#epic pr fails

[houseofbrat]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13186177/Kate-Middleton-Mothers-Day-picture-Prince-William-apology.html

This is honestly very disloyal from the Princess of Wales’ staff. They continue sinking her reputation and throwing her to the wolves, washing their hands from the full mess they have helped to create. I mean, this is sh*tty when she isn’t even in good health.

The KP Head of Communications, Lee Thompson, is incompetent. He's been incompetent at his job for more than a year. Yet still he is in the employ of Kensington Palace.

William allowed Kate to be thrown under the bus. Someone from the comms team should have already lost their job. That should have been the response on Monday morning.

Except that it wasn't. The goal was to throw The Princess of Wales under the bus and pretend that the photo that was released as a "health update" or "proof of life" was her fault.

Like, bull fucking shit it was her doing.

The KP comms team heads should be rolling. They have all caused or contributed to an international PR crisis. And they keep making it worse!

And yet William will not get rid of any of them.

Because he won't admit that he made a mistake. Even though his wife gets to take the blame.

He won't admit that he fucked up and NEEDS to fire people. Something that should have happened--literally--yesterday!!

He is so pathetic.

#ask #my gif #fleet street #daily mail #british royal family #kensington palace #palace officials #palace household #PR fail #fail! #Epic tale of DUMB #William The Prince of OWN GOALS #William The Weak #William The Terrible #prince william #William The Prince of Wales #MESS! #kate middleton #Catherine The Princess of Wales

[hockeyshmockey]

FEA- Daniel Ricciardo

summary: in which daniel's return to the redbull family brings her back into his life too

warnings: none other than some cursing

“Did you hear?” Max asked her casually in between interviews, the Dutchman trying to be nonchalant but failing epically.

“Hear what?” Shay asked the driver as she looked up from her phone with squinted eyes.

“Mclaren dropped Daniel,” Max revealed with a frown, making Shay's jaw drop.

Rewind to 2016.

Shay, a young assistant media manager had been called by a frantic Stella, who was the head of Red Bull F1 PR at the time. One of the two media managers had come down with pneumonia and been unable to travel to Melbourne for the first race of the season.

It was that moment that Shay had been thrown head first into her role she held now. Stella had told her that Shay was now the Media Manager for hot shot Daniel Ricciardo until told otherwise. The moment the Aussie and the girl from Cambridge started working together began what many called two years of pain.

Professionally, Shay and Daniel were a dream pairing. The two had a rapport many other drivers tried to have with their media managers. There had to be a delicate balance of friendship and work, which Shay was able to achieve with the never ending enigma that was Daniel. She never hesitated to joke around with him, but was also able to bring him back to earth and out of the slumps that became more common further on in their partnership.

Personally, Shay and Daniel were the biggest “will they won’t they” the paddock may have ever seen. Shay had blushed around Daniel their first few weeks working together non stop. Daniel would never hesitate to flirt with Shay, smirking when eventually the girl learned to give it back just as good as she got.

On celebration nights, Daniel and Shay were almost always found together in a dark corner leaning in close and sipping their drinks. The two spent time together away from the track, Shay meeting his family and Daniel going on vacation with Shay and her brothers one summer break. When Daniel was on the podium, Shay was on the barrier waiting with a hug.

When Max joined Red Bull, even as tensions within the team rose, the Dutchman never failed to tease Daniel about Shay. When the time came for Daniel to announce his move to Renault, most of the Red Bull staff expected him to announce at the same time he and Shay were in love and she was heading across the paddock with him.

Little did they know, Shay heard about Daniels departure at the group meeting with everyone else.

Things after that were tense. Daniel spent the rest of the season soaking up his last moments with the team, but things with Shay were off. He understood he had hurt her, but her never realized how badly until she iced him out. The last five races of the season, there was none of the banter that their relationship thrived on. Shay was all work while Daniel tried to revert back to their normal.

The last race of the season ended with a party in a club. And instead of hanging out in a corner, Shay and Daniel were in a screaming match that ended with Shay in tears and leaving and Daniel pounding beers till he couldn't see straight.

The next four years, Shay and Daniel kept their distance. They nodded to each other across the paddock, but there was no chats. They usually ended up having polite conversation when Max would force them together. But overall, Daniel's handling of his departure from Red Bull had clearly damaged their relationship.

"God, what is he going to do?" Shay was unable to keep the concern out of her voice as she looked at Max.

"I don't know yet," Max shrugged. "Theres some options, but I'm sure they aren't ideal for him. I'm sure Blake is working in overtime."

"God," Shay shook her head. "I really thought after all the comments made about his contract, Mclaren would've been smarter than this. Dan better get his money out of that one."

"Maybe you should reach out," Max said lightly, throwing his hands up in surrender when Shay whipped around to glare at him.

unknown

fuck em all. show them what they've lost

daniel

did you literally change your number to ignore me?

shay

and now im going to do it again

shay

I was trying to be nice but nvm

daniel

no no. I appreciate it

daniel

FEA

"Hello?" Shay asked with stuttered breath as she answered her phone. Her chest had gotten tight as soon as she saw the caller ID.

"Hi Shay," Daniel sighed into the receiver. "I'm sorry to call out of the blue. Do you have a sec?"

"Yeah Dan," she smiled slightly as she leaned on her desk in the Red Bull F1 office. "What's going on?"

"I just," he sighed. "I want you to know I understand that the blame of how things went down between us is on me. I should've-."

