#daisy Fitzroy

[deco-devolution]

When you forced deep underground, well -- you see things from the bottom up. And down at the bottom of the city, I saw a fire burning.

#mine #bioshock #bioshock infinite #daisy fitzroy

[rapturesbest]

And don’t be coming in here with that bullshit. Daisy Fitzroy is my wife and has never done anything wrong ever.

#bioshock #bioshock meme #bioshock infinite #elizabeth comstock #Daisy Fitzroy #my wife

[lulu2992]

Speaking of BioShock Infinite, have I ever told you about that time I made a timeline of the BioShock series?

Tumblr made the image smaller so I’ve uploaded the original here :)

It’s far from being exhaustive because the reason I drew this in the first place was to make sure I really understood Infinite (the ending, especially) and Burial at Sea, so only the most significant and/or pivotal events are featured here. I later added some stuff from the other two games and the Minerva’s Den DLC after playing them. However, the novel BioShock: Rapture isn’t included because I haven’t read it (and it seems it’s generally not considered canon anyway).

I made this 8 years ago (with Paint, haha) but very recently translated it and made some adjustments so I could post it! I didn’t check everything I wrote because it’s been a while since I’ve really thought about the lore of BioShock, so I decided to trust my 2015 self and assume she knew what she was doing :’)

#2015 lulu was too insecure to show this to anyone #look me we finally did it 🫂 #feel free to correct this or ask questions! #bioshock #bioshock 2 #minerva’s den #bioshock infinite #burial at sea #the canonicity of 2 is debatable partly because the original creator wasn’t involved #but I still like it and it’s a bioshock game so I’ve included it #that said ken levine himself retconned many things so yeah #booker dewitt #elizabeth comstock #anna dewitt #zachary comstock #rosalind lutece #robert lutece #daisy fitzroy #chen lin #andrew ryan #jack ryan #eleanor lamb #subject delta #sofia lamb #subject sigma #brigid tenenbaum #grace holloway #stanley poole #gilbert alexander

[something-in-the-seas]

I make art sometimes, but not today.

#bioshock #bas critical #booker dewitt #elizabeth comstock #frank fontaine #robert lutece #rosalind lutece #andrew ryan #sander cohen #yi suchong #jack wynand #daisy fitzroy

[v1vid]

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I played BioShock Infinite again last week. It's a painfully beautiful game, always. I almost cried the moment I met -MY BELOVED PRECIOUS- Elizabeth again🥲 I just want to give her all the love and happiness of the infinite universe.

p.s.

Whenever Fink came out in the game, it reminded me of Sinclair a lot. They are sober, hard-nosed but humorous businessmen and have no interest in the city ideology or religion. But at the same time, they are very different.

#bioshock #bioshock 2 #my art #elizabeth comstock #jack ryan #jack wynand #eleanor lamb #augustus sinclair #jeremiah fink #booker dewitt #daisy fitzroy #bioshock infinite #vivid_tiny one

[heartfulsweetn]

i was thinking abt how badly poc bioshock characters are written and now i want to kill ken levine like a rabid gorilla

#queer and disabled #not a drawing #not art #bioshock #yi suchong #daisy fitzroy #bioshock infinite #IM SO FUCKING ANGRY #daisy ill save u #they dont deserve u

[fanonical]

look, i know ranting about bioshock infinite is old hat at this point, but i was thinking about this lately and wanted to get this off my chest

there's a point in the game where the game's 'both sides' approach to racism reaches its nadir, and it's the end of the finkton level

fink is a character running a company town, horribly exploiting his workers (all minorities) and creating shanty towns for them to live in. at the end of this level, black revolutionary leader daisy fitzroy wants to murder him to stop all of that from happening. she does! and she also threatens a kid

this kid comes right the fuck out of nowhere. there's no indication of who this kid is, where he came from - he doesn't even have a unique character model. daisy says he's fink's son, which isn't something that's ever established all through this level which serves the purpose of telling you about fink, and that's why she wants to kill this kid. she then gets unceremoniously killed by elizabeth as a coming of age thing. the kid vanishes

this kid literally only exists because otherwise, daisy would seem too sympathetic. the entire level exists to tell you how evil fink is, then at the end pulls this 'but daisy wants to kill this kid for no reason BOTH SIDES ARE BAD' bullshit. because otherwise, any non-fascist player will be on daisy's side in an instant. it's shitty, shitty writing and it's so transparently racist

