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1moremilgram-enjoyer · 6 months
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MeMe and Control over One's Own Destiny
Alright I've been holding off on talking about Mikoto until Double releases, but I saw he was on a train and my brain went Silly. Don't you understand how crazy the symbolism is?! (<- Mentally unwell)
So now I have to talk about how MeMe handles the concept of destiny and the control the alters have on the system's future, because it's honestly so interesting to me.
CW Murder
Disclaimer: I'm not an expert on DID, feel free to correct me if I get anything wrong
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The first big connection between MeMe and the idea of destiny is obviously the recurring theme of tarot cards. These are used for divination, meaning the practice of trying to learn about the future through supernatural means. In other words, they're deeply tied to the concept of destiny, of future events that will come to affect us, and the ways we may influence it. What's important to take away here is that, regardless of whether or not you believe in it, reading tarot cards is a way for people to try to understand their future so they can take try to take control of it.
Once you make this little connection, a lot of the imagery in MeMe starts to get interesting. To give you an example, one of the opening shots is of a bunch of tarot cards all scattered in water.
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So, their future is scattered, it's uncertain, it's messy, etc. You get the idea, I don't think I need to elaborate on why Mikoto's life is a bit of a mess.
However, I think there are two scenes which are particularly interesting in this regard. When Aokoto (host) draws a blank card in the first chorus, and when he gathers the cards in the deck at the start of the third chorus.
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So first, we can be sure this is Aokoto because the lyrics not only use 'boku', but also express confusion at the situation, which only really fits the host.
Why am I [boku] here? It must be a mistake? Take a good look at me [boku], until you find me The truth will come to reveal itself I won't forgive you if this is happening to me even though I'm right
Why am I [boku] here? It must be a mistake? Take a good look at me [boku], until you find me
(Note: If there is no clarification on which pronoun is used when I put lyrics here, it's because the Japanese doesn't actually use any pronouns)
What's happening here? As stated, the tarot cards are a representation of destiny and their future. By drawing a tarot card, Aokoto is trying to understand his situation and destiny better. And by stacking the deck up neatly, he's trying to take control of his destiny, of his future. The desire to be free and be able to control his life is a very important part of Aokoto's character:
(T1) Q14: What will you be doing in 10 years? M (Ao): I'd like to work independently and make my own design company. That way I'm free to do what I want.
(T1) Q8: What are your reasons for wanting to work for your current job? M (Ao): I work at an advertising company that's at the top of the business world, you know? Just being able to get to that position is something to be proud of. I worked really hard to get hired there, too.
Aokoto places high value on the work he's done, because that shows how committed he is to having control over his life and his job.
(T1) Q12: How do you get to work? M (Ao): I ride a road bike. It's a hobby of mine, and it's good to exercise too. I don't need to worry about missing the train, but that can either be a good or bad thing.
I've seen this answer interpreted a few different ways, but personally I believe what Aokoto's implying is that the freedom of not having to rely on the train is both good and bad. Essentially, he doesn't have to stress about missing it, but there's also no guarantee that he'll get to work in time without the reliability of the train. However, he still prefers the bike, because it gives him more freedom.
... Foreshadowing is a narrative device-
There's also the matter of the tarot spreads which appear in that "blank card" scene. There are two distinct ones:
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Now, the whole mess is too complicated to get into here (and I actually am holding off from analysis until we get extra context from Double for that reason), but I believe one of these spreads belongs to Aokoto, and the other belongs to Midokoto (Secret Third gatekeeper alter). Which is which doesn't matter, because the card I want to focus on is the card in the "Hopes and Fears" position (EXTREMELY long story), which is I - The Magician (upright) in both of them. The Magician represents (among a fuckton of other things because tarot cards are frustratingly ambiguous by design) power, potential, basically the ability to achieve your goals. Thus, in the "Hopes and Fears" position, it would mean Aokoto wants to be able to control his life and fulfill his potential, and is afraid he might not be able to.
There is also the "Present" or "Self" card being the reversed XII - The Hanged Man. The Hanged Man upright represents (among other things) patience, the hope that as long as everything continues the same, things will turn out okay. Thus, reversed, it could be read as implying the querent is trying their best to change their situation, but are failing at it.
And this is where we get to the second part of the scenes I pointed out before. Because when Aokoto draws a card by itself, it's a blank card. In other words, no matter how much he wants to, Aokoto doesn't have full control of his future. I mean, obviously, right? He himself can't control his destiny when the other alters are also doing pretty impactful stuff. Depending on what theories you subscribe to, he may have ended up in Milgram without even murdering anyone, which is what I believe.
The same can be seen when he tries to put the deck back together. You might notice the deck there is actually thinner than the other time we see it.
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He tries to "fix" or "arrange" his future, but he's "playing with half a deck", he's only half in control of his future. In this metaphor, the other alter(s) would have the rest of the deck, would control the rest of the system's destiny. Does that make sense?
Which gets us to the other alter who does tarot reading.
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Notice the red mannequin there? The way 0 - The Fool's pouch of food is now a skull? And you can see this alter, heavily implied to be Orekoto, reads a Celtic cross spread with the Fool in the "querent" or "present" position.
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Thus, The Fool represents Orekoto, and he too desires control over their future. That's why he's reading the spread, the same way Aokoto previously tried to draw a card to check his future. And I think it's pretty safe to say Orekoto must have killed or attacked at least one person, which is his way of trying to secure a better future for the system. Protector alter and all that.
[Timelines] Mikoto (Ao): Can you hear me talking like this? If you can hear me, then answer me. Why are you doing such horrible things? Hey. It's your fault things have become like this. ……Answer me!! Mikoto (Ore): Ah, ahhh!! Because, I did it for my/your (Boku's) sake…! Because I/you (Boku-ga) would break apart!!
(Translation by Maristelina)
Plus all the other reasons to believe that.
That spread is a bit odd for many reasons, but one thing we can pretty much be sure of is Orekoto's "Hopes and Fears" are represented by VII - The Chariot.
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The Chariot (among other things) represents strength of will and control, basically think of it as a more forceful version of The Magician. Thus, Orekoto also hopes he can take control of their life, though he does it through force, and he fears he might be getting too forceful.
If I could laugh, if I could go back I'd play dead even though I'm alive right? If I could end, if I could stop How long would this dream go on?
Assuming it is Orekoto singing here (no pronouns so), it seems he doesn't want to kill, but sees himself cornered, like he has to kill. If he could stop, he'd "go back and play dead even while alive", he wouldn't kill anymore. But when he feels "boku will fall apart", he tries to save him through any means he can, which is likely murder. The exact reasons are as of yet unknown (someone stalking them, stress, could be a lot of things), but that's the idea.
However, you tarot enthusiast might notice a few interesting differences between this Chariot card and the actual Chariot card. This is important, because the meaning of these cards comes from the images, so when the image differs (apart from stylistic choices obvs), the meaning differs with it.
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First important difference: the real Chariot has lions, MeMe's Chariot has bikes. This again relates bikes to the idea of freedom and one's own will.
