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Might as well work on this one too…

On Age in Carmen Sandiego (2019)

Or, at the very least, in the timeline of Crimson Shades.

First off, Carmen’s mother, Carlotta Valdez (aka “Vera Cruz”), was supposed to have “died” in 1999. Carmen looked around perhaps a year old at that point in time, giving her a possible birth-date in 1996 to 1997. This in turn suggests that the series takes place some time before the actual date of publication—say, 2017/2018 onwards—to maintain Carmen’s rough age.

Rough age ranges of the characters, taking Carmen’s rough birthdate for estimation:

Team Red

Isabela Valdez/Black Sheep/Carmen Sandiego: 16/17 starting at VILE, 18/19 during the Poitiers Caper, 22/23 by the end.

Fairly self-explanatory.

Pierre Bouchard/Player: 12/13 as a White Hat Hacker, 14/15 during the Poitiers Caper, 18/19 by the end.

Not quite old enough for a learner’s permit (Up Here it’s a G1) during the earlier capers.

Ivy Collins: 19 during the Donuts/Poitiers Capers, 23 by the end.

Zack Collins: 18 during the Donuts/Poitiers Capers, 22 by the end.

Zack is supposed to be around a year younger than Ivy.

Nakamura Suhara/Shadowsan: 23 when sent after Dexter Wolfe, 42 during the Poitiers Caper, 46 by the end.

Young but not too young, as it were.

VILE

Eartha McGlynn/Coach Brunt: 39 upon receiving Black Sheep, 58 during the Poitiers Caper, 61 when arrested, 63 by the end.

Gunnar Stromme/Professor Maelstrom: 37 upon receiving Black Sheep, 56 during the Poitiers Caper, 60 when arrested, 62 by the end.

Oluchi Cleopatra Okorie/Countess Cleo: 26 upon receiving Black Sheep, 45 during the Poitiers Caper, 49 when arrested, 51 by the end.

Saira Dhibar/Doctor Bellum: 33 upon receiving Black Sheep, 54 during the Poitiers Caper, 58 when arrested, 60 by the end.

Sir Nigel Braithwaite/Roundabout: 56 when appointed, 57 when arrested, 59 by the end.

Margherita Picasso/Cookie Booker: 54 when first pelted, 62 when the Hard Drive was stolen, 67 by the end.

Vlad Bobinski: 28 upon receiving Black Sheep, 45 upon letting Black Sheep get away, 50 by the end.

Boris Vladinski: 27 upon receiving Black Sheep, 44 while watching Vlad let Black Sheep get away, 49 by the end.

They may be slightly younger or older, but at least Coach Brunt’s age seems to have been confirmed at 60 by the time of the Fourth Season.

Graham Calloway/Gray/Crackle: 18 starting at VILE, 20 during the Poitiers Caper, 24 by the end.

Jean-Paul Marignan/Le Chèvre: 19 starting at VILE, 21 during the Poitiers Caper, 25 by the end.

Antonio Sánchez/El Topo: 18/19 starting at VILE, 20/21 during the Poitiers Caper, 24/25 by the end.

Sheena Landry/Tigress: 18 starting at VILE, 20 during the Poitiers Caper, 23 when arrested, 24 by the end.

Parker Morris/Mime Bomb: 18 starting at VILE, 20 during the Poitiers Caper, 23 when arrested, 25 by the end.

Sawa Jin/Paper Star: 17 starting at VILE, 18 during the Magna Carta Caper, 22 when arrested at the end.

ACME

Tamara Fraser/Chief: 26 when killing Dexter Wolfe, 45 during the Poitiers Caper, 49 when arresting VILE, 51 by the end.

Inspector/Agent Chase Devineaux: 37 during the Poitiers Caper, 38/39 when arresting VILE, 41 by the end.

Agent Julia Argent: 25 during the Poitiers Caper, 27 when arresting VILE, 29 by the end.