"No Dan," she cut him off. "It's not all on you. I reacted poorly. I knew you were struggling and I could've cut you some slack, but I let my hurt cloud everything. I could've been a bit more forgiving."

"Well, thank you for saying that," he smiled to himself. "I do regret things. And thats why I wanted to be the one to tell you this. Christian wants me to come on as the third driver. And as long as you and I are good, I want to say yes."

"Oh Dan," Shay beamed. "You are so fucking back baby."

And so the game began again. Daniel was back with Red Bull and in the garage, and though Shay was Max's Media Manager this time around, it just meant the three of them were attached at the hip. But the Daniel and Shay betting pool had absolutely been restarted.

The energy in Red Bull was at an all time high. The team doing so well, and having Daniel back was like a double boost in morale. Daniel's reputation within Red Bull was excellent, clearly so since Christian had jumped at the chance to bring the Aussie back.

The team though had a lot of new faces since Daniel had left. And so he was learning a lot of new names and team members. And he already had a few to keep his eye on based on the way they acted with Shay.

"Have you not shut that down?" Daniel asked Max quietly as the two stood in the garage and watched as one of the newer mechanics put his hand on Shay's shoulder as the two spoke.

"Mate," Max laughed. "No. She's my friend, I don't care if she dates a mechanic."

"She's too good for them," Daniel frowned. "I always gave my boys the shovel talk back then."

"Dan, you did that because you wanted to be the one dating her," Max said dead pan. "You gave me the shovel talk too. Everyone knows why you're doing it."

"Do you think she knows?" Daniel asked with a panic, running after Max's retreating form

*

"You okay?" Shay asked as she peaked into the drivers room in Alpha Tauri where a down trodden honey badger resided.

"Think it's broken," Daniel said with a sad smile. He had been racing for three weekends before it was ripped away again.

"Okay, we can work with that!" Shay tried to encourage as she went as sat next to him, resting her hand on his thigh. "You'll see a doctor, and then we can get a treatment plan in place and-"

"You know I'm in love with you right?" Daniel interrupted, watching Shay's face as his comment sunk in.

"I mean I love you too bud," she laughed nervously.

"No, like, I'm in love with you," Daniel said assuredly. "I think we're meant to be together. And today, flying toward that barrier, I couldn't help but think that I didn't want to go another day without saying it."

"Daniel," Shay murmured as she looked into his brown eyes for a moment before smirking. "Come here you idiot," she grabbed a hold of his collar and yanked him in for their first kiss of many.

*

Christian and Gerri split the multi thousand dollar pot, compiled over years of betting with attendees across the paddock. A phone tree had to be used to inform everyone that the bet terms had been met. Retired drivers, old team principals, and even ex partners had to be called to let everyone know that Daniel and Shay were finally, Daniel and Shay.

#daniel ricciardo x oc #fluff #f1 #formula one imagine #formula one #f1 imagine #f1 driver #f1 driver imagine #formula 1 imagine #formula 1 driver #imagine #daniel ricciardo imagine #daniel ricciardo

[skippyv20]

I watched the video...cringe and more cringe... funny how all the people they called "surprise" had cameras recording them 😂😂😂😂 honestly when I went on twitter and saw the pics of the video I thought it was fake... harry sometimes looks like edited in the picture can it be??? you can tell the video was heavily edited but it still doesn't do them any favours 😂 TW looks tense the whole time , just look at her jaw, she also wears her typical fake smile but she's a very bad actress and you can tell besides being tense she's angry. I was surprised by the fact that she never looks at Harry not even once or tries to touch him ( A miracle) Harry doesn't look at her much either, only once. It's all very awkward, they are out of tune. It was an epic fail this PR stunt.

They are consistent….every PR stunt fails!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[papayafiles]

watch drive to survive with me, a lando fan with absolutely zero chill, season 6 episode 3 edition:

(this got so long it literally exceeded tumblr's character limit, which i did not know existed until now, so i'm splitting it into two parts and posting it anyway because what is a tumblr blog for if not dramatic unhinged public breakdowns!)

it hasn't even started and i'm already Losing My Mind

"the brand cries out for more performance" with angsty heavy music... i forgot how dramatic drive to survive was. the music really enhances the stakes here.

"we did go backwards last year. no denying" cut to daniel struggling at the back 😭 he's not even in the team anymore and he's still catching strays. drive to survive editors have zero chill.

dramatic conversation between zac brown and a mclaren exec about how poorly things are giong... cut straight to lando walking into his interview with rice cakes smiling and giggling. I LOVE HIM.

the squeal of excitement that came out of my mouth at his VERY FIRST line (it's one word: "wow". wow indeed lando norris. you. yes. wow. i need to stop)

producer: "did you break it?" lando: *instantly looks concerned and checks*

LMAO not oscar waving his arms in front of the mtc double doors trying to motion sensor them open... only to fail epically 😭 dork (affectionate)

LANDOSCAR <3

oscar arriving late to the first mclaren team meeting and immediately thinking to ask his guide if lando's arrived yet vs lando making a point of pointing out that he beat oscar there 😭 idiots

lando watching oscar walk into the room for the first time with a contemplative expression… what are you thinking in that beautiful curly head of yours

oscar, doing an official interview about mclaren f1 vs lando, in the corner, eyeing him up and down: oscar’s quite tall, huh? he doesn’t look tall, but he is. he’s also like 15.

