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dekusheroacademia · 1 year
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musical vs manga: Deku vs Muscular (2/2)
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gentrychild · 4 months
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Au where a bystander recorded and uploaded the Deku vs Overhaul fight and the villains are now even more terrified of him than they were of All Might
1 - After AFO being put in Tartarus and All Might's retirement, the criminal world was kinda holding its breath, trying to see which new player would come out of top. Of course, Shigaraki, as AFO's student, and Overhaul, with his neat anti quirk drug, were strong contenders but the green menace recorded for everyone to see made everyone realize that there was a new symbol around and while they do not agree on what kind of symbol he is, the criminal community of Japan does not want to mess with them.
2 - For some strange reason (fear, that's fear), most people at first assume that the one who wiped the floor with Overhaul was a villain. Fearing for Izuku's reputation, some well meaning hero says that no, that's a hero student, the bone breaking quirk from the Sport Festival.
3 - This Has Consequences.
4 - For the villains, the only thing they hear is "That is the kid who beat the crap out of Muscular with his bare hands". For the civilians and pro heroes, they hear "This is kid who went from breaking his own bones to breaking whole neighborhoods in barely a couple of month" and they are... not fearful but kinda wondering how this is possible, only to reach the only logical conclusion; this is All Might's secret lovechild.
5 - This leads both to the criminality dropping to 0 overnight and people kinda side-eying All Might for apparently discovering he had a kid only recently.
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autumnmobile12 · 20 days
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The League of Morons vs A Summer Camp
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All right, so I love the hell out of this nonsense and I want to talk about the Vanguard's plan and how ridiculous it was.
First, most of the crew showed up a night early and…well, then what?  That first night, Dabi says they’re still waiting on a few more people to arrive.  Okay, so what are you all doing here already?
Did Kurogiri warp them back to the bar after they’d gotten a look at the place?  Scouted the area a bit?  You needed seven people for that? Were they that bored waiting for Twice, Compress, and the Nomu to show up?  What were they doing in the 24 hours between this part and the actual attack?  Standing on that cliff and muttering,  “Heroes…”?
Was Toga all, "Guys, I'm tired. Can we go back to the bar already?"
Spinner: "No, as villain protocol dictates, we must stand here menacingly for a minimum of twelve hours."
Dabi: Fuck you, I'm going to bed.
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Except for being a scare tactic, having Dabi start a fire was mostly unnecessary. Their goal was to further weaken society's faith in heroes by targeting UA students, so you'd think he'd be a little more proactive in...well, actually harming someone. As it happened, the fire really only to served to announce there was an attack happening.
But I’ll throw the Vanguard a bone here and say this was Spinner’s doing.  Like their original plan was to start a massive fire that would consume both classes and all the heroes in a singular tragedy, but then Spinner said,  “Hey, pump the breaks, people.  We’re here to uphold Stain’s ideals about toppling the corrupt Hero culture.  Do we really want mass child murder as part of our brand?” Sure, he wanted to go after Iida, but he was a specific target since he was on Stain's hit list.
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The two copies Twice made of Dabi were virtually useless in a fight since Vlad and Aizawa both took him out so quickly it was embarrassing.  And yet he’s apparently a big enough threat that No. 1 and No 2. can’t handle him.  Go fig.
Endeavor/Hawks:  Oh, no, he’s too strong…
Aizawa/Vlad:  Listen here, you little shit!
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Muscular goes and reveals their plan even though he didn’t have to.  They all saw the Sports Festival, they knew what Bakugo looked like, and yet here he is asking Deku where he he can find Bakugo as if he was going to answer him.  Yes, he didn’t think there was any harm in telling him since his plan was to kill Deku anyway, but alerting UA to the fact they were looking to kidnap someone is still just hubris.
Going after Bakugo in the first place was a dumb idea.  We can probably credit that one to Shigaraki because only he would look at the violently temperamental teenager raging on national television and think,  “Yes, he seems like a reasonable person to negotiate with.”
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Gonna drop in some actual light criticism here: Given the inequality issues that arise in the series later, targeting the heteromorph students for recruitment purposes would have been a smarter move for the LoV.  They’re all part of a demographic that has a justified reason for being dissatisfied with society, so there would have been a believable chance of the LoV thinking they could sway some people to their side.
