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dickwheelie · 10 months
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imperiuswrecked · 8 months
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As a person who really loves Villain characters you don't know how good it is to find a character who's so well rounded, sympathetic, and truly villainous. I love to hate him. I understand him. I still hate him. It's fascinating.
The writing never makes you feel like you have to take their side. It goes "wow! this dude did fucked up things and he believes he's 100% right because his child died, or he feels he isn't at fault because of circumstances beyond his control or he views himself as a benevolent figure who should be appreciated and worshipped but actually he's monstrous and delusional and very wrong. Every evil action he took is a conscious choice he made, and that's what makes him a villain. "
Maybe because there's been a rapid rise of the "Sympathetic Villain" writing in media lately. Where the writing tries to get people to see both sides of the conflict and muddy the waters. Coupled with the fact that these days the heroes aren't all perfect and truly noble all the time.
What I feel this change in media brings is a centralized view to every character. If no one's truly villainous or heroic and the narrative doesn't enforce that in the writing then all we're left with is half assed anti-hero or anti-villain writing. Which is very different than a villain character having shades of gray while still being a villain. And vice versa for the hero character.
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theunemployedrogue · 3 years
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DS9 "Waltz": Dukat & Sisko camping trip round 2. Insert 'if I had a nickel for every time this happened I'd only have 2 nickels but it's still weird it happened twice' meme or w/e lol.
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jimkerk · 6 years
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julian prioritising lives above literally everything else, his whole demeanour hardening as soon as anyone suggests anything else has value, is honestly so important to me
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gayspock · 3 years
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(watches S6E11 of DS9, Waltz) ah! after episodes like this, i do like to have a forray into the tag. see what the girls are up to. (sees Dukat/Sisko posts regarding it) oh, my goodness me! haha, you guys are so silly. haha. brb i gotta ehrm. i gotta go do something. (walks into the darkness and never comes back)
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qwertyfingers · 3 years
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Not to be too forward but please drop your TNG watch order.
okay tng is. complex. here’s how i’d do it I think. I’m jumping about a lot, and I’m also struggling to remember a lot of it because my first watch was 7 years ago and my rewatch w friends we just did Sherlock Holmes and then went straight into chronological order. so this is like, combo of a handful of eps I remember being plot important and just stuff that makes me laugh.
Elementary, My Dear Data (S2E3) and Ship In A Bottle (S6E12). a) introduces you perfectly to the concept of holodeck episodes, which will be important later b) DaForge married gay energy off the charts c) Picard is really fun. the only failing of this as a start is the tragic lack of Guinan
ALL of the Q eps. Speedrun the Qcard nonsense and get a lot of the overall show plot
Encounter at Farpoint (S1E1 and S1E2)
Hide and Q (S1E10) - unnervingly babyfaced Riker. you could skip this one but it lays some good basis for who the Q continuum are, but it’s kind of fun
Q Who (S2E16) - borg introduction! absolute must watch. The insanity of ‘to learn about you is frankly provocative… but you’re next of kin to chaos’ as a line alone, let alone the voice Patrick Stewart gives to it. Iconic episode.
Deja Q (S3E13) - Q getting turned into a human as punishment for being a naughty boy. V funny, must watch
QPid (S4E20 babeyyyyy) - MUST WATCH one of thee funniest episodes and experiencing the QCard speedrun from farpoint to qpid is a very special kind of brainworms
True Q (S6E6) - this one is skippable tbh, but it is pretty fond and I’m personally fond of running a full Q supercut
Tapestry (S6E15) - this one isn’t as fun as most Q eps but it is VERY TNG-ish and therefore a must watch. If you’ll forgive the pun, it really gets at the heart of Picard’s character
All Good Things (S7E25 and S7E26) - as with most Star Trek finales it’s not the best. You don’t have to watch this here but it can be a fun bookend for the Q speedrun
You could also go watch DS9’s Q-Less (S1E6) if you’d like to see Q get punched in the face, it’s really very satisfying
You kind of have to watch The Best of Both Worlds (S3E26 and S4E1). If you’ve seen TNG before, you don’t need to worry about when you watch it. If you haven’t seen any TNG yet, watch it here.