trademark dts beat drop after will buxton finishes dramatically chatting shit oh i've missed this

lando face scrunch count: 1

oh no we’re doing bahrain

i didn’t watch bahrain live so i didn’t know it was this bad 😭 wdym 25-30 second long fifth stop of the race my god

“red bull DOMINATES bahrain” yeah yeah shut up

claire williams??? what is she doing here

lando looking distraught cut the cameras i can’t do this 😭

“is it too soon to call it a crisis?” f1 journalists have zero chill (derogatory)

mclaren were DEAD LAST?? i was not aware

not christian horner again 😭 leave lando ALONE! he doesn’t want you!! netflix pls stop exploiting cute norstappen clips for your rbr lando agenda i do NOT endorse this

christian horner saying lando would fit really well in the red bull environment…………… in WHAT world

i’m so interested in seeing how conversations with pr managers go… like this is so fun to see them go through the bullet points of what topics journalists might ask and the ~vibe~ they want to be giving in their responses

…okay netflix i REALLY feel like you’re taking clips out of context and splicing them together to form a narrative here. and i get that that’s your whole job. but i think i also get why lando signed that renewal so early now 😭 warding off dts bullshit before it can even start to hit

“we’re so slow on the straight” dipping to a whisper like a confession he didn’t mean to slip out… glance up then back down again… i see you storytellers weaving the narrative. i see you. i get it. you really don't need to keep going

okay i know lando and zak are having a very serious conversation in this scene but also. lando in golf clothes. arms. AND legs. bronze tanned smooth skin... i’m not even thirsting here i’m just pointing out OBJECTIVE facts that are possibly maybe a little bit distracting me from… whatever they're talking about

“i’ll do my best, as always” ❤️ he always does

will buxton shut UP

why are they spending so much time on miami... they weren’t even good there… we’re getting more angst aren’t we.

ohh i forgot how pretty the red bull miami liveries were

nevermind they’re showing max lapping the mclarens. no longer pretty. fuck that livery actually

lando sounds so depressed on the radio i’m going through it 😭

did he really say haha. LOL. :/ on the radio 😭😭😭

“i’m not suggesting it may look bad. i’m suggesting it is bad”

lando saying "fucking hell" on the radio count: 2

okay do we really need another montage of team principals ragging on mclaren. we get it! you want him! he has a line of admirers a mile long! move on!!

NORRUSSEL CONTENT

according to george there are drivers who drink during normal race weekends?? lando throwing up his hands as the camera points toward him like not me! (i can't tell if george is joking but that sounds crazy to me? i bet it's either a really depressed backmarker or max after winning the wdc on a saturday)

not george calling the mclarens horrendous 😭 have some mercy

……………………………………...........

NETFLIX—

cut the cameras.

NETFLIX WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO ME

the way i'm actually in tears 😭 i'm so fragile right now do not talk to me

"this is the worst start to any season i've ever had. i want to be the best driver there is in formula 1. that's why i started my whole journey" THEN THEY CUT TO HIM IN A GO-KART??? A MONTAGE SEQUENCE???

they really edited together a mini montage of lando's whole journey including interview clips of him as a young child then put a voiceover of his tiny baby voice saying "i need to be stronger and not make so many mistakes" over video footage of adult lando looking depressed out the plane window and expected me to just be okay after that.

then they go straight into a montage of zak brown and lando's history together going way back ("first time i met lando, he was a small 14 year old ... he was very shy, as you'd expect a 14 year old... he was very fast.") cutting between old photos of them together pre-f1 with emotional music ("i think the first time he drove a racecar it was probably mine") oh! okay then!!

"i would love to create the story and finish the story and everything with mclaren. i really would love that." EVERYTHING HURTS

why does watching this episode make me feel like he's going to leave mclaren when i KNOW he just signed a contract extension? the magic of mood-setting background music and splicing clips together

zak brown meeting with all the sponsors... he is a stronger man than me. i would be freaking out in his position. it's also insane how much is riding on literal sports results from a corporation/business perspective? like the amount of pressure on f1 drivers to deliver is wild and here we are giggling at our silly clown sport and its silly circus events

oh claire williams shut up

(you don't even have a job in f1 anymore why are you still HERE)

[shayshaybiscuit25]

Seb probably warned him not to do it after his disastrous PR nonsense also Mackie is staying away as she is a racist but Evans is very pig headed and thought it would be ok! He comes across narcisstic to me MO.

Little did he know 20 odd years of making his name has been flushed down the toilet like a big fat dump!

Well he’s aged 20 years in a year he looks old, gaunt, drugged up to his eyeballs for what to be like Marilyn Monroe or be controlled like Brian Wilson. A controlled CAA puppet!

He’s done this for one thing for money and from the rumblings around Hollywood he’s on the verge of going bankrupt!

Plus he forgets that his fans have been the ones lining his pockets.

Unfortunately Chris Evans needs his fans to make him relevant, no one really knows his apart from those who know the marvel movies and know him for playing Captain America! Shame as he’s Captain Hydra associating with nazis who’d have thought huh?🤔

Every time there’s a PR drop NYC Papwalk, scarevideo VD dump and “Wedding” ( when there’s no certificate) loads have left and the ones that stay want to see this blow up in their faces eating their popcorn watching the downfall,

Also another aspect too as immigration being inundated with complaints from real life real couples who are the queue and complaining why that troll bitch jumped the queue as they have been waiting for months or some years for their other non American half to reside with them legally.