Foreshadowing is-
Second; MeMe's Chariot has the protagonist swinging around a mace, which the real Chariot just has a wand. I frankly don't think this means anything other than MeMe's Chariot explicitly references murder rather than other, non-physical forms of strength and force.
Third, an important part of the real Chariot is that the man doesn't hold a leash on the lions, he controls them through force of will, apparently. Meanwhile, the mannequin in MeMe's version does hold chains to control the bikes, which again I believe simply implies a more forceful and direct version of the meaning. Orekoto doesn't trust his destiny to guide the system in the right direction as long as they're strong enough, he feels he needs to have more direct control.
And finally, the lions in the real Chariot are fine, but in MeMe's version, one of the bikes is fucking exploding.
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So what the hell is up with that? Well, let's keep in mind what I said before. Aokoto also wants control of his life. So I believe in a way these bikes represent Aokoto and Orekoto's actions. One of them Orekoto has direct control over (he controls his own actions, after all), while the other is getting hurt by Orekoto's control. Orekoto may want nothing more than to protect the system, but the way he does it is harmful to Aokoto and destroys the control he wants to have over their life. I mean, it landed them in Milgram (according to some interpretations), and it's not like Aokoto likes the murder.
(T1) Q6: Tell us what you hate. M (Ao): Staying up all night working / reptiles / violence
[Double Preview] Hey now, I [ore] saved you right? So why in the hell are you crying?
(I will use the preview as evidence, watch me)
Temporary CW for abusive relationships and rape (Mono Poisoner)
This idea of "love" that hurts the other is also implied by Mono Poisoner, their Trial 1 cover. Though to be clear, Orekoto is not anywhere near as awful as the protagonist of Mono Poisoner, since he isn't intentionally hurting the rest of the system, and obviously isn't actually abusing the other alter(s).
“She belongs completely, entirely to me!” Kissing, sleeping together, everything beyond that too No one can hope to cut this connection between us
After brandishing that poisonous desire to monopolize and having erased YOU completely, It seems like it can be easily embraced, the entirety of that heart “YOU best not get carried away!”
Taking out the really violent and abusive elements out, this does vaguely fit the idea I'm trying to get across.
Temporary CW over
Anyways, the point is that Orekoto wants control over their life, but is accidentally harming Aokoto by taking away his agency.
There is more symbolism of this ‘drive to control destiny’ in the moon which consistently appears throughout MeMe.
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As you can see, it’s in the first quarter phase. This is halfway between the New Moon which represents the beginning of a journey and the Full Moon which represents the end or rebirth, and because of that, it can represent a difficult time where decisions must be made, a point where strength of will is necessary. This again fits both of Aokoto and Orekoto, since they’re both making important decisions for their future. Hence also why the moon is half and half, the future is being decided half by Aokoto, half by Orekoto.
Alternatively, you could read it as only Orekoto making decisions, with the other 'half' being "left in the dark" because Aokoto doesn't know what Ore's doing. That would explain why the moon only shows up in relation to Orekoto in the internal world and the murder scenes.
Heavy speculation incoming (more than before anyways)
But hold on a second. I said before the upright Hanged Man, the card on Mikoto's shirt through most of MeMe, is about patience and not doing anything to change their situation. This is somewhat contradictory to The Fool, which is all about new opportunities and taking new risks (long story), and is obviously contradictory to the reversed Hanged Man because that's how tarot cards work. Because of that, and everything else I've been saying, it feels like the upright Hanged Man doesn't really fit either Aokoto or Orekoto.
Which is why it's so convenient we have a third (plot-relevant, there may be more) alter who does want their life to continue as is, isn't it?
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The minus energy that I swallowed Hugged me [boku] Maybe it's okay to try to keep on living Split in half, Make that heart beat
This scene is very clearly connected to the aftermath of a murder, and shows an alter that has accepted the "negative (minus) energy" of violence. However, the use of 'boku' rules out Orekoto as the singer. Thus, we have ourselves our favorite Secret Third Alter, Midokoto. And Midokoto says, filling in the blanks, that ‘maybe it’s okay to keep living [like this]’, as long as they ‘split in half’ to ‘make that heart beat.’
Before we continue, I have to address that yes, I believe Midokoto is represented by the upright Hanged Man, even though he’s the only alter who’s never seen wearing the shirt. Either his back is turned, he’s shirtless, or straight up has a completely different shirt. However, I actually think this makes perfect sense.
It’s widely accepted that if Midokoto exists, he’s likely a gatekeeper alter who co-fronts most of the time, meaning he’s still aware of everything that’s happening even while he isn’t controlling the body (<- simplified version, read more if you’re interested [alter roles] [co-fronting]). Therefore, he’s a constant in Mikoto’s life, and it makes sense for him to always be present in some way as long as any alter is on screen. He’s on the shirt when the other two are there, so when the shirt isn’t there, it’s because the ‘upright Hanged Man’ is the one controlling the body. Does that make sense?
I should note, Mikoto’s version of The Hanged Man includes a bunch of eyes on the background.
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Which fits the idea of Midokoto overseeing everything in the others’ lives, and for the inverse in Aokoto’s case could also be interpreted as societal pressure, long story.
Yes, Midokoto's celtic cross spread has the reversed Hanged Man in the middle of The Wheel, but let’s just say that means ‘present’ rather than ‘querent.’ Yes, there’s a Fool portrait in the background of that one scene, I swear there’s an explanation but it’s too long to get into here.
Point is, he’s the one who wants their life to continue as is, and thus the one who fits the idea of ‘patience’ that The Hanged Man (upright) embodies.
But make no mistake. He still has The Magician as his “Hopes and Fears” in the spread which represents him, meaning he does yearn for some control and fears not having the means to achieve it.
However, I believe the type of control he’s looking for is different from the other two. See, while Aokoto wants freedom and control over his life in a more conventional way (good job, free movement, independence), and Orekoto wants control in a ‘no one will stop “I/you” from achieving what “I/you” want’ kinda way (aka safety), Midokoto wants control over the system, not the rest of their life. He wants to keep Aokoto and Orekoto ‘split in half’ because that’s how they can both live as they please, it ‘makes their heart beat.’
That’s why the moon that represents decision-making is split in half. That’s why there’s only two bikes in The Chariot card. That’s why Midokoto never bothers to read a single tarot card. Because the ones deciding where their life moves are Aokoto and Orekoto, all Midokoto does is keep things running smoothly. Though of course, this is all just my interpretation.
In fact, you can even tell based on what we believe each alter to do. Aokoto does the day-to-day work, making sure he has the opportunity to achieve his dream of working independently in the future. Orekoto deals with threats until the system as a whole is safe, which includes throwing away evidence so they don't get arrested. He does a dogshit job at it, yeah, but he's trying.
However, once they get into the apartment, when the external threats have been dealt with, the one who bathes to make sure Aokoto doesn't learn of Orekoto's actions, the one who keeps their lives metaphorically 'split in half', is Midokoto.