Darmok (S5E2) - THEE most star trek of all star trek’s. hmu if you ever want me to rant about Darmok I have a whole badly-structured personal essay about it ready to go at all times
Disaster (S5E5) - Geordi and Crusher teamup is really fun, and ‘executive officer in charge of radishes’ is the best line in all 7 seasons of TNG
Schisms (S6E5) - you could just watch from the opening until Data’s poetry recital ngl. The ep is decent and I’d personally watch it all but this ep is mostly about Data’s poetry.
Sub Rosa (S7E14) - Crusher fucks a ghost. iconic behaviour
Dixon Hill eps! They’re fun and silly and much like watching TOS’ A Piece of The Action
The Big Goodbye (S1E12)
Manhunt (S2E19) - Lwxana. I’d do anything for Lwxana
Clues (S4E14) - Guinan as Gloria is so much fun I love her and she should have got a full episode!!!!!
The Measure of a Man (S2E9) - important Federation and Data lore. Very emotional.
Yesterday’s Enterprise (S3E16) - Tasha’a back!!!!!!!! Just a very cool ep imo
Hero Worship (S5E11) - Extremely good Data ep, good content about Federation attitude to mental illness
Datalore (S1E12) - another important Data ep, and Lore is laways fun
The Offspring (S3E16) - Data wants to be a dad!!!
I, Borg (S5 E23) - HUGH!!! IT’S ALL ABOUT HUGH!!!!!!!!! (I like to watch this right after The Offspring because it’s direct parallels of geordi and data just wanting to take care of people)
Brothers (S4E18) - more Data (And Lore) content
Descent (S6E26 and S7E1) - not required watching, but Lore is fun and evil
Fistful of Datas (S6E7) - EXTREMELY SILLY GOOD FUN ALLROUND. CAN NEVER GO WRONG W ACOWBOY EP
Sarek (S3E23) - I can’t remember the plot I just know Sarek shows up in a lavender robe and has mad chemistry with Picard. I’m  pretty sure they mind meld really hard??? Lord help me the old men you put on this spaceship to do politics are exploring eachothers’ minds in the most intimate manner possible <3
Unification (S5E7 and S5E8) - Spock attempts to re-unify Romulus and Vulcan. Iconic 2-parter, but definitely the kind of episode that benefits from watching with a friend so you can add commentary
if you like Romulan episodes you could watch the full Sela arc before this one (The Mind’s Eye S4E24, Redemption S4E26/S5E1, Unification)
Face of The Enemy (S6E14) - I can’t remember the entire plot but I’m pretty sure it was good and I love a good Romulan ep
The Host (S4E23) - Trill introduction!!!! So good.
The Game (S5E6) - profoundly stupid but worth it for how funny the graphics for the game are
Cause and Effect (S5E18) - just a pretty cool one
Time’s Arrow (S5E26 and S6E1) - One of TNG’s strongest plots imo
The Inner Light (S5E25) - another banger plot; Picard gets hit by a psychic probe and lives an entire life in a history that has already happened. there’s a really good Spones fic based on this episode and I could read an au like this for any ship I swear
Relics (S6E4) - Scotty!!!! It’s fun
Chain of Command (S6E10 and S6E11) - another one of TNG’s strongest plots. The origin of the ‘there are FOUR lights’ meme.