This is going to cause some trouble, I just know it. But the average amount of time it takes to get a university degree in the UK is around three years, and Julia has two of them. She also seems to have jumped right to an associate professorship at Oxford in Season 3, the requirements for which are around 4-6 years of study plus a thesis. Thus Julia would have had to have been in school for at least something like seven to nine years before joining Interpol, with whom she had apparently only been for a fortnight before the Poitiers Caper. The number above assumes that she skipped a year and took a year less to complete her second degree. Or took two years less. Or started two years early. You get my point. Basically, Julia has to be a fair bit older than she looks in order to actually have the qualifications she possesses.

Agent Umaira Zari: 38 during the Poitiers Caper, 40 when arresting VILE, 42 by the end.

Some additional ages:

Nakamura Hideo: 17 when his brother Suhara was born, 36 when his brother disappeared, 63 when his brother returned for good, 65 by the end.

Not an unreasonable age given his looks, I thought.

Carlotta Valdez: 27 when she gave birth to Isabela, 47 when Carmen returned home to her, 49 by the end.

Young but not too long, once again.

Any I missed?

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potchai · 2 years

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more VILE operative headcanons!

paper star always has toilet paper stuck to her shoe

sheena was the only VILE operative to not pack personal belongings hence having the least outfit changes

mime bomb and sheena bulk order striped shirts and purple shampoo respectively

neal and gray had a podcast for toast and its varieties

antonio has a culinary arts degree

paper star and the driver are exes.

mime bomb during his civilian life had a yo gabba gabba guest appearance

during the codenames library scene, el topo made his codename on the spot after hearing le chevre's codename being an animal in his mother tongue.

jean paul tried to be a souncloud rapper in his teens

mime bomb and the troll and distant cousins

they all get drunk on fridays and wake up in on the helicopter pad

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jellyfishexe · 2 months

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Ok idk if someone has said this and correct me if I’m wrong but in French when you say mon Amie your saying my friend but in a figurative sense your saying my bf/gf.

So technically in Carmen Sandiego whenever le chèvre calls el topo mon Amie he’s calling him his boyfriend.

If this isn’t proof enough idk what is

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captainpluto13 · 8 months

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Beach time!

Yeah ik it’s September but the beach is still fun ❤💙💚(also yes Zack is wearing a binder)

These take place in season 2, since Gray still has memory loss

#carmen sandeigo 2019 #carmen sandeigo fanart #carmen sandeigo netflix #carmen sandiego #cs ivy #cs crackle #gray calloway #paper star #neal the eel #mime bomb #julia argent #el topo #le chevre #tigress #shadowsan #chase devineaux #cs zack #slimebomb #carulia

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skipppppy · 7 months

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They bully him relentlessly

#need to rewatch the show for the 1000th time but I love how no one likes Chase. at all #chase devineaux #chief cs #julia argent #agent zari #ivy cs #player cs #zack cs #shadowsan #el topp x le chevre #carmen sandiego 2019

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yeahimcal · 11 months

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Carmen and Antonio were actually closer than Gray and Carmen were. Let me explain [beams you to my mind palace]

I think that Antonio saw Carmen like a little sister. She reminded him of his little sister back home and how she loved to play pranks and giggle and tease him.

The first time he heard Carmen laugh so hard she snorted he cried in his bed when he was sure everyone else was asleep because she reminded him of the family he left behind and when he woke up the next morning Carmen was curled up at the foot of his bed and he had another blanket on top of him

He taught her how to cook (well, mainly how to eat and annoy people in the kitchen) and she taught him how to dance and sing

He taught her how to deal with panic attacks and anxiety and she taught him how to pull yourself out of the depths of depression

She taught him how to repair clothes and he taught her how to do her hair so it would stop falling in her eyes

The first time he hugged her really tight they both cried. Carmen whispered that she thought of him as a brother and he started crying like a baby and kissed her forehead and whispered “Eres como mi hermana. Mi hermana menor. oh, hermanita...” (you are like my sister. my baby sister. oh, baby sister...). Ever since then he’s called her hermanita

When she ran away he cried for hours, Jean-Paul held him and told him it was going to be okay. She just wasn’t who he thought she was. It only made him cry harder

When he saw her in Boston and she threw him overboard he thought that he had really lost his sister. That someone else had poisoned her against him and everyone else. But then she threw a life preserver over to him and he had time to think “maybe she’s still in there. Maybe I just need to find her.” but he never did

I think he learned to love her again. Not Black Sheep, but Carmen. She was there for the grand opening of their food truck. Think when he saw her he started bawling and ran to hug her. Think he knocked her over and started kissing her all over her face while saying “hermanita” over and over again. Think she cried, too, just absolutely sobbed her eyes out

Jean-Paul came over and Antonio just pulled him into the hug. They probably took a picture outside the food truck that day that Antonio had framed. Carmen keeps a smaller version of the picture in her wallet? Or maybe her coat pocket.

