#eugenides

[stop-handing-me-knives]

Gen: why are any of us here, really?

Magus, in his room, at 2 am: I’m asking about you, specifically

#I mean #wasn’t this that scene in queen of attolia? #eugenides #gen #queen of attolia #queen's thief #queen’s thief incorrect quotes #incorrect quotes #magus

[makethosenarratorsfight]

UNRELIABLE NARRATORS; FINALS.

Eugenides Propaganda:

the entire plot hinges on a detail he lets the reader (and every other character) assume is true. I don't want to spoil it because it's a really fun reveal but he is lying from the first second he appears on the page and you can't trust him to tell the full truth about ANYTHING related to himself and his goals. he mostly does it to keep his advantage and not have other characters be suspicious of him but it's just so fun when you realise he's been lying the whole time

Lemony Snicket Propaganda:

(I would like to preface this by saying that Lemony Snicket is the author's pen name, not a real person, and he exists as a character in-universe as well as being the one in-universe who writes the books!) I'd say he's unreliable because he spent time collecting information about the Baudelaire kids and then... wrote books about it. He has no idea what any of their dialogue actually was, what they were thinking, or even the whole plot, he's just doing research into the incidents and then filling in the gaps to make it a story. What ACTUALLY happened to the Baudelaires? Nobody really knows for sure

While the Baudelaire siblings are in potentially life threatening danger, he will randomly start talking about his own life and just leave the siblings hanging. For example, once Count Olaf was threatening to kill Violet, and then Lemony randomly began talking about how he met the love of his life at a costume party. This man CANNOT stay on topic. Usually when a new character is introduced, Lemony tells us right at the start that they’re either going to die or that the Baudelaire siblings will never see them again. Foreshadowing is not subtle in these books. CONSTANTLY emphasizes how miserable he feels while writing these books. At one point he admits that he had to put his pencil down and go cry for a while because of how sad it made him. Once he filled an entire page with nothing but the word “ever” to emphasize how dangerous it is to put forks in electrical outlets. He also repeated a paragraph about deja vu later on in the book to give the reader deja vu.

#lemony snicket #a series of unfortunate events #asoue #asoue books #asoue netflix #eugenides #queens thief #queen's thief #the queens thief #the queen's thief #megan whalen turner #unreliable narrator battle #unreliable narrators #polls #finals #this is gonna be a coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb isn't it.

[svetlacreates]

And Costis heard, as clearly as he'd heard the king speaking, another voice. It said, "Go to bed." Eugenides the man and Eugenides the God, an illustration of one of my favourite scenes from The King of Attolia! This was my gift for @etoilegarden for the @hamiathesgiftexchange!

#queen's thief #the queen's thief #the king of attolia #Eugenides #and Godgenides as a wonderful commenter said #my art #fanart #I had so much fun working on this one

[exercise-of-trust]

is it still an incorrect quotes if it's by the author? anyway this post has been living rent free in my head for three years and it's high time i exorcised it with a sketchy lil comic.

#the queen's thief #eddis helen #eugenides #attolia irene #subcreation #stop whining : go to bed #my laptop returns from the wars and what's the first thing i do? project with barely any rendering! honestly man why bother

[emilybeemartin]

I told you I have a thing for Kings Who Sit Really Stupid; here's the OG

#eugenides #the queens thief #gen #megan whalen Turner #sketchbook #colored pencil

[captain-hooks]

Won’t name names but I read kind of a disappointing political fantasy book and it has me pining for the BEST political fantasy books, Megan Whalen Turner’s Queen’s Thief series, naturally

#I was put on this earth to make content for the little fandoms truly #the queen's thief #the queens thief #tqt #megan whalen turner #the thief #eugenides #fanart #my art

[cogentranting]

The thing about Queen's Thief is that the reveals that come with Gen's trickster type, don't just reveal that he is smarter or more skilled than the people around him (or the readers) thought, but also that he is more good than they originally thought. Gen's goodness is a part of the twist.

This is probably most prominent in King of Attolia where his surprising mercy is a huge part of the plot (and his genuine love and friendship). But it happens over and over again.

In The Thief we are led to believe that he is motivated primarily by self-interest and we are surprised by the depths of his loyalty, the generous affection that comes out for the Magus, and by the fact that he is actually primarily motivated by duty and love for his queen/favorite cousin/reigning bestie.

