#dsmp critical

[mellohirust]

so we all agree that dsmp volume 1 is ours forever now right. right. i love you fanon i love you canon-divergency i love you aus i love you fanartists and fic authors and game devs and musicians and cosplayers i love you dsmpblr etc

#dsmp critical #just read liveblogs. erm. #i think that was just. all of my least favorite tropes roped into one you cannot be serious ToT #a two year long hyperfixation for THIS... naur. #love the community though. you guys are cool ^^. very creative and talented people here #z.txt

[thedialup]

moving from dsmp to hermitcraft is like when you switch schools and then your old school straight up explodes

#dsmp critical #SORRYYYY

[itssideria]

honestly it would have been fucking fine if the last thing he did wasn't sympathise with his fucking abuser.

like. you know what. i'm down for server reset ending! it could work! it COULD be cool and interesting and whatever. but not if the last thing people remember is c!tommy feeling sorry for c!dream. not if they remember c!tommy fucking saying sorry. and it's not even the "i understand you" speech or whatever thats FINE who CARES it's how sympathetic they made that abusive piece of shit in his final moments. if the last thing before it all exploded was "fuck you for everything you did" towards dream i wouldn't have been NEARLY as upset. if the new world didn't have them immediately act friendly toward each other. i wouldn't have been upset. like it's not the worst conclusion overall but it IS the the worst fucking conclusion to ctommy and cdreams relationship. what the fuck

#negativity #dream smp #dsmp spoilers #dsmp critical #mari talks

[proudfreakmetarusonniku]

god what the fuck happened with limbo like it was cool when with like tommy and wilbur it was like a psychological manifestation of their trauma and in general was just a miserable traumatic but ultimately mostly just dull experience that was Actually akin to real life concepts of limbo- that is, in between literal hell and actual heaven and not really a place of punishment or reward just kinda boring and shitty. like limbo is an actual theological concept and the original depictions of limbo were inspired by like, the actual concept!

but then it just became a super-hell nightmare realm with weird convoluted rules and the part of it that actually made it like actual fucking limbo like the concept it was based on which was it kinda just being boring and miserable and that’s why it was bad was ditched for torture nightmare scenarios or whatever the fuck the finale tried and failed to do. like that’s not even at all related to what the word limbo means and it’s making the whole thing confusing. like, is limbo the only afterlife? bc why should i care about anything if that’s the case people are just going to end up being tortured forever because limbo now is just inconsistent angst and not just like the boring depression afterlife. what the fuck do some of these limbos even have to do with the character why do they suddenly have omniscience why should we trust it is limbo sentient? what the fuck is going on????

#dsmp critical #dream smp #sorry it makes my nerd brain very angry #IF ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO LIMBO DON'T CALL IT THAT AAAAAA JUST MAKE A NEW AFTERLIFE ITD MAKE MORE SENSE

[wilbug]

not to sound chronically online but i dont trust people who hate ctommy. "he wouldnt act like that after what he went through" just say you cant handle "non-perfect" victims bro

#deleting later #sunrise.txt #c!tommy #discourse #dsmp critical #<- just in case

[flamedoesart]

a ramble bc flame needs to chat for a min

i don't get it

i really don't

i already hate dream, but the fact that he had all these insanely fucking talented people on his smp (mind you, this shit doesn't happen often) and has a lightning-in-a-bottle story that spawned over the course of a pandemic and gained so much massive internet fame to a point where it leaked into the real world (remember Trump replying to Quackity? Lil Nas X going on the dsmp?)

and he just. blew it.

like it boggles my mind.

this is the same guy who swore up and down this year that things would be better, that communication would improve, that vol 2 would be a new era for the smp and we'd get constant lore.

vol 2 was meant to begin back in September. no wonder c!wilbur's finale was so rushed.

with all this shit coming out about the finale, it's becoming more and more clear that basically none of the cc's were really consulted about this finale and it appears to have just come up randomly and wasn't planned in advance.

even ignoring the Allegations, this is still such a shit thing to do to your fellow ccs. you would think given how popular the dsmp is and how much it supposedly matters to dream himself, he'd be busting his ass to make sure that every cc is heard, and that if he needed help he'd have a few co-managers to keep track of lore and everything.