Plus she also failed her green card due to lack of education as she dropped out of school and has nothing to offer the USA in the lines of academic or professional status she’s a shit unemployed lazy actress who can’t act her way out of a paper bag! She has nothing lined up as she’s black listed due to her vile nature or being xenophobic fat shaming and a Nazi racist too!

So I’m sure immigration are waiting for the right moment to pounce as I’m sure they know!

So chill peeps and let watch them both get karma for gaslighting this fandom 2024 is gonna be an epic year for a fallout watch this space 😈

I just want it to end.

[hologramcowboy]

This was also the same Jensen that said he worked to hard for 15 years for them to fuck everything up and Danneel said that since she had to work on a toxic set with long hours, they could handle working long hours while sick as well. I find it hilarious that this is the most they have ever done for their own show, the last time they put this much effort was when they advertised themselves more than the cast and show. Their sheer desperation is giving unemployment, which lets be real they are. They lost TW once they made that deal with Amazon, they have no say in where TW lands and they aren’t the EPs for it anymore. They saw how much they fucked up, and got fired for it and Jensen called Kripke to get his deal with Amazon. What they are doing right now is trying to save face and pretend they didn’t fail this show from the beginning. They couldn’t care less about the cast and if they do, it most likely stems from guilt. Instead of coming off as authentic, they are coming off as desperate and pathetic. As far am I’m concerned, the Ackles’ deserved everything they got.

I hope the cast of TW will find work elsewhere, when the writers strike lifts. They are the only ones that deserved so much better than this.

Exactly, it's all a PR stunt in an attempt to desperately save face. Epic fail.

I too hope the young ones will find ideal roles but most of all i hope they level up as actors so as to never be under the thumb of manipulative people that will use them for their own gain and then toss them away.

Jensen and Danneel went for a deal with Amazon but did not negotiate TW into it so....that says everything. Hope the cast of TW will wake up and realize who they are dealing with. The Ackles are only about the Ackles.

#anti the winchesters #anti jenneel

[brostateexam]

A week ago, Sam Bankman-Fried was the boy-wonder face of crypto: A 30-year-old who founded one of the biggest cryptocurrency exchanges in the world, a celebrated philanthropist worth an estimated $16 billion, and a major Democratic donor who quickly found favor in Washington. By Friday, he was at the center of an epic flameout that left his empire and his image as an uncannily sharp, altruistic billionaire in ruins.

In the annals of crypto disasters, the tale of Bankman-Fried may go down as one of the most jaw-dropping. He resigned from his crypto exchange, FTX, as it collapsed from a domino effect of a surge in customers trying to withdraw their funds, and the company filed for bankruptcy. The Wall Street Journal has reported that Bankman-Fried may have illegally taken about $10 billion in FTX customers’ funds for his trading firm, Alameda Research, whose future is also in peril. And Bankman-Fried is now worth close to nothing.

The downfall of FTX isn’t a typical story of crypto’s volatility or investor risk-taking; it didn’t crumble due to bad luck, but what now appears to be unsustainable layers of deception. On the surface, FTX appeared to be thriving — in the past year, it made several high-profile acquisitions and bailed out other failing crypto companies.In reality, it was drowning in debt. At least $1 billion in customer funds is reportedly missing. The stunning contrast between image and reality has resulted in Bankman-Fried facing a reputational fall from grace swifter than any in recent memory. According to reporting from several news outlets, the DOJ and SEC are investigating FTX, andhis friends and admirers in crypto, philanthropic, and political circles have quickly begun distancing themselves from the man widely dubbed the king of crypto.

Shot

___

Last night, Sam Bankman-Fried DMed me on Twitter.

That was surprising. I’d spoken to Bankman-Fried via Zoom earlier in the summer when I was working on a profile of him, so I reached out to him via DM on November 13, after news broke that his cryptocurrency exchange had collapsed, with billions in customer deposits apparently gone. I didn’t expect him to respond — typically, people under investigation by both the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Department of Justice don’t return requests for comment.

Bankman-Fried, though, apparently wanted to talk. About how FTX and his hedge fund Alameda Research had gambled with customer money without, he claims, realizing that’s what they were doing. About who gets lauded as a hero and who’s the fall guy. About regulators. (“Fuck regulators.”) About what he regrets (“Chapter 11,” the decision to declare bankruptcy) and about what he would have done differently with FTX and Alameda (“more careful accounting + offboard Alameda from FTX once FTX could live on its own”).

It was past midnight Bahamas time, where Bankman-Fried is reportedly still located, and we went back and forth on Twitter for more than an hour. He was, he said, still working to try to raise the funding needed to pay back all his depositors.

As we messaged, I was trying to make sense of what, behind the PR and the charitable donations and the lobbying, Bankman-Fried actually believes about what’s right and what’s wrong — and especially the ethics of what he did and the industry he worked in. Looming over our whole conversation was the fact that people who trusted him have lost their savings, and that he’s done incalculable damage to everything he proclaimed only a few weeks ago to care about. The grief and pain he has caused is immense, and I came away from our conversation appalled by much of what he said. But if these mistakes haunted him, he largely didn’t show it.

(Disclosure: This August, Bankman-Fried’s philanthropic family foundation, Building a Stronger Future, awarded Vox’s Future Perfect a grant for a 2023 reporting project. That project is now on pause.)

Chaser

#long reads #ftx meltdown

[wellthatwasaletdown]

"She’s a 38 year Director trying to be taken seriously. This is an epic fail by the Art Director, the stylist, her PR team and herself."