But hey, the League of Villains was on a learning curve. Give 'em a break.
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He totally saw Aoyama here.  Or at least he heard him because he clocked that there was something weird about that bush and he was going to go check it out…and then Twice distracted him and Dabi has an total ADHD moment and forgets what he was doing.
And it's not because Aoyama was the spy. Nobody in the Vanguard knew.
1.) Shigaraki says he tried and couldn't figure out where the camp was, but AFO figured it out relatively quickly. So if even his successor doesn't know who the spy was or called on that resource, then why would AFO tell anyone else in the group?
2.) Moonfish, Muscular, and Mustard were all apprehended, but none of them ratted out Aoyama, as someone with nothing left to lose would. Neither did Kurogiri when he was later apprehended, but that one may have been a loyalty matter. So I think this was a case of AFO saying, "I have a source of info and you don't need to know who it is." Because at the end of the day, AFO is an arrogant narcissist who's definitely not placing all his eggs in one basket. Aoyama wouldn't be an easy spy to replace, so of course AFO would want to limit any chances of him being exposed.
So this was Dabi's screw up.
Speaking of forgetting things, Dabi also straight up forgot they had a Nomu because he thanked Twice for reminding him they had a Nomu.
Sir....how the hell do you forget you have a Nomu?
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Toga was supposed to get blood from at least three people.  She failed.
Twice had a simple job. Create clones. He succeeded, but the only two he made were Dabi and I refer you to the previous point on how useless they were.
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Spinner and Magne’s roles were a diversion. Distract the Wild, Wild Pussycats and give everyone else the opening to find and kidnap Bakugo.
They did pretty well. Up until the point they were almost caught and Kurogiri had to bail them out. Also Spinner lugged the giant, over-the-top blade contraption all the way there only for Deku to destroy it.
However, they do deserve some credit for making probably the best strategic decision of the group that night, and that was taking out Pixie Bob. We saw on the first day of the camp that she was able to hold back a class of twenty students with an army of earth creatures she was simultaneously controlling. That would have been a huge problem, so for the purposes of their team, good on them for removing that obstacle.
Underrated squad members right here.
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Mustard was a legitimate threat for same reasons Dabi and his fire was a threat, plus he brought a firearm into the fight. (I want to know what the other villains thought when they saw that.)
But instead of putting him in the center of the fight where he could do some significant harm, they placed him on the outliers and all he did was knock some students unconscious and everybody made a full physical recovery, showcasing the gas he emitted wasn’t all that lethal and didn't cause any long-term complications. (Again, maybe this was Spinner's idea of Stain's ideology on not indiscriminately massacring children. "Guys, I'm telling you! That's fucked up!")
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The Nomu (effectively brain dead without orders) did more damage than any of them, which makes the previous point that Dabi forgot they had it even funnier.
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And finally, Mr. Compress was missing for half the night and then almost came in clutch by fulfilling their main objective plus extra credit, only to nearly blow it with his showboating. Seriously, they could have gotten away with both Bakugo and Tokoyami had they just booked it while the going was good.
But no, Compress had to make a dramatic production of it. When he first snatched the kids, he could have just left and Deku and company would have had no idea what happened. Had he just kept his mouth shut and left, they wouldn't have known he even existed. Then as the Vanguard members were leaving through the warp gates, he goes and does it again, giving Aoyama enough time to fire at them with his navel laser, something that also could have bee avoided had Dabi just checked the fucking bush!
The Vanguard Action Squad won by sheer dumb luck and their collective incompetence actually succeeding is the most hilarious thing about this arc. In the end, three members of their crew were arrested.  (Although I think everyone was secretly relieved they lost Moonfish.  Even if he was on my side, I’d be actively worried that guy would kill and eat me in my sleep.)
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Yet this self-important twerp is smiling like they actually did something to be proud of here.  All Dabi really accomplished personally was grab a marble (coincidentally the correct marble) before Shouto could, which is borderline more standard older sibling behavior than actual villainy. He literally lost two separate fights in one night and called it a win.
This arc was a five episode Scooby-Doo trap going wrong and succeeding.
Seriously, I hope that after the warp gates closed, they all just looked at each other and immediately started calling each other out on everything. Like Dabi slapped Compress upside the head and asked him what he'd been thinking having 'one last bow' before they got away. Spinner yelling at Dabi about how the clones did nothing. And there's Bakugo all, "I can't believe I've been kidnapped by a gaggle of morons."
