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tobi-smp · 5 months

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the problem with talking about ghostbur's relation to wilbur is that going too far in Either direction muddles the waters.

people like to think of ghostbur as an entirely separate entity from wilbur, where nothing about him informs wilbur as a character. this often comes packed with dehumanization, either of Wilbur (with ghostbur being the Good version of wilbur while wilbur is the bad) or of Ghostbur (why does it matter how anybody treats ghostbur when he isn't Really wilbur).

and it's strange and uncomfortable ! because ghostbur so clearly gives us an insight on wilbur as a person. we learn so much About wilbur Through ghostbur. it's just ! absurd to use one to lessen the other when they're so clearly different views of the same Whole.

but at the same time, I Remember ghostbur begging for personhood. I Remember ghostbur begging to have his feelings taken seriously, to be seen as more than just a joke. I remember ghostbur building tommy a home in logstedsire and mourning when it was lost. I remember him mourning new l'manberg. I remember him wanting to bring wilbur back. I remember how tommy mourned him. built him a grave a Grieved him when nobody else did because they didn't think they had to. why would they, when wilbur was right there in front of them? I remember, I Remember.

and the thing About ghostbur is that I Do think that he is a reflection of wilbur. it's ridiculous to try to say that one doesn't inform us of the other.

but I think about how much of his character is wrapped around this desperate want for Personhood. trying to figure out who he is, to carve a place for himself as the memory of someone who was already gone and yet a fully formed being perfectly capable of feeling emotion.

and I think that, too, is a reflection on wilbur.

ghostbur didn't want to be wilbur because Wilbur didn't want to be wilbur anymore. but wilbur didn't know What to be either. trying to break out of the mold he made for himself and figure out what it means now to live as a Person with agency and feelings that matter.

wilbur didn't kill himself because it was an inevitable part of his story as the villain, he did it because he was sad. learning how to be someone who can admit that was Hard.

he'd cried as the president of l'manberg over the pressure of being responsible for everyone, of not being able to live up to what he thought he had to be. and we learned that from ghostbur.

and like ! it's exactly Because of all of this that I can't find it in me to deny ghostbur his personhood. to look at someone who once begged people to realize that he has feelings that Matter, that the things that happen to him Matter because he has agency, because he's a person, and to say No.

I had a theory, once, that the thing that made ranboo Ranboo is that he was half dead. there was the enderwalk that remembered everything, and there was ranboo who lived as a separate antonymous person. ranboo is, in a way, a reflection of this other person, and yet he's not Lesser as a person either. ranboo being formed around a smaller pool of memories means that he grows Differently from this enderwalk version of himself. his personality shifts, the choices he makes are different, even if fundamentally the building blocks are shared.

I had a theory, then, that the whole point of ranboo dying was to have this enderwalk and our ranboo Fuse. not into the whole person that ranboo was split from, but into the New person that they make together.

and that's how I like to conceptualize wilbur and ghostbur. not two unrelated entities and yet both People in their own right.

moreover, that's exactly what I would've liked for them as well.

#dream smp #wilbur soot #ghostbur #ranboo #enderwalk #suicide mention #meta #ranboo stans gonna be confused until the end here

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cirrusea · 10 months

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I can never sleep, even in my dreams

#dream smp #dsmp #ranboo #c!ranboo #eye horror #dsmp ranboo #enderwalk #my art #hi uh yeah. the scrimble

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transbeeduo · 11 months

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thinking about the horrible characterization of Enderwalk Ranboo back in like 2021 what the fuck was everyone doing. Why was there so much angst where it’s just “oooo they KILL. Their FAMILY oooo”

#I THINK ABOUT IT A LOT IT MAKES ME MAD #grr its just. so wrong to me #enderwalk #c!ranboo #ranboo #crunch’s nibbles

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nocinovae · 4 months

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Eggza is q!Phil’s enderwalk.

