#catradora arc

[mimimar]

an old catradora doodle

#set somewhere during the s5 space arc #shera #catradora #spop #catra #adora #catradora fanart #spop fanart #shera and the princesses of power #she-ra and the princesses of power #wlw #sapphic #lesbian #wlw art #sapphic art #lesbian art

[yourhighness6]

Unpopular opinion but I think in SPOP S2E3 Catra was genuinely trying to protect Entrapta from Hordak after almost being suffocated in the same episode by him

I think the main obstacle to Catra's perspective redemption arc at this point isn't her tendency towards violence or her constant anger, as those are classic character flaws before redemption arcs, but her manipulation tactics and her capacity to treat other people like shit. This is kind of an uncommon way of presenting these sorts of characters, who are often shown as being kind of "dumb" while having a repressed natural kindness. Catra certainly isn't "dumb", she's incredibly intelligent, an excellent strategist, and extremely careful with her words. In this scene I saw not the first glimpse but one of the first of a girl who genuinely cares about those close to her (besides Adora) and may be worthy of redemption. Catra clearly does have a heart, but I'm interested to see exactly how this plays out, as Noelle Stevenson took a huge risk by giving her these traits.

#shes the most interesting character to me so far #but entrapta bow and glimmer are my favorites #I pretty much like all of them except for Hordak and Shadow Weaver so far #Shadow Weaver can go die in a hole #but I was surprised by hordaks cruelty in this episode we don't see a lot of him directly harming ppl #I've heard he gets a redemption arc too so again excited to see how that pans out #catra #entrapta #spop #she ra #she ra and the princesses of power #catradora

[pepper-butler]

im gonna be honest. i love hero x villain ships, and i love angsty enemies to lovers. but i hate catradora

why?

because of that dumb fucking redemption. if it was just a funny lil "what if the hero and villain had a thing for each other" ship i would've loved it.

but trying to redeem an abuser, blame the victim and play the relationship off as healthy? fuck no, catra is to be held accountable for all of her actions and adora deserves better than her. catra is a horrible person and the show should treat her as such, instead of an "uwu gay disaster baby".

enemies to lovers shouldn't be a victim being emotionally scarred from an abuser, it should be enemies who are equal to each other. i would much rather ship catradora if catra hated everyone else just as much as she hates adora

if you ship catradora, fine. good for you, honestly. but don't hit me with the "its healthy" bs, or the "you don't know what enemies to lovers means". i do know what it means, i just don't like the abuser x victim sort

#catras redemption arc can suck my asscheeks #spop salt #spop critisism #spop critical #catra is an abuser #anti catra #anti catradora #catra salt #catra criticism #catradora salt #catradora criticism #adora deserves better

[terrabdectyle]

#anti c//a #anti catra #anti catradora #anticatra #anticatradora #catra #catradora #spop critical #catra critical #adora #Catra's redemtion arc is bullshit! She deserves nothing. All she has is that crappy backstory. #Her fans are just biased but they don't want to admit it #Anyway #Adora has no reason to forgive that catgirl #Catra is trash😚 i'd rather kiss the floor than to rewatch this show

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

s5 and the trivialisation of catra's crimes

i couldn't be the only who noticed the language that s5 used whenever it came to talking about catra's actions.

(i probably missed a bunch of other instances, so feel free to reblog and add more!)

“hurt people” = huge understatement.

you also abuse them, try to control them, emotionally manipulate them, gaslight them, and attempt to murder them.

“for everything” = again, vague.

what's everything? we see later that catra still holds adora accountable for “abandoning her”, she still acts like adora is dumb and weak and easily manipulated, she still shows no remorse for the way she treated adora. what did she mean by everything then?

“tried to kill me a bunch of times” = only touching the surface.

she also physically and emotionally abused you, scarred you, kidnapped your friends, mind controlled you, kidnapped you, drugged you, and almost ended the entire universe just to spite you.

“stubborn brat” = huge understatement 2.0

she was acting like an abusive bitch person. stubborn brat makes it sound like catra is a pre-teen throwing a temper tantrum (which is exactly what she acts like, to her credit).

“i thought things would be different”, “fixing things” = vague terms + trivializing the situation.

adora is speaking as if the only problem here was a rough patch in a relationship or a bad breakup and not, you know, dealing with a literal war criminal and abuser.

“it's a long story” = vague and refusing to explain further.

said long story being that catra only sided with you because she had no choice and is still actively abusing you.

we're talking about a war criminal here. we're talking about someone who put the safety of the entire universe at jeopardy.

why is s5 using such vague terms and trivializing everything that catra did? why is it acting like the only problem with catra's character was that she had some relationship issues with adora?

oh wait, i know why. it's because the creators were hoping that we don't remember what happened in the previous seasons or sweep everything under the rug. and luckily for them, 90% of the fandom fell for it.

