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sydcarmyfan · 3 months

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I want it to be a slowburn, but I don’t think I can wait 20+ years

#just kiss please #Betweeen Mariska/Chris and Ayo/Jeremy I don’t know who is trolling us more #when the slowburn is burning slow #sydcarmy #ayo edebiri #jeremy allen white #the bear #law and order svu #christopher storer #dick wolf #bensler #mariska hargitay #chris meloni

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areyoualexander · 3 months

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give the people what they want

(kisses)

#posted: 2024 #fox mulder #dana scully #msr #the x files #david duchovny #gillian anderson #law and order svu #law and order special victims unit #olivia benson #elliot stabler #bensler #mariska hargitay #christopher meloni #dick wolf and chris carter don’t want their respective fandoms to be happy #dick wolf #chris carter #give the people what they want

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veronicamarsconfessions · 1 year

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The Unfortunate Pattern Of TV Shows Lying To Fans

Showrunner Dick Wolf is in hot water this week with fans of Law & Order: SVU on Twitter. Digging into the complaints, the current outcry isn’t really a surprise. Take a ship that’s been working on a slow burn for almost a quarter of a century, add in some bait-and-switch advertising, and you have a perfect storm.

While it’s true that showrunners have the right to run their shows how they see fit – and while fandom teasing is pretty much a staple of the medium – no fan appreciates being lied to. And there is very much a difference between teasing fans and lying to them.

Shippers of Elliot Stabler (Christopher Meloni) and Olivia Benson (Mariska Hargitay) have been hanging in through thick and thin for almost 25 years. Their dedication seemed like it was about to pay off, as promos for the most recent episode teased that this couple might finally – finally – kiss. Ultimately, not only did a kiss not happen but the shot featured in the promo – with Benson caressing Stabler’s face – was cut from the episode entirely.

Things happen in editing shows, and sometimes things get cut. So is this a case of “teasing fans” or lying to them? After almost a quarter of a century, it’s hard not to feel like this isn’t the latter.

Zoey’s Extraordinary Playlist showrunner Austin Winsberg earned the fandom’s ire in the show’s second season when he promised the end of the dreaded love triangle. Only to very much keep the love triangle alive. Now, in this case, this was a case of the showrunner genuinely misunderstanding what “love triangles” mean in fandom spaces. He seems to have interpreted “fans hate love triangles” as “fans hate arcs in which a character can’t or won’t decide between two romantic prospects.”

Failing to realize that “making one choice and then later making another choice, and then later going back to the first choice” is, indeed, being unable to decide. Still, the promise of “no more love triangle” was followed pretty quickly by the return of the love triangle leaving fans feeling intentionally misled.

The case of Zoey’s Extraordinary Playlist is a good argument for shows to have fandom consultants for showrunners who have probably not engaged in fandom spaces the way fans do and thus may mistake how things will be perceived. Winsberg professed the entire problem to have been a massive misunderstanding on his end. Perhaps that’s why fans of the series were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and successfully fought to save the show from premature cancellation.

Veronica Mars showrunner Rob Thomas got into similar trouble for handling the show’s last season. The Logan/Veronica ship (LoVe) had been a major focus of the series and subsequent movie. It was no wonder, then, that they were outraged when the fourth season ended with Logan’s death. Adding insult to injury, Rob Thomas explained the decision by basically saying that Veronica is “boring” when she’s happy in love and not traumatized and that he wanted to completely change the concept of the show moving forward.

Veronica Mars was a particularly special case of showrunners lying to the fan base because of the unusual nature of his salvation. Fans – a large number of them LoVe shippers – had directly been responsible for funding the Kickstarter that got the film sequel to the prematurely canceled series green-lit. Which led to the show’s subsequent pickup on Hulu. And Thomas knew how invested these fans – fans he directly called upon to resurrect his series – were heavily invested in LoVe. There was even an entire series of promos featuring Kristen Bell and Jason Dohring reading LoVe fanfiction leading up to the fourth season.

Teasing fans is a natural thing for shows to do. It keeps fans engaged. It creates buzz. But, as evidenced by Veronica Mars, when fans feel like teasing has become lying, they may not stick around to give the show another chance.