BUT NOPE.

instead we got a rushed c!wilbur finale (that is pointless now bc vol 2 is still not out), a damage control, impulse-made c!tommy finale (that shitted on everything c!tommy's story meant) and a syndicate finale that was good, but it could've been Great if the amnesia plot wasn't chucked in.

part of me genuinely believes dsmp doesn't matter to dream outside of money anymore, bc that man hasn't interacted w the lore in good faith in well over a year by now. every time this year he logged on, it was to either do damage control lore, or to help snf piss off fans.

most of the issues trace back to him, bc it just seems Oh So Funny that his character was the central conflict to s4 (or rather, was supposed to be) and yet he fucked off for almost a year. not even c!tommy's plot with c!phil and c!sapnap happened bc they needed dream and woopdy-doo it didn't fucking happen.

and if even tommy couldn't reach dream, why the fuck would anyone else be able to?

what a fucking waste.

#flame talks #dsmp #negativity #critical #dream negativity #cc critical #dsmp critical

[linktoo]

the biggest tonal dissonance is hearing ccTommy say this in his offline chat:

which felt very mature! Very aware of the narrative theyve built!

and then in the finale reducing his character's differences with cdream down to "you just needed a friend" and "truly understanding" him. To say "hey, what if this isn't making you truly happy? :<" and raising a hand out to someone who has gaslighted and tortured and physically hurt him and so many other people around him. At least to me, shows the juxtaposition between him as a cc and him playing a character. Tommyinnit, the content creator, did not strive to tell a story with such dark themes; and is incredibly privileged as a person (as far as we know) to not have to go through those things himself.

He may understand, on a fundamental level, that his character is a clearly victim of abuse. He may understand how violent, disgusting, and awful that is to go through. But, through this lens, has NO clue how to deal with the aftermath.

And that's the problem: there are real abuse victims out there. And they saw themselves and resonated with his character's reactions in these situations. People have these traumatic experiences, but are left to figure out how to move on. To have it with them for the rest of their lives to deal with these situations, whether they fully escape said abuser(s) or not.

And ccTommy has in no way had to LIVE with this trauma. You cannot walk away from all of this unscathed. It's a bit awkward. The only way that ccTommy would be able to see any light from this ending is... see it in someone else's perspective! Try to find the optimism in it all, make a friend out of it, sympathize, and wipe out everyones memories and start all over. Start fresh. Real victims do not have that as an option. It's harmful and reductive and every other word in the book. THATS why so much of the community has said dsmp's narrative fits best with a path of healing, not needless angst.

What kind of message are you leaving your whole audience with this kind of ending?

#don't get me fucking started how insidiously it parallels with irl cc's too. it disgusts me. #what a horrible message to leave with your audience #I saw a lot of myself in these characters and... seeing how it all played out #is incredibly disheartening. #and it feels very insulting to end a story like this #dsmp #dream smp #dsmp critical #tw abuse #linktoo rambles

[cupcraft]

i think for me whats sitting unsatisfying too is like not only the lack of a ctommy win and finally ahving safety (which was main goal for a long ass time) but also just the way the cdream story was botched too. Like it could've been so interesting to have him finally lose, his hubris catching up with him, server connecting to finally fight him and mean it this time. Like i will not forgive this ending for not fulfilling the theme that cranboo set in place ages ago which was realizing that cdream is the problem and then allowing space for safety and reconciliations.

#cup.dsmp #if that makes sense #dsmp critical

[wonda-cat]

The End of Las Nevadas; A Beautifully Made Stream with Nothing to Say

(All names are in reference to the characters unless stated otherwise.)

While glossy, well-shot, and technically impressive, the Las Nevadas Finale leaves a lot to be desired in ways I haven't seen anyone mention—sporting flaws in its foundations that stretch farther than just its story development.

In no particular order, I'll be breaking down each part one-by-one to hopefully shed some light on things I've felt alone so far in noticing.

Pacing

This stream was undoubtedly beautiful; making great use of snappy transitions, a fantastic set of shots, and several well-edited montage sequences. cc!Quackity's lore has always been lovingly and painstakingly crafted. However, while it is stellar in the visual and editing department, it still stands to grow with regards to its pacing. Previous episodes have suffered from slow pacing in some areas, but this episode seems its polar opposite.