#Bioshock #Bioshock Infinite #Jeremiah Fink #Daisy Fitzroy

[meet-you-at-the-cemetery-gates]

James Ironwood from RWBY did nothing wrong

Daisy Fitzroy from Bioshock Infinite did nothing wrong

Ulysses from Fallout New Vegas did nothing wrong

Y'all just hate to girlbosses winning tbh

#bioshock infinite #rwby #fallout new vegas #james ironwood #ironwood #daisy fitzroy #fnv ulysses #ulysses #ulysses fallout #ulysses fnv

[alpaca-clouds]

Revolution in the Media

The Mageseeker game is coming out in two days – and I kinda want to talk about it. About Sylas and about Demacia. Because holy fuck, I hate the Demacia storyline in League of Legends. Like, some of the other storylines have their faults (big faults at time, let’s face it, the entire Noxus thing is not that much better), but Demacia? Demacia will tell you: “Are Nazis really so much worse than the people fighting against them?”

And this is… sadly a problem that American media has in general. Especially during the last… ten or so years. And I want to talk about it.

The Demacia Storyline

Other folks have talked about this before, but let me make this once again clear: The Demacian regime in League of Legends is fascist. Let’s face it. It is basically fascist. They have literal concentration camps, have an underclass, who are held in those concentration camps just for the way they have been born… And if we were going through Ecco’s “traits of ur-fascism” we would find a lot of the traits in Demacia one way or another.

In itself it would not be a problem. A lot of media does have fascist bad guys, but of course League of Legends does not have Demacia as the bad guys. Instead, well, we have several champions in the storyline, who can be played by the players of the main game. And who of course do not want to be reminded of “You are playing the bad guy”. So, all characters within the Demacia storyline are treated the same. Sylas is as good and as bad as Garen.

This is something we have seen especially in the entire Lux comic. Which so clearly shows Sylas as bad and manipulative and you should not side with him within the story, that so clearly says: “The only good side in this is neither.”

And just… No. For one: Sylas is the victim of the Demacian regime. A victim who managed to escape what is effectively a concentration camp. He is a rebel, who tries to bring the regime down. No, he is not as bad as the Demacians. Him killing the king and rebelling the way he is, is basically the same, as a Jew escaping a Nazi concentration camp and then going on to kill Hitler.

This is not a case of “good people on both sides”, but a case of “fascists on one side, those who fight them on the other”. There is no equivalence.

But of course this is not the first time – and probably not the last time – this happens in American media.

The Daisy Fitzroy thing

Remember Bioshock Infinite? That third Bioshock game, that was quite different than the other two that had come before?

Now, let’s put it bluntly: Bioshock has always kinda suffered moral relativism. The old games basically go like: “Laissez-faire Objectivist Capitalism is bad, but the other alternatives are not that much better (if at all!)” Which is just blatantly wrong, though obviously it is just a very American way about depicting it, given that… well, we know how Americans cling to their “freedom economics” and it being the “only right economic system”. Because Freedom!

But then… Well, then came Bioshock Infinite. Instead of in Rapture, we play in Columbia. A religious pseudo-fascist place, with a regime that is build very much on the suppression of BI_POC, especially Black and Irish people, who are used as a servant class and outright slaves. Obviously with a lot of iconography mirroring the South under slavery and later Jim Crow.

