Thank you for being the only reasonable person I've seen in this godsforsaken fandom
I think a lot of people are reasonably upset, but are taking a somewhat harmful approach to making things better.
It's difficult to see a show with such openly queer characters and not your own demographic (poc, disabled, women). They think that they should have a place there too, which they should! But you have to consider situations in part of a bigger picture of where we're at as a society.
Right now, the queer community has a lot of attention, and it's easier for pretty much all people to take a walk in their shoes. "I'm a man who loves women, you're a woman who loves women. Well, the only thing that's different is who exactly you love, but you still love, so I don't have a hard time imagining your circumstances."
And while poc have been crying out for attention for years now, most notably in 2020 with the BLM movement, it's much harder for a white man to imagine the experience of a black woman. And considering that if you do it wrong you're canceled, it's easy to see why people shy away from it. People say, "Oh, it's just a person! Act normal!", and yes that is true, but the white man may still accidentally perpetrate a stereotype. And then he's yelled at for not doing research first. It's a cycle that people can get stuck in.
As for physically disabled people, depictions of them are so stigmatized in media at this point that it's hard to know right from wrong. There are going to be mistakes made. That doesn't make it totally okay, but progress is a process. Disabled people have been silenced for a very long time, and they deserve a hell of a lot better. But if we just tell the Council to include them, how are the Council to know exactly what that looks like? We need to give them ideas, we have to guide them.
And as for women, yeah, there's definitely a lot to be desired. Frankly, they're a bunch of white guys; it's bound to happen. What we can do is clamor for more women who aren't only milfs. Yes, we love them, but regular, strong ladies like Jay are needed all throughout the campaigns. Give Jay some love. She's amazing. Condi does great with her.
The JRWI community has the unique position of being able to actually influence the creators. While Disney artists and writers are hidden away behind a big corporation and continue to pump out the same white, straight, cisgendered characters, we have one on one contact with the Council.
Tell me: if you went up to a Disney executive and screamed at them to include a black ambiguously bisexual or lesbian woman in one of their movies, do you think that would help the issue? No, they wouldn't care. They'd just say you're trying to brainwash their children again.
Meanwhile, the Council are a small group of four white, mostly cisgendered and straight men. And yet, they've included gay, lesbian, bisexual, nonbinary, unlabeled, asexual, transgender, and black people! That's awesome! We should be celebrating the fact that this podcast even exists! It's incredible.
Don't scream at them. That's counter-productive. Have civil conversations, encourage them to do more, show them what representation should look like while giving them room to be creative with it. Tell them what they do wrong and then point them kindly in the right direction.
I don't want this community to kill the podcast. I don't want all of this negativity to force Grizzly to leave - and I think it could get to that point if things continue the way they do.
Art is the best way to influence the Council. Draw the pcs with mobility aids! Give the poc characters love and attention, expand on hcs. Make ocs that showcase aspects of these lesser-represented communities. There are so many things you can do.
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Incoming rant:
I sincerely wish people would leave Neil the FUCK alone with their ill-informed questions and biases and accusations about The Sandman.
He owes you nothing. He is a saint for answering so kindly, if at all, cause I probably wouldn't have. He does not need to justify or explain anything about his work but does anyway outta the goodness of his heart! He is a treasure of a human being.
Be kind to creators, please. Some of you treat writers, artists, actors, singers etc. like your own personal performing monkeys... Which they are not. They're people. So be nice! Kay? K.
/rant
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Hey andr0, been following you for years and thought your art was cool but i found you on twitter recently and your bio says "proship dni". Which is confusing, since you post "proship" yu-gi-oh art on here??
Unsure if you just don't know what proshipping is (pro = for, like being prochoice) and it just means you're fine with letting people ship whatever they want, you don't have to like everything to not judge others for liking something that squicks/triggers you.
I'm proship because i enjoy the anthro furry/hybrid stuff, i like eldritch monsters, don't mind a little bit of gore ect. I'm triggered by noncon and anything with underage characters but i just don't go looking for it or i block people who post it, i understand that people can like things i don't and that it can help with healing trauma for survivors. Being proship is rooted in horror and lgbt+ art too, things that others don't like or upsets them but they don't judge people for liking it.
This is getting a bit long, I'm sorry I'm just disappointed and hoping it's a mistake and you didn't know what it meant. Someone shared your art in our server and they liked it until someone said oh they have proship dni in their bio and collectively blocked you much to my surprise, i said but andr0 can't be an anti surly??
Antis (people against proshipping) spread misinformation, harrass, send death threats, doxx and overall insist that fiction affects reality. So if you make art that has cannibalism, you must secretly want to eat people, if you like incest you must be into that irl too!! Which means by that logic, anyone who does furry or monster art must be into beastiality, or if they do gore they must be a murderer.
Makes no sense, it's just people being creative, a lot of the "bad" stuff is usually people venting their trauma and yet they are the ones who get harrassed.
I noticed you have kv dni in your bio too, if it's something that's triggering, then that's a fine label but the proship dni one is hypocritical.
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Just a PSA to be kind to one another pls!
Some ppl prefer Vox Machina
Others love the Mighty Nein
And for other's Bell's Hells is their favorite!
It's OKAY to miss your favorite party! I LOVE the Mighty Nein! A lot of their stories were very personal to me and resonated with me
And HEAVY reminder to not be assholes if the M9 two-shot isn't what you expected.
Essek may not be there
Kingsley/Mollymauk may not be there
It may not be what we imagined at all
Yes the stories and characters are personal to us but at the end of the day we don't own them. Enjoy it, feel what you feel, but try to be kind
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