Each scene and line races past, only to be bogged down with extremely elongated establishing shots that could've been trimmed in half. Every plot moment doesn't give itself time to breathe and exist as it cuts to something else that speeds by just as nauseatingly. The ending especially reflects this as, once Quackity has lost another life and the country is damaged, there's a few speedy lines of closing exposition and... that's it.

That's how it all wraps up. It doesn't let the audience take in what happened or question if it's something repairable or even wonder how Q would react to the fallout. We're just told the result, flat and plainly, and then it's closing credits.

On the flip side, the scene where Ranboo and MD talk takes up an absurd Ten Minutes of the runtime (time which could've been used to develop other plot beats, which I'll mention later) where they don't mention much of anything important. It drives the story momentum to a grinding halt.

Scenes which did take their time to breathe were Calamity Duo's intro scene, the moment where Punz and Purpled negotiate, and Charlie's speech to Q in the hotel, followed by Q's death.

Music

Even with these moments of pacing brevity, there's still the prevailing issue on top which is this stream's use of music. Previous Las Nevadas episodes have executed their music cues well when they were necessary (all of cc!Quackity's montages excel at this), and it was because they understood the necessary balance between when to add music and when to leave the scene silent.

Music, when used effectively, can aid the tone of a scene. However, when used clumsily, it can fight against the tone set by the dialogue and actions of the characters. Oftentimes, silence can be more effective than any music ever could be because it leaves the dialogue and story to speak for itself and allows the audience to exist in the moment with the characters.

Throughout the entire stream, there was not a single moment of silence. Every moment was accompanied by music and about half were in active odds with its tone.

The most prevalent of these were the pieces accompanying Quackity's visit to Charlie's grave, Quackity's death, and Charlie's speech, all of which would've greatly benefited from silence, as the music ends up distracting from the moment, drawing more attention to itself than it should.

Story

While other Las Nevadas episodes have followed the standard Three Act structure, this one... does not. A conflict is introduced on Quackity's end and is never followed up on. There is no second-act low point; the period where the protagonist should be at their most hopeless.

And because there is no main-staying conflict (even harking over from previous episodes), the climax of the stream feels especially weak. Although it does call back to previous hanging plot threads, like Charlie's disappearance, Dream's quest for revenge, and Quackity's plans to open the casino, it still leaves the stream feeling meandering and pointless.

It says an awful lot that I've seen more discussion over a single speech and two lines of dialogue ("How to BE human. How to THINK like humans.") than any other aspect of its story.

By breaking its content down step by step, the sheer bare-bones development becomes apparent—The episode opens with a flashback, which delivers information the audience already knows. Then we're introduced to the grave scene, which hints at an off-screen moment between Charlie and Quackity that is never called back to (something which centers around the key to the city, an item which has no significance other than to be inserted into the episode for merch purposes.)

Again, it re-establishes information the audience already knows—Quackity cares a lot for Charlie. Then we introduce the main conflict; Quackity opens the country and no one visits. Thus, he makes a plan to genetically engineer citizens.

However we never see them used practically to solve this problem, so the conflict initially sparking this development turns the solution pointless. Then we get a scene of Punz convincing Purpled to aid Dream to torture Quackity by using Charlie to get to him. This sets the stakes.

(It also implies that Dream's offer to Foolish didn't go through? I suppose this is yet again another moment relegated to off-screen development, which would've only benefited the audience to actually see, unless this plot development is later touched on in Volume Two. I won't hold my breath.)

Then we get an... unrelated scene of Ranboo and MD that doesn't develop the plot—something which was most definitely added last minute (probably at cc!Ranboo's request.) Suddenly, we jump to post-Charlie's shift in character, where Dream appears with Punz and Purpled with absolutely no buildup.

During this scene, Quackity calls on Foolish for help and all the genetically engineered citizens are released and instantly solve the conflict at hand, quashing the tension flat. Then Charlie has his speech, throwing both Purpled and Quackity from the hotel. All of this, concluding on Las Nevadas' destruction (which turns out to not matter because... we were told so through exposition), and Quackity decides to forgive all of his enemies.

If picked apart, it becomes obvious just how thinly stretched the plot is and how many vital scenes of buildup are simply missing entirely. We never get a scene of Charlie coming back to himself and having his intentions twisted by Dream—even if the reveal implies Charlie was aware of everyone's motivations to use him from the get-go. We never see a moment of Dream and Purpled's trek to Las Nevadas, signalling to the audience of their arrival and amplifying tension.