In that game, we have a group of rebels, though. The Vox Populi. Rebels fighting against the system, which to the credit of the maker is shown to be unquestioningly bad. The rebels are under the lead of a Black woman named Daisy Fitzroy, who gets involved with the protagonist, by forcing him to get her weapons to fight the regime… But then comes the big twist, when Daisy Fitzroy tries to kill a kid of the oppressing class and your NPC companion Elizabeth kills Daisy Fitzroy in turn. After which you are going to fight the Vox Populi as much as the folks of the regime, with the only difference between the enemy types being the color schemes.

In that moment, when Daisy Fitzroy tries to kill the white kid, the game is taking your hand and pointing at her: “See, people fighting against white supremacy are just as bad as the white supremacists themselves! Don’t you agree?” Which is, of course… like a really bad conclusion to draw from it.

Because, let’s be very clear: Even if she had killed that child… Someone trying to free themselves from oppression through radical means will never be as bad as the oppressor, who did the same horrible acts without any reason other than “you look different, hence you are less human than me and I can treat you that way”.

But, of course, there is another screaming example of this…

The MCU and the faulty status quo

Honestly, to me right now there is no bigger offender in this than the MCU and within the MCU there is no offender as bad as The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

Now, let me preface this with: Yes, as much as I love Black Panther, that movie very much is very much at fault for this, too. At fault for the entire: “Oh, yeah, the guy who wants to do something about systemic racism is as bad if not worse than systemic racism.” But at least that movie ended on a change to the faulty status quo. (A change, mind you, that was undone by later installments of the MCU because the MCU just cannot have the status quo change too much, obviously.) It also clearly came down on the side of “the thing the good guys fought for originally was real bad”, with T’Challa outright confronting his ancestors on it.

No such thing, however, happened in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, which obviously features our main characters going up against first and foremost the Flagsmashers. And now lets be very clear: The Flagsmashers are anarchists! Which is very much on the very tailend of “wanting to change the status quo”. (Note: I am an anarchist.) Their reasoning is a good one, though. They say: “Yeah. The entire Snap made it that people could move without borders. That was good. Now we are displaced and the organization that is supposed to take care of our needs cares more about enriching themselves than making other lives livable.” Which is something that is actually shown to be right. We know they are right.

Now, for once, of course, the entire thing with them turning towards violence comes kinda out of nowhere and is not really set up. But… We also need to talk about how violence is a valid means of fighting an oppressive system. And this system is very much oppressive. Again: The series SHOWS US THAT IT IS! That people oppressed in this system die of neglect! The system, as it stands, is a form of oppressive violence. That it kills through neglect rather than through active means does not make the killings less horrible or less deadly.

Yet, the Flagsmashers all die in the end. All those, who were enriching themselves through the system get no narrative punishment, with Falcon (now Captain America) holding them a nice speech. And the literal fascist getting a last minute redemption arc.

And that is just… horrible. I cannot put it any other way. It is horrible. It is a horrible end for that story.

The myth about the peaceful revolution

What all of this calls back upon is the myth about the peaceful revolution. The myth, that a peaceful revolution will be the only successful revolution and that violent revolutions are destined to fail and are – in fact – as bad the oppression they fight against. This, obviously, does completely ignore the fact that… most revolutions that were successful were either violent or had a violent revolutionary group cooperate with a peaceful revolutionary group. Just that again and again the violent groups will get erased from history.

The example most probably know about, is the Black Panthers, who served as an aligned group to MLK’s peaceful civil rights movement. Here, too, it often gets erased that the Black Panthers were closely aligned with MLK and were not a completely different group. Just as it is often erased from history, how the Black Panthers for example also helped feed and educate other underserved communities, including the poor white people.