Just ask yourself would Chris Nolan do this type of photo shoot to promote his movie? Chloé Zhao? Kathryn Bigelow?

Well . . .

[majaloveschris]

I'm still team PR, I feel the more they try to shove this relationship down our throats they're failing epically. It just doesn't ring true and now we get the leaked pictures on the same day the official one from Disney was released and also on the same day everything was getting ramped up about Albas real boyfriend, AND we were saying how suspect that WDW video was.

Icing on the cake all those pictures were taken over the space over one or two days, you couldn't make this up. He obviously signed up fir this, I hope he realises what a joke he's become and hoe disgusting he looks now to most fans.

They are definitely trying too hard, but they need to sell this relationship. 

#cevans-love #chris and alba pr

[houseofbrat]

Even by KP’s lazy standards, this is just awful!! 🫠

https://x.com/baronessbruck/status/1762566264789045555?s=46

Would love to know your thoughts HoB 😂

https://x.com/baronessbruck/status/1762566264789045555?s=46

Oh, it's pretty shameful, particularly when you consider Prince & Princess Michael of Kent attended the service, even though their son-in-law just died.

Princess Alexandra attended in a wheelchair.

But William couldn't attend due to "personal reasons."

Regardless of whatever people thought about King Constantine II, he was William's godfather. King Charles III and King Constantine II were close, even as distant relatives.

William didn't attend his funeral last year while Gabriella did. Now William couldn't attend a service of thanksgiving even though it was held in Windsor, where William lives.

Cue The Will & Kate Cult making all sorts of excuses about how this is related to Kate's health or whatever. It's ridiculous. If Kate wasn't well enough for William to leave her alone at home, then she needs to be back in a hospital. She was clearly well enough to make the 100+ mile trip to Sandringham and back during the kids' most recent break. And did people forget that the BRF has their own medial team? Doctors, nurses, etc.? Plus housekeepers, chefs, nanny, etc.

I'm with @mysteriouslytransparentwitch. It wouldn't surprise me if William is having a mental breakdown. In fact, it's right on cue.

#ask #twitter #daily mail #pr fail #The Workshy Waleses #Workshy Will #William The Terrible #prince william #William The Prince of Wales #Prince & Princess OWN GOALS #Wales fans are CHUMPS #scandal! #ESCANDALO!!! #Wales fandom ARMAGEDDON #crazy cambridge stans #The Will & Kate Cult #epic tale of DUMB #Wales kid number FOUR #princess basement baby #The Celebrity Activists also known as The Prince & Princess of Wales #Wales Wailers #2024: Year of The Wood Dragon

[jerseydeanne]

SS ditched the nearly broke Harkles and their so called PR person isn’t very good, the Harkles are one epic fail after another. fSilicon Valley no longer has a reputation for anything but fraud and dishonesty so their PR person is no great shakes.

Agreed.

Thanks for your submission, botanya.

#submission #PR #meghan markle #prince harry #sunshine sachs #archewell

[aboutanancientenquiry]

The Egyptians and the dead: the wooden simulacres of the dead presented in the Egyptian banquets as described by Herodotus and the custom of keeping the mummies in the houses

 I reproduce here several paragraphs of the very interesting text of Pr. Barbara Borg “The Dead as a Guest at Table? Continuity and Change in the Egyptian Cult of the Dead”, in M. L. Bierbrier (ed.), Portraits and Masks. Burial customs in Roman Egypt. Colloquium London 13.-14.7.1995 (London 1997), p. 26-32

“In his epic poem Punica (13.475) Silius Italicus describes the visit of Scipio Africanus to the underworld. There Scipio meets the ghost of Appius Claudius, who was fatally wounded near Capua. Appius laments that he could not find peace because his friends had failed to cremate and bury his body. Scipio wishes to do him this favour but claims that he does not know according to which rites it should be done, so he lists a number of different practices: 'All over the world the practice is different in this matter , and unlikeness of opinion produces variou s ways of burying the dead and disposing of their ashes. In the land of Spain, we are told (it is an ancient custom) the bodies of the dead are devoured by loathly vultures. When a king dies in Hyrcania, it is the rule to let dogs have access to the corpse. The Egyptians enclose their dead, standing in an upright position, in a coffin of stone, and worship it; and they admit a bloodless spectre to their banquets.' 1 The text goes on like this but we will stop here because our interest today is directed at the Egyptian practice.

We find confirmation for this in Lucian' s De luctu (21): ' Up t o that point, the wailing , the same stupid custom prevails everywhere ; but in what follows , the burial, they have apportioned out among themselves , nation by nation, the different modes.The Greek burns, the Persian buries, the Indian encases in glass, the Scythian eats, the Egyptian salts. And the latter — I have seen whereof I speak — after drying the dead man makes him his guest at table!' 2

These reports by two authors of the first and second centuries AD strike a modern reader as being fairly strange. One would expect them to have instantaneously provoked scientific curiosity. Surprisingly, this is not the case, and these passages have aroused little or no interest. It is, however, not the place here to examine the reasons for this awkward silence within the academic community. 3

First of all, one should notice that there can be little doubt as to the veracity of these statements. Teles, Diodorus, Cicero and Sextus Empiricus confirm that the Egyptians kept the mummies of their relatives at home. 4 To be sure, some of the texts show great similarity and therefore may depend on each other or on still another common source. 5 But at least two authors knew Egypt personally. Diodorus visited Alexandria during the180th Olympiad (60—56 BC) — moreover , R. Merkelbach recently confirmed the general reliability of paragraphs I 91-9 3 by comparing Diodorus' description of the judgement-ceremonial with evidence from the papyri 6 - while Lucian spent  several years in Egypt, where he held a high position in the office of the prefect of Egypt. For the most intriguing part in the passage quoted above, the participation of mummies at banquets, he even stresses his testimony as an eyewitness.