Anyways that’s it. Just think about it guys

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catfamilyx · 4 months

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Just goat and sheep things

#carmen being carried like a sheep #le chevre falling like a goat #one of my favourite easter eggs #always so funny to me #carmen sandiego #cs #tigress #shadow-san #le chevre #el topo #jeantonio #vile #black sheep

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lara635kookie · 6 months

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What happens when you mix some Descendants and V.I.L.E. operatives from Carmen Sandiego? How would they sing Descendants songs on V.I.L.E.'s karaoke night? Wanna find out?

No Rest for The Wicked by Patty Cake:

Evil Carmen:

I feel like something in me's taking control

A darker side of me that's heartless and cold

Crackle:

I'm wide awake, I'm hearing whispers in bed

My dreams are turning into nightmares instead

Evil Carmen:

This other part of me that I can't explain

Was locked away but now it loosened the chain

Crackle:

I feel it comin', it's about to begin

Maybe we'll remind them good guys don't always win

Evil Carmen and Crackle:

Nowhere to hide

Your villanous side

All:

We won't stop 'til we get enough

We don't cry 'cause we like it rough

Make a move, don't wanna call our bluff

There's no rest for the wicked

We don't care if it's wrong or right

You say no we'll put up a fight

We don't sleep 'cause we own the night

There's no rest for the wicked

Evil Carmen:

I'm sick of people telling me what to be

But now my badder side is finally free

Not gonna fake it 'cause I'm taking 'em down

This queen is always meant for wearing the crown

Le Chevre:

I'll play your game but baby you should beware

Tigress:

I write the rules and I don't always play fair

El Topo:

Better watch your step, one wrong move and you could fall

Paper Star:

We're gonna do things my way or we won't do things at all

Jeantonio and PaperTiger:

Nowhere to hide

Your villanous side

All:

We won't stop 'til we get enough

We don't cry 'cause we like it rough

Make a move, don't wanna call our bluff

There's no rest for the wicked

We don't care if it's wrong or right

You say no we'll put up a fight

We don't sleep 'cause we own the night

There's no rest for the wicked

Paper Star: (all)

Your time is up

Because my moment's here

I'm only gonna say this once

And make my message clear!

I've been underestimated

I've been good and bad

Now I'm choosing what I am, does that make you mad?

I've been livin' in a dream now I'm wide awake (wake up)

And I'm coming for the throne cause it's mine to take

Better watch your back (it's going down)

'Cause I might attack ('cause we run this town)

I'm a lion in a cage and I can't be tamed

Now what's my name? (Star)

Ooh

All:

We won't stop 'til we get enough

We don't cry 'cause we like it rough

Make a move, don't wanna call our bluff

There's no rest for the wicked

We don't care if it's wrong or right

You say no we'll put up a fight

We don't sleep 'cause we own the night

There's no rest for the wicked

Oooh

You say no that's when we say go

Oooh

There's no rest for the wicked

Oooh

You say no that's when we say go

Oooh

There's no rest for the wicked

Rotten to The Core Remix from Descendants 3:

Evil Carmen:

They say I'm trouble, they say I'm bad

That ain't my badly, so don't make me mad

Tigress:

A dirty no-good, down to the bone

I'll take that trophy, back to my zone

Evil Carmen:

So I've got some mischief in my blood

My fashion's wicked? Hands off my gloves

Crackle:

They think I'm callous, a low-life hood

The times are changing, bad is the new good hahaha

Evil Carmen and Tigress:

Mirror, mirror on the wall

Who's the baddest of them all?