In Queen of Attolia the twist is that his actions which looked like generalized mischief and political power plays actually all spring from love, and that love arose initially from empathy with a girl's loneliness.

Or when he becomes king, and then it's revealed that yes he got what he wanted but actually this is an act of self sacrifice (for the sake of Irene and Hellen and Eddis).

And on and on.

The pettiness and the pride and the mischief for its own sake are all still there, but they coexist with this deep undercurrent of loyalty and duty and love and mercy and kindness. And when push comes to shove that undercurrent will always win out and its that which makes the twists so triumphant and satisfying.

#queen's thief #attolis eugenides #eugenides #gen

[ihamtmus]

Kiss (Your Queen)

I tried adding certain Symbolic Elements (and removing other elements such as A Hand) to match the characters and the theme of the series more.

I started working on this more than 2 years ago and then stopped because I couldn’t get it right, and also didn’t feel like drawing the patterns on the clothes haha 😆

I remembered about it during my vacation and decided to finish it quickly. I’m not 100% satisfied with it but at least it’s finished now! ☺️🌸

#queen's thief #irenides #tqt #the queens thief #megan whalen turner #irene attolia #eugenides #my art #gabi tries out new art styles #my post #i have one more qt wip i should finish it as well

[runfreebirdrun]

i'm halfway through the third book of The Queen's Thief series by Megan Whalen Turner and i think they're really fun, big recommend if you like plot twists and suspense and vaguely Grecian fantasy and authors who don't let the audience know nearly enough. Gen is my worstie

#i hate him i love him i hate that i love him #runfreebirdrunart #the queen's thief #megan whalen turner #eugenides #eddis helen #this isn't to say that Eugenides is tall this to say that Eddis is short

[mariposas-art]

Don’t let the lines fool you, he’s actually shorter than her.

As @curly-cottage-girl and @lilaccatholic requested, here’s Irene and Eugenides in the Barbie meme

#my headcanon is that for their honeymoon Gen asked Attolia if they could visit the prisons #it was his idea to take the photos as if they were prisonsers #he thinks it’s funny #she doesn’t (but secretly agrees it’s funny) #the guards think it’s so insufferable of him #queen’s thief #attolia irene #eugenides #attolis eugenides #my art

[mothsartart]

i have a million things to do so i redesigned The Queen of Attolia cover instead

#the queen's thief #tqt #qt #queens thief #eugenides #megan whalen turner #mwt #booklr #my art

[yutaan]

“Then come out," said the king, "knowing you'll never die of a fall unless the god himself drops you.”

A papercraft of Eugenides, from the amazingly wonderful Queen’s Thief series! The Thief has been one of my favorite books since it first blew my mind in elementary school, and it’s been such a joy following the subsequent books all through teenagerhood and into adulthood. The author Megan Whalen Turner was at a nearby YA book festival yesterday, and I made this artwork to give to her as a thank-you for the years of incredible stories!

#the queen's thief #eugenides #the king of attolia #papercraft #papercutting #paper art #my art #a series chock-full of the most incredible and most unreliable of narrators #I love them #I love them!!!!!!!!

[exercise-of-trust]

nobody else is doing it like them and the continent could not be more grateful for that

#eugenides #attolia irene #the queen’s thief #got the childhood bestie to read the thief and promptly got a 3am text yelling about our lying little viper #buddy you ain’t seen nothin’ wait ‘til he really gets going #excuse the sloppy background my laptop is suffering its 3rd catastrophic battery failure in five years and this was fingerpainted on an ipad #subcreation #stop whining : go to bed

[emilybeemartin]

I recently had someone very kindly say they read Woodwalker and felt like I had tricked them into re-reading The Thief; well I just listened to the Eagle of the Ninth and guess what

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"Find anything?"

I looked down at the seal ring still hung around my thumb... In the sunlight I could that the emerald was flawed, milky white on one side. The seal engraved in it was a curving fish, maybe a dolphin. The white flaw was a breaking wave.

The magus leaned over to lift it off my thumb.

..."I'll put it in my bag, so that it doesn't get lost."

"You will not," I said. The ring didn't belong in a bag, it belonged on a finger. My finger.