We see the same again and again in the way we speak about history. A good example is decolonization (a process, mind you, that long has not ended). We kinda never go into how that happened. The usual narrative is: “Oh, yeah, western forces realized it was bad, so decolonialization happened.” Maybe we are talking about Ghandi, the peaceful revolutionary in India, and maybe we actually get told: “After WWII the western forces had no money left to uphold colonialism.” But, oh, what is that? No money left? But wasn’t one of the main things about colonialism that it was meant to extract value from the colonies? So should this not be a reason to hold up colonialism?

Yeah, no. Because here is the thing. In almost all colonies there were constant violent revolutions happening. And those had to be fought down with military power. Which was a costly endeavor. So costly, in fact, that in the end the colonies cost the western forces more money, than it brought them. But again, this gets erased from history. (Let’s face it, we do not speak about the ills of colonialism enough either way.)

But they (those who hold power) want us all to believe that it happened all through peaceful means. Because this way, we do believe that we, too, should rebel peacefully against the system that oppresses us and that destroys our environment. To put it frankly: They would not allow a form of protest, that actually worked.

And media? Well, media serves to uphold this myth as well. By telling us again and again that those rebelling and revolting through violent means are as bad, as those who uphold an oppressive and often directly or indirectly violent regime.

We need to make better Media

Something I see this in as well, is the reception of media and the lack of understanding of tropes and storylines, that might put you into the shoes of violent revolutionaries, who end up harming some innocent bystanders as well – at times a lot of them. Heck, even those trying to change the system that has oppressed them in a way that they are no longer oppressed, without a care for others get often judged as harshly, if not harsher, than the actual oppressors.

My two main fandoms are kinda an example of this. Both Arcane and Castlevania has this issue.

In Arcane the main issue is, that we have an obvious example of oppression of the poor. Piltover oppresses Zaun. And while the series kinda shows this, it also asks us to be very much on the side of Zaun, given that from the main characters only Ekko is exclusively aligned with Zaun, while everyone else is either at least partly aligned with Piltover or a bad guy. And sure, we do see that under Silco the poor suffer even more because of how he pushes his drugs. But… Well, he originally was a revolutionary and while Vander has given up the revolution he is the one to fight for Zaun independence, but yet… He is very much the bad guy, other than all those other characters who uphold the oppression. Which is… Not good.

I talked about the issue in Castlevania once again. Isaac. Here the issue is not as much with how the series is written, because for once the series actually has a somewhat good and understanding take. But… fandom has the issue here. Now, Isaac has been enslaved before. He ran away, after which he again and again was attacked and assaulted for either the color of his skin (this is after all the time that the first Europeans came up with the idea that Black people are less human than white people) or his religion. Given that this was all he had ever known, he at some point decided that it was how humanity had been – and hence that humanity should be extinguished. Which, if you have just a droplet of empathy, is kind of understandable. Not right, mind you, but understandable. Yet, a lot of folks have a lot more empathy for either Dracula or Hector, who partook in the genocide as much as Isaac did, than they have for Isaac.

This really… Is just not a good look.

And of course, all of this we see again and again in real life. Not only from the fascists themselves, who will claim there were “good people on both sides”, but even from more left-leaning folks. When marginalized folks get angry with their oppressors, they quickly get labeled as “as bad” as the oppressors. See Tone Policing. As a trans person I have been told several times by people, who identify as “left leaning”, that I am as bad as JKR and her posy, because I say that folks who support Rowling and her conservative fantasy shit are not really leftist and are definitely not queer allies.

So, yeah. Really. Fuck this thinking. Threating oppressed people rising up as the same as the oppressors is just shitty. And I just wish media finally let go of this shitty trope.