Heavy speculation kinda over
So, where were we? I said this was inspired by the Double thumbnail, didn’t I? Well, yes, even if I have very little to say about it in relation to this post. You could say I kinda, uh, went off the rails a bit (<- I am immensely unfunny)
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As I said, he’s on a train. And with all the stuff I mentioned before about how bikes are associated with freedom for him and stuff, it makes the imagery of being stuck on a train with the victims (I assume that’s what the mannequins represent, I’ve seen other interpretations) a lot more interesting.
Think about it. When you get on a train, you made the decision to enter it, but you don’t have control over where it goes. And that’s what’s happening here: the alter on screen is in for the ride, and he feels there’s nothing he can do to alter the course. It’s like a railroad.
Aokoto didn’t get on this train. Obviously the scene is metaphorical (otherwise who left their mannequins in the goddamn public train), but we know Aokoto doesn’t use the train. However, he’s on it now, alongside Orekoto who is probably the one fronting here? I assume, given the red light in the background. In my mind it would make sense for the thumbnails to be Aokoto T1 -> Orekoto T2 -> Midokoto T3, but that doesn’t have to be the case.
What I’m trying to convey is the symbolism of the system being stuck in a set path, a set destiny, caused by a decision not made by Aokoto. And if Orekoto is really the one fronting or being represented here, he’s miserable because of the path his actions have landed him on.
If I could break it, if I could change Can I do it, I wonder from when I started to give up
He’s ‘given up’ because he’s accepted he’s ‘on the train’, his path is already set and he can’t change it (“if I could change”). Yes, give me that Orekoto angst!
Anyways, please keep in mind this is all my interpretation of the symbolism and all of this is extremely subjective, especially with how confusing Mikoto's entire story is. I hope you forgive my brainrot at seeing a guy take a train. Take care!
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akumatizedpuns · 2 years
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Anti-Arguments and Rebuttals for them
Things to remember:
Antis usually want an easy target. Freelance artists/writers, small businesses, etc.
But it's easier to get angry with a smaller entity than one you know you'll never be able to do anything with/about.
A lot of antis just deeply enjoy the thrill of witch hunting. If you pay attention, you'll notice a lot of them engage in cancel culture and make memes about the topics they call themselves taking a stand for or against.
Antis will almost always use a strawman argument. Most things on this list will consist of these sorts of arguments.
1. Fiction affects reality.
The funniest and most ridiculous thing about this argument to me is that it always comes out of nowhere. No one ever says anything that implies this isn't the case, yet antis seem to think everyone except themselves are woefully unaware of this fact.
If fiction didn't affect reality, then people wouldn't use fiction to work through trauma. Obviously, fiction does affect reality.
But I somehow doubt you'll ever come across an anti who wants to ban all violence and/or disturbing content in media. No one wants Fortnite, GTA, Mortal Kombat or Call of Duty to be taken off the shelves forever. No one wants Tokyo Ghoul, Attack on Titan, Death Note or Dragon Ball to never be available to watch again. Yet all contain negative content. Negative content that is consumed by kids daily.
If an anti was really concerned about fiction and the fact that it can affect reality, they would be tackling these bigger problems. Some of these games and a lot of violent or disturbing media in general have been linked to real life attacks. There are so many more.
But I'm not gonna end my argument there and just say, 'Since antis are okay with this wrong thing, then they should be okay with that wrong thing.'
No. At the end of the day, it comes down to the person. Educate children on safe ways to consume media. If someone shipping two cousins together somehow influences a person in the real world to do something terrible, then there's something wrong with that person.
If an SA victim is dressed a certain way and get's SA'd would you blame the SA victim for how they were dressed or the perpetrator? You also have to realise that by placing the blame on fiction, you're enabling similar behavior.
Because too many times throughout history we've seen a murderer get the 'benefit of the doubt' because they were inspired by some form of media. That's no excuse.
2. If you read/write something you must condone it.
Okay, lets say I'm writing a story wherein the protagonist is assassinating a Hitler-like character or entity. The character describes their murder as though they are completely happy about it. Everyone in the story continue on with incredible lives, something that would not have been possible if not for the murder.
Let me first ask, what do you think about this? Do you hate or at the very least disagree with the way the murder was glorified/romanticized because you think that murder is reprehensible no matter what? Or do you think some form or semblance justice was served?
Neither is wrong or right. Not in fiction. Objectivity would come more into play if this were a real situation, though.
But just because I, the author, decided to write it from the character's prespective doesn't mean I condone murder. That didn't mean that I didn't get to acquire any insight on the possible prespective of the character. But even if I did, I could flat-footedly disagree regardless.
I don't feel as though I can explain this. It's something you have to understand. But I'll post this link and hope you can put at least some of the pieces together, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralityTropes
3. It's okay to harass someone because shipping something that problematic is just wrong.
The point is, no one in fiction is sentinent, except for in our minds. Morality is much more flexible.
It throws me that animals are sentinent, yet we'll know this and eat them regardless. We're hard-pressed to value animals above people, let alone put them on remotely similar levels.
But somehow their is a group of people out there who are condone harassing or threatening people because a completely non-sentinent being is being hurt from their prespective. Really??
Humans go by a general consensus. That we won't put animals above humans. Yet, we're willing to put invisible, fictional entities above humans? This sounds eerily similar to radical cult/religous groups. The only difference is that antis (hopefully) know for sure that a fictional characters aren't real. Most religious people at least have an excuse, even if it's a terrible one.
4. Aging up Characters is wrong
The most unbelieveable argument, but I'll bite. It's not. It's not pedophilia. By Google definitions, pedophilia is a sexual attraction toward children. A pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to children.
This is not pedophilia. Characters have been aged up in media ever since media has existed. You are not sexualizing a child by aging them up, even if said drawing is suggestive.
When you incorrectly use this term, you make it harder for real victims to be believed, you trivialize the struggles that actual victims have/are going through. If it's weird and suspicious to you, then fine.
5. All proshippers are pedophiles/condone pedophilia.
Firstly, please stop saying this as a lot of proshippers are minors. You are further spewing misinfo on what a pedophile is toward someone who is still developing and may meet an actual pedophile but aren't able to properly identify them because some stranger in line kept insisting an artist who aged up a character is one. Minors are very easily influeneced by the internet. Being harassed does more damage than shipping something they will likely grow out of.
And those who are not minors usually are survivors of CSA/SA and cope with their trauma through drawing or writing certain content. They get to rewrite or redraw what happened to them and give themselves a better ending.
You don't have the right to tell them how to cope. Fiction is supposed to be a safe space, thus, why it is a medium recommended by therapists and has been for centuries. This shit has literally been researched.
Secondly, adult proshippers usually have something along the lines of 'Minors DNI' on their pages. I notice that even antis who post explicit/NSFW content don't, though. Which is ironic.
And the 'not all victims cope this way so they don't have to cope this way' argument is valid.
6. Well, I wouldn't attack them if they weren't public with it.
That's no excuse. You have entirely too much time on your hands, first off. Be hateful towards a person who actually deserves that hate.
Secondly, as long as they have proper warnings on their page, it's their shit. You can't tell them what to do with it.