Birthright (S6E16 and S6E17) - this is an infamous double parter but all I actually remember is Julian Bashir appearing and meeting Data
Ensign Ro’s intro ep Ensign Ro (S5E03) i LOVE her
The Next Phase (S5E24) - cool ep where Ro and Geordi get stuck out of phase and are invisible from the crew, pretty fun
and the end of her arc with Preemptive Strike (S7E24)
I personally love Barclay and just choose to live in a universe where the misogyny wasn’t happening and he was just a weird little man, but if he bothers you, you can skip his arc. Don’t skip Genesis tho it’s good
Hollow Pursuits (S3E21)
The Nth Degree (S4E19)
Realm of Fear (S6E2)
Genesis (S7E19) - perfectly batshit star trek fake science. I love it
Masks (S7E17) - extremely silly and therefore fantastic
after this point I’d go back and watch in order all the way through, or look up a watch order for eps that are actually important plot-wise :’) 
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drewcosten · 4 years
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If you’re new to Star Trek and want to watch every episode and film but don’t know where to start, here’s what I consider to be the best viewing order (the legend of series names is at the end of the post, and the years in which each section primarily takes place will be listed at the end of each line):
TOS Pilot The Cage (First Pilot, 2254)
TOS S1E3 Where No Man Has Gone Before (Second Pilot, 2265)
TOS S1E1-2 The Man Trap to Charlie X (2266)
TOS S1E4-S3E24 The Naked Time to Turnabout Intruder (series finale, 2266 - 2269)
TAS S1E1-S2E6 Beyond the Farthest Star to The Counter-Clock Incident (series finale, 2269 - 2270)
Star Trek 1: The Motion Picture (2273)
Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan (2285)
Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock (2285)
Star Trek 4: The Voyage Home (2286)
Star Trek 5: The Final Frontier (2287)
Star Trek 6: The Undiscovered Country (2293)
TNG S1E1-S6E11 Encounter at Farpoint part 1 to Chain of Command part 2 (2364 - 2369)
DS9 S1E1-4 Emissary part 1 to A Man Alone (2369)
TNG S6E12-15 Ship in a Bottle to Tapestry (2369)
DS9 S1E5-8 Babel to Dax (2369)
TNG S6E16-S7E1 Birthright part 1 to Descent part 2 (2369 - 2370)
DS9 S1E9-20 The Passenger to In the Hands of the Prophets (2369)
TNG S7E2-13 Liaisons to Homeward (2370)
DS9 S2E1-12 The Homecoming to The Alternate (2370)
TNG S7E14-20 Sub Rosa to Journey’s End (2370)
DS9 S2E13-21 Armageddon Game to The Maquis part 2 (2370)
TNG S7E21-26 Firstborn to All Good Things part 2 (series finale, 2370)
DS9 S2E22-S3E8 The Wire to Meridian (2370 - 2371)
Star Trek 7: Generations (set in both 2293 and 2371)
DS9 S3E9-12 Defiant to Past Tense part 2 (2371)
VOY S1E1-16 Caretaker part 1 to Learning Curve (2371)
DS9 S3E13-26 Life Support to The Adversary (2371)
VOY S2E1-12 The 37s to Resistance (2371 - 2372)
DS9 S4E1-10 The Way of the Warrior part 1 to Our Man Bashir (2372)
VOY S2E13-S3E1 Prototype to Basics part 2 (2372 - 2373)
DS9 S4E11-26 Homefront to Broken Link (2372)
VOY S3E2-16 Flashback to Blood Fever (2373)
DS9 S5E1-13 Apocalypse Rising to For the Uniform (2373)
Star Trek 8: First Contact (2373)
VOY S3E17-S4E2 Unity to The Gift (2373 - 2374)
DS9 S5E14-26 In Purgatory’s Shadow to Call to Arms (2373)
VOY S4E3-9 Day of Honor to Year of Hell part 2 (2374)
DS9 S6E1-11 A Time to Stand to Waltz (2374)
VOY S4E10-26 Random Thoughts to Hope and Fear (2374)
DS9 S6E12-S7E9 Who Mourns for Morn? to Covenant (2374 - 2375)
VOY S5E1-9 Night to Thirty Days (2375)
Star Trek 9: Insurrection (2375)
DS9 S7E10-26 It’s Only a Paper Moon to What You Leave Behind (series finale, 2375)
VOY S5E10-S7E26 Counterpoint to Endgame part 2 (series finale, 2375 - 2378)
Star Trek 10: Nemesis (2379)
ENT S1E1-S4E22 Broken Bow part 1 to These Are the Voyages… (series finale, 2151 - 2155, final episode set in both 2161 and 2370)
Star Trek (2009 movie, set mostly in 2258 in an alternate timeline known as the Kelvin timeline)