#League of Legends #MCU #marvel cinematic universe #marvel mcu #falcon and the winter soldier #flag smashers #sylas league of legends #demacia #revolution #oppression #antifascism #arcane #arcane league of legends #silco #Bioshock #bioshock infinite #daisy fitzroy #castlevania #castlevania netflix #castlevania isaac

[mighty-meerkat]

out of all the video game to tv series adaptations, a bioshock infinite one is going to provoke the most discourse across the aisle, partly because holy shit, the vox populi storyline has not aged well if it was ever good in the first place, and partly because even if they don't change a line of elizabeth's dialogue i guarantee you the same culture war youtube critics that think she's their perfect buxom waifu will suddenly be screaming about the woke feminist agenda making all women mary sues

#bioshock infinite #daisy fitzroy #elizabeth comstock #i honestly think you'd have to walk such a fine line with daisy #like i think you'd have to make it a lot clearer that she regards revolution as a necessary evil #and something to be avoided and not glorified if at all possible #but also at the same time i'd hate for her to be a Perfect Black Woman Who Will Save Us All And Is Always Right #there is an alternate version of bioshock infinite in my head where daisy and elizabeth both survive the ends of their respective story arc #and have to live with the monsters they've created #daisy watches as the flames she fanned get taken over by a desperate and rabid slate #elizabeth hides in the ruins of rapture trying to undermine atlas from the shadows

[nexusyokai]

Bioshock Infinite: Daisy Fitzroy FanArt

Top Quote:

"When I first seen Columbia, that sky was the brightest, bluest sky that there ever was. Seemed like Heaven. Then your eyes adjusted to the light, and you see that sea of white faces looking hard back at you."

#bioshock #bioshock infinite #fanart #digital art #daisy fitzroy #video games #irrational games

[mashkara45]

#in short: rusni pizda #life during wartime #personal #bioshock infinite #bioshock #daisy fitzroy #quotes #favorite quotes

[something-in-the-seas]

#bioshock #bioshock 2 #bioshock seggsywoman poll #grace holloway #daisy fitzroy

[cardboard-aliens]

love how infinite's internal logic for its themes are never held up. Because Daisy is deemed pure evil for trying to kill a child but the actual child murderer Booker is able to be redeemed by that same narrative.

#bioshock infinite #booker dewitt #daisy fitzroy #infinite salt #cardboard cutouts #the DLC does not make this better btw

[winchesternova-k]

i’m sorry i don’t use liveblog while i game but this just went full tilt into ridiculous. elizabeth just? changes her mind abt the vox populi and the revolution for NO discernible reason. no one’s even attacked her? fink hasn’t died yet?? daisy hasn’t done ANYTHING except start the revolution elizabeth was so keen for literally one line of dialogue back! she just suddenly decides “actually both sides are bad :((” AND COMPARES HER TO A WHITE SUPREMACIST! FOR NO REASON!!!

like this is such bad writing and INCREDIBLY racist and daisy is character assassinated abt 5 mins after for the exact same both sides bullshit. it’s a complete heel turn w nothing to back it up except booker’s internal thoughts shown on the loading screens which r completely racist bc he has no basis to even suspect she’ll turn on them!! she has no motive to do so, it wouldn’t benefit her or her cause! she doesn’t even HAVE a motive to turn on them until three dimension hops later and it’s a very poorly written a flimsy one!

there is zero reason for either of them to think there’s anything wrong w daisy’s motives except that she’s Black! there’s no foreshadowing (which would still be racist without a lot of other changes to the narrative), no thought processes, not even a vox populi member saying or doing something suspicious! booker is just racist and elizabeth is racist AND badly written!!

#bioshock #bioshock infinite #bioshock infinite crit #daisy fitzroy #vox populi #daisy deserved better and writers that cared abt an anti racist narrative not whatever the fuck this was #frankly even after we’re given a reason for her to want to kill booker in game it’s still an extremely poorly written one #i don’t blame her tho bc tbh i also want to murder booker he’s the absolute fucking worst #i’m sure this has all been said a thousand times this was just so appallingly racist and poorly written i had to rant or i’ll scream #alex talks #gaming

[dreddlightful]

Reclaim this place

#bioshok infinite #daisy fitzroy #fun fact last time I drew this character was when the blm protest started #I’ll let you guess why