Lastly, I've never met a proshipper that forced an anti to interact with them or their content. I've never met a proshipper who can somehow resist being blocked by the complete stranger who happened to stumble across their page.
Generally speaking, I don't believe in the 'don't like, don't interact' thing. Not with video games. Or TV. Or social media. You have the right. But when it's another human being, I highly doubt that's something that can't be accomplished.
This also sounds weirdly familiar to the, "Well, if gay people weren't throwing it in my face, I wouldn't have anything to say about them!" Antis are oddly authoritarian.
In Conclusion:
There's no excuse to harass anyone over fiction. And if someone has a very difficult time seperating fiction from reality, I highly recommend therapy in all brutal honesty.
Nothing will ever make telling a suicidal person to kill or hurt themselves okay.
Nothing will ever make falsely telling a survivor that they are their abuser or like their abuser okay.
If I tell Charlie Brown to kill himself right now it won't matter.
If I tell a real person to kill themselves, my words can and just might have real, lasting, effects.
If I tell Percy Jackson to kill himself he'll be okay and we know this without question.
If I tell a real person to kill themselves because they told me they ship Percy with Hera or whoever the fuck, theirs no way of knowing. And if you're fine with that - if you even so much as defend that - then maybe you should engage in something less hateful.
How about worshipping a flying spaghetti monster (since you may as well be)?
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anxious-lee · 2 months
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i deeply apologize for bothering you with this question, but do you have any tips for starting a tk blog? I NEED to talk about tks somewhere but at the same time im kinda scared 😭
No apology needed, I love to help 😊
I was in your shoes not long ago so let me tell you some things that I've learned over the past couple years
1. Since you're nervous, start with a sfw blog. If that's all you want, great. If you want a nsfw, try out a few months with the sfw blog first
2. I wouldn't jump right into actively tickle teasing anyone when you're fresh out of the gate. People need time to learn who you are, what your vibe is, and what kind of blog you run. The first few months I was here, I did very little besides share personal tickle thoughts, memes, and reblogging fics. After a while, people will become comfortable talking to you directly and then you can gauge how ready you are for teasing.
3. Speaking of teasing, don't chase it too long unless you can tell that the recipient is open to it. Read their cues in their messages and decide if tickle talk is welcome. But a sly comment rarely hurts
4. Be sure to leave positive feedback on as many fics and art pieces as you can, because as a writer, the BIGGEST motivation to keep doing what im doing, is seeing how happy it makes other people. Spread the positivity and support around!
5. STAY SAFE!! I don't know how old you are, but regardless, do not use any personal information on your blog, no first or last name, none of that (basically just normal internet safety rules)
6. This one I had to learn along the way: you don't owe anyone any kind of anything. It can feel exciting if someone messages you wanting to talk about more intimate tickle details (where your worst spot is etc) but you need to make sure you're 100% comfortable. You don't owe anyone a peek behind the curtain. Nothing you post is "begging" for a conversation about personal stuff. Now, if you WANT to talk about that stuff, that's a different story. Go right ahead :)
7. I can't stress this enough, PLEASE don't tag your posts with fandom names ("#hazbin hotel"). That broadcasts them to people outside of the community. They don't want that. We don't want that. A good alternative is to make a tag with the word "tickle" in it (#hazbin hotel tickles)
8. Make sure to properly tag your posts as sfw or nsfw. It can be very jarring to sex-repulsed individuals to get jumpscared by horny tickle content
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE!
9. Have fun with it! This blog can be a place for you to explore yourself and find people you can relate to. Make the most of it! ❤️😊
Hope this helps you get started 🫶
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katyspersonal · 5 months
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18 for Gehrman and 22 & 25 for Laurence!
(Asks from this ( x ) meme)
18. How about a relationship they have in canon with another character that you admire?
We only really have Laurence, Maria, Doll and Moon Presence because whereas Willem, Djura, Eileen and Ludwig are addressed there is so much to headcanon about them that it probably evades "in canon" category... :') I really love the depth and the sadness of both his bonds with Maria and Laurence, regardless of whether they're romantic or platonic. I am a little antsy that they've left some lines suggesting a much deeper bond with Laurence in cut content realm, but I am reusing everything I physically can, sooooo xD
There is also Paleblood Hunter which I love to think is sort of reincarnation of Laurence ( x ), but this one, again, either falls back into Laurence category or there isn't enough to develop during just one night.. 🤔 Final product suggests that Gehrman loves all hunters equally, including us, which is still sweet!
22. If you're a fic reader, what's something you like in fics when it comes to this character? Something you don't like?
Hahaha, tough luck, I only read fanfics from either 1) people that are unreachable and would never interact with the fandom or 2) people I trust deeply as friends! Reading fanfics became way too important emotional experience for me to mentally manage feeling rejected by the writer as a person. But in the AU where I am a normal person without such deep insecurities, I say everything regarding his story is good! Byrgenwerth era where he only starts picking interest in holy blood? Good. Early Healing Church? Good. His last days where he can't save himself anymore? Good. Whatever time of his life you take will be interesting, because HE is interesting! I definitely adore how Laurence is included in your fanfic, both his personality and his actions!
I do not know the state of Bloodborne fanfics well enough to judge, so I think my general turn-off applies; romantic/sexual fanfics that have such little character-specific or lore-specific context that if you detach the characters from the source material no one will notice! Good ship fanfic is the one that specifically applies to these characters, not just a random fantasy with their names attached! Easiest cheat with this problem is having characters reminiscise or address some prior events in canon, especially if they led to... uhhhh, the """interaction""", but really, there are various ways to bind them to the setting 🤔
25. What was your first impression of this character? How about now?
YEEEEES YES GOOD QUESTION!!!! My first exposure to Bloodborne cast was getting recommended a compillation of boss themes with images attached on Youtube, so I just saw a BW image of his beast form without any context paired with his theme. For some reason I thought he was some wise, serious, dignified monster found (fought?) somewhere in library-like place, and that he could talk too!
I was yet to discover how feral this form of him really was, or that he even used to be a human to begin with! I thought this videogame just had monsters x) Now I am also aware how dirty his hands are, when I thought he was a morally grey character until [player] would disturb him for some reason. He is very complex and deep. Love him for that, but the guy is so heavy that memeing about him is easier dfshfhds But I was right on the money with 'dignified librarian dad' impression, after all! *spoon-feeds you my "Laurence is a son of Cainhurst librarian and quite a bookworm in general" speculation for 700th time*
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^^^ This is also the closest I can get to my first mental image of his human form after I've learned he had one and was a scholar in Byrgenwerth! You can see dark hair and buttchin were always there, but he used to have green eyes and less facial hair... Also his glasses were exclusively for reading. And he was tall and less "cute". I agree the "handsome" beta Laurence is a bit better than my final product <:3 He feels more... laurence-y xD If I am to ever create something 'serious' for Bloodborne, like maybe a large comics, I might roll back to this image more, but for now it is all little kitten Laurence for me.
Thank you for asking!