Star Trek Into Darkness (2nd movie in the Kelvin timeline, in 2259)
Star Trek Beyond (3rd movie in the Kelvin timeline, in 2263)
DIS S1E1-15 The Vulcan Hello to Will You Take My Hand? (2256 - 2257, back in the Prime timeline)
ST S1E1-4 Runaway to The Escape Artist (set in different years between 2239 and an unknown date in the distant future)
DIS S2E1-14 Brother to Such Sweet Sorrow part 2 (2257 - 2258)
ST S2E1-6 Q&A to Children of Mars (likely series finale, set in different, mostly unconfirmed, years between the early 2230s and 2385)
PIC S1E1-10 Remembrance to Et in Arcadia Ego part 2 (2399)
DIS S3E1-13 That Hope Is You part 1 to That Hope Is You part 2 (3188 - 3189)
LD S1E1-S2E10 Second Contact to First First Contact (2380 - 2381)
PRO S1E1-10 Lost & Found part 1 to A Moral Star part 2 (2383 - 2384)
DIS S4E1-13 Kobayashi Maru to Coming Home (3190)
PIC S2E1-10 The Star Gazer to Farewell (2401)
SNW S1E1-10 Strange New Worlds to A Quality of Mercy (2259)
LD S3E1-10 Grounded to The Stars at Night (2381)
PRO S1E11-20 Asylum to Supernova part 2 (2384)
PIC S3E1-10 The Next Generation to The Last Generation (series finale, 2401)
SNW S2E1-10 The Broken Circle to Hegemony (2259)
LD S4E1-10 Twovix to Old Friends, New Planets (2381)
DIS S5E1-10 Red Directive to Life, Itself (series finale, 3191)
Legend:
TOS: The Original Series
TAS: The Animated Series
TNG: The Next Generation
DS9: Deep Space Nine
VOY: Voyager
ENT: Enterprise
DIS: Discovery
ST: Short Treks
PIC: Picard
LD: Lower Decks
PRO: Prodigy
SNW: Strange New Worlds
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verdigrisprowl · 6 years
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Dec 18 Odothon Part 7 - DS9 S6E5 S6E6  S6E11 S7E6
Their star is back in his right mind, to Prowl’s great relief; and Prowl hopes he stays there. But he’s still concerned. He fell so easily the first time.
There is a possibility that said star’s home planet might die off of natural causes, leaving him the only person to rule their empire. Intriguing possibility. Could be utilized on Cybertron. Prowl doubts the moral Soundwave wants him to take away from the show is “kill all other Cybertronians and assume their role in the galactic community,” so he’s waiting to see how this turns out.
Today FakeProwl 5:03 pm *ping ping can he come over plz* ItsyBitsySpyers 5:03 pm *Well, that answers the question of whether or not Prowl still trusts him enough to come over and watch.*
*Come on in. He's already settled and waiting.* FakeProwl 5:04 pm *he appears straight on the couch this time.* Ready. ItsyBitsySpyers 5:04 pm {{S6E5 Favor The Bold}} FakeProwl 5:04 pm *He lost sleep over Odo. He needs to know.* ItsyBitsySpyers 5:06 pm *Greeting ping and visor off.* FakeProwl 5:06 pm *Greeting/permission ping.* FakeProwl 5:08 pm ... Even if they do retake DS9 as soon as possible... I'm concerned that by the time they do, Odo will already be working for the other side. FakeProwl 5:08 pm *"concerned," he says, oh so calmly.* ItsyBitsySpyers 5:10 pm [[Retaking it will be difficult without inside help. The Founder was in Odo's room when Kira explained her plans, and she is not a forgiving figure.]] FakeProwl 5:11 pm No, she's not. FakeProwl 5:12 pm ... Is this an intervention or a retaliation? Well. It wasn't a successful one, whatever it is. ItsyBitsySpyers 5:13 pm [[Unfortunately not.]] FakeProwl 5:16 pm *Grimaces.* Somebody needs to break down that door. He's doing nothing but interacting with a single person who's trying to manipulate him. ItsyBitsySpyers 5:17 pm [[And succeeding. Rapidly.]] FakeProwl 5:17 pm Extremely. It's a—a rapid addiction. ItsyBitsySpyers 5:19 pm *Soundwave tries not to huff too harshly at the "gods don't make mistakes" line.*
