8)

The clones' rebellion plan has been found out (7)

Hayase has been successfully reincarnated AND the clones' rebellion plan has been found out (5.6; 8/10×7/10)

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Dolly's Purpose(s)

While Doll's original purpose might have been for amusement and fun—Doro rescued it from some trash heap and just engineered it to be a playmate—I had always found its ability to dish out powerful punches suspicious. Why would a playmate be good at granting people concussions in the first place?!

And it was good enough to take out mercenaries, right?

I'm quite confident that Doll's punch is a defensive ability to guard whatever's stored in its memory (9).

I should review what Previous Me had speculated:

Doll holds Doro's brainwaves or consciousness

Doll holds the Left Hand Nokker within it

Doll is a combination of Doro's consciousness/brainwaves and its original AI

There is also the speculation that Doll is the Wish-granting Orb itself, but I think the confidence level for that hypothesis has gone pretty low... at least to me, personally. It sits at less than 10%.

Now, I want to add new hypotheses and rearrange them from most confident to least:

Doll's memories include Kaibara's top secret: key infrastructures, their real master(s), their experiments, whatever information they have gained about the Wish-granting Orb, their master plan to counter Fushi, and the like. Things that could give rebelling clones an edge. (8)

Doll holds Doro's brainwaves/consciousness integrated within its original AI (7)

Doll holds Doro's brainwaves/consciousness AND it is Doro's consciousness/memories that possess knowledge of Kaibara's top secret (5.6; 8/10×7/10)

Doll holds the Left Hand Nokker (less than 2)

The first (and by extension, the third) hypothesis can be supplemented by the fact that Kaibara really wants the Doll. Why, if not because the Doll holds vital information regarding the entire company?

They could go after it for Doro's consciousness, sure, but the priority would drop a lot more, wouldn't it? ...Unless the third hypothesis is true!

The second hypothesis can be partially supplemented by Abel's dedication to possessing the Doll; he really cherished Doro, and to him, the Doll could lead him to her again. He also claimed that Doro "is still alive," though when pressed, he gave no evidence.

Was it wistful thinking, or could he have been privy to Doro's experiment to transfer her consciousness into Doll? Did he really know nothing about Doro's death?

There is also the "Now I am human" line Doro uttered while blindfolded. Given we now know what the clones are used for, Doro might see her existence to be inhuman/subhuman because of her real purpose. Maybe, to her, she could feel more human by being a doll than in her human body.

Hell, who knows? Doro might secretly envy Abel's humanness—a guy who was likely born from normal copulation and couldn't fit in with the rest of the Tagged society, yet all the more a genuine human being than the rest of them.

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What is the nature of Doll's Brainwaves?

Could it have been a digital transfer, or could it have used a similar mechanism to the Memory Water?

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Miscellaneous Implications of Memory Water Bringing Back the Dead

Bruh I swear if they reincarnated the Nameless Boy to torment Fushi I will fucking sever my friendship with Left Hand Nokker and nuke their Paradise. Oh hi Left Hand, nothing over here.

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And that concludes my hypotheses round-up, updated to only Chapter 184.1. Remember! Y'all are always welcome to reblog and add your own thoughts to it!

Fuck, I will be so honored if y'all Fushi-fied my writing by adding absolutely anything.

Thank you for reading my ramble. Rest assured, I have prepared just the right image for the moment I clown myself by having most of my hypotheses come out spectacularly falsified:

(Hi everyone this is Kei from Ajin)

#Man. I know I have adopted the “confidence level assignment” habit since I learned about super-forecasting and got a bit better at stats #But I never really knew how to incorporate it to help me organize my hypotheses and speculations...#...until lately. I feel like all I've been doing is TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT AND SPECULATE HERE AND THERE #My livewired brain has evolved in a very specific way. I just know it.#What I don't know is whether I should thank the chief instigator for this evolution. Or strangle them.#Maybe both. Pretty sure (99% confidence level) they deserve both. Aye guys?#fumetsu no anata e #to your eternity #fnae #fnae spoilers #fnae manga spoilers #tye #tye spoilers #Wish Era #speculations and hypotheses

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frankencanon · 10 months

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Me, before watching season 2 of Fumetsu no Anata e: I don't understand why people care so much about this "Bon" guy... Look at his ridiculous outfit and his stupid mustache... What on earth do people see in him?

Me, now: I love him so much I would die for him I miss his old stupid outfit and his dumb little mustache... I would do anything for him... 💜

#im about halfway through season 2 #and i would die for him #im tagging this spoilers just in case #spoilers #fumetsu no anata e #to your eternity #bonchien nicoli la tasty peach uralis #fnae spoilers #fnae bon #bonchien #bon #anime #manga #fumetsu no anata e season 2 #fmae s2 #to your eternity season 2

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ella390-the-potato · 1 year

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The Previous Era comes to an end. And we also get a Season 3 confirmation. 🎉

Just look at this kid with his bubble tea.