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THE TIME HAS COME TO TALK ABOUT JACQUES SNICKET AND OLIVIA CALIBAN, MY FRIENDS!
(Spoilers for ASOUE Netflix ahead and some book spoilers as well)
So I am absolutely loving these asks about [Netflix] Jacques and Olivia (Thank you so much, friends! 💖), but I feel bad for my anon-friends because I am sensing a sort of hesitant, nervous, making-sure-we-all-know-this-is-for-NETFLIX-Jacques x Olivia-so-this-ask-is-justified kind of energy which I can completely understand given the circumstances, however, I am the absolute last person who would ever, ever, a whole page of 'ever's judge anybody about this ship in particular. 😅 (Or maybe I'm off base here, and my anon-friends just really, really don't like the idea of Book Jacques x Book Olivia and want to be sure to differentiate? Which is a fair point too!)
Regardless, I feel it is time to come to come clean with you all about me, Jacques Snicket, and Olivia Caliban...
Jacques x Olivia was my ASOUE crackship before the Netflix series was released!
Maybe it was the drama™️ of it all? (A/N: Gotta love that sweet, sweet angst) Or this feeling I got while reading The Carnivorous Carnival that they had history maybe as good friends, maybe as something more, who knows? (A/N: It's the vibes) Maybe I took one (1) specific line from Olivia's whole 'confession' sequence in TCC, ran with it to the hinterlands of my mind and created an angsty betrayal subplot that had no business existing in the first place? (A/N: I did. I did do this. Pretty sure it was L.S.'s intention, right? Just kidding…) Whatever the reason (A/N: those are all the reasons, literally in the preceding sentences), I crack-shipped this for years prior to Netflix, and I will present the following texts from an exchange with my sister "Jackalope" (A/N: her nickname is a meme-y reference to ASOUE actually) as evidence that I was on board for this ship all the way back in the dark ages of February of 2018 when the trailer for Season 2 dropped...
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(A/N: My sisters and I took these screenshots at the time & saved them as proof of this phenomenon so I was able to find them more easily that you might think 😅)
And well, my friends, (as I'm sure we all know), I am happy to say he did so much more than just sit in that car with her...
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(Image from Shipping Wiki which I didn't know was a thing until just now! Glad that Jacques x Olivia is included there 💕 Image brightened up/edited by me)
After both of my sisters teased me mercilessly about even entertaining the possibility of Jacques and Olivia as a crackship, I cannot express to you my utter joy and delight in watching their Netflix counterparts fall deeply in love and be given this incredible romance storyline! I was so blessed and so vindicated, and I literally screamed when the kiss happened. Meanwhile, my sisters were watching in total shock like "I can't believe you actually predicted this!" 😂 We literally had to pause the episode after the kiss because everyone in the room just needed a moment to collect themselves (myself included).
All of this said, I promise I really do see Netflix Jacques x Netflix Olivia as a completely separate relationship (which I do actually ship to the highest, OTP levels). I am happy to report, however, that though Book Jacques and Book Olivia will always be a total crackship, my sisters did eventually concede it to me and never teased me about it again. And that is just how the story goes, folks. 😁
[A/N: Other fun facts about me, my ASOUE Book Series OTP is Dewey/Kit so as you can imagine, the Netflix series was a very, very good time for me overall, but that is, perhaps, a story for another time...]
TL;DR: I am the real Madame Lulu, and my inbox is always open to discuss any and all iterations of the Jacques Snicket x Olivia Caliban ship no explanation or specifications needed. (A/N: Of course, if you'd like to specify, that is welcomed and up to you. Just letting you all know this ship will never need to be defended or justified to me. We're all friends here 💖). Cheers, associates! 😁
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shy-forceghost · 1 year
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omg, re: aroace jillian, yesss, i am like: (see below meme) w you over the hc, it’s galaxytier, always one of my favs
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do you have any other aspec hcs for other wn characters? personally i like to hc camila & mother superion, and a good chunk of the ocs as ace and/or aro without realizing it, they just think god’s being super helpful and helping them avoid ‘temptation’ lmao
i also love aspec lilith hcs and alternate between aro sapphic jillian and aroace jillian, and alternate between aro bi lilith, ace bi lilith, aroace, or aroace bi lilith depending on the mood
and then i love ace, gray or demi ace beatrice & aro, demi aro or gray aro ava hcs
also love hcing em as qprs
Hahaha loved the meme. WN really uniting people out there right?
Also thank you for this question and sorry in advance because you just opened my bottomless trunk of rants :D
god’s being super helpful and helping them avoid ‘temptation’ it's the ultimate catholic aroace girl experience (been there haha)
I also hc Camila as aspec, the scene when she says "how hot" Todd is just serves me to reassure the fact that nuns aren't blind haha, they can experience attraction (independently of gender, see my other hcs) but at the end they've taken the decision of remain celibate -or not- and that comes from their personal values/principles, regardless of attraction of any kind. * I think Camila doesn't overthink in terms of attraction because it isn't something that common for her, therefore not "that hard" for her to ignore it.
Mother Superion is one of those characters I don't feel we have enough info in order to hc her orientation, and I don't feel comfortable doing so when that happens. Honestly I see her as straight haha, one of the clearest examples of women who actually experience attraction but their love, faith, and desire for service were stronger. That happens and it's ok. Same case with Yasmine.
I'm more inclined by aroace Jillian (she never mentions romance or sexual attraction in any way), but I can see why some hc her as sapphic. In KTY's words "whatever goats your boat :D"
Yes for aspec sapphic Lilith as in "she might or might not be attracted to girls but doesn't mind, because she's just focused in other things".
And yeees! demi Bea for the win <3 There's actually an amazing fic that explores asexual Beatrice and how that happens alongside her being a lesbian (i.e. how both identities can go by hand and how religious trauma doesn't "cause" asexuality). I can't remember the name but it must be somewhere in my blog under the ace beatrice tag
I'm not entirely sure if I'll hc Ava as acespec or arospec. She actually seems -to me- like that one character of the complete opposite of the spectrum haha, either pan or bi.
*the conversation of attraction and religious women its is actually something I find deeply interesting. Having grown in a religious environment (read: being close with nuns haha) I can assure you that there's as much variety of orientations as in any other community. More than once a nun had told me that "they can find someone attractive, they just don't act about it ;)". Many had relationships before joining the church, one thing doesn't change the other.
I think that the idea that, historically, many many nuns have been queer (mostly sapphic and aspec) comes from the fact that from a very long time, religious life was the only "acceptable" role a woman couldn't take that didn't require her to marry a man. It was also a way to guarantee themselves certain grade of freedom and education, but that's a conversation for another time because this has already gotten too long and I'm digressing from your original question.
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You maybe can't answer this, but I just want to get it off my chest. So I'm genderqueer and a lesbian right, I do feel some ties to butchness and I like the term and what comes with it, thing is I sometimes like to dress and act more feminine and so I feel like I shouldn't use the term butch for myself? Although I'd say most of the time I am butch, but then again, not always.
Thank you for just reading this
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Hi hi friend, we're in the same boat! I went on a bit of a rant about this just the other day (more about how my presentation reflects my current gender identity, but similar stuffs).