Fake it till you make it at its finest.
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epickiya722 · 8 months
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Every time I see someone say they don't find Midoriya interesting, a piece of me just fades away. I know he doesn't look it, but he's batshit crazy. He is a damn wild card.
EVEN BEFORE OBTAINING OFA.
All Might decided to give OFA after seeing this kid do something crazy (running ahead to save Bakugou from the Sludge Villain... defenseless).
After that, for training, what does Midoriya do?
CLEAN A BEACH!! Keep in mind, he is just a scrawny kid. And then one morning, he just decides "I'm about to do something wild".
He climbs up a pile of trash, and just screams into oblivion with a war cry, shirtless just as the sun is rising.
That's just the beginning!
Kid has punched a robot the size of a building, attempts to fight an obviously dangerous villain with broken bones.
Later during the Sports Festival, he manages to make a new friend with Icy-Hot Princey boy who holds a grudge (I mean rightfully so, but this ain't about him) by breaking his bones and screaming at him and could have got himself killed in doing so. Oh wait! Rewind! Before that, Midoriya goes through an obstacle course race without using his quirk and just being calculating.
AND GETS FIRST PLACE before kids with quirks that can boost their speed!!
After that arc, he faces a whole serial killer!! He gets told not to run off and guess what? He does it anyways!
You know what, let me just list things he is and has done the best way I can because when I say this kid is not what he seems, he is not what he seems.
Doesn't listen, "I do what I want because it's right even though I'll get yelled at for it". Okay, this kid is impulsive sometimes.
Puts up with Bakugou and calls this explosive kid "Kacchan". Who in the hell gives that boom-boom gremlin a cutesy nickname and not once get told to stop using it? Midoriya damn Izuku, that's who.
Wears t-shirts that says other pieces of clothing like "blouse" and "tank top". WHERE DID HE GET THEM?!
Can mimic All Might's face and voice!
Has to be told to keep his emotions in check because they affect OFA, his strongest emotion being anger. And when he's angry, just beg for mercy. Just get on your knees and hope he doesn't break your face or something and embarrasses you. (Muscular got it twice as he deserves!)
Faced an ASSASSIN.
Somehow managed to still move like it's nothing after being shocked by KAMINARI and after that, headbutting through Todoroki's ice wall (by accident). (Class 1A VS Deku fight)
Midoriya is intelligent, he's observant. He's able to work how the function of someone's quirk just by watching. He was able to figure out how Stain's quirk worked and how he's using it. Stain, the Hero Killer.
On that note, he uses his knowledge to incorporate that in his own moves and how he can work with OFA. Midoriya is creative.
Even though he knows the risks, he sometimes pushes his body to the limit and breaks his bones and sometimes still wants to fight despite his body being damaged at that time.
Tried to talk down Dabi the same way as he did with Todoroki and honestly, he deserves some credit for that. It didn't worked, but he tried talking to DABI. Dabi is something else.
There's probably more I missed, but I'm just saying Midoriya Izuku is just more than that sweet round freckled face. And you wouldn't think with that face he would have the body he does. He used to be a scrawny kid. But now? He is a pint-sized powerhouse!
Do not take him lightly. He needs to come with a warning label!
Look, if he's boring to you, fine. I don't care. Didn't write this post to convince you.
I wrote this post to express just how I feel about him.
I know some people are put off by him because "he's the protagonist, he gets a lot of the spotlight".
But that's not stopping me. I mean, Miruko is my number one tied with Midoriya and she shares a lot less focus than he does! To me, a character doesn't have to be minor or a major one to be liked. I look past that role and see their other qualities and in the case of Midoriya, I like his qualities enough for him to be an interesting character to me.
Which is rare for me because my favorites often be the minor characters, characters that don't get as much screen time and aren't as popular. Even for BNHA! A lot of my favorites are characters that haven't spoken in the manga since forever!
(For goodness' sake, I know I'll sound salty for this and I do adore the other characters! The Todoroki's got a whole arc and even an origin to how their whole mess started dating back to when Enji and Rei met! And we still don't know Midoriya’s dad whereabouts! WE KNOW HAWKS' BACKSTORY!! AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT HISASHI LOOKS LIKE!! Midoriya barely has had focus for how many chapters this whole ongoing war arc now? Just saying, even though there's a lot of characters, let's not act as if Midoriya gets the spotlight all the time.)
