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cirr0stratus · 10 months
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“There was a time when we weren't enemies. Perhaps that time has come again.”
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callmevexx · 4 months
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Korkie's first day at school and Satine is so proud of her son nephew💙
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mercysong-tardis · 4 months
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Deleted TCW scene. You KNOW Satine would visit Corosaunt during the summer for the view.
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flamingtoads · 9 months
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betyoudidntcatchthat · 2 months
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petition for more obi wan and satine content
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every reblog is a signature
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yoda-soda-66 · 11 months
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Does anybody in the galaxy actually know who Korkie Kryze is? Like seriously. He's the nephew of both Satine and Bo (supposedly), but they don't have a third sibling as far as we know so WHERE DID HE COME FROM IN CANON??? I almost completely accepted the headcanon that he's Satine and Obi-Wan's kid, but if he canonically were I feel like he would have been mentioned again by now. And he's definitely not Bo-Katan's??? So like??? Did he just spawn and Satine and Bo were like "okay yeah you're fun, we'll claim you."?????
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Mandalorian History 101
The following is a simplified timeline of all the major events in Mandalorian history leading up to The Clone Wars. This is compiled from the section of The Bounty Hunter Code dealing with Death Watch and Mandalorian history. It is copywrite 2014, the first year of the new canon. Though the book is not included in Disney canon, it was published after TCW episodes dealing Death Watch and not been refuted by anything in current canon, so there is no reason to believe it is not accurate. 
approx. 7000 BBY - The Taung race (Progenitors of present day Mandalorians) cleanse Mandalorian space of its inhabitants and lay down roots
approx. 4000 BBY - Mandalorians fight alongside the Sith in the Great Sith War, but are betrayed - Mand’alor the Ultimate opens up the creed to their slaves and conquered people because their race is dying out - They begin a campaign for galactic conquest called The Onlaught, but it was more to fill out their ranks with new recruits - They are defeated by the Republic and the Mandalorians lay low for a time
approx. 1100 BBY - Mand’alor the Uniter brought the best and brightest Mandalorians from the throughout the galaxy home - Warriors ruled, protecting the artisans, manufacturers, and laborers who supported them, and the vassals and servants who supported them in turn - The Darksaber is forged by Tarre Vizsla (the only Mandalorian to become a Jedi)
approx. 700 BBY - Mandalorians begin to stir again and the Jedi take up arms, nearly wiped them out in the “Annihilation” - The New Mandalorians who rejected the warrior ways gain power when the Republic installed them in the government - The Aka’liit (The Mandalorian Faithful to the warrior way) lived in the shadows, giving the allegiance to the True Mandalores they appointed
approx. 200 BBY - There is a split among the Faithful – some wanted to conquer any potential threats while others argued against starting wars and living by more peaceful means
approx. 60 BBY - The Faithful chose Jaster Mereel as the True Mandalore, who wanted to implement honorable rules of conduct for all Mandalorians on how they earn wealth by bounty hunting or the red trade - Tor Vizsla, who dreamed of Mandalorians returning to their roots as conquerors, split away and formed the Death Watch, becoming the Secret Mandalore. The Death Watch used the Darksaber (an heirloom of House Vizsla) as a symbol of their authority and made a decree than anyone could challenge the Secret Mandalore for leadership and “win” the Darksaber*
52 BBY - Tor Vizsla killed the True Mandalore, Jaster Mereel - Jango Fett’s adopted father
44 BBY - The Death Watch tricked the Jedi into eliminating the True Mandalorians for them
approx. 44-39 BBY - The Great Clan Wars take place within the ranks of the The Faithful - Adonai Kryze is killed in battle - Duchess Satine Kryze of the New Mandalorians assumes the throne of Mandalore - Tor Vizsla is killed by Jango Fett in 42 BBY - The Darksaber is entrusted to Pre Vizsla, governor of Concordia and the new Secret Mandalore of Death Watch, who takes in Bo-Katan Kryze as his protege
Since the Great Clan Wars take place after the True Mandalorians are wiped out, we know that Adonai Kryze was not part of their ranks. The following quote from Tor Vizsla concerning the Kryze family suggests that Adonai was one of his men, or was at least revered by him. Considering that Tor dies shortly after this is written, it’s not a big leap to see how Bo-Katan came to be on Concordia with Pre Vizsla, his successor. 