I've seen a lot of people say "butches can be soft too, butches can be feminine too" but those same people will turn around and say "if you ever like to dress feminine, even on occasion, then you're not butch". Us out here feeling a connection to butchness but still feeling those ties to femininity get so many mixed messages, and terms that would fit us much better (coughfutchcough) we're told aren't real and we shouldn't identify with them.
The way I see it, if people consider femme and butch genders/subgenders, it should 100% be considered possible and respected for some of us to be genderfluid within these labels as well and move between them.
I'm also 90% of the time deeply drawn to my own butchness, but I have days where femininity is so freaking important to me, and it's created a lot of dissonance in my identity. Especially since a lot of people like to put others in neat little boxes when people like you and I don't fit in just one of these boxes.
Identify however you feel most comfortable. No one knows you better than you do, and no one gets to decide how you choose to describe and express your gender identity. I've slowly and hesitantly started to reclaim futch as an identity, regardless of how the chronically online tumblr lesbian community feels about it (I mean, it was only coined in the late 80's/early 90's, clearly it's just a meme (sarcastic)). You do you. It's okay if you want to identify one way to describe how you feel most of the time (butch) while also using terms that break that down a little further. It's all up to you!
I can't find the post but I remember seeing someone say "shout out to butches still learning how to be butch" and it changed my life ngl. Everyone has to learn what butch means to them and how they express their butchness. It's okay if yours is a little to the left.
If you're interested in following a blog that supports "messy" identities, message me and I'll send you my sfw blog. I talk a lot over there about people who's gender identity and presentation are much more fluid. People like us are left out of the conversation too often - I want to create a space both here and over there where people feel safe to be themselves.
Thanks for your ask, and I hope this brought you a little comfort and relief. I get how confusing, frustrating, and sometimes isolating having a fluid identity is, but remember that you are never alone.
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Infantilizing, that's the word I was searching for when thinking of s3 Steve. You're so correct because it's literally true. The sailor costume only makes it so much worse as well. (I mean if you think about it little boys get dressed in such costumes for family photoshoots.) Steve literally hates it so much but the fandom makes it out as if it's his awakening to dress feminine from this point forward. I side eye everyone who says s3 Steve is peak Steve.
I literally get so mad thinking about what they did to his character and especially how the fandom just makes it so much worse. I refuse to read any Steddie fics because Steve is not recognizable in those, he's even more ooc than in the show.
Not to be a bitch but yesterday when the Barbie posters dropped and the fandom ofc made edits with Steve only being referred as the babygirl I wanted to barf. Actual Steve (even s3 one) would hate it so much that people reduce him to only this, as if he doesn't have anything else. Literally every other character got a cool tagline in those posters.
Also what I hate in the fandom is how much trauma porn they project onto Steve for some angst fueled fics. They infantilize him even more by giving him disabilities and have other characters come save him because too dumb do anything. I mean you can give him some repercussions from his injuries but at least do a little bit of research and not use it for some angst so some other character (Eddie) can swoop in and save him from himself. It's extremely disrespectful towards people with actual disabilities. Like I have to wear glasses and it's so popular to give Steve glasses as well but 80% of those fics are him being so insecure about it that he needs others to constantly reassure him and force him to wear it. Like thanks so much. Or characters painting his hearing aids because they are too ugly for him (literally I saw this exact take and that person in the tags said "idk anything about hearing aids I just thought it was cute", like just say you only care about the angst aspect). I have nothing against people who have disabilities projecting those onto Steve because they usually know what they are talking about and handle it with care, but most of the fandom just uses those disabilities to make Steve even more submissive and pathetic for his partners.
People who enjoy S3!Steve most are wrong. S2!Steve is best Steve, but I'll give S4!Steve a pass purely because I find him deeply attractive (especially during the unhinged moment with the bat). S3!Steve had to wear an awful outfit and the show played him being tortured in a more humorous light than what was appropriate. 0/10
I don't read st/ddie fics because I think the ship sucks. like. I fail to see anything appealing about it other than the fandom wanting two decently attractive (subjectively speaking because I do not find Eddie attractive, sorry stans) white boys to fuck.
I won't comment on the Barbie memes except to say that literally every one I've seen has annoyed me deeply.
As for the trauma porn I will be honest and say that sometimes I do enjoy a good trauma porn fic where everyone is just incredibly miserable, but those are mostly reserved for those days where I just need/want to cry for several uninterrupted hours, but even then I still have standards. My issue with Steve angst/wump fics is that often they feel less about Steve dealing with his trauma than they do about other characters needing to explain to Steve that he has trauma, and the only character I find this to be acceptable from is Hopper in a pseudo father/son familial bond moment. There's something raw about Hopper and Steve interacting and talking about trauma, whereas with other characters it feels more for show. Regardless, there are a lot of people who write Steve trauma fics in a way that just isn't done well.
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venusjeon · 3 years
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you try something new in bed with your friend with benefits, but it doesn't go as planned. OR, even if you don't love yourself, taehyung will.
♔ PAIRING: taehyung x reader
♔ GENRE: angst, smut, humour
♔ WORD COUNT: 2.2k – drabble
♔ WARNINGS: sph (small penis humiliation), fwb, mention of abusive parents & toxic friends, depression, self-deprication, tae kinkshaming you and being against pineapple on pizza😡
♔ AUTHOR'S NOTE: need me a tae to stick by my side no matter what:(
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If you’d learned something in the two years you had been hooking up with Taehyung, it was that he wasn’t really into kinks. At least before meeting you.
Not to say you were an expert yourself, but you liked trying new things you saw on the internet, and he had no problem indulging in whatever you might surprise him with. Tying his wrists to the bed’s headboard bars, using sex toys, having him slap or choke you… Nothing too crazy, in your opinion, just out of the ordinary.
It wasn’t that normal sex with him was boring, though, not at all. He always made you feel the sweetest pleasure imaginable, seemingly knowing your body better than you did since day one. Taehyung’s beauty earned everyone’s attentive stares whenever he’d walk into a room, including yours, so it was no wonder he’d had his fair share of practise. That, and the fact that you were deeply in love with him made you soon realise you’d be stupid to let him go. The thing just was, you didn’t want to date him either.
When the two of you had met, things were looking great. Abusive parents finally dead and buried—a most welcomed car accident—, you were beyond excited to start living your life the way you wanted to, especially since you could afford to, having inherited your family’s fortune. Money had never been a problem, but your parents had made it very clear that unless you followed their steps, they’d remove their only child off their will. A shame they died before that happened…
You’d wasted no time moving somewhere no one knew you, and it did you good, being able to step out of the small box the people from your hometown had put you in. Family, teachers, classmates, so-called friends… They’d all made you forget your worth, but they were gone now. A closed chapter you would never read again.
The first few months of university were nice. You’d always been told the career of your dreams was useless and wouldn’t get you anywhere, but that negativity was forgotten as soon as you surrounded yourself with people who appreciated the field as much as you did. Friends were, therefore, easy to make.