That's just me now.
(Don't even reblog and say something like "Okay, I see your point, OP, but I still think he's boring." Or argue why he's boring to you. Don't even come into my inbox with all that. Again, I do not care.)
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itsnothingofinterest · 9 months
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You know what? I actually like All might's chances for this fight.
I know first instinct is probably to think All Might stands little chance with just a gimmicky robo suit in place of replace One For All; but when you think about it, One For All wasn't the end-all-be-all that made All Might, All Might. Under his control, all OFA did was provide strength; and while that strength was incredible, it was matched by Muscular or Machia. And were they really on All Might's level? Not particularly. The strength is replicable, and everything else about All Might is still Toshinori's; so he's frankly close to at least Kamino level here. And that's without counting the student-inspired gadgets.
Meanwhile, while AFO is technically indestructible rn; he's only got like, what are we thinking, 15~20 years of Time-HP (AgeP?) left before he's turned into nothing? I think All Might can handle that.
And even from a meta perspective; I know a lot of people are thinking AFO's got to get to UA to get rejected by Shigaraki and beat by Deku but...both of those have kind of already happened. The one benefit of 2 AFO's in this war. Besides maybe getting his quirks stolen by Tomura and being left helpless for the irony points, there's not much new for AFO to do over there...meaning there's not much reason not to get his butt handed to him by All Might for the third time in a row here.
Of course I think my preferred outcome is that they both get warped over to UA so we can get an All Might & Deku vs AFO vs Shigaraki match going, because I think that'd be cool and would have a lot of potential for character interactions. But taking the fight as it is, I'd honestly put my money on All Might here.
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There's something so fcked up about Bakugo being a hero AND one of the main characters with his nasty attitude and that bullying he never fully grew out of.
It really sends the wrong message, if you think about it, to anybody that may be in a toxic relationship that resembles that of Bakugou and Deku. As a kid I used to be absolute garbage with this one other kid, and watching BNHA at that time made me believe I was right and validated my behavior, since "this hero was also like that and he never got any consequences, so why should I??" Not the best message to give a kid with behavioral issues 💀💀💀💀
Thankfully I got help, stopped being a d*ck, grew out of it, and started giving steps to mend our relationship (and thankfully the other person was open and receptive to that), but BNHA sure as hell didn't help make me realize that what I was doing was wrong.
I legit thought—I'm not kidding—'he's a hero and he's doing the same stuff as me, so he must be in the right. And nobody ever says anything to him/calls him out on it, so that's just proving my point (that he's right)'. It was. Yeah. 💀
TLDR; Bakugou you're awful and I hate you with all my heart
First off, I’m really happy about your self growth 😊. I wish you the best 🙌
Secondly, I 100% agree. Katsuki sends awful messages to viewers. Let’s look at all the “consequences” he received for his behavior:
Suicide baiting Izuku: nothing. Even though his own goons call him out on it, nothing happens and it’s completely hand waved away.
Kicking that water bottle and getting trapped by a sludge villain: how the hell was he supposed to know that a stupid bottle had a villain inside of it? And that wasn’t even him doing anything wrong.
Sabotaging Izuku’s score on the Quirk Apprehension Test: nothing.
Nearly killing Izuku in the first battle trial: only told to grow up, but is also complimented.
Savagely beating Ochako: heroes call him out, but then “Mr. Always Right” Shota makes them look like fools despite them being right.
Being chained in the Sports Festival: Caused by his behavior, but the fact it leads the villains to want to kidnap him isn’t his fault as they thought he was victimized by society. Also who the hell chains up a child? I believe he should be locked behind bars, but U.A isn’t a prison and he was only chained cause he was being violent, not for his other behavior.
Getting less offers than Shoto: still gets to work with the Number 4 Hero.
Smacking Izuku and trying to fight All Might on his own: still passes the exam despite getting his shit rocked. Hanta meanwhile fails despite doing far more in his fight.