In some of the texts the Egyptians and their strange habits clearly function as 'the other ' of Greeks or Romans. 7 Nevertheless, this does not necessarily indicate that the habits used in this way were simply invented for the purpose. In the case of Egypt, particularly, there existed enough bizarre practices to serve these needs, and this applies not only to mummification itself. Animal worship, for example, proved to be a major argument in the mostly unfavourable conceptions of Egypt, as propagated by non-Egyptian authors. However, it was also an actual and widespread practice in Graeco-Roman Egyptian popular religion. 8

We find further evidence in Christian texts which relate that even the Coptic Christians used to keep the preserved and adorned bodies of venerated persons, predominantly martyrs, above ground. According to Athanasius this custom drove St Anthony into the desert to await his death in solitude. 9 It was this custom again (and not mummification itself) that provoked the censure of bishops and other higher clergy — an idle censure, as it turned out, as is shown not least by the display and worship of relics up to the present day. It can hardly be imagined that the Copts 'invented' the habit themselves, but it is plausible to presume that they adopted it from their pagan predecessors. 10

Support for our hypothesis can be found in the mummies themselves: Flinders Petrie reports that several of the mummies he excavated at Hawara 'had been much injured by exposure during a long period before burial'. The 'mummies had often been knocked about, the stucco chipped off.' They were 'dirtied, fly-marked, caked with dust which was bound on by rain'.  In the footcases of the mummies 'the wrapping h ad been used by children, who scribbled caricatures upon it.' Petrie already connected his observations with the tradition that the dead were kept in the houses of their relatives and also assumed a domestic cult for them. 11

The passage in Herodotus which Petrie and others succeeding him drew upon cannot, however, serve as proof. Herodotus reports (2.78) that at banquets people in Egypt used to show around a well-made and nicely painted νεκρόν ξύλινον to remind the participants of the transitoriness of life and to encourage them to enjoy the advantages of the present.There are two main reasons why this cannot possibly have anything to do with the custom we are considering here. First of all, it appears highly unlikely that νεκρόν ξύλινον could ever be translated as mummy. The expression must refer to some sort of wooden figure of a dead person or even of death itself - one to two ells long, according to Herodotus. It may well be a wooden skeleton, as is indicated by banquet equipment with representations of skeletons.12 Secondly, the sense of the procedure described by Herodotus is contrary to the whole meaning connected with a mummy, especially one of a relative.13 The mummy was a symbol of and guarantor not for death but for life, even though for an other worldly one .”

“What, then, was the origin of that custom? Neither in Greek nor in Roman religion is there any indication of a domestic cult of the dead. Likewise, in pharaonic Egypt the dead were not kept in the house of the relatives but, after embalming, were accompanied in a ceremonial procession to the tomb, where they were buried and received sacrifices. Later on they were commemorated on various days. The family offered sacrifices at the tomb and apparently also invited guests to a solemn banquet that took place in special rooms of the temple. 31 

However, for some time now, an increasing number of references have indicated that there already existed in pharaonic times a cult for the deceased in the house of the relatives...”

“In conclusion, then, there are several clear indications of a domestic ancestral cult already in place in pharaonic Egypt, a cult that could be celebrated even in front of images of the deceased! 36 Such cults seem to have been the exception rather than the rule, and up to now there is no chronological series into the Greek and Roman periods. There may be two main reasons for this. First, excavations of living quarters that could provide further data are still rather scarce and, secondly, we face a problem of visibility — or lack of attention to less clearly visible material. Ancestral cult was mainly part of the popular religion, the beliefs among the middle and lower classes,37 whereas the material evidence that usually catches the attention of archaeologists and Egyptologists gives information only about the uppermost class and its ideology. One reason for the fact that most of the evidence for ancestral cult comes from Dei r el-Medina may be the very ability of the craftsmen living there to manifest their beliefs in a more 'visible' form. Thus, in spite of the lack of contemporary evidence , the later custom of keeping the mummies of the deceased in the house can only be derived from the Egyptian ancestral cult.”

“The significance of the step from venerating the dead in the presence of substitutes like stelae or busts, or from the depiction of banquets for the dead, to the factual, physical attendance of the deceased in the form of his mummy, cannot be overestimated, and it would be most interesting to know when it was made and under what circumstances. It was no later than the third century BC, as we know from Teles, but it may have been even earlier. Once the practice was introduced, the new form of the portrait mummy must have fulfilled the requirements of the cult as wel l as the demand for representation particularly well.’