#qsmp #qsmp philza #dsmp ranboo #enderwalk

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tylernolbottle · 1 year

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benchtrio scribbles— idk i was 😶‍🌫️

[reblogs appreciated even though it’s a scribble]

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if-loki-was-a-fox · 6 months

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Why do the Lovejoy/Wilbur lyrics keep reminding of this guy

#this was very ehh halfway through but I think it turned out alright :)#my art #my dsmp art #ranboo #dsmp ranboo #cranboo #c!ranboo #dsmp #dsmp fanart #enderwalk #enderwalk ranboo

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alliumdykes · 3 months

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new pfp i just lovve this silly goofy drawing i did heres the transparent version if you want to use it and put ur own behind it just credit me pls 👍

#sailor's doodles #dsmp #cranboo #enderwalk #dsmp pfp #dsmp fanart #ranboo fanart

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lasnevadascryptid · 5 months

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I'm gonna say something that might be controversial but I'll say it anyways.

Ahem.

Ranboo's lore is unoriginal by dream SMP standards, not just as a concept. Naturally it's unoriginal by concept standards other people have come up with this idea before.

But on the dsmp he is not the only person to have this lore, and this issue for lack of a better word is why I LOATH to bits people scapegoating CC dream for whoever the CCs didn't or don't communicate. He may have owned the server but the lore wasn't is idea and largely didn't partake in lore, and from what I understand didn't overlook it either.

My impression from looking at fans talk about the lore behind the scenes stuff was that Wilbur was to some unknown extent in charge. But as I heard more stories and rumors about the treatment of the server's playerbase towards their fellow player, it became clear neither was true, and it was always that responsibility to communicate with the other players fell upon to the individual CC to do so, not Wilbur and certainly not Dream as many seem to claim.

Even your favorites are guilty of this, you should scapegoat Dream to ignore the issue just because they're your favorites and Dream is easy to punch down on and pin all the problems of the server on. Hell I rarely see any drama go by without Dream being dragged in as blame partly blamed on him regardless of we know or not he's involved or to blame. He is partly to blame, but not solely like I see a lot of people imply.

The miscommunication problem should have been called out a lot sooner, evidence was kinda always there, but it's now way too late, and i genuinely think some good would have happened if it was addressed.

For example:

Fundy and Ranboo have the exact concept for their lore. And it's never addressed. This is lead to a lot of interesting parallels and themes between the two that are never acknowledged. If it wasn't for the fact the way they discussed their lore and ideas for it, I'd assume it's intentional but it's very clearly not and I think their lore suffers for it.

What is Fundy and Ranboo's lore? Well, person has a supposed subconscious other version of themself with powers the consciousness version doesn't have, and causes the person to have issues sleeping, and generally causes them bouts of severe mentally health issues and "spells" of unreality and disassociations.

This subconscious self claims to the same person as the awake conscious self, and claims to genuinely want to help, but does so in a way that comes across as scary, unhelpful, strange and unusual, their actions and methods concerning. They also claim not to exist. Also, the more this subconscious self takes over, the worse the mental health of the waking conscious self gets.

In both cases this leads the person to another person with a smile motif often known for being shady or morally grey at best, others of the server often keeping their distance from this smile man. Though when they met this smile man, it's in a dream, and it may not even be the real person, the real deal, but rather something conjured up by the subconscious self to serve a purpose of sorts.

Especially now on the QSMP it's plastered everywhere to point if I wonder it's meant to be subconscious programming of sorts and for whom.

Besides a man with a dubious moral code and smile motif, they also come across a mysterious entity. For Ranboo, his Enderwalk ARG calls this entity Z. Just Z. And as for Fundy, it's not named, but there is a shadowy cloaked figure that chases him until he wakes up.

In both cases, they eventually give into this subconscious self seeking help and guidance, hoping for answers from the self proclaimed subconscious version of them directly.

And that's kinda it. Nothing comes from the similarities, and as far as I can tell. They aren't intended to be this similar. I WANT to theorize that they are similar because Z/"Nightmare" is lying to Fundy and Ranboo for some unknown reasons.

But it's basically confirmed that's not the case, Ranboo implied he didn't really know what they wanted from their character having changed their lore and even species a lot, eventually settle on: full blooded enderman that's just a chimera/half albino, and he's not possssed by anything it's genuinely a subconscious self that trusts dream for some/no reason???