Being a dumbass and rushing the villains, which leads to his kidnapping: Again, not his fault he was kidnapped and even if he played it safe, there was a good chance he would’ve been kidnapped anyways. After all, the LoV had powerhouses such as Moonfish (who was kicking his ass), Muscular (who’s strong enough to eat blows from OFA), Dabi (who has flames hotter than Endeavor), and Twice (who can clone anyone he touches. He most likely would’ve been kidnapped anyways, but his dumbass didn’t make anything easier.
Failing his Hero License Exam: isn’t alone in that plus he gets it in like a month anyways. He even gets praised by the test scorers several times and gets to show off his fake growth.
Kacchan vs Deku 2: Katsuki gets put on house arrest, but so does Izuku, ya know, the person he dragged out to fight. Not only that, but he also misses out on getting stomped by Mirio AND gets to be a part of Izuku’s secret.
Stabbing Izuku with his costume to the point of brain matter flowing out of him: no one calls him out. It’s played as a “haha” moment.
Him completely misunderstanding Izuku when he went solo and delivering that horrid speech before apologizing: narrative makes him out to be in the right.
Such consequences are basically non-existent or aren’t a direct result of Katsuki’s behavior. As you mentioned yourself, if anything, Katsuki’s behavior ends up being validated, which in turn leaves other people to believe their behavior is validated. It’s a sickening message in a story about heroes.
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simonegagliano · 1 year
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~DEKU VS MUSCULAR~
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class1akids · 1 year
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how could the villain hunt arc gone better in your opinion?
Deku having a more honest reflection on the nuances of redeemability of villains - instead of Muscular (bad villain) and Nagant (good villain) dichotomy. (This is why I think a Hawks-corruption arc would have worked better)
Deku having more struggle with his new quirks. I especially had high hopes for Danger Sense driving him to the exhaustion point (which I guess it's sort of, kind of implied, but him not being able to turn it off could have worked really interestingly in tandem with his saviour complex)
The harm the civilians suffered getting more fleshed out - like making Shigaraki's destruction hit Deku beyond how it affected him personally (some people getting hurt but nobody dying)
In this context, the win vs save should have been better argued - showing the stakes of the "saving approach" and 2nd digging his heels in on how this is OFA's last shot to take down AFO. I think you can make compelling arguments to both sides and Deku being in the middle of it should have been more active in winning over the vestiges rather than having Yoichi handing it to him on a silver platter
Could have fleshed out the mutant discrimination better - not just through furry girl, but also seeing Shoji, Tokoyami, Kouda etc. be insulted / attacked in the evacuation camp or while doing hero work
The Class A side of the story deserved more - we should have seen the heroes retiring through the kids' eyes, feel their grief, their frustration at being benched and doing something against it (like maybe a clue / hint for the Pussycat training)
The Todo-fam drama absolutely should have been shown from Shouto's POV - again him getting dissed by the media (similarly to the Bakugou kidnapping) or getting the civilians be negative towards him would have set up the Return to UA and bath chapters better
A little "My evacuation academia" so the civilians who protest Deku's return are not faceless strawmen, but we get a sense of what they lost.
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butterflygon · 6 months
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Deku vs Muscular (round 1), Pokemon style. I'm posting both the new version and the older one, where Muscular was a Buzzwole. I made him a Conkeldurr now not just because Buzzwole is a total bitch to draw, but also because I thought Conkeldurr made more sense for the specific setting I'm envisioning this AU in, and Ultra Beasts would be difficult to justify being present. Also, he looks a hell of a lot more menacing when he can make his deranged smiles.
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kitsunefyuu · 1 year
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Yooo might just be me but getting weird Deku Vs Muscular vibes from this panel.
Also Tokoyami being giant darkness is actually pretty cool as heck. Enough to make me go yeah that can do it.
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dekusheroacademia · 1 year
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musical vs manga: Deku vs Muscular (1/2)
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Realised, I’ve never done this post and with the Manga being on break (right after Tomura pulled his fun little stunt) I figured, why the hell not. Predictions on Kai Chisaki’s future plot relevance and backstory:
‘Cause while I can indeed never stop malding about the fact that Hori brought my blorbo back but didn’t follow up on it, I actually have genuine reason to believe that his backstory will become relevant in the upcoming confrontation.
Why is that? Well, essentially because of the conversation Deku had with the former OFA users’ vestiges. In the conversation he reveals that while fighting Tomura he saw that on the inside there was a part that needed saving and that thus he wanted to help him. He is still pursuing that goal in canon right now.