-The Thief, Megan Whalen Turner

#queens thief #megan whalen turner #eugenides #the thief #the dolphin ring #the eagle of the ninth #rosemary sutcliff

[emerydraws]

finally finish this drawing from way back early last year, love these dudes

going to have to reread soon

#digital art #my art #original art #artists on tumblr #character art #art #fanart #eugenides x irene #eugenides #the thief #megan whalen turner #attolia and attolis #gen x irene #attolia #attolis #attolia irene #queen's thief #the queen of attolia

[makethosenarratorsfight]

UNRELIABLE NARRATORS; SEMI FINALS

*NOTE; propaganda is out of order due to the post length!

Eugenides Propaganda:

the entire plot hinges on a detail he lets the reader (and every other character) assume is true. I don't want to spoil it because it's a really fun reveal but he is lying from the first second he appears on the page and you can't trust him to tell the full truth about ANYTHING related to himself and his goals. he mostly does it to keep his advantage and not have other characters be suspicious of him but it's just so fun when you realise he's been lying the whole time

Kim Dokja Propaganda:

I haven't read orv but he's fucking gotta be from what I've osmosised

He tries to remove his emotions out of the narrative soooo much, literally the most repressed guy ever. Okay so for context orv is about how this guy, Kim Dokja, has been the only reader of an obscure post-apocalyptic webnovel for years and the novel suddenly becomes reality. And at first you'll probably get the weird impression that his behavior is pretty strange for, you know, a literal apocalypse happening in his world - like yes, he is concerned with survival but he doesn't seem all that scared and he kinda treats it like a video game where he has to grind to make himself stronger and he also treats his companions like a party in an rpg. Then there's also the way he approaches the protagonist of the webnovel, from the start he just kind of describes him as a ruthless psychopath and jerk that is unfortunately a pretty useful ally. And also there's the fact that he carefully omits any mention of his past and when somebody asks if he's worried about his family when the apocalypse starts he just kinda... brushes it off? Anyway so yeah, this bastard is definitely traumatized, although I don't know how much of spoiler territory that would be, considering the fact that literally when he first reveals his trauma he's also unreliable about it. And turns out he does indeed, care A LOT about this world and the people around him. Because well, he kinda didn't care to mention that this webnovel that has become reality was like... literally his whole world before it literally became his whole world. Like, it was the only thing keeping him going for 10+ years and the protagonist that he likes to call a stupid jerk was his comfort character who he pretended to be when he felt like he couldn't handle something in his life by being himself. The protagonist is also canonically the person he loves the most according to a prophecy and he literally can't fathom the thought of him dying, even the timeline versions of him that directly oppose him. And I haven't even mentioned the Fourth Wall yet but I feel like this propaganda is a little long already

misreading the intentions of his companion (yoo joonghyuk) so many time.

YOU DON'T UNDERSTANDDD DOKJA IS SUCH A UNRELIABLE NARRATORRRRRR GOD I COULD WRITE AN ESSAY BUT I KNOW YOU LOVE DOKJA TOO BUT OMG HE'S JUST SO AAAAAAAAAAAH

Rest of Propaganda under cut!

he is the worst like actually. he starts the story talking about how normal and average he is. he is not. he is constantly mischaracterizing his friends and he's so good at lying to the readers that you don't even realize it at first. almost every single time he cries we have to be told by other characters because he never says it himself. there is literally a scene where his narration says "i wasn't crying" and then the in-universe entity that narrates the actions of people (orv is really weird and meta) says that he was, in fact, crying. honestly genuinely anything he says about himself (or doesn't say) cannot be trusted. he is just so frustrating. he drives me mad. i love him dearly. but he drives me so mad.

Dictionary definition of unreliable narrator. Does not tell the reader anything and then things happen and he's like oh yeah btw there was also this and this earlier but i just didn't feel like mentioning it. There's even a thing called the "Fourth Wall" that is able to see through kdj's bs so occasionally you get gems like,

Kim Dokja: I didn't cry

The Fourth Wall: [Kim Dokja was crying]

Imagine being so unreliable as a narrator you need a more powerful narrator to call out the actual narrator.