#Fumetsu no Anata E #FNAE #FNAE Spoilers #To Your Eternity #To You The Immortal #Yoshitoki Oima #Studio Drive #Fushi #FNAE Fushi #time for the New World Arc

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mimigoey · 1 year

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I had to take a break from the manga following Mizuha's death but yesterday I watched 3 episodes of season 2 and I felt so relieved ❤️

I will see my precious princess Alme soon ❤️

Bon! looks so handsome 💕

Tonari 💕

I missed parona 🥺

Kahak ❤️ precious boy

And finally my dear Fushi I missed you so much ❤️

#to your eternity #fumetsu no anata e #to your immortal #fnae spoilers #fnae #kahaku #parona #fushi #bonchien nicoli la tasty peach uralis #alme #tonari

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astrumamasia · 1 year

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has this been done yet

#fumetsu no anata e #to your eternity #anime #FNAE spoilers #FNAE #TYE spoilers #TYE

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kurobachisagi · 1 year

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crazy kahaku and fushi realization

Part of Kahaku’s character arc was him going from wanting to protect Fushi as his role in the Guardians to wanting actually be there for them, and wanting to protect their humanity. All he really wanted by the end of the Renryrr/Renril arc was to be someone Fushi could trust, someone to ease their mind and take some of the burden off their shoulders.

Despite this being all he wanted to do for Fushi, and based on the first pic, the only thing he believed he COULD do for them, he left Fushi behind and died believing that he was never able to achieve that.

But, when you look at all the times Fushi mentions Kahaku in the modern arc, all their memories of him are positive. To Fushi, Kahaku was a good friend, a good person, and a calming presence, really they seem to see Kahaku in a much better light than he should be seen in, but that’s what they see him as. Exactly what he wished he could be for Fushi.

[using this image bc of @bestbonnist‘s post just trust me(them)]

Kahaku never believed it himself, and he’ll never be able to, but he did what he sought out do do. Based on Fushi’s memories of him, he was exactly the person he wanted to be but thought he never managed to become.

#i was laying in bed last night and suddenly thought of this and had to use all my willpower to be able to remember it in the morning #fushi remembers kahaku as like a way better person than he actually was but like ok! if you say he was your bestie then he was your bestie #to be fair he wasn't Sooooo bad of a person it was really left hand doing all the murdering but watever #still a little freak. for sure. cringe #thats what it is actually. fushi doesnt seem to remember how cringe kahaku was.#to your eternity #fumetsu no anata e #fnae #tye #fushi #immo #kahak #kahaku #to you the immortal #fnae spoilers

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randomlonelymusician · 1 year

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It is so funny watching people completely misunderstand Kahaku’s feelings for Fushi and the whole sexuality/queerness element that plays into it. While the earlier parts of their relationship can be debated, saying that Kahaku is only ever in love with Fushi-Parona is not correct. (Personally, I always felt that he was attracted to Parona’s form at first, but that turned into a bit of a sheild so that he wouldn’t have to be ‘in love with a man’, but that’s just my view.)

I just can’t help but shake my head a bit when people believe that Kahaku only ever liked Parona’s form because they don’t want to believe he’s anything but straight. Or, sometimes people just completely misunderstand details about his character. (I don’t blame anime-onlies, since the adaptation has been quite clumsy with details surrounding him.)

It just feels like another example of “let’s overlook this character’s queerness because a) no gay people in our anime, or b) it’s not overly explicit so it can’t exist”.

#i know i have my own interpretations but without a doubt Kahaku is not straight #a man being in love with a male-presenting genderless orb is not heterosexual #i always interpreted Kahaku as bi #kahaku #to your eternity #fumetsu no anata e #fnae #tye #fnae spoilers

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gachagon · 1 year

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Mizuha is a loveless girl

And I literally sympathize with her so much because of it she’s my new favorite character. Hi, I’m gonna gush about Mizuha and her complications with love and receiving love so please don’t read this if you haven’t read up till at least chapter 140+ of the manga! There are massive spoilers ahead so be warned.

Mizuha’s complications with love are a really interesting topic that the manga brings up as apart of her character, because Mizuha herself believes that she knows what love is, and what it feels like, and why she wants it etc. But I personally think that Mizuha and Fushi are similar in that they both don’t really understand what “love” actually is.

Mizuha wants love from Fushi, but she doesn’t really know how to actually reciprocate those feelings. She herself doesn’t actually “love” Fushi in the way that she wants him to love her.

When Fushi confronts her in Chapter 139, she can’t even actually say she loves him, because the truth is that she just doesn’t feel that way about him. But despite that she still wants him to love her.

I feel like the parallels here between Mizuha and Kahaku are also kind of subtle because they both couldn’t tell Fushi they loved him to his face, even at their lowest points. Kahaku professed his love while he was dying in an act of self sacrifice, and we see here that Mizuha can’t even say she loves Fushi when he’s right there in front of her.

Now where I feel the difference in them starts is that when Kahaku said he loved Fushi he legitimately did love Fushi. But Mizuha isn’t actually in love with him, or she hasn’t gotten to that point yet. Both Kahaku and Mizuha struggled with their own feelings in regards to Fushi. Kahaku at first had to come to terms with the fact that he couldn’t just love Fushi in one form, but all of his forms including the one he was most comfortable in, and not the form he took of his old friend.