We never get time to settle on Quackity and Charlie's reunion, which was rushed through (another unfortunate thing, since it's been highly anticipated for almost a full year now.) We never see how the genetically engineered citizens actually solve Q's population problem.

All of this is Necessary buildup to bring cohesion to the narrative, and would've even alleviated a lot of the pacing issues. It is especially egregious how script-driven and transplanted the slime army was to the story because it was introduced solely to dig Quackity out of a narrative hole. The conflict of Las Nevadas' population seems contrived specifically to put a roadblock in the way of Dream succeeding in his plans, because the audience is more than aware of how perfectly capable he is of this.

Therefore the conflict and Quackity's decision to create genetically cloned citizens feel as if they were puppeteered cartoonishly to be an easy solution to a later narrative conflict. All of which, unfortunately, decimated the tension of the scene because there was no time for Quackity to realistically feel in danger.

Dream

It goes without saying that Dream used to be one of the most intimidating and formidable villains in the story's history. Just the simple act of him logging on used to fill thousands of audience member's hearts with fear. However, with the unending bout of lore hiatuses and the dragging on of the Prison Arc, followed by another period of nothing, it has left a damper on the formidability of him as an antagonist.

This was dug even deeper with his rather lackluster attempt at revenge on Quackity, which goes wrong in a very... flat way. Since we're never shown what Charlie was told to do, believe, or say, the audience is left in utter confusion as to what Dream planned to use Charlie for to begin with. Even if he was only meant to emotionally toy with Q, Dream doesn't say a thing to Charlie, who stands behind Quackity and does nothing for a good few minutes.

Then when the slime army comes to attack, Dream just... gets instantly overwhelmed? And instead of going after Quackity again once the hoard is dead, he just resigns to blowing up Las Nevadas a teeny tiny bit.

Certainly not a Doomsday attempt, which is what the audience has come to expect at this point—overkill. That is Dream's specialty. However, he doesn't.

Once the destruction is over, Dream doesn't pursue Quackity further, despite going to LNVs with the sole intent of capturing him, dragging him off, and torturing him to death; along with destroying everything and everyone he loves. In the end, this is yet again the script pupeteering the actions of the characters.

The writers need Dream to not succeed, or else they can't carry this conflict over into Volume Two. And if that's not what they're planning to do then the question of why this happened will only multiply.

Charlie and Quackity

The dramatic shift and decay of this pair's respective characters and relationship is this stream's second greatest detriment, just shy of its empty story content. Quackity's decision to create a genetically engineered body of citizens because he misses Charlie and wants people who are "just like him" is startlingly out of character, shatters the perception of Dap Duo's friendship foundation, and presides on a logically flawed premise.

Quackity is a character who is naturally protective of those who are weak, innocent, or who remind him of himself. He goes out of his way to self-sacrifice for them, and this is especially true with Tommy and Charlie. Quackity knows that true friends are rare for him and are something special and meant to be cherished, even if he closes himself off, pushes them away, and pretends not to care.

It is possible to buy Quackity missing Charlie enough to create copies of him, however this has no real buildup. There's no turn to the more extreme and dramatic to overcome his loss. And worst of all, it is specifically the loss that is de-emphasized in favor of a short-term solution to a problem wholly manufactured by the script to later solve the central conflict.

It comes out of nowhere and is gone just as fast. On top of it, its implications are troubling as Quackity has shown an urge to control things, but never to this degree and not this heartlessly. This change for the worse can work, certainly.

A gradual change for the worse or the better is what character development is all about. However, this change is instant, jarring, and again, has no buildup. The cruelty of this action is also never addressed and Quackity's inclination to it is never foreshadowed (most likely because it was never meant to be dwelt on, as it's only added to the story to thwart Dream's plans.)

There's also the deeper implications of Quackity genetically cloning beings that are meant to be "like Charlie." It implies that Quackity has always seen Charlie as someone mindlessly obedient and disposable—someone who is more like a pet, than an actual friend, when we were consistently shown otherwise.