*He nods at Prowl's assessment.* [[It reminds him of someone he knows, in an odd way.]] FakeProwl 5:20 pm Oh? ItsyBitsySpyers 5:23 pm [[Mm, yes. A somewhat promising mech manipulated into an addiction to someone who now refuses to acknowledge their existence. He has seen them drop into despair in that being's absence. It is unpleasant to watch.]] FakeProwl 5:24 pm ... To what end? Were they someone's enemy? ItsyBitsySpyers 5:26 pm [[Nothing so important. He doesn't know for certain, but he believes the one who is now absent simply wanted a toy. Something to break and discard and laugh at when it limped back.]] [[That part is probably irrelevant to Odo's situation. The utter distraction and addiction is what reminded him of it.]] FakeProwl 5:28 pm ... Disgusting. The emotional addict—anyone I might know? ItsyBitsySpyers 5:29 pm [[Not that he knows of.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 5:31 pm [[Well done with the message.]] FakeProwl 5:32 pm Hm. I'd try to find a therapist for them, but all the ones I know are either terrible or retired. ItsyBitsySpyers 5:32 pm [[As are the ones he's passed by.]] FakeProwl 5:33 pm ... Pity. FakeProwl 5:34 pm Well. If their manipulator comes back to reclaim their toy—it might be nice if you blocked their attempts at contact. FakeProwl 5:35 pm *mumbles* What blatant misuse of his troops. FakeProwl 5:37 pm ... Well, that's not going to help their cause. ItsyBitsySpyers 5:37 pm [[He's made past efforts.]] *Folds his hands.* [[But yes. He'll try again, if he hears of it in time.]] FakeProwl 5:38 pm Kira should have let Dumber drag Ziyal away, Ziyal could have made an excellent spy with a direct link to Gold Docket. ItsyBitsySpyers 5:38 pm *Soundwave trembles a bit. Dumber. Oh, that's lovely. He'll let that one stand.* [[Her temper does get the better of her at times.]] FakeProwl 5:39 pm It certainly does. ItsyBitsySpyers 5:40 pm [[That said, he thinks Ziyal is too naive to do well as a spy.]] FakeProwl 5:40 pm True, but I think she's learning better. ItsyBitsySpyers 5:41 pm (("my pistons may be rusty but my hearing is sharp as ever")) [[It *would* be helpful.]] FakeProwl 5:44 pm Odo's still questioning her a little bit. ItsyBitsySpyers 5:45 pm *Nod nod.* FakeProwl 5:47 pm *Hope for the best, expect the worst. Prowl's afraid he would get along very well with Garak.* ItsyBitsySpyers 5:48 pm *What's there to be afraid of?* FakeProwl 5:48 pm *He seems /absolutely exhausting/ to be around.* ItsyBitsySpyers 5:53 pm ((u good?)) FakeProwl 5:54 pm ((im good)) ItsyBitsySpyers 5:54 pm {{S6E6 Sacrifice of Angels}} ItsyBitsySpyers 5:57 pm *Oh, he doesn't know. He could stand the occasional lunch now and then with someone with his own interests, as long as they didn't try to steal his position.* ItsyBitsySpyers 6:02 pm [[This despite his original attempt to kill her upon recovery from the planet she and her mother were stranded on.]] FakeProwl 6:02 pm As though "holding them for questioning" isn't the most transparent euphemism imaginable. Did he? Hmph. Unsurprising. ItsyBitsySpyers 6:04 pm [[Of course he did. He already had a family, and the former Prefect mating with a Bajoran? Two social strikes. She is close to Kira because Kira protected her.]] FakeProwl 6:07 pm *immediately tenses up at the word "anhedonic."* *deliberately forces avatar back to neutral.* ItsyBitsySpyers 6:08 pm *Corner of the optics glance and back to the screen. He's not going to pry, but he will note.* FakeProwl 6:10 pm He really does believe he was protecting and liberating Bajor. *shakes head.* I wasn't sure if that was something he told himself or something he told other people. But if he's sharing the same story with his allies... FakeProwl 6:12 pm ... Usually I would be intensely concerned about someone who allows love for a single person to completely dominate his personality, life, morality, and decisions. I'll make an exception for Odo because it might be the only thing left that can drag him out of this. ItsyBitsySpyers 6:14 pm *Wonders if Prowl is intensely concerned about Tarantulas. Wonders if he should ask that. Decides it's not his place to poke at that and nods again.*