One of them was Taehyung.
You’d been introduced at a party and while sat comfortably on a sofa talking with him about anything and everything, you had an epiphany. It was him. The one. If there was such thing as a person’s other half, he was yours. It was unlike anything you’d experienced before, but you’d only needed a few hours with him to tell.
Much to your luck, Taehyung was also attracted to you—under your spell, according to his best friend Jimin, but that was surely a stretch. One thing was knowing you deserved better than the treatment you got back in your hometown, but actually believing anyone could fall for you? Haha. You had a long way to go before that happened.
Regardless, not two weeks after meeting Taehyung, you were already sleeping with him. He was, what, the third or fourth person you’d slept with? But you wanted no one else. The way he made your body feel couldn’t be rivalled, no doubt.
Your relationship wasn’t only based on sex, though, you really were friends. He sent you memes that reminded him of you, always asked to hang out in between classes, told you about his problems, made sure to include you in his plans…
The two of you sort of became unspoken friends with benefits. Needless to say, you didn’t dare confess your feelings because there was just no way he wanted you as a girlfriend, but you were fine with it. What else could someone like you aspire to? You were lucky he wanted to fuck you at all.
That kind of self-deprecation was what led you to drop out and fall back into depression.
The career you were so excited about? It happened to be more difficult and demanding for you than for anyone else—in other words, you were useless. And your friends? Turned out to be the same breed as the ones from back home, causing you to open that chapter which you’d hoped would stay forever closed.
Your parents had been right all along, to your dismay; whatever you touched ultimately rotted.
A few teachers who seemed to believe you had potential tried to persuade you not to abandon your studies, but your mind was made up. All you had the emotional energy left to do was watching tv, sleeping, eating, and torturing yourself for being the way you were.
For the next two years, that was all you did. Well, that, and hooking up with Taehyung.
Plot twist! He’d actually asked you out on a proper, official date not long after quitting from school, and when you’d asked him if it was a joke because it wasn’t funny, he assured you that he had liked you since the night you’d met. Perfect timing, right? It broke your heart to do so, but you’d declined his offer. What’s more, you had told him you never wanted to see him again.
But Taehyung wasn’t dumb. The fact that you’d dropped out, shut yourself off in the cave that was your bedroom, and stopped talking to everyone, hadn’t escaped him. He could see you were going through something, something that must be holding you back from dating him, as he was sure you had feelings for him too. You just weren’t in the right headspace, which he understood. He cared about your wellbeing more than you thought, so he would stay regardless of how hard you’d make it for him.
Convincing you not to cut him out of your life wasn’t easy, but you eventually gave in, and agreed for the two of you to remain fuck buddies, sex being all you could promise him. Taehyung had no objections. Could be worse.
So now, you were sat atop him and riding his cock just how he liked it —loved it, rather, judging by the manner in which he moaned along with you every time your skins met and made a slapping sound. He smirked, aware that you were trying your best to get him to be more vocal, since it turned you on.
“Fuck, Y/N, you really want me to come.”
“Whatever makes you think that?” you chuckled, Taehyung licking his lips before pulling you close for a sloppy kiss. Desperate to come, you refused to stop moving your hips, making it difficult for your mouths to stay glued together, but neither seemed to mind, as hearing each other’s erratic breathing and moaning was almost as arousing as the feeling of your warm tongues. You sat up again and used his thighs to support yourself, giving him a view of your body that drove him crazy, and it was then when you remembered that curious kink you’d recently read about online. “I’m just trying to feel something.”
Taehyung frowned. “What do you mean?”
“You’ve got such a small cock I can barely feel it,” you moaned, and he raised an eyebrow while looking at you as though you’d gone mad. Weren’t you the one worried his dick wouldn’t fit inside you the first time you’d laid eyes on it? Slowing down your pace, you smiled and placed your palms on his bare chest where, earlier, you’d left your mark in the form of hickeys. “Just, play along.”
Taehyung huffed out a laugh. “How does one play along to that?”
“Agree with what I’m saying,” you said, and held his hands to interlace your fingers with his.
“You’re so lucky you’re hot,” he joked, faking a long sigh. Truth was, he usually ended up liking the stuff you proposed trying out, especially if it involved you bossing him around—both of you knew it was temporary, that he was really the one in charge. And whipped for you as he was, he could not deny you a thing even if he wanted to… but this one was a weird request, to say the least. “I have a small cock.”
Pleased, you gradually sped up your pace. “You do. I should find me a real man with a big one who can fuck me properly. This is no good.”
“Oh, really?” He thrust his hips upwards without warning, causing your breath to hitch in your throat. “I’m not giving you a nice stretch?”
“Nope,” you lied. Of course he was. He knew it and you knew it, how you loved feeling him deep inside you, from any angle he fancied. “It’s pathetic,” you moaned again, “I deserve someone who can make me come.”
Taehyung was unable to suppress a snort, to which you stopped the movement of your hips. “Don't laugh!”
“You really chose the wrong guy to say that to,” he struggled to say, and you couldn’t help but crack up too, his laughter as contagious as always. Now that you thought about it, it was funny. You were getting off at Taehyung pretending to have a small prick. Some idea you’d had. “You're giggly today. I’m glad my tiny penis makes you happy." The lust in your gaze was replaced by tears forming in your eyes from the hysterics you’d fallen into, and Taehyung delighted in the sight before him. “Fuck… Should've known a small dick like mine just wouldn't do it for you. I’m ashamed of myself…”
Almost out of breath and with your face probably red as a cherry, you let yourself collapse next to him, clearly in no state to continue fucking until you recovered. Taehyung sank an elbow on the bed and turned to look at you from above. He wished you were always as happy as you seemed in that moment.
“You're beautiful,” he said lovingly, your laughing dying out.
“Are we still playing?”
“No, I mean it,” he swore as he cupped your face to kiss you, but you looked away, smile now faded. Taehyung sighed. Just sex was all your relationship was supposed to be, but he’d still been trying to breach the ramparts you’d built around your heart, yet as soon as the situation turned intimate, you would stop him. It was frustrating. “When are we gonna stop pretending we’re not in love?”
Your turn to sigh, while still avoiding his gaze. “I’m not pretending.”
“Bullshit.”
“It wouldn’t work between us, Taehyung…” your voice sank into a whisper.
“Why not? Is it because I have a micropenis?”
“It’s got nothing to do with your condition.” He scoffed. You hated talking about the subject, but it had been avoided long enough. “Look at me, Tae… I deserve to be alone, I ruin everything I touch. My family died hating me and I’ve pushed all my friends away. I couldn’t even finish the first year of college, what makes you think I could handle dating?”
“It’s not just you in a relationship, you know?” Taehyung pointed out. “And it’s not like anything will change between us, at least I don’t want it to. As for uni, dropping out is not the end of the world, you’re definitely not the first to do it. Besides, you can start over whenever you feel ready, who says you can’t? Oh, and your friends were assholes, you were right to get rid of them. I can introduce you to mine, they’re good guys, you’ve met Jimin already. And... I’m not gonna say some cliché shit like that I can be your family but, I mean, you have called me daddy before, so there’s that.”