However, more importantly to my point is that Deku continues that thought process further and explains that he’s realised he fought many villains in the past but never explored their motivations. [ch 305]
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The villains depicted here specifically are Muscular, Stain, Gentle Criminal and La Brava, and finally Overhaul. In the following chapters all of them have made an appearance thus far and the readers got more of a glance into this underlying motivation Deku is addressing here.
Muscular has directly fought Deku and pressed that he simply was motivated by a desire for violence and there wasn’t more to it. [ch 307+308]
Stain on the other hand aided the heroes by providing them information from his stay in Tartarus and also gave Yagi a personal pep talk to remind him of what is truly inspiring about All Might. [ch 326]
Gentle Criminal and LaBrava had their moment very recently, with Gentle experiencing a change of heart in face of the mass-breakout disaster and the two of them actively deciding to fight on the hero's side in the war. [ch. 378+379]
Chisaki has also made an appearance, albeit in a remarkably broken and mentally dissociative state. We learn a little about him. Mainly that he’s given up on his ambitions, that he cares little for revenge and that his mind is now obsessed with nothing but the idea of returning to the boss and apologising to him. He even got to meet Deku who demands for Chiaki to extend his need to apologise to Eri. [ch 315+316]
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Chisaki speaking to Eri, perhaps even apologising to her, is a huge deal for both of their characters. It puts the conclusion of the Overhaul arc into a whole new perspective, and could serve a lot of purposes such as providing closure for Eri, or addressing the developments both have gone through since last seeing each other ( For example, how Eri has grown more confident, while in contrast Overhaul rapidly deteriorated. ).
However so far, none of this has happened. The storythread was left on a cliffhanger and I would assume that Hori is keenly aware of this.
In conclusion the big “Deku explores Chisaki’s secret motivation” event is most likely still coming, and my guess is that is most likely around the time he apologises to Eri, or tries to at least. And there is a lot to unpack, as I have previously already pointed out. To this day there is essentially nothing we know about Kai’s origin;
Why was he abandoned as a child on the streets?
Why he hates quirks so passionately.
Why he appears to hate his own name.
But why is this relevant to the future plot? Well, now we come to the speculatory part. From what I am seeing, the Manga points in one direction; that the encounter of Chisaki attempting to apologise to Eri, along with Chisaki’s backstory, will be retold in a flashback during the Tomura VS Deku fight. Because some part of the experience Deku has made there will help him get through to Tomura as Chisaki’s childhood backstory leads back to All For One.
( Yes, bemoan it together with me. “ Why does almost every villain origin story in mha have to relate back to All For One? “ I hate it but I suppose it comes with the territory. )
The reason why I believe All For One is involved is greatly due to this one image:
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When it was revealed in Chapter 350, that Dabi had in fact been saved from dying by All For One who wanted to use him, we were given an exclusive glimpse into this facility. Ujiko described it to be a place where AFO kept backup children to replace Tenko/Tomura just in case. As the image above shows, the facility has a more than striking similarity to a place Chisaki was shown to have been in as a child. [ch 158] About the Chisaki panel we had never been given any context; whether it was set before or after Chisaki had joined the Yakuza, or where it was set. However it was strongly implied that it was around that time that he learnt about the theory of quirks being considered a sickness, which became ingrained in his motivation and his entire character.
Considering these two much too similar looking settings, we can assume that most likely Kai formerly had been a child under the clutches of All For One.
Now, for those of you who’ve heard of the theory that Chisaki was there at the same time as Touya, I will quickly clarify that this is not possible without time travel. Chisaki is several years older than Touya, who was apparently around 18 at the time he woke up in that facility. That would mean Chisaki was in his twenties, and thus it only happened many many years after he’d joined the Yakuza. After all, the boss had picked him up when he was still a child.
However, I want to continue this thought of age to remind further; Chisaki is in fact also 7 years older than Tenko. Looking at the child the boss had picked up from the streets, I believe it is safe to say he was not much older than 7 years old, which would mean he was in All For One’s clutch even before Tenko was born. In conclusion this would make young Kai not just a potential backup for Tomura Shigaraki, but rather a child intended for the position even before Tenko was part of the equation. This is my currently standing theory.