^ same submission, just spacing it out

This goes into spoiler territory, but; Kim Dokja is in possession of a skill called the Fourth Wall, which on the surface seems like it appears because he read the book that reverse-isekai’d into his own. However, as the story goes on it becomes clear that it’s pretty much a souped up version of his pre-existing dissociation. You cannot trust him to be honest about his feelings, his past traumas or his feelings about his past traumas, not to mention his tendency to just outright omit information that only gets revealed later on either when it becomes relevant or when an outsider POV reveals what’s actually happening.

Exhibit A: he says (in 1st person POV) that he’s not crying. The Fourth Wall immediately contradicts this (as it is literally words of the novel) by saying (in 3rd person POV) ‘Kim Dokja was crying’.

Exhibit B: Fails to mention entire actions when it shows him emotionally honest even in the slightest; we had to read from another character entirely when Kim Dokja was being physically affectionate with his companion. It’s so bad that there’s this entire paragraph about Kim Dokja describing himself hiding his eyes in his hands in jerky, weirdly specific detail and just AVOIDING EVERY WORD THAT MIGHT SHOW HE’S CRYING. The brilliance of ORV is that when you re-read the entire thing you get hints that ‘yes, this WAS hinted at the entire time’ but you have to dig it out of Kim Dokja’s repressed, depressed self-hating internal dialogue with your own two hands.

^ same submission, spacing it out (i really should've done this earlier.)

i am a simple man (not a man). i see a tumblr text post with the words “unreliable narrator in it”. i read nothing else. i reblog & tag #kim dokja okay but in all seriousness i’m just going with the musty basic example: so there’s this moment where he sacrifices himself to save this guy. as he lays on the ground bleeding out, he says “hey, you don’t like me, right? you should kill me to get some money” the guy says “no kim dokja i cant do that (going through the five stages of grief except there’s only one and it’s anger)” the constellations (twitch viewers irl) are like omg he (the guy) doesn’t want to kill his companion (kim dokja) and shower him (the guy) with money kim dokja: oh, he’s not killing me for the money. smart!

as i quote a brilliant youtube video (all of omniscient reader’s viewpoint in 6 minutes) “yoo joonghyuk sees kim dokja as a c_____”

yoo joonghyuk: companion

kim dokja: cunt

^ same submission, once again. spacing it out.

Hides his true feelings, tells the readers what he thinks is convenient for the plot and that his own personal feelings don’t matter or are not so significant. Has unreliable thoughts abt his companion and is a liar. And is also an omniscient reader.

Kim Dokja always perceived his companions in this like nonchalant way like “oh yeah we get along but really we’re just fighting to survive (apocalypse setting) it doesn’t run that deep” when they all do genuinely care for him and he does in turn. He just, doesn’t think of it as an equal relationship? Dokja’ll sacrifice a lot for them but will get seriously flabbergasted if they do the same thing, so fricking problematic. Not to mention Yoo Joonghyuk, his “Life and Death Companion” (read: husband). Kim Dokja always seems to think that Joonghyuk has it out for him, which is kinda true, but he is literally blind to the fact that he’s attached to him. Like, it’s so obvious??? Also they have hella sexual tension but that’s another thing entirely

se get some many pov changes where kdj in his pov just assumed things based on what he knew the characters would do. however because of his interference the characters have changed and he wouldn’t know that if it hit him in the face

He's an unreliable narrator because he lies to himself and thus the audience. He literally rewrote his own childhood core memory. If someone says, "this guy is my friend!" He will go through so many hoola hoops in his mind just to rationalize it. Because he fundamentally believe that no one could love him and even if they did they couldn't know him and he's just gonna hurt them. He cries sometimes in canon but a lot of those times it's not even mentioned as crying he's that unreliable of a narrator. No joke, one time this guys he has a gay thing with called him his "companion" to someone who had just killed him (long story) and this bitch thought "oh wow he's doing it for the coins (another long story) he's so smart i wish I'd thought to that. He's terrible. He literally has an exchange with something called the Fourth Wall (an even longer story) where it said "you're crying" and he said "no I'm not" but he was crying. He makes me insane because the reader is supposed to project onto him. He made me see how much of an unreliable narrator I WAS. ORV is just like that tho.

#kim dokja #kdj #orv #omniscient readers viewpoint #once again #if kdj gets this poll blacklisted again im blowing him up #eugenides #the queens thief #queens thief #unreliable narrators battle #unreliable narrators #polls #semi finals