#Veronica Mars #Rob Thomas #Logan Echolls #Law & Order: SVU #Elliot Stabler #Olivia Benson #Elliot x Olivia #Logan x Veronica #Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist #Jason Dohring #Dick Wolf #L&O SVU

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life-set-to-random · 7 months

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Mondo Gecko through the years. 87 cartoon, IDW comics, 2012 TMNT, and Mutant Mayhem.

IDW is my favorite, he’s got a great design, camouflage power, he started out as a Gecko not a human, and he isn’t annoying when he interacts with Mikey. And they stuck to his origins as a quasi bad guy who changed for the better thanks to Michelangelo’s good influence 🧡🐢🦎🛹🎉🎶🗽🍕

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thena0315 · 3 months

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25th Anniversary / 25th Reunion Party

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mistikfir · 1 year

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Law and Order - 22X11 “Second Chance”

#hugh dancy #odelya halevi #hughdancyedit #Nolan Price #samantha maroun #second chance #law and order #dick wolf #ordermake #mistikfiredit

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sylvies-chen · 3 months

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listen it’s been a while since I’ve really flexed my procedural drama muscles and I’ve been out of touch with the dick wolf universe but I am being very serious when I say I want everyone tonight to either use your critical thinking skills to watch this latest episode of law & order and observe the writing decisions or else to not watch it at all.

I say this after having seen it and the completely biased way in which they portray the war in gaza. the writers made active and telling choices. they chose to make the professor in support of palestine a child groomer and brainwasher. that all palestine supporters are planting antisemitic ideas into the minds of children. they are not. (see: my current professor who vehemently supports palestine and is jewish, working for an organization of jewish people asking zionists to not commit these acts in the name of judaism.) they write that palestinian supporters condone murder and violence. they do not. the show positions antisemitism as the epicentre of the war. it is not. this war is not about religious views or antisemitism. it is about a decades long land occupation. it is about mass genocide and apartheid and forced displacement.

what was especially interesting was the arab actress character in the episode who was essentially a vapid pain in their ass by using her platform to “spew hateful nonsense” when in real life this would never happen. in fact, actors and celebrities who are supporting palestine are being fired from major projects and cut from their agencies.

so please keep an open mind and be extremely critical of the way they choose to portray each side in this episode. media representation has always been skewed in many ways. just be mindful.

#dick wolf #nbc #law & order #law and order #wolf entertainment

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wwemcumuscleslover · 1 month

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Just asking for you!

If we have an crossover event between Chicago PD and Law And Order Organized Crime, bring together these two amazing cops in Elliott Stabler and Hank Voight...

We could have a Latin Men who's run a Crime Orgazation, maybe some drugs or art stealers corporations...

And if that man was Brazilian, the actor Wagner Moura seems a good addition to the Dick Wolf Universe

#dick wolf #one chicago #chicago pd #jason beghe #hank voight #sargent hank voight #law and order oc #law and order organized crime #elliot stabler #christopher meloni #detective stabler #wagner moura #latino #latino men #cops #policetvshow

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aries-rising-on-an-aquarius-tide · 1 year

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Now that Kelli has been gone for a bit, I feel like I can get this off my chest: Wolf Productions done fucked up.

Not for the first time, and not right from square one. But gosh, what a waste.

Kelli Giddish's Rollins was the only female character with the depth and acting chops behind her on the show since Cabot was a regular. She showed up and was able to go toe to toe with Mariska in carrying episodes - both personally related to her character, or to cases - not to mention had electric chemistry with Benson (sexual or not, take your pick).

With all the flack that SVU had taken over the years for not having a more diverse cast in regards to sexuality, Amanda was the earliest and best opportunity they had to develop a complex, interesting storyline of an adult woman coming to her sexuality late in life. I am not even necessarily the most ravenous Rolivia Shipper out there, but I'm heartbroken that they took Amanda's character over the years into the most boring, obvious, dissatisfying of directions.

I adored Amanda's wild/problematic side. Her episodes with her fighting with Amaro, dealing with her gambling addiction, shooting her sister's ex, or going rogue undercover are my favorite episodes of basically the last 10 yrs of the show. It was so good to finally have someone in the squad who was easier to relate to in a real-world sense. Someone who went to a Big Girl job in the day, but in the off hours was a mess with a rebellious streak.

It was always my hope that they would turn around the storylines where she seemed to chase men that were purposely bad for her, into a realization that it was because she was more emotionally into women. It fits so perfectly with her childhood, her background, and had ready-made holes in existing canon where they could have written it in with ease. (Pretending to be Liv's gf at the sperm bank, the remarks she makes in the episode Plastic, questioning her second pregnancy, etc.)