This of course all just speculation, but it certainly wouldn’t be beyond AFO to suggest to a child that quirks are a curse upon humanity in order to manipulate him, and it certainly wouldn’t come as a surprise that Kai had grown up in such a toxic environment previously to joining the Yakuza. Going back to narrative purpose, the experiences he would have had in that case would also certainly provide Deku a unique insight to help him understand how to help Tenko/Tomura and how to defeat AFO.
Considering all this I want to close by pointing out a small tidbit from the start of the Overhaul arc [ ch 125 ] that gets a rather different tone in this context. During their first meeting with Overhaul, Tomura tells the league of villains that All For One had in fact already talked to him about this particular Yakuza, as though he was giving a warning. It is a little strange considering how they also talk in length about how the Yakuza have fallen out of relevancy. Even Overhaul himself admits that he struggled to finance himself because of how little people took them seriously.
So why would All For One of all people pay attention to a “little Yakuza throwback”? That is unless he had a bit more of a personal history with Kai Chisaki.
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zinogirl · 2 months
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Ignoring the genuine, legitimate harmful problems with MHA, like the copaganda, underlying eugenics, and misogyny
MHA as a story, at least in the early era, is written in a way that does NOT respect its audience, or itself, at all.
The series has a habit of overexplaining obvious things; for example in All Mights fight against AFO, the dude with jet feet was essentially giving beside the ring commentary and explanation, like a wrestling commentator. Really annoys me the bit where Toshinori switches from his right to his left, and Jet feet goes "He moved the power is his right arm to his left, he used his right arm as bait!" as if it wasn't extremely obvious that that was what happened.
The series also has a habit of writing itself into corners, and having to plot armor the protagonist out of them (Deku vs Muscular, OFA 1,000,000%)
This is for the early arcs, I don't know or care if it's changed in recent times.
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stellamancer · 7 months
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so, i might have said this somewhere at some point before, but had i not seen the deku vs. muscular fight FIRST before anything else in bnha then i would have probably been a shouto girlie.
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kagayguri · 1 year
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Top 5 mha fights 😎
Let’s see(not ranked)
1- the one with stain
2- the muscular guy one
3-TAMAKI VS ANYONE TBH
4- SHIGARAKI VS DEKU YESYEYSES
5- overhaul one
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anti-katsuki-lounge · 2 years
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The Deku vs Kacchan rematch was absolute garbage. I refuse to believe that Bakugo is stronger than Izuku when the broccoli boy fights a new villain/criminal every other week, all of which have more combat experience, versatile abilities, and battle IQ than Katsuki ”I’ll just explode my way through battles” Bakugo.
Not to mention, these are adults and Bakugo is a teenager just like Izuku. But out of the two, Izuku has experience fighting people who are much stronger and older than he is. Meanwhile all Bakugo does is fight people weaker than him, those who couldn’t fight back, and those who didn’t want to fight, and got he dumbass captured during the training camp. I can 10000% guarantee that if it was Izuku in that position, he would have whooped their asses before they could capture him if his arms weren’t broken.
Sorry for this long rant, but it never made sense to me how Izuku has more combat experience and yet is weaker than this insult to bombs everywhere. The only explanation I can think of is that Izuku let him win because let’s not forget that he didn’t want to fight in the first place and tried to resolve the conflict like a rational human being unlike that raging dog who deserves a chain as a leash. 🙄
I agree 100%. Katsuki shouldn’t have won that fight. Even with only 5%, Izuku’s faster than Katsuki, knows how he fights, and should’ve knocked him out. Izuku almost defeated him quirkless, so 5% should’ve easily split the gap. Sadly once again Hori can’t have him lose. Plus, despite what the manga tells us, Katsuki’s fighting style’s bare bones, only occasionally whipping out something due to his immense plot armor. And yeah, there’s no way you’re going to tell me that Katsuki can defeat Muscular, who was Izuku’s toughest villain up to that point. Katsuki would get stomped and wouldn’t even dent him. Gentle would theoretically defeat him too, having a quirk that counters his and having a quick mind. Also, Izuku was the only one to land a solid hit on All Might. Did it do anything? Not really, but Katsuki couldn’t do that, which should show that Izuku surpassed him, but again, Hori’s BakuBoner.
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