[Conclusion] “Whatever the religious beliefs and social implications in connection with the display and veneration of portrait mummies may have been precisely, the fact that mummies were kept in the house for some time, and most probably received some sort of cult there, helps to explain the discrepancy between the character of the mummies — costly but weakened in their magic powers by their new worldly shape — and their careless, sometimes even rude burial without any grave markers. The Egyptian ancestral cult rarely goes back more than one or two generations , as is shown not least by the inscriptions on th e akh-iker stelae.47 This leads to the assumption that the portrait mummies were kept in the house for approximately the same time. After the immediate relatives had died themselves, and after interest in the more distant ancestors had faded, the mummies may have been handed over to the temple in charge. As is shown by the different contexts , the kind of burial they were given depended on many factors that can only be identified on the basis of new evidence and extensive research. 48 In the case of the careless burials mentioned above, a proper family tomb was obviously not available. Perhaps the relatives were not interested any more in an expensive burial and entrusted the mummies of their ancestors to the priests or servants of the temple who, away from the control of the family, cared as little for the burial as they often did before for the treatment of the bodies during embalming.49″

Source on the net with the communication in its entirety https://archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/propylaeumdok/407/1/Borg_The_Dead_as_a_Guest_at_Table_1997.pdf

Barbara Elisabeth Borg FSA (born 26 December 1960) is Professor of Classical Archaeology at the University of Exeter.[1] She is known in particular for her work on Roman tombs, the language of classical art, and geoarchaeology. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Borg

Herodotus’ passage on the wooden simulacres of the dead used in Egyptian banquets is as follows (2.78, ancient Greek original and its translation by A. D. Godley):

Ἐν δὲ τῇσι συνουσίῃσι τοῖσι εὐδαίμοσι αὐτῶν, ἐπεὰν ἀπὸ δείπνου γένωνται, περιφέρει ἀνὴρ νεκρὸν ἐν σορῷ ξύλινον πεποιημένον, μεμιμημένον ἐς τὰ μάλιστα καὶ γραφῇ καὶ ἔργῳ, μέγαθος ὅσον τε πηχυαῖον​ ἢ δίπηχυν, δεικνὺς δὲ ἑκάστῳ τῶν συμποτέων λέγει " Ἐς τοῦτον ὀρέων πῖνέ τε καὶ τέρπευ· ἔσεαι γὰρ ἀποθανὼν τοιοῦτος." ταῦτα μὲν παρὰ τὰ συμπόσια ποιεῦσι.

After rich men's repasts, a man carries around an image in a coffin, painted and carved in exact imitation of a corpse two or four feet long. This he shows to each of the company, saying “While you drink and enjoy, look on this; for to this state you must come when you die.” Such is the custom at their symposia.

I think that Pr. Borg is totally right that Herodotus writes that wooden simulacres of the dead were presented in the Egyptian banquets of his era, not the mummies themselves. On the other hand, perhaps Herodotus’ text shows that the tradition of painting veristic individualized portraits of the dead has also Egyptian roots and it was not just an imitation of a Roman custom, as it seems that Pr. Borg claims elsewhere in her text. I say this because the simulacres described by Herodotus may be understood as representations of a corpse in general, but nothing excludes that they were imitations of relatives of the persons who offered the banquets. Moreover, perhaps the presentation of wooden simulacres of the dead in the banquets of upper class Egyptians of the fifth century BCE should be seen as a step toward the generalization of the domestic ancestral cult, which was for a long time, as Pr. Borg says, part of the popular religion of the lower and middle classes of the Egyptian population, with eventual form of this domestic ancestral cult, again as Pr. Borg says, the keeping of the mummies in the Egyptian houses.

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[outrunningthedark]

you think the show has realized that if it's not buddie we don't want it lol. the reaction to lucy should tell them and the GA also hated her so they epically failed there as well.

I think the higher-ups involved with creating the show know how passionate Buddie fandom is, and they had to expect backlash after not only the first couple AK interviews, but the ones with Tim and KR dismissing the idea.

What they were not prepared for is how Lucy has been rejected by OTHER fans, too. Whether it's people who "just want the old firefam back", or who actually like(d) Taylor, or consider Buck their fave and are pissed that he cheated...the criticism is EVERYWHERE. The PR team is absolutely pandering to its audience. In a week's time they went from retweeting AK promoting the episode, plus three clips of her (though brief), and last night? Just two from the tv wedding call - the first one she's simply there, and the second she says "No!" along with Hen and Bobby when that guy asked them to sign release forms. And as we've probably all heard by now, they've deleted the BL promo pic from insta. (Probably left it up on Twitter because there aren't that many replies.)

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[hologramcowboy]

I’m sure you don’t share most insider information given that you don’t want it to fall into the wrong hands // make it to the crazy side of the fandom, but any word on how things are going on the set of The Winchesters? I know Jensen has been busy filming for Big Sky and his Buddy Games 2 cameo, so has Danneel been on set representing them and pretending to work? I would have thought the TW cast would have taken a similar route to the WIndy cast and used social media to show behind the scenes to build up hype for the project, especially because Meg does that for her Disney projects and they’re all that young, social media focused age. But it’s been very quiet from that project, and I can’t help but wonder why. I know it’s a low budget embarrassment so Jensen is going to mostly avoid it, but the powers that be are still trying to make it happen (even creation is getting in on the ruse) and this is the first real job for many in the cast so they should be trying their hardest to turn this into an experience they can make a career out of.

"should be trying their hardest to turn this into an experience they can make a career out of."

THIS. Yet all we get is amateur like posts now and then that just make the whole project look cheap and the cast unprofessional. If Elta is working it's probably on her next face. 🤣 Even the Costume department epically failed the show. I mean, there's not much to expect and you are 150% right, they should be putting the right twist on this series with the help of a great PR company to save the project or at least give it a fighting chance. Yet the lack of enthusiasm comes through and it's reflected in everything that gets put out. It seems like everyone is being overly cautious about this series so perhaps they are already aware it won't be going forward after the ordered episodes.