Quackity started off initially planning to use Charlie's naivety to his advantage to get him to spy for him. However, as time went on, he formed a genuine connection to him, and thus dropped this initial plan. Instead, because he came to trust him and care for him as a friend, he chose him as the inheritor of all his work. In a backwards way, he tries to teach Charlie everything he knows.

Not manipulate him, not lie to him—tell him exactly how Quackity himself sees the world and how he wishes Charlie to see it too; because he wants Charlie to be safe and because he wants Charlie to keep his nation safe. He comes to see Charlie as someone human, and when Charlie is hurt, Quackity dives in after to save him at the potential expense of his own life. When Charlie dies, it destroys Quackity.

How could it not? That was his first true friend he'd made in a long, long time. However, with this new development, it shatters what was previously established, showing that Quackity only ever saw Charlie as someone who could be made again, who was nothing but a follower (despite teaching him to be a future leader); someone who he never saw as human.

There's also the majorly overlooked issue of him searching for the perfect follower in "someone just like Charlie." Sure, Charlie was naive and went along with many orders, but he consistently questioned Quackity. He consistently took apart the logic of his arguments, his lessons, his ideals.

He laid them down, piece by piece, in a way that left Quackity to question himself. Charlie was never a perfect follower, and Quackity knew that. He made mistakes, he disobeyed, he never once stopped asking "Why?"

If Quackity knew him well enough by then to be destroyed by his death and disappearance, then why did he expect that making another version of Charlie would create someone perfectly obedient and mindless? Why did he see Charlie in this way when both him and the audience knew otherwise?

Then we have the issue of Charlie's dramatic shift in characterization. Because we were never shown what went on between Charlie and Dream, we have no reference for how or why this shifted Charlie's demeanor. We have no reference for his epiphany or how he "woke up."

Even if it's imperative for Charlie's realization about Q to remain a secret for a plot twist, it begs the question of why Charlie ever greeted Q at the restaurant or decided to stay with him when he knew that Quackity was "a bad person" from the get-go (something which he knew Quackity was aware of already feeling. In Charlie's only POV stream, he asks Q if he thinks of himself as a good person and Quackity replies "I don't know." It's not something Quackity needs to be told, because he knows and he struggles with those thoughts already.)

As pointed out before, Charlie has always been capable of questioning Quackity's rules and reasoning, so why not tell Quackity about how terrible he thought he was all those months ago? Why not be upfront with him, as he was about everything else? If Charlie never actually liked Quackity or anything that was happening, why would he proclaim to trust him upon first instinct?

Why would he live in denial of Quackity's mortality, as if hoping he'd stick around forever? It also seems especially out of character for him to go out of his way to physically hurt Quackity—someone who once risked his life to save his; someone who only ever wanted to protect him and trust him and give him everything he'd ever worked to earn (regardless of the means.)

There's simply not enough buildup to warrant that sort of payoff because we never got to see that change occur in Charlie.

The (hollow) Theme of Revenge

In the previous Las Nevadas episode, we were shown Quackity's gradual change for the better under Charlie's influence. Despite being his leader and mentor, it was Quackity who had the most to learn from Charlie, who questioned Q's morals and lessons in a way that Quackity had to confront. Quackity, like Tommy and Wilbur and Tubbo and many others, was taught "lessons" stemming from violence.

They were physically hurt by people who were stronger than them, who did this as a way to force them to grow. However, the things learned from this practice were traumatic and unhealthy and actively stumped their growth on their journey to being better, kinder people. It was only because Charlie opposed Quackity in a non-violent, non-confrontational manner that Quackity was more susceptible to learning and growing and doing so without closing himself off and being afraid.

He effectively learns that revenge is never worth the price in one of the most powerful scenes in Quackity's entire arc; where the two friends talk as they stand on the Needle's balcony and overlook the country. The question is asked if revenge is ever worth it and Quackity finally, after so long, answers truthfully—"No. It's not."

To finally hammer this home, Quackity loses Charlie because Purpled decides to seek revenge for a previous misdeed. He sought revenge and he succeeded. It finally rings clear, that because Quackity had acted in the same way Purpled had in the past, he is forced to see himself from another perspective—from the eyes of someone who reaps what they've sown.

He can ask himself, again, was this worth it? Quackity again says no, and doesn't seek out Purpled to repay the favor because he finally sees what Charlie had tried to tell him. This is a perfect demonstration of this theme, and I'd argue, it is the only well-executed moment regarding revenge in the entire Dream SMP storyline.