[[Taking what they can get, at this point.]] FakeProwl 6:16 pm ... That was a very elaborate distraction. ItsyBitsySpyers 6:17 pm [[In a bad way or an impressive way?]] FakeProwl 6:17 pm In an unexpected and thus amusing way. ItsyBitsySpyers 6:18 pm [[Hm. Quark hasn't killed anyone before, he thinks.]] FakeProwl 6:18 pm I think you're right. FakeProwl 6:19 pm Please, PLEASE go help them. This is your shot, Odo. FakeProwl 6:21 pm ... If the Link is "paradise," that's all the more reason not to be part of it. Why waste time in a place that's already perfect when there's so much on the outside that still needs help? ItsyBitsySpyers 6:22 pm *Another glance.* [[You never consider retiring some day?]] *And there go all the mines.* FakeProwl 6:23 pm Doing what? ItsyBitsySpyers 6:24 pm [[He doesn't know. He thought you would, if you ever consider it.]] FakeProwl 6:24 pm No, I mean—I never considered doing /what/ someday? ItsyBitsySpyers 6:25 pm [[The idea of finding some place perfect to settle and be comfortable with all that you want at hand in your waning vorns. It is a fascinating alien concept. He thought you would be familiar with it from your travels.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 6:27 pm [[He tried it, himself. It turned out he wasn't very good at it.]] *Huff.* [[Now he is here.]] FakeProwl 6:27 pm ... Vaguely. Distantly. It's a concept that applies only to things that can die of old age. FakeProwl 6:30 pm ((i love how the Founder just constantly gives off the vibe of a slightly cross grandma)) ItsyBitsySpyers 6:31 pm *Nod. It was a tempting thing, but the thought of having nothing but leisure time for millions and millions of years... no, thank you.*
[[That was part of his reasoning for stopping. [][][]Why waste time - when there's so much on the outside that still needs help?[][][] ]] FakeProwl 6:31 pm *Nods at screen.* Useful gods they've got next door. ItsyBitsySpyers 6:32 pm [[Quite.]] FakeProwl 6:37 pm ... This probably isn't the message I should be taking from this, but what I'm getting is "give Megatron an offspring; kill it in front of him. Prevent a lot of unnecessary conquering and genocide." FakeProwl 6:38 pm ... Although if we're going to be traveling into the past to give and take a sparkling from him it might be easier to just kill him outright. ItsyBitsySpyers 6:39 pm [[Perhaps it isn't. He is not interested in that solution, himself.]] *Something of a silence.* [[But he has watched for timelines that could tell him if it is true.]] [[That is not the end of the story, though. We must summarize a few things and carry on.]] FakeProwl 6:40 pm No, it didn't seem like the end. Go on, then. ItsyBitsySpyers 6:41 pm [[Damar deeply regrets murdering Ziyal. He replaces Dukat, but cannot stand up to the Dominion's leaders and swiftly becomes the puppet connecting them to the Cardassian people.]]
[[Bashir and others believe surrendering now and rebelling later will involve less loss of life than continuing the war. The proposal's denied and Bashir's persuaded to change his mind. The others try to give classified information to the enemy, but he stops them, insisting that the course of history may yet be changed in their favor.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 6:42 pm {{S6E11 Waltz}} FakeProwl 6:43 pm All right. Let's go. FakeProwl 6:47 pm ... Hm. Surrendering now /will/ lead to less /immediate/ loss of life, at the cost of sustained gradual loss of life that might soon total far greater than would have been lost during the war. And it's much harder to liberate a tightly-held colony than it is to maintain an empire's freedom. ((i love it when actors do the "pretend the ship's been hit" jiggle dance)) ItsyBitsySpyers 6:48 pm ((tbh so do i, thinking of them trying to do that with the straight faces and all)) FakeProwl 6:49 pm ((dukat's was impressive, with the shaky knees)) FakeProwl 6:51 pm Kira and Odo are walking around together again. Is their relationship recovering or is it only business? ItsyBitsySpyers 6:52 pm ((agreed!))