Instead, they had Carisi mope after her for years, all through the seasons where she showed no interest in him. I lost 50% of my respect for Carisi when he had that sulking tantrum after she fucked the bartender in Intent (a sexist double-standard btw, which would have never flown with fans if it had been Rollins pouting bc Carisi turned her down), and the other 50% after Carisi became ADA, with the writers seeming to then write him as rather victim-blaming.

The biggest irony, in my opinion, is that Dick Wolf complains that giving the fans EO will make the show too 'soap opera-y,' when what he/they did with Rollisi and Kelli's exit was far and away the most soap opera-esque thing they ever wrote! Fuck off with that obvious shit! Oh, the once-troubled blonde who is now straight as an arrow, rides off into the sunset with the Catholic altar boy and trades her powerful feminist position for a 9-5 (don't come for me, there's nothing wrong w being a professor, that's not the point here) and her two kids. Eat all of my ass, Mr. Cis-het, White, Only-Primetime-Billionaire Wolf. 🙄***

To make matters worse, they specifically brought in a POC actress to play a bisexual character, only to write her out as fast as possible for absolutely no discernable reason!?! The utter waste of what they did with Kat Tamin is an equal travesty. Give me Kat waking up in Amanda's bed. Give me Amanda making pancakes for breakfast and Kat carrying the kids to the table. Give me anything but the bullshit, Caucasian tripe that they sold us with Rollisi!!!

*takes deep breath*

And if - IF - the powers that be couldn't think beyond the end of an average-length cock when it came to Rollins, then for the love of all that is holy: her chemistry with Sergeant Khaldun was 1) vastly more believable 2) hotter 3) more diverse as an overall cast option and 4) less cringeworthily obvious.

I have loved SVU since I was 16 yrs old, and even though I gave up watching it around The People v. Richard Wheatley (for reasons unrelated to this specific rant), I still lurk in the background and keep myself vaguely caught up. But it's getting impossible to defend a lot of the choices they have made in the last three or four years. Good talent is so hard to hang onto these days in H'wood, and Dick Wolf seems just as, if not more, determined to fuck up his show as Chris Carter was in the 90s with TXF.

Thanks for coming to my TED Rant. 😮‍💨✌🏻

- HeartEyes4Mariska

***Not to mention the Barisi Shippers got robbed in the process.

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rodpower78 · 11 months

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What I would say to Dick Wolf and the creative staff about the SVU/OC season finale crossover

#law & order: svu #law & order: organized crime #crossover event #season finale #nbc #spoilers #dick wolf #how fucking dare you #you know what you did #jamie whelan #jet slootmaekers #bobby reyes #sonny carisi #amanda rollins #rollisi #they deserve so much better #mad as hell

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luckydiorxoxo · 8 months

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#IM WEAK #law and order: svu #trump #federal indictment #gop #republican #meme #fulton county #trump indictment #jack smith #dick wolf #fani willis #tik tok working hard #tik tok

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yodeleyewho · 2 months

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#AGGHHHH #miami vice #sonny crockett #don johnson #80s #dick wolf

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victusinveritas · 3 days

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#home design #interior design #interior decorating #dun dun #dick wolf #law and order british home division

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marril96 · 13 days

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Jayne Atkinson in Law & Order 12.20 | Dazzled

#law and order #law & order #lawandorderedit #law&orderedit #dickwolfedit #tvedit #tvedits #claire snyder #jayne atkinson #dick wolf #12x20 #dazzled #my gifs #edit

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imjustwritingg · 2 years

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🔹 Chicago PD Fans Cause Uproar Over Exit of Jesse Lee Soffer🔹

written by yours truly

This certainly isn’t what my first article with @spoilertv was supposed to be, but it is what it is and I couldn’t ignore it.

My take on his exit, its impact on the fandom, and lots of love for Jay Halstead and Upstead. Check it out & let me know what you think in the article comments! 💕

https://www.spoilertv.com/2022/09/chicago-pd-fans-cause-uproar-over-exit.html

#jesse lee soffer #jay halstead #chicago pd #upstead #spoiler tv #my stuff #dick wolf #wolf entertainment #nbc universal #nbc

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thena0315 · 3 months

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