Unfortunately, this is all horribly undermined by the later development of Charlie returning and violently killing Quackity (someone who'd never wronged him further than his dishonesty and opportunism, both of which he regrets.) Quackity's selfless act of diving into danger to save Charlie is purposely ignored; repaid by a callous, out-of-character act of revenge, which serves nothing. That's not even getting into the issue of Charlie's act of revenge belonging solely to Purpled, because despite Purpled's actions being tied to Quackity, they are not Quackity's fault.

If this logic were applied appropriately in every aspect of the story, then Quackity would not be considered at fault for the Butcher Army—it would be Techno, because he "started it." Shifting the blame of the cycle of vengeance onto the person who caused the initial injustice also completely undercuts the actions and responsibilities of every person involved in sustaining a conflict. It also de-emphasizes the strength and kindness it takes for someone to forgive and be the one to end the cycle.

While Quackity's death is poetic and well-shot, it says nothing. Charlie follows the lessons he himself had questioned to be flawed, despite having free will. And if this was because of Dream's influence, we will never know because it was never shown.

To add insult to injury, this act of violence is what forces Quackity to change for the better, and give everyone who wronged him a letter of reconciliation. This destroys every other moment the Dream SMP has laid out thus far regarding its collective theme of violence; that it will never teach anyone anything good, useful, or healthy. It will only cause trauma and hurt and leave people to unlearn the good and moral code they carry with them.

Instead, the message here is that violence was actually Quackity's wake-up-call, instead of the perfectly fitting scene between Q and Charlie of the two simply... talking, as friends. Violence being Quackity's "teacher" is much less powerful and it's intensely at odds with the rest of everything established in his arc.

For the sake of spectacle and shock, we've received a message of revenge so hollow and meaningless that it manages to say Nothing At All.

Minor Issues

These have no bearing on my opinion of the stream, but I haven't seen anyone point these out yet.

During the Calamity Duo flashback, the ending of it is a smash-cut to the destruction of Las Nevadas. The destruction shown in the clip doesn't match what actually happens nearly an hour later, with the former taking place at night and containing more fire than explosion. Quackity was also never physically present at the destruction, so it's a mystery as to why that little tonal shock was included to begin with as it spoils the ending of the episode (even if it may have been obvious going in.)

Purpled's motivations for kidnapping Charlie were because he... wanted to kill him. Okay. Why not just kill him when you first found him? Why not kill him at any point on the way back to your hideout? Why did you have to kill him in a very specific location where Quackity would never see it? Wouldn't it hurt Quackity worse if you killed him around Las Nevadas where Q could find him quickly? Even if Purpled was afraid of Q being notified via chat message, he didn't have to bring Charlie all the way back to the main area to do that.

During the montage where Quackity gives letters of reconciliation to everyone, he leaves one where Wilbur had sailed away. This implies that Tommy told Quackity that Wilbur was gone. Again, yet another scene that happened off-screen that would've only benefited the audience to actually see.

Conclusion

While beautiful and well-made—as cc!Quackity's streams always are—the issues with story, pacing, music, and characterization leave this stream a disappointing sendoff for the end of Quackity's character in Volume One.

It is painful to see it end like this, as Quackity is my favorite character, second only to Tommy. That isn't to say there isn't something to like in this episode, but it is a far cry from the height of its predecessors.

I hope to see better from him in the future, if there ever is better to come.

#dream smp #dsmp #quackity #slimecicle #las nevadas #dapduo #charlie slimecicle #dreamwastaken #purpled #punz #foolish #ranboo #dsmp analysis #dsmp critical #negative #long post

[dyketubbo]

the ending of fucking. everyone dies and is exploded feels so disrespectful btw. not to the fans though it sucks for us too but i mean like as an ending for dsmp as a Whole. like are you really going to tell me quackitys lore also leads to this point. that the egg arc ends in this too. they all just.. die? loose ends forever loose?

#dsmp critical #dsmp #mask mews

[painless-innit-colourful]

so how is it in both cases they nailed the build-up and then by comparison the ending was like stepping on a banana peel.