Welcome to my wicked world, wicked world

All:

I'm rotten to the core, core

Rotten to the core

I'm rotten to the core, core

Who could ask for more?

I'm nothing like the kid next, like the kid next door

I'm rotten to the core, I'm rotten to the

Crackle:

I'm rotten to the core

Evil Carmen:

Long as I'm leader, of this lost isle

There'll always be a little evil, behind my smile

Le Chevre:

Don't double cross me, I'll get you hooked

You think I'm kidding? Just take a look

Paper Star:

I'm not a sweetheart, I'm not your friend

But you better invite me, or taste revenge

Tigress:

I'm on the hustle, take what I can get

Show me the money,

PaperTiger:

You ain't seen nothing yet

Evil Carmen, Paper Star and Tigress:

Mirror, mirror on the wall

Who's the baddest of them all?

Welcome to my wicked world, wicked world

All:

I'm rotten to the core, core

Rotten to the core

I'm rotten to the core, core

Who could ask for more?

I'm nothing like the kid next, like the kid next door

I'm rotten to the, I'm rotten to the

I'm rotten to the core, core

Rotten to the core

I'm rotten to the core, core

Who could ask for more?

I'm nothing like the kid next, like the kid next door

I'm rotten to the core, I'm rotten to the

I'm rotten to the core

Rotten to The Core from Descendants 1:

Paper Star:

They say I'm trouble

They say I'm bad

They say I'm evil

And that makes me glad

Evil Carmen:

A dirty no-good

Down to the bone

Your worst nightmare

Can't take me home

Crackle:

So I've got some mischief

In my blood

Can you blame me?

I never got no love

El Topo:

They think I'm callous

A low-life hood

I feel so useless

All:

Misunderstood

Evil Carmen and Paper Star:

Mirror, mirror on the wall

Who's the baddest of them all?

Welcome to my wicked world, wicked world

All:

I'm rotten to the core, core

Rotten to the core

I'm rotten to the core, core

Who could ask for more?

I'm nothing like the kid next, like the kid next door

I'm rotten to the core, I'm rotten to the

I'm rotten to the core

Paper Star:

Call me a schemer

Call me a freak

How can you say that?

I'm just unique

Tigress:

What, me a traitor?

Ain't got your back?

Are we not friends?

What's up with that?

Evil Carmen:

So I'm a misfit

So I'm a flirt

I broke your heart

I made you hurt

Le Chevre:

The past is past

Forgive, forget

The truth is

All:

You ain't seen nothing yet

Evil Carmen, Paper Star and Tigress:

Mirror, mirror on the wall

Who's the baddest of them all?

Welcome to my wicked world, wicked world

Crackle:

Ha ha

Gimme that

Yeah

Too-doo

Hahaha, oh

All:

I'm rotten to the core, core

Rotten to the core

I'm rotten to the core, core

Who could ask for more?

I'm nothing like the kid next, like the kid next door

I'm rotten to the core, I'm rotten to the

I'm rotten to the core

Ways to be Wicked from Descendants 2:

All:

We got all the ways to be

W-I-C-K-E-D

We got all the ways to be

W-I-C-K-E-D

Crackle:

Come on

All: (Le Chevre)

Hey, hey, hey, hey

Hey, hey, hey, hey (haha)

Hey, hey, hey, hey

Evil Carmen: (Crackle)

Crashin' the party, guess they lost my invitation (boo-hoo)

Friendly reminder, got my own kind of persuasion

Crackle:

Looks like this place could use a bit of misbehavior

"Happily ever after" with a little flavor

Paper Star:

Bad to the bone, with even worse intentions

We're gonna steal the show and leave 'em all defenseless

Tigress: (Paper Star)

A fairy tale life can be oh-so-overrated

So raise your voices and let's get it activated (ayy)

All:

Long live having some fun

We take what we want

There's so many ways to be wicked

With us, evil lives on the right side of wrong

There's so many ways to be wicked

Apple, apple

Dip, dip

Wanna try it?