[[Mm. One of the tapes he skipped took Bashir and Dax to an alien planet. The entire population was infected with an engineered fatal plague the Dominion unleashed on them for resisting. There were no possible cures; all infected were doomed. Bashir did manage to make a vaccine that would protect the offspring they produced, but that was all.]]
[[With that in mind... your second comment, the one regarding liberating tightly-held colonies? He is inclined to agree.]] [[Their relationship is slowly recovering, and will continue to do so for the next half a year.]]
[[And now: Sisko wakes up in a cavern. His only company is Dukat, who's hallucinating familiar figures. Dukat lies about the broken signal transmitter, insists they're "old friends", and repeatedly claims to be a decent person. Things are about to come to a head.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 7:01 pm ((it doesn't come across well in that delivery but the line is intended to be sarcasm)) FakeProwl 7:02 pm ... All this talk about inherent superiority, about how the victims should have accepted their inferiority, about how he should have killed them. Gold Docket sounds exactly like... *Grimace.* I was going to say a Decepticon. But, no. He just sounds like a Cybertronian. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:03 pm *Helm tilt.* [[Autobots too?]] FakeProwl 7:05 pm The Autobots were too busy stopping the Decepticons to do anything else. And—for now, at least, while the memories are fresh—I think there are too many of them who are determined to /not/ be like the Decepticons to do anything they did. But, the memories are going to fade. And the proud, glorious Cybertronian people are going to remember that they're /inherently better/ than all the foolish, short-lived little organics of the galaxy. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:07 pm [[Unless they're taught otherwise.]] FakeProwl 7:07 pm *SNORT.* Yeah. Sure. *Nods at the screen.* Who do you think could teach Gold Docket otherwise? We're a whole race of Gold Dockets. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:08 pm [[Us as well?]] FakeProwl 7:08 pm Define the scope of "us." ItsyBitsySpyers 7:09 pm [[There are only two of us on this couch.]] FakeProwl 7:10 pm I don't know enough about how you feel about organics. I'd like to think /I've/ learned better. But I don't know what I'm still carrying. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:11 pm [[Do you think yourself capable of continuing to learn? Of wanting to learn?]] FakeProwl 7:12 pm I try to be. FakeProwl 7:14 pm Are you going to try to tell me that other Cybertronians are capable of learning, too? Don't bother—you and I both know full well that most don't WANT to. When they do learn a lesson it's an accident and a great shock to everyone involved. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:24 pm [[We are both good at arranging accidents.]] *Quiet puff.* [[He does think we can become better as a whole than we have been. You know who he was, and you yourself have arrived here despite starting out in the depths of Functionism and mechanical superiority.]]
[[He doesn't know how to reach others yet, but he is looking, and he will keep looking. If you never feel as though it's possible for you to do that, then... that is your mind. But it does not change his.]] FakeProwl 7:24 pm *... Prowl made a mistake by saying anything. The show stopped.* ItsyBitsySpyers 7:24 pm *He didn't make a mistake; there's just summaries coming and they were on a topic.* FakeProwl 7:26 pm ... Mm. *Gestures at screen.* Let's just... go on. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:26 pm [[As you wish. He must explain passing events we do not have time to cover, though.]] FakeProwl 7:26 pm *Nods.* ItsyBitsySpyers 7:27 pm [[General events.]]