#dream smp #dsmp critical #hello first time i've ever used that tag #crim speaks #tommyinnit #wilbur soot #to clarify: i do not hate those streams. i enjoyed the feelings they put me through #i am however baffled as to how they could nail it on the build-up streams then create finales that left so many people so unsatisfied #yes yes art is subjective #but while i'd change both finales Drastically if i could... for inconsolable differences and the friday stream i have no notes #(that's the crimeboys stream with the beach party if you're not sad like me and remember all their names) #like. id was incredible. i will never experience those emotions again. and friday was just perfect. everything i could've wanted #great setup for the next one and then...?? #it appears to be 1am and i am airing my grievances. this is what happens when i get sick

[shootingthe-stars]

just got the news about Today. my only thoughts on it are thank you quackity for knowing how to write a good character arc and u know what maybe c!wilbur’s ending wasn’t so bad after all

#dsmp #c!wilbur #dsmp critical #wilbur #tntduo #c!quackity #quackity #like what do you MEAN the abuse victim apologized to his abuser #what do you MEAN they BLEW UP THE SERVER #what do you FUCKING MEAN NOTHING ENDED UP MATTERING

[bootleg-b0i]

In light of the dsmp member allegations, I have some thoughts:

1) Whatever feelings you may have at this time, believe victims firstly. I know it can be hard when there’s so much coming out at once, but the only way we make things better for victims is by believing them and taking this all seriously. It’s unfortunate to hear these things about people you supported, but I do think power corrupts, and the way to combat that is accountability. These victims deserve peace and closure.

2) Personally, I rescind any and all support I ever gave to dsmp members. For the sake of transparency, the only members I’ve still been watching are Tommy, and I occasionally engage with Ranboo’s social media. Neither of them have done anything wrong, as far as we know, and no allegations have been made about them. However, this is not a public endorsement of them and if any such allegations are made about them, rest assured that I will stop watching them as well.

3) I have, for a long while now, been inactive on Twitter and have no plans of reengaging with it. I think the management overall there has rendered it unusable for anything other than unethical paid promos and ai bots. My mental health has improved immensely since distancing myself from it, even though I was never that active to begin with. I’m leaving my account up for the sake of friends I have made and content I want preserved, but this may change. As of now, my primary contact points outside of Twitch are gonna be here (Tumblr) and my Discord, only. Yes, it slows down what news I have access to, but I still encourage others to do the same.

This will likely be the last thing I say about dsmp. I have old posts on here about it that I don’t see the point in deleting because it was important to me at the time and good outlet. But, I wanted to make a statement explaining my current stance so there’s no misunderstanding. What it was was good, but it’s been long gone for a while now. I no longer have any desire to align myself with that community and these creators.

#dsmp #streaming #streamer #twitch #mcyt #twitter #allegations #wilbur situation #punz #georgenotfound #wilbur soot #dsmp critical

[blissfali]

Ok ik the ending is obviously an important thing to talk about but can we talk about how fucking stupid the revivebook became/has become? Like it can revive people and it created limbo okay thats cool!!! Like a simple idea, overpowered but in the sense that like. it feels balanced Enough. but then what it can mind control??? Like What. what are we talking about. And then IT gAve cdream access to the end??? What the fuck does that have to do with any of this??? Like i feel like im missing shit too but like Thats dumb. You see how dumb that is right? Its overpowered in the un-fun way. When you have an item that basically lets you do EVERYTHING Why then call it a revive book? Whats the fucking point of having it? Thats so god damn boring like Please what kind of 6th grade weird girl shit is this but instead it was written by grown ass adults Have you everrr read a story Good god its like a mary sue but if the mary sue was an inanimate object with god powers

#dsmp #dsmp critical #dsmp neg

[proudfreakmetarusonniku]

like there’s a reason c!dream's lore outside of c!tommy crashed and burned. and i mean it’s good for me bc it means i get to make c!prime stuff but like mans was written by tommyinnit and it shows like the only time we got consistent c!dream content was when tommy wrote him he deserves custody.

#like. literally every other piece of lore just petered out #And tommy had to drag dream kicking and screaming to do their fucking finale #Which sucked dick and balls for Obvious Reasons but it also shows dude don’t give a shit #Dream neg #dsmp critical

[wilbug]

cdream apologists cannot be real

#sunrise.txt #cdream critical #dsmp critical