“Meanwhile, centuries of New Mandalorian lies had left the Mando’ade weak and soft. One of my kinswomen, the Duchess Satine Kryze, had been sent offworld as a child by her father, a mighy clan warlord, and she fell prey to the lies of the Jedi. After father perished in the Great Clan Wars, she betrayed his memory by becoming the leader of the New Mandalorians. Aided by Jedi tricks, she became the newest Anti-Mandalore, whereupon the exhausted Mando’ade flocked to her banner. Some of our warriors were exiled to the moon Concordia. Others – myself included – slipped away to resume the ba’slan shev’la.” - Tor Vizsla
* The decree that one could become Mand’alor by winning the Darksaber in combat from the current Mand’alor was an invention of Death Watch (in canon and legends), so it suggests a strong tie between Death Watch and the Children of the Watch that the latter is so hung up on this “tradition” when it’s only been a thing for about 70-75 years. 
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r0gerr0ger · 8 months
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More thoughts about Satine’s pacifism…
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So I read this post the other day that suggested Satine’s period of rule was just a blip in Mandalore’s history, that she only maintained power because she’d won it in battle, and that Mandalorians were glad to return to their traditionalist ways and… it just really irked me.
Because that’s not true at all??
When we meet Satine in TCW, it’s super clear that she was very popular, and a good ruler. In only 15-20 years, she’s restored Sundari to prosperity, and is a city that appears very wealthy with a satisfied population. She herself is very invested in her people, helps directly with social and political matters. She’s managed to rebuild worlds and cities devastated by war and environmental issues.
There’s never any kind of explanation exactly as to her style of rule. Certainly she’s not a constitutional monarch but there is a prime minister and council, and regional governors, so she’s no autocrat. This suggests democracy, and her people thus voting for continued pacifist policies/leaders.
(We also only see issues/events occur that in any society would involve leaders, regardless of how much a role they play in politics)
I mean sure, it’s the capital city and we don’t really see anywhere else. And there’s also corruption, hunger, terrorism, etc.- but a lot of the latter issues are because of outside forces (galactic war and the sith) that she does remarkably well, in my opinion, to combat for several years.
So already that’s a lot of evidence to suggest pacifism/modernism was widely popular amongst Mandalorians and not just a blip.
(Also, she may have come to power through battle, but this suggests there was an incredibly strong military and public force behind her ascendancy to the throne in order to win a civil war that had been waging essentially for decades- therefore illustrating mandalorians wanted pacifism, and she didn’t just usurp her position)
Then to the suggestion they were glad to return to their military ways…
People often use the state of Mandalore in Rebels/The Mandalorian to argue that the warrior culture was a more natural and preferred one among Mandalorians.
But this isn’t what we see at all.
We return to Mandalore in Rebels like 17/18 years after we last saw it in TCW. In this time, an extremist clan and the empire have been ruling the system.
We’ve seen the scale and ability of the empire’s propaganda missions already- erasing or changing history, destroying entire races- particularly with the jedi.
Alongside a ruler encouraging/forcing his people to re-embrace their martial past, of course it’s going to appear as if Mandalorian society has returned to its ‘original’ state of violence and warfare.
And yet, even though it’s gone back to clan warfare and endless, unnecessary fighting, that’s not what the people want at all.
Even though the Mandalorians we meet in Rebels are characterised as especially traditional (clan wren allied with death watch; fenn rau fought alongside the republic and later the empire, going against satine’s political status) they are never actually fighting for a return to their martial past.
Instead, the whole storyline is about uniting Mandalorians, pushing out the oppressive empire, ending the civil wars, etc.
Sure, they want to retain more of their martial culture than Satine did, but perhaps here is where we can argue that Sundari was a bit of an exception by being so especially modernist, whereas other planets and communities still retained many elements of their warrior culture- such as wearing the armour- even if not engaging in warfare.
Again, there is a similar storyline in The Mandalorian season 3- despite the fact that this is about the most extreme group of Mandalorians. It’s still about uniting together, rebuilding their world, ending war and violence among each other, protecting each other.
Therefore, I think it’s clear that actually, even if not to quite the same degree (but then, it’s likely this would come later once the last 2 decades of military propaganda had been overcome) Mandalorians didn’t want to retain their military past, but wanted to move in a more pacifist direction.