#Anti spn prequel #Anti the winchesters #jensen and casting #hologram cowboy #hologramcowboy

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[my-own-bisaching-life]

2/28/24

today was a spectacular flop. a fail of most epic proportions.

first and second were both normal. mr. keogh is his usual jolly self and terris is a nut ball. i dont feel bad when i clean up early to go smoke in the green room bathroom in his class. an odd part of me feels like he would commend me for it.

something that was of note was when i was sitting next to juan and he sort of yelled " damn move " because i was sitting right next to him. and i was like jeez. and hugh said something like woah man. it makes me feel nice when hugh interjects. he's the voice i don't have. and juan started giggling which of course i cant help but fall prey to. and i was giggling too and he apologized which was kind.

where it starts to get bad is the pr shoot. i was already feeling crazy bc i was a little high but my sitzzy died so that fucking sucked. and i was feeling so weird about how i looked in my costume. but still i truged on. it was all okay. it was fine.

gioia kept seing people up during fourth to change little things. which of course is what we always do, i know that, but its stuff that would've been nice if we could plan a little farther in advance. and then came 4:00. when we were all to be inspected to see what was going to be changed.

and they look and they look and they look. and they mutter and murmur in the house, shrouded in darkness and the distance between us provided them an level of privacy.

" We need a new shirt for gavin. And the pants don't look right. " i knew at this point i was defiantly making a face. scoffing a little likely, likely under my breath. where are we going to find a shirt, what pants do we even have?! i said loud enough to where they could probably hear me.

" And a'xela needs shoes. " what shoes?! i said again loud enough as in started to storm towards the costume room. thats when it happened.

" Malia. Come talk to us down here " and she waved me to the house. i made my way through the line instinctivly uttering and " oh no " under my breath as i styarted into the lights, making my was to the stairs. i looked past kyra and lily, i couldn't bare to face them.

" Why are you frudtrated? "

" im just overwhelemed and it feel like this always happens where we don't have enough time-"

" Exactly. This always happens and we always make it work. "

" but this time we really don't. have any other options, so when you say put him in a different shirt i don't know what to do. because there is no other shirt. "

" Well do you want someone else to do it? "

" no! no. i can. "

and i don't remember what exactly happened next. i made my way back onto the stage, my demeanor similar to that of a kicked dog, retreating with my tail between my legs. the loud click of my character shoes being one of the only noises in the quiet theatre.

" come with me gavin. " " me?- " " yes you. "

i scrunched my eyes and bit back tears, i let my feelings out in harsh stomps feeling my shoes bend under the pressure. i clacked my way up the steep stairs of the costume loft. " the stomper " juan said as i came up the final few steps. i b-lined to the rack and gave gavin the new outfit to try on. " dude im so upset " and i relayed to him all that had happened as i pinched the bridge of my nose and pinched back tears.

and he said nice words. and held me. and rubbed my back. and said my name. and above all that. he offered to come downstairs with me. and on top of that. stayed by my side to help me figure out what to do.

after a little while of me making my way back and forth and back and forth jake finally made his way backstage to help. and he was pulling things and there was lots of up and down the stiars and holding up and cutting and replacing.

at one point he described wanting a short sleeve button up shirt, but all we could find were ones that were huge. and then he pulls this, one could call it awful, pink shirt with yellow details. it was loud and bright and out color pallet is muted cools especially blue.

" its the right shape but . . " he trailed off. i mean he just didn't want to say what he were all thinking, my god that shirts ugly!

" why not? " i look at him. he looks back.

" should we try it? " he says with a his classic jake smile.

" i think we should " and since gioia chewed me out it was the first time i smiled. and felt a tinge of happiness.

and it worked perfectly. and looked awesome. and at some point i called it the best thing we've ever done. he said to me " sometimes you just need your partners to say yes, and i needed you to say yes " and later on he made a joke about it being, " malia and jakes best costume ever " and oh how i smiled. oh how i, dare i say, swooned? if hearing people refer to me and juan as a unit, imagine how i felt when jake made us a unit. oh that does something to me.

and before that, when he still hadn't come up to the loft, he gave me a high five and said how he didn't get the chance to tell me at the beginning but that this was an amazing starting point. and it felt nice to hear him say that.

i get the feeling that he was being extra kind to me because of my public scolding. but hey. whatever works.

and a different moment of being. so. soft. when juan asked me to try on his pants. the classic grey ones, now a dyed black that nearly looks purple. but they were his, and so notoriously his . and they smelled like him. and it was so. sweetie pie. and silly. and jessie saying he copied me with the pants. oh how i giggle.

oh how we laugh about it. oh how we joke, the same line thats been repeted to more then one person, " he showed me the pants, i just bought them first "

its so sweet having history with someone. being intertwined with someone. like earlier still trying to figure out the gavin situation,

" can he wear your sweater? "

" its hers " he says throwing a finger in my direction.

i wonder what jake thought about it. in a really weird and sort of freak twisted way. i cannot believe his excuse on build day to not finishing whatever he was doing was that he was looking for me. how sweet that boy is. or when i was helping juliet and he made his way over to the edge of the stage and started to speak. and before he could even say anything juilet syas " no you can't have her shes mine! " and oh how silly it made me!

he hadn't said a word, and she knew he was there for me! oh how wonderful it is to be attached to people. oh how lovely it is to be a pair.