#spop critical #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #spop #she ra #anti spop #anti catra #anti catradora #anti c//a #antic//a #anticatra #anticatradora #someone made a post comparing zuko's and catra's redemption arcs #and how atla always made sure to be specific about zuko's crimes #even when zuko himself tried to downplay his actions the other characters called him out for it #meanwhile spop is here like “oh catra made a few mistakes as we all do”

[darkcrowprincess]

Me ranting about Catra and Catradora:

Catradora is not a toxic ship. They do not get together till they both figure out their issues. If anything they are a toxic codependent friendship, where they have obvious feelings for each other. But again they do not get together till they both work on their issues. Which hello character development and redemption. Emphasize on the both of them, because Adora has deep issues too that she needs to work on. Catra's issues are rooted in trauma and abuse, its not ok or and exuse for her actions (she goes through learning that the hard way). But its trauma response to that. And dealing with that is not pretty, it's a work in progress, you fail and go back to square one a lot.

What she did went through is basically the same as what Zuko did in Avatar the last Airbender. It's not an excuse on either of them. But everyone seems to hate on Catra more 🙄😒. I wonder why *sarcasm*. The whole point of this rant? Is me just wishing people would stop hating on catra and catradora. The story telling in shera especially where Catra is involved is brilliant and great story telling to me. An amazing redemption and story arc for female character. But what do I know thats just my opinion. I'm not telling people to not dislike Catra or the catradora ship. People are entitled to their opinions. I just wish people would stop calling it toxic. Because it's not.

(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you)

#catra #catradora #spop catra #redemption arc #character development #me ranting #My thoughts #Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you #tw abuse #trauma #zuko #prince zuko #atla zuko

[videogamelover99]

I think the difference between the "I can fix him" trope and the "love helps people change" trope is that the former implies effort on the lover's part, and the latter on the person needing to change and grow.

Because a character realizing they're going to lose someone/have lost someone they care about because of their bullshit and actually fixing themselves because that person means the world to them? Beautiful. Poetic cinema. Zero effort on the other person's part. Character shows up on their lover's/family member's/best friend's doorstep like "you deserve better and so I'm going to do everything I can so that you are happy and have your back even if it means I don't get to be with you because I don't expect anything from you" and the other one looks at them and the concrete actions they took to do that and goes "Okay. Maybe you can stay."

#even better then theres no established relationship yet and the character realizes they need to fix their shit or they cant be close #with this other person #a sprinkle of non-self-sacrificial compassion on the other's part and we got ourselves a sexy little redemption arc #catradora #though its not just about them XD l #context matters of course #lore olympus #hades/persephone #she ra #fandom meta #tropes #writing

[nightowl1556]

Redemption Arc Therapy Incorrect Quotes #361 (Catradora meets Bakudeku)

Adora: Sooo.... How long have you and Bakugo been dating?

Midoriya: Oh, three years!

Catra: Who's that? Does he always follow you two around?

Bakugo: That's our third-wheel.

Todoroki: Hello.

#catradora #bakudeku #she ra and the princesses of power #my hero academia #spop #mha #spop catra #mha izuku midoriya #mha katsuki bakugo #mha shouto todoroki #izuku midoriya #katsuki bakugo #shouto todoroki #redemption arc therapy #incorrect quotes #spop adora #catra x adora #bakugo x midoriya #adora

[theglimmadoraarchives]

The fact that the characters of Season 5 She-Ra are handled so badly, it makes me hate the Season 5 poster even more.

The characters could have called Catra out for her actions, but no.

It's almost like a different show compared to Seasons 1 to 4.

#anti c//a #anti catradora #spop discourse #spop critical #spop salt #she ra #spop #adora deserves better #glimmer deserves better #catra's arc is rushed

[nessathewaterflower]

#catra #catradora #shera #spop #look how good these tweets are #I think I’m back into my fighting antis arc #rai post

[kage-my-justu]

All my favorite ships have broken up at least once

#divorce arc>>>>>> #but im a sucker for seeing the worst and still wanting someone #she ra #catradora #spop #ace attorney #wrightworth #narumitsu #bumbleby #rwby #yuuram #kyo kara maoh #kkm #wolfram von bielefeld #yuuri shibuya #yuuri x wolfram #matchablossom #sk8 the infinity

[thedaythatwas]

you ever just walk around and suddenly remember that one character that you haven’t seriously thought about in a while and it’s like OH YEAH! I completely forgot you controlled my existence for a considerable amount of time! good god I adore you! into the deep end we go xoxo

#anyway popping backing onto the she-ra tag and seeing all the discourse about catradora being abusive?? was uh WILD #catra will always be one of my favorite characters #people have said it before and I’ll say it again characters don’t need to be perfect to be loved OR good representation #controversial take but she represents me and I think that’s valuable #even if her redemption arc was rushed her recovery from shadow weaver wasn’t and that meant a lot to me #and it still does! #a movie could do a lot to address the flaws of her arc too tbh #anyway don’t throw out the whole piece of media because it isn’t perfect #or bandwagon your way off the ship #flaws and all she-ra was a really big deal for a lot of queer people and it feels wrong to discount that #she-ra #catra

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

it's crazy the way c//a stans compare the ship to other romantic ships in media and try to find similarities, when c//a is most similar to a bunch of sibling relationships i've seen in media.

let's see:

these are the duos that c//a remind me most of and they're all siblings, either blood-related or otherwise.