Mizuha on the other hand has to deal with the fact that Fushi just doesn’t understand love like normal people, and that he’s only really able to give love in a mostly platonic sense. Throughout this entire arc Fushi states multiple times that he “doesn’t really understand” love, and it’s clear he does have love for the people around him, it’s just not the “right” kind of love to solve all of their issues.

I think the most glaring example of this is in chapter 146, after Mizuha and Hanna have their fight. Fushi sees that she’s sobbing her eyes out and is clearly distraught, so he decides the best way to “solve” this issue is by handing her something he got from another friend.

Fushi at this point just wants Mizuha to be happy, and he believes the best way to do that is by making her life full of more friends and people who love her. But Fushi doesn’t understand that the love he provides her with is “the wrong” type of love.

Mizuha doesn’t want more friends, she has plenty of friends. She wants the kind of love that she believes only one person can give her, and she’s set her sights specifically on Fushi. Though Fushi just doesn’t understand why Mizuha, who he loves as his friend, doesn’t immediately have her problems solved by him just being there.

In fact immediately after Mizuha does this he imagines March taking the ball and being obsessed with it, and showing it off to all her friends at school because that is the kind of love Fushi can provide to other people. It’s the only kind he really gets.

Mizuha’s love is complicated and difficult and not something he has ever really had to give. When Kahaku was in love with him, it was easy to not see that or even acknowledge because throughout the war arc Kahaku didn’t make it plainly obvious that he loved Fushi in that way, or at least he didn’t make it obvious to Fushi.

Mizuha just sort of expects Fushi to “get it” one day if they do normal romantic things, like go on dates and hug and kiss. But even when Fushi does these things for her it is all still in the guise of “trying to make Mizuha happy” because he’s her friend and he cares about her. Fushi doesn’t love Mizuha in that way, but he does love her enough to at least pretend so that it’ll make her feel better.

Just like Kahaku, Mizuha is trying to “define” Fushi in a way that he just isn’t. Where as Kahaku was literally trying to make Fushi be a woman so he could marry him, Mizuha wants Fushi to be a normal “boy” so she can date him and give her the love she wants from him. But during the entire arc with Fushi and Kahaku, he makes it clear that gender, sexuality, and all of that other stuff just doesn’t really matter to him, and that he’ll literally just change depending on who he is at the time.

Lets also note how in this arc both Bon and Kahaku use She/Her pronouns for Fushi the entire time while he’s in Parona’s body. Their usage of these pronouns stop however when Fushi loses Parona’s form, and he has to be the nameless boy again. When he was Parona, they were both placing expectations onto Fushi that just didn’t mesh well with who he actually was as a person, including his own identity.

And Mizuha is doing the same thing just in the opposite direction. Another part of Mizuha’s character is her need to be “perfect”. She wants to be perfect to make her mother happy, but as time went on she slowly began to realize that there were parts of her life that were imperfect due to the people around her.

Her mother pushing her to be “perfect” and seeing her as nothing more than a mountain of achievements was a flaw that Mizuha couldn’t ignore.

Her peers are people who aren’t around her own skill level and that is a flaw she also couldn’t ignore.

And her own aging human body is “imperfect” because she realizes she doesn’t have enough time to keep her mother happy forever by achieving more great things. Mizuha can’t turn the clock back no matter how much she may want to, unlike Fushi who can just revert to any age he wants at will by switching forms. A part of Mizuha’s infatuation with Fushi is the fact that she believes that by being with him that she will gain something greater then “perfection”

However, Mizuha doesn’t want to “get” Fushi by falling in love with him. She expects Fushi to love her and for her to not have to reciprocate those feelings. If she gets Fushi to fall in love with her then she will “have” him. It’s why she repeatedly places the responsibility of learning about love on his shoulders so loosely. When they go on dates, she expects him to just understand or catch on eventually. Mizuha believes that just by being around Fushi he will eventually come to love her in the way that she wants, but it’s just not working.

She has no love to give to him, and the love that Fushi gives out freely is not enough because it’s the kind he shares with all people. We see how Mizuha is unable to truly give love freely with how she strings Hanna along knowing how Hanna feels about her.

When Hanna points out how her crush on Fushi is one sided, Mizuha just flat out says she’s wrong and that it’s actually the other way around.

Mizuha believes she is perfect and because of this she grows increasingly frustrated with the fact that she’s not able to get Fushi to love her. Fushi doesn’t know how to make her happy or what he should do to make her happy. And Mizuha doesn’t know what she has to do to get Fushi to love her. She is a “loveless” girl in the sense that she has none to give to others in the same way that Fushi has none to give to others.

Though where they differ is that Fushi loves his friends and his family, and that love alone is enough to make him be content for all eternity. For Mizuha it is not enough because she is running out of time. She doesn’t have eternity to get over this kind of feeling.

#to you the immortal #to your eternity #to you the immortal manga #to you the immortal mizuha #character analysis #fushi to your eternity #mizuha to your eternity #kahaku to your eternity #fumetsu no anata e #fnae manga #fnae spoilers #fnae

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