[[More crew members face unpleasant wartime scenarios. Chief O'Brien chooses between completing an infiltration mission and saving the enemy friend he made. Worf is faced with winning a battle or saving his spouse. Kira, who despises collaborators, learns that her mother became one of Dukat's "companions" to save her family. Bashir's life is turned upside-down by an undocumented Federation spy organization, Section 31. Sisko and Garak conspire and lie to drag the Romulans into joining the war, as you may recall once seeing.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 7:29 pm [[During a lull, a self-aware hologram musician advises Odo on his interest in Kira and helps him gain confidence. Odo confesses his feelings to what he thinks is a hologram of Kira and they enter a relationship when the truth is revealed.]] FakeProwl 7:29 pm ... I don't recall seeing something like that, but I'll take your word for it. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:31 pm [[...No, you weren't there, were you? The others were. That's right. Hmm. He'll have to send you that some time.]] [[Never mind. You know now.]] FakeProwl 7:31 pm Indeed. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:32 pm [[He apologizes. He's still somewhat weary from the weekend, and movie nights do blend now and then if he isn't specifically reviewing the details.]]
[[Lastly, Sisko is forced to fight pah-wraiths - enemies of the wormhole aliens - even though it may kill him and his son. Jealous of his greater faith and the gods' attention to him, Kai Winn ruins his victory under the guise of saving them. Sisko and his son live, but the pah-wraiths escape.]] ((*casually blames muse's DJing for the mun's error*)) [[Now we may continue.]] FakeProwl 7:34 pm ((blaming your own mistakes on your muse is Good Writing.)) ItsyBitsySpyers 7:35 pm {{S7E6 Treachery, Faith, and the Great River}} FakeProwl 7:38 pm ... I don't trust this defection. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:39 pm [[The Vorta *have* historically been slippery and sneaky.]] FakeProwl 7:40 pm Indeed. ((WAIT THAT'S JEFFREY COMBS)) ((I DIDN'T REALIZE. BUT I CAN HEAR IT NOW)) ItsyBitsySpyers 7:40 pm ((LMAO YES that's why i've been making jokes about ratchet)) FakeProwl 7:41 pm ((AND NOW I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO STOP HEARING PRISSY RATCHET)) ItsyBitsySpyers 7:42 pm (( 😄 )) FakeProwl 7:42 pm It is true that he's culturally and perhaps genetically altered to view Odo as a god. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:44 pm *Nod.* [[Quick way to ensure loyalty.]] FakeProwl 7:44 pm But the other Founders may still have convinced him to regard Odo as a fallen god, and thus to spy on him. ... But, I can be convinced. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:45 pm [[Heh.]] FakeProwl 7:47 pm ... He's saying all the right things. Live in peace with the solids, et cetera. And that's suspicious. FakeProwl 7:50 pm I hope he's sincere, though. He could be a great asset. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:51 pm [[One of the best they could ask for.]] FakeProwl 7:54 pm Well, he's already taught the Federation the weak point of a Jem'Hadar ship. ItsyBitsySpyers 7:55 pm [[If he *was* a planted spy, letting him talk about things like that would be a serious error in judgment.]] FakeProwl 7:56 pm Indeed. ((oh my god. that's the worst way i've ever seen a pizza be eaten.)) ItsyBitsySpyers 7:57 pm ((it's adorable tho)) FakeProwl 7:58 pm ((it is)) FakeProwl 8:01 pm *"You have an opportunity to rectify the mistakes your people have made." Sits up and leans forward.* *An intriguing possibility. ... But one that requires the rest of the race to die off first.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:05 pm *May he never have to hide in an ice blob.* FakeProwl 8:09 pm ... Time for the regular movie night, isn't it? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:10 pm [[Yes. But he is available tomorrow night. We can do our best to wrap it up then.]] FakeProwl 8:10 pm I don't suppose we can convince the regular moviegoers to watch the amazing adventures of Odo? *wry smile* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:11 pm [[Not without as much context as he's given you. Though he might be convinced to play more of these tales in general, soon.]] [[For now, he must have a few moments to prepare. You're welcome to explore outside, if you would like to see the canyon while he is busy.]] FakeProwl 8:13 pm If you don't need my help, I'll wait here. *He'll supervise.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:13 pm [[Very well.]]
*And Soundwave will set about doing just that.*
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