“You’re an idiot.” You rolled your eyes, a smile tugging at your lips. If it weren’t for Taehyung, you doubted you’d have any reason to smile these days. “Why do you even like me? You could have anyone.”
Just your university was filled with far more attractive, intelligent, and fun girls who would beg on their knees for a night with Taehyung, not to mention a relationship. Why he would settle for you, was a mystery.
He shook his head. “I only want you. Who else would put up with my long rants about my tyrant of a boss? Or restrain my homicidal urges whenever someone says pineapple belongs on pizza?”
“A therapist can also do that.”
“Like the one you should get?”
“Oof. That one hurt.”
“Y/N.” Taehyung brought your hand to his lips to kiss it. “I love you.”
Time didn’t stop moving for you to process those three words. You felt every second from the moment they left his mouth, and to your surprise, it was comfort and not incredulity what your heart chose to lean towards. A sense of security in his promise of a happy future together. It almost made you tear up.
“I guess I’ll have to tell all the other guys I’m sleeping with that I’m taken.”
Taehyung smiled, his first thought being finally. “You’ll break their heart.”
“Don’t worry, they’ll manage. They’re not even real.” You wrapped your arms around his neck and kissed him softly, the way you’d always wanted to. “I love you too. I... always have.”
He kissed you again, this time with passion. “Glad we cleared that up. Now please, give my tiny penis a chance because I'm dying to fuck you.”
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do you think spongebob is not really taken seriously by anyone these days? in terms of fandoms and stuff just that one post got me thinking do people think of doing fandom stuff with spunch bop as strange and absurd? idk maybe the op of the post was more referring to smut of spongebob characters which i understand more lol it seems like sb is more of this nostalgic memory and meme producing show to many people now than a show with a fandom idk maybe i am reading too much into this lol
I mean? Kinda and kinda no. Tbh I'm glad by general audiences its not taken so seriously. Its def underappreciating the shows legacy as just nostalgia or a meme machine. But its never so bad. People typically get why people like spongebob so much so there isn't much of a problem.
And when fandom gets taken too seriously you end up with the absolute shitshow like when the Steven Universe fandom was in its prime. So I'm glad Spongebob isn't anywhere near that.
We still got some people who take it to a extremes like those cartoon reviewers who every so often go a little too far shitting on the show for being a little too different from the classics that their audiences decide to send death threats to writers and people who work on the show. So there's that extreme.
Tbh I'm glad the SB fandom is just small and isn't taken seriously. It's just a chill bubble. I def know what post your talking about. Its more about smut and I think it's understandable since these are childhood characters who are very un-human. It makes sense people would find it off putting finding smut of something they associate with childhood.
Some view it differently but its not my place to judge. That's for someone else to figure out lol
That aside ehh. I remember someone implying I was insane when I wrote that essay about SB's anxiety issues. Because its a children's show. There is no depth right? But that doesn't mean they don't have some nuance. It's just a little thing I wrote for fun. I run this blog for fun and interact with the fandom for fun.
There's nothing so deep like I'm suffering from vitamin c poisoning just because I decided to take pieces of a well established trait of Sponge's personality and decided to write about it. Might as well yell at the writers for adding any kind of depth or relatability to the characters.
But the show wouldn't have been so memorable and successful if the characters were so mindless and empty as they assume it to be.
Idk but that's just one person out of a crowd. A lot of other people enjoyed my piece and had lots to add onto it. So I don't mind. Its all in good fun and I don't really feel like taking this further as a deep or serious cause as a fandom. I think That's the charm of the SB fandom as a whole since this is the only fandom I really ever deeply interacted with. Most of the time I'm just a silent observer.
It being so small makes it comfortable. We watch the show and support it and share what we feel and share what we made in honor of it. It's enough regardless of what outsiders think of it ya kno?
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fandom-blackhole · 3 years
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Hi. So I read what you wrote about your family, and so I'm taking this opportunity to tell you something using the what we feel about you ask. I hope this is okay.
It's quite obvious your family is made up of narcissists. My parents are narcissists too and it took me damn near a decade to realize this + heal from the subconscious traumas they inflicted upon me. What you feel is and will always be valid, regardless of what others may think about it. I hope you continue to speak up for yourself and not doubt your own thoughts/feelings despite how they respond.
I absolutely agree with what you said about being the first born in the family. I'm a middle child myself, but the signs are easy to see and I definitely see it in my big sis. It's hella unfair for the eldest sibling and hella shitty of the parents to put them in that kind of situation. I know maids and nannies and drivers etc aren't always possible, but I personally think that unless a couple can afford hiring proper help to raise a second/third child then they really should stick with just one. When people say it takes a village to raise a child, they weren't fucking kidding. The eldest child should not hold the responsibilities and burdens of a whole damn village.
Oh and your other post about being in your 20s is hard, lonely etc? I get that. I felt it too when I was your age. But now that I'm in my 30s, I can safely say that things absolutely get better. Especially if you could focus on more self-love.
I don't mean going to spas or whatever, it's more about raising your standards on what you will and won't put up with for the sake of your health/feelings/future opportunities etc. It could come in the form of speaking up for yourself more, or staying away from a toxic friend, or not procrastinating, or not giving up on learning new skills. Try to do as many different jobs as you can, network a LOT to get as many mentors as you can (seriously this will change your life), and be careful to not fall in love too deeply. You'll have time for that later. Draw a line (the older/wiser you get, the clearer and stronger this line will be), respect it, and don't compromise. Not even when you think doing so is the nice thing to do.
Sorry if I sound lecture-y, I just see so many girls your age feeling the same way you do and I feel like hugging you all and tell you it'll be okay, ya know?
It'll be okay. Promise.
*HUGS*
🧁Anon
Ok anon, I know with that whole ask meme, I'm not supposed to reply and just post what you sent but I really needed to say thank you.
Things have been really bad lonely wise, but recently everyone here has been so nice and supportive, especially after this weekend's post about my family, and I'm not gonna lie, I'm a person who cries maybe once or twice a year at most, but because of the love and care I've been receiving has me breaking down. I had a mutual, someone I really think of as a good friend message me and say they were proud of me and that killed me, because you know how many times I've been told that? Well let's just say I can count on one hand and that phase is so simple.
Now, as for what you said about my family, my mother i can see being a slight narcissist, my dad is just emotionally constipated because he won't address his own traumas and as a result I've had a harsh stoic ass who I've known to have cried two times: when our dog Marley passed a few months ago and at my younger sister's choir concert when she was singing her solo. Damn I'm ranting again, anyway what I mean to say is yeah they both have a bit of narcissistic tendencies, but I don't think they are fully narcissistic.
And for as I get older things get better, thats what I keep hoping for. The same friend who said they were proud of me also convinced me to give therapy another try, so I'm going to look at what my university has to offer. Fingers crossed it helps this time around.
Thank you again anon, and don't apologize this was really nice to wake up and read and it feels like this was a hug through my askbox, so thank you.
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