The only thing I have some issue arguing against is what we see in TCW when Satine is overthrown, where the masses really quickly switch to supporting death watch/Vizsla.
I’ve talked here about why this may be the case but even many of my arguments on that post don’t properly explain why a city that in previous seasons we saw offering mass support for satine and prospering under pacifism, suddenly turned so against her.
Really, I put this down to TCW being, in the end, a show aimed at younger audiences, and needing to get the point across clearly and dramatically that death watch and maul had manipulated people, and that’s why it seems so out of place.
(Does anyone have more to say on this than me? I’d find other’s perspective on this, whatever that perspective is, really interesting)
Either way, it’s made continually clear that Satine’s rule was far from a blip in Mandalorian history, or that Mandalorians only ever barely tolerated her.
Their martial society was a thing of the past. People were sick of it. Satine won the clan wars for a reason, and was a very effective ruler for many years until events outside her control (that frankly would have negatively impacted even the most golden ruler) meant she fell from power.
Had there not been the clone war or the sith, she would undoubtedly have continued to rule, and mandalore continued to stay pacifist.
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(I also think it’s a shame we never saw more of mandalorian society during Satine’s rule. We only focus on her and other political rulers at that time, and when we later return to mandalore it’s all from the perspective of either extremists like din djarin and his sect, or again more political leaders/rulers that have an especially militaristic past.)
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strawberryvulture · 6 months
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give me a satine kryze who hates her father. give me a satine who was her father’s greatest failure. give me a satine who was an embarrassment to him. give me a satine who has not forgiven him. give me a satine who is not entirely sad that he’s dead. give me a satine who was just a child. give me a satine who is angry. give me a satine who survived.
give me a satine who understands that her father embraced pacifism toward the end and doesn’t care. give me a satine who cannot forget his war-mongering. give me a satine who inherited a tainted name. give me a satine who spits on her father’s grave.
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notaghost3 · 1 year
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Anyone else think the Duchess of Plazir-15 is a mirror of Satine Kryze? 👀
First of all DUCHESS
Second of all she’s in charge of a PEACEFUL and DOMED city planet
Third…married to the love of her life whose past isn’t entirely approved by her planet’s people? (Mirroring what could’ve been with Obi Wan as the Duke of Mandalore?)
PLUS look at that flower headdress/cape…it can’t be more obvious, right??
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evaarade · 15 days
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"Satine Enforced her Pacifism on the people"
Ummmm, where?
Like, literally, where?
We are only told the following: Satine was elected by the New Mandos aka the CONFIRMED majority of the people of Mandalore; Satine Possibly exiled a the warriors out of Mandalore (possibly, because Almec had every reason to lie in that moment and because I think that @/smalltheurlsweretaken theory that it was more of a treaty for the warriors to not start shit in return of having the least damaged location in the sector); She knows Mando'a and how to fight and so the kids in the Academy; She steps down the moment people don't want her in charge.
So like. WHERE'S the enforcing?????
You can't argue it was exiling the warriors, because we do know that they were a Minority and that there still remained warriors in Mandalore thanks to the confirmation that the Protectors were the Royal Guard but with more traditional armour. Plus we see that the kids Do know how to fight, and if they were trying to ban being warriors then the kids, specifically the nephew of the Duchess and his friends, wouldn't know how to fight
You can't argue it's banning the language, because we see it all over Mandalore (even in the Academy) (post by @/ahsoka-in-a-hood)And we have Satine be the only canonical character to speak it in the show.
You can't argue that it's via erasing over history, when we see all over the place Murals, some of which are possibly older than Satine herself.
so like. Where's the enforcing??????
Where is Satine, who left the post of ruling Mandalore the second people didn't want her there, enforcing her pacifism on the Mandalorians?
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cirr0stratus · 3 months
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before the world was big
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callmevexx · 1 month
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Happy Valentine's day to them and only them💕❤️
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mercysong-tardis · 5 months
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Obitine Dance
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Tumblr absolutely ATE UP my last Obitine drawing so here; Theyre dancing (:
One with a background and one with an *Aesthetic* background. This was partially inspired by my WIP fanfic "Dance with me, Duchess"
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piccolaromana · 8 months
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Satine, I will always love you.
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i feel more free than i have in years, six feet in the ground
doomsday by lizzy mcalpine
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