Tick, tick

Take a bite, come on, be bold

Change the way the story's told

Evil Carmen:

This time the dark is finally getting your attention

Paper Star:

We're wicked by the book, and class is back in session

Evil Carmen:

You like it, steal it

Gotta beat 'em to the treasure

Tigress:

A right of passage

Evil Carmen, Paper Star and Tigress:

Bad just doesn't get much better

All:

Long live having some fun

We take what we want

There's so many ways to be wicked

With us, evil lives on the right side of wrong

There's so many ways to be wicked

Evil Carmen:

Mother always knows best

Crackle:

Show her, pass every test

Evil Carmen:

Hear her voice in my head

Crackle:

Evil is the only

Evil Carmen and Crackle:

Real way to win

All: (Papar Star)

We got all the ways to be (ha)

Hey, hey, hey, hey

W-I-C-K-E-D

Crackle:

Let's go

All: (Paper Star)

We got all the ways to be

Hey, hey, hey, hey

W-I-C-K-E-D

(Yeah)

Long live having some fun (having some fun)

We take what we want

There's so many ways to be wicked

With us, evil lives on (evil lives on)

The right side of wrong

There's so many ways to be wicked

Cruel and unusual

We're taking control

There's so many ways to be wicked

With us (come on), evil lives on the right side of wrong

There's so many ways to be wicked

Hey, hey, hey, hey

We got all the ways to be

W-I-C-K-E-D

We got all the ways to be

W-I-C-K-E-D (oh yeah)

We got all the ways to be

W-I-C-K-E-D

We got all the ways to be

Evil Carmen:

So many ways to be wicked

What's My Name from Descendants 2:

Evil Carmen: (Crackle)

This is all hands on deck

Calling out to lost boys and girls

I'm gettin' tired of the disrespect

We won't stop 'til we rule the world

It's our time, we up next (next, next)

Our sail's about to be set (set, set)

They ain't seen nothing yet

Tell 'em who's in charge so they don't forget

Evil Carmen: (Crackle)

What's my name, what's my name? (Carmen)

Say it louder

What's my name, what's my name? (Carmen)

Feel the power

No one's gonna stop us soon the world will be ours

What's my name, what's my name?

What's it, what's it, say it, say it loud

(Caaarmen, Saaandiego)

All eyes on me, let me see 'em (Carmen, Sandiego)

What's it, what's it, say it, say it

(Carmen Car, ah ah)

Carmen

Evil Carmen: (Crackle)

I'm the queen of this town

I call the shots, you know who I am

I don't need to wear no fake crown

Stand up to me, you don't stand a chance

It's our time, we up next (next, next)

My crew's as real as it gets (gets, gets)

The worst is now the best

And leaving us here will be their last regret

Evil Carmen: (Crackle)

What's my name, what's my name? (Carmen)

Say it louder

What's my name, what's my name? (Carmen)

Feel the power (whoa)

No one's gonna stop us soon the world will be ours (yeah)

What's my name, what's my name?

What's it, what's it, say it, say it

Crackle: (Carmen)

You know what they say bad girls have all the fun

Never learned how to count 'cause I'm number one

Ready here, we come, we always get our way

It's a pirate's life, every single day (hey)

She's the captain, I'm the first mate

Enemies seasick, can't see straight

Call 'em fish bait, throw 'em on a hook

Carmen's so hot they get burned if they look (ah)

Evil Carmen:

It's all eyes on me, let me see 'em

I see your eyes on me boy, hey

You know what my name is

Say it, say it louder

Evil Carmen:

Hook me

Crackle:

Haha

Evil Carmen:

Huh huh

Ho, whoa

Come on

Evil Carmen: (Crackle)

What's my name, what's my name? (Carmen)

Say it louder (hey)

What's my name, what's my name? (Carmen)

Feel the power (ooh whoa-ooh)

No one's gonna stop us soon the world will be ours (no one's gonna stop us, no, no-no)

What's my name, what's my name?

What's it, what's it, say it, say it

(Carmen, Carmen)

All eyes on me, let me see 'em (Carmen)

What's it, what's it, say it, say it (Carmen)

Ooh, say it louder (Carmen, Sandiego)

What's it, what's it, say it, say it

Carmen

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