i haven't watched tangled the series but i know that rapunzel and cassandra are shipped by the fandom, despite both of them having the same mother (gothel being rapunzel's adoptive mother and cassandra's actual mother). not to mention, the feud between them is the same as most of the other relationships here - a desperate need for parental validation.

all of these duos have the same dynamic as c//a, with one person being the golden child (azula, rapunzel, claudia and vi) and the other one being the scapegoat (zuko, cassandra, soren and jinx/powder).

the conflict between the two siblings is usually based on the way they were raised and the competition for parental validation. (the only example where this is not exactly the case is with jinx and vi, since jinx doesn't seem to be bothered about being validated by vander, she's more troubled about the idea of being abandoned by vi. which is also eerily similar to the way catra feels about adora.) this is a very common sibling dynamic and it's really weird to apply it to a ship that's supposed to be romantic.

i can understand the idea of feeling inferior to a romantic partner, but in catra's case, she was very clearly bothered by the fact that their mother preferred adora over her. this does not bode well for any kind of romantic chemistry.

apart from the fact that catra and adora was specifically written as siblings, the VAs also describe them as sisters multiple times and the official character sheets say the same thing.

it's ridiculous to still think that they were always meant to be romantic partners when the truth is so obvious. i don't want to assume things about nate or anyone in the crew, but it's more than a bit suspicious and concerning that c//a is not the only example of an incestuous ship in spop.

#spop critical #spop #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #she ra #anti catradora #anti catra #anti spop #anti c//a #antic//a #anticatra #anticatradora #like even if the ship wasnt toxic or catra got a good redemption arc i wouldn't root for c//a #its just too weird

[sealnoodlesoup]

You know how some Star Wars fans pretend episode 9 isn't real? I might start doing the same with spop season 5!

#she ra #anti catra #anti spop #anti catradora #shadow weaver #star wars #rise of skywalker #star wars tros #Why was everyone in s5 so OOC? #like wtf #Catradora is abuse #also I hate how Shadow Weaver's arc ended #It glorifies suicide #anti stans #stans DNI

[sashannarcy]

Why do you think people wants Sasha and Anne to be always fighting each other? Just this last week I saw: the fanon Sashanne is bad because Sasha isn't a bitch to Anne, Anne is mis characterized as a damsel in distress and being "small" in comparison to Sasha so her saving Anne is bad, that they are a bad written Catradora, that they would never work without Marcy in the relationship, that people always give them bad break ups and that Season 3B Sashanne is bad because they don't fight 🤷‍♀️

honestly I think it's just based off of two things I've seen in the fandom over and over: 1) they throw a fit when Marcy isn't involved and 2) people are dead set on this idea that Sasha is abusive. Sashanne is a very wonderful ship but it's also the most complex out of all the trio ships, so it... is not surprising that a lot of people just want to see it burn. you're talking abt a fandom that, like a lot of other cartoon fandoms, thinks primarily in black and white. ofc they're not going to want to see a friends to enemies to lovers arc, they're going to want it to stop at the enemies part. especially since Sasha never seemed to be truly remorseful about his actions until s2/s3; he was kind of just fucking shitty. which is. literally normal. sometimes you are just a shitty person before you get better. but to people who cannot understand nuance to save their lives, this means he is abusive and that he should always be a bitch to Anne or else it's out of character

#abt the badly written catradora thing... that's laughable bc imo sashanne and catradora are two completely diff ships #sure they have their similarities but the similarities kind of end past the overall structure of both ships' arcs #and yeah I HATE when people say they wouldn't work without marcy like shut the fuck UP #I would love for one of these people to give me a detailed analysis on why marcy is the glue here bc that's literally just incorrect #marcy isn't the glue. anne is. that's kind of the whole point of the SHOW #and it's ALSO why I love delving into sasharcy because narratively it's the ship that makes the LEAST sense #so you can either make hcs abt it that are pretty ooc which. okay fine but at that point just make ocs #or you can look at it through a bit of a different angle which is what I tend to do #anyway I loveeeee sashanne soooo fucking much let's go sashanne NATION #amphibia #sashanne #anonymous #ask

[nightowl1556]

My R.A.T. Group Headcanon (some of them actually canon) Sexualities and Who They're Dating Cuz' Why the F*ck Not, I'm Bored

1. Zuko is demisexual and he's dating Mai!

2. Catra is a lesbian and she's dating Adora!

3. Varian is bisexual and he's dating Hugo!

4. Amity is a lesbian and she's dating Luz!

5. Hunter is a bisexual and he's dating Willow!

6. Bakugo is homosexual and he's dating Midoriya!

7. Cassandra is a bisexual and she is currently dating.......nobody! (I can't think of anyone 😅 )

(Varigo art belongs to JJGGRT. None of these pictures belong to me.)

#redemption arc therapy #R.A.T. Universe #maiko #catradora #varigo #lumity #huntlow #bakudeku #because i said so #tangled cassandra #avatar the last airbender #she ra and the princesses of power #tangled the series #varian and the seven kingdoms #the owl house #my hero academia #zuko #catra #varian #amity blight #hunter the golden guard #katsuki bakugo