And it's too similar to be Fundy somehow was predicted or copying Ranboo in the sense of again, Ranboo kept changing what he wanted the end to be, hell he changed how his death was play out, Wilbur confirmed it was gonna be self sacrifice to save Tubbo only for it to changed to be by Sam's blade.

I largely believe things could have been different if they just communicated, especially given how to some extent unintentionally Fundy gets replaced by Ranboo as Philza's grandson, as in Philza rejects Fundy in lore and disowns him only to turn around and allows Ranboo to live with him and Techno in their secluded fuck off away from everyone else cabin when they shunned nearly everyone else. Additionally Ranboo's being Fundy's last ally prior to Las Nevadas.

It could have been very interesting. It's clear as CCs they talked but also clear there similarities by chance are not intentional. The only thing that hints that I'm wrong here in my eyes is Z talks to Fundy in ender only for Fundy to realize what it means, meaning CC fundy knew about the ender walk but to what extent?????

:(((((((((((((((( stuff like this makes wish things... turned out differently. I genuinely wanted a s2 of dsmp. But seeing the CCs either not show up the ender dragon fight and or slowly quietly leave. Just. Ugh. The community thrives just bittersweet seeing the CCs move on to greener pastures.

#dsmp #dsmp ranboo #dream smp lore #dsmp lore #ranboo #fundy #dsmp fundy #enderwalk

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willingcannibalvictim · 7 months

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Voretober Day Three: Sin

i decided to do the sin of wrath for this one lol. tasty enderwalk ranboo content w/tommy (i don’t have homework so it’s ART TIME BABYYY)

#g/t #mcyt g/t #enderwalk #giant!ranboo #tiny!tommy #t!tommy #g!ranboo #dsmp #allium duo #im prob gonna do tomorrow’s prompt #felix arts stuff #voretober #voretober 2023

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vestathenervous · 7 months

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Look what I found

#ranboo #dream #enderduo #endersmile #enderwalk arg #enderwalk #dream smp #dsmp #👉👈

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linx-the-sphinx · 10 months

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Redraw of my first DSMP fanart Redraw drawn on: 06/19/2023 Original drawn on: 07/06/2021

#my artwork #digital art #dreamsmp #ranboo #ranboo fanart #enderwalk #dsmp #dsmp ranboo #redraw

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that-thing-in-the-closet · 1 year

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Thinking about what the Enderwalk storyline couldve been if Ranboo didnt get actual c!Dream involved directly.

Ranboo arriving in a new server and immediately gets hunted down by the servers admin for an hour. Ranboo makes friends with Tommy and Tubbo, people who hate Dream but dont talk about what he did besides "it was bad, people died. Ranboo watches as Dream turns Tommy and Tubbo against each other. Ranboo watches Tommy get worse the longer hes with Dream in exile. Ranboo doesnt like dream. Ranboo starts heraing Dreams voice.

Imagine seeing this man consistently hurt your friends, full on abusing one of them, and then you start to hear his voice telling you what to do. Ranboo starts to think hes becoming like Dream and then he starts getting closer with Tubbo, before he knows it theyre getting married for tax benefits, but in the back of his mind he cant help but think that if Tubbo were to ever find out about the "voice" he'd feel betrayed. I mean the man he married is obviously a monster if hes thinking like him.

This is where the experiments start. Ranboo tries increasingly harmful methods to remove the voice, to prove he's nothing like the man who hurt his family. This eventually leads him to Phil, maybe when his experiments leave him too battered and bruised to take care of it himself, and Phil understands. Phil knows all about Technos voices and while they arent quite the same, he can help Ranboo.

How it develops from there im not sure, maybe Techno himself gets involved to train Ranboo how Phil trained him, use the voices instead of block them. Maybe Phil gives Ranboo some old journals that detail the study of a similar state he's been experiencing by an author known as Z and Ranboo goes on a journey to find them, leaving his family behind and promising to return when he doesnt feel a danger to them.

The Enderwalk storyline could've been amazing if Ranboo didnt have to rely on many people to tell the story.

I need to read some fics of this now i miss new lmanberg ranboo